EuroTrophy KAZ: Ideas for automatically shooting down drones with cannons and machine guns are coming to fruition.

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EuroTrophy KAZ: Ideas for automatically shooting down drones with cannons and machine guns are coming to fruition.

At the Eurosatory 2026 arms exhibition, EuroTrophy GmbH unveiled an updated EuroTrophy active protection system. This monster can now not only destroy dangerous targets with counter-munitions, but also fire back at them with machine guns and cannons.

The market decides and the situation forces


Talking about how FPV is todaydrones They're harassing armored vehicles, we won't. Literally every granny near the entrance knows about this problem if she looks news on TV. We can only note the fact that the use of these "buzzers" will not be limited to Ukraine—they will also be actively used in future wars.



Of course, not in the form of Chinese toys with RPG-7 or SPG-9 grenades strapped on. By then, we'll have fully manufactured military products with powerful warheads, secure communications channels, AI, and other perks. In short, things will only get worse.

They understand this in Europe and in the West in general, therefore they are promising Tanks Without anti-drone protection, they're no longer even considering it. And Israel understands this, too; even before the whole drone and air defense crisis, its Trophy active protection system (Meil Ruach—Windbreaker) was considered practically the only option for European and American combat vehicles.

But the Trophy itself is old. It can deal with classic threats like anti-tank guided missiles. missiles Or grenades, but it can't fend off drones. And who needs it these days without that functionality? Neither the French nor the Germans will buy it. Not to mention that their own Merkavas with the outdated Trophy variant will also be vulnerable to UAVs.

So EuroTrophy GmbH, a hodgepodge of Israeli company Rafael, the German division of KNDS, and the European branch of American General Dynamics Land System, came up with an updated Trophy. And it must be said, it turned out quite well—they not only integrated drone detection capabilities into the design, but also ensured the ability to destroy them using the tank's own equipment.

The radar was replaced


When it comes to countering attack drones with an active defense system, their detection comes first. After all, we're talking about small flying drones with a low radar cross-section (RCS), and they tend to hover or move at low speeds.

Trophy's standard pulse-Doppler radars, known as WindGuard, operate in the S-band, which is characterized by wavelengths ranging from 7,5 to 15 centimeters and frequencies ranging from 2 to 4 GHz. Their capabilities are sufficient for detecting high-speed objects such as missiles or grenades, which have a relatively large radar cross-section.


However, for those moving at low speed, and also very small in size drones This isn't enough. Therefore, the developers decided to replace WindGuard-type radars with StormGuard stations, built around an active phased array antenna operating in the X-band (8 to 12 GHz at a wavelength of 2,5 to 3,75 cm).

Like their predecessors, StormGuard radars can detect anti-tank missiles and grenades—and do so with greater efficiency in determining their flight paths. They can also "see" objects with a smaller radar cross-section, such as small UAVs or loitering munitions approaching a tank at high speed.

Moreover, given that drones can move at very low speeds or even hover in the air, the modernized EuroTrophy with the StormGuard radar has a unique “close-in detection” mode, which has already been implemented in our Arena-M, which is being tested by the troops.


Its operating principle is based on micro-Doppler modulation from the drone's rotating propellers. The blade tips, at high speeds, have a high linear velocity, so the radio signal reflected from them experiences additional rapid Doppler shifts. Simply put, the quadcopter's body may be flying slowly or even hovering, but its propellers continue to rotate. To radar, this appears as a target with a characteristic "jitter" in the reflected signal.

Distribution of targets and the possibility of using auxiliary weapons


The second most significant problem with active defense systems, especially classics like Trophy and similar systems, in the context of counter-drone warfare is their limited counter-munition inventory. Standard launchers, even upgraded ones, can't hold many (the Arena-M, for example, only has three per defended sector), while attacking drones can carry as many as a dozen or even two.

During a massive attack, the APS will quickly use up all its ammunition and cease to perform its primary function.

The modernized EuroTrophy addresses this through two innovations. The first is target identification and distribution.

Essentially, StormGuard radars and their associated computing unit analyze target parameters—speed, trajectory, size, micro-Doppler “signature”—and match them against templates corresponding to various types of threats, such as an anti-tank guided missile, an RPG, a loitering munition, a quadcopter, or even an aircraft-type unmanned aerial vehicle.

The second is the distribution of targets according to the methods of their destruction.

For example, if EuroTrophy detects an anti-tank guided missile or grenade approaching a protected target (tank, infantry fighting vehicle, etc.), it calculates the trajectory of the dangerous target and issues a command to fire fragmentation counter-munitions. After all, a missile or grenade is a high-speed weapon, and to guarantee its destruction with the first shot, it's important to cover a relatively large area with a dense stream of fragments/pre-fabricated shrapnel.


If a drone or loitering munition (low-speed object) is detected in dangerous proximity, the system decides to destroy it using the tank's additional/auxiliary weapons - a remote-controlled machine gun on the roof of the turret or a small-caliber automatic cannon.

To achieve this, EuroTrophy is effectively integrated into the tank's digital fire control system and features, so to speak, an "open" interface for synchronizing machine gun/cannon modules. The EuroTrophy computer takes into account all module parameters and status.

This concerns the altitude and location of the machine gun/cannon mount, its barrel's elevation and azimuth (where the barrel is pointing when the drone is detected), aiming speed, the muzzle velocity of the bullet/projectile, its type, and much more. Based on this data, the computer calculates the lead and issues the command to engage the target.

Thus, the EuroTrophy truly increases its efficiency. Against complex targets like missiles and grenades, which a machine gun simply can't shoot down due to their high velocity, counter-munitions are used—though there are relatively few of them, and even these rounds aren't constantly flying at a tank. Meanwhile, against simpler targets like drones, the machine gun or automatic cannon's ammunition is used—they carry more ammunition, allowing for longer firing ranges.

Naturally, fully manually controlled machine gun mounts, like the closed one on the T-64, aren't suitable for this. They should be integrated into an automated digital tank fire control system, but that's not all that uncommon these days. The ARX 30 mount with a 30mm automatic cannon from the French, for example, is perfectly suitable for such tasks.

Conclusions


What can I say?

First of all, it's certainly gratifying that the Israelis, as experienced as we are in producing active defense systems, have chosen to detect drones using their rotating propellers. When the patent for the Arena-M, upgraded in this way, was first published, many "experts" scoffed at the stupidity of the idea. But no, as we see, for active defense systems with radars, this is essentially the only method for detecting hovering drones.

As for the EuroTrophy itself, it's a perfectly serviceable product. It lacks unnecessary bells and whistles like optoelectronic detection and targeting systems, but it does have the ability to use machine guns and cannons to combat drones. And that's a good thing, since counter-munitions are in short supply for these propeller-powered killers.

But it will be expensive, very expensive. The standard Trophy is far from cheap, and this one offers much more functionality. But there's no other way; they'll buy it. Nowadays, and especially in the future, you can't live without such systems.
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  1. +1
    22 June 2026 04: 29
    As for the EuroTrophy itself, it's a perfectly serviceable product. It lacks unnecessary bells and whistles like optoelectronic detection and targeting systems, but it does have the ability to use machine guns and cannons to combat drones. And that's a good thing, since counter-munitions are in short supply for these propeller-powered killers.
    But it will be expensive, very expensive. The standard Trophy is far from cheap, and this one offers much more functionality. But there's no other way; they'll buy it. Nowadays, and especially in the future, you can't live without such systems.
    Well, it's a profitable business!
    A tank can survive a BZ and still survive! In fact, armored vehicles—tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and armored personnel carriers—can be used like the Jews—many times, not just once! And the crews are still alive!
    And the price is from 300 thousand USD to 900 thousand USD per KAZ, depending on the contract, per piece.... yes, it's like a sports car/jeep in an elite version or a small yacht for the mistress of a mid-level official (in Europe, such outrages, of course, are with mid-level officials).
    request
    1. +1
      22 June 2026 05: 13
      Quote: Wildcat
      (In Europe, such disgraces, of course, are committed by average people).

      How do you know this?
      1. +7
        22 June 2026 05: 27
        I read the Military Review, there in Europe, the corruption is terrible!
        Yesterday, for example, there was a news story on VO: the wife of the Spanish Prime Minister is being dragged to court! Horrible. No words!
  2. +2
    22 June 2026 05: 30
    I wonder if we're developing similar things here? It's a rhetorical question; it's clear that if they are, they're classified as "top secret." I'd love to see protected vehicles (not just tanks, but also infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers) in large numbers on the LBS. How much longer can we just keep making barbecues?
  3. 0
    22 June 2026 05: 48
    elements.
    To reduce the thermal signature, it is optimal to use a high-pressure pneumatic drive instead of a powder charge.
    When falling from a height, the striking elements, shaped like maple seeds, will rotate and collide with the UAV, causing damage to the optics, wings, electronics, propellers and jet engines of the UAV. [media=https://]
  4. +3
    22 June 2026 06: 34
    Just one question regarding drone detection by rotating propeller blade tips:
    And if the propeller has a protective cover around the perimeter, it won’t be detected?
    1. +1
      22 June 2026 10: 39
      This is a question that remains unanswered. But since the Jews went there too...
  5. -1
    22 June 2026 07: 02
    the need to strengthen protection against drones at the SVO, military-industrial complex and other important facilities.
    In connection with this, I came up with some ideas:
    1. For the infantryman: use the underbarrel grenade launcher principle on the AK, mounting not just one, but two to four rounds. With a selector switch to adjust the firing sequence, depending on the UAV's arrival or departure. Moreover, the rounds have different detonation delays.
    1. 0
      22 June 2026 07: 03
      For stationary objects: using automatic firing from a multi-barrel weapon with projectiles with different detonation delay times.
      Each barrel has its own fixed firing arc. Overlapping edges of these arcs creates a continuous wall of projectiles, even against a swarm of UAVs. The projectiles are optimally shaped like maple seeds. When collected from the ground, they can be reused as projectiles.
  6. 0
    22 June 2026 07: 58
    Its operating principle is based on micro-Doppler modulation from the drone's rotating propellers. The blade tips have high linear velocity at high speeds, so the radio signal reflected from them experiences additional rapid Doppler shifts.

    And it seems that no one guessed that the screws could be plastic,
    1. IVZ
      +2
      22 June 2026 08: 09
      Or in ring nozzles, which, by the way, will increase their efficiency and reduce the acoustic signature.
    2. +3
      22 June 2026 09: 28
      Quote from solar
      And it seems that no one guessed that the screws could be plastic,

      Plastic has a different refractive index than air, so it also reflects waves. Less than metal, but still. Have you seen how glass and plastic optics reflect? Especially uncoated ones.
      1. -2
        22 June 2026 10: 14
        that's why it also reflects the wave

        "Wave" is a vague, everyday term. The RCS of plastic is negligible at the frequencies used in radar.
        1. 0
          22 June 2026 21: 19
          What's the EPR of an RPG grenade? How was the APS supposed to deflect shaped-charge munitions if the munition with the plastic drone above it can't see anything?
          1. 0
            22 June 2026 22: 41
            What is the EPR of an RPG grenade?

            There is a metal body and filling with metal conductive elements of a rather complex design.
            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/РПГ-7
            1. 0
              22 June 2026 22: 47
              Well, I don't see how it could be hidden. There are neodymium magnets, a bunch of wires, including in coils, and a lithium battery the size of an electric razor, maybe even bigger. And plastic doesn't hide all this stuff from radar; it's not some magical meta-material that absorbs radio waves or transmits them around itself.
              1. -1
                22 June 2026 23: 20
                According to the article, they use so-called Doppler radars. They react specifically to the speed of movement.
                This works well against projectiles or missiles, but poorly against drones, which can move slowly.
                That's why we tried to add a mode for detecting fast-spinning drone propellers.
                Its operating principle is based on micro-Doppler modulation from the drone's rotating propellers. The blade tips have high linear velocity at high speeds, so the radio signal reflected from them experiences additional rapid Doppler shifts.

                But this only works against conductive screws.
                1. 0
                  23 June 2026 00: 28
                  Quote from solar
                  According to the article, they use so-called Doppler radars. They react specifically to the speed of movement.

                  Modern Doppler radars can see objects moving at a speed of a couple of km/h and they are usually not so primitive that the computing unit only scans the signal modulation to see if it has changed or not.
                  Quote from solar
                  But this only works against conductive screws.

                  It works very well against those and sees from kilometers away. It sees regular plastic ones just fine. These kinds of radars are sold abroad for civilian use, and they immediately claim they work on hovering drones, too. The built-in, supposedly brilliant AI knows that crows don't hover and doesn't have propellers, which even illuminate a little from the casing.
                  1. 0
                    23 June 2026 00: 53
                    But he sees regular plastic ones just fine.

                    How?
                    1. 0
                      23 June 2026 02: 21
                      It's like how a traffic cop's radar detects a plastic Chinese car. Or how a radar detects an airplane made of non-conductive fiberglass composite. Similarly, an X-ray passes through soft tissue, but its contours are still quite visible, including any irregularities in the lungs. Or how a thermal imager detects rocks against the ground—its sensitivity allows it.
                      The drone's range for the APS is a couple hundred meters, while more powerful devices are installed on oligarchs' yachts or bourgeois airfields, and those range up to a couple of kilometers.
                      1. 0
                        23 June 2026 07: 56
                        It's like how a traffic cop's radar detects a plastic Chinese car.

                        Even the Chinese haven't yet come up with a car made entirely of plastic, without metal parts, and with a plastic driver inside.
                        Or how radar sees an aircraft made of non-conductive fiberglass composite.

                        Have you ever heard of an airplane without metal parts?
                      2. +1
                        23 June 2026 10: 29
                        Have you ever heard of a drone made entirely of plastic parts? And why would you assume radar can't detect the boundary between two dielectrics?
                      3. 0
                        23 June 2026 10: 40
                        Read more carefully what we're talking about. It's about recognizing a drone based on its propeller rotation.
                        Its operating principle is based on micro-Doppler modulation from the drone's rotating propellers.
                      4. +1
                        23 June 2026 10: 47
                        And you think the boundary between two dielectrics, one of which is rotating, is invisible to radar? And what's written doesn't rule out everything else.
                      5. -1
                        23 June 2026 10: 52
                        Let's look together at a link to a radar that operates strictly on dielectrics.
                      6. +1
                        23 June 2026 11: 59
                        Radar operates strictly via radio waves. So, are you saying that radio waves pass right through plastic blades, but Doppler radar detects them due to signal modulation? Or are you claiming that nothing in the radar range can detect plastic, and that's all just bullshit and lies?
                      7. -1
                        23 June 2026 12: 34
                        So you're saying that radio waves pass right through the plastic blades, but Doppler radar sees them because of signal modulation?
                        No, of course not, radar can't detect dielectrics due to their extremely low electrical conductivity. Which is exactly what I'm proving to you.
                      8. +1
                        23 June 2026 14: 05
                        Does the radio altimeter only work over the sea or wet land? Does it produce outlandish numbers over the Sahara Desert?
                      9. -1
                        23 June 2026 15: 01
                        Is our Earth radio transparent?
                      10. +1
                        23 June 2026 15: 28
                        So, in the Sahara, the soil is sand, a dielectric. Or do you think the radio waves will reflect off groundwater, which is conductive, or maybe off the core? How do you even comprehend that?
                      11. +1
                        23 June 2026 17: 58
                        Didn't answer the question.
                        Is our Earth radio transparent?

                        In general, you have been carried far away from the radio transparency of the propellers.
                        Good luck in studying the issue.
                        hi
                      12. +1
                        23 June 2026 18: 36
                        So what is the ground? What does the radio altimeter's radio wave reflect off of? Sand, earth, rocks. It's not some special object, one and indivisible. But I think in your universe, different laws of physics work differently in different cases.
                      13. +1
                        23 June 2026 18: 47
                        Research the issue. The resistivity of dry sand is 1,5-4,2 kOhm per meter. It's very far from the insulator, as is the case with other soils.
                        https://www.ips-energo.ru/blog/tablitsa-vybora-udelnogo-soprotivleniya-razlichnykh-tipov-gruntov-i-vody/
                      14. 0
                        23 June 2026 18: 56
                        And how close to zero are the currents induced by the radio altimeter that they can be detected? And how deep does the ground penetrate, since it's such a weak conductor?
                      15. +1
                        23 June 2026 19: 08
                        since he is such a weak conductor?

                        What makes you think it's weak? Stand barefoot on dry sand and lick the phase—you'll feel how weak it is.
                      16. -1
                        23 June 2026 21: 39
                        You probably checked. What happens if you stand on linoleum and lick the phase? What about a plastic bag? lol
                        Let's look at it from a different angle: why don't Fresnel's formulas work for dielectrics and radio waves in your universe? A 450 nm electromagnetic wave hits glass, a dielectric, but for some reason you can see your own reflection in the glass, especially if it's dark outside. Of course, a mirror would reflect more, but nothing would pass through—it's aluminum, after all. The same laws apply to radio waves. Similarly, the same laws of scattering apply to radio waves, even without any conducting media.
                      17. +1
                        23 June 2026 22: 36
                        You probably checked?

                        But I’m not saying that the conductor is weak, you wrote that.
                        As for Fresnel's formula, it's better to start with Ohm's formula. For now, just get back to the topic at hand and find a radar that works on dielectrics.
                        hi
                      18. +1
                        23 June 2026 23: 48
                        Quote from solar
                        As for Fresnel's formula, it's better to start with Ohm's formula.

                        What does Ohm's formula (or perhaps law?) have to do with the reflection of electromagnetic waves? Fresnel's law is precisely about reflection, don't you like it? Maybe because you only covered Ohm's law in school, and only superficially covered optics? laughing
                        Quote from solar
                        For now, just get back to the topic of conversation and find a radar that works on dielectrics.

                        Let me think? Hmm, maybe ground penetrating radar?
                        https://impulseradargpr.com/ru/utility-locating/
                        They search for pipes, plastic and metal, fiber-optic cables. And there's also something about finding cavities and all sorts of broken pots for archaeologists. But for you, perhaps all this is the wrong dielectric? Just like weather radars that see clouds (and what's a cloud's permittivity?) and swarms of insects. lol
                      19. 0
                        24 June 2026 01: 17
                        Electromagnetic wave is a very broad concept.
                        Electromagnetic wave scale
                        Depending on wavelength and frequency, electromagnetic waves are divided into ranges:
                        Radio waves: the longest waves (from millimeters to kilometers). They are used in radar, radio broadcasting, Wi-Fi, and cellular communications (including 5G standards).
                        Infrared radiation: invisible to the eye, perceived by the skin as heat. Used in remote controls and night vision devices.
                        Visible light: the narrow range of light that the human eye can perceive (from red to violet).
                        Ultraviolet radiation: the high-energy range, the source of tanning.
                        X-rays: penetrate soft tissues of the body, used in medicine.
                        Gamma rays: The highest energy and frequency waves produced by nuclear reactions and radioactive decay.

                        There are other gradations.
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Электромагнитное_излучение
                        Let me think? Hmm, maybe ground penetrating radar?

                        We're talking about UAV detection, if you've forgotten, and using a specific method—rotating propellers using Doppler selection—so don't be too far-fetched. Ground penetrating radar is designed for a completely different purpose, operates on a completely different principle, and doesn't work in all soils. It doesn't work in wet clay soils, for example. And yes, not all radars are created equal, so let's return to the type of radar we're discussing—Doppler radar in the narrow sense of the word.
                      20. 0
                        23 June 2026 23: 59
                        https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/15/14/3663
                        By the way, here's an open-source article about radar studies of dielectrics. I'm a chemist and not very good with complex physics; long formulas confuse me, but I do know a few things. hi
                      21. 0
                        24 June 2026 01: 00
                        I'm actually a chemist.

                        Got it. Just type in "radio-transparent plastic."
                    2. 0
                      23 June 2026 07: 43
                      Quote from solar
                      How?

                      Here's an example of a simple Doppler locator that reacts to human movement in a room: "Radar Module RCWL-0516"
                      https://www.ozon.ru/product/radarnyy-modul-rcwl-0516-s-funktsiey-povtornogo-srabatyvaniya-3553758176/?__rr=1
                      Costs less than 100 rubles. One microwave transistor and a microcircuit. A lower reflectivity doesn't mean detection is impossible; it simply means detection will occur at a shorter range, with the range decreasing proportionally to the fourth root of the decrease in the radar cross-section. In other words, an object with a radar cross-section a million times smaller will be detected at a range only thirty times shorter. For drones, this is perfectly acceptable. For drones, the radar wavelength is more important. Its wavelength should be shorter than the length of the structural elements being detected. Radars in the centimeter or, better yet, millimeter range are required.
                      1. 0
                        23 June 2026 07: 54
                        Here is an example of a simple Doppler locator that reacts to movement. people in the room

                        A person is not plastic, he is an electrical conductor.
                      2. 0
                        23 June 2026 08: 16
                        Let's take polyethylene, for example. Here's what Alice "thinks" about its microwave reflectivity:
                        "Let me clarify right away: polyethylene doesn't have a single, universal microwave reflectivity value—it varies greatly depending on frequency. I chose the value as it's usually described in research.
                        dslib.net +1

                        In theoretical and experimental works (for example, in calculations using the transfer matrix method) the following picture is shown:

                        In some frequency ranges the reflection coefficient can be quite low (about 15%).
                        Sometimes resonant peaks occur, and then the value increases sharply. (up to 40% and higher).
                        Between such extremes, there are "windows of transparency" where reflection is minimal.
                        "I will examine in detail how permittivity affects the reflection of electromagnetic waves in the microwave range.

                        The main mechanism
                        The reflection coefficient at the interface between two media is determined by the difference in their permittivities (ε). The greater this difference, the stronger the reflection.
                        Example calculation for air (ε1 = 1) and different materials:
                        ε2 = 2,25 (polyethylene): R≈0,02 (2% reflection);
                        ε2 =4 (some ceramics): R≈0,11 (11% reflection);
                        ε2 =9 (highly permeable ceramics): R≈0,25 (25% reflection)."

                        School physics course wink
                      3. 0
                        23 June 2026 09: 12
                        This is what Alice "thinks"...

                        Sorry, I didn't even read further. ...
                        hi
                      4. 0
                        23 June 2026 09: 25
                        No need to apologize, I just thought you needed something simpler. I can also refer you to an academic publication. hi :
                      5. 0
                        23 June 2026 09: 35
                        I can also refer to an academic publication.

                        They cite the publication when they present arguments. I haven't seen any yet.
                        Just for your consideration: have you seen missiles or planes with radar? What do you think their radar antenna is covered with on the outside?
                      6. +2
                        24 June 2026 07: 10
                        Quote from solar
                        I haven't seen them yet.

                        You simply don't want to see them, or your education doesn't allow you to understand them. You've already been shown that polyethylene, which is practically the best dielectric, reflects at least 2%. And this is due solely to the difference in refractive index. This means that the detection range for the same radar with plastic propellers will be only 2,66 times shorter than for a UAV with the same-sized metal propellers.
                        And I don’t need to tell you about antenna fairings - I’m a radio engineer by education.
                        Try reading up on lidars; they simply detect reflected waves from atmospheric irregularities. This is more complex than detecting plastics.
                      7. -2
                        24 June 2026 09: 54
                        And I don’t need to tell you about antenna fairings - I’m a radio engineer by education.

                        So, tell me about detecting radio-transparent plastics, if you're an engineer. Let's look at a specific radar, rather than rehash vague generalities like lidars and schmidars, which are actually optical.
    3. +1
      22 June 2026 10: 57
      Plastic also reflects.
      1. 0
        22 June 2026 11: 25
        More accurately, some types of plastic. But there are also plenty of those that don't reflect.
        1. +2
          23 June 2026 10: 58
          All plastics reflect. They all have a higher dielectric coefficient than air, so they refract and reflect waves.
          1. 0
            23 June 2026 11: 26
            Have you ever wondered what radar antennas on airplanes are covered with?
            All have a dielectric coefficient higher than air.

            Let's look at a link to a radar that operates on dielectrics...
            dielectric coefficient
            There is no such thing. Dielectric constant exists.
            1. +1
              23 June 2026 18: 38
              Have you ever wondered what radar antennas on airplanes are covered with?
              Well, pilots fly in sunglasses, and I guess they can't see anything because of that, either?
            2. +1
              24 June 2026 09: 47
              Well, radars work on birds, they see them perfectly. And they are not made of metal.
              Yes, of course, "dielectric constant" is correct.
              1. 0
                24 June 2026 09: 49
                Well, radars work on birds, they see them perfectly. And they are not made of metal.

                They are conductive, just like people.
  7. BAI
    0
    22 June 2026 08: 33
    When the patent for the Arena-M, upgraded in this way, was first published, many "experts" scoffed at the stupidity of the idea. But no, as we see, for radar-equipped APS systems, this is effectively the only method for detecting hovering drones.

    If we have patented it, then why on earth is Israel implementing it?
    Or does patent law mean nothing to anyone? (Except us).
  8. +1
    22 June 2026 08: 40
    Back in the summer of 2023, I provided calculations for the ammunition consumption for destroying drones. At a range of one kilometer, that amounted to 4000 shots per drone. Therefore, only remotely controlled drones with video cameras and automated maneuvers can be effective for destroying drones. Small arms and cannons will only be effective at short ranges. Missiles, even specially designed ones, are too expensive. The exception is high-explosive shells of 100 mm or more caliber with programmable detonation time. But these don't yet exist, nor do anti-drone guidance systems for such calibers...
    But our bosses are investing in electronic warfare systems, microwaves, and shotguns, but not in air defense drones. And yet, over the past five years, everyone has written about them! It's too bad the Ukrainians developed these drones first, but maybe now we'll get them too. Although, if incompetent, thieving colonels aren't dismissed for making bad decisions, then...
    .
    To combat remote-controlled enemy air defense drones, electronic warfare is most likely to be used. This means that every tenth Geranium should carry a jammer instead of a warhead. How not to jam your own is common knowledge. If your engineers are clueless, ask me. I'll suggest at least three methods. That'll do for now. In the near future, we'll have to choose targets not covered by air defenses. For example, power lines.
    .
    Let me remind you that a couple of years ago, some high-ranking officials advocated creating a reserve of geraniums in warehouses. I harshly criticized this decision. So what do we need these geraniums now if the enemy is 100% shooting them down with air defense drones? Did they jail these high-ranking officials for sabotage or fire them for incompetence? No! It turns out I was smarter than the officials in uniform. So maybe it's better to listen to the commentators, not to the colonels and ministers?
    .
    The second change regarding Geraniums, due to the advent of enemy air defense drones, could be their reorientation from long-range strikes to anti-aircraft missiles. The Geranium should be converted into a reusable frontline attack aircraft and used over friendly territory. It would take off, rise above the ground, fire a missile similar to an ATGM, and return for a new missile. Similarly, it could be used for surveillance, reconnaissance, and jamming...
    .
    Finally, I'll repeat my prediction for the summer of 2022. If we win in 2022, an additional 40 million for 40,000 drones will be enough to achieve victory. In 2023, we'll need hundreds of thousands of drones and tens of millions of shells. The costs will be in the billions. If we wait until 2025, hundreds of billions won't be enough for victory. And in 2026, we'll lose 4 trillion due to enemy strikes on our territory. I was slightly mistaken then; I thought Europe would attack us and drop bombs.
    But if we skimp on funds for Victory Day again, anything could happen. The Central Bank and government reserves should be invested in the military-industrial complex!
    1. -1
      22 June 2026 09: 23
      Quote: also a doctor
      The Central Bank and Government reserves should be invested in the military-industrial complex!

      How will we live afterward? Or is victory the main thing, and then let the grass grow?
      1. 0
        24 June 2026 09: 49
        And Russia lives on reserves, producing nothing? laughing
    2. 0
      22 June 2026 10: 43
      As long as the current "leaders" are in charge of the Central Bank, let the industrialists keep their pockets deeper. Everything goes to the banks and abroad.
    3. 0
      22 June 2026 13: 05
      Where are the reserves? Will they give them to us?
      In any case, regarding the Central Bank's reserves, I am completely confident that "no".
      1. 0
        22 June 2026 20: 04
        Can you buy everything with money?
        Will China sell in the required quantities? They don't have any of their own. How can they build factories?
        There aren't enough Siberian forests left for China...
  9. 0
    22 June 2026 12: 19
    During a star attack, a single machine gun or cannon won't do the job. Four corners need to be welded to the engine compartment, and a platform (slightly higher than the turret) with four turrets (belt-fed canisters) needs to be mounted on them.
  10. +1
    22 June 2026 12: 29
    KAZs need to be developed and made cheaper so that they can be used in large numbers.
    1. +1
      22 June 2026 13: 06
      Here, it's more like the opposite. Producing in large quantities makes it cheaper.
  11. 0
    22 June 2026 13: 32
    When a drone approaches from above, the machine gun is unavailable and cannot fire upward. This forces you to rely on counter-ammunition, which limits your ammo supply.
    And the Doppler effect detection based on propeller rotation also loses its effectiveness when approaching from above. The distance from the propeller to the antenna array does not change in this case.
    So, 3-4 drones on top will definitely solve the problem.
    Plus, the whole contraption weighs about 500 kg (plus dimensions). For a tank, that's okay, but for lighter vehicles, it's critical.
    1. +1
      22 June 2026 18: 11
      Quote: boriz
      The Doppler effect detection based on propeller rotation also loses its effectiveness when approaching from above. The distance from the propeller to the antenna array does not change in this case.
      .

      There, the "blinking" frequency of the mark, close to the rotational speed, is most likely taken into account. It's like a glint of light flickering at a certain frequency. The propeller is translucent to the eye and won't detect this frequency, but the equipment will easily detect it. hi
    2. +1
      22 June 2026 21: 16
      Is there anything we can do to make the machine gun fire upwards? Or maybe put two of them on either side?
  12. +1
    22 June 2026 21: 15
    It's unclear how the drones are being detected—they definitely have a sizable lithium battery and a metal anti-tank grenade, and something tells me the radar detects it. The target also has high-contrast infrared (IR)—image recognition is something they can do these days. And then there's the optical system. So what technical issues could the drone be detecting? Well, besides the lack of active protection systems on the vehicle and the resulting empty discussions of "see/don't see" in the comments?
  13. -2
    22 June 2026 21: 43
    Then the drones will attach a warhead in the form of a strike core and hit the Merkava from 100 meters above.
    What distance does their Trophy work at?
    And no one has tried to install radar interference, for example, pulse or relay interference received from Trophy.
    Do they make trophies for those in slippers or for an equal opponent?