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Who did Russia fight in Chechnya? Excerpts from "free" newspapers

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The existence of information projects, and sometimes entire campaigns against Russia, is now naively denied. In any difficult period for Russia (for convenience of consideration of the phenomenon, we will focus only on the post-Soviet reality) there was a clear media vector, the purpose of which was to deliver an informational blow to our country, to the consciousness of its citizens. His goal is to form a negative image of Russia abroad. The two Chechen campaigns, the confrontation with Georgia, the support expressed by the Russian Federation of the majority citizenship in Syria are just a few examples of when the foreign media, as well as their particular Russian colleagues, organized informational art shelling of positions taken by the authorities of the Russian Federation and the majority of its citizens. The terrorists were declared rebels or freedom fighters, the leaders of gang groups — the liberators of the Caucasian (Syrian, Libyan, etc.) peoples, and the organizations that finance the militants — patrons of democratic change.


What only are the publications of a number of media (both Russian and foreign), which today would be called ultra-liberal, about the course of the First Chechen War, in which Chechen fighters carrying out explosions of columns of vehicles of federal troops were called only partisans. It turns out that the press, which used this terminology, made it clear to its readers that it considers Chechnya of the 1994-1996 model as a separate state, for whose independence the partisans (not the terrorists) waged war in the enemy's rear.

In one of the January 1995 issues of the Kommersant newspaper, materials from various conventions from different years were published. This information collection, which was associated with the Chechen events, had a strange raid. Here is one of the quotes selected from a group of international conventions that Kommersant decided to offer its readers at the height of the 1 Chechen campaign:

Of the additional 1977 protocols of the year: Protocol No. 1 extended all the rules of warfare to conflicts in which nations are fighting against colonial domination and foreign occupation, against racist regimes and in the exercise of their right to self-determination.


It is noteworthy that the publication in which this phrase was used in Kommersant 18-year-old was published under the heading “Provisions of international law that can be applied to the conflict in Chechnya”. What means can be applied? It turns out that those responsible for the release of this material at one time decided to “prompt” foreign masters what kind of leverage could be used on Russia - for example, to accuse her to the heap of a colonial war and the occupation of Chechnya ...

Representatives of the Baltic press were notable for special variations in the coverage of events in the Chechen Republic during the 1 campaign. If we monitor those interviews that during the First War in Chechnya, the leader of the separatists, Dzhokhar Dudayev, gave the press, then the question arises: was there at least one media company in the Baltic States, at least one publication that was not related to floriculture or the correct sprats that did not take an interview with Dudayev? After scrolling through the ballot papers of the Baltic newspapers of that time, it seems that more Baltic journalists worked in Grozny of the 1994-1996 model of the year than anywhere else, including the Baltic republics themselves.

Why would such an interest be very remote from Chechnya region? Probably due to the need to transfer experience in leaving the "colonial rule". And even more likely - as support for the considerable number of Baltic mercenaries who passed on this very experience in the ranks of the units controlled by Dudayev, Basayev and other “fighters for independence”, “rebel heroes” who didn’t shy to cover their, forgive, pregnant asses women and babies.

Here is an excerpt from the March (1995) interview of Johar Dudayev to the Lithuanian edition Lietuvos rytas.

Our people (Chechens) have never been so close to freedom and independence, and at the same time they were not so close to total physical extermination as they are now. I promise that the war in Chechnya will continue for at least half a century until our republic becomes independent.


In the same interview, Dudayev also addressed the so-called world community, urging it to control the nuclear weaponwhich is in the hands of the “Russianists”, since if Russia gets rid of Chechnya, it will begin to make claims to Poland, Yugoslavia and other countries.

And we remember very well that our nuclear weapons were really controlled by the “world community” in the person of the main “social activist”: uranium was sent to the USA for a pittance, nuclear missiles were turned into colander.
For obvious reasons, this interview, as well as hundreds of people like it, was replicated by the foreign press, which exhibited Dudaev as the leader of the state leading an uncompromising struggle against the colonial regime. And what to talk about noodles for foreign ears, when even in Russia itself there were enough and such people who don’t give up this noodles with humility and some unhealthy pleasure, sorry, hawala ...

Notable for the apparent anti-Russian rhetoric during the First Chechen and "Novaya Gazeta". This quote by Mr Krugov alone in this edition gives reason to reflect on the total wave of information counteraction that Russia faced then:

Grozny should become the second Stalingrad. It should attract the attention of the world community to the Chechen events.


And again, the "global community." As the saying goes: the goal is clear ... And if in the rest of the text, it turns out that the author of these lines equalized in his mind the struggle of the Soviet people against fascism and the opposition of militants in Grozny to the federal troops. And if so, then it is quite clear who Novaya Gazeta considered in this situation as fascists ... Not Dudayev’s extremists.

For a moment: “Novaya Gazeta” still continues to delight its readers in Russia with “sharp reports”, apparently guided by the thesis: “Who remembers the old ...” This can be considered as an important point for those who continue to shout at all corners that in Russia for a long time there is no freedom of speech. As you can see, such freedom is not just there, it still sometimes goes beyond all limits of decency.

And after such permissiveness a'lya Gozmans appear, who also allow themselves the reasoning in the press pages that, they say, we have not fully decided on the criteria of fascism, and therefore continue to shoot the "wrong" films, without learning anything from the advanced West.

No, no one is going to call for freedom of speech to crush - God forbid. This pressure was already there, and it did not lead to anything good. But still it is worthwhile to distinguish the concept of freedom of speech from such concepts as outright informational provocation. If the comparison is made by Russian citizens convicted by at least some authority (even the fourth), a soldier of the Russian army with the fascists, and Grozny with Stalingrad is awarded for freedom of speech, then this is already an obvious overwhelming.

For freedom of speech, materials were also given out in which the “progressive” Western and similar Russian press counted the number of losses during the 1 of the Chechen company. “Freedom of Speech” led to the fact that if we sum up the data on the number of dead civilians in Chechnya, published only by European newspapers, it turns out that this number is at least twice as large as the entire population of the republic before the entrance of federal troops ... Such freedom the words more closely resemble a classical information war, in which, as is well known, the less truth, the better for the side that is advancing in terms of information.

The notorious Zbignev Brzezinski even then decided to use the tactics of the information war against Russia in the form of a stuffing of monstrous misinformation in the media. In the 1995 year, on the pages of American newspapers, material appeared for the authorship of Mr. Brzezinski, in which he asserted that he had in his hands data obtained by intelligence services of several countries of Central Europe in the North Caucasus.

Who did Russia fight in Chechnya? Excerpts from "free" newspapers


These data allegedly indicate that Moscow is already ready to use chemical weapons against Chechens ... Then the stuffing did not work, but it worked several years later - against Iraq with the famous ampoule of Powell, who apparently read the materials of the specified author at one time.

After this, the question arises: with whom did Russia fight in Chechnya? Yes - terrorists, yes - militants of all stripes, yes - radicals. But there was also a force that at times struck Russia with equally painful blows than the whole criminal camarilla. And this force is “progressive and immensely truthful” media. And Western, and Arab, and Russian. All their work is work aimed at total informational pressure against Russia and its interests, presented in the rank of freedom of speech, which had to be conveyed to people all over the world. It was reported ... "People around the world" swallowed ... Someone else wants, and therefore this misinformation industry continues to thrive, soaring over both the legislation and the objective reality.
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  1. My address
    My address 24 May 2013 07: 05 New
    47
    And now a similar war is being waged against Russia, even on state-owned media or on state-controlled, for example, Gazprom's TNT and Ekho Moscow. Massive chernukha, ridicule of patriotism, films about bad Russians, propaganda of devil-may-care lifestyle, chanting of pop music, contempt for work.
    1. makano
      makano 24 May 2013 10: 47 New
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      Criticizing enemy publications and the information war against Russia, the author at the same time expresses confidence that censorship and pressure on freedom of speech in the Soviet Union harmed the Soviet peoples. I want to express a categorical disagreement with the extremely democratic convictions of the writer. A thief should sit in jail! The slanderer and the destroyer of the foundations of the state is the same thief and place for these Gozmans and Chubais in the same dungeon, or abroad.
      1. Pharao7766
        Pharao7766 24 May 2013 11: 20 New
        +4
        I agree with Makano!
        Turning on the TV, opening the Internet t there is a feeling that he climbed into the bucket ...
        I am tired of this!
        My opinion is that it is time to return state censorship and the most severe punishment for its violation.
        And all sorts of liberals and bullshit-do not like it, so no one holds.
        In them, the US so beloved (etc.) of the “free” countries, the media do not even dare to blather against the state.
        1. Rider
          Rider 24 May 2013 12: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Pharao7766
          Turning on the TV, opening the Internet



          I advise the resource "Eye of the planet"

          This is not a rambler with NG.
        2. Agent.
          Agent. 24 May 2013 19: 33 New
          +6
          Our liberals, lackeys, in any conflict of interests between Russia and the West will definitely support the West. This has been going on for a long time and when the Tsar was still, Dostaevsky wrote: “Russian liberalism is not an attack on the existing order of things, but an attack on the very essence of our things, on things themselves, and not on order alone, not on Russian orders, but on the very Russia. The liberal has come to the point of denying Russia itself, that is, hating and beating his mother. Every unfortunate and unsuccessful Russian fact arouses laughter and almost delight in him. He hates folk customs, Russian history, everything. "

          And I don’t know how to understand this, this is an unnatural phenmen. If we do not control the media in our country, they gradually grow into Russophobic-liberal and maidservants of the countries competing with us. As a species that gets one in the media and begins to pick up their own kind and crowd out everyone else. State media, they are almost always purely for power and are silent about its shortcomings. What to do in such a situation ...
          1. wulf66
            wulf66 25 May 2013 13: 00 New
            +1
            "Our Russian liberal is, first and foremost, a lackey and is just watching how to clean his boots for someone." F.M.Dostoevsky.
          2. Blackgrifon
            Blackgrifon 26 May 2013 00: 25 New
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            1. Historical fact - When Gumilyov was once called an “intriguer,” he declared: “What are you! I have a profession!”.
            2. After the Tsisima defeat, a group of Petersburg students sent a telegram to the emperor of Japan with congratulations.

            The Russian intelligentsia is two sides of the same coin — on the one hand, traitors to national and state interests — Narodnaya Volya, Lenin, modern “writers,” about whom we have just described in the article, etc. - they always did not pursue the interests of the Russian people and Russia and ordinary cultural people who consider themselves representatives of the intelligentsia, BUT they do not sing the praises of Western culture and politics, democracy and gay parades, but they honestly work for the good of our country and therefore from the point of view "creative class" are not intellectuals.

            PS: One acting admiral of the Russian Navy said: "Many people write to us - universal literacy will destroy us ..."
      2. Agent.
        Agent. 24 May 2013 19: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: makano
        Criticizing enemy publications and the information war against Russia, the author at the same time expresses confidence that censorship and pressure on freedom of speech in the Soviet Union harmed the Soviet peoples. I want to express a categorical disagreement with the extremely democratic convictions of the writer. A thief should sit in jail! The slanderer and the destroyer of the foundations of the state is the same thief and place for these Gozmans and Chubais in the same dungeon, or abroad.

        Gozmanam and Chubais may also be there, but the press, defending the interests of the State, must critically look at the authorities. State and power are two different things. the problem is that our opposition media are often oppositional both to the authorities and to the country.
    2. Explore
      Explore 24 May 2013 11: 40 New
      +5
      What I like about Putin, with all his shortcomings and mistakes, is his calmness and ability to hold a conversation.
      Here is his conversation with Venediktov (editor-in-chief of Echo):

      1. rolik
        rolik 24 May 2013 17: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: Explorar
        What I like about Putin, for all his shortcomings and mistakes, t

        I'm certainly wildly sorry hi , but call me at least one head of state who did not have errors. All leaders, leaders, dictators, had mistakes. There are no infallible people. GDP is no exception.
        The main thing is to correct them, and not to overlay new errors on them.
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    3. Syrdon
      Syrdon 24 May 2013 15: 54 New
      +4
      The echoes of the matzos and the Moscow Zhidomasson are all shouts of course from there, but we also have something to say. Rush there is a great project behind enemy lines, there would be more of them, if our analogue of al-jaziri would have been okay))
      1. GEO
        GEO 25 May 2013 15: 15 New
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        I hate this - Venediktov. Very suitable for the role of a lampshade ...
  2. Circle
    Circle 24 May 2013 07: 30 New
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    This war has never stopped since the fall of Constantinople.
    1. Agent.
      Agent. 24 May 2013 19: 08 New
      0
      much earlier
  3. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder 24 May 2013 07: 33 New
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    it’s high time to punish, draw up laws, and at the international level, too - because of such "pranks" - they bombed Iraq, Yugoslavia - although as it turned out these reasons for the aggression were simply falsified and inflated with the help of paid media not helpless Western intellects deprived of intellect .. .. and the result is tens of thousands of dead civilians and the civil war, and just genocide under the wing of the NATO troops in Yugoslavia .... and in the inside of the country - in general, it is necessary to crush and strangle such scum.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 24 May 2013 09: 14 New
      +4
      the "shoulder" slut has HONOR more than journalists .........
  4. DEDUCHKA
    DEDUCHKA 24 May 2013 07: 47 New
    +4
    It would be better to publish official statistics on how much money was pumped there over the years.
  5. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 24 May 2013 08: 05 New
    +4
    Yes, you don’t need to go far for an example, the war of Georgia and South Ossetia, the whole world for a long time thought (and probably still thinks) that bad Russia attacked good Georgia, and fucking America attacks peaceful countries and everything gets away with it, In this regard, Russia certainly loses in the information war, but we all know that Russia never waged a war of aggression, although Georgia needed to be occupied, at least for a week! And for the fact that the Balts are now opening their rotten mouth, thank you very much for the hunchback, he didn’t break the Union, they would be sitting now shutting their tongue in w ... y! By the way, the case can be a classic example of anti-Russian propaganda (but not true): in the 80s, foreign citizens went to the Olympics in Moscow, who wanted to commit mischief in relation to the Union, but abandoned their plans, later saying that the Western propaganda is false characterizes life in the USSR!
    1. seller trucks
      seller trucks 24 May 2013 08: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Prapor Afonya
      the whole world for a long time thought (and now probably thinks) that bad Russia attacked good Georgia


      and you don’t give a damn about the notorious “public opinion”, from the beginning of Russia to the present, we are dense savages for the West - and now, a lazy drunkard, can it be enough to justify yourself? at the UN, votes are bought for "glass beads", the conflict in South Ossetia proved it, there was a commission, all kinds of Euro-emissaries nodded bluntly "yes, Georgia, unleashed" so what? many in Ukraine are convinced that Russia was the first to begin. Fine?
  6. fellow misha
    fellow misha 24 May 2013 08: 16 New
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    How much dirt was poured by our zhurnalyugami of that time, Politkovskaya, Masyuk .... and where are they now? Politkovskaya (Novaya Gazeta) is among the top ten pathological Russophobes http://www.tchaykovsky.com/rusphobi/edward_lucas.htm

    POLITKOVSKAYA - she did not write a single article about the genocide of the Russian population in Chechnya in 1991-92-93 .. For all her life, she did not write a single article in defense of the Russian people ... And there is Greatest Justice that they killed her namely the Chechens.

    Now of course we can say: THERE ARE NO OTHER AND THERE, but the banner of the "destruction of Russia" that fell from their hands was picked up by other hands: "Novaya Gazeta" almost in full force, "Echo of Moscow" - 60-70% of the creative team, etc. .
  7. JonnyT
    JonnyT 24 May 2013 08: 23 New
    +7
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies
    1. cumastra1
      cumastra1 24 May 2013 17: 43 New
      +2
      war needs three things — money, money, and once again money. Where did the militants come from? firstly from foreign "investors" who dream of the fall of Russia, and the fifth column, which dances to their own tune.
  8. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 May 2013 08: 33 New
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    Yes, it’s time to prosecute for libel and shut down the media that work against Russia. And the liberals who will shout strongly on this subject should be taken "by pencil", after which, in case of exacerbations, quietly and accurately send pineapples for the polar circle for "free breads" for the Arctic Circle.
  9. fellow misha
    fellow misha 24 May 2013 08: 39 New
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    Today I opened tyrnet and saw the following in the Yandex news topic:

    May 24, Friday 08.27
    • 1. In Kungur, in a collapsed apartment building, two children were killed
    • 2. Putin refused to amnesty entrepreneurs
    • 3. In the USA, a road bridge collapsed across the river, people and cars fell into the water
    • 4.American boy scouts decided to accept open gay men
    • 5. MEDIA: Ministry of Regional Development will create tolerance centers for 1,5 billion rubles

    News No. - I feel sorry for 1 children
    News No. 2 no comment
    News No. 3 no comment
    News No. - 4,5 Why do my countries need these centers !!! what would be fashionable in a children's camp to be gay ??? Slowly and surely this western infection is creeping to the borders of my homeland, or rather it has already "thrown a leg over the fence"
  10. sscha
    sscha 24 May 2013 08: 44 New
    +8
    And I remember how on TV they showed in 96 a video captured by our specialists from the “freedom fighters of Ichkeria”, where the spirit threatened to come to every Russian home, cut our throat, and ours
    women and daughters fuck ......
    I hate to endure! am
    And so - nothing personal ... hi
    1. 12061973
      12061973 24 May 2013 09: 13 New
      +2
      this is a Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya
      1. 12061973
        12061973 24 May 2013 09: 57 New
        +9
        this is a Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya
        1. Rider
          Rider 24 May 2013 12: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: 12061973
          Jordanian Negro Yasser with his squad after a strychnine dinner in Chechnya


          count in the ass, THIS IS OUR!

          good
          1. 12061973
            12061973 24 May 2013 12: 36 New
            0
            not really count, like looking for a flash drive
            1. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter 24 May 2013 13: 55 New
              0
              Quote: 12061973
              sort of looking for a flash drive

              original search method!
            2. rolik
              rolik 24 May 2013 17: 16 New
              +4
              Quote: 12061973
              sort of looking for a flash drive

              Yes)))) guys deeply dug))))
              And most importantly, it was from this place that they started checking)))))
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 24 May 2013 21: 00 New
                +1
                Quote: rolik
                Yes)))) guys deeply dug))))

                The main thing to get to the flash drive or not?))))
                History is silent)))
                1. 12061973
                  12061973 24 May 2013 21: 46 New
                  +3
                  And then it began that even the most corrupt human rights defenders, even Ahmednabi, would be silent. A woman employee who came out of the address Madina began to search for any gangster junk. And during the inspection it dawned that the employee choking from laughter was taken out of the room by the arms. And soon the operatives themselves were lying about laughing.

                  Already at the very end of the personal search, when Aliyev undressed and, it would seem, could not conceal anything, a rather large flash drive suddenly fell out of her vagina (!) Aliyeva. I could not resist, apparently. Immediately after it, like a napalm bomb that fell from the pylons of the American Skyrader in Vietnam, a second, equally large, followed. They thought it would fall out yet, but it turned out that Madina was completely bombed on this, the bomb-bomb was empty ...
                  Apparently, they considered it extremely important for humanity. Having given free rein to the imagination, one can imagine how the assassins, blocked at the address, frantically shoved the most expensive thing into Aliyev’s shaggy safe — their notes on flash drives, hoping to leave something behind with the vaginal help of this muskrat. But all that they left is the shameful stigma of “vaginal Mujahideen
                2. rolik
                  rolik 27 May 2013 23: 32 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  The main thing to get to the flash drive or not?)

                  The flash drive is already, in my opinion, was not so important))))
  11. Belogor
    Belogor 24 May 2013 08: 50 New
    +3
    The Russian people know this, remember and will not forget, it would be good to draw conclusions from this for the future.
  12. Pilat2009
    Pilat2009 24 May 2013 08: 56 New
    +5
    Yes, the liberals spoiled then specifically
    BUT and Soviet weapons are not just left there
    Someone always drunk did not have the will to finish the job
  13. smershspy
    smershspy 24 May 2013 08: 57 New
    +7
    Quote: JonnyT
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies


    That's right! We can not disagree! To the very point!
    The information war is waged every day. In all countries of the world there are special departments that deal with and track all the information, analyze it ... The war is on and now while we are here on topwar.ru .... Only who will win ..? Time will tell!
  14. omsbon
    omsbon 24 May 2013 09: 06 New
    +2
    We always fought poorly in the information field, but we need to study, we must start and then something will work out. It is necessary to convey your position to the ears of the western man in the street.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 May 2013 09: 44 New
      0
      Quote: omsbon
      It is necessary to convey your position to the ears of the western man in the street.

      Stephen Seagal wants to bring American congressmen to Chechnya.
      A delegation of US congressmen will visit the Chechen Republic soon, the famous American actor Stephen Seagal, who was in Grozny at the invitation of Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov, said in the Dialogs program on the Grozny television channel.
      "My plans are to come to the Chechen Republic next week together with US congressmen who are coming to Russia on an official visit. I want to introduce them to the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov. I think this will be a good step in developing relations between Russia and USA ", - quotes Interfax Seagal.

      According to him, he wants US representatives to find out what is really happening in the republic.

      "Our general decision on the arrival of congressmen in the republic will help US representatives to clearly see that the region is flourishing, that there is no war, that it is rebuilding, that construction is going on everywhere," said the American actor.
      http://obozrevatel.com/abroad/46738-stiven-sigal-hochet-privezti-v-chechnyu-amer
      ikanskih-kongressmenov.htm
      xxxxx
      S. Sigal was delighted that Kadyrov called him "almost a real Chechen" (in spirit) and decided to drag in the congressmen too, and there he might appear "for the layman" in the state press. A good actor, only in films, he was always "the hero of America." So maybe the "Cossack mishandled"?
      1. JonnyT
        JonnyT 24 May 2013 10: 12 New
        +2
        Kadyrov wants to rinse their brains - double-faced urki!
        They cultivate in the minds of people that Chechnya is an independent entity!

        Quote: Egoza
        "Our general decision on the arrival of congressmen in the republic will help US representatives to clearly see that the region is flourishing, that there is no war, that it is rebuilding, that construction is going on everywhere," said the American actor.
        And make every effort so that everything is bearded! Everything was good in Libya too!

        The congressmen will definitely declare that in Chechnya there are problems with freedom of speech and democracy, there are no gays, and people are punished for nonsense
  15. djon3volta
    djon3volta 24 May 2013 09: 16 New
    +1
    These data allegedly tell that Moscow is already ready to use chemical weapons against the Chechens ...

    on the other hand, they easily voiced this in Amer’s films, the quote from the film FEAR PRICE was at about six o'clock Moscow time, the Russians delivered a powerful artillery strike on Grozny .. the shells contained an experimental chemical weapon known as “NOVICE”. It was nervously paralytic. satellite images, you can see that saturation took 20 minutes, after which every man, woman and child within a radius of 12 miles becomes helpless, the symptoms are the same as in the late stage of cerib paralysis.
    “Oh my god, how many dead?” (asks the president of America)
    - preliminary 80% (adviser), which means that Nimerov (president of Russia) has just launched the largest attack in the history of chemical weapons.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 24 May 2013 21: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: djon3volta
      on the other hand, they easily voiced this in Amer’s films, the quote from the film FEAR PRICE was at about six o'clock Moscow time, the Russians delivered a powerful artillery strike on Grozny .. the shells contained an experimental chemical weapon known as “NOVICE”. It was nervously paralytic. satellite images, you can see that saturation took 20 minutes, after which every man, woman and child within a radius of 12 miles becomes helpless, the symptoms are the same as in the late stage of cerib paralysis.

      Whose words did he copy-paste?))))))
      At least write the author !!)))))))
  16. isp96
    isp96 24 May 2013 09: 29 New
    +1
    if these creatures managed to bite Chechnya, they would not stop there. It was a litmus for our army and centuries. How else did you manage to fight and WIN in an atmosphere of complete betrayal by the media, the Kremlin don’t even know what to call them-enemies of the people. Swan is modern Vlasov. The integrity of Russia was bought at the cost of the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers, their heroism, an example of unlimited courage and stamina, when in hopeless situations it seemed that there were solutions that the Czechs just ooh .... valy, and vented their powerless anger at prisoners . who are still there.
  17. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 24 May 2013 09: 30 New
    +2
    In general, I think that books by our geopolitical rivals like The Great Chessboard of Brzezinski or The Art of State Administration by Thatcher, as well as numerous speeches by Western politicians, should be studied and disassembled back in school so that at least the younger generation would not have any illusions about our "friends "
  18. isp96
    isp96 24 May 2013 09: 37 New
    +1
    if these creatures managed to bite Chechnya, they would not stop there. It was a litmus for our army and centuries. How else did you manage to fight and WIN in an atmosphere of complete betrayal by the media, the Kremlin don’t even know what to call them-enemies of the people. Swan is modern Vlasov. The integrity of Russia was bought at the cost of the blood of RUSSIAN soldiers, their heroism, an example of unlimited courage and stamina, when in hopeless situations it seemed that there were solutions that the Czechs just ooh .... valy, and vented their powerless anger at prisoners . who are still there.
  19. bairat
    bairat 24 May 2013 09: 37 New
    +2
    All these are consequences. The reason IMHO is that in the early 90s Chechnya was not given independence. Well, who is who, and all their life they fought for its acquisition had the right to this. A sovereign state, a perimeter fence with machine-gun towers, a visa regime and let's see you. There wasn’t enough political wisdom, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan were let go, they didn’t know what to do with this statehood, but then they got into a mess. And now we have such a headache that cannot be solved by any civilized methods. They penetrate everywhere and there are no legal methods to stop them.
  20. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 24 May 2013 10: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: JonnyT
    Russia in Chechnya fought with the western states and monarchies of the gulf! All support, like financial, informational, intelligence. data, training, the provision of human resources - all this was done by the West, together with the monarchies of the bay. This fact is direct evidence of the one with whom the Russian Federation actually fought in Chechnya. Yes, and the stench from the media can calculate the main enemies

    In chicha, Russian soldiers fought with their own government, it introduced a hungry army with the confidence that it would die and Russia could be sold further, but the Russian soldier was not so simple, he not only survived, but also crushed the filthy chur ... k!
  21. dmb
    dmb 24 May 2013 10: 43 New
    +3
    Well with the news stories, okay. All listed in the article were funded by specific gentlemen from the "elite". or rather, the scum of our Society. Well, why do we forget that the same thing was said by television channels, including the state one. that those who spoke of the Russian invaders and the heroic Chechen partisans of Mitkov and K. continue their activities at our expense. Not a single NORMAL authority would allow this.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 May 2013 11: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: dmb
      TV channels, including the state, said the same thing.

      Are you sure that he is "state"?
      1. dmb
        dmb 24 May 2013 11: 46 New
        +1
        Of course, of course, no in terms of financing.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 24 May 2013 21: 03 New
      0
      Quote: dmb
      Well with the news stories, okay. All listed in the article were funded by specific gentlemen from the "elite". or rather, the scum of our Society. Well, why do we forget that the same thing was said by television channels, including the state one. that those who spoke of the Russian invaders and the heroic Chechen partisans of Mitkov and K. continue their activities at our expense. Not a single NORMAL authority would allow this.

      I’ll tell you more, thanks to the media and everywhere there was a sympathetic attitude to the bandits!
  22. Altor86
    Altor86 24 May 2013 11: 05 New
    +1
    In my opinion, only a mad journalist will believe in honesty. Look at the example of a “democratic” NTV. They were like in the opposition, and now they have spread through all the central channels and are very rooting for power. And citizen Leontyev? Weather vane, well paid. So if it’s the case if he goes further, Sobchak will lead the program “Time” soon.
  23. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 24 May 2013 11: 54 New
    0
    The bombing of territories, the conduct of battle in the city, etc., and the provocative lies serving the military operations - A NECESSARY ATTRIBUTE OF WAR OR PREPARING FOR IT.
  24. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 24 May 2013 11: 56 New
    +2
    <<< No, no one is going to urge freedom of speech to press ...... But still, it is worth distinguishing the concept of freedom of speech from such concepts as overt informational provocation. >>>
    “Freedom of speech” is a too general, vague concept, and in order to provide the word with freedom, it requires clarification of WHICH word is involved. After all, the power of the word is known, the word can KILL! Or, for example, declare that the editor-in-chief of Novaya Gazeta - and! This is freedom of speech or freedom of abuse. And extremist literature, calls for jihad - is also freedom of speech, or is it freedom to call for war, for killings! It is clear that gentlemen, liberal liberal shit-democratizers of the West, pulled out this notion of “freedom of speech” in order to untie the hands of their most powerful media and their hidden and open adherents in the media of other countries in unleashing (to start) an information war, in organizing strong pressure on the leadership undesirable countries. And the goal number one of such "freedom of speech" is Russia! Moreover, it is extremely STRONG that media controlled by the state are taking part in this anti-Russian company! What is this - misunderstanding, carelessness, indifference, excessive self-confidence of the authorities or fragmentation of power and the introduction of the 5th column from its structure? It is clear that this cannot continue, and simply out of a sense of self-preservation, the government will be forced to respond to the unbridled “freedom of speech” (IT'S FOREVER TIME!)!
  25. ed65b
    ed65b 24 May 2013 12: 11 New
    +4
    But be that as it may, our president broke the ridge of the Ichkeria. EBN took revenge on Dudaev. And Vladimir Vladimirovich brought the matter to its logical end, he did not bend and was not afraid. For which he is eternally grateful. The fallen eternal memory.
  26. Anton Karpenko
    Anton Karpenko 24 May 2013 12: 43 New
    +2
    Western Media - A Tool for Stupidizing Idiots.
    1. Rider
      Rider 24 May 2013 14: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: Anton Karpenko
      Western Media - A Tool for Stupidizing Idiots.



      it will be more correct

      Idiots Manipulation Tool
  27. wecher75
    wecher75 24 May 2013 13: 58 New
    +1
    It reminds me of recent events in Syria and Libya. Those who restore order in the country are poured tons of dirt, and bandits and thugs seem to be like angels in the flesh
  28. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 24 May 2013 14: 21 New
    +1
    Kara-Murza speaks well of all these rotten tricks of ideological warfare through the press in his book "Manipulation of Consciousness." Read, you will not regret it.
  29. Strashila
    Strashila 24 May 2013 14: 56 New
    +1
    "This data allegedly tells that Moscow is ready to use chemical weapons against Chechens" ... honestly honestly ... twenty years old song ... but it is enthusiastically listened to in the West in various variations ... Iraq ... Libya ... Syria.
    "After this, the question arises: who was Russia fighting in Chechnya with? Yes - terrorists, yes - militants of all stripes, yes - radicals." ... in general with the world refuse from mercenaries under the flag of Islam.
  30. Svyatoslav72
    Svyatoslav72 24 May 2013 17: 25 New
    +4
    Russia has not fought with anyone! With the acquisition of sovereignty in Chechnya everyone there was doing their job “politically”: politicians; commerce; military; Ministry of Internal Affairs; The KGB, all who had something to trade and on what to do their well-being. If Ichkeria Independence continued to abide by the rules of “common business,” then there would be no misunderstanding. "They closed their eyes" to the genocide of the "non-indigenous population" (mostly Russians), ignored gang raids and attacks on nearby territories, and did not impede frauds (desires) of the Chechen Ethnic Group throughout the Russian Federation? Yes! complete reluctance to do anything or do anything.
    Naturally! the strengthened (stupefied) Chechen organized crime groups "laid" on the criminal interests of businessmen from the Russian Federation, and demanded "their share" in the volume of all that is. And then there were plans to curb appetites. But! since the Russian Federation continued to collapse decisively and to "crack at the seams" nothing but "military pressure" was proposed. AND! namely, a demonstration of intentions to return criminal commercial interests.
    The hostages of such a situation were the conscripts and their relatives (later the composition of the involved power structures and their families), that is, the citizens of the Russian Federation paid for the greed and stupidity of others.
    Those "military operations" were originally planned as maneuvers without clear goals and objectives, thanks not to politicians and not to the military, which turned out to be more than common sense and logic.
    As a result, after two "Caucasian companies" and incredible losses and costs, the Russian Federation received: 1. Territory - into which an unlimited amount of dough was thrown, and also thrown out. 2. The Republican Criminal Group, with a religious-ethnic color, which "goes to work" and marks its territory throughout the Russian Federation. 3. Instability, and armed confrontation throughout the Caucasus, due to the WEAKNESS and UNSUFFICIENCY of their actions to resolve the Chechen problem. 4. "Time bomb", a problem that will only have to be resolved by military means in the Caucasus and by special actions throughout the Russian Federation.
    Any war implies that the winner obtains better conditions than they were. Any military operations were initially aimed at eliminating the threat, and not repeating it. The purpose of any war is the assertion of their rights and their interests.
    A logical question arises: - So who fought with whom and why? If the previous wording applies: - "Establishment of a constitutional order", but the problems remain the same.
    There was no War, no one was going to Win, the “Winners” remained affected.
  31. Captain45
    Captain45 24 May 2013 18: 12 New
    +5
    I didn’t read all the comments, I’ll tell you about my personal one. In 2000, our operating group of the temporary department opened a mass grave, all the corpses were in army uniforms installed in the RF Armed Forces, almost all were tied with barbed wire, all, according to the conclusion of the medical examiners, had bullet wounds in the back of the head part of the skull, we got 78 corpses. At that time, the brothers Akhmadov-Rizvan, Shirvani and two others were in charge of everyone there. During the cleaning, our detachment lost two normal guys, Volodya Chertkov and Robert Minasyan. We arrived in the department, and there it was a sin of lore d. Jad, he was the chairman of the OSCE at that time, he tells us that they shouldn’t do that (well, like we’re barbarians). If it weren’t for the head of our VROVD, now Jad wouldn’t be there.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 May 2013 18: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Captain45
      During the sweep, our squad lost two normal guys, Volodya Chertkov and Robert Minasyan.

      Eternal memory to the guys! Earth they rest in peace!
      It is a pity that the lords were not "skipped" to that burial place!
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 24 May 2013 19: 10 New
        +1
        Lena, thank you, we don’t know how to restrain ourselves. Thanks to the head of the VROVL, if it weren’t for him, then a steep mess with the OSCE could have come out. And how everyone could “like” that word, you couldn’t tell the Lord.
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 24 May 2013 21: 06 New
      0
      This lord and one baroness with a very significant surname Cox were also noted in our time !!
  32. Best novel
    Best novel 24 May 2013 18: 33 New
    -2
    The minus of the article is mine. Rather, I will explain why to the author. The author is indignant about the journalists juggling and distorting the facts, phrases for the sake of someone. And therefore the phrase "after flipping through the binder of the Baltic newspapers of that time" (where does the binder come from and does the author really know three languages ​​besides Russian) - he pushed me to check the rest of the text - the benefit with the Internet is not for long. According to the first quote: yes, the newspaper dated 10.01.1995. Read it all, maybe you will find some leverage. According to the second quote: how strange, but in that context I found her the “just done” “merchant” from 10.03.95/17.01.2000/XNUMX, the truth is again “a little different.” According to the third, about Stalingrad: Novaya Gazeta from XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX does not fall under the “times of the first Chechen”. Yes and the meaning is completely different — read it. I can congratulate the author — for me he has tightly joined the flows of the “disinformation industry”.
  33. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 24 May 2013 21: 07 New
    0
    Yes, this is how it will be now constantly while RUSSIA doesn’t stand up from kalen: it is worth taking a decisive step from left to right and all vanism in the incredibly truthful liberal media and the subsequent democratic war laughing but this stick I look with two cans our television channels in america shas also seem to have worked pretty well! right now the truth is on our side this is our weapon we must be able to convey the current to everyone!
  34. shurup
    shurup 25 May 2013 00: 24 New
    +1
    The one who makes excuses is to blame.
    I’m interested in when Texas finally separates and the flag of independence flies over Honolulu. And how much can you exploit Alaska. If bought - let them sell back and not to the Chinese.
  35. RUkola
    RUkola 25 May 2013 03: 09 New
    +2
    I haven’t fought anywhere, and I don’t know much about this war, but for some reason I have an idea that Mr. Putin presented the whole thing so that the Russian soldiers lost. Well, at least in their cities skyscrapers do not grow like mushrooms, and do not go they are on the cavalcades of elite cars, and even they will not be able to come to the places of their battles to remember the dead, but they will be reminded of this by dashingly djigits in the streets, who are embarrassed by their absolute impunity in all Russian cities.
  36. silver_roman
    silver_roman 28 May 2013 18: 57 New
    0
    But there was a force that sometimes inflicted Russia no less painful blows than all this criminal camarilla. And this power is “progressive and immensely truthful” media.


    and this force is still in effect. it can also be characterized as a disease. the strength of the disease is inversely proportional to the state of the infected: the worse, the harder it hits the target, and when the "body" is strong, the disease recedes, and sometimes it also announces a "reboot".
    In general, I hope everyone understands my metaphors. While the KNIFE IN THE BACK (!) Will not be thrust by the beast, we will always stumble on the same rake.