With whom did Russia fight in Chechnya? Excerpts from "free" newspapers

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The existence of information projects, and sometimes entire campaigns against Russia, is now naively denied. In any difficult period for Russia (for convenience of consideration of the phenomenon, we will focus only on the post-Soviet reality) there was a clear media vector, the purpose of which was to deliver an informational blow to our country, to the consciousness of its citizens. His goal is to form a negative image of Russia abroad. The two Chechen campaigns, the confrontation with Georgia, the support expressed by the Russian Federation of the majority citizenship in Syria are just a few examples of when the foreign media, as well as their particular Russian colleagues, organized informational art shelling of positions taken by the authorities of the Russian Federation and the majority of its citizens. The terrorists were declared rebels or freedom fighters, the leaders of gang groups — the liberators of the Caucasian (Syrian, Libyan, etc.) peoples, and the organizations that finance the militants — patrons of democratic change.

What only are the publications of a number of media (both Russian and foreign), which today would be called ultra-liberal, about the course of the First Chechen War, in which Chechen fighters carrying out explosions of columns of vehicles of federal troops were called only partisans. It turns out that the press, which used this terminology, made it clear to its readers that it considers Chechnya of the 1994-1996 model as a separate state, for whose independence the partisans (not the terrorists) waged war in the enemy's rear.

In one of the January 1995 issues of the Kommersant newspaper, materials from various conventions from different years were published. This information collection, which was associated with the Chechen events, had a strange raid. Here is one of the quotes selected from a group of international conventions that Kommersant decided to offer its readers at the height of the 1 Chechen campaign:

Of the additional 1977 protocols of the year: Protocol No. 1 extended all the rules of warfare to conflicts in which nations are fighting against colonial domination and foreign occupation, against racist regimes and in the exercise of their right to self-determination.


It is noteworthy that the publication in which this phrase was used in Kommersant 18-year-old was published under the heading “Provisions of international law that can be applied to the conflict in Chechnya”. What means can be applied? It turns out that those responsible for the release of this material at one time decided to “prompt” foreign masters what kind of leverage could be used on Russia - for example, to accuse her to the heap of a colonial war and the occupation of Chechnya ...

Representatives of the Baltic press were notable for special variations in the coverage of events in the Chechen Republic during the 1 campaign. If we monitor those interviews that during the First War in Chechnya, the leader of the separatists, Dzhokhar Dudayev, gave the press, then the question arises: was there at least one media company in the Baltic States, at least one publication that was not related to floriculture or the correct sprats that did not take an interview with Dudayev? After scrolling through the ballot papers of the Baltic newspapers of that time, it seems that more Baltic journalists worked in Grozny of the 1994-1996 model of the year than anywhere else, including the Baltic republics themselves.

Why would such an interest be very remote from Chechnya region? Probably due to the need to transfer experience in leaving the "colonial rule". And even more likely - as support for the considerable number of Baltic mercenaries who passed on this very experience in the ranks of the units controlled by Dudayev, Basayev and other “fighters for independence”, “rebel heroes” who didn’t shy to cover their, forgive, pregnant asses women and babies.

Here is an excerpt from the March (1995) interview of Johar Dudayev to the Lithuanian edition Lietuvos rytas.

Our people (Chechens) have never been so close to freedom and independence, and at the same time they were not so close to total physical extermination as they are now. I promise that the war in Chechnya will continue for at least half a century until our republic becomes independent.


In the same interview, Dudayev also addressed the so-called world community, urging it to control the nuclear weaponwhich is in the hands of the “Russianists”, since if Russia gets rid of Chechnya, it will begin to make claims to Poland, Yugoslavia and other countries.

And we remember very well that our nuclear weapons were really controlled by the “world community” in the person of the main “social activist”: uranium was sent to the USA for a pittance, nuclear missiles were turned into colander.
For obvious reasons, this interview, as well as hundreds of people like it, was replicated by the foreign press, which exhibited Dudaev as the leader of the state leading an uncompromising struggle against the colonial regime. And what to talk about noodles for foreign ears, when even in Russia itself there were enough and such people who don’t give up this noodles with humility and some unhealthy pleasure, sorry, hawala ...

Notable for the apparent anti-Russian rhetoric during the First Chechen and "Novaya Gazeta". This quote by Mr Krugov alone in this edition gives reason to reflect on the total wave of information counteraction that Russia faced then:

Grozny should become the second Stalingrad. It should attract the attention of the world community to the Chechen events.


And again, the "global community." As the saying goes: the goal is clear ... And if in the rest of the text, it turns out that the author of these lines equalized in his mind the struggle of the Soviet people against fascism and the opposition of militants in Grozny to the federal troops. And if so, then it is quite clear who Novaya Gazeta considered in this situation as fascists ... Not Dudayev’s extremists.

For a moment: “Novaya Gazeta” still continues to delight its readers in Russia with “sharp reports”, apparently guided by the thesis: “Who remembers the old ...” This can be considered as an important point for those who continue to shout at all corners that in Russia for a long time there is no freedom of speech. As you can see, such freedom is not just there, it still sometimes goes beyond all limits of decency.

And after such permissiveness a'lya Gozmans appear, who also allow themselves the reasoning in the press pages that, they say, we have not fully decided on the criteria of fascism, and therefore continue to shoot the "wrong" films, without learning anything from the advanced West.

No, no one is going to call for freedom of speech to crush - God forbid. This pressure was already there, and it did not lead to anything good. But still it is worthwhile to distinguish the concept of freedom of speech from such concepts as outright informational provocation. If the comparison is made by Russian citizens convicted by at least some authority (even the fourth), a soldier of the Russian army with the fascists, and Grozny with Stalingrad is awarded for freedom of speech, then this is already an obvious overwhelming.

For freedom of speech, materials were also given out in which the “progressive” Western and similar Russian press counted the number of losses during the 1 of the Chechen company. “Freedom of Speech” led to the fact that if we sum up the data on the number of dead civilians in Chechnya, published only by European newspapers, it turns out that this number is at least twice as large as the entire population of the republic before the entrance of federal troops ... Such freedom the words more closely resemble a classical information war, in which, as is well known, the less truth, the better for the side that is advancing in terms of information.

The notorious Zbignev Brzezinski even then decided to use the tactics of the information war against Russia in the form of a stuffing of monstrous misinformation in the media. In the 1995 year, on the pages of American newspapers, material appeared for the authorship of Mr. Brzezinski, in which he asserted that he had in his hands data obtained by intelligence services of several countries of Central Europe in the North Caucasus.

With whom did Russia fight in Chechnya? Excerpts from "free" newspapers


These data allegedly indicate that Moscow is already ready to use chemical weapons against Chechens ... Then the stuffing did not work, but it worked several years later - against Iraq with the famous ampoule of Powell, who apparently read the materials of the specified author at one time.

After this, the question arises: with whom did Russia fight in Chechnya? Yes - terrorists, yes - militants of all stripes, yes - radicals. But there was also a force that at times struck Russia with equally painful blows than the whole criminal camarilla. And this force is “progressive and immensely truthful” media. And Western, and Arab, and Russian. All their work is work aimed at total informational pressure against Russia and its interests, presented in the rank of freedom of speech, which had to be conveyed to people all over the world. It was reported ... "People around the world" swallowed ... Someone else wants, and therefore this misinformation industry continues to thrive, soaring over both the legislation and the objective reality.
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  1. +47
    24 May 2013 07: 05
    And now a similar war is being waged against Russia, even on state-owned media or on state-controlled, for example, Gazprom's TNT and Ekho Moscow. Massive chernukha, ridicule of patriotism, films about bad Russians, propaganda of devil-may-care lifestyle, chanting of pop music, contempt for work.
    1. +16
      24 May 2013 10: 47
      Criticizing enemy publications and the information war against Russia, the author at the same time expresses confidence that censorship and pressure on freedom of speech in the Soviet Union harmed the Soviet peoples. I want to express a categorical disagreement with the extremely democratic convictions of the writer. A thief should sit in jail! The slanderer and the destroyer of the foundations of the state is the same thief and place for these Gozmans and Chubais in the same dungeon, or abroad.
      1. +4
        24 May 2013 11: 20
        I agree with Makano!
        Turning on the TV, opening the Internet t there is a feeling that he climbed into the bucket ...
        I am tired of this!
        My opinion is that it is time to return state censorship and the most severe punishment for its violation.
        And all sorts of liberals and bullshit-do not like it, so no one holds.
        In their so beloved United States (and the like "free" countries), the media against the state do not even dare to blather.
        1. +1
          24 May 2013 12: 07
          Quote: Pharao7766
          Turning on the TV, opening the Internet



          I recommend the resource "Eye of the Planet"

          This is not a rambler with NG.
        2. Agent.
          +6
          24 May 2013 19: 33
          Our liberals, lackeys, will definitely support the West in any conflict of interests between Russia and the West. This has been going on for a long time and under the tsar it was still Dostaevsky wrote "Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but is an attack on the very essence of our things, on the things themselves, and not just one order, not the Russian order, but Russia. The liberal went so far as to deny Russia itself, that is, he hates and beats his mother. Every unfortunate and unsuccessful Russian fact excites laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. "

          And I don’t know how to understand this, this is an unnatural phenmen. If we do not control the media in our country, they gradually grow into Russophobic-liberal and maidservants of the countries competing with us. As a species that gets one in the media and begins to pick up their own kind and crowd out everyone else. State media, they are almost always purely for power and are silent about its shortcomings. What to do in such a situation ...
          1. +1
            25 May 2013 13: 00
            "Our Russian liberal is, first and foremost, a lackey and is just watching how to clean his boots for someone." F.M.Dostoevsky.
          2. 0
            26 May 2013 00: 25
            1. Historical fact - When Gumilyov was once called an "intiligent" he said: "What are you! I have a profession!"
            2. After the Tsisima defeat, a group of Petersburg students sent a telegram to the emperor of Japan with congratulations.

            The Russian intelligentsia are two sides of the same coin - on the one hand, traitors to national and state interests - Narodnaya Volya, Lenin, modern "writers" about whom it has just been described in the article, etc. - they have always pursued far from the interests of the Russian people and Russia and ordinary cultured people who consider themselves representatives of the intelligentsia, BUT they do not sing the praises of Western culture and politics, democracy and gay pride parades, but honestly work for the good of our Motherland and therefore from the point of view The "creative class" are not intellectuals.

            PS: One acting admiral of the Russian Navy said: "Many are writing to us - universal literacy will destroy us ..."
      2. Agent.
        +1
        24 May 2013 19: 45
        Quote: makano
        Criticizing enemy publications and the information war against Russia, the author at the same time expresses confidence that censorship and pressure on freedom of speech in the Soviet Union harmed the Soviet peoples. I want to express a categorical disagreement with the extremely democratic convictions of the writer. A thief should sit in jail! The slanderer and the destroyer of the foundations of the state is the same thief and place for these Gozmans and Chubais in the same dungeon, or abroad.

        Gozmanam and Chubais may also be there, but the press, defending the interests of the State, must critically look at the authorities. State and power are two different things. the problem is that our opposition media are often oppositional both to the authorities and to the country.
    2. Explore
      +5
      24 May 2013 11: 40
      What I like about Putin, with all his shortcomings and mistakes, is his calmness and ability to hold a conversation.
      Here is his conversation with Venediktov (editor-in-chief of "Echo"):

      1. rolik
        +4
        24 May 2013 17: 13
        Quote: Explorar
        What I like about Putin, for all his shortcomings and mistakes, t

        I'm certainly wildly sorry hi , but call me at least one head of state who did not have errors. All leaders, leaders, dictators, had mistakes. There are no infallible people. GDP is no exception.
        The main thing is to correct them, and not to overlay new errors on them.
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    3. +4
      24 May 2013 15: 54
      The echoes of the matzos and the Moscow Zhidomasson are all shouts of course from there, but we also have something to say. Rush there is a great project behind enemy lines, there would be more of them, if our analogue of al-jaziri would have been okay))
      1. GEO
        GEO
        0
        25 May 2013 15: 15
        I hate this - Venediktov. Very suitable for the role of a lampshade ...
  2. +18
    24 May 2013 07: 30
    This war has never stopped since the fall of Constantinople.
    1. Agent.
      0
      24 May 2013 19: 08
      much earlier
  3. +16
    24 May 2013 07: 33
    It is high time to punish, to draw up laws, and at the international level, too - because of such "pranks" - Iraq, Yugoslavia were bombed - although as it turned out, these reasons for the aggression were simply falsified and inflated with the help of paid media, not without the help of deprived of the intellect of Western citizens .. .. and the result is tens of thousands of dead civilians and the civil war, and just genocide under the wing of NATOshists in Yugoslavia .... and in the interior of the country - in general, it is necessary to crush and strangle such rabble.
    1. stroporez
      +4
      24 May 2013 09: 14
      "shoulder" hoes have more HONOR than journalists .........
  4. +4
    24 May 2013 07: 47
    It would be better to publish official statistics on how much money was pumped there over the years.
  5. +4
    24 May 2013 08: 05
    Yes, you don’t need to go far for an example, the war of Georgia and South Ossetia, the whole world for a long time thought (and probably still thinks) that bad Russia attacked good Georgia, and fucking America attacks peaceful countries and everything gets away with it, In this regard, Russia certainly loses in the information war, but we all know that Russia never waged a war of aggression, although Georgia needed to be occupied, at least for a week! And for the fact that the Balts are now opening their rotten mouth, thank you very much for the hunchback, he didn’t break the Union, they would be sitting now shutting their tongue in w ... y! By the way, the case can be a classic example of anti-Russian propaganda (but not true): in the 80s, foreign citizens went to the Olympics in Moscow, who wanted to commit mischief in relation to the Union, but abandoned their plans, later saying that the Western propaganda is false characterizes life in the USSR!
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 08: 25
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      the whole world for a long time thought (and now probably thinks) that bad Russia attacked good Georgia


      and you do not give a damn about STE notorious "public opinion", from the beginning of the existence of Russia to the present time, we are dense savages for the West - and now, a lazy drunkard, may be enough to make excuses? in the UN, votes are bought for "glass beads", the conflict in South Ossetia proved it, there was a commission, all sorts of Euro-emissaries nodded their heads with stupid heads "yes, Georgia, unleashed" so what? many in Ukraine are convinced that Russia was the first to start. Fine?
  6. +11
    24 May 2013 08: 16
    How much dirt was poured by our zhurnalyugami of that time, Politkovskaya, Masyuk .... and where are they now? Politkovskaya (Novaya Gazeta) is among the top ten pathological Russophobes http://www.tchaykovsky.com/rusphobi/edward_lucas.htm

    POLITKOVSKAYA - she did not write a single article about the genocide of the Russian population in Chechnya in 1991-92-93 .. For all her life, she did not write a single article in defense of the Russian people ... And there is Greatest Justice that they killed her namely the Chechens.

    Now, of course, we can say: THERE ARE THERE ARE NO OTHERS, but the banner of the "destruction of Russia" that fell out of their hands was picked up by other hands: "Novaya Gazeta" almost in full force, "Echo of Moscow" - 60-70% of the creative team, etc. ...
  7. +7
    24 May 2013 08: 23
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 17: 43
      three things are needed for a war - money, money and more money. Where did the militants get the money? firstly from foreign "investors" who dream of the fall of Russia, and the fifth column, which dances to their tune.
  8. +10
    24 May 2013 08: 33
    Yes, it's time to bring to criminal responsibility for libel and close down the media that work against Russia. And the liberals, who will shout strongly about this topic, should be taken "on a pencil", and then, in case of exacerbations, they should be quietly and carefully sent to "free bread" in the Arctic Circle to grow pineapples.
  9. +16
    24 May 2013 08: 39
    Today I opened tyrnet and saw the following in the Yandex news topic:

    May 24, Friday 08.27
    • 1. Two children died in a collapsed residential building in Kungur
    • 2. Putin refused to give amnesty to entrepreneurs
    • 3. In the USA, an automobile bridge across the river collapsed, people and cars fell into the water
    • 4. American Boy Scouts decided to accept openly gay people into their ranks
    • 5. Media: The Ministry of Regional Development will create tolerance centers for 1,5 billion rubles

    News No. - I feel sorry for 1 children
    News No. 2 no comment
    News No. 3 no comment
    News No - 4,5 Why does my country need these centers !!! what would it be fashionable to be gay in children's camps ??? Slowly and surely, this western infection is creeping to the borders of my Motherland, or rather has already "thrown a leg over the fence"
  10. +8
    24 May 2013 08: 44
    And I remember how a video was shown on TV in 96x, captured by our specialists from the "fighters for freedom of Ichkeria", where the spirit threatened to come to every Russian home, cut our throats, and our
    women and daughters fuck ......
    I hate to endure! am
    And so - nothing personal ... hi
    1. 12061973
      +2
      24 May 2013 09: 13
      this is a Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya
      1. 12061973
        +9
        24 May 2013 09: 57
        this is a Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya
        1. +2
          24 May 2013 12: 12
          Quote: 12061973
          Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya


          count in the ass, THIS IS OUR!

          good
          1. 12061973
            0
            24 May 2013 12: 36
            not really count, like looking for a flash drive
            1. 0
              24 May 2013 13: 55
              Quote: 12061973
              sort of looking for a flash drive

              original search method!
            2. rolik
              +4
              24 May 2013 17: 16
              Quote: 12061973
              sort of looking for a flash drive

              Yes)))) guys deeply dug))))
              And most importantly, it was from this place that they started checking)))))
              1. Yarbay
                +1
                24 May 2013 21: 00
                Quote: rolik
                Yes)))) guys deeply dug))))

                The main thing to get to the flash drive or not?))))
                History is silent)))
                1. 12061973
                  +3
                  24 May 2013 21: 46
                  And then it began that even the most corrupt human rights defenders, even Ahmednabi, would be silent. A woman employee who came out of the address Madina began to search for any gangster junk. And during the inspection it dawned that the employee choking from laughter was taken out of the room by the arms. And soon the operatives themselves were lying about laughing.

                  Already at the very end of the personal search, when Aliyev undressed and, it would seem, could not conceal anything, a rather large flash drive suddenly fell out of her vagina (!) Aliyeva. I could not resist, apparently. Immediately after it, like a napalm bomb that fell from the pylons of the American Skyrader in Vietnam, a second, equally large, followed. They thought it would fall out yet, but it turned out that Madina was completely bombed on this, the bomb-bomb was empty ...
                  Apparently, they considered it extremely important for humanity. Having given free rein to the imagination, one can imagine how the assassins, blocked at the address, frantically shoved the most expensive thing into Aliyev’s shaggy safe — their notes on flash drives, hoping to leave something behind with the vaginal help of this muskrat. But all that they left is the shameful stigma of “vaginal Mujahideen
                2. rolik
                  +1
                  27 May 2013 23: 32
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  The main thing to get to the flash drive or not?)

                  The flash drive is already, in my opinion, was not so important))))
  11. Belogor
    +3
    24 May 2013 08: 50
    The Russian people know this, remember and will not forget, it would be good to draw conclusions from this for the future.
  12. +5
    24 May 2013 08: 56
    Yes, the liberals spoiled then specifically
    BUT and Soviet weapons are not just left there
    Someone always drunk did not have the will to finish the job
  13. smershspy
    +7
    24 May 2013 08: 57
    Quote: JonnyT
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies


    That's right! We can not disagree! To the very point!
    The information war is waged every day. In all countries of the world there are special departments that deal with and track all the information, analyze it ... The war is on and now while we are here on topwar.ru .... Only who will win ..? Time will tell!
  14. +2
    24 May 2013 09: 06
    We always fought poorly in the information field, but we need to study, we must start and then something will work out. It is necessary to convey your position to the ears of the western man in the street.
    1. 0
      24 May 2013 09: 44
      Quote: omsbon
      It is necessary to convey your position to the ears of the western man in the street.

      Stephen Seagal wants to bring American congressmen to Chechnya.
      A delegation of US congressmen will soon visit the Chechen Republic, the famous American actor Steven Seagal, who was in Grozny at the invitation of Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov, said in the "Dialogues" program of the "Grozny" TV channel.
      “I plan to come to the Chechen Republic next week again with the US congressmen who are arriving in Russia on an official visit. I would like to introduce them to the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov. I think this will be a good step in the development of relations between Russia and USA ", - quoted by Interfax Sigala.

      According to him, he wants US representatives to find out what is really happening in the republic.

      "Our common decision on the arrival of congressmen in the republic will help the US representatives to clearly see that the region is flourishing, that there is no war, that it is being restored, that construction is underway everywhere," the American actor said.
      http://obozrevatel.com/abroad/46738-stiven-sigal-hochet-privezti-v-chechnyu-amer
      ikanskih-kongressmenov.htm
      xxxxx
      S. Sigal was delighted that Kadyrov called him "almost a real Chechen" (in spirit) and decided to bring in the congressmen, and then he might appear in the US press "for the common people." A good actor, but in films he was always "the hero of America." So maybe the "sent Cossack"?
      1. +2
        24 May 2013 10: 12
        Kadyrov wants to rinse their brains - double-faced urki!
        They cultivate in the minds of people that Chechnya is an independent entity!

        Quote: Egoza
        "Our common decision on the arrival of congressmen in the republic will help the US representatives to clearly see that the region is flourishing, that there is no war, that it is being restored, that construction is underway everywhere," the American actor said.
        And make every effort so that everything is bearded! Everything was good in Libya too!

        The congressmen will definitely declare that in Chechnya there are problems with freedom of speech and democracy, there are no gays, and people are punished for nonsense
  15. djon3volta
    +1
    24 May 2013 09: 16
    These data allegedly tell that Moscow is already ready to use chemical weapons against the Chechens ...

    but in amerskih films they easily voice it, a quote from the film PRICE OF FEAR - at about six o'clock Moscow time, the Russians launched a powerful artillery strike on Grozny ... the shells contained an experimental chemical weapon known as "NOVICHOK". nerve paralytic substance. on these infrared satellite imagery, you can see that saturation took 20 minutes, after which every man, woman and child within a radius of 12 miles becomes helpless, the symptoms are the same as in the advanced stage of cerebral palsy.
    “Oh my god, how many dead?” (asks the president of America)
    - preliminary 80% (adviser), which means that Nimerov (president of Russia) has just launched the largest attack in the history of chemical weapons.
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      24 May 2013 21: 01
      Quote: djon3volta
      but in amerskih films they easily voice it, a quote from the film PRICE OF FEAR - at about six o'clock Moscow time, the Russians launched a powerful artillery strike on Grozny ... the shells contained an experimental chemical weapon known as "NOVICHOK". nerve paralytic substance. on these infrared satellite imagery, you can see that saturation took 20 minutes, after which every man, woman and child within a radius of 12 miles becomes helpless, the symptoms are the same as in the advanced stage of cerebral palsy.

      Whose words did he copy-paste?))))))
      At least write the author !!)))))))
  16. isp96
    +1
    24 May 2013 09: 29
    if these creatures managed to bite Chechnya, they would not stop there. It was a litmus for our army and centuries. How else did you manage to fight and WIN in an atmosphere of complete betrayal by the media, the Kremlin don’t even know what to call them-enemies of the people. Swan is modern Vlasov. The integrity of Russia was bought at the cost of the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers, their heroism, an example of unlimited courage and stamina, when in hopeless situations it seemed that there were solutions that the Czechs just ooh .... valy, and vented their powerless anger at prisoners . who are still there.
  17. +2
    24 May 2013 09: 30
    In general, I believe that the books of our geopolitical rivals like Brzezinski's "Great Chessboard" or "The Art of Government Management" by Thatcher, as well as numerous speeches by Western politicians, need to be studied and disassembled at school, so that at least the younger generation has no illusions about our "friends. ".
  18. isp96
    +1
    24 May 2013 09: 37
    if these creatures managed to bite Chechnya, they would not stop there. It was a litmus for our army and centuries. How else did you manage to fight and WIN in an atmosphere of complete betrayal by the media, the Kremlin don’t even know what to call them-enemies of the people. Swan is modern Vlasov. The integrity of Russia was bought at the cost of the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers, their heroism, an example of unlimited courage and stamina, when in hopeless situations it seemed that there were solutions that the Czechs just ooh .... valy, and vented their powerless anger at prisoners . who are still there.
  19. +2
    24 May 2013 09: 37
    All these are consequences. The reason IMHO is that in the early 90s Chechnya was not given independence. Well, who is who, and all their life they fought for its acquisition had the right to this. A sovereign state, a perimeter fence with machine-gun towers, a visa regime and let's see you. There wasn’t enough political wisdom, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan were let go, they didn’t know what to do with this statehood, but then they got into a mess. And now we have such a headache that cannot be solved by any civilized methods. They penetrate everywhere and there are no legal methods to stop them.
  20. +1
    24 May 2013 10: 21
    Quote: JonnyT
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies

    In chicha, Russian soldiers fought with their own government, it introduced a hungry army with the confidence that it would die and Russia could be sold further, but the Russian soldier was not so simple, he not only survived, but also crushed the filthy chur ... k!
  21. dmb
    +3
    24 May 2013 10: 43
    Well, with rags, okay. All those listed in the article were financed by specific gentlemen from the "elite". or rather the waste of our Society. But why do we forget that the TV channels, including the state one, said the same thing. that those who spoke about the Russian invaders and the heroic Chechen partisans Mitkov and others continue their activities at our expense. No NORMAL authority would allow this.
    1. +2
      24 May 2013 11: 06
      Quote: dmb
      TV channels, including the state, said the same thing.

      Are you sure that he is "state"?
      1. dmb
        +1
        24 May 2013 11: 46
        Of course, of course, no in terms of financing.
    2. Yarbay
      0
      24 May 2013 21: 03
      Quote: dmb
      Well, with rags, okay. All those listed in the article were financed by specific gentlemen from the "elite". or rather the waste of our Society. But why do we forget that the TV channels, including the state one, said the same thing. that those who spoke about the Russian invaders and the heroic Chechen partisans Mitkov and others continue their activities at our expense. No NORMAL authority would allow this.

      I’ll tell you more, thanks to the media and everywhere there was a sympathetic attitude to the bandits!
  22. +1
    24 May 2013 11: 05
    In my opinion, only a madman will believe in the honesty of a journalist. Look at the example of the "democratic" NTV. We were in opposition, and now, they have spread through all central channels and are very much rooting for the authorities. And citizen Leontyev? Weathervane, well paid. will go on, then Sobchak will soon lead the program "Time".
  23. 0
    24 May 2013 11: 54
    The bombing of territories, the conduct of battle in the city, etc., and the provocative lies serving the military operations - A NECESSARY ATTRIBUTE OF WAR OR PREPARING FOR IT.
  24. +2
    24 May 2013 11: 56
    <<< No, no one is going to call on freedom of speech to put pressure on ... But still it is worth distinguishing the concept of freedom of speech from such concepts as outright information provocation. >>>
    "Freedom of speech" is a too general, vague concept, and in order to grant the word freedom, it requires clarification about WHAT word is being discussed. After all, the power of the word is known, the word can KILL! Or, for example, to declare that the editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta - and! This is freedom of speech or freedom of insult. And extremist literature, calls for jihad are also freedom of speech, or is it freedom to call for war, for murder! It is clear that gentlemen, liberal crapists of the West pulled out this concept - "freedom of speech" in order to untie the hands of their most powerful media and their hidden and open adherents in the media of other countries in unleashing (to start) an information war, in organizing strong pressure on the leadership countries they dislike. And the number one goal of such "freedom of speech" is Russia! At the same time, it is extremely STRANGE that the state-controlled media take part in this anti-Russian campaign! What is it - misunderstanding, carelessness, indifference, excessive self-confidence of the authorities or fragmentation of power and the introduction of the 5th column from its structure? It is clear that this cannot continue, and simply out of a sense of self-preservation, the authorities will have to react to the unbelted "freedom of speech" (LONG TIME!)!
  25. ed65b
    +4
    24 May 2013 12: 11
    But be that as it may, our president broke the ridge of the Ichkeria. EBN took revenge on Dudaev. And Vladimir Vladimirovich brought the matter to its logical end, he did not bend and was not afraid. For which he is eternally grateful. The fallen eternal memory.
  26. Anton Karpenko
    +2
    24 May 2013 12: 43
    Western Media - A Tool for Stupidizing Idiots.
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 14: 25
      Quote: Anton Karpenko
      Western Media - A Tool for Stupidizing Idiots.



      it will be more correct

      Idiots Manipulation Tool
  27. +1
    24 May 2013 13: 58
    It reminds me of recent events in Syria and Libya. Those who restore order in the country are poured tons of dirt, and bandits and thugs seem to be like angels in the flesh
  28. Drosselmeyer
    +1
    24 May 2013 14: 21
    All these rotten methods of ideological warfare through the press are well described by Kara-Murza in his book "Manipulation of Consciousness". Read it, you will not regret it.
  29. +1
    24 May 2013 14: 56
    "These data allegedly tell that Moscow is already ready to use chemical weapons against the Chechens" ... to be honest ... the song is twenty years old ... but it is enthusiastically listened to in the West in various variations ... Iraq ... Libya ... Syria.
    “After that, the question arises: with whom did Russia fight in Chechnya? Yes - terrorists, yes - militants of all stripes, yes - radicals.” ... in general, with the world's garbage from mercenaries under the banner of Islam.
  30. Svyatoslav72
    +4
    24 May 2013 17: 25
    Russia has not fought with anyone! After gaining sovereignty in Chechnya, all and sundry were doing their "business" there: politicians; comers; military; Ministry of Internal Affairs; The KGB, everyone who had something to trade and on what to do their well-being. If Ichkerian Independence continued to abide by the rules of "common business", then no misunderstandings would have arisen. Did they “turn a blind eye” to the genocide of the “non-indigenous population” (mostly Russians), did they keep silent about bandit raids and raids on nearby territories, did they not interfere with scams and frauds (desires) of the Chechen Ethnic Group throughout the Russian Federation? Yes! complete reluctance to do anything or undertake anything.
    Naturally! strengthened (stupefied) Chechen organized crime groups, "put" on the criminal interests of the dealers from the Russian Federation, and demanded "their slice" in the amount of everything that is. It was then that there were plans to cut appetites. But! since the Russian Federation, continued to decompose shock and "burst at the seams" nothing but "military pressure" was offered. AND! namely, the demonstration of intentions for the return of criminal commercial interests.
    The hostages of such a situation were the conscripts and their relatives (later the composition of the involved power structures and their families), that is, the citizens of the Russian Federation paid for the greed and stupidity of others.
    Those "military actions" were originally planned as maneuvers without clear goals and objectives, thanks not to politicians and not to the military, which turned out to be more than common sense and logic.
    As a result, after two "Caucasian companies" and incredible losses and expenses, the Russian Federation received: 1. Territory - into which an unmeasured amount of dough was thrown out, and still thrown out. 2. The Republican Criminal Group, with a religious-ethnic color, which "goes to work" and marks its territory throughout the Russian Federation. 3. Instability and armed confrontation throughout the Caucasus, due to the WEAKNESS and INSANITY of their actions to resolve the Chechen problem. 4. "Mine of delayed action", the problem which will have to be solved only by military means in the Caucasus and by special actions throughout the Russian Federation.
    Any war implies that the winner obtains better conditions than they were. Any military operations were initially aimed at eliminating the threat, and not repeating it. The purpose of any war is the assertion of their rights and their interests.
    A natural question arises: - So who fought with whom and why? If the previous wording is valid: - "Establishment of the constitutional order", but the problems remain the same.
    There was no War, no one was going to Win, the "Winners" remained the victims.
  31. +5
    24 May 2013 18: 12
    I didn’t read all the comments, I’ll tell you about my personal one. In 2000, our operating group of the temporary department opened a mass grave, all the corpses were in army uniforms installed in the RF Armed Forces, almost all were tied with barbed wire, all, according to the conclusion of the medical examiners, had bullet wounds in the back of the head part of the skull, we got 78 corpses. At that time, the brothers Akhmadov-Rizvan, Shirvani and two others were in charge of everyone there. During the cleaning, our detachment lost two normal guys, Volodya Chertkov and Robert Minasyan. We arrived in the department, and there it was a sin of lore d. Jad, he was the chairman of the OSCE at that time, he tells us that they shouldn’t do that (well, like we’re barbarians). If it weren’t for the head of our VROVD, now Jad wouldn’t be there.
    1. +1
      24 May 2013 18: 27
      Quote: Captain45
      During the sweep, our squad lost two normal guys, Volodya Chertkov and Robert Minasyan.

      Eternal memory to the guys! Earth they rest in peace!
      It is a pity that the lord was not "walked" to that burial!
      1. +1
        24 May 2013 19: 10
        Lena, thank you, we don't know how we resisted. Thank you to the head of the ARVL, if not for him, then a cool mess with the OSCE could have turned out. And how everyone "wanted" that lord with words cannot be told.
    2. Yarbay
      0
      24 May 2013 21: 06
      This lord and one baroness with a very significant surname Cox were also noted in our time !!
  32. Best novel
    -2
    24 May 2013 18: 33
    The minus to the article is mine. Or rather, to the author, I’ll explain why. The author is indignant at the journalists who tinker and distort the facts, phrases to please someone. And therefore the phrase "after flipping through the filing of Baltic newspapers of that time" three languages ​​besides Russian) - he pushed me to check the rest of the text, the benefit of the Internet is not long. According to the first quote: yes, the newspaper dated 10.01.1995/10.03.95/17.01.2000. Read it in full, maybe you will find some leverage. On the second quote: how not strange, but in this context, I found it in the just "finished" "merchant" dated XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, though again "a little differently." On the third, about Stalingrad: "Novaya Gazeta" from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX under the "times of the first Chechen" does not fall. Yes, and the meaning is completely different, read. I can congratulate the author, for me he tightly joined the flows of the "disinformation industry".
  33. 0
    24 May 2013 21: 07
    Yes, this is how it will be now constantly while RUSSIA doesn’t stand up from kalen: it is worth taking a decisive step from left to right and all vanism in the incredibly truthful liberal media and the subsequent democratic war laughing but this stick I look with two cans our television channels in america shas also seem to have worked pretty well! right now the truth is on our side this is our weapon we must be able to convey the current to everyone!
  34. +1
    25 May 2013 00: 24
    The one who makes excuses is to blame.
    I’m interested in when Texas finally separates and the flag of independence flies over Honolulu. And how much can you exploit Alaska. If bought - let them sell back and not to the Chinese.
  35. RUkola
    +2
    25 May 2013 03: 09
    I haven’t fought anywhere, and I don’t know much about this war, but for some reason I have an idea that Mr. Putin presented the whole thing so that the Russian soldiers lost. Well, at least in their cities skyscrapers do not grow like mushrooms, and do not go they are on the cavalcades of elite cars, and even they will not be able to come to the places of their battles to remember the dead, but they will be reminded of this by dashingly djigits in the streets, who are embarrassed by their absolute impunity in all Russian cities.
  36. 0
    28 May 2013 18: 57
    But there was a force that sometimes inflicted Russia no less painful blows than all this criminal camarilla. And this power is “progressive and immensely truthful” media.


    and this force is still at work. it can also be characterized as a disease. the strength of the disease is inversely proportional to the state of the infected: the worse, the harder it hits the target, and when the "organism" is strong, the disease recedes, and sometimes even "reboots" announces.
    In general, I hope everyone understands my metaphors. While the KNIFE IN THE BACK (!) Will not be thrust by the beast, we will always stumble on the same rake.

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