Oreshnik: How an Intercontinental Missile Stage Becomes a Medium-Range Missile

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Oreshnik: How an Intercontinental Missile Stage Becomes a Medium-Range Missile


Intercontinental rocket It's common to think of the medium-range missile as two different products: different classes, different missions, different entries in the manuals. But from an engineering perspective, they're sometimes the same missile, with the lower stage simply removed. The "Oreshnik" missile, which has been the subject of ongoing discussion in the press and expert circles since late 2024, is interesting not because of its headlines, but because it reveals the half-century-old habit of one design school of treating stages like building blocks. This habit predates the missile system itself by fifty years.



A step as a construction set part


To understand why an intercontinental missile can be so easily "compressed" to a medium-range capability, we need to remember the difference between solid and liquid propellants. A liquid engine requires tanks and pumps: the rocket must be fueled, the oxidizer and fuel are separate, and the entire system requires maintenance. A solid propellant stage is simpler. The propellant charge is poured directly into the body, and the nozzle is already installed. Essentially, it's a pre-loaded unit that can be stored assembled for decades and fired on command.

Hence, the key feature is modularity. If each stage is self-sufficient, they can be assembled as sections. Two stages provide a shorter range, three, a longer one. Removing the lower, most powerful stage of an intercontinental missile (the one that provides the main boost) results in a loss of range, but a working product with the same propulsion core. This is a reconfiguration of an already proven system, not a development from scratch.

It sounds like a theory. But that's exactly what they did in the mid-1970s. According to open sources, the two upper stages of the intercontinental complex Temp-2S They put it on a wheeled tractor and got a medium-range ballistic missile. That's how the Pioneer was born. Oreshnik didn't invent this technique; it inherited it.


RSD-10 "Pioneer": the standard of reception


RSD-10 "Pioneer", accepted into service in 1976, was developed at the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering under the leadership of chief designer Alexander Nadiradze. It's a two-stage solid-fuel missile on a self-propelled launcher, and, according to open sources, it's the same two upper stages of the Temp-2S intercontinental ballistic missile. This is a case where the relationship between the two missiles is clearly evident in the stage configuration and arrangement.

According to open data, the key characteristics of Pioneer are as follows:
  • Range – 4500 km; for the Pioneer-UTTKh modification – up to 5500 km.
  • Circular error probable is 550–600 m.
  • The warhead is separable, three charges of 150 kt each, or a monoblock.
  • The base is mobile, on a multi-axle tractor.

By 1970s standards, the accuracy was high. But "by 1970s standards" isn't just politeness: a circular error of half a kilometer means the missile was designed to carry a nuclear warhead, where a miss of a few hundred meters is insignificant. Such accuracy only makes sense for a nuclear warhead: hitting a hardened point target with a conventional warhead with such an error is no longer possible. The Pioneer was a nuclear warhead optimized for large targets. It was up to the task, and it wasn't required to hit hardened point targets.

The numbers are secondary here. More important is the precedent itself: an intercontinental missile stage had already once become an independent medium-range ballistic missile (IRBM), without requiring separate development. The only question then was whether the school would maintain this approach—a topic discussed in the next section.


RSD-10 Pioneer mobile ground-based missile system (PGRK) (NATO classification: SS-20)

MIT School: Why the Line Hasn't Been Broken


These kinds of practices rely on people, not just drawings. Biographical essays about the Moscow Institute of Thermal Engineering repeatedly highlight one detail: young engineers there were drawn into real-life experimental design work from a young age, from calculating individual components to leading a department. This is how experience, not formalized in drawings, was passed down from generation to generation along with the people, rather than remaining in documents that are easily lost as eras change. This continuity of living knowledge bearers can be considered the main reason why the school survived the collapse of the USSR without losing its tradition.

The second reason is the tendency to design with a "reserve." Strength, temperature, and weight were specified not for the current task, but for possible future ones. A universal solution can be retrieved from the archives twenty years later and adapted to a new project precisely because it was designed with redundancy in mind from the start.

And so the line stretches. From Topol to Topol-M and Yars, and from them to the intermediate "Frontier" (RS-26), and further to the family to which the Oreshnik belongs. Modern MIT systems are associated with the name of Yuri Solomonov, who headed the institute in the post-Soviet period. And here, a disclaimer is necessary: ​​the direct connection between Rubezh and Oreshnik has not been confirmed in official documents; it is based on open sources and analytical reconstructions. The line appears continuous, but some of its links are reconstructions, not references.


RS-24 Yars

"Oreshnik": Same technique, new generation


What's known for certain about the Oreshnik missile is a short list. It's a mobile medium-range ballistic missile, likely based on the RS-26/Yars, according to publicly available data, which is the same solid-fuel MIT design. The estimated range is up to 5500 km, the upper limit of its class. The stated speed is Mach 10-11. Beyond that, it's all about estimates, and caution is essential.

According to reconstructions, the missile carries up to six warheads, each capable of discharging up to six submunitions, meaning a maximum payload of up to 36 submunitions (warheads and submunitions are referred to differently in different publications, leading to discrepancies in the final figures). Russian sources cite the submunition temperature as approximately 4000°C, penetration of up to 30 meters of concrete, and the total yield in the nuclear configuration as up to 900 kt. None of these figures have been independently confirmed. They cannot be presented as established fact: these are the stated characteristics, nothing more.

Let's talk specifically about the language surrounding the system. "Hypersonic breakthrough" and "uninterceptable" sound impressive, but the warhead of any medium-range ballistic missile reenters the atmosphere at hypersonic speeds. In this sense, the Pioneer was also "hypersonic," but that wasn't the term used half a century ago. The grandiose language here makes the mundane seem unique: the novelty of the Oreshnik isn't its high speed itself (every IRBM has that), but its payload configuration, if the reconstructions are accurate.

The system has already seen combat use: the first launch against a real target took place in late 2024, and by 2025–2026, the system was deployed in Russia and Belarus. This is the context of its deployment, not the subject of this analysis: we are interested in the engineering.

So it's not about the big numbers, half of which are still up in the air. The point is that the basics haven't changed: a solid-fuel "core," modular stages, a mobile towing vehicle. As long as this foundation and the habit of assembling a rocket from prefabricated sections exist, each new configuration is a matter of reconfiguration, not a breakthrough. The question is: where does this "designer" reach its limit, beyond which the old foundations are no longer sufficient and a truly new "core" must be designed? Open sources don't yet answer this question.
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  2. +8
    28 June 2026 05: 22
    No one has ever seen a hazelnut in person, but they somehow know which stage they removed. I heard that they actually replaced the upper one with more warheads.
    Russian sources put the temperature of the elements at around 4000°C.
    Is this the entire block made of hafnium carbide? How do you even measure the temperature at the nose in the plasma?
    penetration of up to 30 meters of concrete
    I doubt the small "BOPs" were designed to penetrate bunkers. They're more likely to hit area targets under multiple roofs, like a factory. Hitting the Foley oil refinery would be a dream come true!
    And for bunkers, there should be heavy explosive-filled warheads and non-hot reinforcement bars, which can only destroy the bunker if they hit something fire-hazardous.

    In general, the article seems to have been written for the sake of the article, there is practically no content
    1. +4
      28 June 2026 08: 35
      Increasing the number of warheads (payload) leads to a decrease in the limitation period.

      No, that's the temperature in the surface layer. Hafnium—what's the point? Tungsten carbide. Temperature can be measured remotely using spectral analysis.

      Well, you don't have to use small "bops." Small, medium, or large options are possible... it depends on the specific situation.
      Destroying bunkers is entirely possible without explosives. Upon contact with the target, kinetic energy is converted into thermal energy, which, combined with mechanical penetration, ensures a lethal effect. The idea is quite old and quite reliable in terms of implementation.
      1. 0
        28 June 2026 13: 38
        Increasing the number of warheads (payload) leads to a decrease in the limitation period.
        Who would have thought, what a twist! laughing
        Temperature can be measured remotely using spectral analysis.
        the plasma temperature will be noticeably higher than 4K
        Kinetic energy will be converted into thermal energy upon contact with the target.
        Why? The rebar will go right through. Is there a lot of damage to the tank from the APFSDS? For everything to be transferred to heat, there needs to be a 5.45mm bullet effect with a flip and sudden deceleration.
        1. 0
          28 June 2026 13: 58
          The plasma is above 4 K, while the fragmentation element is still lower. The exact value can be calculated if the plasma temperature, plasma density, and the density and heat capacity of the fragmentation element's material are known.

          What if the rebar doesn't pass through, if it gets stuck in the target and stops completely? Or if attacked from above, will it pass right through the entire planet? There will still be braking, complete braking. And the speed is higher than that of a tank's APFSDS round, as is the mass. The analogy isn't entirely apt.

          A successful hit will cause significant damage to the tank from the BOPSA (fuel tank, engine, and ammunition, among other things). It'll be a small hole on the outside, but inside...
          1. 0
            28 June 2026 14: 13
            Quote: Illanatol
            The plasma is above 4 K, while the fragmentation element is still lower. The exact value can be calculated if the plasma temperature, plasma density, and the density and heat capacity of the fragmentation element's material are known.

            This is all just empty talk, no one cares about the temperature of the edges at the moment of evaporation.
            Quote: Illanatol
            What if the rebar doesn't go all the way through, if it gets stuck in the target and stops completely?

            It will transfer the remaining energy to whatever it gets stuck in. For example, the bunker floor or the rock underneath it.
            Quote: Illanatol
            Yes, and the speed is higher than that of a tank APFSDS, as is the weight.

            In general, there is a problem with APFSDS that once they reach 2 km/s, their armor penetration stops increasing. request
            Quote: Illanatol
            If the hit is successful, the tank will suffer quite a lot of damage from the BOPSA (fuel tank, engine, ammunition, and finally)

            Well, if there's an ammo rack and a barrel of diesel fuel in the bunker's path, then yes, that's what I wrote. But if it's a room with fans, food, or just a corridor, then the blast radius will be roughly the same as the length of the APC.
            1. 0
              29 June 2026 13: 24
              If there is no case, what is the point of discussing it?

              Transfer of kinetic energy with transformation into heat = explosion!

              What makes you think armor penetration is so important? The "Hazelnut" isn't shooting at tanks. It can penetrate concrete walls, and then thermal blasts (after all, it has a lot of projectiles).

              Yeah, a metal rod weighing tens of kilograms, heated to several thousand degrees, receives additional heat, which turns it into a cloud of red-hot metallic vapor (suspension), which expands in volume many times over, which simply means an explosion... Are you sure you'd want to be anywhere near that? But if this rod were made of depleted uranium (combat production, not experimental, and will be made from uranium), which burns beautifully in powdered form, it would be a real treat for the enemy.
    2. +7
      28 June 2026 08: 58
      No one has ever seen a hazelnut tree in real life, but they somehow know what stage they removed from it.
      +++++++
      I'll tell you more. 99,9 percent of rocket commentators (all rockets, from small to large) haven't seen one. (Me either.) 90 percent haven't even launched a homemade rocket made from a cigar cylinder and celluloid. 80 percent don't understand the principle of rocket propulsion. But in the age of Wikipedia and Zen, that's not a problem. :)
      The main thing is to write a comment.
      1. +1
        28 June 2026 12: 54
        Still, some people have some idea about missiles. They're former officers from missile battalions. Even I, a sergeant in an operational missile battery, understand the entire launch process: from geographic location of the launch site, target acquisition, and even liftoff. We were even taught the design and operating principles of a liquid-propellant rocket.
      2. 0
        29 June 2026 10: 46
        Quote: Grim Reaper
        About 90 percent didn't even launch a homemade rocket made from a cigar cylinder and celluloid.

        Does a pneumatic-hydraulic rocket count? The kind you first fill with water, then pump air into, flip upright, and release the stopper? wink
    3. 0
      28 June 2026 12: 48
      So, the "old missile" isn't highly accurate after all. Would a non-nuclear version scatter a multitude of "crowbars" across the area? The only solution is to equip it with nuclear warheads. These are just some of the guesses.
      1. 0
        28 June 2026 13: 39
        Quite possible, given the range and size of the target. A conventional version would be area-based, but most nuclear warhead targets are also area-based, not pinpoint. And the use of multiple warheads provides a higher probability of hitting the target.
        There are and will be both nuclear and non-nuclear "nuts," which is rational. The Yankees, by the way, also consider this approach rational and are creating (or have created) their own equivalents.
      2. 0
        28 June 2026 13: 40
        It's not the missile that provides accuracy, but the warheads; the missile only sets the trajectory
        1. 0
          29 June 2026 13: 29
          No. In this case, it's a missile. The division into these units occurs immediately before hitting the target, when the missile is already descending. The division is gradual, first into several warheads (at this stage, corrections are possible), and then the warheads release the rods in batches. It's also possible to equip the warhead with a hypersonic warhead, which performs a controlled, active flight until the very end, increasing accuracy and reducing the possibility of interception by missile defense systems to zero.
          1. 0
            29 June 2026 14: 23
            The rocket burns for a couple of minutes, then it's just a correction. And in Orechensk, separation doesn't begin after descent, but after the final stage burns. Or do you consider the booster stage a rocket, too, and the old Soviet one at that?
          2. 0
            7 July 2026 09: 19
            Как я понял, орешник тем и отличается, что разделение блоков происходит сразу после преодоления атмосферы, а не непосредственно перед поражением цели. То есть разгонное время не позволяет перехватить носитель на этапе разгона еще и за счет более крутой баллистики. Короткий разгонный этап, выход за атмосферу, затем разделение, вероятно на 6 блоков, ну и возможно ещё на 6 частей каждый блок делится уже несколько позже. То есть на начальном разгонном этапе перехватить, как к примеру межконтинентальную ракету, у которой он пологий, просто не хватит времени, а после того как блоки разделились, сделать это существующими средствами уже невозможно. Думаю вся фишка в этом, а не из чего и как его скомпоновали.
    4. +1
      28 June 2026 13: 39
      Quote from alexoff
      the article seems to have been written for the sake of the article, there is practically no content

      The "author" was simply lazy and ordered an article on a flawed version of AI with a level of presentation "for mentally retarded teenagers under 10 years of age."
      The author has nothing to do with it. He was just LAZY.
      1. +1
        29 June 2026 03: 12
        The author didn't even bother asking the AI ​​to check the grammar. "Penetration" and "irrelevant" are something else.
  3. +3
    28 June 2026 05: 42
    Actually, in 1976, accuracy was already down to a deviation of no more than 300 meters. That was a C. A C was down to a deviation of no more than 50 meters. The targets were Kamchatka, Novaya Zemlya, and the Pacific Ocean. UR-100 Stiletto. One and a half megatons.
    1. +3
      28 June 2026 10: 33
      And yet, to be fair, the deviation for an "excellent" missile could not have been more than 50 meters in 1976. Too many factors influence the accuracy of a missile - from the missile design to external meteorological conditions (in the launch area, flight trajectory, in the target area).
      Even for artillery, when firing at a range of more than 10000 m (meters), the VD was more than 60 meters.
    2. +4
      28 June 2026 13: 15
      Quote: V.
      In 1976, the accuracy was already down to a deviation of no more than 300 meters. This was awarded a C. A C was awarded for a deviation of no more than 50 meters.

      There was no such accuracy (CEP - 50 m), even in the late 80s, don't make things up. For the Molodets ICBM, the CEP (circular error probable) was 250 m for each of their 10 nuclear warheads. Information from the chief designer of the booster stage of this missile in a personal conversation. At the same time, the US declared a CEP of 110 m for MX ICBMs (in the late 80s, during a series of tests. The most recent tests showed a CEP of 90 m, but that's just a declaration; the US liked to attribute inflated performance characteristics to its products. Today, the accuracy characteristics for ICBMs and IRBMs have become significantly higher, perhaps even up to 50 m for ICBMs.
      Quote: V.
      The targets were Kamchatka, Novaya Zemlya, the Pacific Ocean. UR-100 "Stiletto". One and a half megatons.

      This accuracy could have been achieved in a single test or as a result of the arrival of one of the six warheads, if it was the UR-100UTTKh stiletto. Its accuracy/CEP was approximately 350-250 meters. Earlier versions with a single warhead had lower accuracy, but within 500 meters.
      For reference, the KVO is calculated after collecting statistics for the block that deviated the most from the aiming point. You're probably talking about the block that landed most successfully of all the launches.
      1. 0
        28 June 2026 14: 47
        I served in a Strategic Missile Forces regiment, in a launch group. And whenever a regiment from a division conducted training launches, they would announce their marks for target engagement. A circular error beyond 300 meters was rare. Typically, marks of 5 or 4 were awarded. The combat duty regiments fought for accuracy; they earned orders, medals, and promotions. Some had never launched a missile in twenty-five years of service. It was like winning the lottery. hi
  4. -2
    28 June 2026 06: 36
    So, it turns out there's nothing new, and the Oreshnik is a modernization of the old Soviet Pioneer. Well, at least they managed to do it.
    1. +2
      28 June 2026 13: 34
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      It turns out there is nothing new, and the Oreshnik is a modernization of the old Soviet Pioneer

      No, it's just that the author, who doesn't even know the basics of this topic, was tasked with "writing something," but was too lazy and ordered the AI ​​to scribble it down, with the caveat "for children under 10." Otherwise, such a text, filled with naivety, platitudes, tongue-tiedness, and incompetence... couldn't be composed.
      The Oreshnik is a heavy IRBM based on the Rubezh ICBM without the third booster stage, with a range of 5500-6000 km and six 150-megaton warheads. It also uses only the first stage of the Rubezh ICBM, with a range of up to 2000 m, and 36 nuclear warheads with a yield of up to 150 kilotons. All of this was already discussed on forums shortly after the first combat use of this IRBM with inert warheads at Yuzhmash.
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Thanks, at least you were able to do this.

      Not only that, there will be other new products. Maybe when it comes to the Rubezh itself, but right now the Yars is more relevant, and perhaps a more advanced version (I think it's codenamed "Kedr") will follow soon. But right now, both heavy and light IRBMs are the most relevant. The light class already includes the Iskander-1000 with a range of 1200-1300 km, and a two-stage version of the Iskander-M with a range of 2000-2500 km may soon appear, as well as the Zircon GC with a more powerful booster and a range of 2000-2500 km. It's not difficult; all the necessary components are available and are being mass-produced.
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      Thanks, at least this

      Not only that, but there's also a whole line of new short-, medium-, and long-range cruise missiles. The longest-range cruise missile, the BD VB, has a range of 7500 km. The sea- and land-based Kalibr-M cruise missile (650 mm in diameter) also has a range of 7500 km, with a nuclear warhead yield of up to 2 megatons (physical package/nuclear warhead weight 400 kg). Both of these BD cruise missiles are already in service.
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      there is nothing new

      request You probably know better.
      1. +2
        28 June 2026 15: 49
        Oreshnik is a modernization of the old Soviet Pioneer

        Modernization means improving something in hardware or metal. The Pioneers were scrapped under Gorbachev, in accordance with the agreement. Even if Pioneer were put back into production, it would be a different rocket, as factory technologies and design schools change.
        1. +1
          28 June 2026 16: 30
          Exactly. Although they are similar ideologically and in terms of class (heavy-duty medium-range ballistic missiles with multiple nuclear warheads). And both are on a wheeled, unpaved transport hub base.
      2. +1
        28 June 2026 16: 24
        Quote: bayard
        The range of the sea- and land-based cruise missile "Kalibr-M" (diameter 650 mm.)
        Hasn't this caliber of torpedo tubes become obsolete? It was used on second- and third-generation submarines, but new submarines apparently no longer have this caliber.
        Or I'm wrong ?
        1. +1
          28 June 2026 17: 20
          These cruise missiles (650 mm in diameter) were created specifically to arm modernized Soviet-built SSNs. But nothing in principle prevents the installation of such cruise missiles and launch cells of surface ships, as well as vertical launch systems, on prospective SSNs and non-nuclear submarines in the future. The same Yasen could easily carry such missiles, and even prospective non-nuclear submarines. They were shown again at the exhibition; after the adoption of the Lada non-nuclear submarine on the submarine submarine submarine, this would be a very interesting solution - a small and VERY quiet, low-observable non-nuclear submarine with 10 vertical launch systems (Onyx, Zircon, Kalibr, Kalibr-M) and 18 torpedoes and cruise missiles launched through a standard (533 mm) TA. With an endurance of 60 days and an underwater endurance of at least 15 days (for the lead Lada).
          Soviet-built submarines (Projects 971, 945, and 949) could have as many as 12 of these Kalibr-M submarines. They could even fire off the entire US West Coast from their bases in Kamchatka. In any case, Pioneer submarines from bases in Chukotka (with a range of 5500 km) would guarantee coverage of the entire US West Coast. In principle, they could reach the US from literally the middle of the Pacific Ocean. This gives them a great deal of flexibility in choosing combat patrol locations.
          Moreover, such cruise missiles can be installed on ground-based launchers, say, from the Bastion missile system, since they have roughly the same dimensions and launch weight as the Oniks. On surface ships (when we finally get them), such cruise missiles could also prove quite useful due to their extremely long range, eliminating the need to make a special forced march to the launch line and avoiding the need to be dangerously close to a potential enemy, while still keeping them within guaranteed range. In short, they're definitely not useless. And that's not even mentioning the possibility of covert seabed deployment of such missiles.

          But somehow, modernizing Soviet-built submarines didn't go well—it turned out to be much more complicated and expensive than expected. So, far fewer submarines will be modernized than planned. It's more cost-effective to build new ones. hi
          1. +1
            28 June 2026 19: 49
            Quote: bayard
            Such BD cruise missile launchers can also be installed on unpaved transport hubs, say, from the Bastion missile complex, since they have approximately the same dimensions and takeoff weight as the Onyxes.

            Cruise missiles with pulsejet engines have approximately the same dimensions as, for example, the V-1 cruise missile.
            The figure shows a diesel-detonation valveless pulse jet engine (DPuVRD) with an internal coaxial air intake.
            Advantages of a diesel-detonation valveless ramjet with an internal coaxial air intake:
            - Increased efficiency of diesel-detonation pulsejet.
            - Increased reliability and long service life due to the absence of quickly burnt-out valves.
            - Convenient for maintenance arrangement of combustion chamber nozzles KS№4, used for direct-flow mode:
            Injectors KS No. 4 are located next to the injectors for the diesel combustion chamber KS No. 1.
            Injectors KS No. 2,3 are located in sections 1-1,2-2,3-3.
            Injectors KS No. 1,4 are located in section 4-4.
            Differences from previous versions of the DPuVRD: the exhaust nozzle of the combustion chamber KS№2 is shorter in length than the exhaust nozzle of KS№3.
            - The air in CS #1 is compressed (adiabatically or shock-wise) by the pressure of the exhaust gases flowing out of CS #2 and CS #3 after the simultaneous initiation of combustion and/or detonation waves in CS2 and CS3, directed from CS2 and CS3 both towards the exhaust nozzles and towards CS1.
            After the fuel injected into KS1 has burned, the exhaust from KS1 passes simultaneously through KS2 and KS3, into their nozzles. A vacuum is created in the long exhaust nozzle of KS #3.
            Due to the pressure differential (the pressure in the long nozzle of KS3 is lower than the pressure in the air intake), KS2, KS1, and KS3 are purged with fresh air in a reverse direction through the short exhaust nozzle of KS2. Fresh air then flows from KS2 to KS1 and then to KS3.
            Notes:
            - Serrations on the air intake and nozzles - for sound attenuation and reduction of radar signature.
            Supersonic missiles approach their target silently. The shock wave arrives after they've arrived (or flown) overhead.
            Cruise missiles (CM) equipped with such diesel-detonation valveless pulsejet engines are less expensive, for example, compared to the Tsirkon hypersonic missile.
            But, unlike the Zircon, they are capable of flying not only at high altitudes of 10..30 km in the ramjet mode,
            but also at low altitude (like the V-1) along riverbeds, in pulsejet mode, while having a greater range compared to the V-1 due to the increased efficiency of the diesel-detonation valveless pulsejet. The launch of cruise missiles with a DPJE is carried out in pulsejet mode from a catapult (like the V-1) or with the help of powder boosters. After reaching a speed of 800-900 km/h and an altitude of 8-10 km, the DPJE switches to ramjet mode and increases the flight altitude to 30-40 km. Then they either dive on the target or descend to low altitudes of about 10-100 m and sneak up on the target out of radar visibility.
  5. 0
    28 June 2026 07: 00
    Oh, the author is under investigation for disclosing state secrets. What if the enemy reads VO? lol
  6. +3
    28 June 2026 08: 41
    What we know for sure about the Oreshnik is short. It's a ballistic missile.
    + + + + +
    And nothing more!
    All other "expert" speculation about range, speed, and payload is pure fantasy. It's a matter of preference and fear.
    1. +5
      28 June 2026 09: 18
      I never comment on topics I don't understand. Only on energy-related topics (I worked there for 15 years). And even then, only when the insanity is off the charts.
      But the sheer number of experts on VO seriously discussing substations, bridges, tactics and strategy, oil refineries, the achievements of modern science, flights to the moon, economics, aviation, crop prospects, etc. is simply off the charts.
      As a rule, these are the same people?!
      There are a few people on the site who write interesting articles and leave engaging comments in their own fields. They don't interfere with others (well, except for general chatter, and even then, rarely).
      At this point, you mentally divided the site's population into "those worthy of carriages and those unworthy" and placed yourself on the appropriate side. :)
  7. 0
    29 June 2026 11: 09
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: Grim Reaper
    About 90 percent didn't even launch a homemade rocket made from a cigar cylinder and celluloid.

    Does a pneumatic-hydraulic rocket count? The kind you first fill with water, then pump air into, flip upright, and release the stopper? wink

    Fig yourself.
    You beat me to the punch when it comes to technology. :)))
  8. 0
    29 June 2026 18: 30
    A liquid engine is all about tanks and pumps: the rocket needs to be refueled, the oxidizer and fuel are separate, and the entire system requires maintenance.
    - ampoules. As in "Sineva".
  9. 0
    29 June 2026 22: 37
    Quote: Alexey Lantukh
    Still, some people have some idea about missiles. They're former officers from missile battalions. Even I, a sergeant in an operational missile battery, understand the entire launch process: from geographic location of the launch site, target acquisition, and even liftoff. We were even taught the design and operating principles of a liquid-propellant rocket.

    You hit that 0,1 percent. I didn't say it was everyone.
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    7 July 2026 18: 01
    Пока больше рекламы, чем дел. Попали в конце 2024 по Южмашу, а в этом году прилично промазали - типа тренировались по сараю. Хорошая такая тренировка стоимостью в 1 - 2 млрд рублей, если не больше. Этого оружия в реальности пока нет. Автор прав - переделали в режиме конструктора большую ракету в меньшую. Но главный вопрос открыт: РСД входили в атмосферу на гиперзвуке, далее шло торможение боевых блоков до 5-6М - и тут вполне уже можно и перехватить. Про Орешник заявляют 10-11 Махов - но где? В космосе, куда он выходит, у него легко это будет и больше. Или это встреча ББ с целью. Если последнее - действительно не перехватишь, нет такого оружия. Но как тогда удвоилась скорость по сравнению с Пионером? Должен быть некий дополнительный блок, иначе никак. Тогда получается, что Орешник = Пионер + Некий блок доразгона. Или все это не так, и просто ББ более совершенные и их больше. На видео, когда кошмарили Южмаш, ББ прибывали скорее на 5 Махах, чем на 10. Отдельный вопрос - стоимость. Цен конечно никто не объявит, но по сети гуляют цифры 1 - 2 млрд за ракету. Плюсом идут боевые блоки, пусковая установка, разведка, операция по развертыванию и прикрытию, охрана, ПВО, и тд - еще дороже. Стрелять таким оружием по сараям - ну, это уже беспредел. Думаю, стреляли на по сараю, в сарай попали. Причина кроется в том, возможно, что после Южмаша, когда ББ прибыли на пяти махах, в этом году попробовали с тем таинственным разгонным блоком, что я выше упоминал. А тут другие скорости и вообще - плазма. Видимо наведение и не случилось. Хотя я и допускаю, что промазали не 5 километров , а один. В любом случае, массового применения этого оружия не будет, в базовой версии с 5 Махами плясуны научатся блоки сбивать, а новая версия, как это при нынешней власти принято (Армата, Посейдон, Checkmate, ПАК ДА, А-100 Премьер и тд) скорее всего все еще на стадии разработки. Ну и цена пуска конечно. В неядерном исполнении.