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Allegro with fire

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On Monday, a series of powerful explosions thundered in the village of Yekaterinoslavka, Oktyabrsky District, which is called “without declaring war”. People in uniform hurried to reassure the civilian population that nothing terrible had happened, but the official version of the planned exercises that were going on, to put it mildly, caused contradictory feelings. In any case, the eyewitness accounts of the fiery extravaganza greatly diverged from the educational legend of the military.


Witnesses

Let's leave the official version for later and look at the event through the eyes of civilians who have been watching the events from the outside.

- At around 14 p.m. two people left the territory of the military unit tank, almost immediately after that, one car caught fire. At first, the first clap rang out, most likely the fuel in the gas tank exploded, an eyewitness suggests. - Then there was a series of powerful explosions, it looked like shells were tearing. The fire immediately spread to the second tank, an explosion again, the tower was torn off by the tower, it took off about 20 meters into the air and fell near the guardhouse .., everything was covered with black smoke.

- The fire began to rapidly approach our gas station. We were scared. They asked to urgently leave the territory of those who came to refuel. We thought that we, too, can jerk. All staff has gone a safe distance. Watched as the fire engine went to the site of the explosions. The firemen managed to put out the fire in the field, preventing it from getting to the gas station, ”one of the station's employees shared the“ indescribable ”sensations.

“The road from Yekaterinoslav has been blocked,” says another witness. - I do not remember exactly, we stood for about half an hour. We saw clouds of black smoke, saw a damaged hospital building, and windows were broken in it. Someone said that the tanks explode.

Information about the tank explosions received in the Amur Ministry of Emergency Situations. The appearance of black smoke was also recorded in the administration of the Oktyabrsky district.

“Indeed, the signal came to us from local residents,” explained the head of the press service of the Main Directorate of the EMERCOM of Russia in the Amur Region, Raisa Kopyrina. - But these are objects of the Ministry of Defense, therefore they are not letting us in there.

Military

The press service of the 35 Army did not immediately destroy the tanks with fire, but they confirmed it, although they considered that the event was not so significant. The version of the military on a given topic was much more harmless than eyewitness accounts. If not to say more - they called the situation regular, practically conceived according to the legend of the exercise.

“During the instructor-methodical training in the compound deployed in the Amur region, according to practical actions of the tank crew during engine ignition, which were conducted on a tank model using imitation tools, an unauthorized burning of fuel residues occurred, after which the fire spread to the adjacent tank model.

The command of the compound decided to evacuate the models from the park and stop their extinguishing due to the possible explosion of fuel residues in the tanks. As a result of burning, two explosions of fuels and lubricants vapors occurred in fuel tanks.

There were no casualties or damage as a result of the incident, minor material damage was caused, ”the press service of the Eastern Military District reported.

Translated into civil language, it sounds like this: tankers on the model worked out actions in case of force majeure with an engine, but something went wrong, and these models, out of harm's way, were taken to burn out on the field.

Truth

Without questioning the “military” version of the incident, let us allow ourselves to ask a number of clarifying questions, without answers to which this officialdom sounds, to put it mildly, not very convincingly. The first: according to the official version, before the evacuation, both models were already burning, but eyewitnesses claim that the second tank caught fire only after the first car exploded. The second: how much fuel should be in the tanks of the layouts, so that, when ignited, disrupt the turret from the tank, raise it by two dozen meters into the air and knock out the glass in the building with a shock wave. Third: if banal mock-ups burned, even with real engines, then why didn’t the Ministry of Emergency Situations and civilian firefighters be allowed into the site of a fire? Fourth: how justified is it to conduct such training on the territory of the unit, stuffed with military equipment and arsenals. Wouldn't it be wiser to “play” with fire somewhere at the test site, away from the civilian population and the gas station? And the last: if no one was injured and it was stated that the material damage is insignificant, then why a special commission will deal with the circumstances of the incident

Ministry of Defense from Moscow

As it seems, these questions do not in any way discord with the official version of the military, which means it is possible to put forward another, lying in the plane of a real state of emergency, with real military equipment. Not excluding the fact that one of the tanks could be with ammunition. If so, then the situation could unfold according to the following scenario: a tank fire (wiring, bungling ...) in a box or on the territory of a part - hastily evacuating it outside the gate with another tank and into the final - a series of powerful explosions, as witnesses testify. In this scenario, the special secrecy of the military in terms of the elimination of the state of emergency becomes absolutely justified.

However, these are just thoughts out loud, which can be dispelled or confirmed by experts from the Ministry of Defense. The only thing that I would like to believe with pleasure from the official army press release, that everything really did without victims and injured.

PS When the newspaper issue was being prepared for printing, the following information appeared on the official website of the Military Investigation Department of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation on the Belogorsk garrison: “According to investigators, about ten hours in May of the current year on the territory of the tank fleet of the military unit 20 a fire occurred T-21720 tank. When it was towed outside the park, the fire spread to another tank, which caused detonation and explosions of tank ammunition located in the indicated tanks. A criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Art. 80 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (destruction or damage to military property through negligence).
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  1. Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 25 May 2013 15: 27 New
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    I have a question for the tankers, but what is there that the tractor does not have a duty tractor for such cases? Or do you need to take out a burning tank with another tank and even with ammunition?
    1. PISTOL
      PISTOL 25 May 2013 15: 40 New
      -4
      warriors light)))
      1. Blackgrifon
        Blackgrifon 25 May 2013 18: 29 New
        -2
        You would be for a "warrior" in this tank.
    2. Genady1976
      Genady1976 25 May 2013 15: 51 New
      0
      they have such teachings
    3. Larus
      Larus 25 May 2013 16: 29 New
      +6
      In our park, there was always a mechanic on duty just for the tractor. Maybe now after the reform it was decided that they were not needed .... And the tanks in the park with ammunition .....
      1. sergei_e
        sergei_e 25 May 2013 20: 50 New
        +2
        in 20 omsb all equipment with ammunition in the park is
    4. piter-tank
      piter-tank 25 May 2013 18: 13 New
      +7
      The tractor on duty could be corrupted. And in such a situation, as usual, they grab what is at hand. In this case, the tank turned out to be.
      The ignition of the tank is not that ordinary, but not rare. The reasons are different, but most often slovenly or shorted wiring. The UA-PPO (fire fighting) system of a tank is very far from perfect and unreliable. In general, the final is logical. Lucky everyone that there are no dead, both military and civilian.
      During my service in the GSVG (1985-1989), 3 T-64 tanks burned down and exploded in the division, 1 officer was killed.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 25 May 2013 18: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: piter-tank
        The tractor on duty could be corrupted.

        Not just an excuse, but just fool The truck tractor on duty cannot be faulty — it is simply replaced with another and the faulty one is sent for repair. The carrier automatically receives the lyuley first from the park attendant, then from the officer on duty for part, then from the unit commander, and if such cases are not uncommon, he must always be on standby
        1. Nick
          Nick 25 May 2013 22: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Ruslan67
          The tractor on duty cannot be faulty - it is simply replaced by another and the faulty one is sent for repair

          So it is so, but miracles happen in the army. In 81, at one of the sites of our unit, a test launch of the product was carried out. About 10 minutes before the start, the guard was to be removed from the site and transported to a safe place. The fact is that during the start there is a powerful infrasonic radiation, which affects the human psyche, up to complete frustration, as they say "phase shift" can occur, or even lethal. The guys were saved by the fact that when they were enrolled in the security units, everyone passed a mental stability test, and the carp was relatively far from the starting position, something about 200 m. On other sites, they are located fifty meters from the BSP. We got off with a slight short-term memory disorder ...
          When the commander in his UAZ flew to the site, immediately after the launch, and saw the guard personnel sitting on the bench, his father went to the back of his head ... I asked him not to tell anyone.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 25 May 2013 22: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: piter-tank
        The tractor on duty could be corrupted. And in such a situation, as usual, they grab what is at hand. In this case, the tank turned out to be.

        Somehow we were allowed to take any equipment from the long-term storage warehouse to clear the site for the construction of an underground storage. So we chose BAT-M and a miracle !! wound up the sixth in a row!
    5. waisson
      waisson 25 May 2013 19: 22 New
      +7
      surely there was but a one-year-old tankman was sitting in the duty tractor who, having seen this, ran to the committee of soldier’s mothers to ask what they should do, and when to serve, one of the hemispheres still can’t think about it
  2. Yozhas
    Yozhas 25 May 2013 15: 41 New
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    Who makes the repair of the tank with ammunition. When they enter a room with a machine gun, they discharge it on the street.
    Two tanks were burned, they decided to hide behind that one was a mock-up - they would put in less pistons.
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 25 May 2013 16: 33 New
      +2
      still lucky that the whole part was not burned, you think 2 tanks there are probably more than 20000 thousand (mock-ups) burn, I don’t want to cut everything smoothly, they are going, everything is going according to plan
    2. flanker7
      flanker7 25 May 2013 22: 07 New
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      Maintenance was carried out. This is not a repair. The ammunition is not unloaded, with the exception of inspecting the ammunition itself, well, once every six months. I believe that the air defense system was empty, or for some other reason was inoperative. There is simply no other reason for the untimely elimination of fire inside the tank . Well, if the fire came from outside, then everything could be done with external fire extinguishers. Each tank costs 1 pc. And if you put out the fire, start hooking the tank and trying to pull it out of the box, etc. then .... what happens will happen. Unfortunately!
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  3. Owl
    Owl 25 May 2013 15: 46 New
    +9
    It is a shame to call the combat vehicles of the "combat training group" mock-ups. During my service as the commander of an SMB PTV on an armored personnel carrier, there were 2 such vehicles in the platoon, they differed from the others only in that they stood in an open parking lot, there was no ammo in the vehicles at KPVT, at PKT and on small arms l / s, both took part in all field exercises of the SME, from driving and shooting, to battalion exercises.
  4. stranik72
    stranik72 25 May 2013 15: 50 New
    +5
    I strongly doubt that there was a BC in the tanks, but to burn a tank, but not just one, it's like "2 fingers on the asphalt" for us, we are an unusual people. wassat
    1. Genady1976
      Genady1976 25 May 2013 15: 53 New
      +3
      break not build
  5. My address
    My address 25 May 2013 16: 26 New
    0
    Great!
    And in part did not try to put out? And other questions, see other commentators? It smells like lies. But even if this is so, then in 70, the commander of the unit would have been kicked out of the army. Now I don’t know, there is nowhere to go, it’s necessary to get out of the cesspool with such people after Serdyukov.
  6. Averias
    Averias 25 May 2013 16: 29 New
    +4
    "The city was asleep, he did not know - that the exercises were going." Looks like there were very specific exercises, apparently they were practicing the evacuation of the crew from the torn off tank turret, from a height of 20 meters in flight (not funny, of course, but how else to interpret the military's explanations). Damn, the gut is thin or something, take courage and say - well, yes, an emergency has happened, there are no victims, we will deal with what happened. After all, it happens that for the truth and not punished so much than for a lie. Although.....
    1. Averias
      Averias 25 May 2013 16: 54 New
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      Damn, what is it, why does the EU avatar have a flag, but I live in Russia. This is not the first time.
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 25 May 2013 22: 00 New
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        So the flag is the USSR
  7. Stalinets
    Stalinets 25 May 2013 16: 37 New
    +1
    But do you already have PPS in tanks? Che tanks extinguish a bucket of water? The fire spread! I'll pay right now. Paper tanks were. Rave. fool
  8. v53993
    v53993 25 May 2013 16: 40 New
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    The main thing in the information is that the military did not die. And, the fact that this happened near the gas station, there is also a positive moment in terms of preparation for actions in special conditions. And PREDEMELI will provide them to us soon, if we do not liquidate them as a class before.
  9. cocktail46
    cocktail46 25 May 2013 17: 19 New
    +6
    Photo of this event
  10. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 25 May 2013 18: 03 New
    +2
    Judging by the photo, he pulled up ammunition, but in the park? The case smells like a tribunal.
  11. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 25 May 2013 18: 51 New
    -1
    The article is not something that would be a "minus" ....., but the journalistic investigation was carried out on a "C". Most importantly, I never found out the name and surname of the tanker who towed the burning tank.
  12. Suhov
    Suhov 25 May 2013 19: 22 New
    -1
    The reckless tank is a terrible weapon.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 26 May 2013 00: 46 New
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      Quote: Sukhov
      The reckless tank is a terrible weapon.

      A reckless tank is nothing, but a reckless tanker is already something
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 26 May 2013 00: 48 New
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        Quote: lewerlin53rus
        A reckless tank is nothing, but a reckless tanker is already something



        .........No comments laughing
  13. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 25 May 2013 20: 37 New
    +2
    And who will indemnify? Vanya-switchman-private? And why so stupidly to lie, not for the first time.
  14. 1st_user
    1st_user 25 May 2013 23: 07 New
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    Yes, by the way, why so far no one has talked to the tanker who towed the burning tank? Without this, the investigation is not such.
    1. Alexander D.
      Alexander D. 26 May 2013 19: 11 New
      0
      The tanker was burned and, apparently, is in some kind of infirmary.
    2. No_more
      No_more 28 May 2013 11: 02 New
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      And he will be shown directly to everyone in such a situation and will be allowed to tell him whatever he wants. Do you yourself believe that someone other than the military prosecutor’s office and his superiors will have the opportunity to speak with him?
  15. ilya63
    ilya63 25 May 2013 23: 13 New
    +2
    the opinion of amateurs how the second tank could catch fire from what, from the fact that the first tank was towing that was burning, and even if it pushed it with its ass it would not catch fire, pops are most likely explosions to weigh the remaining fuel in the outer tanks, and to start tearing shells requires the appropriate temperature and time to heat the fuse and it’s not a fact that the shell detonates, it burned and extinguished the bk and internal tanks more than 2 and 72, the article has many years for the army, and the eyewitness did what and who he was (fake another), the truth is somewhere in the middle, as always, but to intervene in the affairs of the military I would not advise any civilian cattle.
  16. Atlon
    Atlon 26 May 2013 14: 01 New
    -2
    I don’t believe the article. To the author too. The style is too aggressive-self-affirmative-blogging. The author is a kind of expert in all matters and at the same time a satirist writer in one bottle. In general, article "G", author "M", well, and a bold minus.
    1. Severok
      Severok 26 May 2013 15: 12 New
      0
      I believe it, I don’t believe it is of course the landlord’s business, but the fact that the disengagement of troops has long been at the level is a fact.
  17. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 27 May 2013 22: 45 New
    0
    What happened, in fact, is unknown! I can assume that the tankers using gasoline tried to clean the tank inside and out. Cleaning with gasoline, instead of white spirit, is a common thing in the army. Shorting the wiring to the case, caused the ignition of gasoline vapors. For non-specialists: it is impossible to set fire to a diesel fuel even by throwing a cigarette butt or a match into it, and even in the summer, when the solarium evaporates most intensively. Shooting the outer tanks with a solarium from an automatic rifle with an ordinary cartridge will also do nothing. For ignition, incendiary ammunition is required, and even then if the bullet hit the space above the solarium. But! Another thing is if the tanks were filled with gasoline, now the tanks are equipped with multi-fuel engines and can operate on diesel, gasoline and alcohol. He himself served as a tanker and once had to put out the tank inside, after the mechanic, cleaning the tank with gasoline, closed the wiring. From the commander’s hatch, a pillar of flame was a meter on 3.