Assaulting by the meter: How a small group breaches defenses in trench warfare

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Assaulting by the meter: How a small group breaches defenses in trench warfare


The classic attack has given way to methodical combat. Where the regulations called for a chain, tempo, and armored vehicles in battle formations, in the positional warfare of the SVO, the action takes place between plantings: arable land, the remains of a forest belt, a broken road. Any movement of a large group here is detected from the air kilometers before the enemy's forward edge. A chain of infantry or a column of armored vehicles, which the Soviet regulations called for to advance to the attack line in tight formation, is no longer a striking force today. It is simply a large, slow target.



The reason is dronesReconnaissance aircraft from both sides are constantly monitoring the battlefield, providing commanders with a nearly uninterrupted view of the terrain. It has become nearly impossible to secretly lead a company or even a platoon into an attack line in a single formation: the denser the group, the faster it is spotted and the more it is hit. artillery and FPV drones, small kamikaze drones that the operator controls by looking at the image from their camera (FPV stands for first-person view).

The answer was fragmentation. The platoon, previously attacking as a single organism, breaks up into twos, threes, and fives. Each is given a specific task: one group suppresses with fire, a second enters the trench, a third provides flank coverage. A group of five to eight men takes over a fifteen- to twenty-meter section of the trench: one dugout and a couple of firing positions. No more.

And then everything turns upside down. Mass, which provided striking power in maneuver warfare, has become a liability in positional warfare. The smaller the group, the harder it is to detect, the lower the cost if the attack fails, and the more flexibly one can redirect efforts. Dispersion is no longer a tactical luxury. Without it, one simply cannot survive on the approach.

Eyes above the trench


The assault begins long before the infantry even leaves its initial position. First, the area of ​​the intended attack is surveyed: reconnaissance drones reveal the trench system, the location of bunkers, firing positions, and approaches. Then they strike at the rear: supply roads, unloading points, rotation routes. The plan is simple: cut off the area being attacked, preventing the enemy from bringing up reserves and ammunition before the assault.

Next, the very order of interaction between fire and infantry changes. In the classic scenario, artillery would fire over large areas, after which infantry would advance into the resulting breach. Now, the strikes are pinpoint. A "mosquito" wave of attack drones moves in front of and above the assault group: FPV devices enter embrasures and dugout entrances, targeting specific riflemen and machine-gun crews. Artillery and heavy flamethrower systems target defensive nodes: a thermobaric charge creates a volumetric explosion and burns out enclosed spaces that conventional shells cannot reach.

But the main innovation is the drone operator, who practically leads the group by the hand. The assault commander moves along the communication line and can't see what's around the next bend in the trench. But the operator sees this bend from above and radios in: there's a dugout around the bend, a gunner to the left, and then it's clear. This turns the logic of close combat upside down. The infantry is no longer blind, and anyone defending in a trench loses their main advantage—knowledge of their own position.

It turns out that the infantry follows the suppression, not leads it. The assault team enters a sector that has already been exposed by reconnaissance, covered by drones and fire, and cut off from reinforcements. Its task is to clear the prepared section and prevent the enemy from recovering.


Drop off and go


Armored vehicles have a distinct role, and this role is far from standard. The infantry fighting vehicle was conceived as a vehicle that would follow in battle formations, supporting infantry with fire and armor. In trench warfare, it's used differently: the vehicle approaches the landing point at top speed, deploys the group, lays a smokescreen, and immediately departs. There's no lingering: a stationary or slowly moving armored vehicle won't survive long under drone fire.

On paper, the BMP is a breakthrough vehicle. In reality, it's more often used as a carrier: to give assault troops a lift two to five kilometers from the front line, to the drop point, and then leave. The group then proceeds on foot. They try to avoid exposing the armor to targeted fire over this distance, leaving the final push to the dismounted infantry.

This is where the most difficult stage of the assault lies—the consolidation. Capturing a section of trench with a group of five to eight men, stocked with grenades and ammunition, is relatively quick. Holding it is much more difficult. As soon as a section changes hands, enemy artillery and drones begin to fire on it, and the enemy prepares a counterattack. The group must have time to deploy assets to the captured position. EW (electronic warfare equipment that jams enemy drones' control channels), redirect their reconnaissance and attack drones to cover the captured line, and bring up ammunition. All this in the first few hours, before the enemy regains control.

This reveals one of the attackers' weak points. Dismounted infantry capable of not only capturing but also firmly holding what they've captured is chronically lacking. A small group is tasked with tasks that would previously have been the responsibility of an entire platoon. And too often, the success of a consolidation rests on a simple matter of "will it arrive in time?": will the electronic warfare station (portable, trench-type) arrive in time, or will the replacement arrive. If it doesn't, the lost ground must be retaken.

A stormtrooper's equipment follows the same logic. Ammunition and grenades are sacrificed for protection and comfort: the carried weight can reach thirty to forty-five kilograms. It's like lugging a couple of sacks of cement, while running and under fire. In a battle for a dugout, it's not endurance on the march that decides, but the intensity of fire in the first seconds.


Old School Small Groups


The small assault group wasn't an invention of the SVO. It was called upon whenever the front stalled and the fighting broke down into skirmishes over individual buildings and fortifications. During World War I, the German Army created assault detachments to break a static position. The Red Army refined this tactic into a proven system in urban combat during the Great Patriotic War: at Stalingrad and during the assault on Berlin.

The attackers also abandoned the single line and split into specialized groups: some suppressed, others broke through, and still others dug in. The same grenades, backpack flamethrowers, and explosives for blowing up walls and ceilings were used. And the same principle: they fought not for a continuous line, but for individual cover: a house, a floor, a pillbox, a section of trench.

But the limits of analogy are more important than the similarity itself. The assault group in Stalingrad operated blind: reconnaissance was conducted visually, communications were disrupted, and the commander only learned what was happening behind the next wall upon entering. Today, a drone hovers over the group, viewing the field from above and directing the infantry in real time. This changes both the pace and accuracy: fire has become targeted, and the defense has lost its stealth. It's not the group itself that has changed, but the fact that a reconnaissance drone now constantly hovers over it.

So the assault boiled down to working meters by meters. And the hardest part is not even entering the position: drones, fire, and armor help you get there. The hardest part is holding on during the first few hours, while the electronic warfare systems are still being deployed, the replacement is still on the way, and the enemy is already turning their weapons on the area they've recaptured.
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  1. + 25
    13 June 2026 04: 34
    Ah... All this should have been done by politicians!
    Reconnaissance, in small groups, within various Ukrainian parties. Infiltrating local parliamentary deputies.
    Strengthening positions, pulling up their own. Expanding the number of sympathizers.
    With the support of the electorate, the capture of districts, regions, and areas.
    Infiltration of the Verkhovna Rada...
    Everything is like on a battlefield.
    And drones...they are the media.
    You just had to "work" and not think about how to line YOUR pockets!
    1. +1
      13 June 2026 04: 43
      Quote: sagitovich
      Ah... All this should have been done by politicians!
      Reconnaissance, in small groups, within various Ukrainian parties. Infiltrating local parliamentary deputies.
      Strengthening positions, pulling up their own. Expanding the number of sympathizers.
      With the support of the electorate, the capture of districts, regions, and areas.
      Infiltration of the Verkhovna Rada...
      Everything is like on a battlefield.
      And drones...they are the media.
      You just had to "work" and not think about how to line YOUR pockets!

      Apparently there's no one to do it. And there's no time—the money won't make enough for itself...
    2. +5
      13 June 2026 11: 31
      I agree 100%. Assaults are caused by a lack of material resources (in terms of aircraft, missiles, etc., to force the enemy back into the Stone Age before the infantry comes in to mop them up) and by a lack of regard for human resources. The saying is true: if politicians disagree, the military will talk later. But here it's a bit off; it's unclear what the godfather was doing.
  2. 0
    13 June 2026 04: 40
    Why can't the electronic warfare systems follow the attackers on ground drones at the same time?
    1. +1
      13 June 2026 04: 44
      Quote: Ing Mech
      Why can't the electronic warfare systems follow the attackers on ground drones at the same time?

      They are carried out by drones using fiber optics.
      1. +1
        13 June 2026 06: 35
        Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
        Quote: Ing Mech
        Why can't the electronic warfare systems follow the attackers on ground drones at the same time?

        They are carried out by drones using fiber optics.


        Why can't the electronic warfare systems (EW) simultaneously follow the attackers on ground-based drones, heavily decoyed (for example, in the form of Armored Dandelions) and accompanied by the already deployed autoturrets, also heavily decoyed and creating a smoke screen on the windward side?
    2. + 10
      13 June 2026 06: 04
      Quote: Eng Mech
      Why can't electronic warfare (EW) go?

      The question goes to the root.
      The article contains many different kinds of descriptions and examples.
      But... The main thing is missing. An attack in any battle formation, whether large or small, will only be successful if the enemy's firepower is suppressed. This applies to drills, artillery, and machine guns.
      And the assault group cannot hack anything on its own.
      There must be many assault teams for the breach—dozens, even hundreds. And the breached area must be large, so that, with appropriate measures in place, the enemy won't be able to concentrate massive artillery fire or drone strikes on a small captured medical regiment or farmstead.
      In connection with the fact that, due to modern reconnaissance means, it is impossible to secretly concentrate a large group in its initial positions, troops are needed that are able to attack emergency situations, advancing quickly from significant distances, and the means to control them.
      And to prevent drones from interfering with fiber optics, the fiber itself must be cut.
      With what? With our drones with a wire "comb." There are plenty of ways to combat everything.
      All of the above is no secret to military leaders.
      If they don’t do this, it means:
      - gel means of fire destruction and conquest of the small sky in sufficient quantities or not enough well-trained troops, or with senior commanders problems.
      1. +2
        13 June 2026 06: 48
        Quote: Alekseev
        Due to the fact that modern reconnaissance means make it impossible to secretly concentrate a large group in its initial positions

        I'm still haunted by the question: how did the Ukrainian Armed Forces manage to concentrate either 40 or 60 troops to invade the Kursk region?
        Quote: Alekseev
        - gel means of fire destruction and conquest of the small sky in sufficient quantities or not enough well-trained troops, or with senior commanders problems.

        There are definitely problems, but who's going to voice them? And is it even necessary? In Moscow in 1941, people were shot on the spot for such talk (inciting panic)!
        But there's another example: Finland, which, in its media, was relentlessly winning brilliantly until 1944... And then BAM! And immediately defeat! It lost 10% of its territory and paid $225 million in reparations to the USSR until 1952.
        1. -3
          13 June 2026 07: 02
          Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
          I'm still haunted by the question: how did the Ukrainian Armed Forces manage to concentrate either 40 or 60 troops to invade the Kursk region?

          60 is for the entire invasion, that is, for a year. And how they were beaten on the road along which they were transferred has been written about more than once or twice.
        2. +1
          13 June 2026 08: 33
          Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
          But there's another example: Finland, which, in its media, was consistently winning brilliantly until 1944... And then BAM! And immediately defeat!

          This "BANG" happened in September 1944, after the Germans suffered defeat in France, Belarus, the Baltics, and the Arctic. At that moment, Germany's allies, Bulgaria and Romania, were also leaving the war. Mannerheim realized that Germany was finished, so he decided to reach an agreement with Stalin to avoid losing everything.
          1. 0
            13 June 2026 08: 58
            Quote: Cympak
            This "BANG" happened in September 1944, after

            What difference does it make after that! It wasn't about that, it was about coverage in our own media, about propaganda. For the Finns, hooked on their domestic victory needle, it was, like, BAM!!!
            Quote: Cympak
            suffered defeat in France, Belarus, the Baltics and the Arctic.

            Why did you put France first? The most important destination? sad
            1. +1
              13 June 2026 12: 59
              Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
              Why did you put France first? The most important destination?

              For Western politicians, the collapse of the Western Front and the liberation of France were perhaps the most significant, as everyone remembered how World War I had ended. There were direct parallels: the arrival of the Americans on the Western Front, the collapse of the entire Western Front as a result of a single strategic operation. At this stage of World War I, the Second Reich capitulated. Simultaneous successes on the Eastern Front left the Germans no chance. A political crisis also erupted within the Reich, culminating in a conspiracy and assassination attempt on Hitler.
              1. 0
                13 June 2026 15: 30
                Quote: Cympak
                For Western politicians, perhaps the collapse of the Western Front and the liberation of France were the most significant

                I wasn't asking about them. Why did you put them first? Or are you a Western politician?
                Rodney, is that you?
      2. +2
        13 June 2026 10: 50
        Quote: Alekseev
        The question goes to the root.
        The article contains many different kinds of descriptions and examples.
        But... The main thing is missing.

        Our entire army is trained to fight according to strategic objectives. Tactical tactics are described here, and in the strategic plan, tactics are tied to achieving the goals of the strategic objective. But the tactical objectives are achieved thanks to our soldiers, while the strategic objective hasn't even been set and, accordingly, isn't backed by anything, so we're stuck in one place. So, who's incompetent (or at fault) here? If everything were at least at the operational level (honestly, I don't see that), let alone strategic, then tanks would work like in the books we read in academies, and aviation, and... well, everything, and drones wouldn't be as scary as they're painted, or rather, wouldn't become an excuse for unachieved goals. So, where does the reason for such a toothless, no-nonsense solution to the assigned tasks lie? I don't think it's even the generals. Try to guess who sets the tasks?
      3. +2
        13 June 2026 15: 35
        Quote: Alekseev
        The question goes to the root.

        The "root issue" is different. If discussions of combat operations descend to the level of a breakthrough or occupation (or rather, some vague occupation of a section of territory, previously called "local battles") of the enemy's defenses without further exploitation, then that speaks volumes... There's simply no strategy on the horizon.
  3. +2
    13 June 2026 05: 16
    First, the area of ​​the planned attack is surveyed: reconnaissance drones reveal the trench system, the location of bunkers, firing positions, and approach routes. Then they strike at the rear: supply roads, unloading points, rotation routes. The plan is simple: cut off the area being attacked, preventing the enemy from bringing up reserves and ammunition by the time the attack begins.

    The elephant is eaten piece by piece... what
    The problem here is that the enemy is immediately exposed to the plan and purpose of the offensive...will it be possible to mislead the enemy with such a slow forward advance...after all, the enemy will immediately begin transferring reserves to this direction from other parts of the front... recourse the same drones, artillery, assault.
    And all this fuss in a small area turns into butting and swinging back and forth... this eats up all the offensive potential of the attacking side.
    A similar situation occurred at the front during the Battle of Rzhev in 1941...where Model, with the help of operational reserves from other parts of the Rzhev bridgehead, thwarted Zhukov's attempts to drive the Wehrmacht away from Moscow...the Red Army suffered very heavy losses as a result.
    1. +5
      13 June 2026 06: 15
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The elephant is being eaten piece by piece... what

      If the pieces are too small, the Achilles and the tortoise paradox begins to work.
      When an operation is delayed for a period longer than the lifetime of a couple of generations of voters and those elected, the operation itself changes its properties.
  4. 0
    13 June 2026 05: 51
    Why are all the warring parties fixated on these small assault groups and drones? They have experience from the Great Patriotic War, attacking enemy positions with Katyushas, ​​Andryushas, ​​and artillery. For example, did the Northeast Military District try using Grads and Smerches, 50-100 at a time, on a single front line? 100-150 km deep and 50-100 km wide. Incinerating everything in sight, infantry, equipment, and drone operators. A prepared, swift strike followed by a retreat to reload. And only then do the tanks and infantry advance. We have 5,000 Smerches in storage and tens of thousands of Grads alone. I saw this during exercises back in 1976. And then there's aviation. With such tactics, we could advance 100-200 km a week and reach the Polish border no later than November 7th, delighting our people. hi soldier
    1. +4
      13 June 2026 06: 24
      All of this is being revealed by satellite reconnaissance in real time, and while you're bringing up all your assets, the enemy is doing exactly the same, leading to a stalemate on the front. While we're bringing up Grads and Tornados, the enemy will deploy Heimars and long-range drones. And in this firefight, the one with the best accuracy will win. While the Smersh is reliable, it lacks modern, accurate missiles.
      Look at our latest mechanized assaults. The enemy began to engage them twenty kilometers before their first positions. That's why they were abandoned.
      Until a reliable defense against drones is developed, this will remain the case. Or, eventually, the war will be fought solely by drones. Imagine soldiers from opposing armies sitting 100 kilometers apart. And within that distance, only drones will be active.
      1. +2
        13 June 2026 08: 17
        Quote: Epifantsev Sergey
        Until they come up with reliable protection against drones, this will remain the case.

        Aviation - drones are not scary and they are assembled in a "heap" - they are an order of magnitude faster than an armored group, but.. first you need to suppress the unconcentrated air defense in the breakthrough area, because you can’t quickly concentrate it in one area.. In theory, there is something, and how - is also known.. but it is not used... And if drones were so omnipotent, then the LBS would never move anywhere.. ah.. well, you can also go around populated areas, and not head-on.. because there is a continuous defense - no, it is focal..
        1. -1
          13 June 2026 10: 04
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          Aviation - drones are not scary and they gather in a "heap" an order of magnitude faster than an armored group

          Information about aircraft being prepared for takeoff is transmitted even before they take off. And air defense systems operate for tens of kilometers.
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          If drones were so omnipotent, then the LBS would never move anywhere.

          They're not all-powerful, but the classic strategies of the last century don't work with them. Unless you're prepared to overwhelm the enemy with corpses.
          1. +3
            13 June 2026 11: 39
            Quote: Dart2027
            Well, the air defense system operates over tens of kilometers.

            Yes... one or two radars maximum for a 100 km area... when they are moved out, you can do whatever you want in that area of ​​the sky for a while, which is enough to make significant progress, but if they just move radars all over the LBS, then in a month there will be almost no airspace along the entire front, or do you still think that air defense is a terrible, insurmountable thing?
            Quote: Dart2027
            They're not all-powerful, but the classic strategies of the last century don't work with them. Unless you're prepared to overwhelm the enemy with corpses.

            How then is the offensive progressing, albeit slowly? What method do you think is being used?
            1. -1
              13 June 2026 12: 34
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Yes... one or two radars maximum per 100 km section... when they are removed, you can do whatever you want in the sky over that section.

              It's interesting how long it takes to explain to the would-be strategists that the radars don't work all the time, so taking them out is far from a simple task.
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              How then is the offensive progressing, albeit slowly? What method do you think is being used?

              Haven't tried reading the article?
              1. +1
                13 June 2026 13: 18
                Quote: Dart2027
                It's interesting how long it takes to explain to the would-be strategists that the radars don't work all the time, so taking them out is far from a simple task.

                So their air defense is indestructible? That's odd. The S-300s, which are the majority of theirs, can't stop working after launch. The Patriot, however, is no different. No, they have a fire-and-forget air defense system. But you probably didn't realize that's not what I meant. In any case, at a range of 100 km, there are probably no more than a couple of systems.
                Quote: Dart2027
                Haven't tried reading the article?

                Well, that's the point... Why not just surround populated areas instead of storming them? More people would obviously die during an assault...
                1. -1
                  13 June 2026 14: 02
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  So their air defense is indestructible?

                  The fact that they are being supplied with new ones to replace those destroyed has already been discussed many times.
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  per 100 km, there may be no more than a couple of complexes

                  Even if this is not the case, they can cause a lot of problems.
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  Why not surround populated areas instead of storming them? More people would obviously die during an assault...

                  Well, it's hard to say. Surrounding every town and holding it under siege would require a huge amount of manpower, and besides, it's harder to find cover in the open, so it turns out that each has its own challenges.
                  1. +1
                    13 June 2026 14: 37
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Even if this is not the case, they can cause a lot of problems.

                    Yes, but I think our Air Force knows how to take out just a couple of radars... and a breach 50-100 km wide would be enough to collapse the front, and no drones would save us in such a scenario... but why this isn't the case is the question...
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Well, it's hard to say. Surrounding every town and holding it under siege would require a huge amount of manpower, and besides, it's harder to find cover in the open, so it turns out that each has its own challenges.

                    What's more difficult? Most strongpoints on long-range ground battles in open fields—the troops somehow manage... and holding a siege is simply 2-3-4 km further than a straight line, and that's it, I think—not a major task... but enemy losses are an order of magnitude greater than when they are both allowed to escape and then assaulted... What's the difference for an assault aircraft between going through a landing in a city and going through a landing and missing the city? And there's no point in even going into the city—in a week they'll run out of weapons, drones, and food... and FABs on top of that... as a result, advancement is at least no slower, but the enemy loses men and weapons much more... plus they start to fear encirclement and retreat more often...
                    1. -1
                      13 June 2026 16: 52
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      Yes, but I think our Air Force knows how to take out just a couple of radars.

                      Hundreds of them have been carried out long ago. But it's not that simple.
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      begins to fear surroundings and more often withdraws

                      During WWII, they actually used the tactic of pushing out the Germans, who began to retreat when threatened with encirclement, while their masters didn't care about the losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Remember Bakhmut, which was literally overrun with soldiers until the last man, driving them along a literal road of death, which they themselves called the "Russian shooting gallery."
                2. 0
                  13 June 2026 19: 08
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  So their air defense is indestructible? That's odd. The S-300s, which are the majority of theirs, can't stop working after launch. And then there's the Patriot, too. No, theirs is a fire-and-forget air defense system.

                  At the beginning of the Soviet Military District, the Ukrainians really didn't have long- or medium-range air defense systems capable of "fire and forget." At close range, they relied on MANPADS and Strela-10 missiles.
                  But with the arrival of Western aid, such air defense systems appeared: Patriot PAC-3, NASAMS, IRIS-T SLS and SLM
                  1. +1
                    13 June 2026 19: 45
                    Quote: Cympak
                    At the beginning of the Soviet Military District, the Ukrainians really didn't have long- or medium-range air defense systems capable of "fire and forget." At close range, they relied on MANPADS and Strela-10 missiles.
                    But with the arrival of Western aid, such air defense systems appeared: Patriot PAC-3, NASAMS, IRIS-T SLS and SLM

                    To cover the entire LBS line and the city with objects in the depths, hundreds of them are needed, but they deployed dozens... and from my observations, mainly to protect objects in the depths - which is logical...
                    1. 0
                      13 June 2026 19: 59
                      The Air Defense Forces demonstrated the inability of our Aerospace Forces to conduct an air offensive operation. Instead of consistent, massive strikes on the airbase and air defense positions, they were met with multi-directional strikes by individual aircraft, which suffered losses primarily due to the Western-style tactics of the Ukrainian air defense forces. This indicates weak cover for the attack aircraft and insufficient reconnaissance in the combat zone.
      2. +2
        13 June 2026 12: 54
        If we'd reasoned like that, we wouldn't have won the Great Patriotic War. What we didn't realize at Kursk was that the enemy was strong and their tanks were superior—Panthers, Tigers, Ferdinands. But we wanted to win. My uncle was a tank driver during the war, he changed three tanks during the war, and fought at Kursk. For the T-34 crew to survive, they had to fly just as well as the T-80. He was an officer, he could barely walk after the war, and they discharged him for health reasons. hi soldier
        1. 0
          13 June 2026 14: 04
          Quote: V.
          What we didn't understand at Kursk was that the enemy was strong and had superior tanks—Panthers, Tigers, Ferdinands. But we had the desire to win.

          There was also a tactic that was most suitable for the weapons of that time.
    2. -1
      13 June 2026 07: 04
      Quote: V.
      For example, have they tried using Grads and Smerch rockets in the North-Eastern Military District, 50 or 100 of them in one section of the front?

      After a few shots, they immediately pack up and leave their position, otherwise they themselves will be covered by fire.
      Quote: V.
      I saw this during exercises back in 1976.

      Read the article, this is not the 70s of the last century.
      1. +1
        13 June 2026 16: 18
        I may be wrong, but the article justifies the current state of affairs on the front. There are only a small number of attack aircraft, and how many commanding officers are above them? Staff officers at all levels, from various services, there are twenty commanders for every soldier, if not more, and we need one commander responsible for his unit for every twenty soldiers. Quantity translates into quality of attack. You read my comment about multiple MLRS systems destroying a huge area, destroying all life and drone operators, thereby clearing the skies of UAVs. As in the Great Patriotic War, we now need modern tactics suited to the weapons of our time. hi
        1. 0
          13 June 2026 16: 56
          Quote: V.
          You read my comment where it says that many MLRS destroy a huge area, destroying all living things and drone operators, thereby clearing the sky of UAVs.

          But they're not all in one place, and the distance from the front lines is tens of kilometers—so it turns out that drone operators are being fought with drones, not MLRS. Our Rubicon has been quite successful in this.
          Quote: V.
          There are only a small number of stormtroopers, but how many commanding officers are there above them? Staff officers at all levels, from various services, there are about twenty commanders for every soldier, if not more.

          Unlikely. Besides the stormtroopers, who are effectively special forces, there are also regular infantry, and of that, of course, there are more.
    3. +2
      13 June 2026 07: 20
      We have 5 Smerches in storage alone and tens of thousands of Grads. I saw this during exercises back in 1976.
      I'm certainly no expert, but it's possible everything has been optimized since then. That's the first thing. And secondly, raise your head and ask those at the top what they want.
  5. +3
    13 June 2026 06: 17
    All problems in LBS stem from the inability to ensure fire superiority. Therefore, assault forces are forced to drop TMKs into enemy cover.

    Thus, one howitzer regiment of the RGC artillery with ML-20 152mm caliber guns had 48 of these howitzers during the Great Patriotic War. Each shell contained 41 kg of explosive, and the ML-20's rate of fire was 3-4 rounds per minute.

    1968 kg of explosives in a single regiment salvo. And about 8000 kg per minute. Typically, artillery preparation lasted 20 minutes or more.

    That's 160 tons.

    After such shelling, our assault groups went on the attack, and artillery fire was transferred deep into the enemy’s defenses.
    Immediately behind the barrage came the assault groups.

    After such a barrage, the enemy soldiers remaining in the fortifications were stunned and unable to resist. Those who remained alive.

    Of course, this experience came already in 1943, when the Red Army had to break through the enemy’s deeply echeloned defense.

    Of course, it's a different war now, with drones and all that. But it's unlikely that today's Ukrainian Armed Forces fortifications would have withstood such fire.
    1. 0
      13 June 2026 06: 52
      Back then, situational monitoring was completely different. A "Rama" would fly over an area, then they'd develop the film, and then they'd figure out what was going on. Now, the entire area is updated every 15 minutes and processed by AI. And all this without leaving your chair. Concentrating such resources undetected is impossible. And how many additional people are needed to monitor the recovered data? The logistics burden is increasing again.
    2. +2
      13 June 2026 12: 53
      The problem isn't the density of fire; company-level strongpoints are currently holding off in pairs and threes. The main problem is that you can't advance in units larger than a squad. Even pairs of two advance 15-20 meters apart. To avoid both getting caught, at least one has a chance of survival.
    3. -1
      13 June 2026 14: 14
      Quote: avia12005
      It is unlikely that today's fortifications...

      Nowadays, there's affordable, compact, and powerful tunnel-digging equipment. The Americans couldn't even conquer the old Vietnamese tunnels, hastily dug with a hoe, with their aircraft, and they didn't even bother trying to clear the early medieval Afghan karezes. Today, however, it's possible to quickly build deep underground infrastructure, and not by hand. The level of underground construction technology has advanced significantly since then.
    4. +3
      13 June 2026 19: 43
      Quote: avia12005
      One shell contained 41 kg of explosives.
      Cut the sturgeon into 8 pieces.
    5. +2
      14 June 2026 18: 19
      One shell contained 41 kg of explosives.

      This is the mass of a complete 152mm projectile. The explosive content of a HE projectile of this caliber is approximately 7.6 kg.
  6. 0
    13 June 2026 07: 17
    It turns out that the infantry follows the suppression, not leads it. The assault team enters a sector that has already been exposed by reconnaissance, covered by drones and fire, and cut off from reinforcements. Its task is to clear the prepared section and prevent the enemy from recovering.


    It's all well and good, but as always, they missed one point: the enemy also has drones that monitor the battlefield 24/7, which is also littered with mines, and they also have artillery, and often more of all of this!!!

    Therefore, it is very difficult to expose enemy positions and conduct reconnaissance, and it is even more difficult for infantry to reach the point from the storage area and hold it.

    Now, if the enemy detects our group, they spend up to 20 drones on each fighter.

    This is the reality now. Our losses are very heavy.

    We fight, but there are fewer and fewer of us.

    We need a new and systematic mobilization, mobilizing people for two years, for example, so that people understand when the war will end for them.

    Don't talk nonsense about volunteers and contract soldiers. Most of them are currently being hauled to the military recruitment office by the police.

    Right now in Russia, some people are seeing bloodshed and losses, while others are watching a TV show. It's not fair.
    1. +1
      13 June 2026 08: 56
      Give us money and a contract, protect us from criminals in uniform—in a couple of months, you'll have communications, weapons, and those same drones. These drones may not be like those in Hollywood movies, but they'll destroy the enemy and save the lives of soldiers.
    2. 0
      13 June 2026 10: 05
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Don't talk nonsense about volunteers and contract soldiers. Most of them are currently being hauled to the military recruitment office by the police.

      Will the source be?
      1. -1
        13 June 2026 11: 07
        Will the source be?


        My source is our reinforcements, and you can find out about this in a confidential conversation with a member of the SVO motorized rifle unit.

        Or did you think that Channel 1 was supposed to tell you about this?
        1. 0
          13 June 2026 11: 18
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          My source is our reinforcements, and you can find out about this in a confidential conversation with a member of the SVO motorized rifle unit.

          Simply put, another lie.
          1. -1
            13 June 2026 11: 23
            Simply put, another lie.


            To call my words a lie, you would at least have to refute them.

            And if you can’t, then just keep quiet and don’t ask stupid questions.

            Those who doubt my words will be able to check them and find out the truth, but you don’t need it, you simply can’t handle it.
            1. 0
              13 June 2026 11: 26
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              To call my words a lie, you would at least have to refute them.
              And if you can’t, then just keep quiet and don’t ask stupid questions.

              Said the man who is referring to something incomprehensible.
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              Those who doubt my words will be able to check them and find out the truth, but you don’t need it, you simply can’t handle it.

              So where's the evidence? For some reason, I've never heard of anything like this in all these years... Another "officer's daughter"?
              1. -1
                13 June 2026 11: 31
                Said the man who is referring to something incomprehensible.


                Unlike you, I have been a direct participant in the SVO since 2022.

                What other facts do you need?!

                No one here is forcing you to believe anything, you just have to take this information into account and, if you wish, check it with other sources.

                Or were you expecting a link to an article on the internet?!)).
                1. +1
                  13 June 2026 12: 32
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  Unlike you, I have been a direct participant in the SVO since 2022.
                  What other facts do you need?!

                  And I am a participant in the Battle of Kulikovo.
                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  No one here is forcing you to believe anything, you just have to take this information into account and, if you wish, check it with other sources.
                  Or were you expecting a link to an article on the internet?!)).

                  So where are these sources?
      2. +2
        13 June 2026 11: 20

        Do you think there are really that many people in the country willing to sign a permanent contract to fight for 200 thousand a month, of which 100 thousand will go towards the company's needs, construction, and personal needs (from food to equipment)?!

        No, there are essentially no volunteers left, and the recruitment system needs to be changed.

        First, call for a new wave of mobilized personnel, at least 500,000, to replace those in the SVO from 2022, and thus change people every 2 years.

        Secondly, it's time to raise salaries and differentiate them. Infantry leading the assault should receive more than those who serve them, from military police to artillerymen. And the difference should be significant.

        Third, establish a system of rewards not only for drones, but also for captured weapons and military equipment, and for killed and captured Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers.

        Fourthly, make vacations twice a year for 21 days, 15 is very little.

        Fifth, conduct an investigation into the commanders of units that suffered heavy losses. People are not cattle and not a resource for officers' careers!!!

        And then, first of all, our soldiers will understand that they serve for a limited period and will be replaced, and the enemy will understand that we, not just in words, but in reality, can fight forever and not expect that tired soldiers will begin to desert en masse from the battlefield.

        Otherwise, we will simply lose this war.
        1. 0
          13 June 2026 18: 47
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Otherwise, we will simply lose this war.


          Everything you described should have been done... a few years ago, now the situation is much worse.

          And it was necessary to start with the 5th (your point), to draw conclusions regarding those commanders who suffered heavy losses, i.e. there should have been systematic work to correct the mistakes... was it done? I have serious doubts.

          Moreover, as Putin recently stated, over 700 people are participating in the SVO (that's the entire group's size), and it's theoretically possible to call up another 500... but can the state provide these people with everything they need? Equipment, gear, clothing, etc. If there are currently shortages in many positions, and volunteers are filling the gaps, then what can we say about an additional 500 people? And that's not even mentioning the domestic consequences of conscription (from the economy to the exodus of young people to neighboring countries) + the migrant issue will also become more acute... after all, labor will need to be found somewhere (who will come to us, Indians or Pakistanis?).

          And of course, the biggest problem is the enemy's technological advancement in drones/UAVs + AI. The number of drones will only grow, especially when factories in the US/Europe reach full production... and when AI is perfected and can fully control swarms of drones, and if they also give it robots (from dogs to humanoids), say, Tesla Optimus Gen (there's only the 2nd series so far... but by that time, maybe 5-6 models will appear, with a focus on military applications), then things will get really bad.

          In theory, we need to make a push now to complete the SVO before the AI ​​reaches its full potential, but we have neither the strength nor the capability... Perhaps tactical nuclear weapons could ensure a breakthrough, but I'm not an expert, so I don't know. As it is, all we have left is a freeze and new Minsk agreements in a new wrapper.

          It's not hard to guess what will happen after them... but I'm afraid the gap in technology will be even greater.
          1. +2
            14 June 2026 22: 04
            It's theoretically possible to recruit another 500... but can the government provide these people with everything they need? Equipment, gear, clothing, etc. If there are currently shortages in many positions, and volunteers are filling the gaps, what can we say about an additional 500 people.


            Gold and foreign exchange reserves exceed 700 billion dollars.

            Russia sells $250 billion worth of oil every year.

            And also gas, metals, fertilizers and food.

            If they're not ready to spend money on the army, then let them wave the white flag and stop the SVO on the LBS until the LBS in the Oryol and Tula regions has passed.

            If anyone thinks that people at war can sit and fight for another 4 years without leaving, they are very much mistaken.

            The saddest thing is that the enemy understands that their soldiers are at the limit of their strength, but the Russian command and leadership don't. They're doing well, according to reports from their lowly generals.
    3. +1
      13 June 2026 13: 03
      Your logic is strange: if the enemy has twenty drones for every one of us, then no amount of mobilization will outweigh the enemy's capabilities; we're not India.
      There's no justice, I'm very sorry. You're calling for everyone to be rounded up and sent to the SVO. Why? To make it less painful? After all, you can't win with just people.
      The SVO must be stopped; the only acceptable option for Russia at the moment is a freeze along the front line.
      1. -1
        13 June 2026 14: 06
        Quote: Epifantsev Sergey
        There's no justice, I'm very sorry. You're calling for everyone to be rounded up and sent to the SVO. Why? To make it less painful? After all, you can't win with just people.

        Why won't it work? Drones are drones, but we have them too, and the enemy's resources aren't what they were at the beginning of the Second World War.
        1. +1
          14 June 2026 02: 27
          The problem is that large numbers of people need to be equipped, but with what? We currently have a huge shortage of everything, and if not for the help of volunteers, it's scary to imagine what happened.
          Regarding the enemy's finite resources, they're not lowering the draft age, plus the Europeans aren't deporting Ukrainian draft dodgers. Why do you think that's why? I think it's a ploy to blunt our efforts in the event of a mobilization. Therefore, I don't believe mobilization will reverse the course of the Second World War. In my opinion, it will only lead to increased losses, human and economic, and, of course, to hatred toward the government.
          1. +1
            14 June 2026 06: 49
            Quote: Epifantsev Sergey
            The problem is that large masses of people need to be equipped, but with what?
            Nobody planned this, so they didn’t prepare.
            Quote: Epifantsev Sergey
            In my opinion, it will only lead to increased losses, human and economic, and, of course, to hatred towards the authorities.

            That's why this topic is being pushed forward.
      2. 0
        14 June 2026 22: 10
        You are calling for everyone to be gathered and sent to the SVO, why?


        Because the Constitution states that it is everyone's duty to defend their country, and those 0,5% of the mobilization reserve have been here for four years already!!! The people are tired and deserve a change.

        And when there is a change, when everyone realizes that they could end up in the trenches, then the country will treat those in the Central Military District differently, because they will see the problems, and not evaluate the situation in the war based on information from stupid TV shows with a bunch of "military experts."

        And perhaps then soldiers won't have to buy uniforms, body armor, radios, and drones out of pocket at Ozon and local markets. Perhaps the army will receive armored infantry vehicles like the Canadian Senator and other equipment, rather than risk being stranded in a foreign unit during assaults, ferrying a vehicle from Russia to its own unit for missions.
        1. 0
          15 June 2026 04: 04
          Those mobilized must be demobilized; to achieve this, it is necessary not to carry out mobilization, but to stop the military defense.
          Regarding the unification of society, it won't happen; the division will only widen. Those less well-off will either leave, pay off their debts, or use their connections. Therefore, not only will donations not increase, but they will be spread thinner over a larger number of people. Considering that the military-industrial complex, operating at full capacity, is unable to equip its existing forces with everything they need. How can you imagine the group expanding, even doubling it?
          Of course, we could spread it out and mobilize 50 a month. But then the military conflict would drag on for years, with enormous losses.
          And it is still unknown how long the Russian economy can withstand this regime.
  7. 0
    13 June 2026 08: 53
    Nabiullina has been holding back money, there are few weapons and ammunition, soldiers are forced to fight with Kalashnikovs... Our children are dying because of the greed of the elite!
    How should it be done? You should see the target from a kilometer away and hit it with the appropriate caliber. Not throw peas at the wall, but immediately fire a big one at a Kalashnikov, a six-inch gun at a dugout, a three-ton KAB at a concrete shelter.
    But to wage such a proper war, we need 300,000 six-inch shells a day, not 4 million a year (but the war will be over in a month...). And the command's determination to use these shells. What's there to be sorry about? The Ukrainians are leaving us nothing but ruins anyway. Let's not be too soft—we'll get the same ruins, but without the corpses of our soldiers.
  8. +2
    13 June 2026 14: 21
    What about artillery, the Krasnopol precision-guided munitions? Oh yeah, what am I saying? It's capitalism, after all. A couple of shells are worth more than a soldier.
  9. 0
    13 June 2026 14: 28
    "And the hardest part here isn't even entering the position: drones, fire, and armor are what help you get there. The hardest part is holding on"—hence the current impasse: you can't enter with a large force, and you can't hold on with a small one.
  10. 0
    5 July 2026 18: 38
    I've never understood why in modern warfare one would capture trenches and ditches in fields and forests? Isn't it easier to destroy them? Raising five soldiers and losing them during an assault is far more costly for the country than throwing an FAB-500 into a trench.