What is happening in Syria is increasingly threatening the West

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We recently talked about the situation in Syria, noting the improvement in the position of Assad. It must be said that Asad has been holding for such a long time about his not only his mind and wisdom, but also his excellent endurance. After all, for all the time, we have not seen a single breakdown of it, which the Western media would certainly have shown to the whole world. However, the situation is such that the Western media have less and less desire not only to show, but even to mention Syria. There have been serious progress.

All of these "not the most pleasant news"Are becoming more and more dangerous. As it turned out, the conflict has already gone beyond the borders of Syria, and it is precisely with this that President Obama’s statement that the United States refuses the prospect of a ground operation. For us, this is not news at all, and our readers are well aware of this. However, there are some moments that turned out to be unexpected news for us.

In the city of Quasir, which for quite a long time has been the object of a struggle for possession, there was a turning point between government forces and hired killers, whom the West affectionately called fatherly insurgents. In the beginning, it was said that Assad used especially dense aerial bombardments and heavy mortar fire, which led to the fact that the 18 militants were killed and about 300 injured. This is the official data from the other side. However, we have other information.

Over the past three days, more than 500 terrorists have been injured and more than 60 have been killed. In addition, Abu Muhammad Golani, the leader of the influential Syrian terrorist Islamic group Front Al-Nusra fighting against the legitimate authorities in Syria, was wounded during the confrontation, according to other sources. All this became possible because Assad received serious reinforcement and new tactics of warfare. In the West, they suspect that this is Russian know-how. Export not only weapon or ammunition, but using their connections with the Hezbollah movement, the Russians developed a concept that allows using a certain synergistic effect.

The thing here is how it turned out. The fact that Hezbollah has recently been mentioned more and more when it comes to the Syrian conflict is no longer surprising. However, as she now begins to fight, there is some element of surprise in this. Hezbollah is now using partisan tactics. That is, located in the rear of the “insurgents”, Hezbollah’s militants are very active and productive in dealing damage to those who recently spoke of the imminent fall of President Al-Assad. Now there is a panic in their ranks.

Announced a meeting of Assad and the "rebels", dictated by necessity. If the rebels would not agree, then in the near future it could have happened that there would simply be no one to negotiate with Assad. But this new technology is not over. Hezbollah not only helps in Syria, but begins to confront those who plan and coordinate the activities of the "rebels" from abroad. For example, in Lebanon, activists planning operations against Assad were attacked. Of course, the Assad regular army does not have such capabilities, but Hezbollah easily copes with this task. In addition, Hezbollah is expanding the geography of the conflict. Now Israel was among the targets. On the Golan Heights, night skirmishes have been taking place for more than a month, which frankly irritate Israel. Everyone remembers that a week ago Israel bombed objects in Syria. All this happened because Hezbollah is already seriously threatening Israel, harassing it with pinpoint actions, due to which Israel is forced to keep its troops on high alert, which, as it turned out, is not at all a cheap occupation. Military damage to Israel from Hezbollah is not so great yet, but financial damage practically bleeds blood from the Israeli economy.

The Israeli military is declaring their determination not to allow destabilization of the situation inside the country, but the population feels increasingly insecure. The commander of the Israeli Defense Forces of the General Staff, Lieutenant General Beni Ganz, confirmed that the situation in the Golan is becoming increasingly unstable, he said: “I am not a belligerent person, but we must be ready to protect ourselves. In general, the situation in the Golan Heights is becoming increasingly unstable. ” Let us leave on the conscience of the Israeli general a statement about his “not militancy”.

However, what was happening to the militants from the Syrian Free Army (FSA) was a complete shock. They are stunned and demoralized. Qasem Tilavi, the commander of the SSA, said he did not expect Hezbollah to cooperate with Assad. In such conditions, it may be possible to talk about organized confrontation for several more weeks, then only separate centers of resistance will remain, which will simply be filled with the popular anger of the Syrians. Here, the United States could have saved the situation by sending troops, but this definitely will not happen. NATO troops could also help, but this will not happen. Thus, it turns out that there is only one way out - negotiations without preliminary conditions.

In addition to all the troubles, there are also those who suffer direct financial losses in this conflict. This is the UK. Premier Cameron is practically beside himself with rage, practically pushing through an agreement with France on the recognition of Hezbollah as a terrorist organization. However, what will it give? Well, it will probably give something, but the main thing that can be put on pressure is for Assad to refuse to cooperate with "terrorist" Hezbollah. Thus, Cameron wants to break unity in order to avoid the synergistic effect that destroys the "insurgency" in which Britain invests a lot of money. The British, who killed more than half the world for money, will now calmly watch how their money turns to dust? This is what worries Mr. Cameron to intestinal hiccups.

Israeli military press attache Captain Eitan Bukhman said that the shootings at night in the Golan Heights caused much less damage to the military party than the Syrian side said, but in response the soldiers killed the attackers with two missiles. According to the Syrian news agency SANA, the Israeli army patrol SUV was destroyed, and the military attacking him managed to escape safely. Recall that the incident occurred in Syria. An Israeli patrol drove into Syrian territory.

As it turns out, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in the Golan Heights is often brought weapons there. So in one of the night raids an Israeli truck was found on Syrian territory, which delivered ammunition. This indicates the direct participation of Israel in the Syrian conflict. What Israel could win from the victory of terrorists in Syria is not known, most likely it would have lost very large. However, now that everything has become known, millions of people have begun to hate the Jewish state even more.

Who, then, is guilty of growing anti-Semitism? In the Syrian operation, the United Kingdom also did not win anything, but frankly lost. Now when they push another agreement to make new outcasts from Hezbollah, who are probably not saints, but much more honest than the British crown, as a result, many people will increasingly hate the British, Who is to blame for this? As it turns out, the war in Syria is a huge reputational risk and loss for the West. However, the West has no other way out. It turns out that the West was a hunter, but turned out to be prey.
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  1. Agent.
    +24
    25 May 2013 15: 13
    And Russia withstood international pressure - did not surrender its ally.
    1. Agent.
      +1
      25 May 2013 15: 22
      Why did only the West, the USA, and Israel support the “Arab spring” (a series of revolutions) replacing quite adequate politicians with democratically elected Islamists? Why did they overthrow Gadaffi, are trying to overthrow Assad, and at the same time, they are fighting with the same militants in Mali. After all, there is a pragmatic goal, it’s not, and what’s such that it can temporarily make Israel and al-Qaeda allies. It fits into some kind of feasible strategy. The Islamists understand, for the Caliphate, and the West overthrows the rulers with their hands so .... ?????
      1. Anton Karpenko
        +3
        26 May 2013 11: 44
        Agent - Israel does everything reasonably. Jews DO NOT NEED a strong and united Middle East - they need confusion and quarrels around them. the first thing they will do is to unite against Israel, so they embody the principle of "divide and rule".
    2. Samminosh
      0
      25 May 2013 18: 26
      It's too early to talk about this. Maybe they just didn’t offer a good price.
      But the fact that so far is not giving up is clearly
    3. 0
      26 May 2013 08: 32
      Quote: Agent.
      And Russia withstood international pressure - did not surrender its ally.

      Indeed, for Russia, to withstand the pressure of the West is the best you can think of. After the pressure wave slowly drops around the neck of the West, tighten the loop.
  2. fisherman
    +11
    25 May 2013 15: 20
    The successes of the Syrian army are encouraging. Victory will be theirs!
    1. 0
      26 May 2013 12: 33
      Syrians are fighting not only against militants, but also against a whole coalition of NATO Europeans and Americans. I think that with the help of Hayzbollah, Assad will be able to defeat not only militants but also amers and NATO members.
      1. -5
        26 May 2013 12: 49
        Quote: Simon
        Syrians are fighting not only against militants, but also against a whole coalition of NATO Europeans and Americans

        Well, if you fought against NATO and Amerov, where would Assad have been laughing
        1. Anton Karpenko
          +4
          26 May 2013 15: 28
          Don’t troll, atalef, you still won’t beat the Professor - why are you fooling around pretending not to understand that the war is not in the form of open military aggression, but in the form of West support for terrorists in Syria? Or do you really not understand this?
          1. -4
            26 May 2013 18: 30
            Quote: Anton Karpenko
            pretending you don’t understand that the war is not in the form of open military aggression, but in the form of Western support for terrorists in Syria?

            Hamas and Hezbollah are full of Russian weapons. And those and others in Moscow are officially accepted. Can I say that Russia sponsors and supplies weapons to terrorist groups hostile to Israel?
            1. +2
              27 May 2013 12: 49
              Quote: atalef
              Hamas and Hezbollah are full of Russian weapons. And those and others in Moscow are officially accepted. Can I say that Russia sponsors and supplies weapons to terrorist groups hostile to Israel?

              Accept and what? Or do you think that the light came together in Israel? As for the weapons, let me think about whether your 2008 supplied Georgia with weapons? So sing about your friendliness in Israeli forums, they like such tales there.
    2. -1
      26 May 2013 13: 47
      Quote: fisherman
      Victory will be theirs!

      Can say for us fellow
  3. +13
    25 May 2013 15: 24
    Assad wins. May God grant him health, and good luck in the fight against the invaders of the West to the people of Syria.
    1. +6
      26 May 2013 07: 34
      But our compatriots who go to resorts in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are real traitors.
      1. +1
        26 May 2013 12: 17
        These people where to go to the lantern. amers will bomb us and they will go to the usa
      2. +1
        26 May 2013 12: 50
        Quote: Kohl
        But our compatriots who go to resorts in Saudi Arabia and Qatar are real traitors.

        And to Turkey and Egypt?
      3. 0
        19 June 2013 14: 23
        Are there resorts there? In Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
  4. +6
    25 May 2013 15: 33
    Our, as always, do not advertise help. Quietly and methodically hold consultations.
    1. +3
      25 May 2013 16: 56
      Quote: Delink
      Our as always do not advertise help. Quietly and methodically hold consultations.

      Shy:
      Modesty is not a flaw. This is a lack of affluence.
      And arrogance is not happiness, but constant bruises on the face.
  5. +7
    25 May 2013 15: 46
    Although he doesn’t smile at amers somewhere. Yes, and it would be nice for Assad to help. Otherwise, they unbelted. They have a clear task, the closer the war to Russia, the more convenient the west.
  6. +6
    25 May 2013 15: 50
    The foreign policy of the USA and the EU is so illogical that the time is not far off when the Western countries will receive a "gift" from the terrorist mercenaries they support. Remember Al-Qaeda, the death of the American ambassador at the hands of "America's friends." Hezbollah plays a positive role in the Syrian war. The position of Israel is not clear. Which is better, a predictable, legitimate Assad regime or a radical Islamist regime? And the bombing of Syrian territory by Israel is banditry.
    1. +1
      26 May 2013 08: 39
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      The position of Israel is incomprehensible

      And what is not clear, just tidy up the whole Middle East to our own hands. Yes, only we Russian are like a bone in their throat.
    2. wax
      +2
      26 May 2013 11: 15
      US and EU foreign policy is so illogical

      U.S. foreign policy is extremely logical and consistent: hordes of Kalash fighting terrorists are a great opportunity for manipulation and a much smaller threat to the states than the strong modern states, all the more united against the hegemon.
  7. sashka
    +4
    25 May 2013 16: 04
    Stock up on seeds and wait patiently. Not how it ends and how. Just look at your weapon in action .. When else will such an opportunity be provided.
  8. +5
    25 May 2013 16: 08
    The logical conclusion of the war would be the return of the Syrian territories captured by Israel.
    1. Che
      Che
      +5
      25 May 2013 16: 44
      It would be logical for Israel not to interfere in the affairs of Syria, it would be conceived after the destruction of rats. A good neighbor is good for anyone. It is time for adequate states to establish good neighborly relations. Not to controversy with cannibals.
      1. sashka
        +1
        25 May 2013 18: 31
        Quote: Che
        It would be logical for Israel not to interfere in the affairs of Syria,

        +. A good neighbor is when rain from the roof of his house does not flow into your yard.
        1. +1
          25 May 2013 18: 37
          Wow Alexander! Switch to the branch Russian expert: Korean nuclear missile can already hit the USA
      2. 0
        26 May 2013 12: 23
        Israel does everything with a handout and with the support of the states. And if this support does not become? It will not immediately become Israel.
  9. +5
    25 May 2013 16: 16
    This is our right policy. Ever since tsarist times, Russia has been trying to prevent and protect itself in foreign territories by leading garrisons as far as possible from its borders. If Assad had not helped now, the Caucasus would be next again. Unfortunately, our troops from Tajikistan were extradited to someone more important than the minkat.
  10. +3
    25 May 2013 16: 23
    It turns out a typical performer's excess! An excesses of the performer is the commission of the perpetrator of a crime that is not covered by the intent of other accomplices: it turns out that the “friends of Syria” not only does not know what the left hand is, but even when it even knows, does not understand why! But in the end ... The result is deplorable: they began with the destabilization of Syria, and as a result, Turkey, Israel, and other "friends" themselves became destabilized ... When will these "comrades" understand: friendship with the United States - who is the shortest, and to whom and a perverted path to the same address - to the cemetery!
  11. +3
    25 May 2013 16: 47
    But the moment of victory is at hand.
    Hooray! we break; bend "Swedes".
    O glorious hour! oh nice view!
    Another pressure - and the enemy runs:
  12. +1
    25 May 2013 17: 05
    well, really, let's hope for the best, but prepare for the worst ... (c)
  13. +7
    25 May 2013 17: 10
    The pressure on GDP is now "serious"! But it seems to me that it will stand. Can you minus me, but I think that GDP is the person who can raise Russia! And I will support him in every possible way (at least at the family-work level)
  14. +4
    25 May 2013 17: 16
    Good news, Assad well done !!! Keep it up and crush this nits !!!!
  15. shalk
    +1
    25 May 2013 17: 30
    Not everything is so rosy. Syrian media daily report on the capture of el-Quseir from minute to minute. Not working yet. The city is thoroughly fortified by thugs. Hezbollah is also suffering significant losses. They found themselves on the unfamiliar side of the barricades. The just anger of the Syrian people has not yet been embodied everywhere in the burning earth under the feet of the "oppositionists." Sadly, the Syrians will have to shed more of their blood before they cleanse their land of various stinking filth.
    1. +4
      25 May 2013 17: 47
      Do not mislead people --- El Quseir is taken, and there is no doubt about it! There are 2 blockaded areas of the city that are slowly being "cleaned". The army is marching forward! Share you video and photos from El Quseir? -Svezhak! forget, there is an information war!
  16. annenkov242
    +2
    25 May 2013 17: 32
    Israel is evil, but it is led by a perfect evil, a team under the crown of the "keeper of the second covenant", so the Jews make international punctures that are not standard for them. Thank God, the Lord woke up Putin to live and work in Pravda. For how long !?
    1. Katsin
      -9
      26 May 2013 08: 58
      What a blessing that you have Putin !!!!! The accountant and the genius of our time !!! Tears of joy came before my eyes, I can’t make out Claudia ...
      1. wax
        +9
        26 May 2013 11: 08
        Wipe your eyes with a portrait of Netanyahu.
        1. RUSSIA 2013
          +2
          26 May 2013 17: 30
          Quote: Wax
          Wipe your eyes with a portrait of Netanyahu.

          yes, cool saying, I put +, poor Katsin with swollen eyes and a rosemary portrait from Netanyahu's tears.
      2. Good Ukraine
        +1
        26 May 2013 14: 06
        good
        Quote: Katsin
        What a blessing that you have Putin !!!!!


        The main happiness is that there is no Beni in Russia "Nito Hu? - Nito no Hu?" laughing
      3. +1
        26 May 2013 22: 13
        but how lucky you are, you have a "wailing wall" there is where to go and burst into sobs with our happiness crying
  17. 0
    25 May 2013 17: 40
    Great news! Delightful and fruitful game! Bravo to strategists! Down with the world monopoly on "peace settlement!
  18. +2
    25 May 2013 18: 09
    Israel's policy in the Syrian conflict resembles "Divide and conquer" from Latin: Divide et impera, it is generally believed that this was the motto of the foreign policy of Ancient Rome ... incitement of ethnic hatred between nations, the Israelis took up. with the support of the forces necessary for the conductor, the easier it is to solve their problems in the Middle East region. Everyone knows how it ended for the Roman Empire. The so-called barbarians for the time being pitted by Rome dealt with each other. And then they united ... And where is the "Holy Roman Empire" now. The bankrupt policy: "Divide et impera" will destroy Israel too.
    1. Katsin
      -5
      26 May 2013 08: 56
      Dream, dream ... Arabs have been dreaming like this for 65 years, join us ...
      1. wax
        +2
        26 May 2013 11: 22
        Are you still hoping to create millennial Israel?
        1. -1
          30 September 2013 22: 23
          Do not wait for you and others like you! We not only hope, We will create !!! We are a very purposeful people! We always achieve everything we want !!!
  19. shalk
    +1
    25 May 2013 18: 27
    Quote: Den 11
    El Quseir taken


    El Quseir not taken. When they clean it up, then it will be possible to make such statements. Keep photos and videos for your home viewing.
    1. +1
      25 May 2013 18: 41
      It’s in vain that you are so! You’re not up to date. I dare to assume that you have a very distant idea of ​​the army. No offense, okay?
  20. +1
    25 May 2013 18: 35
    It begins to reach the "partners":
    extreme - over
    begins - pi * dec!
    wassat
  21. shalk
    +1
    25 May 2013 18: 54
    Quote: Den 11
    You do not know


    We will not assume who is aware of what and who is not. Let us turn to official sources.
    A message from the Syrian state television channel of May 25, 2013, 15:00.
    “At least a hundred so-called oppositionists were killed during the recent operation of government forces in the city of El Quseir. However, the fighting around this city, located near the border with Lebanon, and of strategic importance for representatives of both sides, has been going on for several weeks and finally knock out the rebels have failed yet. "
    1. 0
      25 May 2013 19: 24
      I won’t argue with you! Why? Not because I have nothing to cover, but because not everything can be said! So it’s necessary (I’m not from the General Staff)!
  22. don.kryyuger
    +2
    25 May 2013 19: 39
    "... again the Englishwoman hurts. (Catherine the Great)
  23. +2
    25 May 2013 23: 02
    Well done !!!
    And help arrived in time :-) dot-y! S-300! carapace!
    I am glad that they did not get scared and did not surrender!
    I forgot about Yakhont.
  24. +1
    26 May 2013 00: 46
    I propose to conduct a discussion in an understandable language. And then the letters are like Russian. no thought .... Remember what it is about: the war of the West against Syria. Well, the discussion should be within the framework of this problem.
  25. Katsin
    -3
    26 May 2013 08: 53
    Quote: Agent.
    Why did only the West, the USA, and Israel support the “Arab spring” (a series of revolutions) replacing quite adequate politicians with democratically elected Islamists? Why did they overthrow Gadaffi, are trying to overthrow Assad, and at the same time, they are fighting with the same militants in Mali. After all, there is a pragmatic goal, it’s not, and what’s such that it can temporarily make Israel and al-Qaeda allies. It fits into some kind of feasible strategy. The Islamists understand, for the Caliphate, and the West overthrows the rulers with their hands so .... ?????




    It is not true . In the West, there was a wrong concept that democracy is a universal solution for the Arab peoples. But with fair elections in Arab countries, the Islamists always win. And Mubarak fell victim to this illusory concept. On this issue, there were great disagreements between Israel and America. After all, we have never harbored illusions about democracy in Arab countries ... The people need to mature to democracy ... Therefore, the fall of Mubarak was taken hard in Israel ... As for Syria, one can only quote Comrade Stalin: "both are worse." We have no interest in overthrowing Assad. Our interest in preventing dangerous weapons from entering Hezbollah and controlling Syria's chemical weapons
    1. Anton Karpenko
      +2
      26 May 2013 15: 41
      Our interest in preventing Hezbollah’s dangerous weapons from entering and control of Syria’s chemical weapons
      - again a fairy tale about a white bull. Would you worry about the lack of chemical weapons to terrorists - you would help Syria deal with them. rather than bombing her.
      Israel's interest is weakened by war and disparate neighbors, not a strong and prosperous Syria.
  26. Katsin
    -3
    26 May 2013 09: 04
    Finally, GDP realized: S-300 shipments to Syria canceled

    http://newsru.co.il/press/26may2013/st_s300_103.html
    1. wax
      +2
      26 May 2013 11: 35
      Actually, air defense systems of this level are needed against air attacks by the Israeli Air Force. If Israel does not attack, then the S-300 is not needed in Syria. It looks like your leader Netanyahu again convinced Putin of Israel's peacefulness. But after all, the supply of S-300 has already been frozen under the words of peacefulness and non-interference to the same Putin. And who once lied, who will believe. I think that Putin is not that gullible. Probably Netanyahu had to take an oath on the Koran "rebels" in addition to the oath on the Bible. We will see. And if the deliveries are really suspended, then we will have the opportunity to again be convinced of the peacefulness of the Jewish state, coupled with the states, their honesty and decency. Or we will witness Assad's victory.
      1. broker
        0
        26 May 2013 13: 47
        I forgot the oath at the Talmud)))
    2. Anton Karpenko
      +1
      26 May 2013 11: 53
      We read your article, we look SOURCE: writes British The Sunday Times weekly.

      Read on -
      The author of the publication, Uzi Makhnaimi, cites a statement by a certain Russian official
      . Please note - cites the statement there was nobody Russian official. That is, the surname of an official is shy to call this newspaper, therefore - the information in the article is UNFATURABLE, and in fact it is another Western stuffing. And you are quoting a Western lie.
    3. Good Ukraine
      +3
      26 May 2013 14: 11
      laughing
      Quote: Katsin
      Finally, GDP realized: S-300 shipments to Syria canceled


      Yeah, they are already there. You can check! laughing

      And you can pull the boats closer. There, two divisions of the Yakhonts are waiting for you, ready to deprive Israel of the entire fleet. laughing

      Go check it !!!!! laughing
      1. 0
        30 September 2013 22: 29
        You still want only the desert left from Syria?
  27. +2
    26 May 2013 09: 30
    Quote: Katsin
    We have no interest in the overthrow of Assad. Our interest in preventing Hezbollah’s dangerous weapons from entering and control of Syria’s chemical weapons

    Interesting interest! To destabilize the situation, to provide assistance to terrorists (forgive the partisans, of course), to launch missile strikes a little from a safe (as you think) distance and ... after that, state that you just do not want to get Hizbullah’s dangerous weapons and at the same time control the chemical weapons in Syria! So your not desire, but rather a lot of desire has already got a lot of people! Many troublesome times await you and perhaps the road is difficult, long!
    1. +3
      26 May 2013 12: 30
      Jews are not the first time to look for a new place
  28. 0
    26 May 2013 10: 18
    The article is interesting, but has the war already ended?
    They don’t sell 300, they regularly show Syria on CNN and BBC, but now, due to the terrorist attacks in London and Paris, the focus of attention has shifted, but the main action of the Syrian drama is yet to come. IMHO
    And as for the Israeli ammunition truck, it was a patrol jeep that received a couple of holes from small arms, and another question is exactly where it was at that moment.
    1. Anton Karpenko
      +1
      26 May 2013 11: 42
      Israel has already lost in Syria. Deal with it, citizen of the aggressor country.
    2. wax
      +2
      26 May 2013 11: 46
      Well, who would doubt it: naturally the truck was on Israeli soil, just like a jeep in El Quseir and Mossad officers. Well, if what happened on Syrian territory, then there were not and there are no Israeli military and no Israeli property, and not Israeli or Israeli aircraft were bombed in Damascus.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-31422-v-al-kasir-v-plen-vzyaty-3-oficera-mossada.html
  29. 0
    26 May 2013 10: 25
    <<< However, what was happening for the militants from the Syrian Free Army (FSA) was a complete shock. They are overwhelmed and demoralized. In addition to all the troubles, there are also those who suffer direct financial losses in this conflict. This is Great Britain. Premier Cameron is practically furious, >>>
    How nice to see panic among NATO gameokratisers, their hangers-on, Saudi-Qatari religious paranoid and their jihadist scumbags, who openly insolently, trampling on every right and principles of peaceful coexistence of different peoples on one land, sowing death and destruction, are engaged in reshaping the world to suit their interests. For the first time, the gigantic machine of suppression and oppression they created has begun not only to slip, but is threatening to collapse under the blows of the Syrian army and its allies. And the farther the Naglo-Saxon and jihadist trash will climb into Syria, the harder it will get "on the tinsel"!
    1. wax
      +1
      26 May 2013 11: 52
      Do not exaggerate - there is no panic there. There is a question - how much to increase the degree of escalation of the conflict with Russia in the Syrian theater of operations, that is, can Russia flinch. And I want, and pricks. If Russia flutters, then Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Great Britain, France, and the United States are in the wives. And if you do not flinch? Image losses of the same defendants will be unacceptable.
    2. 0
      26 May 2013 12: 33
      I read and like a balm on the heart
  30. +3
    26 May 2013 10: 57
    Toit, Katsin, I respect your patriotism, but what to do with the insanity of your allies - to sweep away Mubarak, Assad and the like, to pull the Muslim brothers to your borders? Perhaps it is better to let the dictators sit around than the Salafis will catch up? IMHO, of course, but I like the Chinese Communist Party in the neighbors more than the Taliban and other fruits of amerocracy.
  31. vitas
    +1
    26 May 2013 11: 39
    We help Assad buy time, while Russia keeps the West, he will quickly clean the country of shit. Now they say that the Russian fools support the collapsed regime, only the fat assholes Americans and their European friends are not clear that Assad has already won and the "rebels" will not have much time to fight !!!
  32. Anton Karpenko
    0
    26 May 2013 11: 40
    in the Golan Heights, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) often come and bring weapons there.
    - Yes, this cannot be, because not so long ago one Jew here assured everyone that "Israel is a friend of Syria" and that "there is no ISRAELI weapon in Syria!" Of course not - why would Israel bring its own weapons to Syria when it is possible to bring weapons received from NATO countries, Qatar, Jordan, the United States?
    Which, obviously, is happening.
    Professor - hello to you, citizen is lying.
    1. 0
      26 May 2013 12: 29
      Quote: Anton Karpenko
      in the Golan Heights, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) often come and bring weapons there.

      And I was 3 weeks ago in the Golan Heights. He also delivered ammunition (on Igor’s day 67). As many as 3 faunches of Vodka.
      drinks
      1. Anton Karpenko
        0
        26 May 2013 15: 37
        Each has its own ammunition. But to transport real ammunition, especially from Israeli territory to Syrian terrorists, drunks, as far as I know, are not allowed even in Israel.
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    3. -1
      26 May 2013 14: 10
      Quote: Anton Karpenko
      Professor - hello to you, citizen is lying.

      Well, how would it be without my humble person? laughing
      Show us at least one cartridge from this "truck", citizen "truthful". Until you show us, we will rank you among the squadron of air shakers. Is the truck itself weak to show? wink
      1. Anton Karpenko
        0
        26 May 2013 15: 26
        Professor, almost all serious forum people rank YOU among TROLLS - do I need to worry after that, to whom do you, the forum troll rank me?
        As for both Israeli and NATO munitions, their photographs and videos with trophies have been posted on the Web several times. So your assurances that "Israel does not help terrorists" further strengthen people in the opposite way - it helps, even as it helps.
        Well, as for the air shocks, these are again the Israelis who claimed to have attacked the weapons depots for Hezbollah, but did not give ANY evidence.
        Do not you think that under this pretext you can attack the entire Syrian army - all their tanks, self-propelled guns, rocket launchers, etc. and so on - what if that box with cartridges or that platoon of soldiers "is intended for Hezbollah," but, dear representative states - an air shaker?
        1. -3
          26 May 2013 17: 10
          Quote: Anton Karpenko
          Professor, almost all serious forum people rank YOU among TROLLS - do I need to worry after that, to whom do you, the forum troll rank me?

          You are a young man, less than a year on the forum and already undertake to speak on behalf of "almost all serious people of the forum" and insult opponents. Do you also consider yourself serious? Conduct research and if almost all serious people on the forum think that I am a troll, then I promise you my legs will not be here anymore.

          Quote: Anton Karpenko

          As for both Israeli and NATO munitions, their photographs and videos with trophies have been posted on the Web several times. So your assurances that "Israel does not help terrorists" further strengthen people in the opposite way - it helps, even as it helps.

          Well then, it won't be difficult for you to present it to us? And then, apart from Lau of Israeli production, noodles, but the "truck" donated to Tsadal, they showed nothing.
          1. Anton Karpenko
            0
            27 May 2013 10: 22
            I do not consider it necessary to prove anything to the troll. The troll is not an insult, but a constant fact. Serious people are, for example, some of the moderators, and many old-timers with a much higher rating than you, and therefore, are much more respected by members of the forum than you. Your rating was recently minus, then - I watched - it jumped up in plus literally overnight, it speaks of someone's machinations with your rating - serious people do not do this, so do not rush to rank yourself among them. Even if the rating does not bother you - it shows the attitude of other people towards you, a smart and respected interlocutor can always be seen by pluses - who are you? If I call you a petty provocateur, you will be offended, so for me you are not a petty provocateur, but an elderly frivolous uncle from Israel, trolling others - this is my opinion, composed of viewing a couple of pages of your flood, and the opinion, I repeat, of other people. much more serious than me - which is immediately evident from their rating.


            "
            Well then, it won't be difficult for you to present it to us? "
            - not make up. But why? I do not need to convince you of anything, you are too fanatical, and you perceive any evidence against Israel with hostility, without bringing any evidence to your own statements. For instance:
            Well, as for the air shocks, these are again the Israelis who claimed to have attacked the weapons depots for Hezbollah, but did not give ANY evidence.
            Do not you think that under this pretext you can attack the entire Syrian army - all their tanks, self-propelled guns, rocket launchers, etc. and so on - what if that box with cartridges or that platoon of soldiers "is intended for Hezbollah," but, dear representative states - an air shaker?
            - Provide evidence that the fact that your planes were bombed in Damascus and not far from the Lebanese border was intended for Hezbollah, then we'll talk. And then you somehow sharply reacted to the truthful, in our opinion, statement that you are a troll, and yourself, like a real troll, DID NOT give ANY evidence that something was intended to Hezbollah in your return post, and still want you to proved something ???

            P.S. By the way, I read your comments and articles on military equipment - they are magnificent, especially those that you translated. You can see a deep knowledge of the materiel. I dare to express an opinion - write only about technology, do not meddle in politics, and quickly regain the former respect of the members of the forum. And if the opinion of members of the forum is not interesting to you, then why are you offended that they consider you a troll?
            1. 0
              27 May 2013 12: 06
              Quote: Anton Karpenko
              Serious people are, for example, some of the moderators, and many old-timers with a much higher rating than yours, and therefore, are much more respected by members of the forum than you

              Serious people to whom you are not a youth do not pay attention to the rating. These epaulets are made for shkolota and pioneers in the lightning.

              Quote: Anton Karpenko
              But why?

              That would not be known as yap.

              Quote: Anton Karpenko
              As for both Israeli and NATO ammunition, their photos and videos with trophies were repeatedly posted on the Web.

              So sir, where is the famous Israeli weapon of the rebels in Syria? wink

              Quote: Anton Karpenko
              I dare to express an opinion - write only about technology, do not meddle in politics, and quickly regain the former respect of forum users

              Do not tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go. bully
              1. Anton Karpenko
                0
                28 May 2013 10: 31
                Serious people to whom you are not a youth do not pay attention to the rating.
                - this is just your UNSUPPROVED statement, moreover, it is unfounded. And I declare that the rating is evidence of the attitude of members of the forum towards a person. You can be respected somewhere in your synagogue, say, or at a meeting of anonymous alcoholics - but not in this forum. I am not a person with authority on this forum - but I do not seek to earn it HERE. So you, too, do not enjoy the respect of those present, and also reject the obvious ...

                That would not be known as yap.
                - So, Israel, which did not provide evidence that the weapons for the bombed objects in Damascus were intended for Hezbollah, WATER? You make me happy.


                So sir, where is the famous Israeli weapon of the rebels in Syria?
                - sir, I saw the photo myself. And read articles ON THIS forum (then not yet registered on it), with photos of ISRAELI ammunition in Syria. Then someone else, with Einstein's photo on the Ave, furiously claimed that these ammunition was "brought to Syria from Lebanon from Israeli bases plundered by Hezbollah." I will not rummage through the comments and your flood, after I know that this ammunition was in Syria, you know that, but whether you admit it publicly or not, I don't care about the opinion of frivolous people, so sorry. Just one goodbye question - how could a weapon from Lebanon that ended up in the hands of Hezbollah, an ally of Syria and Assad, could end up in the hands of the bandits against whom this Hezbollah is fighting? A problem in your position ...

                And - the question remains about the evidence that the contents of the objects bombed in Damascus were intended for Hezbollah. This is my third post, directly and indirectly, I ask you for proof of this statement of Israel - and in response you turn the conversation to other questions (by the way, another sign of a troll). I hope you can prove that Israel is not "Unproven yap".
                Sincerely, A. Karpenko.
  33. xado.tj
    0
    26 May 2013 11: 42
    I THINK THAT THIS IS NOT HERE. THAT OUR MEDIA DOES NOT AGREE. VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH IS FAR AWAY NOT A STUPID MAN. AND SYRIA FOR WHY MYSTERIOUSLY SILENT. GIVE EVERYTHING ALREADY. SYRIA.
  34. Katsin
    -3
    26 May 2013 11: 54
    Quote: Earnest
    Toit, Katsin, I respect your patriotism, but what to do with the insanity of your allies - to sweep away Mubarak, Assad and the like, to pull the Muslim brothers to your borders? Perhaps it is better to let the dictators sit around than the Salafis will catch up? IMHO, of course, but I like the Chinese Communist Party in the neighbors more than the Taliban and other fruits of amerocracy.



    I agree with you, but the Americans have already begun to understand something about the Middle East. Contrary to the point of view adopted at the forum, the Americans do not supply weapons to the rebels, because they understand who will get it ... It's a pity that Mubarak can't be returned .. And I really don't know who is worse for us: "Damascus butcher" or " rebels "... Both are worse :-) I wish both sides success ...
  35. Ruslan_F38
    +1
    26 May 2013 11: 54
    "The British who killed more than half the world for money" - as it is precisely written! Democrats seem to be, but in fact, deadly killers.
    "As it turns out, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) visit the Golan Heights frequently and bring weapons there." - Well, Israel is in its repertoire, the essence of the deceit is not going anywhere, you cannot hide - all the skeletons will slowly climb out onto the road.
    1. Katsin
      -3
      26 May 2013 12: 01
      The Golan Heights are part of Israel, our troops are stationed there, and they bring ammunition to them, we have no interest in helping the "rebels" or "Damascus butcher"
      1. RUSSIA 2013
        +2
        26 May 2013 15: 02
        Quote: Katsin
        The Golan Heights are part of Israel, our troops are stationed there, and they bring ammunition to them, we have no interest in helping the "rebels" or "Damascus butcher"

        this is how long since the Golan Heights became part of Israel, as far as I know this part of Syria, which is under Israeli occupation. As well as part of the Palestinian territories. As for the Lady’s butcher, as you say, Assad God help him in the fight against terrorists, under him, Syria before the war was a secular state with a high standard of living, both Christians and Muslims lived there peacefully. So, if God forbid, the Islamists come to power, Israel will certainly not be comfortable.
        1. -1
          26 May 2013 15: 54
          Quote: RUSSIA 2013
          this is from when the Golan Heights became part of Israel

          Exactly since then. when the Kuril Islands became part of the USSR.
          1. RUSSIA 2013
            +1
            26 May 2013 17: 49
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: RUSSIA 2013
            this is from when the Golan Heights became part of Israel

            Exactly since then. when the Kuril Islands became part of the USSR.

            Well then, inform, at the expense of the Palestinian territories. And at the expense of the Kuril Islands, the USSR did not wage a war of aggression against Japan, and Japan encroached on the sovereignty of a number of south-eastern countries, and held a million-strong army in Manchuria and strongly supported and supported fascist Germany. And after the defeat, it lost part of its territory in the form of the southern Kuril Islands. And Israel is ruining how you got the Golan, and enlighten a large part of Palestine.
            1. -1
              26 May 2013 18: 26
              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              Well then inform, at the expense of the Palestinian territories

              First, figure out what territories are (and here the Golan is not clear)


              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              USSR did not wage a war of aggression against Japan

              Israel did not attack Syria
              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              and Japan encroached on the sovereignty of a number of southeastern countries, and held a million-strong army in Manchuria

              And what from this ?

              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              and strongly supported and supported fascist Germany.

              And Syria just attacked us, and more than once
              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              And after the defeat, it lost part of its territories in the form of the southern Kuril Islands

              Like Kuak Syria, attacked. was defeated, lost the Golan - what's wrong?

              Quote: RUSSIA 2013
              .And Israel, how you got the Golan, and a large part of Palestine, enlighten.

              In the same way, they attacked, (1967), We defeated them, they lost territory. Syria - Golan, Jordan - Jerusalem and the West Bank, Egypt - Sinai and Gaza. (Note the Palestinian state, autonomy or something like that then was not) All these territories belonged to specific states. It was only later that they invented all this (so as not to fight by themselves) and invented the myth of some kind of state-ve, which was not there.
              Learn the story.
              So what is the difference between the Kuril Islands and the Golan? laughing
              1. +1
                26 May 2013 18: 33
                Quote: atalef
                We defeated them, they lost territory. Syria - Golan

                Stop, isn’t there a war between Israel and Syria?
                Syria, how did Japan sign the act of unconditional surrender?
                Do not mislead the people.

                Quote: atalef
                So what is the difference between the Kuril Islands and the Golan?

                The fact that the Kuril Islands are annexed as a result of the war, and the Golan is occupied and formally belong to Syria. You didn't defeat them, did you?
                1. 0
                  26 May 2013 19: 23
                  Quote: Spade
                  Stop, isn’t there a war between Israel and Syria?
                  Syria, how did Japan sign the act of unconditional surrender?
                  Do not mislead people

                  Yes? When signing the act of surrender, Japan recognized the right of the USSR not the Kuril Islands? Or how. Maybe, according to the conditions of Surrender, they went to the USSR? Or maybe there is a peace treaty between the USSR \ Russia and Japan? Maybe Japan capitulated specifically to the USSR - no, to the allied forces (9 countries, including Holland, Australia and China) Nowhere in the act surrender or any decision (Potsdamkie) does not spell the sovereignty of the USSR over the South Kuril Islands .. The Japanese consider them occupied, and you?
                  Quote: Spade
                  Do not mislead the people.

                  Here I am about that. Either recognize the Kuril Islands occupied or sit and sniff in two holes.

                  Quote: Spade
                  The fact that the Kuril Islands are annexed as a result of the war, and the Golan is occupied and formally belong to Syria

                  Golan annexed as a result of the war. and the Kuril Islands are occupied and belong to Japan.
                  Do not make me laugh, Lopatin, sort out the history.

                  Quote: Spade
                  You didn't defeat them, did you?

                  author burns laughing
                  Then you did not defeat Georgia. Or was there an act of surrender? And South Ossetia and Abkhazia are occupied Georgian territories. How about this?
                  1. 0
                    26 May 2013 19: 55
                    Quote: atalef
                    Yes? When signing the act of surrender, did Japan recognize the right of the USSR not to the Kuril Islands?

                    She recognized the right of the winners to decide their future fate. Even her only condition, to maintain imperial power, was rejected. This is unconditional surrender.

                    Quote: atalef
                    Maybe under the terms of surrender, they moved to the USSR?

                    Conditions for unconditional surrender? Original.
                    Do you understand the meaning of this phrase?

                    Quote: atalef
                    Here I am about that. Either recognize the Kuril Islands occupied or sit and sniff in two holes.

                    Why recognize the annexed territories as occupied? Your argumentation is weak.

                    Quote: atalef
                    Golan annexed as a result of the war. and the Kuril Islands are occupied and belong to Japan.

                    What war results? Damn, you and your colleagues have already buzzed all your ears about the fact that Israel is at war with Syria. Hundreds of times this has been declared by yours.
                    And a minimum of brains is enough to understand- unfinished war has no results.
                    So the Golan is occupied, which is recognized by the international community - UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981.

                    Quote: atalef
                    Then you did not defeat Georgia.

                    No. We defended the states of South Ossetia and Abkhazia
                    1. -1
                      26 May 2013 21: 02
                      Quote: Spade
                      She recognized the right of the winners to decide their future fate.

                      Did you come up with it now?
                      By the way, even if in relation to the decision of fate. those. could each country grab onto itself what was wanted or should it have been fixed by some kind of agreement? Japan did not capitulate to the USSR, but to the allied forces led by the USA (They accepted surrender). So that without fairy tales.
                      Quote: Spade
                      Unconditional surrender conditions? Original.
                      Do you understand the meaning of this phrase?

                      Of course. there are conditions for everything
                      Quote: Spade
                      Why recognize the annexed territories as occupied? Your argumentation is weak.

                      Of course. Israel annexed the Golan (by a law of eighty years, I don’t remember 0 And we have no questions about this. Syria (like Japan) do not agree. Similar situations laughing

                      Quote: Spade
                      What war results? Damn, you and your colleagues have already buzzed all your ears about the fact that Israel is at war with Syria

                      And Yapov and Russia have no lair, and so what? Somehow you are interesting, the war between Syria and Israel was, but there are no results. So, Syria attacked Israel, was defeated, lost its territories, and whether they admit it or not, sneeze.

                      Quote: Spade
                      unfinished war has no results.

                      ?????????
                      It's like a joke, there is an ass, but no words fool
                      Quote: Spade
                      So the Golan is occupied, which is recognized by the international community - UN Security Council Resolution No. 497 of December 17, 1981

                      And? Recall a few decisions Gene. UN assemblies on Syria (against Russia), troop entry into Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia, etc.
                      Spit and grind.
                      Quote: Spade
                      No. We defended the states of South Ossetia and Abkhazia

                      There were no such states, and so no one (except Russia. And a few more offensive and dwarf states did not recognize). But the closest allies of Russia, like Belarus and Kazakhstan, did not recognize that either. Why do you think.
                      1. 0
                        26 May 2013 21: 26
                        Quote: atalef
                        So what is the difference between the Kuril Islands and the Golan?

                        I have to disagree with you. The difference is huge. It is necessary to compare not the Kuril Islands and the Golan, but the Golan and the territories of Russia, which were under the Mongol-Tatar yoke and conquered back by the Russians. In both cases, we are dealing with ancestral territories temporarily (a couple of hundred years) under the occupation of nomadic conquerors.
                      2. 0
                        26 May 2013 21: 37
                        Quote: atalef
                        Did you come up with it now?

                        God forbid, I'm not so cool as to appropriate the merits of T. Roosevelt. This is his idea. 1943 year.
                        Unconditional surrender - the universal cessation of hostilities, the disarmament and surrender of all the armed forces of a capitulating state without any conditions whatsoever. The state is deprived of sovereignty, its territory is occupied (the borders and territory of the state can be changed by the will of the winner), the supreme power is exercised by specially appointed persons on behalf of the victorious state (coalition of states).
                        Winners (winner) determine the future political settlement, work out specific sanctions, types and forms of political and material responsibility of the defeated state, and decide on the criminal prosecution of the main war criminals. A defeated state does not have the right to reject or not fulfill the conditions of unconditional surrender either at the time of surrender or after it.


                        Quote: atalef
                        And Yapov and Russia have no lair

                        Why not? There is. The act of unconditional surrender.

                        Quote: atalef
                        Somehow you are interesting, the war between Syria and Israel was, but there are no results. So, Syria attacked Israel, was defeated, lost its territories, and whether they admit it or not, sneeze.

                        It is you and your colleagues who are interesting.
                        Since still you can not answer a simple question: Is the war between Israel and Syria over or not?
                        And how the question comes about attacks on the territory of this state, then you are at war with them, but as for the Golan, you don’t immediately.

                        You yourself don’t understand that it’s a complete game to declare that you annexed someone’s lands before the end of the war. This is not just a play on words, it is very important: the provisions of the Geneva Convention on the Protection of Civilian Populations apply in the occupied territories. On the annexed, no.

                        Quote: atalef
                        And? Recall a few decisions Gene. UN assemblies on Syria (against Russia), troop entry into Afghanistan, Czechoslovakia, etc.

                        Remind. Just not decisions Gen. Assembly, and Security Council Resolutions. After all, the former, unlike the latter, are not binding.
                        By the way, even the Americans recognize the Golan as occupied - the resolution was adopted unanimously.


                        Quote: atalef
                        There were no such states, and so no one (except Russia. And a few more offensive and dwarf states did not recognize). But the closest allies of Russia, like Belarus and Kazakhstan, did not recognize that either.

                        It is after the war that they became states. And before that, they were parties to the conflict. Which even Georgia recognized. We protected them from violating the Sochi Accords of Georgia.
      2. Anton Karpenko
        +2
        26 May 2013 15: 34
        Katsin - Golan Heights - is the territory of Syria temporarily occupied by Israel. But why did your car cross the border of the demilitarized zone?
        1. +1
          26 May 2013 15: 58
          Quote: Anton Karpenko
          . But why did your car cross the border of the demilitarized zone

          This jeep? He has a sticker on passing those inspections in 2000. The IDF left Lebanon in 2001. Most likely this jeep (Sufa 1) produced in my opinion until 2003 was thrown there. We already heard about a downed plane. Israeli instructors, now dragged a jeep from Lebanon. People hawala.
          If they were supplied, then they probably would have found some kind of transport without identification marks. fool
  36. +2
    26 May 2013 14: 00
    This is how the sad sons of Zion, with universal grief in their eyes, for all the suffering of mankind, think one thing, promise the second and do the third. They always live according to the precepts of the two-faced Janus. And their territories are "legal", and all kinds of "Al Qaeda" help, there were rumors that they were noted by the instructors of spirits in Afghanistan. From the very beginning, this state "divides and rules". I never treated Jews with prejudice, even welcomed their intelligence, enterprise, cunning, but the more I hear, I see, the more they cause me to be wary. And after they went to Afghanistan, seeing what they were doing in BV, alienation appeared or something. But if the Arabs unite (unlikely), they will lose everything and run to their patron of the United States, since there are many of them, and all the rich. But they will drink a lot of blood on BV.
  37. +1
    26 May 2013 19: 52
    Is Israel helping the Satanites?
    Who would doubt that.
    The time will come and the Zionists will be equated with the Nazis, with subsequent measures.
  38. 0
    19 June 2013 17: 23
    As for America, writes The Washington Times columnist Danny De Gracia, interfering in the internal affairs of other states, it creates a dangerous precedent. “Suppose America invades Syria under the pretext that Assad has crossed the red line. It turns out that when - if not - the US economy collapses, the precedent created by this "humanitarian" intervention will allow Russia or China to declare that the United States is in a state of chaos and ask the UN for permission to introduce an unmanned zone over American land? What then will prevent Russia and China from declaring that the US has crossed the red line in relation to its citizens? ”De Garcia asks.

    Columnist is sure that when they see Russian T-80 tanks with the United Nations acronym “arriving in the United States for humanitarian aid” on the streets of New York or Los Angeles, most Americans will think of a military invasion and violation of international law. But this is exactly what Washington does in the countries of Africa and the Middle East, De Garcia notes and calls such an attitude “double morality”.

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