What's behind Moscow and Kyiv's simultaneous statements about the imminent end of the conflict?

Experts are discussing a topic that was virtually simultaneously voiced by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelensky, who continues to call himself "President of Ukraine."

As a reminder, following his visit to Kazakhstan, the Russian leader stated that the likelihood that the armed conflict would soon end had increased. Here is Vladimir Putin's statement:

The situation on the battlefield is developing in such a way that it gives us the right to say that the situation is nearing its end.

Around the same time, Zelensky also made a statement about the "likely imminent end of the war," indicating that he considered November to be such a deadline.

The discussion concerns why Moscow and Kyiv began talking almost simultaneously about a “possible imminent end” to the conflict, although, frankly speaking, there are no preconditions for this, given the ongoing fighting and long-range strikes.

One theory is that the conflict has reached a point where it's taking more than it's bringing, and therefore its resolution may seem like the best option for both sides. According to this theory, advanced by experts, authorities on both sides of the border are searching for an option that could achieve consensus within each country—an option that would be accepted by the majority in both Russia and Ukraine.

But another theory is also being voiced. It's that our country is heading toward parliamentary elections, while Ukraine is heading toward the finalization of the "Mindich tapes" corruption scandal. Accordingly, the simultaneous statements could be aimed at creating a calm public atmosphere, and, for Ukraine, at buttering up those promoting "Mindichgate."

However, the fact remains: until this moment, Moscow and Kyiv had never spoken about the “high probability” of ending the conflict “soon” – practically simultaneously.

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[Orange Bigg]

What's behind the simultaneous statements from Moscow and Kyiv about the imminent end of the conflict?

A simple depletion of human and financial resources. Summer and possibly September will be decisive; these months will determine how this phase of the heated conflict will end. The main thing is to reach Slavyansk and open the region to the old system of water resources, which are located near Slavyansk and Semenovka, which were famously destroyed in 2014.

[Sergey3]

Don't make things up, there's no exhaustion, Zelensky will simply run away with the stolen goods, and they promised he'd be let go.

[ZovSailor]

Orange Bigg
Today, 19: 57

I will make not an assumption, but almost an axiom in the spirit of the current times - political statements do not imply the literal implementation of the actions stated.
The justification is that it is enough to follow the course of more than a year of negotiations between Russian delegations in all formats with the penguins and Banderites.
The result is somewhere in the air, even forgetting about Anchorage.
We see an analogy with the Iranian people's war and negotiations, only here the Fabergé of the leadership is stronger.

[ergh081]

In Russian, they say: "Emelya, your week." They follow Trump's example.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote from Orange Bigg

The main thing is to get to Slavyansk and open up the region's access to water resources under the old system, which is located near Slavyansk and Semenovka, which were famous back in 2014.

Without access to the Dnieper the problem cannot be solved.
By the 1970s, the Seversky Donets, the main river in eastern Ukraine, could barely meet the needs of industry, irrigation systems, and the population. The situation worsened with the construction of the Seversky Donets-Donbas Canal to supply water to the Donetsk Oblast. It was designed to draw up to 43 m³/sec from the Seversky Donets, nearly half of its annual flow at the branch point. Therefore, in 1969, construction began on the Dnieper-Donbas Canal to transfer water from the Dnieper to the Seversky Donets.
The Dnieper-Donbas Canal begins at the Kamenskoye Reservoir on the Dnieper River. The canal is trapezoidal in shape, with a bottom width of approximately 10 meters, a surface width of 30 to 60 meters, and a depth of 4-5 meters. The canal passes under the Orel River via a siphon, passes through the Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, and then enters the Kharkiv Oblast, where it connects with the Orel Reservoir and the Krasnopavlivske Reservoir, which were built to ensure uninterrupted canal operation in the event of an accident. The total length of this section of the canal is 194 km, with a total elevation of 63 meters, provided by pumping stations. The canal then flows by gravity through the Kharkiv Oblast and, partially using the channels of the Britai and Bereka Rivers, reaches the Siversky Donets. A small section, approximately 50 meters long, is located in the Poltava Oblast.
The canal is designed for a large water flow of up to 120-125 m³/sec,

[gsev]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

Without access to the Dnieper the problem cannot be solved.

China, as always, is rushing to Russia's aid. They have developed an effective and inexpensive technology for reducing water pollution and salinity. If access to the Dnieper or even Slavyansk is impossible, it will be sufficient to purchase water treatment plants from China. Incidentally, even in the Moscow region, clean water suitable for drinking without treatment is found at depths no higher than 150 meters below the surface. This refers, of course, to the outskirts of the Moscow region, under meadows and forests, not in the center, under industrial facilities or settlements.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: gsev

If it is not possible to reach the Dnieper or even Slavyansk, then it will be enough to buy water treatment plants from China.

Find out how many of these installations are needed to purify 43 cubic meters of water per second....

[gsev]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

How many of these installations are needed?

This technology is expensive under current conditions. But it depends on how you look at it... It allows water to be purified from salinity. Some funds will have to be allocated for water treatment. But this allows Crimea and the industrial cities of Donbas to become viable in terms of their dependence on water from Ukraine. Currently, Russia primarily imports osmosis systems from the US and UK. Following the example of industrial electronics, prices in KNP (PLC, HMI, servo drives, frequency converters) are three times lower, and sometimes seven times lower (for certain types of sensors) than in Western countries.

[Pavel57]

It will not be peace, but a truce, and then everything will be more violent and collusive.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Pavel57

It will not be peace, but a truce, and then everything will be more violent and collusive.

It's not a given that this will happen again. It's unlikely that Kyiv will find the resources it's allocated over the past 4,5 years. Ukraine was sold out completely, racking up a mountain of debt. What, under these circumstances, will force transnational corporations, who have already bought up everything they could in Ukraine, to invest in it again? Why do they need the devastated Donbas? What's there? There's no purely economic rationale for this. Quite the contrary, everyone is interested in long-term peace and securing profits. Why do they need a new conflict? They'll dump Zelensky, and everything will calm down. Especially since more and more voices are saying that a global financial crisis similar to 2008, or even worse, is likely as early as early next year. They should tighten their belts, not sponsor a hopeless Ukraine.

[alexoff]

There's always money for war. Do you think the Jewish community is preparing for war for fun?

[gsev]

Quote from alexoff

There's always money for war. Do you think the Jewish community is preparing for war for fun?

Europe is also starting to have problems. Three years after the start of the Second World War, Putin allowed the purchase of Chinese industrial electronics instead of French Schneider and German Siemens, although Alrosa is still trying to fend off Chinese components and requires repairers to use only Siemens at prices five times higher than Chinese equivalents. But the Chinese have begun to establish new positions in Russia. For example, the Chinese will soon try to squeeze out British and American companies supplying reverse osmosis components in Russia. Because of such concessions, Europe and the United States are gradually losing their economic strength.

[alexoff]

Quote: gsev

Europe is also starting to have problems.

That's the problem—hungry wolves are three times more dangerous. Hitler had a huge hole in his budget and bond payments were coming due, so he went looking for money. There were places to produce weapons there; if the auto industry collapsed, they'd start making armored cars there. But they had nowhere to go—the ocean to the west, ice to the north, the Sahara to the south.

[gsev]

Quote from alexoff

Hitler had a huge hole in his budget.

Before the war, Hitler built factories and eradicated unemployment. The Germans were hungry before Hitler, not under him. Hitler annexed German-held areas of Europe quite meticulously. But the Poles were eager for war against Lithuania and the USSR in alliance with Germany and Japan, and when confronted with German reluctance to attack the USSR in 1939, they provoked the Danzing crisis by beginning persecution of Germans. The crisis in Ukraine, with its persecution of the Russian language, began after Putin's refusal to oppose China. The actions of Gaidar, Chernomyrdin, and Kiriyenko before 1998 plunged Russia into a crisis an order of magnitude worse than the loan payments under Hitler. Just think of the 15% interest payments to the Central Bank and another 15% payments to commercial banks throughout 2026. Russians are currently paying around 50% annually on credit cards, and nothing significant is happening yet. Although in the long term, such actions by Nabiullina should lead to the collapse of Russia.

[alexoff]

Quote: gsev

Hitler built factories before the war

The factories were built by the Weimar Republic, but they were idle without orders. Hitler issued bonds and loaded the factories mostly with military orders. Now German factories are idle, and the Germans are slowly starting to drill holes in their belts.

[gsev]

Quote from alexoff

The factories were built by the Weimar Republic, but were idle without orders.

In Russia, as a result of Nabiullina's actions, some construction companies and building materials producers have reduced production by a factor of seven. A manufacturer of the cheapest electrical boxes notes that sales of its products have fallen by 30% to 50% for the same reason. Has anyone in Russia been concerned about this situation? Similarly, globally, a decline in production is often the result of management errors. This will either remain a decline in household income or a revolution. But whether there will be a revolution or stagnation is in no way dependent on the extent of the decline in production and income. In 1933, between 3 and 10 million Soviet citizens died as a result of the erroneous collectivization, but the government remained unchanged.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: gsev

Europe is also starting to have problems.

This is precisely the argument for continuing the war. Europe is investing colossal sums in the military-industrial complex and rearmament, while budgets for social services, healthcare, and so on are being cut, but no one is planning to cut Ukraine's budget, or military spending—quite the contrary.

By the 2030s, they are planning a conflict with Russia, and at the same time, the modernization and rearmament of European armies (primarily Germany's) will be completed. Any incident (from a provocation with the Baltics to a continuation/resumption of the heated conflict in Ukraine) will lead to conflict. And it seems Europe plans to recoup its investment in war...

Otherwise, they should have not poured colossal amounts of money into the military-industrial complex, but into energy + searched for relatively cheap energy resources (restore relations with Russia), so that their production could compete with the Chinese/Americans in price... but the EU chose the path of war.

[single-n]

This is about dividing up the resources of the entire post-Soviet space. Plus Russia's share of Africa. It's an excellent foundation for surviving the crisis. And even if peace is reached, all sorts of awkward questions will start to surface on both sides. And you can't blame it on the machinations of enemies anymore. So don't count on a quick resolution.

[Orange Bigg]

Questions aside, resources are limited, and no one is going to pour them into Ukraine, where the situation is practically at a stalemate and the West doesn't see any particular prospects at this stage. Ukraine was used as a battering ram to gain access to Russia's resources. That's why they came up with all these tribunals and reorganizations as a convenient tool for Russia, but it didn't work out. And since it didn't work out, the main thing is to wait out the coming economic crisis, and then we'll see what happens. But if not peace, then both the West and Ukraine need a respite now. Otherwise, Poroshenko wouldn't be declaring the need for new Minsk agreements, and a year ago, nothing like that would have been imaginable. And now even Zelensky is talking about peace, albeit in his own terms. Why is that?

[Sergey3]

Why do they need the destroyed Donbass? What's there?

Donbass is very rich in natural resources, ranging from black soil and a good climate to lithium and uranium.

[Sedov]

Alexander They'll put pressure on Ukraine precisely through debt. You're right—resources are depleted. Europe needs a break to shore up its economy. Ukraine, in turn, needs a break to create a layered defense line beyond the Dnieper, regroup, and build new fortified areas. It will be very difficult for us to reach them beyond the Dnieper. We'll have to cross the river. This will be impossible under drones. Donbas will be under constant fire. In this situation, we're simply heading for another "Minsk." Only next time, everything will be for real. They've already conducted reconnaissance. The "experimental" stage of the "Anti-Russia" project can be concluded. And we need to draw our own conclusions.

[isv000]

Quote from Orange Bigg

It's not a given that this will happen again. It's unlikely that Kyiv will find as many resources as were allocated over the past 4,5 years.

They'll find the means and resources, because fighting a Russian army at the peak of its combat experience, as they say in Little Russia, is a fool's errand. They'll throw some sprat-like scum into the fire, some gypsies with Maya the Bee, and finally some logs, but the dog-knights will come when everything burns down to the last ember. Then the remaining young Europeans will be expended, and only then will the EU either congratulate "brotherly" Russia on its victory or risk going on a campaign, its final campaign...

[Salimi from Iran]

Why do they need donbas?

This has more of a symbolic meaning. The debate is about which is more important: the West or Russia? A liberal globalist world or a conservative multipolar world? Listen: under Stalin and Khrushchev, you twice tried to seize the Western fortress, West Berlin, and failed. The same goes for the Kuril Islands. Under Tsar Nicholas II, you tried to seize Königsberg. Now we have the same problem, only in a different region. Otherwise, your country definitely has more resources than it needs.

[gsev]

Quote: Salimi from iran

During the time of Tsar Nicholas II, you tried to capture Königsberg.

A direct takeover is almost never possible. The USSR gained significant strength under Khrushchev, when it was able to promote metallurgical and mechanical engineering technologies in India, North Korea, and China, oil in the Arab world, and education in Africa. As soon as technological lag set in, Russia's influence began to wane, first in Afghanistan, then in Central Europe, and under Putin in the former USSR. The same is true of Iran. The IRGC lost its military role in Syria and squandered its allies' strength in Yemen and Lebanon. But Iranian engineers, having developed modern weapons, were able to restore Iran's influence and prestige even during the joint US-Israeli intervention against it.

[Azimutt]

Russia has abundant natural resources, particularly oil and gas, but its demand for them is much greater than that of Europe. No Russian city, except perhaps the southern regions, can survive without heating in the winter. Europe gets by with minimal energy resources (for example, in Spain, winter temperatures in apartments often reach +16°C, and this is not considered unusual). In terms of effective land area (elevation below 2000 m above sea level and average annual temperatures above -5°C), Russia ranks only fifth in the world. Much of Russia is extremely uninhabitable due to climate conditions and remoteness, and although natural resources can be extracted there, high costs may make their extraction unprofitable.

[Salimi from Iran]

Yes, perhaps one of the main reasons for the Russian attack was not even NATO expansion, but the fact that Russia believed that without Ukraine's resources, it would be at a disadvantage in competition with Europe.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Pavel57

then everything became more and more violent.

And for us, from a worse position.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Quote: Pavel57

then everything became more and more violent.

And for us, from a worse position.

You've probably forgotten what our positions were after March 2022 and the failed negotiations in Istanbul. I'm not even talking about November 2022.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

What does March have to do with it?!!!!
The next start will be worse than February 24, 22, which in turn was worse than 14.

[Orange Bigg]

Well, something needs to be done to prevent things from getting worse. We held tank biathlons until 2022 and thought everything was fine. It was only later that the experience of the North Caucasus Military District showed what was happening. Ukraine, meanwhile, had been preparing since 2015, plus Western aid to everyone.

[UAZ 452]

Even after the Russo-Japanese war it was said:

The fleet, which was preparing for the Imperial reviews, lost to the fleet, which was preparing for war.

Veselago F.F.
If we keep stepping on the same rake over and over again, it's a sign of our (un)learning ability. Alas...
And if we don't eradicate these cockroaches from our minds, it won't matter whether we continue battering our heads against Ukrainian fortifications without a break or take a breather—it won't make any difference. Continuing with what we're doing now will simply multiply our losses, which are supposedly lower than Ukraine's, but they claimed the same thing, for example, during the Finnish Winter War, only to later admit that the Red Army lost two and a half times more dead than the Finns, who had virtually no air force or tank units. And if there's a pause, if we return to the parades and biathlons beloved by our gerontocrats in uniform and without epaulets, the enemy will easily exploit this pause far more efficiently than we can.
To survive as a state, not even to win, Russia must change, and moving beds around won't cut it. Whether or not there will be a pause in hostilities is a secondary question.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: UAZ 452

Russia must change

Are you talking about revolution? Is there a party that will lead it?

[Gavrilo Princip]

Beer Lovers Party.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: UAZ 452

that the Red Army lost two and a half times more killed than the Finns, who had practically no aviation or tank units.

By the way, to be fair, if you consider that we were attacking enemy forces prepared for defense, the ratio is actually quite good.

[STORM 12]

The Red Army lost two and a half times more killed than the Finns, who had virtually no aviation or tank units.
Who told you it was an expert? - The Finns.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote from Orange Bigg

And Ukraine has been preparing since 2015, plus Western assistance to everyone.

So now, if the peace treaty is signed, she will prepare and by the year 30 she will become a magnificent and motivated battering ram.

[gsev]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

And for us, from a worse position.

In 2014, Russians were on the brink of genocide against ethnic Russians in Crimea. But in 2022, they made genocide against ethnic Russians in the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) impossible. Ukraine, in its attempts to ban the Orthodox Church and the Russian language, lost one-third of its population to refugees. Those who served in the Ukrainian Armed Forces became drug addicts. A demographic catastrophe has befallen the Russophobic Ukrainian state and its Russophobic people.

[Sergei Fonov]

"Those who served in the Ukrainian Armed Forces became drug addicts."
You're saying that our army hasn't been able to defeat an army of drug addicts for five years now. That's quite a bold statement. We see Ukrainian citizens' attitudes toward the war on TV every day. They vote against it with their feet, running away from the Transcaucasian Central District.

[gsev]

Quote: Sergei Fonov

You mean to say that our army has been unable to defeat the army of drug addicts for five years now.

In 2014, European media openly claimed that European military resources were approximately 17 times greater than Russia's. Accordingly, Ukraine could fully mobilize 17 times more people than Russia by arming and supplying the Ukrainian Armed Forces with European funds. Modern drugs can significantly enhance combat effectiveness. In Mumbai, a terrorist, having received approximately 10 gunshot wounds, simply feigned exhaustion, let security forces close in, and calmly resumed shooting, maintaining a mortally wounded man's faster reactions and accuracy than the uninjured security forces who were not drugged. Two of my work partners took part in the Kyiv Maidan protests. In one case, a woman returned from Kyiv sick after eating free Nuland cookies after 2014. In the second case, a young man decided to expose Putin's propaganda and took a drug test after the Maidan protests. A good addiction specialist diagnosed him as an addict after the examination.

[Sergei Fonov]

There are drugs and alcohol on the front lines, but it's not comparable to Mumbai. I went to Maidan four or five times without any negative consequences, but drugs are present in any major city.

[gsev]

Quote: Sergei Fonov

I went to the Maidan 4-5 times without any negative consequences.

Nevertheless, get checked by an endocrinologist, a neurologist, and a psychiatrist. Combat drug use leaves its mark. I suspect drugs have even been administered at psychology seminars since 1995. A very unusual mood and euphoria appear and persist for several months after attending a seminar like Lifespring. Incidentally, knowledgeable people assured me that the organizers pass information about Lifespring attendees not only to the CIA, but also to the FSB and Taliban intelligence.

[Sergei Fonov]

From the current perspective, this looks more like a truce than a lasting peace. The situation in Ukraine won't change immediately after the elections, but eight to ten years could change a lot. The only question is, in what direction? A softening or a hardening of positions?

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Sergei Fonov

From today's perspective, it looks like a truce,

We've already been through the Finnish War, which resulted in the annexation of the Baltic states... But we couldn't avoid a world war. We were stronger then, we had responsibility, discipline, and purpose; we had 15 fraternal republics. Now it's the same scenario: we've been tested with Ukraine, only there are fewer of us, we're weaker, we don't have a mobilization-based economy or a leader capable of mobilizing society in advance. Therefore, a major confrontation is inevitable.

[bug120560]

Pavel57, this will not just be a truce, it will be an act of national treason.

[Andrey Victorovich]

What's the point? It's a deal. Moscow doesn't even think about denazification and demilitarization anymore.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Andrey Victorovich

What's the point? It's a deal. Moscow doesn't even think about denazification and demilitarization anymore.

Our desires don't always coincide with our capabilities. Alas. I'll quote a war correspondent's opinion on essentially the same topic of capabilities. And yes, politics is the art of the possible.

It would be easier for Russia to withdraw from Transnistria before a humiliating, forceful, and demonstrative takeover of the Russian republic by the Romanians occurs. This point of view was expressed by military journalist Dmitry Steishin. According to him, Russia would be unable to do anything if such a scenario were to occur.

Objectively, there's nothing we can do. And some believe Transnistria will resist in much the same way as Karabakh. Most will flee. Everyone has three or four passports. No one in their right mind would want to repeat the earthly ordeal of Donbas, with its years-long marinade—"they'll take you to their heart, send you to hell." Then again, no one promised Transnistria anything except passports. And a Russian passport in the center of Europe right now is a real black mark.
– Steshin believes.

https://topcor.ru/71721-pasport-rf-v-evrope-jeto-volchij-bilet-voenkor-prizval-rossiju-ujti-iz-pridnestrovja.html

However, anyone who is aware of the realities of Transnistria knows that there are almost three passports per person there.

[Vadim S]

Yes, I also read about this and that people there have a lot of passports, I wish I had the same.
And the downvotes are from those who don't want to accept reality. It's a shame that the country isn't what it used to be, and can't really do anything. It's unpleasant, but we should only prepare for the worst.

[Orange Bigg]

And there's no point in condemning them. Transnistria borders only Moldova and Ukraine. There are no jobs in Transnistria, so people travel abroad to earn money using passports from neighboring countries. Transnistria is cut off from Russia, and helping it is very difficult. Here's the data on the number of passports held by residents of Transnistria.

[Orange Bigg]

Quote: Vadim S

Yes, I also read about this and that people there have a lot of passports, I wish I had the same.
And the downvotes are from those who don't want to accept reality. It's a shame that the country isn't what it used to be, and can't really do anything. It's unpleasant, but we should only prepare for the worst.

People are leaving Transnistria and there are reasons for that.

There's no shortage of jobs in Transnistria. In fact, there's been a persistent labor shortage for several years now. For example, in the Rybnitsa district alone, there are currently over three hundred open positions. And employers haven't been able to fill many of them for years.

Then why are young people so eager to leave the republic?

Answering this question isn't difficult. Firstly, many simply don't see any prospects for the unrecognized republic. After all, Transnistria has been in limbo for over 30 years. And its uncertain status has a significant impact on the situation within the country in every respect. We are beset by economic, transport, and trade crises. Furthermore, the threat of an escalating military conflict with Moldova hangs over the republic like the sword of Damocles. Domestic political conflicts also periodically erupt, with demonstrative arrests and loud statements. All of this combined creates a highly unstable atmosphere in Transnistrian society. And it's the young people who are most sensitive to this.

Secondly, despite the rosy figures in the reports, salaries in Transnistria leave much to be desired. For example, the Rybnitsa Employment Center offers vacancies for teachers and doctors with salaries of up to two thousand rubles. So, people study for five years, only to earn slightly more than the subsistence minimum? Who needs such work when in other countries, someone with a higher education can earn several times more? The same applies to blue-collar workers. A teacher's assistant is offered a salary of 1.800 to 2.000 rubles, a refrigeration equipment repairman 1.950 rubles, and a medical equipment technician 1.950 rubles. Yes, there may be bonuses, diploma bonuses, and other payments that would increase the salary. But what if there aren't? So, you have to make do with the subsistence minimum. But sooner or later, a young person will have a family, children. How will they feed them? That's why Transnistrian youth are leaving – because in Russia, for example, they have better prospects in terms of career growth, salary, and many other areas.

https://m.vk.com/wall-208778787_3784

[al3x]

It's unpleasant, but you have to prepare for the worst.

We need to focus on our own territory and invest in it, not sponsor who knows who, who knows where, who knows why, and who knows what for. After all, in the end, those we helped will still end up spitting in our backs. "Business only"—then we can prepare for the best. But the main stumbling block is the oligarchy, intertwined with the government, which is bolstered by all sorts of raw materials, which we're so tightly dependent on.

[matwey]

What's the point? It's a deal. Moscow doesn't even think about denazification and demilitarization anymore.

What about the word ROOT CAUSES? Or do you find it unsettling? Or perhaps you simply don't hear it, or don't want to hear it...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: matwey

What about the word ROOT CAUSES? Or do you find it unsettling? Or perhaps you simply don't hear it, or don't want to hear it...

And the root causes have now been eliminated. The outskirts are not accepted into NATO.
As for the president’s statement: “The situation on the battlefield is developing in such a way that it gives us the right to say that the situation is nearing its end.”
I'm sure Putin isn't being told the truth about the situation on the battlefield. Otherwise, he wouldn't be making such statements. I'm not saying things are bad at the front—they are—but I don't think there's any reason to be optimistic either.

[solar]

And the root causes have now been eliminated. The outskirts are not accepted into NATO.

Well, they hadn't taken her before either.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote from solar

I never took it before either.

They would have taken it if it weren’t for our strong opposition.

[Andrey Victorovich]

Here is the bitter truth about the "end of the conflict": [media=https://vkvideo.ru/video-233810419_456239018] (speeches by MGIMO professor, SVR professor Bezrukov).

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

If they actually sign a truce in the fall, the whole world will be walking all over us. The goals of the Central Military District have not been achieved. Nothing has been achieved. And what fiery speeches there were on February 24.02! So much for "we are a powerful nation." Shameful. And I'm not even talking about reparations. Apparently, they'll take 300 billion, immediately and without any objections from us.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

If they actually sign a truce in the fall, the whole world will be walking all over us. The goals of the Central Military District have not been achieved. Nothing has been achieved. And what fiery speeches there were on February 24.02! So much for "we are a powerful nation." Shameful. And I'm not even talking about reparations. Apparently, they'll take 300 billion, immediately and without any objections from us.

I don't quite understand the point of such a funeral proclamation, based on bare assumptions like, "If they really do sign a truce in the fall...etc." Isn't it easier to wait for the actual developments, or is it more enjoyable to tear your hair out in advance while tearfully lamenting, "So much for 'we are a powerful nation.' Shame."? Have you been reading tea leaves?

[Nastia makarova]

Why aren't you at the front?

[Pasus]

Europeans are good at counting money and accurately balance their debits and credits. Apparently, the war is entering a loss-making phase (taking into account investments in land and resources), and the Kremlin knows this, hence the corresponding statements.
Zeleboba also voices the opinion of the European collective farm.
It all seems logical.

[TermNachTer]

People love to look for hidden meanings where there aren't any. You can ignore the green man's crowing; it means nothing. Putin always talked about a possible peaceful resolution to the conflict. His words today don't change anything he said before.

[Volodin]

Quote: TermNachTER

People love to look for hidden meanings where there are none.

If they're hidden, then sure. But here, everything is completely open.

[alexoff]

Talking about peace today is roughly the same as telling an entire generation about peace in 1938. Capitalist countries are in huge debt, and when a capitalist runs low on money, he turns into a fascist.

[al3x]

It could be done sooner. It's becoming too much for everyone, both morally and financially. For once, I agree with Putin on this.

[tabex]

What's the point, what's the point? Now they'll take a list of everyone here who "can repeat," hold explanatory talks, and that's it, we'll make peace along the existing border, with reparations paid out of your pensions.

[Montezuma]

Quote: tabex

What's the point, what's the point? Now they'll take a list of everyone here who "can repeat," hold explanatory talks, and that's it, we'll make peace along the existing border, with reparations paid out of your pensions.

Lately Baba Vangas have been breeding like rabbits - every comment is a pearl of clairvoyance.

[Gardamir]

Despite statements about negotiations, hostilities continue, and the parties accuse each other of breaking agreements on local ceasefires (for example, during attempts to establish a ceasefire in the spring of 2026). Diplomatic contacts continue with international mediation, but until a full peace treaty is signed, the positions of the parties remain radically opposed.

[north 2]

No, but the country won't be able to withstand such a blow if, based on the results of the autumn parliamentary elections, the Tereshkovs, Rodnins, Tretyakovs, Shoigs, Kargapolovs, etc., and their party are voted out!!! And that's why their leaders decide that the conflict with Ukraine must "happen" and, in the face of such a danger, the initial tasks of the SVO and the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, which, according to the Constitution, are part of Russia, "besides". Denazification is no longer worth mentioning. And as you noticed, even this article no longer mentions Russia's SVO in Ukraine, it mentions the conflict... On the other hand, looking at Zyuganov's Kalashnikovs and their ilk, led by Zyuganov himself, it's better to let the party of the Tereshkovs and Rodnins remain in power after the elections. In short, we will again not hear the familiar and confident, - THERE IS SUCH PARTY...

[tabex]

There's one member of parliament from the core, Zhanna Ryabtseva, in the Duma. I'd like to see her in the new composition; she's perhaps the only human face in the faction. But I'm afraid her own people will push her out. She's just too much of a thorn in the side of the ruling thieves in the regions.

[north 2]

Airat, I agree with your opinion. Of course, there are decent people in the Duma. But what's their ratio to those just sitting there, wearing out their pants and skirts? Those who... We don't plow, we don't sow, we don't build, we're proud of our social system... They used to be proud of one system, but they squandered it. Now they've quickly taken over again to sing the same song under a different system. And I agree with you that they're not just empty talkers.

[Ruslan M]

There's nothing behind these promises. The population is simply tired of this darkness and has started asking too many unnecessary questions. So, to reassure them, they spun out this story that it will all soon be over. But in reality, the US still benefits from this conflict, and therefore it will continue.

[next322]

A war ineptly begun is also ineptly ending... The results are staggering, not a single goal has been achieved. Denazification and the demilitarization of Salo-Reich are a thing of the past. Huge losses at the front, cities and villages of Donbas, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia reduced to ashes, deserted forever. And most importantly, after all this is over, the Ukrainian Reich will join NATO, with all the consequences for the Russian Federation. What was all this for?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Alex, I agree with you... And how cheerfully the 24.02th of February was announced. "Denazification", "Demilitarization"... How many big words there were... And what was the result?..

[DOR2]

Experts say the number of billions of dollars in Russia has increased significantly. The elite's relatives and capital remain abroad, just as they were before. The emperor on the golden throne is neither alive nor dead, his balls are flabby, and he's afraid to use them. What result can we expect from all this?

[Uncle Sam_2]

It's just that "we were deceived again"... And if it weren't for that, then UHH, how we would have given them!

[andrey martov]

After such statements from top officials, crowds of cunning people rush to the military registration and enlistment offices to have their cake and eat it and become a hero of the Soviet Military District. . . I remember the president of the USSR advertising pizza for a fee of 100 thousand dollars. . . . The current ones, of course, charge more. . .

[Nastia makarova]

Who's running to the military registration and enlistment office?????

[Andrey Mishin]

We need to advance around Orekhovo and encircle Burluk—those are the main axes. Ukraine is in a disadvantageous position—it's losing territory, becoming increasingly exhausted, and the situation on the front is slowly deteriorating. Zelenskyy will try to trade the security strip for the DPR; the strip is currently smaller, but it will be equalized by autumn. But the danger for Ukraine is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces could crumble, so Ukraine, the Americans, and Europe are monitoring the situation.

[Hamburger]

Meiner Meinung nach gibt es zwischen den Aussagen von Präsident Putin und Selenskyj keinen inneren Zusammenhang, so dass man darüber nicht zu spekulieren braucht.

Ich halte es für einen Fehler, daß Putin vom baldigen Ende des Krieges sprach, obwohl die ursprünglichen Ziele keinesfalls erreicht oder auch nur in Sicht sind. Man könnte die Aussage so deuten, dass über einen sogenannten Waffenstillstand verhandelt wird, aber nach all den Opfern wäre es eine Niederlage! Russland muss den Krieg bis zum Sieg fortsetzen. Wenn die bisherige Kriegsführung nicht zum Erfolg führte, müssen eben andere Methoden angewandt werden.

Ja, das sagt sich leicht. Aber letztlich geht es um die Existenz Russlands! Der Westen würde einen Waffenstillstand nur zum Aufrüsten nutzen, um dann mit größerer Gewalt über Russland herzufallen.

[solar]

There's a third theory. Negotiations to end the war are actually ongoing, but they're not being publicly announced. And some kind of resolution has been reached during these negotiations.

[Zheka111]

Well, well, they feed the hopes of young men.
The war in Ukraine will end, but a new one will begin somewhere else.
No one lags behind Russia.
The entire world is actively spinning the flywheel of war, and it is simply impossible to stop it in the "near future."

[Pilot]

The louder the talk of peace, the more it seems almost synchronous, the further in time the advent of that very peace is pushed back. A long-known axiom, dating back several thousand years. Nothing new.

[easy]

This could indicate that the match-fixing flywheel has begun to spin. In short, everything is in Feng Shui mode—money rules the world, and verbal threats and "a man's word" remain behind the scenes.

[Alexandra]

One version is that the conflict has reached a stage where it is starting to take away more than it brings.

An ongoing war always "takes more than it brings." Victory in war brings much. But before victory, war mostly takes. Defeat in war brings nothing.

Let's start with the fact that Ukraine has already lost the war, and lost it back in 2023. A proxy war is currently underway between Russia and the European Union, in which what remains of Ukraine is being used as a military instrument, financed and supplied by the EU. Most interestingly, the EU is currently the main financial donor and supplier of the lion's share of material resources for the ongoing war. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian instrument is being directly directed from London, the capital of a country that is not even a member of the EU.

This is "aerobatics" - the war continues primarily in British interests, and the main donor of this war is not Great Britain, but the EU, whose leaders are seriously mistaken about whose interests the war continues.

We're witnessing similar aerobatics in the Middle East today. The US can't find a "winnable" way out of the war with Iran, a war waged primarily in Israel's interests.

We shouldn't expect either a quick end to the Central Military District or a quick end to the war in the Middle East. On the contrary, I would expect a large-scale war in the Far East and an escalation of a couple of other low-intensity armed conflicts in Africa in the foreseeable future.

[Carlos Hall]

The situation on the battlefield is developing in such a way that we can confidently say that the conflict is nearing its end. Perhaps you are being misled and not being told the truth. The offensive is making virtually no progress. Compared to last year, the pace of the offensive has slowed sharply.

[Comrade Kim]

You can declare a lot, but will it work?
The fact that the bloody clown has recently been referred to as "Mr. Zelensky" is certainly a worrying sign. For three years, our media have been talking about the Kyiv junta, the regime, neo-Nazis, and so on, which has eliminated any possibility of Putin meeting with the leader of the Ukrainian Reich (how could Putin shake hands with the leader of the junta when they meet?).
After the monstrous murder of students, no one will dare call him (Zelensky) a gentleman.
It's like going into negotiations with Doctor Death (Josef Mengele).
And why would the Chabad megacorporation Black Rock buy up all of Ukraine? For the sake of peace?
No, that's not what these guys came for.
They will fight until they win.
If there is a respite, it will be to gather strength and try to destroy us.
Any negotiations with Ukraine are a path to shame.
If you don’t believe me, ask Yanukovych, he knows how to screw up a country.

[gridasov]

We can only talk about a change in the situation and the shift from one dominant aspect of the confrontation to another. New input circumstances can and should be discussed and modeled at different levels of scaling events based on their significance and impact on key developments. Therefore, the intellectual aspects of working with big data, such as mathematical methods, are the most important thing Russia needs in planning for future developments.

[Keperveem72]

It's worth nothing. Zelenskyy won't be able to leave Donbas. Russia won't be able to give up on Donbas, and so on. We'll keep hammering them into the dark ages. Maybe it's for the best if we remove all the emotions and slogans. As for war fatigue, I don't see any fatigue yet. There's a desire to glaze Ukraine, Germany, France, and England. It's a good and useful idea.

[Mikhail3]

In fact, serious bourgeois scholars have begun publishing papers claiming that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are already on the verge of collapse. Their calculations, which predate Iran, project results for this fall. When the Ukrainian Armed Forces simply fall apart, unable to hold their positions due to a simple lack of manpower.
Let me remind you – this isn't our propaganda. The Australian and the Americans have never been known to have any political sympathies...