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Russia and Iran can not defend themselves in Syria, but counterattack

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Russia and Iran can not defend themselves in Syria, but counterattackBy the will of fate, Russia has recently defended itself, defending its interests and its allies. In the face of a united coalition of invaders against Syria, one should not think only about defense. This can lead to a loss of political initiative and a final defeat in the conflict.


Syria is under pressure from countries that themselves have many problems. In addition to helping Syria itself, it makes sense for Russia to think about how to use the problems and contradictions of several countries that make up this strange coalition and only recently united against Syria Turkey-Israel-Arab countries of the Persian Gulf (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain and others).

Turkey, which only recently had a rather friendly attitude towards Russia, has now become its geopolitical adversary. Turkey is a fragment of the Ottoman Empire, and on the territory of Turkey, along the borders of Turkey, many nations live in neighboring countries, and not all of them are satisfied with Turkish nationalism.
I do not want to say the words about Kurdistan, which have filled the teeth with teeth for many years - the current Turkish authorities are the only ones who are seriously trying to solve this problem. This old trump card against Turkey is not working now. Negotiations are under way with Ojallan and other Kurdish Turkish leaders. But in addition to the Kurds in Turkey there are several other minority groups, and some of them live on the border with Syria. Their leaders are negotiating with both Assad and Erdogan.

On the eastern border of Turkey, not everything is so cloudless either. Periodically, conflicts arise on the border of Turkey and Iraq, as the Turkish army tries to suppress Kurdish resistance. The Iraqi government, which includes Kurds, is extremely negative about the shelling and invasion of Turkish troops on its territory. On the western border of Turkey, the Cyprus-Northern Cyprus problems are not resolved. In this area, large reserves of natural gas have been explored, and deposits are located in the undivided territorial waters of Lebanon, Northern Cyprus, Cyprus and Israel. Not everything is in order in Turkey’s relations with European countries. As for the military confrontation with Russia, a direct Turkish military attack on Syria can be prevented by a short march of a small compound of the Black Sea ships fleet to the largest Turkish city on the shores of the Bosphorus.

Saudi Arabia is a large state only by area. The Saudi Arabian army has low combat capability in real conflicts, as it turned out in 1991 during the Iraq conflict with Kuwait, and later during the conflicts with Yemen. The population of Saudi Arabia is 21 million, the population of Yemen is 24 million, and the Yemeni army, hardened in a continuous civil war, despite the backward technology, is more capable than the Saudi one. There are plenty of reasons and reasons for conflicts between the two neighboring countries. Now the frightened authorities of Saudi Arabia are building a fence on the border with Yemen.

In Saudi Arabia itself, too, is restless. The aged king has a huge number of relatives. The heirs die before the 89-year-old king, who is also about to go to another world. What will happen after his death, what policy will the new king pursue, will the unity of this country be maintained? In eastern Saudi Arabia, there are Shiite Arabs, who make up a significant proportion of the population in several districts, periodically opposing certain government actions.

One of the states of the anti-Syrian coalition is a small Bahrain, in which the majority of the population (over 75% of the population) are Shiites. The ruling royal dynasty is Sunni. The Shiite uprising that flared up in 2011 was brutally suppressed by the authorities with the help of the Saudi Arabian army. Bahrain’s oil reserves are running low.

Perhaps the leaders of Russia and Iran, in addition to direct military assistance to Syria, can also think about increasing direct military assistance to Yemen, and the leaders of China to Sudan. Perhaps you need to think about improving relations with the new Iraq. It is possible that reducing Russian tourism and weakening the degree and degree of confidence in Russian-Turkish relations can help Turkish leaders to think about their wrong geopolitical choice, in which Turkey plays a subordinate role to the West and the Gulf countries.

One of the most important conditions for the stabilization of the situation in Syria is to gain time and close the borders to deprive Syrian militants of support from the outside.

Another factor that is associated with gaining time is the possible demise of the King of Saudi Arabia.

Perhaps you need to establish some contacts with the leaders of the regions and tribes of Saudi Arabia, who may have their own interests. Much of the oil production in Saudi Arabia is concentrated in the east of the country, in the area where the Shiites live, but the central and western regions of the country enjoy all the benefits of oil.

Geopolitical opposition is multifactorial, and for successful opposition to a strong opponent or a strong coalition, sometimes attacking or counterattacking is more advantageous than just a defensive strategy.
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  1. Vtel
    Vtel 23 May 2013 16: 01 New
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    Turkey, until recently quite friendly with Russia, has now become its geopolitical adversary.

    Yes, the Turks have never been friendly to us - however, history, rags and other Turkish junk, tour trips are food for non-patriots of Russia. It’s time to economically put pressure on the enemies, but for our elite, the Turks are not enemies - they consider revenues in their pocket, and our people - Turkish noodles.
    1. Russian
      Russian 23 May 2013 18: 11 New
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      Interesting judgments, it would be nice to really put them into practice. And it would be nice to deal with the direct creators of this mess, the USA and England, and how many of our guys died during the Chechen war, and how many are dying so far, and they have put a lot of effort into this!
      But, thank God that you reap, you will reap, only today I saw on the news how in England two Muslim blacks were slaughtered with military cleaver in broad daylight, they played out! I wish them a further escalation of the conflict, they have sheltered a lot of people there, now let them get even for their sins.
      1. BDRM 667
        BDRM 667 23 May 2013 23: 54 New
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        Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
        Interesting judgments, it would be nice to really put them into practice.

        A long-known principle, divide and conquer, in a modern manner, taking into account the realities of today's Middle East.
        Enough stupid substitute under the blow.TIME TO APPLY THE PRINCIPLE AIKIDO
      2. elmir15
        elmir15 24 May 2013 15: 02 New
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        Russia and Iran can not defend themselves in Syria, but counterattack

        It would be time for Russia to openly declare support for Syria and Iran, to show their interests, and not be shy as others say. We must justify the status of a superpower.
    2. evfrat
      evfrat 23 May 2013 18: 27 New
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      Do not forget about the subversive activities of Turkey in the Caucasus, which only intensified with the collapse of the USSR. Chechen bandits would have been deprived of many successes in 90, if not for Turkey. The concept of the Great Turan, although a little real, is basically anti-Russian. The Turks destroyed our co-religionists with the most inhumane methods, today they want to solve the Armenian issue by the hands of Azerbaijanis. After the termination of support for the PKK, Ocalan had to look for other sources of help and we lost the “Kurdish argument” against Turkey. If Russia continues to fearfully and stealthily defend itself, we will not be not only a power, but simply a territory.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 23 May 2013 21: 31 New
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        Quote: evfrat
        Do not forget about the subversive activities of Turkey in the Caucasus, which only intensified with the collapse of the USSR. Chechen bandits would have been deprived of many successes in 90, if not for Turkey. The concept of the Great Turan, although a little real, is basically anti-Russian. The Turks destroyed our co-religionists with the most inhumane methods, today they want to solve the Armenian issue by the hands of Azerbaijanis. After the termination of support for the PKK, Ocalan had to look for other sources of help and we lost the “Kurdish argument” against Turkey. If Russia continues to fearfully and stealthily defend itself, we will not be not only a power, but simply a territory.

        Nonsense and completely baseless words !!
        As for the Armenians, so far they have destroyed the Azerbaijanis and before that the Turks, and Russian officers wrote about this, including Generals Mayevsky, Ordoshelidze, Nikolaev and many other officers!
        Here they discussed it!
        http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoci

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        1. evfrat
          evfrat 23 May 2013 23: 46 New
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          Did you pay them back in Sumgait? Women and teens? Trampling the old people?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 24 May 2013 00: 08 New
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            Quote: evfrat
            Did you pay them back in Sumgait? Women and teens? Trampling the old people?

            If you carefully read the topic proposed by me, you would not have such questions!




            on the contrary, they kind of win back on us and mainly on women, children and the elderly !!




            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 24 May 2013 13: 52 New
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              Regarding the genocide in Sumgayit, if the video is true, then the question immediately arises, who is the sponsor of this planned action and who needed to kill the Armenians? Obviously not the Armenians and their authorities, because Azerbaijan’s reaction could destroy even more Armenians .. then from whose order it all happened, who benefits from a hot spot in this region of the USSR? In general, it’s pointless to blame any of the peoples, someone skillfully provoked a conflict that could happen between anyone, even between the Norwegians and Danes, with the same provocations ..
        2. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 24 May 2013 10: 57 New
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          dear about the destruction, it’s mutual with you. unfortunately. and in no way did the Azerbaijanian differ in pogroms from the Armenian. The atrocities on both sides were wild.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 24 May 2013 11: 46 New
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            Quote: 3 inches.
            dear about the destruction, it’s mutual with you. unfortunately. and in no way did the Azerbaijanian differ in pogroms from the Armenian. The atrocities on both sides were wild.

            This is not the question! Watch and read carefully!
            The organizers of the killings were always Armenians!
            Including in Sumgait, there was Grigoryan!
            It was not I who arrested the Armenians there, killing the Armenians and inciting the crowd, but the prosecutor's office of the USSR!
            And we with women and children did not fight and do not fight !!
            Azerbaijani is different from Armenian bandits !!
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 24 May 2013 12: 01 New
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              Including was Grigoryan. That is, Azerbaijani names are not on this list. And it is interesting how the Azerbaijani bandit differs from the Armenian? About the fact that they did not fight with women and children again. And who killed them then? Probably the Armenians to blame you? Stupidity utterly obscure. the pogroms in 88-90 in baku ganja shemakh is probably the Armenians themselves and the Russians burned trampled alive and cut into pieces. Of course you did not arrest them, but you protect them.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 25 May 2013 10: 43 New
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                Nobody touched the Russians with a finger. In fact, smart people listen to both sides, and then make a final decision. And you always have to watch the one-goal game. Often we read the "clever" judgments of a "Caucasian specialist" who did not stand close during the events.
                1. evfrat
                  evfrat 26 May 2013 19: 42 New
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                  When you're lying brazenly, think, suddenly witnesses are nearby ...
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 24 May 2013 12: 07 New
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              Good afternoon, Alibek.
              Greetings to everyone else.
              Alibek, Please note that propaganda from Armenia has always been stronger than Azerbaijani. And today, nothing has changed. It is for this reason that it will be extremely difficult for you to prove anything, much less convince anyone. But, I already spoke about it once.
              1. 3 inches.
                3 inches. 24 May 2013 12: 21 New
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                also what propaganda. I have the same attitude towards Armenians as I do towards Azerbaijanis. but when a person bears nonsense, I’m not sorry. by the time I was describing, I was already 17. in 91 I got to serve in the operational regiment of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and we had enough officers and ensigns who saw these events ourselves. Once again I will repeat by cruelty both sides were equal, and not as the alibek writes. says that there is a difference between the bandits, but which one does not indicate. The only difference is that one of them is his own and the other is a stranger, as it is not an argument.
                1. evfrat
                  evfrat 24 May 2013 12: 51 New
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                  It is pure fascism - to say that one people is not to blame for anything, and that they are all Armenians. I myself am Russian and I understand that the question is complex. And in my first post I did not blame the Azerbaijanis, I said that on ethnic and religious differences, the Azerbaijanis again want to solve the issue of Armenians using known methods. In general, I don’t remember something of your people there throughout the vast history of the Armenians.
                  1. 3 inches.
                    3 inches. 24 May 2013 12: 57 New
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                    hands with hands. I still want to understand where such atrocities come from in people's heads. Moreover, on both sides, well, if you kill like that, kill, but why bother with people like that while it’s not working out in your head.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 24 May 2013 15: 15 New
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                      Quote: 3 inches.
                      hands with hands. I still want to understand where such atrocities come from in people's heads. Moreover, on both sides, well, if you kill like that, kill, but why bother with people like that while it’s not working out in your head.

                      It also didn’t fit in my head when I saw what they were doing with our guys!
                      Apparently these gangsters have this genitical!
                  2. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 24 May 2013 15: 14 New
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                    Quote: evfrat
                    It is pure fascism - to say that one people is not to blame for anything, and that they are all Armenians. I myself am Russian and I understand that the question is complex. And in my first post I did not blame the Azerbaijanis, I said that on ethnic and religious differences, the Azerbaijanis again want to solve the issue of Armenians using known methods

                    You do not know the topic, so think so !!
                    So, in your opinion, in the war against the Germans in 41, ours, too, were atrocious and bear the same responsibility with the German Nazis ????
                    And if I do not recognize this, the inhabitants of the USSR, Russian, Kazakhs, Azerbaijanis, then they are fascists ???
                    Talk nonsense!
                    1. 3 inches.
                      3 inches. 24 May 2013 15: 23 New
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                      please be an example of atrocities on the part of the citizens of the USSR in relation to the civilian population?
                      remotely reminiscent of such as in the case of the Armenians and Azerbaijanis.
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 24 May 2013 18: 15 New
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                        Quote: 3 inches.
                        please be an example of atrocities on the part of the citizens of the USSR in relation to the civilian population?

                        So in the West they still wrote all kinds of crap they write, google !!!
                        about millions of raped tales they write !!
                        So in your SSR is also to blame!
                        And if I do not admit that the USSR is to blame, then am I a fascist ??
                        I ask to find at least one example of atrocities against the civilian population of the soldiers of my Azerbaijani army !!?
                        You will not find it!
                  3. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 25 May 2013 10: 47 New
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                    EVFRAT Because you receive one-way information. On the Web you can get any information. AT DESIRE.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 24 May 2013 15: 11 New
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                  Quote: 3 inches.
                  ... once again I repeat on cruelty, both sides were equal, and not as Alibek writes. He says that there is a difference between the bandits, but what does not indicate. The only difference is that one of them is his own and the other is a stranger, as it is not an argument.

                  See the facts!
                  You cannot bring them !!
                  1. 3 inches.
                    3 inches. 24 May 2013 15: 16 New
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                    By January 12-13, 1990, the Armenian pogroms in Baku acquired an organized and mass character. On January 13, after 17 pm, a crowd of about 50 thousand people who left the rally on Lenin Square, divided into groups, began methodically, “house by house”, to “clear” the city of Armenians. On January 15, pogroms and attacks continued in Baku. In total, according to preliminary data, 33 people died as a result of the clashes in the first three days. However, this figure cannot be considered final, since not all the apartments visited by the rioters have been checked in Baku ... (Izvestia, January 16, 1990). On January 16, 64 pogroms of apartments in which Armenians lived were revealed in Baku ... In the Leninsky district of the capital, 4 charred corpses were discovered that have not yet been identified ... (Izvestia, January 18, 1990). On January 17, 45 pogroms and arsons of residential buildings were committed in Baku. (Izvestia, January 18, 1990, I do not specifically cite Armenian sources.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 24 May 2013 17: 46 New
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                      Quote: 3 inches.
                      By January 12-13, 1990, the Armenian pogroms in Baku acquired an organized and mass character. On January 13, after 17 pm, a crowd of about 50 thousand people who left the rally on Lenin Square, divided into groups, began methodically, “house by house”, to “clear” the city of Armenians. On January 15, pogroms and attacks continued in Baku. In total, according to preliminary data, 33 people died as a result of the clashes in the first three days. However, this figure cannot be considered final, since not all the apartments visited by the rioters have been checked in Baku ... (Izvestia, January 16, 1990). On January 16, 64 pogroms of apartments in which Armenians lived were revealed in Baku ... In the Leninsky district of the capital, 4 charred corpses were discovered that have not yet been identified ... (Izvestia, January 18, 1990). On January 17, 45 pogroms and arsons of residential buildings were committed in Baku. (Izvestia, January 18, 1990, I do not specifically cite Armenian sources.
                      More I understand there are no facts?
                      So I lived in Baku in those days!
                      All streets and courtyards were patrolled by military personnel of the VV!
                      On the day when events began from the streets, all military personnel and policemen disappeared !!
                      There were people in the city whom no one knew and started pogroms !!
                      I am sure that this was a right-wing event and prepared by certain structures, because the power of the CPSU has already lost in Azerbaijan!
                      There was a complete paralysis of power and a reason was needed to send troops to Azerbaijan !!
                      I won’t be surprised if Armenian Dashnaks took an active part in this! By the way, there were no charred corpses in fact! Apparently, the journalist’s imagination!
                      Where are the facts of the brutal killings ???
                      1. 3 inches.
                        3 inches. 24 May 2013 18: 30 New
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                        1. Why was it necessary to bring troops into Azerbaijan? 2 What do you admit for the facts? Corpses? I’m sorry I’m not getting carried away. Once again I’m returning to the source. Why do Armenians and Iserbadjans hate each other so much? It’s very interesting to demand facts from you, citing your surprise as an example the presence of the Dashnaks? is it like that? means the Armenians come to Baku to organize pogroms of Armenians and say it’s not us. That is, they look identical to the locals. Dear, it also looks ridiculous. The police disappeared? But tell me, who are the policemen in the tank? Are they also Armenians? How all neglected. direct occupation
                      2. Scoun
                        Scoun 29 May 2013 19: 01 New
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                        Quote: Yarbay
                        On the day when events began from the streets, all military personnel and policemen disappeared !!

                        Alibek, I will repeat to you my post from another branch.
                        The failure went precisely from the special services.
                        I will try to explain what the failure was ....
                        In the 80s, if I am not mistaken, the “Karimov case” in the Uzbek SSR took place ..
                        when the promotion of this case began, experts from Moscow (KGB) faced local delays, tripping, hiding facts of evidence, not a desire to cooperate .. and this was all due to the fact that people from their region’s region who somehow or other later became members of the KGB’s bodies To "get in touch" with local secretaries and in the future it was these structures who profiled someone who, at the direction of above, at least did not interfere, or even contributed to the heating and promotion of ethnic hatred.
                        If we recall, the Uzbeks passed such skirmishes all over the periphery of the USSR, first they expelled the Meskhetian Turks, then they waved Osh events, the Baltic states, Azerbaijan, etc., etc. into the wave.
                        here is Gorby the bastard.
                  2. 3 inches.
                    3 inches. 24 May 2013 15: 18 New
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                    On the central street of Hagani, the young men raped their mother and daughter - 90 and 70 years old, while trampling them. The faces and bodies of these old women were turned into a bloody mess.
                    There is ample evidence of atrocities and murders committed with extreme cruelty (there were cases, for example, dismemberment of bodies, tearing up the abdomen of pregnant women, burning alive). During the Armenian pogroms in Baku, an angry mob literally tore a man to pieces, and his remains were thrown into a garbage container. (The Union, May 19, 1990).
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 24 May 2013 17: 48 New
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                      Quote: 3 inches.
                      On the central street of Hagani, the young men raped their mother and daughter - 90 and 70 years old, while trampling them. The faces and bodies of these old women were turned into a bloody mess.

                      Give the facts, a criminal case!
                      Tales of Armenian sites and art books are not accepted !!
                      These are all fictional stories!
                      1. 3 inches.
                        3 inches. 24 May 2013 18: 35 New
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                        give facts. tales of Ayberjadjan sites and fiction books are not accepted !! this is all fiction. and finally. here is a quote from an Ayzerjadjan writer, an Azerbaijani writer Um al-Banin (France), whose childhood was spent in Baku. They perfectly demonstrate how the atmosphere of the massacre (Armenian pogroms in 1905-1906) imposes on the psyche of children. Here is how she describes in her book "Caucasian Days" the games of Baku children: "During the holidays we played the massacre of Armenians, a game that we preferred any other. Intoxicated by our racist passions, we sacrificed Tamar (an Armenian by mother) to the altar our atavistic hatred. At first we arbitrarily accused her of killing Muslims and immediately shot her, several times one after another to renew her pleasure. Then she was torn off by the members, tongue, head, entrails that were thrown to the dogs to express contempt for the Armenian flesh. "
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 24 May 2013 20: 17 New
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                        Quote: 3 inches.
                        give facts. tales of Ayberjadjan sites and fiction books are not accepted !! this is all fiction. and finally. here is a quote from an Ayzerjadjan writer, an Azerbaijani writer Um al-Banin (France), whose childhood was spent in Baku. They perfectly demonstrate how the atmosphere of the massacre (Armenian pogroms in 1905-1906) imposes on the psyche of children. Here is how she describes in her book "Caucasian Days" the games of Baku children: "During the holidays we played the massacre of Armenians, a game that we preferred any other. Intoxicated by our racist passions, we sacrificed Tamar (an Armenian by mother) to the altar our atavistic hatred. At first we arbitrarily accused her of killing Muslims and immediately shot her, several times one after another to renew her pleasure. Then she was torn off by the members, tongue, head, entrails that were thrown to the dogs to express contempt for the Armenian flesh. "


                        You see, dear, you read Armenian sites and are unfamiliar with the situation))
                        The fact is that take and read the book Banin !! There is no this passage in the original)))))
                        Read the book in the original (in fr) and be surprised)))
                        By the way, she lived at the beginning of the last century in Baku and witnessed the murder of her relatives in Baku in 1918 by Armenian Dashnaks during the massacre on March 31, 1918 !! And in some books she described those events and it says completely different there!
                        I'm sorry that you use misinformation!
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                3. xetai9977
                  xetai9977 25 May 2013 10: 54 New
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                  3 INCHES In those days, everyone was struck by cynicism and the shameless lies of the Central Television and the Allied press, which everyone considered exemplary. The mass fooling continued systematically. Naturally, people who were far from the epicenter of events did not judge objectively at all.
              2. 3 inches.
                3 inches. 24 May 2013 15: 20 New
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                still need? once again I tell you I do not defend the Armenians and do not blame the Azerbajans. but what you wrote about the fact that the Azerbajans have no relation to this is propaganda.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 24 May 2013 17: 57 New
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                  Quote: 3 inches.
                  still need? once again I tell you I do not defend the Armenians and do not blame the Azerbajans. but what you wrote about the fact that the Azerbajans have no relation to this is propaganda.

                  Very interesting approach)))))
                  Like, both must be to blame)))
                  If not, then this is wrong !!!
                  So the USSR was also to blame when the German fascists attacked us! ???
                  You understand, not knowing what happened, you say that everyone is to blame !!
                  Take an interest read the documents!
                  Compare and draw conclusions!
                  I will introduce you!
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 24 May 2013 15: 11 New
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            Quote: Hedgehog
            Good afternoon, Alibek.
            Greetings to everyone else.
            Alibek, Please note that propaganda from Armenia has always been stronger than Azerbaijani. And today, nothing has changed. It is for this reason that it will be extremely difficult for you to prove anything, much less convince anyone. But, I already spoke about it once.

            Good afternoon!
            Unfortunately, I still do not know your name!
            Of course, you know these questions better, because you lived here and saw everything with your own eyes!
            Here I had a lot of discussion with Armenian colleagues and none of them could bring some facts of atrocities on the part of our soldiers during the war!
            Yes, I would not have fought and would not have served! I had completely different plans in life !!
            As for the propaganda, I agree! Even the people in the USSR did not know about the Grigoryan, and in Russia, too, this was done specifically by the Gorbachev clique !!
            You can talk about this for a long time !!
  • Genady1976
    Genady1976 23 May 2013 18: 47 New
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    I have already written many times that it’s time for our tourism to stop traveling to Turkey and feed
    entih turks
    1. Gagarin
      Gagarin 23 May 2013 19: 56 New
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      I completely agree, but we need to raise the service and lower prices to their level!
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 23 May 2013 21: 25 New
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        Quote: Gagarin
        you need to raise the service and lower prices to their level

        It was a couple of years ago. Saturday, shift day in the holiday home (d / o). A motor ship cruising between Ostashkov and the island on which the village is located. Ahead of me, I am returning to the island, three women are sitting, future vacationers. Loudly discussing their Moscow problems with apartments and their sale. One has a cellphone ringing. She answers and talks about what she saw, recognized the ship by Putin.
        - Imagine here the bus is 15 rubles
        - And you know, the fare on the ship is 12 rubles.
        - But imagine, the night in d / o is a thousand !, No, you count up, sleep a night - a thousand! About food, about excursions, about the arrangement of rooms, about everything else, she modestly remained silent. But there was only four meals a day that year.
        So the question is for you personally. Reduce the price of services. You work there, get N rubles a month. Do you agree to work for N minus M rubles so that I can spend the night not for a thousand, but for 400? Well, if so, have a good trip to Turkey. And I will try again to come to Seliger. It may be more expensive, but not a single goat behind me will strain through its teeth in its native language: Drunks and prostitutes come in large numbers
        1. shark
          shark 24 May 2013 08: 55 New
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          Why doesn’t strain. Procedure. In Russian and strain. Local))))))
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 24 May 2013 10: 16 New
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            Quote: shark
            Why doesn’t strain. Procedure. In Russian and strain. Local))))))

            How do you know, dear. You have no idea what this d / o is. Well, I've never met drunks there. Although I didn’t say anything about those who skipped a pile at lunch (or before), I’m silent, these are not drunks. And for such an awkward attempt to "joke" from me a rare event - minus you!
            1. shark
              shark 25 May 2013 09: 39 New
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              You should make friends with reality, and not with a rainbow worldview
    2. sergaivenski
      sergaivenski 23 May 2013 20: 46 New
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      Personally, I don’t understand one thing: why do our citizens prefer vacation homes and resorts in Russia? And then they scream to the whole world: "Guard, we feel bad!"
      And I do not feel sorry for those who became ill over the hill !!!
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 23 May 2013 21: 36 New
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        In order to defame this thing, you need to go there at least once and see ... there will be much less questions
      2. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 24 May 2013 11: 00 New
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        the essence is simple. unfortunately we have very expensive and no service. on the black sea even fruits in the bazaar are more expensive than in the middle lane. and the most interesting thing is they are also Turkish there! that's such a prose of life.
        1. matross
          matross 24 May 2013 11: 57 New
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          I support! Our Black Sea resorts - Mr.!
          But Seliger can not be compared with warm countries - this is another buzz!
          Normal people have not traveled to Turkey for a long time. Who wants and can have a good rest - take the globe - there, besides Turkey, many different countries are indicated smile And Turkey is a seasonal resort, as well as the very same Seliger!
          So we show the Turks a gesture from the elbow !!
          1. Katsin
            Katsin 27 May 2013 07: 33 New
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            Come to us in Israel !!! You'll like it !!!
    3. Katsin
      Katsin 27 May 2013 07: 31 New
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      Quote: Genady1976
      I have already written many times that it’s time for our tourism to stop traveling to Turkey and feed
      entih turks




      Not all tourists are as ideologically charged as you. We went to Turkey and will go: it’s cheap, the sea and all inclusive
  • waisson
    waisson 23 May 2013 19: 26 New
    +5
    so I tried to speak in a previous article on armaments, we must learn something from them, I spoke in, I got banned
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 23 May 2013 20: 49 New
    +9
    I have said more than once, stop trading and tourist relations. And kirdyk Turkey will be!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 23 May 2013 21: 18 New
      +7
      Quote: vezunchik
      I have said more than once, stop trading and tourist relations. And kirdyk Turkey will be!

      Geopolitics is a complicated thing, and you simply can’t cut it off your shoulder! We are already accused of all mortal sins and problems.
      But it’s worth correctly learning how to play on the problems of other countries. Turkey also tacitly agreed on Russia's non-interference in the Kurdish question. But this is a strong trump card !!! If Turkey competently plays it, it’s not only not to Syria, it itself could face collapse !!!
      1. Van
        Van 23 May 2013 23: 13 New
        +4
        Yes, and by the way, do not forget that ordinary people in Turkey also do not fanat what their government is doing. fellow
        1. DEfindER
          DEfindER 24 May 2013 13: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Wang
          Yes, and by the way, do not forget that ordinary people in Turkey also do not fanat what their government is doing.

          This is exactly how many mass protests there have already been, ordinary Turks do not want to spoil relations with their neighbors and even more so fight with them, for the interests of overseas hosts and Israel, I think the rating of the Turkish authorities is close to critical, they will get an Arab spring a little more ..
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 24 May 2013 00: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: vezunchik
      stop trade and tourism

      You can go to other countries, but there are much more expensive
      With holiday pay of 35000 r we can afford Turkey and Egypt
      Well, Abkhazia
      I don’t feel like going to the Caucasus either, although there is a lot of money
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 24 May 2013 01: 46 New
        0
        yeah, and despite the fact that Egypt is an open cesspool, Turkey is becoming even more attractive ...
      2. Aljavad
        Aljavad 24 May 2013 04: 21 New
        0
        go to crimea
    3. il grand casino
      il grand casino 24 May 2013 17: 54 New
      +1
      I want to assure eight that the Turkish economy does not rest on tourism ... and Russian tourists there are far from the predominant majority.
  • sscha
    sscha 23 May 2013 16: 04 New
    32
    It is clear that it is time for Russia and China to act more actively in the Middle East theater of operations, coordinating their actions.
    And then the "world gendarme" is absolutely oh ..... (You yourself know that ...) hi
    1. Interface
      Interface 23 May 2013 17: 24 New
      14
      Without China. Let him sit in Asia. And Central and Asia Minor is the historical point of the national interests of Russia, there is nothing for the Chinese to go there. We are in a position with Iran, Syria, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan to resist attempts to build "pi *** ro-democracy" there, forgive me for saying so shamelessly
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 23 May 2013 18: 54 New
        +7
        It's time for Russia to become a gendarme again and restore order in the world
        In the name of PEACE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
        1. skeptic-
          skeptic- 23 May 2013 19: 56 New
          13
          Quote: Genady1976
          It's time for Russia to become a gendarme again and restore order in the world


          Yes, first in Russia itself it is necessary to restore order, and not life "according to concepts," first restore yourself to the state of the state, from which you can take an example. In the meantime ... request
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 23 May 2013 20: 07 New
            +1
            Yes, so far it interferes
      2. sams
        sams 23 May 2013 19: 27 New
        +9
        Any policy is justified if it is for the good of Russia - nation and state.
        Therefore, in the foreign policy space one must be more cunning, brazen, faster than obvious opponents and modest "well-wishers", and think through their actions many steps forward. Otherwise, you will be surrounded.
        Another thing is that the current "elite" needs foreign policy insofar as (bargaining, defending some clan interests, drawing up at summits, etc., etc.). They are already well established.
      3. adg76
        adg76 24 May 2013 09: 17 New
        0
        In my opinion, our policy should be based on the weakening of both the states of China and the USA. To provoke internal conflicts, to finance the opposition from the closed sources with money (we have them) and weapons of the imported and Soviet pr-va. This is a necessary minimum. Learning this from England follows
  • pa_nik
    pa_nik 23 May 2013 16: 10 New
    24
    As Otto von Bismarck noted: “Politics is the art of the possible.” In my opinion, a fairly strong team of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs has formed in Russia at present. This assessment is my personal opinion, based on information that I can use, so to speak, getting it in the public domain repeat So, now, Russia is currently quite well represented on the world stage. And I would say the opinions of our country are considered, which is confirmed by the lightning-fast voyages to the Russian Federation by representatives of England and the United States last week. In addition, official relations are being established with ALL countries that give an appropriate response and have more or less free hands regarding NATO and other regional heavyweights. This is about politics. Most of the article is related to the hidden impact on certain groups within the country. Those. it is intelligence, espionage, sabotage, unofficial influence using its henchmen in various structures, both governmental and non-governmental. It seems that few visitors to this resource can judge this kind of work, having specific information and facts, because it (information) is elementarily closed, i.e. secret. In general, all the ideas presented in the article were pleasant and have a place to be and be considered for execution by services in the relevant areas. If you believe the leadership, the country "got up" - so "off the knees", which means that there is an opportunity not only to defend themselves, but also to take their own active actions. Let's hope this happens. hi
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 23 May 2013 17: 22 New
      14
      I agree with you, but I want to add more. Not only much depends on the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but also on the Armed Forces. Re-equipment started, no matter how fast it goes, is already a very significant factor. Campaigns of the combat groups of our fleet, more and more frequent and large-scale military maneuvers, new equipment arrives at the troops. All this says that Russia is strengthening its armed forces. And the language of weapons and power is the most understandable language for the West soldier
      1. Sleptsoff
        Sleptsoff 23 May 2013 18: 37 New
        0
        And here is rearmament or do you really think that the soldiers of Russia will give their lives for the Syrians? Putin would be an idiot if he gave such an order. First of all, it is necessary to fight by diplomatic methods, if it does not work out, then start supplying defensive weapons to the Syrians, let them defend themselves as they can. In addition, our rearmament program is designed until 2020 (and in Russia, as you know, where 2020 and 2030 are there), the Syrians are unlikely to be able to wait that long.
        1. sergaivenski
          sergaivenski 23 May 2013 20: 52 New
          +2
          It’s time for Russia to live its own mind, not being equal to the West, other foreign countries !!!
          Stop messing around !!!
        2. gladysheff2010
          gladysheff2010 24 May 2013 00: 35 New
          +1
          Yes, that’s not the point, buddy! The point here is that the presence of a strong and combat-ready army can cool many, not too hot heads, and not only in the West. not in our dirty laundry, but in our own garden garden, and even “human rights activists” hung up their ass.
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 24 May 2013 04: 29 New
            0
            and there’s also gunboat diplomacy. It was very viable. But gunboats (or aircraft carriers) must first be built. So GIVE RE-EQUIPMENT !!!!!
          2. Trapperxnumx
            Trapperxnumx 24 May 2013 16: 20 New
            0
            Thanks. You correctly understood my idea and answered for me.
  • avt
    avt 23 May 2013 16: 11 New
    14
    Ivashev’s example is contagious. A little hot news? Or for peace in the world do you want to send someone somewhere? As the PMC said about such: ,, hands itch, scratch in another place. "Go to the article from the series, I don’t know where and bring it, I don’t know what. request Russia’s position is balanced and adequate, the Foreign Ministry’s statements are not at odds with each other and quite a sufficient reaction to contemporary problems and challenges. And there is no need to climb into harlots, houses of affairs above the roof.
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 23 May 2013 16: 30 New
      25
      Quote: avt
      And there is no need to climb into harlots, houses of affairs above the roof.

      I do not agree. “Whores” is, as I understand it, the contacts and the work of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and special services in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf in an unofficial manner in order to achieve the goals that most satisfy Russia's interests. The slightly sloppy name for this paints a very ugly picture - conspiracies, poisoning tribes and relatives, vile murders and provocations. But what if you look at it from a different angle. This work, carried out by a fairly small number of employees, incomparably smaller than the limited contingent of troops, will help achieve the same goals - weakening enemies, protecting Russia's interests, and increasing its influence in the region and the world. Yes, let there be such a work !! And, I hope, it is underway. It is a pity that no one will tell about it ... specifics. Taking off my hat hi
      1. avt
        avt 23 May 2013 16: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: Akhtuba73
        This work, carried out by a fairly small number of employees, incomparably smaller than the limited contingent of troops, will help achieve the same goals - weakening enemies, protecting Russia's interests, and increasing its influence in the region and the world. Yes, let there be such a work !!

        Nobody has ever canceled special operations. I am sure that they are being conducted very intensively in the region and, judging by the situation in Syria, they are very successful and successful for Russia. But in the article, this is somewhat different. Well, why, say Lavrov, to organize hysterical actions in the style of a turn over the ocean? Or, in the spirit of Khrushchev, will Assad award the Hero of Russia medal? Well, to block the flow of tourists to Turkey .... request . What kind of special operation is this? I repeat, the extremely balanced and competent work of the Russian leadership on the events in Syria. And you don’t need to fool and demand something else, and aggravate the situation without having any levers to control the course of events, all the more. Better is the enemy of the good.
        1. Akhtuba73
          Akhtuba73 23 May 2013 17: 18 New
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Well, why, say Lavrov, to organize hysterical actions in the style of a turn over the ocean? Or, in the spirit of Khrushchev, will Assad award the Hero of Russia medal? Well, to block the flow of tourists to Turkey ....

          I agree completely. I meant precisely the "silent diplomatic war." Spheres of influence, clash of interests, playing on contradictions, etc. does not imply "assault" actions.
          I think that the time of worthless demarches has passed, the world is closely monitoring the action of the Russian Foreign Ministry and taking it seriously. Good luck to them.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 02 New
          +3
          Speaking of the events of ten months ago, information slipped that one of the monarchs of the bay was nearly killed by rebels. US cats rescued him, like him, along with special forces escaped in a US helicopter. So, opponents have plenty of problems, too, it's silly not to use them.

          By the way, the West will sooner or later have a question about the physical elimination of Assad. Will his guards cope? Will our special forces be nearby? Do not play ahead of the curve?
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 23 May 2013 19: 11 New
            0
            All countries have problems, I'm sitting scratching and in the news, black-and-white with knives even yelling
            about democracy in broad daylight soaked dude in uniform
        3. CAMS
          CAMS 24 May 2013 01: 12 New
          0
          how do you know why the aircraft really unfolded laurels, we see only what they give us to see. I am sure that there were good reasons for this act.
          1. Aljavad
            Aljavad 24 May 2013 04: 33 New
            +1
            WERE NOT PLANED A PLANE?
            THAT WAS PRIMAKOV
            1. Nick
              Nick 24 May 2013 18: 30 New
              0
              Quote: Aljavad
              WERE NOT PLANED A PLANE?
              THAT WAS PRIMAKOV

              That's right, E. M. Primakov. And in my opinion, he did the right thing. I give his explanations:
              In March 1999, I flew to the United States, where a meeting of two co-chairs was to take place (from the American side it represented Gore, and from our side I) the Russian-American Commission. Until the last moment, we did not know whether the talk about the impending missile-bomb strike was a demonstration of force, or whether the United States and its allies really headed for the bombing. In Shannon, our plane made an intermediate stop, phoned the ambassador of Russia to Ushakov. He said that "over 90 percent of the US will hit Yugoslavia." I immediately contacted Al Gore, who generally confirmed what was said earlier by our ambassador. I answered Horus that he was making a historic mistake; but since there was a note of uncertainty in his words, though weak, I will continue my flight to the United States, based on the extreme importance of our relationship. But he asked to take into account that the final decision will be made only after he calls me aboard the plane. Gore promised and did. When only three hours were left before landing at a military airfield near Washington, Gore confirmed by telephone the fact of the decision to bomb the Yugoslavia. Several governors, members of the Government, flew with me on the plane. I gathered everyone and announced my decision to deploy the plane.
    2. Nick
      Nick 23 May 2013 17: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: avt
      Russia’s position is balanced and adequate, the Foreign Ministry’s statements are not at odds with each other and quite a sufficient reaction to contemporary problems and challenges. And there is no need to climb into harlots, houses of affairs above the roof.

      Climb or not climb into the “harlot" should be decided after answering the question, "Russia will lose a lot if Syria falls?". But when we decide on the answer to this question, then we will decide ...
      1. skeptic-
        skeptic- 23 May 2013 20: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Nick

        Climb or not climb into the “harlot" should be decided after answering the question, "Russia will lose a lot if Syria falls?". But when we decide on the answer to this question, then we will decide ...


        When you decide, try not to forget to consider the question: "Russia will lose a lot if it directly gets into Syria, not limited to the supply of defensive weapons?"
        1. Nick
          Nick 24 May 2013 18: 21 New
          0
          Quote: skeptic
          When you decide, try not to forget to consider the question: "Russia will lose a lot if it directly gets into Syria, not limited to the supply of defensive weapons?"

          What did you mean?
        2. Hleb
          Hleb 25 May 2013 15: 45 New
          0
          "Russia will lose a lot if it directly gets into Syria, not limited to the supply of defensive weapons?"

          That's right. But some people won’t go by themselves. They send others through the monitor
  • z-exit
    z-exit 23 May 2013 16: 11 New
    -1
    But I sometimes think that China could deal with all these Shiite states. Here, its population will be just useful, and there are resources there and the enemy is much weaker than Russia. In addition, a confrontation with US interests also has benefits. At the same time, the chance of successful military expansion is quite high.
    1. not good
      not good 23 May 2013 18: 51 New
      +1
      It remains only to persuade China.
    2. skeptic-
      skeptic- 23 May 2013 20: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: z-exit
      But I sometimes think that China could deal with all these Shiite states. Here, its population will be just useful, and there are resources there and the enemy is much weaker than Russia. In addition, a confrontation with US interests also has benefits. At the same time, the chance of successful military expansion is quite high.


      The question is of course interesting, but does China need this? They are not going to be the seeders of the world revolution, and it is better to build a business being above the fray.
  • pa_nik
    pa_nik 23 May 2013 16: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: avt
    An article from the series go there, I don’t know where and bring it, I don’t know what.


    laughing
  • rus9875
    rus9875 23 May 2013 16: 14 New
    12
    First, try to influence your own citizens so that they refuse to travel to Turkey and see what happens. In words, we are all patriots, only when it comes to the wallet, for some reason, no one wants to incur losses for the idea
    1. pa_nik
      pa_nik 23 May 2013 16: 20 New
      +8
      It is unfortunate that on the Russian sea coast they cannot organize a similar Turkish / Egyptian vacation for their citizens for an acceptable combination of price / quality, I would not have to persuade anyone ... drinks
      1. rereture
        rereture 23 May 2013 18: 33 New
        +4
        They can, it’s cheaper to relax with us a hundred times, or in Ukraine in the Crimea, for example, the sea is one thing. Many people drive their cars. But why go where you don’t know the language? Buy counterfeit alcohol and cheap consumer goods? But I'm sorry we have enough alcohol and junk.
        1. Genady1976
          Genady1976 23 May 2013 19: 02 New
          +2
          To them the most important thing is oooh abroad fool
        2. evfrat
          evfrat 23 May 2013 23: 53 New
          +1
          the seas are different ...
      2. zvereok
        zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 09 New
        +5
        The price of a flight to Egypt on a last-minute package, all inclusive for five days 15-16 thousand. The price of only one flight to our resorts is economy - 11 thousand. Fly as they say with Aeroflot - Monopoliyas airplanes.

        11 thousand is one way.
        1. Genady1976
          Genady1976 23 May 2013 19: 16 New
          +2
          It’s necessary to rest at home. In nature
          the most
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 19 New
            +3
            Children can get sick. Many are shown the marine climate to enhance immunity.
            1. Aljavad
              Aljavad 24 May 2013 04: 39 New
              +1
              AND YOU BY TRAIN, SUSPENDING SO - VOLZHYAZH. HERE AND RELAX! AND SAVING ...
        2. Aljavad
          Aljavad 24 May 2013 04: 38 New
          +1
          AND YOU BY TRAIN, SUSPENDING SO - VOLZHYAZH. HERE AND RELAX! AND SAVING ...
      3. valokordin
        valokordin 23 May 2013 19: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: pa_nik
        It is unfortunate that on the Russian sea coast they cannot organize a similar Turkish / Egyptian vacation for their citizens for an acceptable combination of price / quality, I would not have to persuade anyone ... drinks

        Excessive greed and greed of ours pushes people into the arms of enemies. In the year 11 was in Catalonia, fine. Marmadiatraranya, excellent service, friendliness of the Spaniards and visiting Europeans for 2 weeks and for only two for 60 thousand rubles, including a flight from Tallinn to Girona.
      4. sasha.28blaga
        sasha.28blaga 24 May 2013 06: 43 New
        0
        And where then will Russian tourists thump, at home it’s a little ashamed.
  • Manager
    Manager 23 May 2013 16: 18 New
    11
    Russia, China, Syria, Iran, Belarus, Kakhakhkstan .......... 6 arguments against the lawlessness of the State Department. When will these arguments begin to pursue a tough policy?
    1. Roll
      Roll 23 May 2013 18: 06 New
      +2
      laughing The Chinese leader is not stupid about why he himself should go into the bonfire for chestnuts, let the other handy hands be burned while others are impatient. China is a rich buyer of oil, they don’t throw such people. But when everyone fights, and their fervor subsides, China, like the supposedly great power, will judge and reassure everyone.
  • tchack
    tchack 23 May 2013 16: 21 New
    15
    The direct intervention of Russia and Iran is now very necessary. If you choose where to fight: in Syria with little blood now or in Russia in bloody battles later, it is better to choose the first.

    If, after the victory of "shit-democracy" over Syria and Iran, NATO chooses Russia, China is unlikely to be our ally. We will be attacked from all sides ...
  • Igoriok222
    Igoriok222 23 May 2013 16: 25 New
    +6
    All countries fighting against Syria dig holes for themselves.
    1. evfrat
      evfrat 23 May 2013 18: 31 New
      +4
      but to bury then to whom?
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 23 May 2013 19: 05 New
        +1
        I can dig in and I have a shovel
        1. evfrat
          evfrat 23 May 2013 23: 55 New
          +1
          you call tady
        2. gladysheff2010
          gladysheff2010 24 May 2013 00: 45 New
          +1
          Well, be-dig, help.
  • Steering wheel
    Steering wheel 23 May 2013 16: 29 New
    +3
    Israel, arming the Sunni radicals, hoped so much that the Sunnis and Shiites would crush each other and Israel would seize a number of Arab lands under the flag of peacekeepers - but the Zionist fascists made a mistake, during the 2 years of the war these two groups armed with the most modern weapons, got the most powerful military experience the most important thing They will have to agree among themselves. And here the Jews as always outwitted themselves, now financed and armed groups will go to them FORWARD from Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Syria - history repeats itself - arming Adolf Hitler the Zionists of the USA and England wanted to incite his current to the USSR and their tribesmen in Europe suffered.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 14 New
      +3
      You know, maybe someone got experience, but yesterday I watched a video on the topic - the bandits, as they fought in slippers, are fighting.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 23 May 2013 16: 30 New
    +7
    One of the most important conditions for the stabilization of the situation in Syria is to gain time and close the borders to deprive Syrian militants of support from the outside.

    But this is the most important thing and there is a border. Assad is simply obliged, no matter what, to block all paths and really control the border.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 23 May 2013 17: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      Assad is simply obliged, no matter what, to block all paths and really control the border.

      Abroad, he must, is simply obliged to help. Sea "trails" to block. It’s unprofitable to go to the shores, and it’s quite possible to block secret supplies.
    2. Andrew-001
      Andrew-001 23 May 2013 19: 13 New
      +4
      201st stot division in tajikistan - let it cost 202 in syria soldier
      In fact, Assad could have transferred the same Golan to Russia’s ownership (all the same, the Jews would give them two from him) and a piece of the coast for the naval base of the Mediterranean naval squadron of the Russian Federation. Our mere presence would guarantee him from an external attack.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 18 New
        +1
        Now a law is being adopted on the formation of troops that can carry out special operations abroad.
      2. politruk419
        politruk419 24 May 2013 07: 16 New
        +1
        I’m afraid that the Jews of the Golan will not be deceived. Mustache fall, but will stand to the end. Bo Reservoir in the Golan nourishes H2O half of Jewish life. But H2O in Jewish is a deficit.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 23 May 2013 16: 36 New
    +8
    As for the military confrontation with Russia, a direct Turkish military attack on Syria can be prevented by a short march of a small connection of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet to the largest Turkish city, spread on the banks of the Bosphorus.

    What is it about? Which hike? Meaning? They wanted to give a damn about the "small connection of the ships of the Black Sea Fleet"! It would not be out of place to remind the author that Turkey is a member of NATO.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 23 May 2013 16: 55 New
      +2
      And she also has a fleet!
    2. rus9875
      rus9875 23 May 2013 18: 33 New
      17
      For information of great Internet strategists, the total simultaneous salvo of the Turkish fleet is 6 times that of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. Be realistic, after all, Putin, unlike most of you, really knows the strength and capabilities of Russia at this time and therefore does not make any sudden movements. competently, without hysteria and unnecessary rhetoric, the KGB is slowly but consistently achieving its goals - it’s a good school and it’s good that at the helm of the state there is a person who soberly evaluates desires and opportunities, and not some kind of “son of a lawyer” who would have sent all of you long ago ,, wash boots in the Indian Ocean "
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 23 May 2013 19: 21 New
        +1
        Native American))).
  • orff
    orff 23 May 2013 16: 41 New
    +5
    The true objectives of the Syrian war, like big fish, swim deeply and powerfully. And this article is like a splash of fry. From empty to empty!
    Putin’s analytical team works for 5+, and the statements of our Foreign Ministry do not diverge from business. The experience of hostilities in the Soviet Union in Syria is huge! Conclusions were made back in the late 90s. Article - MINUS
  • kobussubok
    kobussubok 23 May 2013 16: 47 New
    +7
    Oh, how almost everyone is right! I gave many positive ratings. Both you and I feel that the West is gradually leaving the leading first place! At least it will happen! But just why do we allow these "harmful old women" to turn around and slowly and painlessly walk down the stairs, holding the handrails with both hands ?! Why did nobody stand on ceremony with the former USSR and everyone who was not lazy wanted to put the bandwagon on us! It's time to be tougher !!! And, perhaps, even in a coalition with China (which I personally don’t really like), do everything possible so that the decrepit west crashes to the tailbone as painfully as possible and breaks all its bones eaten by osteoporosis !!!!!!
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 23 May 2013 16: 49 New
    +7
    As I already wrote on this topic and touched upon factors such as the closure of the Syrian border for outsiders. The other day, the Syrian army took control of the border with Lebanon almost completely. This ancient state with an interesting history is controlled by the central government only within the government quarter in Beirut. On the periphery, everyone who cares is ruled by a ball. And the government army is armed, but traditionally not meets in a showdown between conflicting clans within the country. However, in the last Israeli operation against the Combat wing of the Hamas movement in Lebanon, the army stayed close but aloof. By blocking the oxygen supply to bandits from the previously uncontrolled border with Lebanon, Syria certainly made points for the upcoming negotiations in Switzerland. with the participation of the Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union. With political support from Russia and the fulfillment by Russia of contracts concluded earlier for the supply of weapons and components, with the Syrian army taking control of its own border almost completely, Syria will withdraw. And then Turkey will turn to Syria with a proposal to live in peace as before. And it will force Turkey to do the Kurdish question (since there are a sufficient number of Kurdish refugees in Syria on the border with Turkey.)
  • escobar
    escobar 23 May 2013 16: 51 New
    +2
    http://nua.in.ua/novosti/mir/proisxodyashhee-v-sirii-vse-bolshe-ugrozhaet-zapadu
    /


    An interesting article on this topic.
    1. 89501358976
      89501358976 23 May 2013 17: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: escobar
      http://nua.in.ua/novosti/mir/proisxodyashhee-v-sirii-vse-bolshe-ugrozhaet-zapadu


      /


      An interesting article on this topic.
      PUTIN BY MY PLAY WESTERN IN ALL DIRECTIONS !!!! YES HELLO RUSSIA-MATUSHA, SACRED RUSSIA !!!! YES GOD HELP US
  • Parabellum
    Parabellum 23 May 2013 16: 56 New
    +3
    All the advice of the author looks good only on paper. But to realize them is very difficult. You must understand the complexity of the geopolitical balance in the Middle East before playing on the contradictions of the "Friends" of the Syrian people. Russia's current policy in the region is the most correct. As the saying goes, "East is a delicate matter."
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 23 May 2013 17: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Parabellum
      As the saying goes, "East is a delicate matter."

      East is a delicate matter,
      and the West is nothing at all.
      laughing
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 24 May 2013 07: 49 New
        0
        The east is a delicate matter, and the west is a wet affair.
  • bubla5
    bubla5 23 May 2013 16: 56 New
    0
    How to help some countries and then forgive debts, isn’t it easier for the state to pay part of the cost of trips to other countries, that is, to compensate for cheap Turkish tours, that will be safe economic pressure and regulation of the attitude
  • sandrmur76
    sandrmur76 23 May 2013 16: 59 New
    +2
    [quote = avt] An article from the series go there, I don’t know where and bring it, I don’t know what.
    In short (the author) wants to start a world mess with the wrong hands! BUT people live there too. Only a competent policy will unravel this knot. recourse
  • Malleus
    Malleus 23 May 2013 17: 02 New
    +5
    Quote: Parabellum
    All the advice of the author looks good only on paper. But to realize them is very difficult. "

    But some people from reading "put a lot of pants" ... He is mentioned more than once in the article. laughing
    And he understood the hint.
  • Samvel mirotvorec
    Samvel mirotvorec 23 May 2013 17: 06 New
    +4
    The Middle East, over a long historical time span, has been and is a region of de stability. Shiite-Sunite contradictions are to blame. If earlier under Nasser, there was at least something similar to the unity of the Arab world under the protection of a strong leader, then after the death of the President of Egypt, for the time the center of the Arab world moved to Iraq, and now there has been a complete split into Shiites in the person of Iran and Sunnis in the person of Turkey , Western countries have long been playing on these contradictions within the framework of their interests, do not forget that even before the Second World War almost the entire Middle East was divided into zones of influence under the protectorate of Western countries with the help of the League of Nation. I don’t know how Russia is capable, or rather, it’s ready to get involved in this cuisine, but it is necessary to develop strategic plans to defend our state interests in this region.
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 23 May 2013 17: 15 New
    +1
    Lavrov says, but Russia is doing the right thing. We do not intervene in Assad’s domestic policy, but we do not stop deliveries under previously concluded agreements in the field of defense systems of weapons for the Syrian army. You should not be like the British, stealthily pitting various parties and countries. Therefore, the Arab East treats us well.
  • Ulysses
    Ulysses 23 May 2013 17: 16 New
    +4
    Playing on the contradictions of different world players, this is not a pound of raisins for you. For this, you need many factors from “agents of influence” in different countries to training your own diplomatic corps. (And preferably others)
    And these things are getting better, honed over the years.
    We just recently had a foreign minister who said with a smileWhy does Russia need its own foreign policy if the Americans make it better. " belay

    Times, of course, change, but to break, not to build. It is necessary to patiently regain their influence in all corners of the globe. Imho.
  • krez-74
    krez-74 23 May 2013 17: 22 New
    +5
    Any country that wants to see itself as strong and independent is obliged to work in anticipation! We need to learn this skill. For some reason, Russia always tries to shame, to find drops of decency and conscience ... But in the world they have long been living according to wolf laws!
    Touching this region, many countries there can be pitted very easily, thereby removing a lot of negativity, destabilizing attention, and at the same time, you can make good money all over the country! And at the same time, put the Americans, a large stick in their cart.
  • Black
    Black 23 May 2013 17: 36 New
    +2
    Perhaps a decrease in Russian tourism and a weakening degree and degree of confidence in Russian-Turkish relations will help Turkish leaders to think about their wrong geopolitical choice

    I'm belittling you !!! What - to ban holidays in Turkey? So in% terms, our tourists do not do the weather there. And for the "degree" the Turks do not care about the minaret. And what does it mean, “wrong geopolitics choice”, and what, we had to choose? Yes, we have so far only tore our knees off the floor!
    There is no other way, no other medicine, and nothing will lead the neighboring countries to the "right" choice, like our stronger Army and Navy.
  • Vladomir
    Vladomir 23 May 2013 17: 39 New
    +6
    The United States and NATO realized that you can’t take Russia from the west. All their attempts failed. Moreover, Sy and Co. "do not like to fight with their own hands, they only rake in. Therefore, a long-term program to create an" arc of instability "along the entire perimeter of Russia's southern borders, (and with access to China), and feeding reactionary Islamist regimes with their access to the Russian Caucasus and Central Asia.Let's see what nasty things the US and NATO will leave after leaving Afghanistan in 2014. Therefore, Russia in joint actions with China, Iran, Yemen ... has the right to provide for ANY measures on defending and upholding Russia's position. Assad’s victory in Syria will inflict a severe blow on Western policy in this region, and will not allow their war against Iran ... Not for that, the West has demonstratively destroyed Sadam and Gaddafi as a warning to others. Therefore, ALL ran to Putin in an attempt to bring down the defense of the interests of Russia, to prevent the collapse of its policy, Russia must stand up and defend its interests!
  • Belogor
    Belogor 23 May 2013 17: 44 New
    +1
    Secret diplomacy and all kinds of backstage have always been present in the politics of most states. Playing on contradictions and knowing the enemy’s weaknesses always brought dividends in politics. Some states have vast experience in this. Unfortunately, Russia repeatedly felt this on herself when the fruits of her victories were used by others.
  • individual
    individual 23 May 2013 17: 44 New
    +1
    That's all that the observer Alexander Popov described in the intricacies of the interstate regional hub of northern Africa and Turkey’s neighbors should be aware Advisers to the Russian Foreign Ministry.
    And the flag is in their hands to control the situation of neutralizing especially "greyhound" Turks, Saudis and Qatari for the benefit of peace in Syria. Fortified Syria can provide a military resource to the borders of its sovereignty and will calm unbelted the Israelis.
  • serpentine fist
    serpentine fist 23 May 2013 17: 50 New
    +3
    I propose that RUSSIA begin negotiations with Iran on the creation of a naval base because the Persian Gulf is considered to be the sphere of interests of the United States. then the Navy will be like a tweet in the soft spot of the USA and the Arab monarchy. But TURKEY and ISRAEL can be shut up by breaking the channel from the Caspian to the Persian Gulf. The Caspian countries have long dreamed of this channel.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 May 2013 17: 54 New
    0
    Turkey can be pressed and the Saudis the same. Israel is the main puppeteer of this whole massacre in the Middle East .. It’s more complicated here everywhere they have a lobby .. and in Russia too. S-300 shipments, high-profile statements .. The Navy in the Mediterranean Sea .. this is the tip of the iceberg .. Note Israel very rarely makes any high-profile statements or actions ... everything is quiet always happening .. even if it is bombed .. (somehow everything quickly they suddenly forget about it) There are a lot of Jews from Russia .. (and quite influential), if you put a little pressure on them or buy them .. (many ways .. is) I think the Syrian problem would be solved quickly .. and there wouldn’t be so much blood ..but alas .. while all this is beneficial to a certain circle ..
  • Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 23 May 2013 18: 13 New
    +6
    The leadership of the USSR was very good at finding allies and weakening its enemies. Not without the help of the USSR, the colonialists were thrown out of Asia and Africa. Political support at the UN meant a lot, in those days, and weapons and military advisers were not superfluous.
    The effectiveness of Soviet international politics would be an order of magnitude higher if it were not for the crazy tricks of the bald maize who had outraged Stalin, and therefore the USSR.
    The current rulers are even worse than a bald scoundrel, they go on a direct betrayal of the interests of Russia. Surrendered to Russia's worst enemy Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan. There was nothing to be done there, only to show a fist and help by means of air defense.
    Any unpunished aggression and the victory of NATO and USA are a blow to Russia's security.
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 23 May 2013 18: 37 New
    +1
    is that divide and conquer? so the backdoors jumped us in this. they have the whole story based on this rule
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 23 May 2013 20: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      so zadopoduzy in this we jumped

      Learn from the “partners” properly.
      The knowledge gained is put into practice.
  • Diviz
    Diviz 23 May 2013 18: 51 New
    0
    The war will be batch - they armed fanatics or even people who have nowhere to go and sent them to the war, and there they shout that the opposition is fighting for freedom. all this for a long time, Syria and Iran fight them shoulder to shoulder no one knows how much ...
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 May 2013 19: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: Malleus
    Quote: Parabellum
    All the advice of the author looks good only on paper. But to realize them is very difficult. "

    But some people from reading "put a lot of pants" ... He is mentioned more than once in the article. laughing
    And he understood the hint.

    Such sites are constantly crawled .. I think he has already been reported .. smile After all, if Syria and Russia, etc. will stand in this artificially created confrontation..first of all, the Saud need to make a claim and if everything is done correctly this gang of them will feed them and run .. and there is something to rob and destroy ... the UN will be silent .. "like the return of the prodigal sons ..))
  • Gecko
    Gecko 23 May 2013 19: 18 New
    +2
    The British MI-6 was preparing a number of sabotage on the territory of the USSR, including terrorist attacks, killings and abductions of high-ranking figures. This is evidenced by documents declassified by the intelligence service.
    The plan, developed in 1947 by the head of the military intelligence service, Stuart Menzies, provided for the undermining of military echelons, sending parcels with explosives to Moscow. In addition, MI-6 was about to eliminate prominent members of the Communist Party or kidnap them, arranging it as if the functionaries had fled abroad.
    Among other measures that the plan proposed were the distribution of counterfeit money and grocery cards, arson, putting up anti-communist leaflets and posters on the streets, as well as blackmail, defamation and intimidation of the communists.
    At the same time, MI6 asked the British authorities to give it complete freedom of action to conduct operations not only in the Soviet Union, but also in the Soviet occupation zone in Germany and Austria.
    However, in London this plan was immediately rejected. In particular, the then Foreign Minister Ernst Bevin was categorically against. “We are releasing forces that will be difficult to control. I think this is not the most successful method of warfare,” he wrote to Menzies.
    As a result, the British refused to carry out operations of this kind in the USSR, but later, however, the government softened its position: from the mid-1950s. it began to issue special services "licenses to kill" one or another person.
    London’s unwillingness to complicate relations with the Soviet bloc and the fear of a new war were so strong that the British began to persuade the United States not to take drastic steps, believing that Washington was developing a plan of rebellion against the Soviet leadership. The Times wrote that the British diplomat George Kennan, known in the future as one of the initiators of rapprochement between the USA and the USSR, told the British about the existence of such plans.
    As a result, as indicated in declassified documents, under pressure from London, Washington refused to finance immigrant groups ready to rebel. Instead, the British and Americans agreed to jointly sabotage production in Eastern Europe.
  • smart ass
    smart ass 23 May 2013 19: 21 New
    +5
    And I have long been calling on this site not to go to Turkey!
    1. kind
      kind 23 May 2013 19: 53 New
      +1
      Well, if only on tanks and fighters !!!
    2. Genady1976
      Genady1976 23 May 2013 19: 54 New
      +4
      I recently also urge. DO NOT RIDE TO TURKEY.
    3. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 23 May 2013 19: 59 New
      +5
      And I have long been calling on this site not to go to Turkey!

      That's right, stop feeding hostile parasites.
      It was a good song: I don’t need a Turkish coast; foreign land is not needed.
      It is a pity in the 10th century Svyatoslav Igorevich the Brave could not finish off Byzantium, but he stood at the gates of Constantinople and all of Bulgaria was conquered. The first Russian Christians betrayed the prince.
  • kind
    kind 23 May 2013 19: 40 New
    +2
    Let's draw parallels. Kurds are like Chechens. Saddam Hussein tried to put them in their place, everyone knows what this led to, and then Turkey supported the Kurds, but received no thanks. The thing is that jackals accept a situation that is beneficial to them. They have no gratitude. If yesterday's patron is weaker than today, he can be betrayed.
    1. evfrat
      evfrat 24 May 2013 00: 10 New
      0
      only you forgot to add that their 40 millions and the territories of 4's states are partially collected from their lands.
    2. urganov
      urganov 24 May 2013 07: 23 New
      +1
      Commentary is a huge minus for the parallel. Kurds and Chechens, as they say in Odessa, are two big differences. In general, there are no situational analogies. Some have a population of about 40 million, the lack of statehood at present and the fragmentation of the population across the territories of other, often warring, states. Others have the opposite.
  • Grey74
    Grey74 23 May 2013 19: 47 New
    +3
    The author is right, it’s time to learn how to fight not with soldiers, but with money !! like Ingriza and Americans
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 23 May 2013 20: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Grey74
      The author is right, it’s time to learn to fight not with soldiers, but with money !!

      And what would the money be hostile ...
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 23 May 2013 19: 53 New
    +1
    Quote: Good
    Let's draw parallels. Kurds are like Chechens. Saddam Hussein tried to put them in their place, everyone knows what this led to, and then Turkey supported the Kurds, but received no thanks. The thing is that jackals accept a situation that is beneficial to them. They have no gratitude. If yesterday's patron is weaker than today, he can be betrayed.

    Kurds forgot something quickly in Turkey and in the world .. and Ireland and Mexico, and so on. if you raise these coals .. slowly naturally ...
  • Naval
    Naval 23 May 2013 19: 56 New
    +2
    It is time for our politicians to master the intricacies of intrigue and color revolutions. As they say, to beat the enemy with their own weapons. Throw a spark, add oil, fan the fire, and there you look and it will not be up to the neighbors, they will begin to restore order. Good article, definitely!
  • stranik72
    stranik72 23 May 2013 19: 57 New
    0
    As for "not defending, but counterattacking", the populism of pure water, I’m never delighted with the actions of our authorities in the international arena, but what is being done in Syria is the most reasonable balance between the country's capabilities and desires. We ourselves have so many problems inside the Caucasus that at the time it’s time to use front-line aviation for targeted attacks. So for more aggressive actions, we ourselves need to work a lot and for a long time, so that serious allies appear and the Commander-in-Chief could declare, as once in the beginning of the 70s of the USSR, "if you don’t stop, we will start hostilities against you .. . "
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 23 May 2013 20: 07 New
      +2
      Populism is everywhere to retreat, grovel and repent.
      There is one problem in the Caucasus, USAA is financing terrorists, and the Kremlin does not want to give the Yankees hands, the stsuki themselves are messed up.
      In Central Asia, the Basmachi atrocities from 1923 to 1943, while the United Kingdom financed them.
      The sterlings ceased to go and all the "implacable" kurbashi and Serdars were blown away at once.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 23 May 2013 19: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Grey74
    The author is right, it’s time to learn how to fight not with soldiers, but with money !! like Ingriza and Americans

    Probably right, but this is not accepted among us, who suppose to lay down lives for their own. This will have to learn. There is no need for diplomatic disagreements, but it is necessary to determine and directly declare who is our friend, who is the enemy, who is the fellow traveler, and who is the eternal ally, like the Jews in Israel.
  • Rodriques
    Rodriques 23 May 2013 20: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: Genady1976
    I have already written many times that it’s time for our tourism to stop traveling to Turkey and feed
    entih turks

    Well, what, you create a group in contact, wherever possible, tell “the delights of a holiday in Turkey”, PR, show on TV, all things, like, now things are being done)) I am also against rest in an enemy state, only the experience of the masses I don’t have media_)
  • deman73
    deman73 23 May 2013 21: 07 New
    0
    East is a delicate matter
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 23 May 2013 21: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: deman73
      East is a delicate matter

      It reminds me of a joke, what is diplomacy? Diplomacy is a delicate matter, so you know what the hell a mosquito has, so diplomacy is 10 times thinner.
  • Alexandr0id
    Alexandr0id 23 May 2013 21: 16 New
    +4
    After World War I, there were no conflicts with Turkey. Now she is among the main economic partners of Russia. Tourists do not go there for reasons of patriotism or its absence - this is nonsense, just Turkey is definitely the best option in terms of price-quality ratio (I regularly go to rest abroad regularly, I visited a lot where, Turkey is very good), and people consider their money.
    Of course, it is possible to crush them economically, only the trade balance is now in our favor, so we will get a negative effect to a greater extent. sending the Black Sea Fleet to Istanbul is certainly fun, but it smacks of idiocy and clowning, and so it will be regarded. especially since the Black Sea fleet is weaker than the Turkish one.
    military assistance to Yemen is something from the Soviet past, apparently history does not teach anything to some, hence such ideas.
    why should China help Sudan and which one - southern or northern - I did not understand at all.
    for some reason, Bahrain is named among the opponents of al-Assad, the author most likely confused him with Qatar, which actually speaks of his awareness of Middle Eastern affairs.
    Summary: The article is delusional, I would be ashamed to post this to everyone.
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 23 May 2013 21: 49 New
      -3
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      After World War I, there were no conflicts with Turkey. Now she is among the main economic partners of Russia. Tourists do not go there for reasons of patriotism or its absence - this is nonsense, just Turkey is definitely the best option in terms of price-quality ratio (I regularly go to rest abroad regularly, I visited a lot where, Turkey is very good), and people consider their money.
      Of course, it is possible to crush them economically, only the trade balance is now in our favor, so we will get a negative effect to a greater extent. sending the Black Sea Fleet to Istanbul is certainly fun, but it smacks of idiocy and clowning, and so it will be regarded. especially since the Black Sea fleet is weaker than the Turkish one.
      military assistance to Yemen is something from the Soviet past, apparently history does not teach anything to some, hence such ideas.
      why should China help Sudan and which one - southern or northern - I did not understand at all.
      for some reason, Bahrain is named among the opponents of al-Assad, the author most likely confused him with Qatar, which actually speaks of his awareness of Middle Eastern affairs.
      Summary: The article is delusional, I would be ashamed to post this to everyone.

      I propose to provide "assistance" Turkey MANPADS. SAM NW, build them an aircraft carrier and send Russian women to their harem for free. To prepare eunuchs from apartmentless officers, guards from the Tambov organized crime groups and offer Erdogan to accept Orthodoxy. Well, how do the defenders of poor Turkish women agree?
      1. Alexandr0id
        Alexandr0id 24 May 2013 01: 38 New
        +4
        but essentially nothing to say?
      2. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 24 May 2013 11: 15 New
        +3
        and what are you not happy with? Valocordin? We really didn’t have any conflicts with the Turks. We are also trying to sell them weapons all the time. And about the Russian women, so forgive the choice for them, or do you think that the Turks did (Natasha)? No, just someone with the chain breaks down on vacation. By the way, therefore, I don’t go to the tourist area, I don’t want to see our tourists. Once is enough
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 23 May 2013 22: 54 New
      +2
      in principle, I agree with many comments, except for the question of Bahrain!
      Bahrain as well as the Saudis and Qatar are in the forefront of the struggle against the Syrian government!
      And the larger Bahrain is no longer an independent state !!
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 23 May 2013 23: 09 New
        +1
        Dear Alibek, please watch this video and give it an estimate. What do you think [media = http: //partizzan1941.ucoz.ru/load/novosti_i_politika/aravijskij_uz
        el / 14-1-0-14499]
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 23 May 2013 23: 43 New
          +1
          Hello dear Denis!
          I looked, I often do not agree with the comments and statements of El-Murid, but here is another case!
          In principle, according to the history of Saudi Arabia, everything is correct with the exception of the conversation that only two Hashemites remained, he apparently meant royal dynasties, and so the Hashemites are very influential in the Arab world as a clan and have numerous offspring! Regarding the heirs to the throne in Saudi Arabia, El’s assumptions Murida, that a serious fight is possible there are not true !! The fact is that all the more or less significant part of the dynasty's elite is tied to the USA and in general all power in the country is connected with the USA and while America is strong, what and how they want in the United States will be in saudi arabia !!
          And the Americans will choose the heir and no one will pick up in Saudi !! If you remember when Saudi Arabia was formed, its king on the US aircraft carrier signed an oath of allegiance to friendship with the United States! But on the day when the United States is hesitating in the world, those processes that El Murid and not a day earlier !!
          about the Shiites in Saudi Arabia, in principle, like the Sunnis, they hate the Wahhabis, but they are not able to play any role at this stage! Pay attention to who Saudi Arabia borders, there is not a single country that could have any influence on these forces and could seriously support them! It’s not for nothing that the British drew such a map!
          And the fact that borders in the Arab world will change in the coming years, and I am much more confident in this, like El Murid, will change thoroughly!
          As for the army of Saudis and special services, there are a lot of mercenaries from different countries! This is inherent in all countries of the Gulf monarchies !! I saw officers from Iran, Pakistan, Yemen there !! They pay a lot of money to the military and police!
          As for Syria, the trouble of Syria is that they have no borders with Iran, then they would be invincible !! But it is Iran’s help that plays a key role now and I will repeat it as before here the issue of Shiites and Sunnis does not matter! I definitely know that it’s very many Sunnis are fighting for Assad !! Iran does not help because the Shiites have a problem there, Iran helps based on its geopolitical interests !!
          Iran has a large nationalist policy in which it will use religious issues at the right time !!
          In the coming years, Iran will not be able to cause any serious trouble to the Gulf countries, since the United States is behind them, but for the United States, Iran is a good moment to constantly hold the monarchs there for the eggs !!
          This is a long conversation, you can write a lot !!
          Assad will not be allowed to defeat, but so far Iran can help and supports Russia and Assad will not be able to remove, that is, the power of him and his loved ones !!
          Apparently there they achieved the Lebanese conflict and will run in new models !!
          There they hope for a long meat grinder !!
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 24 May 2013 00: 09 New
            +1
            Thank you, dear Alibek for such a detailed answer. I don’t even know what to say ... I have to rethink all this. In any sense, thank you! Visit this site (there are many interesting things) more often. There and Musin (anna-news.info ) happens. I have thoughts on this subject (Syria), but this is not in the public domain
  • maksim
    maksim 23 May 2013 22: 16 New
    0
    reduce the departure of tourists to Turkey by one season and they will begin to think differently
  • AREOPAG23
    AREOPAG23 23 May 2013 22: 50 New
    +2
    it is necessary to take advantage of the experience of the Soviet Union and step up communication with those who hate the Turkish and Arabian authorities, provide them with all possible assistance, try to block the channel for delivering recruited militants to Syria.
  • Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 23 May 2013 22: 58 New
    +1
    we, Russia, Iran, China need to attack on ALL fronts .... literally and figuratively enough ..... enough ..... the time has come to stagnate to seize the initiative .... the best defense is an offensive - this was proved many times by ours domestic military science
  • pinecone
    pinecone 23 May 2013 23: 40 New
    0
    But besides the Kurds, several other national minorities live in Turkey, and some of them live on the border with Syria. Their leaders are negotiating with Assad and Erdogan.

    It would be nice to call these national minorities, especially those living on the border with Syria. Not counting the Kurds and Arabs, of course.