What's up with Russian long-range aviation?

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What's up with Russian long-range aviation?

Naturally, after another incident near Irkutsk (and this isn't the first) involving a Tu-22M long-range bomber, this aircraft has naturally attracted some attention. This is especially true since this is the third Tu-22M crash at the Belaya airbase in the Irkutsk region since 2022. And the causes of the crash are the same: engine(s) failure.


Let's take a look at the Tu-22M loss statistics that the other side is providing. This is interesting for several reasons, the most important of which is being voiced in the West today: Russia's long-range aviation has suffered such losses since the beginning of the air defense that it, YES, can no longer be considered a full-fledged form of the Aerospace Forces and, accordingly, it poses absolutely no threat to anyone.



According to Western data, the list of Tu-22M losses looks like this:
- December 2022, 3 Tu-22M3 were damaged at the Dyagilevo airbase;
- August 2023, one Tu-22M3 was destroyed and two more were damaged at the Soltsy airbase;
- April 2024, Tu-22M crashed in Stavropol Krai while returning to base;
- July 2024, 2 Tu-22M3 were damaged at the Olenya airbase;
- August 2024, Tu-22M crashed in the Irkutsk region;
- April 2025, Tu-22M crashed in the Irkutsk region;
- June 2025, as a result of Operation Spider Web, 12 Tu-22M3s were destroyed at the Olenya, Belaya and Dyagilevo airbases;
- June 2026, Tu-22M3 crashed in the Irkutsk region.

The list is, of course, debatable; there's nothing to be said. Three Tu-22Ms damaged at Dyagilevo don't equal three destroyed. While some of the more rabid believe (and the more rabid, the more peculiar their beliefs, there are some) that a total of 24 Tu-22M3s have been destroyed or damaged since 2022, that doesn't prove anything.

Defense believes that "Tu-22 production in any modification ceased in Russia in 1993, and there are still no plans for a replacement, even in the near future. Therefore, spare parts are extremely limited, so even minor damage could lead to the write-off of the entire Tu-22M3."

This is, of course, more of a pipe dream. Almost five hundred Tu-22Ms were produced, so even if we assume that only about 10% of the original number remain in service, spare parts were readily available. Furthermore, as practice has shown, Kazan's warehouses are capable of building Tu-160s from Soviet-era components. But that's just theory; in practice, things are a bit more bleak.

It is possible, of course, that some wear and tear on the aircraft may occur, but comparing the Tu-22M with truly long-lived aircraft like the B-52 and Tu-95 is somehow inappropriate, because the youngest Tu-22M is “only” 43 years old, which is in no way comparable to these strategic monsters.


In short, let's leave it at that: we have no data on the inventory in KAPO's warehouses, and they have no evidence that the warehouses are empty. Let's assume the truth lies somewhere in the middle: spare parts are available; it's just a matter of quantity and quality. Otherwise, the Tupolevs would simply stop flying, which, admittedly, isn't happening.

Then we have real losses. Of course, for the other side it's very pleasant to say that there are no spare parts, there's nowhere to get them from, because UAV hits the wing and the plane is scrapped because it cannot be repaired.

Well, that's the ideal. In reality, the wings are repaired, taken from previously decommissioned aircraft, and so on. If there's one thing we can do, it's to tinker with things so well that the result is just as good as the factory's.

So, let's take the initial figure of 24 aircraft and start to think about it a bit. Yes, considering that the Aerospace Forces have about 50 Tu-22M aircraft in total, 24 is a terrifying figure, indicating that half of our Long-Range Aviation is all we have.

Three damaged Tu-22Ms in Dyagilevo in December 2022. A daring raid, but the UAVs of that time are no match for today's, so it's not worth taking seriously the claims that these aircraft will never return to service. Yes, they did hit the wings, but somehow there's a strong belief that all of these were repairable, mainly due to the frankly weak warheads of the Ukrainian drones. So, we're not counting them.

August 2023, Novgorod Oblast, Soltsy Air Base. The supposed "one Tu-22M3 destroyed and two more damaged" seems easy to write, as the sabotage group that launched the drone couldn't possibly have destroyed three aircraft with a single craft. Damaging one before it was written off due to a fire—yes, that's believable, especially since the Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed the damage. But three... Let's count one aircraft, especially since it all seems plausible.


In April 2024, a Tu-22M crashed in the Stavropol region while returning to base. Ukrainian media rushed to tell the world they had shot it down. rocket S-200 SAM system. Okay, so the A-50 was shot down over the Sea of ​​Azov near Crimea, and it was believable because the probable range there was 170-190 km. The Krasnogvardeisky District of Stavropol Krai is at least 400 km away, no matter what the scenario, and that's not a distance for the S-300 missiles. The 5V28M could fly about 300, but that's still not enough. So, they lied, it was for a technical reason, but yes, the plane was lost.

In July 2024, two Tu-22M3s were damaged in an attack on the Olenya Air Base in the Murmansk Region. There was no confirmation from the Russian Ministry of Defense, but there was video evidence from surveillance cameras. drones This can't be taken as 100% certain, as will be discussed below. So, it's impossible to claim that the planes were actually damaged.

In August 2024, a Tu-22M crashed in the Irkutsk region. The loss is undeniable.

April 2025, Tu-22M crashed in the Irkutsk region.

June 2025, Operation "Spiderweb." The Olenya, Belaya, and Dyagilevo airbases were attacked. According to the Ukrainian side, 12 Tu-22M3s were destroyed and at least 10 damaged at the three bases.


Here, where the greatest losses are on paper, things are very complicated. Even the Americans and British, analyzing the undoubtedly successful and impressively complex operation, noted that the Ukrainian drones misfired numerous times. That is, the drone actually landed on the plane, but there was no confirmation of fire, debris, and so on.

Therefore, the data varies depending on who compiled it.

On June 3, the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces announced the destruction of 41 Russian aircraft during the attacks on June 1. This is one extreme.
Pro-government Russian Telegram channels estimated losses at four Tu-95s, five Tu-22M3s, and one An-12. Let's take these figures as the second pole; the Russian Ministry of Defense, naturally, didn't surprise anyone with these figures.


And the analysis by the British International Institute for Strategic Studies could be taken as the middle ground, that is, as what could be called an independent assessment. It's an old organization, and it doesn't like us very much, but they know how to count; we've used their data more than once when calculating air losses on both sides. It's very close to the truth, confirmed.

An employee of this organization, Joseph Dempsey, published an analysis of satellite images from Planet Labs, Maxar, and SBU video recordings, according to which the confirmed losses of Russian aviation amounted to four destroyed and two damaged Tu-22M3.

Dempsey's data is fully consistent with the assessment of NBC News military experts: three Tu-22Ms at the Belaya airbase and one at the Olenya airbase. Both sides agreed that video evidence is missing for approximately 15 impacts.

Total: 4 aircraft.

June 2026, Tu-22M3 crashed in the Irkutsk region.


So what's the bottom line? Looking beyond the Ukrainian lens, out of the 24 destroyed Tu-22Ms, only nine remain. And yes, some of the aircraft are undergoing long-term, or even very long, repairs. Perhaps there are more than five, perhaps not.

Moreover, the Aerospace Forces lost four aircraft in accidents due to technical reasons, and five to enemy action. Overall, the situation is dire, because when you lose almost as many to your own forces as to the enemy, it's a very, very serious matter. Especially considering that all four accidents were apparently caused by engine failures.

There have been numerous reports that the NK-25 engines powering the Tu-22M are experiencing a severe shortage of spare parts, which cannot be replenished due to a lack of production. Engine production took place at the Kuibyshev Engine Plant (Kuibyshev NPO Trud) from 1977 to 1996, after which the assembly tooling was dismantled and scrapped as unnecessary.

And in general, there's some truth to those who said that a damaged Tu-22M is practically destroyed. It depends on where the damage is.

How deadly is it for Long-Range Aviation?


As of February 2025, The Military Balance estimates that the Russian Aerospace Forces had 55 Tu-22M3 bombers in service. This is consistent with our own data. Since then, the Aerospace Forces have lost another six of these aircraft destroyed and up to four damaged in crashes and attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

This means that the Russian Aerospace Forces may only have 45 Tu-22M3 bombers remaining in service. However, it's worth noting that some of these are currently inoperable, undergoing repairs, and some may have been used as spare parts donors for others, but are still considered operational on paper.

Some foreign experts estimate the number of Tu-22M3s in combat readiness at 27-33. The remainder are undergoing various repairs following damage in an attack, routine maintenance, major overhauls, modernization, and so on.

Given this scenario, the losses inflicted by Ukrainian drones are, of course, significant—essentially 10% of the total number of bombers.

But the losses from natural wear and tear of aircraft are no less impressive.


Even if, to the great delight of the enemy, we assume that all Tu-22M3s that were destroyed on the ground as a result of Ukrainian forces' operations were in good condition, and the damaged aircraft could not be repaired, the Aerospace Forces could currently have approximately 30–35 operational bombers of this type.

Whether this is a lot or a little is a difficult question. It's not numbers that make war, but people and equipment. For people and aircraft to fight effectively, many things are needed, first and foremost, the ability to maintain combat-ready equipment.

Forty years isn't that long for a bomber. The question isn't the number of years, but the amount of money and spare parts spent on a particular aircraft over those 40 years. The accidents and disasters that occur with enviable regularity with the Tu-22M indicate that not all is as good as hoped. The situation with engines is particularly distressing, as it's unlikely that a completely destroyed production facility will be revived, as happened in Kazan.

In reality, drones and special forces from the other side aren't as scary as they make out. For every special forces force, there's a counterforce; drones are shot down, and aircraft are hidden in shelters and hangars, if they exist. In other words, some resistance can be put in place, and it is being put in place.

It's hard to say what can be done against engines that have no power and, worst of all, will never have any. Flying on willpower is not an option; technology doesn't understand the word "necessary." Since 2022, five aircraft accidents and crashes have claimed the lives of six people. That's an unacceptable number.

The saddest thing is that there's absolutely nothing to look forward to: the PAK DA project was canceled, or rather, Putin ordered it canceled, without much explanation. Apparently, things are really bad there, though our aviation industry hasn't had much success in a long time.

So, what's with Russia's Long-Range Aviation, as the title suggested? It's alive. It operates to the best of its ability and according to orders, and it's effective. But the fact is that the Russian Aerospace Forces' Long-Range Aviation is practically wearing out its last Soviet-era aircraft. Of the 500 Tu-22Ms of all variants, only one-tenth of the original number remains. There won't be any new ones; there's simply nothing left to assemble them from.

They say there is a fairly large backlog of fuselages, which would allow for the assembly of a number of new aircraft, as happened with the Tu-160, but the question of engines...

The issue of aircraft engines has been a curse, from the first Soviet aircraft to the present day. But it must be addressed, because without engines, long-range aviation won't just cease to be long-range—it will cease to exist.
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  1. + 21
    21 June 2026 06: 08
    What did you expect? The plane is old, it hasn't seen a proper, full-fledged overhaul, even after visiting the original plant that manufactured it. Components and assemblies are sent off for repairs to who knows where and are repaired in an unknown manner, with no regard for the product's service life, as stipulated in the datasheet.
    1. + 18
      21 June 2026 06: 52
      Add to this the pilots' low flight hours and the poor training of the technical staff, and it's not slander. A pilot is a professional when he flies regularly.
      1. + 45
        21 June 2026 07: 54
        It seems time to consider whether we can afford and whether we need long-range aviation, at its cost, just to launch cruise missiles from aircraft. The nuclear triad certainly sounds appealing, but in reality, would its participation in a major war be feasible and have much effect? ​​Will it (the aviation) be allowed to fire, or will it be destroyed before it gets airborne and reaches the attack line?
        As a former submariner, I have similar questions even about nuclear submarines, and especially Poseidon carriers. A pair of such submarines will always be in the enemy's sights, and it's unlikely they'll be given the chance to launch all six Poseidons. And I still don't understand why a nuclear submarine is required to launch a Poseidon. If the craft has an unlimited range and is so "smart," then you can launch it from any harbor or surface vessel; you don't even need a torpedo tube... just launch it and let it sail wherever it's programmed.
        1. -4
          21 June 2026 08: 43
          Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
          Do we need long-range aviation with its cost just to launch cruise missiles from an aircraft?
          In case of political tension in the world, such machines can hang in the air for hours, changing their location and waiting for a command to
          launch, causing headaches for the enemy's general staff. The same applies to submarines
          1. +8
            21 June 2026 11: 17
            What's stopping a modern fighter from shooting them down if the enemy actually intends to fight? In my humble opinion, strategic bombers are very vulnerable equipment, given the cost of maintaining them.
          2. +8
            21 June 2026 15: 30
            Yes, Oleg, I know that and take it into account. But when I compare the cost of a long-range bomber and all the costs of its maintenance in peacetime, including the crew, with the cost of a good MIRVed missile on a mobile platform (a car or a train), I realize the difference is significant. Especially considering the aircraft's vulnerability in this comparison.
            I even remember from my own conscription on a submarine-launched ballistic missile submarine that our commanders would tell us frankly and openly during our missions: "The main thing is to have time to fire, and then almost certainly be destroyed." But we at least hoped to have time to fire and die proudly, knowing our mission had been accomplished... But with aircraft, it's much more difficult when a couple of enemy fighters will latch onto you and stalk you the entire route, keeping their sights on you. Which is essentially what happens every time in peacetime. And then you're left circling over your own territory, which is a completely different scenario. request
          3. +1
            22 June 2026 00: 26
            Quote: Schneeberg
            In case of political tension in the world, such machines can hang in the air for hours, changing their location and waiting for a command to
            launch, causing headaches in the enemy general staffs.

            It is of course.
            But since 1980, the number of enemies has not decreased, but increased (Poland, Finland, ....)
            And at that time there was a shortage of strategic aviation.
            The author speaks of a 10-fold reduction in the number of TU-22M.
            And what good are they anyway???
          4. -2
            22 June 2026 07: 23
            Such machines can hang in the air for hours
            You're talking about strategic helicopters. Planes can't hover. request
          5. 0
            28 June 2026 23: 19
            I'm shocked !!!
            For completely adequate comments there were as many as 3 (three) MORONS - MINUSATORS.
            I don't want to stay on such an INFO-DUMP for even a second...
        2. +3
          21 June 2026 15: 08
          Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
          It seems time to consider whether we can afford and whether we need long-range aviation, with its cost, just to launch cruise missiles from aircraft. The nuclear triad certainly sounds appealing, but in reality, would its participation in a major war be feasible or have much effect?
          You are confusing long-range aviation and strategic aviation.
          1. +4
            21 June 2026 15: 40
            You are confusing long-range aviation and strategic aviation.

            Frankly, I don't see much of a difference. "Airplanes are good, but deer (missiles) are better," as Kola Beldy sang. But I admit that there are specialists in the Russian Ministry of Defense much smarter than me, and they know better what and how much the country needs in a future global war with the West. But somehow, I think focusing on manned aviation will be the last option.
            1. +3
              22 June 2026 17: 37
              The mission of Long-Range/Strategic Aviation is to deliver cruise missiles (cruises) to the launch site outside the range of enemy air defense and aircraft carriers. This is precisely why, in the late USSR and Russia, cruise missiles were designed with the maximum possible range. The Kh-101 has a range of 5500 km with a nuclear warhead, while the new cruise missile BD for the Tu-160M2 has a range of 7500 km (Shoigu demonstrated it to Yn and then announced its characteristics). So, such cruise missiles can even be launched from their own airspace. But they still need to be delivered to the launch site.
              The DA as part of the strategic nuclear forces is an auxiliary component for a second or even third strike (depending on the time it takes to reach the target), but at the same time it is the most flexible, especially for military conflicts of medium intensity, including those involving non-nuclear weapons.

              Regarding the state of the Tu-22M3 fleet, before the start of the Air Defense Forces, the Aerospace Forces had (if my memory serves me right, and it might be off by one or two units) 63 of these aircraft. And it's likely that only half of them were in full combat readiness. Anything more is pure fantasy. The aircraft are frankly old and worn out; they don't have a simple Tu-95 airframe (the current ones are about the same age as the Tu-22M3); the Backfire has a variable-sweep wing (a complex mechanization system that's very difficult to maintain and wears out faster), and afterburning engines whose service life is running out, if not exhausted. The NK-25 is no longer in stock; previously, they used old stock, including those from previously decommissioned aircraft. An attempt to replace them with NK-32Ms during modernization was ultimately deemed extremely difficult and irrational (the aircraft's airframes have too long a lifespan, and they were poorly or not maintained at all in the 90s and 00s). They (the remaining ones) have a combined lifespan of at most 5-7 years, maybe even 10 years for some. And the already small fleet will continue to shrink due to natural causes.

              The Su-34M2, with a slightly larger airframe and Izdeliye-177 or even AL-51F-1 engines, could serve as the initial MPA aircraft, carrying the airborne version of the Zircon (plus RVV) with a combat radius of approximately 2500 km. Such an aircraft could be produced relatively quickly and easily by the mid-30s. The same aircraft could also serve as a "Eurostrategic" bomber, carrying the Kinzhal, Zircon, and a host of other anti-aircraft missiles for the European (and other) theater of operations.
              1. +1
                23 June 2026 07: 06
                Bayard, thanks for your comment! Once again, you're interesting and thought-provoking.
                I remember the Kh-101's range and understand that such missiles are no longer intended for striking the US territory (maybe Alaska), but rather Europe or carrier-carrying groups. While ballistics, especially hypersonic ones, are more effective against a carrier-carrying group, for striking carrier-carrying groups, a cruise missile with space-based targeting is probably the most suitable option. Here, the aircraft becomes more agile than any submarine with cruise missiles, acquiring target acquisition and firing at it more quickly.
                But there's a double-edged sword here—launch range. Aircraft won't be allowed to approach close to the carrier-carrying group, meaning the cruise missile's approach time is longer and easier to detect and shoot down. They say, after all, that to destroy a carrier-carrying group, you have to manage to hit it with a dozen cruise missiles simultaneously, preferably from different angles, overloading its missile defenses. A submarine has a slight advantage in this regard; it can get closer, critically reducing the time to repel its attack.
                And I, if age permits, will be interested to see the future of our long-range/strategic aviation... I have no doubt that the US will continue to develop it as the highest priority for its goals and objectives as a global hegemon. Here, aviation is the most effective weapon, as confirmed by all the recent wars waged by the US and Israel. But whether we can afford this terribly expensive burden, and whether it is necessary to do so at the expense of other means of destruction, is something I doubt.
                But I repeat, there are people in the government far smarter and more insightful than me. They will decide what we should do with this air force and how much... request .
                1. +1
                  23 June 2026 09: 28
                  Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                  I remember the range of the Kh-101 and understand that such missiles are no longer used to strike US territory (maybe Alaska), but rather Europe or the AUG.

                  The Kh-101 is certainly a good second strike weapon against Europe (first strikes with ballistics and hypersonic weapons against all key targets, including airfields), especially with new physical packages and nuclear warheads with yields ranging from 500 kt (200 kg) to 2 mt (400 kg). But the 5500 km range allows these cruise missiles to be used against almost all of the US territory – from the North Pole, as well as the entire West Coast of the US from the Chukotka Peninsula. But the new BD cruise missile (7500 km) can be used to launch such strikes from Russian airspace in the Arctic. Moreover, these cruise missiles can be carried by older bombers without any stealth technology, such as the Tu-95... or even the Il-76, suspended on pylons or dropped through the rear "door." So the old Tu-95SMs can continue to serve fruitfully for a long time.
                  As for using the Kh-101 against AUGs and other surface targets, as far as I know, this was never planned. US naval units have very good air defense and air cover, and subsonic cruise missiles (with AWACS) are not at all a difficult or dangerous target for them.
                  But for enemy carrier-carrying groups and other NATO ships, there's another intriguing prospect: the Su-57 and S-70 Okhotnik (which have the same weapons bay capacity as the Su-57, only they're arranged transversely rather than longitudinally). Thanks to their low radar signature, they can approach the launch range of their antiaircraft missiles in full radar stealth mode and deploy their weapons, which would be very difficult/almost/practically impossible to defend against. The fact is that they are armed with missiles such as the Kh-69 (stealth, can be equipped with an anti-ship missile seeker and an optical channel with target image/image memory), the Kh-58 with letters after the numbers (speed at the end of the acceleration phase is 5-6 Mach with a range of about 400 km.) and even ... the R-97 (a modification of the R-37M for the Su-57 weapons bay), which is currently being equipped with nuclear warheads. The conventional warheads of such missiles are certainly too small for a large ship ... but the nuclear warheads will leave their targets no chance. With the known combat radius of the Su-57 and S-70 ... this will be very serious. And not only for NATO fleets, but also for ground targets on their territories and their military bases around the world. For complete harmony, it would be necessary to modify the fuel tanker based on the S-70 and wait for the deployment of the entire constellation of Rassvet broadband communications satellites.
                  When and if we get the PAK DA (and this will not be before the middle of the next decade), it will also be able to play as an MPA and a naval reconnaissance aircraft, in addition to its main functionality.


                  Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                  They write that in order to destroy an AUG, you need to manage to hit it with a dozen cruise missiles simultaneously and preferably from different angles,

                  It all depends on the composition of the carrier strike group. If its core (carrier) is hit by a hypersonic antiship missile (two, for insurance), it will definitely not be able to repel it. The remaining escort ships will be blinded by the EMP flash from a nearby nuclear explosion and can be finished off with anything. If a Zircon is used (and it can carry a 500-kilogram nuclear warhead), the carrier will likely simply evaporate, and the escort ships can be finished off with cheap subsonic antiship missiles, or even aerial bombs or torpedoes.

                  Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                  I have my doubts about whether we can pull this terribly expensive strap and whether it is necessary to pull it hard, to the detriment of other means of destruction.

                  The future of our DA is now seen in the PAK DA (which still needs to wait for PD=26/28 engines) and probably in the construction of a series of new Tu-160M2.
                  1. +1
                    24 June 2026 08: 51
                    The X-101 is certainly good for a second strike against Europe (first strikes with ballistics and hypersonics against all key targets, including airfields).


                    I don't dispute that the Kh-101 missiles are good for any strike. My only question is, how are they any better than ground-based ballistics for a second, third, and... tenth strike against the targets you propose sending an Kh-101-equipped aircraft to?
                    What's so special about an airborne carrier that's easier to destroy and an order of magnitude more expensive to maintain in peacetime? That's what I'm talking about... just in case.
                    And he specifically gave an example of the Poseidon carrier based on the submarine, where exactly the same thing while I don't understand the point or the necessity of launching them from a submarine. Why launch all six from a single launch vehicle, which will always be under the enemy's special targeting and control? Couldn't they be stored individually, far from each other, and launched from any location along the vast sea line where they can be delivered from a warehouse, prepared (or programmed) for launch?
                    So, with an aircraft, you focus on the missile's range and the carrier's mobility... But all these factors lose out to the vulnerability of the basing sites (unique airfields with special runways) and the enemy's historical air superiority, where even a bomber in flight becomes an excellent target for destruction.
                    For some reason, our media loves to report on the banal flight of yet another Tu-95SM over neutral waters, and how foreign fighters immediately tag along for escort... We can't even afford the luxury of escorting every NATO bomber flight, and only when it approaches the very edge of territorial waters... sometimes we "train our pilots."
                    1. -1
                      24 June 2026 12: 11
                      Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                      The X-101s are good for any strike, I don't dispute that. I just wonder how they're any better than ground-based ballistics for a second, third, and... tenth strike on those targets.

                      The advantage of cruise missiles (even stealthily) lies in their flight profile and, of course, their range. Hypothetically, in the event of a full-scale conflict with NATO, the first strike against them would be disarming and decapitating. Accuracy, power, short flight time, resistance to enemy air and missile defenses, and penetrating nuclear warheads for destroying buried command posts, arsenals, command centers, and hiding places for political and military leadership, missile defense facilities, airfields, naval bases, compact troop deployment areas, and equipment storage bases are all important. This all applies to ballistics, or more precisely, to hypersonic missiles of a "pseudoballistic" or aeroballistic nature, as well as to the Tsirkon missiles launched from land- and sea-based launchers. But the second and subsequent strikes will target infrastructure—military, energy, logistics, administrative centers, and scattered troop deployment sites. And that's where cruise missiles come into play. Due to their low-altitude flight profile and long-range launch, detecting their launches, much less detecting and intercepting them, will be incredibly difficult—there's simply no one to do it. After all, all airfields are hit by ballistics in the first strike, and there's simply nowhere to launch AWACS aircraft (and without them, there's no way to attack targets in WWI) and fighters, and perhaps no one to launch them. And any remaining air defenses without external targeting will be ineffective. Furthermore, it's easier to ensure the massed nature of cruise missile strikes, and their launchers can be launched from the very depths of our territory, having first dispersed the AWACS to remote airfields, including civilian ones. Look at me launching an Kh-101 at Ukraine. From where? From the Volga region, or even over the northern Caspian Sea. And they could reach Portugal from there! Who in Portugal or France would notice launches over the Volga region or even the Urals? And their range allows them to do so. The Kh-102 (with a nuclear warhead) has a range of 5500 km.
                      That is, against high-priority targets and when maximum reaction speed and delivery of light and heat are essential, we use Iskanders, Kinzhals, Tsirkons, and ultimately Oreshniks. But when striking infrastructure, where time is of the essence and the targets are stationary, cruise missiles can be quite effective. A combined strike is always superior to a monotonous ballistic attack. Ballistic missiles are also visible from orbit and by ground-based radars from afar, because they are HIGH, which means the radar's line-of-sight range is maximum. Cruise missiles, however, are more difficult to detect, usually only from above. And for this, fighter-interceptors are usually needed. Since the second and subsequent strikes will occur under conditions of massive destruction of the enemy's air/missile defenses, airbases, and command centers by the first strike, the second and subsequent strikes will be almost or only one-sided. Moreover, cruise missiles are obviously cheaper and more compact than full-fledged IRBMs, i.e., it is possible to produce and prepare many more of them for the same money than the same Oreshniks.
                      If there's a war with the US, the X-102s will typically fly through the Arctic Circle, and that too after the initial disarming and decapitating strike. Once airfields in Alaska and Canada are already hit, as are radars, surface-to-air radars, and even satellite constellations, the enemy will have nowhere to launch fighters. And providing cover for our bombers isn't difficult either; the Su-35S, Su-30SM2, or Su-57 are perfectly capable; they can even carry drop tanks if necessary (their maximum range is specified WITHOUT drop tanks, unlike NATO fighters), and refueling can be arranged. We already have jump-off airfields and operational deployment airfields in the Arctic, including for heavy fighters. So, the YES isn't at all useless for us, even in the event of a global war. But there are some conventions: the bombers must be launched before enemy missiles hit our airfields. This means organizing services and promptly dispersing long-range missiles to alternate airfields during the threat period. And I repeat: no one else has cruise missiles with such an astonishing range today. And only we have carriers for them. Besides, the old Tu-95s are quite successful as carriers, and their archaic appearance doesn't hinder them at all. Just like the American B-52s, which are MUCH older – the youngest B-52s were built in 1962, while our Tu-95s were built in the late 80s.
                      Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                      Take the example of the Poseidon submarine-based launch vehicle, where I also don't yet understand the point or the necessity of launching them from a submarine. Why launch all six from a single launch vehicle, which will always be under special targeting and control of the enemy?

                      This is a great mystery. Perhaps a submarine should not only launch them/how many, but also collect them after their shift? Who knows. And they can be launched from any vessel equipped for this purpose, or even from a pier. But you can't abandon such a thing on the seabed after completing their deployment. This isn't just a torpedo with a 50-100 megaton nuclear warhead; it's an autonomous deep-sea vehicle for special purposes. In any case, this is a weapon for total war, in case Russia's existence/survival is at stake. Then we definitely won't give a damn about the fate of Europe and North America. And it's very good that we have something like this.
                      Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                      )programmed) form for launch?
                      So, with an aircraft, you focus on the missile's range and the carrier's mobility... But all these factors lose out to the vulnerability of the basing sites (unique airfields with special runways) and the enemy's historical air superiority, where even a bomber in flight becomes an excellent target for destruction.

                      I have already answered about this - it is one of the components of the strategic nuclear forces, and the most flexible and suitable for use in a non-nuclear medium-intensity war.
                      Their fighters certainly won't fly into Siberia—they won't have enough kerosene, and there are plenty of interceptors. Missiles can, but there's a missile warning system and the practice of emergency takeoff and dispersal standards. Both sides play at war; a one-sided battle with a strong adversary isn't possible. But if a bomber (equipped), even in this scenario, manages to take off and fire its cruise missiles, it's already fulfilled its purpose. And if it manages to land at one of the alternate airfields, reload, refuel, and repeat, it'll be a Twice-Well-Done.
                      But it will be easier to fight with the Europeans. If the US abstains... the degenerates have no chance at all.

                      Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                      For some reason, our media loves to report on the banal flight of yet another Tu-95SM over neutral waters and how foreign fighters immediately attach themselves to them.

                      This is simply a demonstration of capabilities and a reason to test the readiness of the enemy air force and air defense systems. In a real war, all launches would be over friendly territory and under the cover of our fighters and ground-based air defenses.
                      and now our pilots are training, theirs are getting nervous and the fighters' resources are being exhausted.
                      1. 0
                        25 June 2026 05: 09
                        In short, we need to build...aircraft included. I had no doubt about that in principle, and the question is quantity, priority, and cost. And I hope the General Staff and the government already know this.
                        But the Poseidon subs are truly a "great mystery," starting with how they'll communicate and control them after being released from a submarine. Leaving them in standby mode on the ocean floor awaiting an attack command is something I can hardly imagine, as a former submarine radio operator and a graduate of the Institute of Communications's radio communications department. Leaving them in shallow waters up to 50 meters deep, where VLF waves can still penetrate, at which point the "launch" command can be sent, poses a significant risk of detection, theft, and destruction. And searching for them ourselves in such shallow waters with a massive submarine would risk running them aground. Such submarines aren't designed to operate submerged at such depths. The only other option is to have an antenna from the Poseidon itself floating on a buoy, but that would greatly complicate their design, and I doubt they even have that capability.
                        I know about the Zeus VLF transmitter, but it's the only one on the Kola Peninsula and would be destroyed by the first strike. No one would rely on a single Zeus for the entire system. So what would happen then?
                      2. -1
                        25 June 2026 08: 45
                        Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
                        In short, we need to build...airplanes too.

                        We've got the production of combat aircraft—heavy fighters and tactical bombers—well underway, and the work continues. Both quantity and quality appear to be in order. The light Su-75 light fighter-bomber is on the way, including in three versions (single-seat, two-seat, and unmanned). We already have at least a pre-production batch of the heavy, stealthy S-70 Okhotnik UAV, which also happens to be supersonic (1500-1700 km/h). It only needs the Rassvet broadband satellite constellation to be ready for mass production. It has a weapons bay like the Su-57, and can also use the RAVs like a regular fighter. We'll probably be able to address MRA issues within 10 years (while the Tu-22M3 is still around), including... thanks to the development of platforms such as the Su-34M\M2 and Su-57.
                        I won't dwell further on the Poseidon, because times are such that we might even see the use of all this beauty. I'll say one thing: this weapon exists, it's extremely powerful, and it has its own specific uses. If such a weapon is used... the world will tremble.
                      3. 0
                        10 July 2026 09: 46
                        Я был в отпуске и только сейчас вернулся с плюсом от меня. Спасибо за ответ. но не понимаю вашей скрытности порассуждать о Посейдоне... Хотя бы в принципе его применения, т.е. однозначного запуска именно с АПЛ, чего я понять не могу.
                      4. +1
                        10 July 2026 10: 06
                        Их совсем не обязательно запускать именно с ПЛА .Но если это не просто торпеда , автономный комплекс скрытного развёртывания , то их нужно не только разворачивать , но и собирать после дежурства . Предположение , но как вариант . На самом деле о этой системе ничего толком неизвестно . Кроме мощности и дальности автономного хода
                      5. 0
                        Yesterday, 08: 25
                        На самом деле о этой системе ничего толком неизвестно . Кроме мощности и дальности автономного хода

                        И даже эти параметры наверняка не открывают полностью по соображению секретности. Отсюда и масса вопросов по применению и транспортировке "Посейдона". Я как и вы, тоже где-то читал, что его можно будет разместить на дне моря в режиме ожидания сигнала к атаке. И тут у меня как радиста с ПЛ и инженера связиста по высшему образованию, сходу возник первый вопрос: - Как с ним связываться на глубине для подачи команды на атаку? И пока тут только два реальных варианта. Или размещать его на глубинах до 50 метров куда достает СДВ диапазон, или оборудовать "Посейдон" всплывающей антенной, что сильно усложняет его конструкцию. Третий вариант с использованием ОНЧ "Зевс" я не считаю реальным во время войны, поскольку такой р/передатчик в единственном виде на Кольском п-ве и наверняка будет уничтожен в первую очередь. Рассчитывать на "Зевс" это подставить всю программу применения "Посейдонов".
                        Размещение "Посейдонов" на мелководье (до 50 м) для относительно надежной связи с ним, конечно вариант, но вряд ли это будет вблизи побережья врага, куда надо будет ещё добраться на АПЛ-носителе и отложить эту "личинку". А если не вблизи вражеских берегов, то почему вообще не запускать его со своего берега, коли у него неограниченный запас хода? Зачем в принципе нужен носитель в виде АПЛ?
                        их нужно не только разворачивать , но и собирать после дежурства .

                        А тут ещё интереснее... Могу допустить, что искать их на дне будут с помощью автономных аппаратов с той же АПЛ по координатам известным только нам. И не дай бог по каким-либо излучениям с его борта, что потенциально сразу рассекретит его местоположение врагу. А далее нужно будет как-то зацепить его и прикрепить обратно к АПЛ с помощью робота-автомата или ручного манипулятора... Это такой "геморрой" и настолько сложная, рискованная манипуляция, которая обесценивает всю идею с их применением. А ведь по сути, "Посейдон" это самоуправляемая мощнейщая, глубоководная торпеда с неограниченным ходом. И как любую торпеду его по идее можно запускать с любого места, любого надводного судна и даже с берега... Разве что сбрасывать с самолета слишком рискованно.
                        Короче. пока мне ничего непонятно с "Посейдоном", но надеюсь со временем будет больше информации и что-то прояснится. Как прояснилось для меня (связиста) принцип связи и управления гиперзвуковым "Авангардом" сквозь облако плазмы, которое образуется вокруг него в атмосфере. Оказалось все проще чем казалось. Просто делают специальную антенну на корпусе, которая получается высунутой из облака. А из-за её формы и размера, вокруг антенны облако не образуется.
                      6. 0
                        Yesterday, 12: 13
                        Я не буду рассуждать о "Посейдоне" . Достаточно уже известного о нём - это реальная боевая система особой мощности , способная решать поставленные задачи . Этого достаточно . И это хорошее оружие гарантированно ультимативного уровня . Но не для ультиматума , а для практического применения .
                      7. 0
                        Today, 07: 02
                        Не настаиваю, но мне странно, что такие вопросы не возникают или не интересуют вас. И вы удовлетворены банальной констатацией, что Посейдон есть и он грозное оружие.
                        У меня совсем иной принцип доверия к таким новинкам вооружений. Я понимаю, что "На хитрую ж... всегда есть ...с винтом". Или другими словами у любого оружия есть, или быстро найдутся, свои недостатки и средства противодействия. И Посейдон с доставкой (запуском) исключительно со специальной АПЛ, это очень уязвимая система на данный момент. Если только такими носителями не станут десяток лодок, а лучше потенциально любой надводный корабль или береговой пост, куда привезут Посейдон с обученной командой для запуска.
                      8. 0
                        Today, 09: 30
                        Пусть это будет приятным и незабываемым сюрпризом .
        3. +4
          21 June 2026 15: 27
          Because the launch vehicle's software costs no less than the actual product. And they can then be modernized and re-modernized, feeding the domestic design bureau and enterprise. You might also ask why the US has three types of nuclear submarines in service, while we have 23. That's why. Logic and common sense don't work when it comes to the survival of a strategic enterprise.
          1. +4
            22 June 2026 00: 06
            Why does the US have 3 types of submarines, while we have 23?

            Firstly, they have 4 types in their arsenal.
            Secondly, of these 23 (I personally counted 7), we only have 2 new types (3 if you count the Poseidon carriers). The Project 955 submarines are slated to replace the Project 667BDRM submarines. The Project 885 submarines are slated to replace the Project 949A submarines (they were originally supposed to be upgraded to the 949AM standard, but judging by the pace of Chelyabinsk's modernization, there's serious doubt this will happen) and the 971 and 945A submarines. There's no direct replacement for the 945 and 671A submarines due to their special titanium alloy hulls, but they, despite initial modernization plans, are also slated to be replaced by the Project 885.

            So, according to the plans, we should have one type of strategic and one type of multi-purpose nuclear submarines left, there will be no purely torpedo boats at all, there will be a type of ship, Poseidon carriers (if there is one, since at the moment not a single boat has been built), and some special-purpose boats.

            The fact that the replacement of older designs with newer ones is, to put it mildly, not proceeding very quickly is another matter. This makes Navy Commander-in-Chief A.A. Moiseyev's promise that all third-generation nuclear submarines will be replaced by Yasen-class submarines within the next decade rather hard to believe.
            But it is precisely this slowness that is the reason for such a diversity of submarine projects in the fleet, and not because we are building submarines of many different projects.
        4. +3
          21 June 2026 17: 16
          I agree with your opinion, but how many staff positions will be vacated then?! That's a mess!
        5. +2
          21 June 2026 22: 35
          I agree. It's like ground-based systems—they roam around the positional area, making it difficult to determine where it is. Or maybe they were rail-based—that's also impossible to determine.
      2. + 15
        21 June 2026 12: 45
        As I understand it, the Soviet Union made galoshes that no one in the oligarchy needed, the factories were successfully destroyed by the authorities because there was no need for galoshes - and now these galoshes are running out and there is nowhere to buy them? wassat
    2. +5
      21 June 2026 09: 40
      It's hard to say what can be done against engines that have nothing and, worst of all, will never have anything.

      Previously, there were articles that the Tu-22M3 would be equipped with NK-32 engines (from the Tu-160) after appropriate modernization.
      1. +4
        21 June 2026 11: 52
        Quote: figvam
        It's hard to say what can be done against engines that have nothing and, worst of all, will never have anything.

        Previously, there were articles that the Tu-22M3 would be equipped with NK-32 engines (from the Tu-160) after appropriate modernization.

        There was information that they were planning to install NK-32 engines, but not the same as on the Tu-160, but a variation of it: the power unit is located in a different place (moved taking into account the design features of the aircraft)
  2. + 20
    21 June 2026 06: 08
    All Russian long-range aviation aircraft were lost over our territory!!!
    There are no words...not in battle, not in attacks on the enemy... request
    What the hell.
    Only back in 2008, the Georgians shot down one plane...what
    1. + 24
      21 June 2026 06: 16
      What the hell)) Everything is thought out, paid for, etc. After all, we can't build a new Tu-22, everyone who was involved in this has been dispersed, the equipment has been destroyed, and we don't know how to make a new one (We were able to assemble the Tu-160, but again, we won't be able to produce new ones from USSR components (this is truly a checkmate) (40 years of showing off instead of plowing is a breakthrough, Armat, Kurgan, and Black Eagles have made (((they will certainly cause a stir among the enemy if they make it) only Spiridon is taking the rap, and even then, it's only of minor importance)
      1. + 27
        21 June 2026 06: 25
        Quote from Mazunga
        After all, we can’t build a new Tu-22

        This is Russian "wild capitalism"; it is incapable of creation.
        1. + 36
          21 June 2026 06: 30
          There was no capitalism in Russia, there was a big grab that flowed into a sucker cart. Now this cataclysm is starting to remind me of feudalism.
          1. + 28
            21 June 2026 08: 10
            Quote from Mazunga
            Now this cataclysm is starting to remind me of feudalism

            I agree, everything now resembles feudalism. Although, in my opinion, we have a plutocracy. A plutocracy is a form of government in which political power is effectively concentrated in the hands of a small group of the wealthiest citizens or economic elites.
            1. Eug
              +4
              21 June 2026 11: 02
              According to the definition of academician Boris Viktorovich Rauschenbach, the form of government in Russia is KAKOcracy, yes, yes, precisely in the childish understanding of this "term".
            2. +9
              21 June 2026 12: 50
              Although, in my opinion, we have a plutocracy. A plutocracy is a form of government in which political power is effectively concentrated in the hands of a small group of the wealthiest citizens or economic elites.

              The effectiveness (or lack thereof) of a plutocracy depends heavily on how and under what circumstances these wealthiest citizens became so. Our nouveau riche are not Gateses, Zuckerbergs, or Musks; they made their fortunes through criminal and semi-criminal schemes, or came from among the officials, including those in uniform, who protected these schemes, or simply extorted the wealth of others.
              These plutocrats are excellent at competing, using all sorts of methods that don't quite fit in with the Russian Criminal Code, but as for creating... well, that's never been a requirement in their biographies, so where would our bosses get such competencies?
              1. +6
                21 June 2026 14: 13
                Quote: UAZ 452
                These plutocrats are excellent at competing, using all sorts of methods that don't quite fit in with the Russian Criminal Code, but as for creating... well, that's never been a requirement in their biographies, so where would our bosses get such competencies?

                I completely agree with you that our elite is not capable of creation, for the reasons you have indicated.
              2. +9
                21 June 2026 15: 33
                And yet, mind you, we have plutocrats who created wealth through intellect and skill: Durov, an IT marketing genius, and his IT team led by his brother; Galitsky with his magnet; Shevtsev, who transformed a depressed village into a tourist mecca. But the first was forced out, his business stolen; the second's business stolen; the third is in jail, his business stolen, his property confiscated.
                Western political scientists suggest the name "mafia state" for the current Russian vertical power structure, while our great people have coined the word "mafia state"—that is, these phenomena are noticeable both from the outside and from the inside.
          2. +1
            21 June 2026 10: 30
            Capitalism in Russia is either struggling to take hold or is being rejected by the country's very fabric. At the beginning of the last century, the transition to capitalism ended in world war and revolution. Seventy years later, this phenomenon's mission, under the same symbols, seems to have once again led to nothing good.
            1. +9
              21 June 2026 12: 57
              Capitalism is the system replacing feudalism. And our feudal lords are desperately fighting to maintain their power and privileges. And even those who came to power from the people and ostensibly for the people, after a short period of time (by historical standards), are little different from those feudal lords whom they themselves seemingly reduced to nothing.
              But in our country, we have never yet reached the point of real capitalism, because the next boyar class managed to form much earlier.
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              2. 0
                24 June 2026 12: 52
                Because laws must work! And it doesn't matter who you are—a god, a loser, or a residency veteran—everyone is equal before the law—"this is a fundamental principle of a democratic state governed by the rule of law, which means that the law applies equally to all people, regardless of their status, wealth, or origin." But here, thieves are untouchable: "Who's going to put him in jail? He's a monument!" Monolith. Everything is concreted over. Those who are supposed to fulfill their duties as law enforcement are tightly bound: "They should have fought evil, not joined it." Therefore, we need to completely demolish the system if we want a bright future for ourselves and our children. Negotiating is not an option (one did, and that's where he is now), otherwise everything will return to normal. Only demolition.
          3. +8
            21 June 2026 16: 54
            Under feudalism, boyars' sons led regiments. It seems we're eclectic—we've recruited a little from everywhere, and only the worst.
            1. +2
              21 June 2026 22: 50
              This was in the feudal system that existed before Catherine the Great. And there, too, an eclectic mix of Russian traditions and European borrowings emerged. And it wasn't that they deliberately chose the worst, they simply took what was striking and eye-catching, without thinking about efficiency. Well, it all started with Peter the Great—beard chopping and wigs were the primary focus, the rest would happen if they had time.
              1. +2
                21 June 2026 23: 30
                Under those feudal regimes, some boyars fought, others stole, defected to the enemy, and so on. The officer corps wasn't made up of peasants; noblemen fought, and their wives and daughters helped in hospitals. Not all, but many. And now, the boyars' children and wives are carousing in all sorts of Istanbuls and Parises, without exception, while the boyars themselves have backup airfields, and among them are nothing but Kurbskys.
                1. 0
                  22 June 2026 00: 01
                  Nikolai's daughters also worked as nurses at the hospital, which didn't stop the grateful people from slamming them in the basement. And if that's how much people love us, is it worth bothering with? Better to have a backup plan.
                  1. +3
                    22 June 2026 00: 17
                    They were eliminated because they had supporters, despite all their ambivalence. The Whites, however, had no one they could formally appoint to lead them.
                    In 1937, some ill-wishers tried to put my great-grandfather in jail, claiming he had an icon hanging in his house. He protested that it was his mother-in-law's house, not his. Ultimately, they told him it would be better to go to work in Leningrad, where he had written his siege diaries. Well, my great-grandmother took the icon down one day to dust it, and on the other side was the imperial family. If anyone had found out, many would have been in jail...
                  2. +3
                    22 June 2026 11: 32
                    Quote: UAZ 452
                    Nikolai's daughters also worked part-time as nurses at the hospital, which didn't stop the grateful people from throwing them in the basement too.

                    Pfft... members of the Family fought at the front, too. Which didn't stop other Family members from gobbling up the military budget like crazy—knowing full well that their relatives would have to pay for it, too.
        2. + 11
          21 June 2026 09: 00
          It's unfair, because we have one person who decides everything, and somehow "capitalism" is to blame. Whatever this person says, that's what happens. He said, "When a fight is inevitable, you have to strike first," and that's what they did. Is this also capitalism, somehow?
      2. + 10
        21 June 2026 06: 40
        Quote from Mazunga
        We were able to assemble the Tu-160, but we won't be able to produce new ones from Soviet components.

        They are now making new ones, not from spare parts.
        1. + 13
          21 June 2026 07: 17
          They are now making new ones, not from spare parts.

          We did it last month! The program has been scaled back, and apparently even repairs have been curtailed or are proceeding very slowly. And guess where the specialists will go when they stop paying them again...
          1. -6
            21 June 2026 09: 35
            Quote: Sergey3
            They are now making new ones, not from spare parts.

            We did it last month! The program has been scaled back, and apparently even repairs have been curtailed or are proceeding very slowly. And guess where the specialists will go when they stop paying them again...

            Do not write nonsense.
            New Tu 160s are being assembled.
            Modernization and major repairs of operational Tu-160 aircraft are also being carried out.
            1. + 16
              21 June 2026 09: 41
              You're writing nonsense. Component deliveries stopped in April, the second and third shifts were eliminated, and weekend work was eliminated. Take off your rose-colored glasses. The country is in crisis, and the government has stopped funding such projects, with people leaving the industry in droves. All the money has been diverted to bombs, missiles, and drones, while everything else has been completely shut down. Do you even bother to ask what's going on in the country? Forty-four defense-related enterprises in Kazan and the surrounding area are even planning to switch to a four-day workweek, and this is in the midst of a war!
              1. -2
                21 June 2026 10: 59
                Quote: Sergey3
                You're writing nonsense. Component deliveries stopped in April, the second and third shifts were eliminated, and weekend work was eliminated. Take off your rose-colored glasses. The country is in crisis, and the government has stopped funding such projects, with people leaving the industry in droves. All the money has been diverted to bombs, missiles, and drones, while everything else has been completely shut down. Do you even bother to ask what's going on in the country? Forty-four defense-related enterprises in Kazan and the surrounding area are even planning to switch to a four-day workweek, and this is in the midst of a war!

                How many new Tu-160s were assembled?
                What's up with the PAK DA program at KAZ?
                1. +6
                  21 June 2026 14: 03
                  For those who aren't familiar with the matter, let me explain: new and repaired aircraft haven't flown for six months; that hasn't happened in a very long time. The newly assembled ones are hidden in the assembly shop and not given away anywhere.
      3. -7
        21 June 2026 08: 04
        They've been making new Tu-160s for a year now.
        1. +2
          21 June 2026 12: 55
          Quote: Zaurbek
          The Tu-160s are already new. make , a year ago

          How much did you make?
          1. +3
            21 June 2026 13: 12
            Quote: Adrey
            Quote: Zaurbek
            The Tu-160s are already new. make , a year ago

            How much did you make?

            The Russian Aerospace Forces' Long-Range Aviation fleet will be replenished with two Tu-160M ​​missile carriers in 2025.
            18.12.2025, 13: 13
            Photo: © press service of PJSC UAC
            On December 17, 2025, speaking at a meeting of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Minister Andrei Belousov announced the transfer of two Tu-160M ​​strategic bombers to the Aerospace Forces' Long-Range Aviation in 2025. These are newly built aircraft, manufactured under the resumed production program at the S.P. Gorbunov Kazan Aviation Plant. This was reported in a statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense press service.
            The production program for the modernized Tu-160M ​​aircraft involves assembling the aircraft using restored vacuum welding technologies for titanium structures and updated cooperation on components and avionics. The first flight of the newly built prototype aircraft took place on February 2, 2020. Serial deliveries will begin after production resumes in Kazan in 2022.
            As of January 1, 2023, the Tu-160 fleet in the Long-Range Aviation was estimated at sixteen aircraft. This figure included aircraft in varying technical conditions, some of which were undergoing repairs and modernization. In February 2023, the first four new-build Tu-160Ms were delivered to the Russian Aerospace Forces. Including the two aircraft delivered this year, the combined fleet of Tu-160s and Tu-160Ms reaches at least twenty units.
            The Tu-160M ​​is equipped with NK-32-02 engines produced by UEC-Kuznetsov (Samara). These engines provide improved fuel efficiency and thrust at cruising speeds and high-altitude conditions, in particular, an increase in maximum flight speed from 2200 to 2400 km/h at altitudes of 10500-12500 m.
            The upgraded onboard electronic equipment includes the Novella NV1.70 multi-mode radar system (manufactured by Zaslon), the Himalayas multi-band electronic warfare system, the Redut-70M onboard defense system, and the NO-70M navigation system. The control and navigation system includes the S-505-70 secure communications system, the ABSU-200MT autopilot, the BINS-SP-1 strapdown inertial navigation system, the ANS-2009M celestial navigation system, and the A737DP radio navigation receiver.
            __In the air defense zone, the Tu-160M ​​is used exclusively as a platform for launching long-range cruise missiles: the Kh-55, Kh-555, and Kh-101, which for these missiles ranges from 2500 km (Kh-55/Kh-555) to more than 5000 km (Kh-101), depending on the variant and flight profile.
            1. +2
              21 June 2026 17: 02
              They started building 4 new ones, finished building three and apparently handed them over, no one said anything about new ones.
              1. +3
                21 June 2026 18: 57
                2 new ones, one from some backlog
                1. +3
                  21 June 2026 19: 24
                  They started building them in 2019, no one talked about laying new ones. request
                  1. 0
                    22 June 2026 09: 03
                    The last two were said to be new.
    2. +3
      21 June 2026 16: 47
      It was not the Georgians who shot it down, but a Ukrainian crew with its missile launcher, fighting on the Georgian side.
  3. -6
    21 June 2026 06: 12
    I can't imagine how two engines could fail at once. But even if, by some miracle, this were to happen, the aircraft would enter glide mode, and the crew could either bail out without any problems or attempt to land on an area suitable for a less-than-smooth landing. All of this is practiced in simulators.
    1. +9
      21 June 2026 06: 43
      I can't imagine how two engines can fail at once?
      It's very easy. And three engines can fail simultaneously. There are a multitude of reasons. Poor fuel quality. A major electrical short circuit. Crew error. It's happened too. A flock of birds. To land after a failure, you need to have sufficient altitude and speed to glide and perform minimal maneuvers. Without sufficient altitude and speed, the plane becomes uncontrollable and turns into a stone, hurtling downwards.
      1. -8
        21 June 2026 08: 34
        Quote: Siberian 66
        Low-quality fuel. A major electrical short circuit. Crew error. This has happened before. A flock of birds.
        The examples you gave are so theoretically impossible that it’s not even worth talking about.
        1. +5
          21 June 2026 09: 07
          Quote: Schneeberg
          The examples you gave are so theoretically impossible that it’s not even worth talking about.

          I know of a case when 4 (four) engines turned off.
          But the skill of the pilots allowed them to make a normal landing at their airfield.
          1. -1
            21 June 2026 14: 14
            Quote: Bez 310
            I know of a case where 4 (four) engines were turned off.
            This is such an unusual case, as if some alien had registered on VO
            1. +5
              21 June 2026 14: 33
              Quote: Schneeberg
              This is such an unusual case.

              This is a case from life...
        2. +2
          21 June 2026 13: 02
          The examples you gave are so theoretically impossible that it’s not even worth talking about.

          Well, that means it's all a lie, and the plane didn't crash.
    2. +6
      21 June 2026 10: 32
      "I can't imagine how two engines can fail at once?"
      Add water and sand to kerosene and you will get the desired result. laughing
      At that airbase, you can see that all the underground kerosene tanks are rusted and drawing water and dirt from the soil. It's no wonder that the second plane in a year crashed due to engine failure.
      1. -5
        21 June 2026 14: 19
        Add water and sand to kerosene and you will get the desired result.
        Turn on your brain and then tell me how sand and water can get into jet fuel.
        1. 0
          22 June 2026 10: 41
          "and then tell me how sand and water are"
          I wrote about this above. Be able to read and understand what you read. laughing
    3. +3
      21 June 2026 12: 56
      Quote: Schneeberg
      But even if by some miracle this does happen, the machine goes into planning mode.

      Modern airplanes glide slightly better than a well-speeded iron.
  4. +6
    21 June 2026 06: 15
    It is necessary to count the losses, although this is a sad matter.
    But how many new aircraft have been built in the last 10-20 years is a burning question. How long can we numb the pain with anesthesia? There's no answer, only the eternal Russian questions...
  5. + 10
    21 June 2026 06: 23
    What's up with Russian long-range aviation?

    Roman! What's wrong with her? As far as I remember, we only do that with icebreakers, dollar billionaires, out-of-nowhere "heroes," and... promises and promises...
    And the rest, a beautiful marquise ...
    1. +7
      21 June 2026 11: 58
      We only do this with icebreakers

      Things are not quite right with our icebreakers.
      Let me remind you that the deadline for the delivery of the lead ship of Project 10510 "Lider" has been missed, the cost of construction has increased significantly, and there is no information at all about the construction of other ships of this project, although the original plan was to build a series of such ships.
      As for Project 22220 of the Arktika type, the situation there is better, but there has also been an increase in the cost of the new ships.
      1. +4
        21 June 2026 12: 19
        Quote: Kravets Vyacheslav
        Things are not quite right with our icebreakers.

        Dear Vyacheslav!
        We are much better off with icebreakers than with passenger planes and cars...
        We will meet the Ice Age fully armed!!! fellow
      2. +2
        21 June 2026 17: 05
        Well, the Kramatorsk plant manufactured important components for icebreakers, but something went wrong, and they never made it to Kramatorsk. So, we had to urgently and painfully import-substitute.
    2. 0
      21 June 2026 12: 48
      And the rest, a beautiful marquise ...

      Another marquise https://vk.com/video-135285_160946676, current.
  6. 0
    21 June 2026 06: 26
    So, let's take the initial figure of 24 aircraft and start to think about it a bit. Yes, considering that the Aerospace Forces have about 50 Tu-22M aircraft in total, 24 is a terrifying figure, indicating that half of our Long-Range Aviation is all we have.

    The author somehow completely forgot, or perhaps didn't even know, that the Russian Air Defense Forces aren't just the Tu-22M. They include the Tu-160, Tu-95, and Tu-22M.
    1. + 10
      21 June 2026 07: 21
      It's not just the Tu-22M. It's the Tu-160, Tu-95, and Tu-22M.

      Essentially, in the SVO, only the Tu-22M can be used as a fully-fledged long-range aircraft carrying FABs with UMPK missiles. The Tu-160 won't be allowed anywhere near the border because they're currently in limited supply, and production of a single aircraft takes at least two years. The Tu-95MS became obsolete 30 years ago; any modern air defense system is contraindicated for it; it essentially performs the same function as the B-52 nuclear transport aircraft. As a result, the entire role of the Tu-160 and Tu-95 in the SVO is reduced to discarding the Kh-55s, which have reached their expiration date.
      1. +7
        21 June 2026 07: 55
        Quote: spektr9
        The Tu-95MS became obsolete 30 years ago; any modern air defense system is contraindicated for it.
        It can launch six of its cruise missiles without entering the enemy's air defense zone. And that's all it needs to do...
        1. +2
          21 June 2026 13: 09
          Indeed, all strategic aviation launches cruise missiles from deep within its own airspace, meaning they serve only as delivery vehicles to the launch site. This begs the question: why bother with the ultra-expensive Tupolevs, when much cheaper and more versatile transport aircraft like the Il-76, after their less-than-radical modernization, could have handled this role just fine? Perhaps the PAK DA program was canceled for good reason? However, I've heard nothing about any plans to modernize military transport aircraft in this area.
          1. +1
            21 June 2026 21: 04
            "And the question arises: why then the ultra-expensive Tushkas?" – for the speed of delivery of the "products" to the launch site. This is their only main advantage. And if delivery time isn't critical, then launches can be made from either transporters or balloons.
            1. 0
              21 June 2026 22: 45
              At supersonic speeds, they can only fly in afterburner mode, and for a very short time. This mode was intended for penetrating enemy air defenses, which is now considered an outdated and no longer relevant concept. And the cruising speed (according to open sources) of the Tu-22M3 (930 km/h), like the Tu-160 (850 km/h), is not significantly higher than that of the Il-76 (800 km/h), so it would be worth making a fuss just because of this small difference in launch speed. And if you consider how many airfields meet the requirements for the Il-76, and how many for strategic bombers (many, many, many fewer), then the speed of deploying military transport aircraft as missile carriers on almost any long-range aircraft will be much higher than for long-range aviation aircraft. And the covert and protected deployment of cruise missile arsenals is much easier to organize than hiding the Tu-22M3s themselves from enemy satellites and protecting them at airfields.
              1. 0
                22 June 2026 18: 25
                "They can only fly at supersonic speeds using afterburners, and for a very short time," but they don't need afterburners to fly for very long. This was all developed for the "single sortie" concept. Everything was designed for a nuclear strike from both sides. The planes take off as quickly as possible, strike, and that's it, they won't return because there will be no airfields. The same goes for submarines with nuclear weapons: they'll fire back, but they won't return—there will be no bases.
                The problem isn't the planes, but that they're being used for something other than what they were originally designed and built for. They're a weapon for a single, final strike, where every second counts. And yet, they've been turned into mere "iron carriers."

                "The rapid deployment of military transport aircraft with virtually any long-range bomber as missile carriers will be much higher than for long-range aircraft"—that's the point, strategists weren't designed for just any long-range bomber. They were designed for one—a global nuclear strike. But many have somehow forgotten this. And are trying to adapt them for other missions.
      2. +1
        21 June 2026 22: 49
        Who do you think makes the Kh101 launches? The Tu-95 has been making them since the Syrian era.
    2. +8
      21 June 2026 07: 24
      Andrey, welcome!

      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      The author somehow completely forgot, or perhaps didn't even know, that the Russian Air Defense Forces aren't just the Tu-22M. They also include the Tu-160, Tu-95, and Tu-22M

      It is still correct to indicate the full designation of the aircraft. Tu-22M (Tu-22M0) - this is a purely experimental vehicle. It was not produced in series. Tu-22M2 и Tu-22M3. Currently, only the following are in use Tu-22M3There is a very significant difference between all these modifications.
      1. +5
        21 June 2026 10: 14
        Quote: Bongo
        It is still correct to indicate the full designation of the aircraft

        Agree
        Quote: Bongo
        Currently, only Tu-22M3s are in operation.

        There is also the Tu-22M3M
        1. +1
          21 June 2026 16: 39
          Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
          There is also the Tu-22M3M

          If I remember correctly, there were 3 pieces.
    3. +4
      21 June 2026 10: 42
      Of course, things may have changed now with "optimization." But it seems like there used to be long-range aviation and strategic aviation with different types of aircraft.
      Tu-160 and Tu-95 were in strategic aviation. hi
      1. +4
        21 June 2026 11: 29
        Quote: Vladimir M
        But it seems like before there was long-range aviation and strategic aviation with different types of aircraft.

        I can't go into detail about the history, but you're absolutely right that the DA and strategic aviation used to be different. But they were merged. hi
        1. +1
          21 June 2026 11: 51
          Thank you, I didn’t.
          Oh, this "optimization"...
          Each "optimization" has a first and last name
        2. 0
          21 June 2026 16: 59
          Combined as classes or as objects of management and use?
          1. +1
            21 June 2026 19: 35
            Quote: Andrey Gladkikh
            Combined as classes or as objects of management and use?

            I didn't understand the question, but the point is that the Tu-160 and Tu-95 are considered DA today.
  7. -9
    21 June 2026 06: 43
    Have you tried looking for saboteurs among aircraft technicians?
    1. + 23
      21 June 2026 07: 24
      You're looking in the wrong place; you need to look for saboteurs among those who completely destroyed the factories and assembly lines for these machines.
      1. + 10
        21 June 2026 08: 06
        Quote: spektr9
        You're looking in the wrong place
        Top ten!
      2. +2
        21 June 2026 16: 53
        Quote: spektr9
        You're looking in the wrong place,

        We need to search everywhere. Notice how many SBU agents the FSB is detaining.
        Are you saying the SBU isn't trying to recruit agents at aircraft factories, strategic air force bases, and other important facilities? I'm sure they are. And who knows, maybe they're succeeding somewhere. So, we need to look everywhere.
  8. +6
    21 June 2026 06: 43
    It's sad, of course, but this is in contrast to what's happening to our entire aviation sector. We can't really modify or relaunch old, proven designs, from the AN-2 to this Tu-22M. We've been struggling with new ones for 20 years, and they're still not operational. Sure, there are Su-57s and Su-35s, but how many are there? We need armadas of aircraft to counter NATO armadas. Officially, we have 27 aircraft manufacturing and repair plants, but what are they doing? How many bombers like the Tu-22M does our country need, taking into account combat losses and other various losses? 300-500? And there are no plans to produce them at all. So, basically, we can assume that our long-range aviation will soon be completely screwed. crying hi
    1. 0
      21 June 2026 13: 02
      Quote: V.
      How many bomber aircraft like the Tu-22M does our country need?

      0As an example, give at least one country that has similar vehicles in service.
      1. -2
        21 June 2026 14: 14
        Are there other countries like ours, with such territory and such wealth? So they developed their combat aviation with this in mind, taking into account our mentality and our military experience. Maybe they'll have to bomb Berlin again, like they did in 41. They'll also have to arm the An-2 and send it into battle. hi
        1. +1
          21 June 2026 15: 45
          Quote: V.
          Are there other countries like ours with such territory and such wealth?

          What's wrong with the US in this regard? The territory they control is much larger.
          Quote: V.
          So, combat aviation was developed taking this into account, taking into account our mentality and our military experience.

          So-so experience in the end.
          Quote: V.
          Maybe he will have to bomb Berlin again like in 41.

          Well, yes, yes ...
    2. +3
      21 June 2026 17: 11
      Quote: V.
      nor restart the old proven designs from the AN-2

      Of course we can't. UZGA, which was supposed to provide the country with new aircraft, was headed for many years by V.A. Badekha. In 2023, he was promoted to acting general director of UEC, and in 2024, he became the head of UAC. Apparently, his skills in presentations and promises were noticed, and he was promoted to manage the entire industry, so that no one else would build anything, but at least he would effectively utilize budget funds.
  9. +4
    21 June 2026 06: 56
    The saddest thing is that there is absolutely nothing ahead: the PAK DA project was cancelled, or rather, Putin ordered it cancelled, without really explaining why he decided so.

    Apparently because they decided to continue building the Tu-160M2. And yes, I know the pace isn't as high as we'd like, but they're building them.
  10. +1
    21 June 2026 07: 01
    Any discussion, even about bolt production, boils down to politics. It can't be any other way. We need long-range aviation. But why? Look closely, can't you see? The veneration of America has begun again. The Americans don't need Russian long-range aviation.
  11. 0
    21 June 2026 07: 28
    Tu-22M3...
    What specific tasks does this particular aircraft perform that other types of aircraft can't? What will be lost with the retirement of this particular aircraft?
    1. +9
      21 June 2026 07: 37
      What specific tasks does this particular aircraft perform that other types of aircraft can't? What will be lost with the retirement of this particular aircraft?

      Using the FAB-5000 will be impossible, as nothing but strategic bombers and the Tu-22M3 will lift it. The FAB-3000, instead of three, can only carry one Su-34, and that's in the most lightweight configuration...
      That is, roughly speaking, the possibility of strikes with large-caliber bombs can be practically forgotten.
      1. +3
        21 June 2026 10: 37
        "That is, roughly speaking, the possibility of strikes with large-caliber bombs can be practically forgotten."
        Do large-caliber bombs really help these days? Maybe they took out something huge and I didn't know about it? No, they didn't? So why use them then?
        1. +4
          21 June 2026 13: 15
          Your opponent is speaking purely theoretically, about a spherical horse in a vacuum. The UMPK was unable to develop a system for large-caliber bombs like the FAB 5000, and there are serious doubts that it would even be possible. An aircraft forced to enter enemy air defense zones to destroy a target with free-fall bombs is clearly disposable.
          1. +2
            21 June 2026 17: 17
            Quote: UAZ 452
            The UMPK was unable to develop a system for large-caliber aerial bombs, such as the FAB 5000, and there are very serious doubts that this is even possible.

            It's hardly impossible; aircraft weighing over 5 tons fly. Consider the MiG-15; it can glide far. The problem is, making large-caliber high-explosive fragmentation bombs is pointless; four FAB-500s would cover a large area. Now, if someone had bothered to make a concrete-piercing penetrating bomb, they could be guaranteed to collapse bridges and bring down high-rise buildings in one fell swoop, smashing their foundations to smithereens. But someone would have to come up with the specifications and go through a million approvals and inspections. request
            1. 0
              22 June 2026 00: 16
              There's no doubt that a 5-ton object can fly—most aircraft weigh much more. The only questions are:
              1. Is it possible to attach "wings" to a specific FAB 5000 missile currently in service, given its specific geometric parameters?
              2. Will this UMPK be able to provide sufficient gliding range to make it worthwhile (if the range does not exceed the range of the enemy's most common air defense systems and air-to-air missiles, the benefit is questionable)?
              3. Even if the UMPK is created, will it be possible to attach a bomb bundle to any existing aircraft (I can't even imagine a MiG-15 suspended on the pylons of a Tu-22M3, even when it's not completely sober)? Or will the FAB-5000 with the UMPK be suitable only for exhibition display?
              Therefore, I can only repeat what I have already written: it seems more achievable to develop from scratch (if the Aerospace Forces do not have anything suitable in their arsenal) a cruise missile or UAV with a warhead of the required power, and such a weapon system would be able to operate without any strategic bombers.
              1. 0
                22 June 2026 03: 44
                Is it possible to attach "wings" to a specific FAB 5000 in service?
                So it's not worth it. It's completely idiotic that we're producing the FAB-3000 using ancient technology—a potbellied one with a brake cone so they can later slap a fairing on it. Apparently, developing a new bomb is an impossible task, or at least that's how it should be on paper.
                The five-ton concrete mixer truck will be more compact, no larger than the three-ton truck.
                Will this UMPK be able to provide sufficient gliding range?
                Of course it can! It'll fly for about 60-70 kilometers.
                Even if the UMPK is created, will it be possible to attach a bomb bundle to any existing aircraft (I can’t even imagine a MiG-15 suspended on the pylons of a Tu-22M3 when I’m not completely sober)?
                They're hooking up a healthy X-32 fool, I think they should
                development from scratch seems more achievable
                Satellite-guided boats capable of carrying a shaped-charge bomb. Paradoxically, the bridge support can be hit from the water; the Dnieper River flows into the sea, and it's about 40 kilometers from Vasilyevka to the bridges in Zaporizhzhia. It's also possible to reach them via fiber optics.
    2. +3
      21 June 2026 13: 09
      Quote: Bez 310
      Tu-22M3...
      What specific tasks does this particular aircraft perform that other types of aircraft can't? What will be lost with the retirement of this particular aircraft?

      Excellent question. Apparently, due to the lack of an answer, you were given a "-".
      1. +2
        21 June 2026 13: 25
        Quote: Adrey
        Quote: Bez 310
        Tu-22M3...
        What specific tasks does this particular aircraft perform that other types of aircraft can't? What will be lost with the retirement of this particular aircraft?

        Excellent question. Apparently, due to the lack of an answer, you were given a "-".
        For us, the loss of any aircraft is noticeable, since the bomber fleet itself is not large and is replenished very slowly (it seems that the loss is greater than the replenishment).
        1. -1
          21 June 2026 13: 35
          Quote: Bad_gr
          We feel the loss of any aircraft.

          Absolutely. The only question is how much it will cost to restore the technological process to maintain the viability of this "device," and is it practically necessary? Perhaps another solution would be simpler and cheaper?
          Quote: Adrey
          As an example, give at least one country that has similar vehicles in service.
          1. +1
            21 June 2026 13: 44
            Quote: Adrey
            Maybe it would be easier and cheaper to find another solution?
            We're having trouble getting a proper replacement for the An-2 off the ground. And the aircraft we've designed to replace the An-2 is nothing compared to the existing replacement (the An-14 "Bee," and then the An-28). We tried replacing the An-24 and An-26, but again, it didn't work out very well. I think replacing bomber aircraft will be even more challenging. For now, we need to modernize and, where possible, produce what's already proven and flying.
            1. 0
              21 June 2026 14: 01
              All this is true.
              Quote: Bad_gr
              I think the replacement of bomber aircraft will be even worse.

              I don't think it's worth replacing. Even with the Su-34, which some consider downright sabotage.
              Quote: Bad_gr
              For now, we need to modernize and, where possible, release what has already been tested and flies.

              Su-35, Su-57 hi
      2. +5
        21 June 2026 14: 12
        Quote: Adrey
        Great question.

        I just know a little more about this plane than the "experts on vacation", hence the question.
        1. +2
          21 June 2026 15: 52
          Quote: Bez 310
          I just know a little more about this plane than the "experts on vacation", hence the question.

          I read your articles on the resource hi
    3. 0
      21 June 2026 14: 27
      The main thing is that it exists, and its speed and payload capacity are basically modern. When my brother served in the naval aviation, he serviced anti-ship missiles on the Tu-22M. He took three of them, each with a ton of explosives. The regiment was based in Crimea, and its targets were in the Mediterranean. They could destroy any ship. hi
      1. +4
        21 June 2026 14: 36
        Quote: V.
        anti-ship missiles on the Tu-22M. And he took three of them.

        That's right - there is a possibility for suspension three Kh-22 type anti-ship missiles.
    4. 0
      21 June 2026 22: 55
      Only it can carry the 12-meter, 6-ton Kh22 missile and its new version. It's a very fast missile that doesn't fly like a cruise missile, but climbs to altitude and dives toward its target, effectively like a ballistic missile. It's nearly impossible to intercept.
  12. + 12
    21 June 2026 07: 33
    Why not entrust the production and repair of the Tu-22M3 to Hero of Russia Deputy Prime Minister Manturov? He's definitely up to the task.
    1. 0
      22 June 2026 14: 05
      Why not entrust the production and repair of the Tu-22M3 to Hero of Russia Deputy Prime Minister Manturov?


      Better to the Hero of Chechnya, the gold medal winner, Adam Kadyrov. Or his heroic father, the professor.
  13. -3
    21 June 2026 07: 41
    Quote: spektr9
    The use of FAB5000 will be impossible

    Where do you plan to use such bombs?
    1. +4
      21 June 2026 07: 51
      Where do you plan to use such bombs?

      Are you planning to demolish any bridges or tunnels in Ukraine? If not, then why do you really need such bombs? By that logic, you don't need tactical nuclear weapons, and even nuclear weapons are questionable.
      Here another question arises: why do you need weapons at all if you don’t plan to fight?
      1. +3
        21 June 2026 08: 27
        Quote: spektr9
        Are you planning to demolish any bridges or tunnels in Ukraine? If not, then why do you really need such bombs?

        You're absolutely right; I'm not involved in the planning of military operations in Ukraine. But since we're talking about using aerial bombs, could you tell me what's better to use on the bridge: one FAB-5000 or two FAB-3000s?
        1. +1
          21 June 2026 08: 44
          You're absolutely right; I'm not involved in the planning of military operations in Ukraine. But since we're talking about using aerial bombs, could you tell me what's better to use on the bridge: one FAB-5000 or two FAB-3000s?

          Then the question is what is more effective: to send one plane with three FAB-3000 to the bridge, or two or three planes with one FAB-3000?
          1. +2
            21 June 2026 08: 58
            Quote: spektr9
            the question is different

            Sorry, I didn't quite understand you...
            Are you a theorist, or have you had to "drive the sides"?
            Read this article, it has some sense about the combat use of aerial bombs.
            1. 0
              21 June 2026 15: 12
              Quote: Bez 310
              Read this article, it has some sense about the combat use of aerial bombs.
              The link to the article has disappeared.
              1. +2
                21 June 2026 16: 30
                https://topwar.ru/284926-mosty-cherez-dnepr-pochemu-snesti-vse-ne-rabotaet.html
                1. The comment was deleted.
        2. 0
          21 June 2026 08: 47
          And what aircraft is capable of carrying 2 FAB-3000?
      2. +1
        21 June 2026 10: 39
        "Are you planning to demolish any bridges or tunnels in Ukraine?"
        If they wanted to demolish it, they would have already demolished it laughing So yeah, we're not planning to. laughing
      3. +2
        21 June 2026 13: 23
        Where do you plan to use such bombs?

        Are you planning to demolish any bridges or tunnels in Ukraine? If not, then why do you really need such bombs?

        The FAB 5000 is a free-fall bomb; they couldn't develop a UMPK for it, and it's unlikely that it would be possible for such a carcass. This means that an aircraft designed to destroy bridges and tunnels must reach the target with this bomb. And if it doesn't, it's guaranteed to be shot down en route. If you absolutely must deliver five tons of explosives somewhere, even a ballistic missile would be cheaper than wasting an aircraft and crew, with the guaranteed failure of the mission. And developing and launching a UAV with a comparable warhead would be many times cheaper. Although... our allocated budget will be squandered for five years, with specifications approved, meetings held, certifications... and the end result will be nothing, not a UAV. But this applies even more to manned aviation – we're not talking about five years, but dozens, and the budgets will be incomparable.
  14. +6
    21 June 2026 07: 42
    Perhaps the problem here isn't a lack of engine spare parts, but rather a decline in the crews' flying skills? In Soviet times, I recall, strategists were in the air, albeit not constantly, but still quite frequently, unlike in the 1990s and early 2010s, when flight and engineering personnel secretly drank alcohol, cursed the alcoholic Yeltsin and his ilk in the smoking rooms, or played chess or dominoes in the unloading rooms. During this time, most of the flight and engineering personnel retired, passing on almost no experience to the newcomers, while the newcomers continued the course of the old guys - playing chess and dominoes...

    It's only recently that a return to the practice of combat duty for long-range aviation has begun to become commonplace, though still not as commonplace as it was during the Cold War...
  15. log
    -1
    21 June 2026 08: 01
    Glory to the "holy" nineties! Glory to Gorbeltsyn! Glory! Glory! (This was bitter mockery...)
    1. +4
      21 June 2026 13: 26
      Then glory to the faithful successor of Yeltsin’s work, personally chosen by Yeltsin himself!
  16. +6
    21 June 2026 08: 08
    Tu22m3m is not a strategist. And not a dobomber.
    It's a specialized anti-ship missile carrier. They were planning to install upgraded NK32 engines from the Tu-160. But things are quiet.
    And so, its functions should be fully performed by tactical aviation. Something like the Su-34 with an increased range.
    1. +4
      21 June 2026 08: 49
      It should be, but it doesn't exist either. Only forum members' dreams of modernizing the Su-34.
  17. 0
    21 June 2026 08: 22
    Quote: Zaurbek
    And so, its functions should be fully performed by tactical aviation. Something like the Su-34 with an increased range.
    The Su-34 is not designed for patrols or demonstrative presence in certain areas. Furthermore, the Tu-22M3 can carry significantly more cruise missiles, which is crucial for a massive penetration of the air defenses of a carrier strike group.
    1. 0
      21 June 2026 09: 18
      Of course, the Su-34 in its current configuration is not the right one. A long-range version is needed.
      And so, the arsenal can be increased very significantly.
      It's not a fact that the monstrous X22s are needed.
    2. 0
      21 June 2026 13: 39
      The Su-34 is not designed for patrolling or demonstrative presence in certain areas.

      A demonstrative presence? We need to forget the words "demonstrative" and "showing the flag," because we've already exceeded the limits on show-offs in recent years, so our flag and other "demonstrations" won't impress anyone.
    3. +2
      21 June 2026 16: 00
      The Tu-22 can't carry anything—due to its low remaining service life, its payload capacity is limited to 4 tons (as of 2022, before the SVO. Now, its service life has been exhausted even further!!!).
  18. +2
    21 June 2026 08: 50
    The saddest thing is that there is absolutely nothing ahead: the PAK DA project was cancelled, or rather, Putin ordered it cancelled, without really explaining why he decided to do so.

    Everything leads to one thing..
  19. 0
    21 June 2026 09: 05
    The launch of strategic cruise missiles must be transferred to ground-based installations equipped with appropriate boosters and disguised as vehicles for transporting civilian cargo.
    1. +1
      21 June 2026 09: 20
      Yes, it can be launched from the air.
      But why build a superplane if it won’t fly anyway?
    2. -1
      21 June 2026 09: 23
      They carry little - 500 kg mostly, while an airplane can carry several FAB-3000 or some kind of thermobar with wings.
      1. 0
        21 June 2026 13: 48
        If we're launching cruise missiles from deep within our own airspace, it's better to launch them from something like an Il-76. Strategic missiles are less suitable for dropping missiles from a multi-purpose antiaircraft gun than tactical aircraft, as the range of an enemy's air defenses exceeds that of a missile from a multi-purpose antiaircraft gun, and the Su-34 has a better chance of escaping damage than the Tu-22M3. So, it's quite difficult to imagine a niche where these aircraft wouldn't have alternatives (and significantly better alternatives) in a modern war. While they exist and are flying, it would be a sin not to use them. However, if the question arises of spending billions of dollars to resume production, not even of aircraft, but of their engines, there are many areas and projects where such budgets could be spent with much greater benefit for the combat readiness of our Armed Forces.
        1. -1
          21 June 2026 18: 01
          According to the concept, the Tu-160s were supposed to penetrate air defenses in flights, under the cover of electronic warfare, at supersonic speeds at high and very low altitudes to reach missile launch ranges. The missiles at the time were X-55s with a range of 2,000 km. The longest range.
          The Tu-22 X22 only flew 600 km.
          The Tu-95 was slow moving in itself.

          It's logical that the Tu-160 wasn't intended for America, which is why 8-10 Tu-160s were based in Western Ukraine, and near Saratov. The plan was to literally fly in squadrons through air defenses to launch nuclear strikes on Europe.

          Now, a missile can fly itself without an aircraft... and the missile is less noticeable than the enormous Strategist. This completely changes the Tu-160 concept, just like the T-80 tank and infantry fighting vehicle's ability to break through a nuclear inferno.

          It should also be added that the Americans had preemptively mined Germany with nuclear bombs and have now admitted it—that, as some had said (and no one believed them), there was a nuclear charge planted under every major bridge in Germany. And in every major city. Supposedly, there was an entire strip of land that was supposed to be blown up when the Russian tanks rolled in. Supposedly, this would buy time. As they say, the leap to the English Channel takes on new colors, essentially the colors of kamikaze suicide bombers.

          Well, the Tu-22 and even the Tu-95 are a different matter – not for penetrating defenses, but rather for defense, as evidenced by the Kh-22 missile's original naval design. Indeed, it's explicitly stated that it was designed to destroy large targets, such as a squadron. It's logical that their purpose was to strike aircraft carriers and ships that would attack the USSR from the East. This is supported by the Kh-22 missile's range of 600 km and its speed – capable of attacking a group of ships with a nuclear explosion.

          The Tu-95 is sort of both. Clearly not a breakthrough aircraft, but it carried Kh22 and Kh55 missiles.

          It's clear that the Americans would attack from the North with missiles, just like us, and from the sea with submarines, just like us. The worst chaos would be in Europe. Essentially, its only purpose is to draw off forces and play the role of martyr in our plan to reach the English Channel.

          It's also important to understand that the Americans have a critical vulnerability—their population concentrated on the coasts. On the one hand, the oceans protect them, on the other, their entire air defense is concentrated in the North to intercept our missiles over Canada and Greenland. And they don't expect threats from the South... Meanwhile, the new nuclear-powered missile has no range limit and can come from the other South Pole! And he's as penniless as a falcon, plus there's a command post in Hawaii, in a mountain.

          Again, Poseidon is designed for the coast, which is also not closed in any way, especially the Atlantic, since it's inconvenient for us to sail to it via the North. The Pacific is easier—the Kuril Islands are there.

          That's why Cuba is so painful for them! And that's why Tampon started screaming about the Golden Dome... well, it's a fact that it will be golden...

          In general, I think everyone will think about space and the old-fashioned use of strikes from above, and then they'll pass the Safe Space Law. Space is dangerous for us because it's a strike from above, but it's dangerous for them too. Although the element of water also poses a danger for them. All sorts of Losharik. And it's obvious that in the murky waters of Patomak, we need to prepare a surprise for them that will deliver the most painful blow.
          1. +1
            21 June 2026 20: 17
            Quote: Totor5
            Yes, it is clearly stated - for the destruction of large targets such as a squadron.

            Tell me, where is this indicated?
            And what, in your understanding, does the word "squadron" mean?
            1. 0
              21 June 2026 23: 16
              A squadron is an operational unit in the navy or a large tactical formation of combat aircraft in aviation, designed to carry out joint combat missions.
              The word is of French origin, derived from the Italian "squadra" (square, squad). Depending on the context, the term can mean:
              1. In the Navy, a squadron is a large, independent operational unit (or formation) comprising diverse forces—cruisers, destroyers, submarines, and support vessels. Traditionally, a squadron is commanded by an admiral or vice admiral.
          2. +2
            23 June 2026 06: 50
            Why are you downvoting him, dude? The Tu-160's concept is precisely about breaking through air defenses at supersonic speeds!!! And it's not his fault that it's outdated. And the Tu-160 isn't really needed; it's just a show-off. And an expensive one at that. The Tu-160M ​​costs $500 million.
            1. +1
              23 June 2026 08: 31
              The downside is like taking a crap under the door when you have nothing to say. It's about breaking through at supersonic speeds or at low altitudes while following terrain. The Americans had better electronics, so they followed terrain automatically.

              It's logical that all this was a long time ago—these are ideas from the 1960s, before the advent of cruise missiles, which flew at low altitude and followed the terrain. This buried the old concept of the Strategist, which lit up like a Christmas tree and is still seen during takeoff. The missile itself now essentially performs and replaces the functions of the Strategist, as it flies 5,500 km and covers all of Europe. Previously, the Tu-160 was based in Lvov specifically for attacking Europe and launching missiles with a range of 2,000 km. This was meant to penetrate the air defense system with a squadron. Now this all sounds like an Epic Fail, but in the 1960s and 1970s, it seemed reasonable.

              Against a powerful enemy with modern air defenses, the Strategi is essentially useless and is only good for launching missiles outside the enemy's range—a few thousand kilometers away, and that's where the line between the Tu-160 and Tu-95 blurs. That's why I say that if we had Tu-160s (of which there are only 10 modernized ones), we wouldn't notice their absence. The X-101 would be perfectly capable of launching both the Tu-95 and the upgraded Tu-22.

              The saga with the Strategists is reminiscent of the cries that Russia needs three (!) new aircraft carriers. Well, now everyone has clearly seen what an American aircraft carrier can do in Iran—in the country that can retaliate. The main tactic was to hang around 500 kilometers from shore and launch massive air strikes against the enemy without air defenses or missiles. And when the carrier moves further away, the planes simply run out of fuel, even with refueling. Such a comedy unfolded. Even the laundry room spontaneously caught fire.
  20. -3
    21 June 2026 09: 22
    The problem with Lebed is that there are no airfields suitable for it, and the one that does exist is in an inconvenient location. Here, the Tu-22 and Tu-95 win out.

    We need a new, more compact strategic aircraft—something between the MiG-31 and the Tu-22. They don't do mass bombing from hatches anymore, but it should carry three Kab-3000s!
    1. +4
      21 June 2026 15: 56
      The Tu-160's problem is the monstrous cost of maintenance and flight hours. It's borderline absurd: preparing the aircraft for departure takes up to three days, requires 15-20 specialized vehicles and three refueling trucks, a single flight consumes 148 tons of fuel, achieving supersonic speeds requires special nitrided fuel, and a single flight hour requires 64 man-hours of ground crew time.
      1. +1
        21 June 2026 17: 17
        Yeah, but you have to understand that the airfield is within range of Tomahawks from the Mediterranean. And a new airfield requires a special runway, etc.
        The Tu-95 can take off from almost anywhere and is fuel-efficient, though not comfortable.
        1. +4
          21 June 2026 18: 15
          One Tu-95 flight hour requires 57 man-hours of ground crew time, a full fuel load of 87 tons, high oil consumption, lengthy takeoff preparation, extremely labor-intensive engine replacements, unprecedented noise and vibration (from coaxial propellers), no ejection system, a frontal RCS of approximately 100,0 m2, a takeoff distance of 2540 meters, and inefficient engines—each is equipped with a turbostarter—a small jet engine. On the plus side, no special fuel is required.
          1. +2
            21 June 2026 19: 25
            Well, you won’t deny that the Tu-95 is more economical than the Tu-160, considering the price of the Tu-160 and the cost of the infrastructure for it.

            The Tu-95 doesn't have a catapult, but then, it's not designed for flights over combat zones. Civilian aircraft don't have catapults either, yet they fly and carry hundreds of passengers. The Tu-95 is currently used purely for patrol missions or for launching missiles over a range of several thousand kilometers.
            The Tu-22 has a catapult, and it saved lives... and the Tu-22 is more versatile than the Tu-95 and Tu-160. The only problem is the range (and no refueling) and the bomb bay, which doesn't fit the standard X-101 drum.
            Therefore, I believe a new Strateg aircraft, similar in size to the Tu-22, is needed, and the Tu-160 is essentially unnecessary. The Tu-160 carries two drums—12 X101 missiles—and the difference isn't that great, considering its price and the infrastructure needed for it.

            1) Tu-160 - the updated version can carry two drums of six X-101 missiles.
            TOTAL = 12 pieces X101 with a range of 5,500 km
            Unupdated 12 missiles * X555 with a range of up to 3,500 km
            In total we have +- 19 pieces and +- half have been modernized.

            2) Tu95 - updated can carry 8 * X101 + 6 * X555 on its wings in one drum
            In total we have +- 60 pieces and +- half of them are updated

            3) Tu22 - the updated one can carry the X101, but only on the outriggers, at least 3 pieces, and it is unclear whether it is possible to make a multi-pylon.
            The old ones can only carry 3 * X22 (X32) gigantic 12-meter reels weighing 6 tons, or free-fall bombs. You could probably mount a UMPK on the wings, but I think it's crazy to send such a colossus to short launch ranges... unless you throw a FAB-5000... but it doesn't have an UMPK!
            We have about 60 in total, with one upgraded in 2018. The actual number is unknown. It's clear that it's not the primary launch vehicle for the Kh101 and Kh555 missiles.

            Essentially, the Strategist's range is needed for one thing now: takeoff from Siberia. Or during World War III, for long-distance circling... but for what purpose? You're unlikely to circle for long with 12 missiles, and then you'll be unable to return to the airfield, and only Engels can accommodate the Tu-160.

            What do we have today? The Tu-22 is practically unused, as it's primarily designed for direct bombing (which is unrealistic) and launching the Kh-22. Essentially, its potential is wasted.
            The X555/101 is a choice between a Tu-95 or a Tu-160, but the Tu-160 is small—literally 3-4 times smaller than the Tu-95—so it's clear who's doing the bulk of the work: the old janitor who saw Stalin. But you also have to understand that only half of the Tu-95s have been modernized—30 Tu-95s and maybe 10 Tu-160s. Only modernized Tu-95s can carry the X101, while older Tu-95/160s can only carry the X555 due to drum limitations and the lack of wing pylons. In principle, I think adding pylons to the Tu-95 is easier than redesigning the Tu-160's drum.
            Maybe the drum on the Tu-95 can be converted to fit the X101, but apparently they decided that 8 pieces on the wings are enough for the old one, especially since it might not be able to handle the full load... 8 * 2400 = 19,2 tons + in the drum 6 * 2400 = 14,4 tons.
            1. 0
              21 June 2026 20: 04
              Quote: Totor5
              The Tu-22 is more versatile than the Tu-95 and Tu-160. One problem is its range (and there is no refueling)............

              MOSCOW, June 2 – RIA Novosti. The upgraded Tu-22M3M long-range bomber now has the ability to refuel in mid-air, a Tupolev Design Bureau test pilot announced on the Zvezda television channel.
              Refueling rods from the Tu-22 long-range bomber were removed after the signing of the strategic arms limitation treaty between Moscow and Washington in 1979.
              "When the agreement was signed, the American side insisted on removing the boom. The boom was removed, and the pipelines were removed. Now we had to urgently restore it. "Now it will fly with refueling for more than five hours, definitely. Seven, eight, or ten hours," the test pilot said.
              https://ria.ru/20190602/1555185418.html
              1. -1
                21 June 2026 22: 23
                It is clear that refueling can and should be done, but the funny thing is that it needs to be done, and it is not there.
                It is probably possible to make multiple suspensions, but again - where are they?
            2. +1
              21 June 2026 20: 24
              Quote: Totor5
              Only Engels can accept the Tu-160.

              Excuse me, but where did you pick up all this?
              Sorry, I just wanted to know where you got such deep knowledge about long-range aviation?
              1. 0
                21 June 2026 22: 26
                This has been their base since the 90s, and they were relocated there from Lviv. The airfield in the Far East was closed to the Americans in the late 1980s. The situation with Ukraine is clear.
                And what else?
                1. 0
                  22 June 2026 07: 58
                  Quote: Totor5
                  And what else?

                  I'll get tired of listing them, and you don't even know these airfields.
                  So where do you get all this nonsense that you spout here?
                  1. 0
                    23 June 2026 03: 22
                    Which is exactly what I had a premonition of hearing.
            3. 0
              23 June 2026 07: 00
              You're basically right. The only problem is... the Tu-95 can't carry eight missiles under the wings and six in the drum. Either six in the drum, or no more than four on the wings. The eight on the hardpoints are just promotional photos.
              1. 0
                23 June 2026 08: 11
                I think that's what I wrote. It's clear that depending on the missile type, they're loaded internally or externally. A similar setup would be sufficient for the new Tu-22: an internal drum plus the ability to mount 3* X22/Kab5000 or similar hardpoints. Or multiple hardpoints for something like the Kinzhal.
      2. +1
        21 June 2026 18: 28
        For strikes against Europe, the Strategies are no longer useful, especially without new airfields. Their importance has clearly diminished—mobile launchers like the Oreshnik/Iskander or the Su-34 with Kinzhal missiles are already sufficient for Europe.

        The Strategist is no longer the primary strike force... One could even say that Khrushchev was right to shut down work on them, although he was wrong about their use and relevance in conventional warfare. Although it's obvious that the huge Tu-160s are rather absurd to use to launch the non-nuclear Kh-101 with a 500 kg tail section, when the more compact Tu-22 and the old Tu-95 can launch them.

        Nowadays, the task of penetrating air defenses using a bomber aircraft is completely unnecessary! The missile itself performs the flight and penetration of air defenses! Therefore, anyone can launch it, and the Strategist concept is as obsolete as the Armata.

        Sure, you could have 50 Tu-160s, but what does that give you? Just another chance at a nuclear strike? The planes are easily destroyed at their airfield (and there's only one), and destroying the runway won't even give them a chance to take off—just like on an aircraft carrier. So even a fool can see that having a Tu-160's primary airfield within Tomahawk range from the Mediterranean is no joke!
        The airfield must be in the North for a launch via the Pole and in the East for a strike on the West Coast!

        But I'm not sure we need 50 new Tu-160s given their limited potential. I think we need the Tu-22 because it can operate from any airfield and carry a large warhead in many conventional wars, which clearly and consistently pays for itself.

        So, imagine we don't have the Tu-160 right now, so what? In reality, we wouldn't notice any significant difference in the loss of potential! We could similarly strike Ukraine with Tu-95s or the new Tu-22s. In a nuclear war, the Tu-160 isn't a key factor either. In fact, it's not really needed, at least not in such numbers. And most importantly, it has limited potential in conventional warfare and is essentially ballast.

        Let's sum it up...

        The Tu-160 can only be received at Engels in Saratov, the airfield in the East, an unfinished construction project from 1988, is essentially lost, the airfield near Lvov...it's more likely that the B1 will take off from there, heading towards us.
        Building new Tu-160s doesn't make sense without building at least 2-3 more airfields... expensive ones with a special 3,5 km runway and a reinforced takeoff... These are huge sums, about as ridiculous as talking about three aircraft carriers.

        The Tu-95, thanks to its age and relative lightness, can take off from Murmansk, Siberia, and the East. It's not fast, but there's no need for the aircraft to penetrate air defenses. The obvious downsides are the enormous 50-meter wings and the hangar size... The Tu-160's folding wings are clearly superior here... and talking about the new prototype, the Stealth Kambala, is simply ridiculous—it's practically impossible to close.

        The Tu-22 is even smaller and has folding wings. It's very versatile in terms of shelters and airfields. Its main drawback is its limited hardpoints. While the Tu-95 carries 8 x 101 mm (X101 lbs), the Tu-160 12 x 101 mm (X101 lbs), the Tu-22 only carries 3 x 101 mm (X101 lbs) on 3 hardpoints. The Tu-22's main drawback is its outdated, small internal drum and short bomb bay.

        So, right now, we're using TU-22 Strategic Missiles to launch just three missiles at a range of 1,000 km with a 500 kg warhead... afraid to enter air defense coverage, and they're even being shot down near Crimea! A standard Iskander M can do similar launches at 1,000 km, and it's cheaper and stealthier! It could quietly drive out of its bunker into the forest, launch, and leave... but the TU-22 is highly visible and easily tracked. That's why the Ukrainians always know where it's taking off from and where it's about to strike. That's why I've been saying for a long time that the Su-34 needs to be equipped with the Kinzhal missile for a surprise strike!

        Clearly, a new Strategist aircraft is needed, and not as large as the Tu-160. Preferably with stealth technology and folding wings. It should have three external hardpoints for long-range missiles and bombs (up to the most powerful ones, such as the Betab 5,000-9,000, on the centerline) and an internal drum for at least six X101 bombs.
        It's clear it will be slightly larger than the Tu-22, but still much smaller than the Tu-160. The goal should be to accommodate older airfields.
        1. +1
          21 June 2026 18: 42
          Eight (eight is half!) Tu-160s were stationed in Western Ukraine. Obviously, this was all part of the English Channel Plan. It was a stroke of luck that they managed to pull out at least some of the Strategists. Just like they pulled out 500-odd X-55 missiles... They would have been helpful in a one-time strike in 2022, but no!

          It's certainly interesting – the Tu-160s can only park in Engels, near Saratov, where they could be smashed to pieces by Tomahawks from Turkey or the Mediterranean Sea. It's clear that the USSR didn't have the X-101 with its 5,500 km range, and the X-55 flew about 2,000 km and couldn't reach London, so they were parked in Lvov, but who would have let them take off?

          So, Engels was a good thing for the Americans. The Tu-95 didn't even have pylons, which isn't a small plane and wouldn't fit on every plane, but it was still smaller than the Tu-160. That's why the Americans closed our base near Alaska, Anadyr, in 2002, so we couldn't strike from there.
          And they banned the in-flight refueling system on the Tu-22 so that it couldn't fly to them from anywhere - it's smaller, so it has a bunch of airfields... from which it couldn't fly anywhere... all this was done specifically to pull out our teeth.
          And according to the agreement, we were forbidden from building shelters for the Strategists.
          Essentially, they've been besieged from all sides. Essentially, they've eliminated the Strategists from the game!

          It's obvious even to a fool that the Tu-160s need to be removed from Engels. What are they there for? We should build bases in Siberia, the East, and even the North. Because now we have a missile with the required range.
        2. 0
          23 June 2026 06: 46
          Want a joke: if you fold the Tu-160's wings on the ground, the plane tips over onto its tail. How about that? We'd need a huge hangar, too.
          1. 0
            23 June 2026 08: 15
            That's why the Tu-22 rules in everything...but a new one is needed.
        3. 0
          23 June 2026 08: 41
          Quote: Totor5
          The Tu-160 can only be accommodated in Engels, Saratov; the airfield in the East, unfinished in 1988, is essentially lost; the airfield near Lvov.

          And yet, let's clarify:
          - Why only Engels?
          - What airfield is in the East?
          - What airfield is near Lviv?
          Stop copying nonsense, try answering questions to make it clearer.
          Tu-160s were never "near Lviv," they were stationed in Pryluky, where this airfield is located; anyone can see for themselves on the map.
  21. 0
    21 June 2026 11: 05
    In 2019, Sergei Shoigu noted that the Long-Range Aviation "has achieved the planned number of operational strategic bombers." "Today, we can confidently say that the renewal of the existing Long-Range Aviation fleet and the development of new aircraft have significantly strengthened the air component of the nuclear triad," the head of the military department emphasized.
  22. +3
    21 June 2026 11: 14
    If the Tu-16s had not been cut up, they would still be flying and in better condition than most Tu-22M3s.
    1. +1
      21 June 2026 12: 35
      China continues to mass-produce the H-6, a heavily modernized version of the Tu-16. Currently, annual production is 10-20 aircraft. The total number of aircraft reaches approximately 250, roughly equal to the combined numbers of US and Russian bombers.
      1. 0
        21 June 2026 12: 57
        Moreover, the Tu-16 was the only bomber that could carry the FAB-9000.
    2. +3
      21 June 2026 14: 17
      Quote: Melior
      If the Tu-16s hadn't been cut up, they would still be flying and in better condition.

      Yes!
  23. +2
    21 June 2026 12: 04
    Let's correct the author: the youngest Tu-22M3 is 33 years old, not 43. But the fleet estimate seems very accurate—there's plenty of information online indicating that there are around 45 aircraft in service, a very small number of which are being upgraded to Tu-22M3Ms, while others are simply undergoing repairs. I think about 30 are actually combat-ready. In total, there are about a hundred long-range and strategic bombers remaining, of which about 75-80 are combat-ready. There's still something left to fight with. The striped ones have less than 130, and no one else has more.
  24. +2
    21 June 2026 12: 17
    In the article with the title
    What's up with Russian long-range aviation?

    For some reason, only the Tu-22 is being considered.
    The PAK DA project was shut down, or rather, Putin ordered it shut down, without really explaining why he decided to do so.

    Putin not only didn’t explain why he decided this, he didn’t even say anything about curtailing it.
    Most likely because, if he actually made such a decision, it would obviously be bad news, and he's not a "bad news man." But that's assuming the project was actually canceled.
    1. -2
      21 June 2026 14: 42
      Well, if it was cancelled in favor of building the Burevestniks, then that's right: with them, subsonic missile carriers become unnecessary.
  25. 0
    21 June 2026 13: 24
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Only back in 2008, the Georgians shot down one plane

    These were not Georgians.
    Ukrainian crews operated air defense systems that shot down Russian aircraft participating in the operation to force Georgia to peace, a source in the Russian military delegation told RIA Novosti on Wednesday at a meeting of the Air Defense Coordination Committee under the CIS Council of Defense Ministers.

    "According to our information, a Tu-22 long-range bomber and several Su-25 attack aircraft were shot down by S-200 and Tor anti-aircraft missile systems supplied by Ukraine to Georgia. Ukrainian crews were also operating the air defense systems," the agency's source said.
  26. +2
    21 June 2026 13: 28
    So much for the tales of the USSR's backwardness. Of the entire Union, only Russia and Belarus gave more than they received, ultimately feeding the other republics. The article states that 500 Tu-22s were built, and now we can't even repair the remaining ones, despite the republics' ballast having been mostly jettisoned. Have you realized the scale of the country's plunder? Well, it never ended.
    1. +2
      21 June 2026 15: 21
      Historically, long-range aviation was designed to deliver free-fall bombs, but the very feasibility of flying aircraft far beyond their own territory is currently highly questionable. While long-range aviation could certainly be used to launch cruise missiles, cruise missiles, like ballistic missiles, are more conveniently launched from ground-based launchers, which are on 24-hour combat readiness year-round, regardless of weather. Expensive aircraft, of which there are very few, require crews, secure airfields... the list goes on and on, all the things that aren't required to launch a missile from a ground launcher. Furthermore, long-range aircraft, due to their large size, are easily tracked from space. By comparison, launch containers with cruise missiles can be mounted on a truck, trailer, or a railway platform, which are essentially impossible to detect even when approached closely.
      1. 0
        21 June 2026 22: 38
        The Tu-22 is classified as a missile carrier and its main purpose is to launch the high-speed Kh-22 missile at a group of aircraft carriers in the ocean.

        The Tu-160 was a European air defense penetration aircraft, part of a squadron providing cover for nuclear strikes in World War III. Of course, this seems like nonsense now, but these ideas date back to the early 1970s, when no one had air defense.

        The Tu-95 is a pure bomber, but now it has been modernized and is essentially no worse than the Tu-160 if launched 5,000 km from the target.

        In conventional warfare, the Tu-22 is the most versatile, and has been used everywhere from Chechnya to Georgia. However, even there, it proved vulnerable to air defenses.
        We need a new Tu-22 class aircraft with stealth technology, but capable of carrying not only a 6×Kh101 drum internally, but also heavy Kh22 type missiles on the wings + heavy FAB-5000 type missiles on external hardpoints.
  27. -2
    21 June 2026 14: 55
    If there is a reserve for fuselages, then it makes sense to consider the possibility of re-engining with the NK-32, which is in serial production.
  28. +2
    21 June 2026 15: 52
    The service life of the rotating assembly of the consoles is ending - even after upgrading to the Tu-22M3M modification, the aircraft will have to be decommissioned in 5 years - the youngest aircraft is 32 years old.
  29. +2
    21 June 2026 16: 01
    Roman, the Tu-22M and Tu-22M3 are completely different aircraft. The Tu-22M was decommissioned about 30 years ago.
    Don't write about things you have no clue about. And tell the editor not to hire cheap migrant workers who can't tell a Tu-22M3 from an American F5 Tiger in a picture.
  30. +3
    21 June 2026 16: 02
    Quote: Mitrich73
    If there is a reserve for fuselages, then it makes sense to consider the possibility of re-engining with the NK-32, which is in serial production.

    Where will you get the "backlog"? Backlog means you have at least 20 units. No one will do R&D for the sake of 2-3 units with new engines.
  31. 0
    21 June 2026 16: 05
    Quote: igorra
    So much for the tales of the USSR's backwardness. Of the entire Union, only Russia and Belarus gave more than they received, ultimately feeding the other republics. The article states that 500 Tu-22s were built, and now we can't even repair the remaining ones, despite the republics' ballast having been mostly jettisoned. Have you realized the scale of the country's plunder? Well, it never ended.

    And Ukraine, with its mild climate, black soil, and population seven times larger than Belarus, didn't participate in feeding at all?
    1. -1
      21 June 2026 16: 40
      It didn't participate. Belarus was subsidized sometimes, sometimes not. Azerbaijan was always in the black. It has oil. That's understandable.
  32. +1
    21 June 2026 16: 34
    Kazan will swallow up any money. But no one will get an airplane from that factory.
  33. -1
    21 June 2026 16: 36
    It seems that most countries will now reconsider, in one way or another, the need for long-range aviation. No one can afford to keep such expensive aircraft on 24/7 duty. And everyone has plenty of ways to deliver nuclear suitcases without long-range aircraft.
  34. -1
    21 June 2026 16: 57
    Well, actually it's a good question.
    Why are there no engines!?
    After all, the same PD-8 works?
    But the fact that the emphasis is on missiles and drones, as well as electronic warfare and satellites, is a different matter.
    By the way, the PD-8 is just an example of the development of domestic developments; there are also more military models.
    and they even assembled the TU-160!?
    so in this direction "volitional" definitely works.
  35. 0
    21 June 2026 18: 49
    The tendency is that there will be more missiles in stock than there are aircraft that use them.
  36. -1
    21 June 2026 20: 11
    Quote: agond
    Historically, long-range aviation was designed to deliver free-fall bombs, but the very feasibility of flying aircraft far beyond their own territory is currently highly questionable. While long-range aviation could certainly be used to launch cruise missiles, cruise missiles, like ballistic missiles, are more conveniently launched from ground-based launchers, which are on 24-hour combat readiness year-round, regardless of weather. Expensive aircraft, of which there are very few, require crews, secure airfields... the list goes on and on, all the things that aren't required to launch a missile from a ground launcher. Furthermore, long-range aircraft, due to their large size, are easily tracked from space. By comparison, launch containers with cruise missiles can be mounted on a truck, trailer, or a railway platform, which are essentially impossible to detect even when approached closely.

    As Gorbachev said, "And that's right." One hour of B52 flight costs $88,000 today. I think the Tu-95's figures are about the same. Well, maybe a little lower. Although that's not a given. The Americans don't keep their data secret from the ordinary people who support their army.

    Regarding the railway platforms, I disagree with you. The famous "Barguzin" train with intercontinental ballistic missiles was pulled by two locomotives, and the carriages had four wheeled "bogies" instead of two. A piece of such a train is on display at the Railway Museum in St. Petersburg. The carriage certainly looks different from up close.
  37. 0
    21 June 2026 21: 20
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Quote: Vladimir M
    But it seems like before there was long-range aviation and strategic aviation with different types of aircraft.

    I can't go into detail about the history, but you're absolutely right that the DA and strategic aviation used to be different. But they were merged. hi

    They weren't different. There were three Long-Range Air Armies. One consisted of all variants of the Tu-95, Tu-160, M-3, and Il-78. The other two had Tu-16s, Tu-22s, Tu-22M2s, Tu-22M3s, and Su-24s. In the late 80s, the Su-24 regiments were removed from the Long-Range Air Arm, and two VAs were created, each with all Long-Range Air Arm types.
  38. +3
    21 June 2026 21: 30
    This is a consequence of the appointment of tank and combined arms generals to the Aerospace Forces Commander-in-Chief's position. The collapse of the flight safety system began precisely under tanker Surovikin. Now they've appointed an infantry general again. So there's nothing surprising about that.
  39. -2
    21 June 2026 23: 36
    I won't argue with the author about the numbers, but as for the engines, they wanted to install Tu-160 engines in them. The engine is still in production, and I believe at least one aircraft was upgraded.
    In general, the heavy bomber as a type is on the verge of extinction; its cost is prohibitive, and its effectiveness is highly questionable. Wouldn't it be simpler to follow the American path and create a cruise missile carrier based on a transport aircraft? With a launch range of up to 5000 km, no air defense system can threaten it. The Il-76, for example, can carry two to three times more missiles than any strategic bomber, at a fraction of the cost.
    1. -1
      22 June 2026 00: 42
      All we need is a new aircraft the same size as the Tu-22, with Tu-160 engines and avionics, to replace all the old ones. One internal drum for six X101 missiles is sufficient, plus external hardpoints for X22s and Kab-5000 bombs or additional fuel tanks.

      The Tu-160 is too large and expensive and cannot be based on regular old airfields, which destroys its advantages compared to the Tu-95 and especially the Tu-22.
  40. 0
    22 June 2026 01: 57
    There are many prophecies these days about a war with Europe in 2030. The question is: how will the Russian Air Force fight the enemy in this scenario, since even with the best will in the world, the necessary aircraft fleet won't be available in four years? And there don't seem to be any old Hottabychs in sight, capable of creating anything their heart desires out of thin air. No.
  41. +1
    22 June 2026 11: 04
    Don't worry, we've had so many forums and summits where our leader has fed us so much optimistic nonsense that there are no strategic bombers and everything is fine.
  42. +1
    22 June 2026 15: 18
    Quote: qqqq
    I agree, everything now resembles feudalism. Although, in my opinion, we have a plutocracy. A plutocracy is a form of government in which political power is effectively concentrated in the hands of a small group of the wealthiest citizens or economic elites.

    No, it's not a plutocracy, we have a kleptocracy—rule by thieves. And capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with it. In the US, Germany, Great Britain, Japan, France—everywhere capitalism reigns supreme, and nothing matters. Research and development is underway, factories are running, and there are strong armies...
    So it's not about capitalism as such. It means we have some kind of wrong kind of capitalism, or maybe not capitalism at all, but something else entirely.
    Then the question is: what do we have?
    Let's try to answer: rampant corruption, kickbacks, nepotism, theft of everything and everyone...
    What could this be??? In my opinion, it is precisely kleptocracy - the rule of thieves!
  43. 0
    22 June 2026 18: 02
    What's wrong with our supersonic spirit carriers?
  44. 0
    26 June 2026 08: 13
    [QuoteWhat's up with Russian long-range aviation?] [/ Quote]
    It's the same as with the whole country: "we're falling according to plan."
  45. 0
    28 June 2026 10: 13
    Basically, I have an idea for how to increase the range of any aircraft, including strategic bombers, by at least 10 percent without upgrading the engine or fuel. I just don't want to announce it to the world, to my enemies.
  46. 0
    29 June 2026 12: 21
    Quote: bayard
    The Su-34M2, with a slightly larger airframe and Izdeliye-177 or even AL-51F-1 engines, could serve as the initial MPA aircraft, carrying the airborne version of the Zircon (plus RVV) with a combat radius of approximately 2500 km. Such an aircraft could be produced relatively quickly and easily by the mid-30s. The same aircraft could also serve as a "Eurostrategic" bomber, carrying the Kinzhal, Zircon, and a host of other anti-aircraft missiles for the European (and other) theater of operations.


    My God, what nonsense. I recognize the fledglings of Timokhin's nest with his "MRA from the Su-34." The Su-34 is a carrier of cast iron, a frontline bomber with titanium armor against small arms fire, ground-attack radar, and a targeting system for unguided bombs. All this is unnecessary, neither over sea nor, against a serious enemy, even over land. Just as a specialized MRA is basically unnecessary. Build multirole fighters like the Su-57, if you really want to add hardpoints to them, that's enough. Everything further down the line should be replaced by the Pak-DA, a domestic analogue of the B-21. Nothing in between is needed anymore.
    In general, manned aviation is becoming obsolete, including long-range aviation.
  47. 0
    30 June 2026 08: 09
    It's painful to read... If similar cataclysms are happening to the Strategic Missile Forces, then it's a disaster. This is the result of the work of effective managers who have been in charge for the last 30 years.
  48. 0
    1 July 2026 05: 17
    There's metal fatigue on the Tu-22M3's wing rotator. And it's completely beyond repair. The engines might even outlive these devices.
  49. 0
    1 July 2026 05: 35
    Quote: Schneeberg
    Quote: Saburov_Alexander53
    Do we need long-range aviation with its cost just to launch cruise missiles from an aircraft?
    In case of political tension in the world, such machines can hang in the air for hours, changing their location and waiting for a command to
    launch, causing headaches for the enemy's general staff. The same applies to submarines

    Have you ever wondered how much an hour of this kind of hanging around costs? Especially when the budget is already in the red.
  50. 0
    1 July 2026 05: 36
    Quote: squid
    Quote: bayard
    The Su-34M2, with a slightly larger airframe and Izdeliye-177 or even AL-51F-1 engines, could serve as the initial MPA aircraft, carrying the airborne version of the Zircon (plus RVV) with a combat radius of approximately 2500 km. Such an aircraft could be produced relatively quickly and easily by the mid-30s. The same aircraft could also serve as a "Eurostrategic" bomber, carrying the Kinzhal, Zircon, and a host of other anti-aircraft missiles for the European (and other) theater of operations.


    My God, what nonsense. I recognize the fledglings of Timokhin's nest with his "MRA from the Su-34." The Su-34 is a carrier of cast iron, a frontline bomber with titanium armor against small arms fire, ground-attack radar, and a targeting system for unguided bombs. All this is unnecessary, neither over sea nor, against a serious enemy, even over land. Just as a specialized MRA is basically unnecessary. Build multirole fighters like the Su-57, if you really want to add hardpoints to them, that's enough. Everything further down the line should be replaced by the Pak-DA, a domestic analogue of the B-21. Nothing in between is needed anymore.
    In general, manned aviation is becoming obsolete, including long-range aviation.

    The domestic equivalent of the B21. Are you serious?
  51. 0
    1 July 2026 05: 43
    The Chinese seem much smarter these days. They're churning out hundreds of hyper-cheap Tu-16s with new engines, new avionics, and four cruise missiles with a range of 2,000 to 2,500 kilometers.
    And right next door is a poorly armed neighbor with a vast, uninhabited territory and rich mineral resources. It's already wagging its tail tenderly, looking you in the eye, and ready to supply these mineral resources for next to nothing.