Combat aircraft and air defense of the "Land of the Rising Sun"

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As of the beginning of 2012, the strength of the Japan Self-Defense Forces Air Force was about 43 700 people. The aircraft fleet includes about 700 airplanes and main types of helicopters, of which the number of tactical and multipurpose fighters is about 260 units, light training / attack aircraft - around 200, DRLO aircraft - 17, radio reconnaissance aircraft and EW - 7, strategic tankers - 4 , military transport aircraft - 44.

Tactical fighter F-15J (160 pcs.) A single all-weather version of the F-15 fighter for the Japanese Air Force, manufactured from 1982 by Mitsubishi under license.



Structurally similar to the F-15 fighter, but has a simplified EW equipment. F-15DJ (42) is a further development of F-15J

F-2A / B (39 / 32pcs.) - A multipurpose fighter developed by Mitsubishi and Lockheed Martin for the Japan Self-Defense Air Force.


F-2A fighter, snapshot taken in December 2012. from the board of the Russian intelligence Tu-214P


F-2 was intended primarily to replace the third-generation Mitsubishi F-1 fighter-bomber - according to experts, unsuccessful, having an insufficient range and low combat load variations on the theme of SEPECAT "Jaguar". The appearance of the F-2 aircraft was greatly influenced by the American design of the General Dynamic “Edgayl Falcon” - a slightly larger and more maneuverable version of the F-16 “Flying Falcon” aircraft. Although the Japanese aircraft looks very similar to its American counterpart, it should be considered a new aircraft that differs from the prototype is not only differences in the design of the airframe, but also used structural materials, onboard systems, electronics and weapons. Compared to the American machine, perspective composite materials are much more widely used in the design of the Japanese fighter, which ensured a decrease in the relative weight of the airframe. In general, the design of the Japanese aircraft is simpler, lighter and more technological than the F-16.

F-4EJ Kai (60 pcs.) - Multipurpose fighter.


The Japanese version of the McDonnell-Douglas F-4. Phantom II



Satellite image of Google Earth: airplanes and Miho F-4J airbase


T-4 (200pcs.) - Light attack aircraft / training, developed by Kawasaki for the Japan Self-Defense Air Force.



On the T-4 flies Japanese aerobatic team Blue Impulse. The T-4 has a 4 suspension unit for fuel tanks, machine gun containers and other weapons needed to complete training tasks. The design incorporated the possibility of rapid modification in a lightweight strike aircraft. In this embodiment, it is capable of carrying on five suspension nodes up to 2000 kg of combat load. The aircraft can be retrofitted for use of AIM-9L Sidewind air-to-air UR.

Grumman E-2CHawkeye (13pcs.) - Amplification and control aircraft.

Boeing E-767 AWACS (4pcs)


DRLO aircraft built for Japan, on the basis of the passenger Boeing-767


C-1A (25pc.) A medium-range military transport aircraft developed by Kawasaki for the Japan Self-Defense Air Force.



C-1s form the backbone of the military transport park aviation Japanese self-defense forces.
The aircraft is designed for air transportation of troops, military equipment and cargo, landing of personnel and equipment by landing and parachute methods, evacuation of the wounded. The C-1 has a high-winged wing, a fuselage of circular cross-section, a T-shaped tail assembly and a three-post landing gear retractable in flight. In front of the fuselage is the cabin of the crew consisting of 5 people, behind it is a cargo cabin of length 10,8 m, width 3,6 m and height 2,25 m.
Both the crew cabin and the cargo compartment are sealed and connected to the air conditioning system. 60 soldiers with weapons or 45 paratroopers can be transported in a cargo cabin. In the case of transporting the wounded, 36 stretcher wounded and their accompanying personnel may be placed here. Through the cargo hatch located in the tail section of the aircraft, the following can be loaded: 105-mm howitzer or 2,5-t truck, or three cars
like "jeep". The landing of equipment and cargoes is carried out through this hatch, and parachutists can also be landed through the side doors at the rear of the fuselage.


Google Earth Satellite Image: T-4 and C-1A aircraft from Tsuiki Air Base


EC-1 (1pcs.) - Radio reconnaissance aircraft based on the C-1 transport.
YS-11 (7pcs.) - EW aircraft based on medium-haul passenger aircraft.
C-130H (16pcs.) - A multi-purpose military transport aircraft.
Boeing KC-767J (4pcs.) - Strategic aircraft tanker based on a Boeing 767.
UH-60JBlack Hawk (39pcs.) - Multi-purpose helicopter.
CH-47JChinook (16pcs.) - A multi-purpose military transport helicopter.

Air Defense: 120 PU Patriot and Advanced Hawk.


Satellite image of Google Earth: Patriot’s anti-aircraft missile system for Japan’s air defense in Tokyo



Satellite image of Google Earth: Advanced Air Defense Air Defense System of Japan’s air defense, a suburb of Tokyo


The formation of the current Japanese Air Force began with the adoption of 1 July 1954, the law on the establishment of the Office of National Defense, as well as land, naval and air forces. The problem of aviation technology and personnel was solved with American help. In April, 1956 was signed an agreement to supply Japan with Starfighter F-104 jets.

Combat aviation and air defense "Land of the Rising Sun"


At that time, this multipurpose fighter passed flight tests, showed high capabilities as an air defense fighter, which corresponded to the views of the country's leadership on the use of armed forces "only in the interests of defense."
Subsequently, during the creation and development of the armed forces, the Japanese leadership proceeded from the need to ensure "the country's initial defense against aggression." The subsequent response to a potential aggressor under a security treaty was to be given by the US military. The guarantor of such a response Tokyo considered the deployment of US military bases on the Japanese islands, while Japan took on many of the costs of ensuring the life of the Pentagon.
Based on the foregoing, and began equipping the Japanese Air Force.
“Starfighter” at the end of 1950-s, despite the high accident rate, became one of the main fighters of the Air Force of many countries, was produced in various versions, including in Japan. It was an all-weather interceptor F-104J. From 1961, the Air Force of the Rising Sun received 210 of Starfighter type aircraft, and 178 of them were produced by the well-known Japanese concern Mitsubishi under license.
It should be noted that the construction of jet fighters in Japan was established as early as 1957, when the production of the F-86F Saber American aircraft began (also under license).


F-86F "Saber" Japan Air Defense Force


But by the middle of the 1960-s, the F-104J began to be regarded as an obsolete machine. Therefore, in January 1969, the Japanese Cabinet decided to equip the country's air force with new fighter-interceptors. As a prototype, a third-generation American multi-role fighter F-4E "Phantom" was chosen. But the Japanese, ordering an option F-4EJ, set the condition that it was an interceptor plane. The Americans did not object, and with F-4EJ all the equipment was removed to work on ground targets, but the air-to-air weapons were reinforced. All in accordance with the Japanese concept of "only in the interests of defense." The leadership of Japan demonstrated, at least in conceptual documents, the desire for the country's armed forces to remain national armed forces, to ensure the security of their territory.

The "softening" of Tokyo's approaches to offensive weapons, including those in the Air Force, began to be observed in the second half of the 1970s under pressure from Washington, especially after the adoption of the so-called "Guidelines for Japanese-US Defense Cooperation" in 1978. Prior to this, no joint actions, even exercises, self-defense forces and the American parts in Japan were conducted. Since then, much, including in the performance characteristics of aviation technology, has changed in the Japanese Self-Defense Forces, based on joint actions. For still-produced F-4EJ, for example, equipment is installed to refuel in the air. The last Phantom for the Japanese Air Force entered 1981. But already in 1984, a program to extend their lifespan was adopted. In this case, "Phantoms" began to be equipped with means of bombing. These aircraft were called Kai.
But this does not mean that the main task of the Japanese Air Force has been changed. It remained the same - the provision of air defense of the country. That is why, with 1982, the all-weather F-15J interceptor fighter jets began to arrive in the Japanese Air Force. It was a modification of the fourth-generation US all-weather tactical fighter F-15 "Eagle", intended "to gain air superiority." And to this day, the F-15J is the main air defense fighter of the Japanese Air Force (in all, they delivered 223 of such aircraft).
As you can see, the emphasis in the choice of aviation technology was almost always placed on fighters aimed at air defense tasks, at winning air superiority. This also applies to F-104J, and F-4EJ, and F-15J.
Only in the second half of the 1980-ies did Washington and Tokyo agree to jointly develop a direct support fighter.
The validity of these allegations is confirmed in the course of collisions due to the need to re-equip the fleet of fighters of the country's military aviation. The main objective of the Japanese Air Force is to ensure the air defense of the country. Although added and the task of providing aviation support to the ground forces and navy. This is evident from the organizational structure of the Air Force. In its structure there are three aviation directions - Northern, Central and Western. Each of them has two fighter aviation wings, including two squadrons. In this case, 12 squadrons - nine air defense and three tactical fighter. In addition, there is a South-Western mixed aviation wing, which includes another fighter aviation squadron of air defense. F-15J, F-4EJ Kai planes are armed with air defense squadrons.
As you can see, the core of the "base forces" of the Japanese Air Force is made up of fighter-interceptors. The squadrons of direct support are only three, and they are armed with the F-2 fighter joint Japanese-American development.
The current program of the Japanese government to re-equip the aircraft fleet of the country's air force in general, aims to replace the outdated "Phantoms". Considered two options. In the first version of the tender for the new F-X fighter, it was supposed to purchase from the 20 to 60 fifth-generation air defense fighters similar to the TTH to the American Raptor fighter (Predator, produced by Lockheed Martin / Boeing). It was adopted by the US Air Force in December 22.
According to estimates by Japanese experts, the F-22 most closely matches the defense concepts of Japan. The backup option was also considered an American fighter F-35, but, as it is believed, this type of machine will need more. In addition, it is a multi-purpose aircraft and its main purpose is to strike targets on the ground, which is not consistent with the concept “only in the interests of defense”. However, the US Congress in 1998 banned the export of the “newest fighter aircraft, which used all the best achievements” of the United States aviation industry. Given this, most other countries buyers of American fighters are satisfied with earlier models of the F-15 and F-16, or are awaiting the start of sales of the F-35, in the production of which the same technologies are used as in the F-22, but it is cheaper, more diverse application and from the very beginning of development was intended for export.
Of the American aviation corporations, Boeing had the closest ties with the Japanese Air Force for many years. In March, he proposed a new, significantly upgraded model F-15FX. Two other fighters produced by Boeing are also offered, but they have no chance of success, since much of these machines are outdated. In the Boeing application, it is attractive to the Japanese that the corporation officially guarantees assistance in the deployment of licensed production, and also promises to provide the technology used in the manufacture of aircraft to Japanese companies.
But most likely, according to Japanese experts, the winner in the tender will be F-35. It has almost the same high performance characteristics as the F-22, it belongs to the fifth-generation fighter and has some capabilities that the Predator does not have. True, the F-35 is still being finalized. His entry into the Japanese Air Force, according to various estimates, may begin in 2015 – 2016. Until that time, all F-4 will serve their life. The delay in choosing a new fighter for the country's Air Force is a matter of concern in Japanese business circles, because in the 2011 year, after the release of the last F-2 ordered, for the first time in post-war Japan it was necessary, albeit temporarily, to curtail its own construction of fighters.
Now in Japan there are about 1200 companies associated with the production of fighters. They have special equipment and personnel with the necessary training. The leadership of the corporation "Mitsubishi Dzhukogio", which has the largest portfolio of orders of the Ministry of Defense, believes that "the production technologies of the defense sector, if they are not supported, are lost and never revived."

In general, the Japanese Air Force, are well-equipped, fairly modern military equipment, which is in high combat readiness, is fully capable of solving the assigned tasks.

The naval aviation of the Marine Self-Defense Forces (Navy) of Japan is armed with 116 aircraft and 107 helicopters.
The patrol aircraft squadrons are armed with basic Orion R-ES aircraft patrol aircraft.

Anti-submarine helicopter squadrons are equipped with SH-60J and SH-60K helicopters.


Anti-submarine SH-60J Japanese Navy


The search and rescue squadrons include three search and rescue teams (three UH-60J helicopters). There is a squadron of rescue seaplane (US-1A, US-2)


Seaplanes US-1A Navy of Japan


And two EW squadrons equipped with EW EP-3, UP-3D and U-36A, as well as reconnaissance OR-ES.
Separate aviation squadrons, in accordance with their purpose, solve the tasks of conducting flight tests of naval aircraft, participate in operations of mine-trawling forces, as well as in air transfer operations for personnel and cargo.

On the Japanese islands, as part of a bilateral Japanese-US treaty, 5 is stationed on a permanent basis - the US Air Force Air Force (headquarters at Yokota airbase), which includes 3 aircraft wings equipped with the most modern combat aircraft, including 5-generation F-22 "Raptor".


Satellite image of Google Earth: F-22 aircraft of the US Air Force at Kadena airbase


In addition, the 7th operational fleet of the US Navy is constantly operating in the Western Pacific. 7th Commander's Headquarters fleet located in PVMB Yokosuka (Japan). The fleet’s formations and ships are based on the Yokosuka and Sasebo naval warplanes, aviation - at the Atsugi, Misawa airbases, and marines - at Camp Butler (Okinawa) on long-term lease of these bases from Japan. Fleet forces regularly participate in operations to ensure security on the theater of operations, in joint exercises with the Japanese Navy.


Satellite image of Google Earth: aircraft carrier J. Washington in the Navy Yokosuka


The carrier strike group of the US Navy, which includes at least one aircraft carrier, is almost always in the region.

In the area of ​​the Japanese islands is concentrated a very powerful aviation group, several times superior to our forces in this region.
For comparison, the combat aircraft of our country in the Far East as part of the Air Force and Air Defense Command, the former 11 Army of the Air Force and Air Defense is the operational force of the air forces of the Russian Federation, with headquarters in Khabarovsk. It contains no more than 350 combat aircraft, much of which are not combat ready.
In terms of numbers, naval aviation of the Pacific Fleet is about three times lower than that of the Japanese Navy.

Based on:
http://war1960.narod.ru/vs/vvs_japan.html
http://nvo.ng.ru/armament/2009-09-18/6_japan.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/sea/us1kai.html
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/fsx.html
Reference book K.V. Chuprin “ARMED FORCES OF THE CIS AND BALTIC COUNTRIES”
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  1. +1
    24 May 2013 08: 16
    It is strange how the Americans did not push the f-35 to the Japanese. what
    1. +5
      24 May 2013 09: 12
      F-35 is not yet in the US Air Force, and you are talking about Japan. And it is not known when they will finish work on bringing it to mind. And yet, according to Japanese laws, they cannot spend more than 1% of the budget on weapons, I think the F-35s will simply not be affordable for them.
      1. +6
        24 May 2013 09: 55
        Quote: Canep
        F-35 is not yet in the US Air Force, and you are talking about Japan

        They are in the US Air Force. But they have not reached combat readiness.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +5
          24 May 2013 13: 49
          Quote: Odyssey
          They are in the US Air Force. But they have not reached combat readiness.


          Odysseus, +! drinks

          On May 22, another two F-121B Lightning IIs were transferred to the squadron of the Marine Corps VMFA-35 Green Knights.

          VMFA-121 is the first "conventional" combat unit among all the US armed forces, which began to master the new aircraft.

          The tail numbers on the keels made it possible to identify them as the sides of the BF-23 and BF-26.

          Thus, there are now 6 cars in Yuma, plans by the end of the year to reach the staff of 16 cars seem to be coming to fruition. recourse

          In the photo: Two F-35B escorted by the F-16D pass over the Yuma Air Force Base.


          To the author +! drinks
          1. +3
            24 May 2013 17: 08
            Quote: vaf
            On May 22, another two F-121B Lightning IIs were transferred to the squadron of the Marine Corps VMFA-35 Green Knights.

            VMFA-121 is the first "conventional" combat unit among all the US armed forces, which began to master the new aircraft

            Thank you. As always, you have the most accurate information. drinks
            English pilots just admitted to flying on the F-35 write boiling water and say that this is a childhood dream come true.
            Needless to say, his sensors are, of course, cool.
            That's just how all this electronics will work in real combat conditions and will it not be buggy?
            And how many trained specialists are needed to serve all this crap ....
      2. OTAKE
        0
        7 June 2013 17: 01
        Hardly they put F35
    2. scliss
      +2
      24 May 2013 09: 40
      There is infa that the Japanese do not want a neutered version for almost the same headstock. And it is understood. Allegedly, flight tests of our own Japanese development, which is in no way inferior to the F-22, are already underway at this time. Therefore, they did not take the F-35.
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 09: 57
        Quote: scliss
        Allegedly, flight tests of our own Japanese development, which is in no way inferior to the F-22, are already underway at this time.

        Mitsubishi ATD-X is just a technology demonstrator, so far there have been no flights.
    3. +3
      24 May 2013 09: 54
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      It is strange how the Americans did not push the f-35 to the Japanese.

      Just planned to purchase the F-35. The article also has about it.
      More precisely, the purchase of 42 F-35.
    4. OTAKE
      +2
      7 June 2013 17: 00
      IMHO at the moment, the F-15 is the most powerful fighter of all, and without jambs, it’s been run-in with experience, so the Japanese all produce such equipment
  2. Kavtorang
    +10
    24 May 2013 09: 51
    Respect, respect. The article is unambiguously "+", not without errors, but almost exactly.
    I will add a little: P-3C "Orion" UAV aircraft mod.Update Шj - 90 units. and a pair of soft-canol R-1 (our answer to Poseidon, so to speak). These here with the "Hawks" together (well, these are not to be seen - they crap from afar) - the most vile wolves for our Pacific Fleet. They will exhaust your whole soul if you go through the La Perouse Strait.
    The author also forgot that all the volatility of japs ​​is not only air defense, but also work on surface targets. Honestly, I did not know about the T-4 as a light attack aircraft. Our intelligence has never considered him a military intelligence.
    Since my cadets' days, I really like theirs amphibians PS / US-1 "Shin Meiva" - conversion from an anti-submarine to a search-and-rescue one and back - less than a day.
    1. bulgurkhan
      +5
      24 May 2013 12: 42
      Yes, 90 P-3C Orion APUs is a tremendous force. Each of them can carry 4 Harpoons on pylons and interacting with the Hokai will destroy any fleet that has no air cover.
  3. +7
    24 May 2013 09: 52
    Good review. Particularly pleased with satellite photos. Thank you Bongo!
    The only thing, F-2 (an improved version of F-16 with AFAR) seems to have 81 aircraft, and not 71 as indicated in the article, and they had 15 F-200s (although some could be written off).
    Well, in general, what can I say .... The Japanese Air Force, of course, is a serious opponent and whatever America.
    Moreover, given the situation with the Kuril Islands, the enemy is quite real.
    1. Kavtorang
      +3
      24 May 2013 09: 56
      No. no, everything is correct about the F-2. There is no breakdown into combat - index "A" and combat training doubles - index "B". C F-15J / DJ -the same, in fact more than 200. but if you count together. Different reference materials give different counts.
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 10: 02
        Quote: Kavtorang
        No. No, everything is right about the F-2.

        Built 94.1 lost in an accident. 12 were successfully "hit" by Fukushima. It seems to be 81. And Bongo has a breakdown of 39/32, that is, 71.
        Quote: Kavtorang
        Honestly, I did not know about the T-4 as a light attack aircraft. Our intelligence has never considered him a military intelligence.

        Also the first time I hear.
        1. Kavtorang
          +3
          24 May 2013 10: 09
          Quote: Odyssey
          Built 94.1 lost in an accident. 12 were successfully "hit" by Fukushima. It seems to be 81. And Bongo has a breakdown of 39/32, that is, 71.

          Ah, right. You calculated the cancellation after Fukushima, and the author has data from Jane, with whom our intelligence is operating. hi
          Although, IMHO, it does not matter - the machine is in mass production.
  4. Kavtorang
    +4
    24 May 2013 10: 13
    Quote: Odyssey
    Japanese Air Force, of course, a serious opponent

    Extremely serious. In fact, they alone frustrate the operation of the Pacific Fleet to transfer forces to the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin and Kamchatka.
    "Fleet in beign" in its purest form.
    1. +8
      24 May 2013 10: 22
      Quote: Kavtorang
      Extremely serious. In fact, they alone frustrate the operation of the Pacific Fleet to transfer forces to the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin and Kamchatka.

      In this regard, the idiocy (or betrayal) of our "strategists" is striking. TOF 20 years without renovation, but new ships are sent to the Baltic and Caspian flotilla.
      And for the Pacific Fleet they bought Mistral belay
      It is not clear how his actions are thought without escort ships and aircraft.
      1. Airman
        +5
        24 May 2013 11: 53
        [quote = Odyssey] [quote = Kavtorang
        In this regard, the idiocy (or betrayal) of our "strategists" is striking. TOF 20 years without renovation, but new ships are sent to the Baltic and Caspian flotilla.
        And for the Pacific Fleet they bought Mistral belay
        How do you think his actions without escort ships and aviation are not clear. [/ Quote]
        They didn’t buy it, but it’s not known when they will appear. One Mistral cannot solve the problem. It is necessary to sharply strengthen the defense capability of the Far East, and then Japan and China will drastically moderate their ardor.
      2. bulgurkhan
        +5
        24 May 2013 12: 46
        Russia has a huge backlog in patrol aviation, which is no less important.
        1. +4
          25 May 2013 06: 57
          In the Far East, it is almost nonexistent, 10-12 of limited combat-capable IL-38 and 6-8 Tu-142. Those and others fly very little, from need for patrols sometimes use An-12 and An-26. The An-72P border guards still have it, but they work for the most part during the fishing season.
  5. Kavtorang
    +6
    24 May 2013 10: 35
    Quote: Odyssey
    And for Pacific Fleet bought Mistral belay
    It is not clear how his actions are thought without escort ships and aircraft.

    I once quoted the opinion of a highly respected senior officer - the head of the Pacific Fleet BV, Major General Pushkin, when he was asked to draw and protect the transfer of 155 Pacific Fleet BMPs, taking into account the presence of Mistrals, the latest corvettes, etc. In defense of the plan, he demanded a preventive strike by tactical nuclear weapons on all AB and PVMB of one island state - after which the Commander fell into a sludge and the entire defense of the plan was hushed up. As a result: there is a plan, there is no possibility of its implementation.
    1. +3
      24 May 2013 17: 13
      Quote: Kavtorang
      In defense of the plan, he demanded a preventive strike by tactical nuclear weapons against all the AB and PVMB of one island state - after which the Commander precipitated and the entire defense of the plan was hushed up.

      A cool general. However, I think he is right. To protect the Kuril Islands without TNW does not work. It’s another matter that a TNW strike is also not the easiest thing.
      And how, dear Kavtorang, in the Navy assess the growth of the potential of the Chinese Navy? And do they see this as a danger?
  6. Dima190579
    +3
    24 May 2013 10: 37
    And a hundred for Batman’s emblem at Kaden’s air base.
    1. ed65b
      +5
      24 May 2013 13: 40
      it’s they who will call him when it’s hard.))))))))
  7. Kavtorang
    +4
    24 May 2013 10: 55
    Quote: Dima190579
    And a hundred for Batman’s emblem at Kaden’s air base.

    Quote: Dima190579
    Batman's emblem at Kaden airbase.

    Yes, they have, if the historical path of the unit is not, even if you write "X ..." on the fence - it's okay. Now, if there is a history - you can't touch it - military history. Holy.
  8. Akim
    +8
    24 May 2013 11: 39
    Beautiful infection!
  9. Airman
    +6
    24 May 2013 11: 41
    It’s interesting how the Supreme Commander is going to defend the islands, if Japan has only 3-4x superiority in aviation, and taking into account US aviation (5th Air Force and 1-2 aircraft carriers), then the superiority will be 7-8th. Given our low combat readiness superiority can be 10 times. Therefore, the Japanese, feeling their strength, so brazenly demand the islands. I am silent about the ship structure. In the Far East (ours), there are a lot of Chinese and Japanese, which means both China and Japan are aware of the quantitative and qualitative condition our troops.
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 12: 58
      One hope for TNW (
  10. Kavtorang
    +1
    24 May 2013 11: 49
    Sign, I also really like beautiful pictures wink
  11. ed65b
    0
    24 May 2013 13: 47
    Do you take seriously Japan's plans for a violent solution to the Kuril issue? there will be no power solution. The Japanese economy will collapse immediately. The whole historical experience of Japan suggests one thing: do not mess with Russia, you still lose. Short-term local success does not mean anything when the war goes to exhaustion. I don’t think that the Yapis will last long and Amer will help them, it will be A la Georgia in time, maybe longer, but the result is the same. and after World War 2, a Japanese soldier showed himself nowhere as a fighter. so sleep well comrades.
    1. Airman
      +4
      24 May 2013 16: 53
      Quote: ed65b
      Do you take seriously Japan's plans for a violent solution to the Kuril issue? there will be no power solution. The Japanese economy will collapse immediately. The whole historical experience of Japan suggests one thing: do not mess with Russia, you still lose. Short-term local success does not mean anything when the war goes to exhaustion. I don’t think that the Yapis will last long and Amer will help them, it will be A la Georgia in time, maybe longer, but the result is the same. and after World War 2, a Japanese soldier showed himself nowhere as a fighter. so sleep well comrades.

      Why step on the rake twice? Lost 1905. If there are claims and armed forces, then you need to have an adequate response without unnecessary excessive bloodshed.
    2. +2
      26 May 2013 03: 47
      And what is the Japanese economy focused on the Russian market? In economic terms, we are inferior to Japan as well as in aviation and navy in the Pacific Ocean, at times.
  12. -1
    24 May 2013 20: 26
    The Japs alone cannot and will not compete with us by force! Only with the support of the United States and others ... And given the many difficulties and problems of the amers themselves, we can say that this will not be possible soon. I could say that in connection with the difficult economic state of the United States, on the contrary, strive to unleash a large-scale war, relying on his "omnipotent army" in order to zero his trillion-dollar debt, and at the same time hang it on others ..., but Barack Obamych - this is ours, the same, Mikhal Sergeevich !!! Glory to Perestroika in the USA !!!
  13. +4
    25 May 2013 02: 00
    I have always liked the approach of the Japanese to arming their own Air Force. With minimal risk, they take a successful aircraft as a prototype (Jaguar; Falcon) and with their own research and production capabilities bring it to the level they need. And, for example, the F-15J (language does not dare to call it simplistic) knowing that the navigation and aerobatic complex is much more perfect than the prototype, and the presence of a directorial control system gives the machine the ability to solve air defense issues at a qualitatively different level, integrating it into the automated air defense complex of the region. The military-industrial complex, the Japanese will modernize the F-15 to the level of 4 ++ ..., and there they will "see" the F-35 will suit them, the F-22 will, but not (the ban of the Congress is a rather relative thing, in such close relationships as between the United States and Japan). In any case, it will be a significantly redesigned machine, relative to the Amer prototypes. Regarding the forceful solution to the issue of the "Northern Territories", I think it the probability will significantly increase in 5-7 years, and will represent the final phase of political and economic measures designed to bring instability in the internal political situation in Russia, weakening the central government (which in general is not so difficult, for example, a collapse in oil prices + a major man-made disaster in the European part of the country), and our main ally in the region, China, will easily become an enemy as soon as it realizes that the Kremlin is "empty" (albeit not for long), so as not to miss a piece of the pie. sad
    1. Airman
      +3
      25 May 2013 12: 24
      Quote: Argon
      . Regarding the military solution of the Northern Territories issue, I think its probability will significantly increase in 5-7 years. And it will represent the final phase of political and economic measures designed to bring instability in the internal political situation in Russia, weakening the central government (which, in general, is not so difficult, for example, the collapse of oil prices + a major man-made disaster in the European part of the country), and our main ally in the region, China, will easily become an enemy as soon as it realizes that the Kremlin is "empty" (albeit not for long), so as not miss your piece of the pie. sad

      If during this time (5-7 years) the leadership of the country itself does not give these territories to Japs. When you change the leadership and change the government's course to a tougher one (Asians understand and respect strength, Americans after the atomic bombing are friends) they will shut up about the northern territories.
  14. -1
    25 May 2013 03: 52
    why don't the Japanese create planes themselves? ahem ..
  15. +1
    26 May 2013 03: 41
    A forceful solution to the "northern territories" is quite possible. The islands are practically defenseless, and from the shores of Japan they are much closer to them than from Vladivostok and Kamchatka. In a couple of hours they will open them at the border guards and offer negotiations. US support will be only ostentatious, they will not get involved. The use of nuclear weapons against Japanese bases is hardly possible on the part of Russia, and bombing its own territory (the same captured islands) is nonsense. And while we gather the entire fleet in this theater of operations, transfer aviation and all that, the whole world will press on us with proletarian hatred. In general, everything is possible!
    1. +1
      26 May 2013 04: 09
      Quote: Marconi41
      The use of nuclear weapons on the bases of Japan is hardly possible on the part of Russia
      And why hardly, if the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation is at stake? In Tokyo they know what will happen if "something" happens. Therefore, preserving the ecology on their islands, in such conditions, is a priority for the Japanese;)
    2. +2
      26 May 2013 04: 53
      Quote: Marconi41
      In a couple of hours, they will open them at the border guards and offer negotiations.

      Well, well, June 22, the 41st recall? not a single outpost could be taken that day soldier And there the guys went on the assault not a couple of samurai negative And they will offer negotiations if they have time wassat Tokyo is certainly unlikely to be hit, but a tactical charge of 10-20 pounds will arrive immediately: in a place where there are no foreigners and embassies, and believe me, if it doesn’t affect their citizens, the whole world will deeply spit how many narrow-eyed people will burn alive request
      1. +1
        29 May 2013 02: 22
        22nd 41st I myself know, but you need to open your eyes a little. To date, FSB FS FS do not have heavy weapons, and the GG cover troops are far from these 4 islands. Of course, the border guards will fight, but what can they oppose to attack aircraft? And what about the sea landing? So, unfortunately, nothing will remain of them in 2 hours, only a blessed memory and awards posthumously.
  16. 0
    April 21 2017 18: 40
    The only option is to urgently build airfields on the more northern islands of the ridge and on Sakhalin. They plan to build an airfield in Matua; you need to restore the airfield in Leonidovo; the runway is still there if you believe Google.
    Then, together with the airfield in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk, it will be possible to place about 100 fighters.
    (For starters, at least that’s how the Japanese have 150 fighters)
    949A-upgrade to Onyx so that there is something to treat their Aegis.

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