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Aliens against predators

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"Special raid special forces." So a veteran of the British SAS called the Taliban raid 14 September 2012 on the British base in Afghanistan.


Aliens against predators

The first grenade exploded behind him when that evening he was driving along the runway at Camp Bastion to work. Dodging the gigantic fiery fire, the junior corporal of the US Marine Corps, Ethan Burke, casually sent his tractor directly to the ambush of the militants, and a lead hail immediately struck him.

“I saw flashes of shots around the corner of the warehouse and suddenly realized that all the bullets were flying into me. I felt a strong blow in my hand, but I thought that I just knocked about something. Jumped out of the tractor, ducked. When I reached for the rifle, they again started firing at me. At that moment, it became clear that they had a lot of trunks, too often, it was unlike a single Kalash.

Running along the concrete wall, Burke tried to pinpoint the positions of the Taliban in order to take the most advantageous position to fight. After a few moments, he found not only a good place. Moving over the same wall, a friend almost fell over his head - the younger corporal Kevin Sommers. Two fighters prepared for battle and began to wait for the enemy to bypass the wall and try to attack them. This did not happen.


“As soon as we realized that they were not going to chase us, we again jumped over the wall and evaluated the situation in front of it. At this point, the British appeared (51-I light armored squadron of ground defense of the Air Force. She defended the airfield of Bastion from the attack of the ground forces of the enemy) and helicopters that began to extinguish the militants with machine guns directly above our heads. We decided to stop the soldiers to describe the situation to them. They began to give them signals with lanterns and shout: “Marines! Marines! " The main guy in the RRF, after listening to our report and seeing the blood on my camouflage, ordered an urgent show of the wound to the doctors. After the X-ray, it turned out that two pieces of a bullet stuck in my hand, which the surgeons had to pick out, were stuck in my hand. After all this confusion, I was asked if I wanted to go home after being injured. I replied that I had just arrived, and why would I want to? ”

FOREIGNERS

September 14 evening 2012 of the year. Base Camp Bastion, Helmand Province, Afghanistan. A group of 15 militants gathered at a designated location near the south-eastern section of the base’s perimeter, closest to the American Harrier AV-8 B attack aircraft. Pulling out of the caches weapon (AK-47, RPK and RPG) and means for blasting equipment, the militants dressed in American field uniforms and advanced along a dry stream bed to a predetermined area of ​​the perimeter. In 10: 15, they made a pass in the wire fence and entered the base.

Running another 150 meters, they walked around the barrier wall in front of the runway. Directly in front of them, along a brightly lit runway, stood 10 tarpaulin hangars with “harriers”. The militants were divided into three subgroups of five people. One went along the outer side of the runway toward the hangars, the second toward the filling stations, and the third toward the helicopters.


Reaching the hangars, the militants from the top five secured on several IED aircraft, and several others were shot from an RPG. Six “harriers” along with the hangars were destroyed, two more were seriously damaged. The second subgroup ignited three gas stations. The third, fortunately, did not reach the helicopters. However, in half an hour they had inflicted material damage on 200 million dollars.

According to objective data (the Taliban, for sure, also knew about it), the hangars should have no more than a dozen people. But everything turned out to be much worse. At the noise and crash, escaped from nowhere, where did the arrows come from and did not let the saboteurs go farther than the attack aircraft. Those moved to passive defense and the search for ways of withdrawal. This decision determined their fate. First, a subgroup was destroyed by the fire of the guns of the combat helicopters of the marines when they attempted to leave the open area, several hours later the ground forces shot the second one. After some time, the third five was discovered near the runway. Four militants were destroyed by fire from a British helicopter. After five hours of combat, the 14 militants killed, one wounded and taken prisoner.

PREDATORS

When, after 12 minutes, full-time quick reaction forces arrived at the scene, more than 100 officers and soldiers fought at the runway aviation Marine Corps from Yuma and Miramar Airbases and Pendleton Base. They were the “shooters” who stopped the Taliban.
... Actually, at first they thought that the mortar attack had begun. The officers on duty woke the day shift, took the people from the rest rooms and the gym. Organized by moving into concrete shelters, the aviators heard the “voices” of AK-47 and the PKK and realized that the enemy was at the gate.


Having abandoned their wrenches, they took up the rifles of aeromechanics and equipment of ground services. Pilots and navigators from the ground suggested colleagues who had risen into the air on targets and shot down ramp machine guns from Osprey convertiplanes in order to support the same militants with a “fire”. One of the subgroups of saboteurs smoked from the shelter and “grapes” were shot at all - the same way the refueling teams of the Marines aviation are called by the color of overalls. What to list - all fought.

Deprived of their “hounds” (Harrier), the 211 squadron also fought on the ground.

Wing Infantry Commander

“The difference between me and some other people is that at the sound of the shots they run away. When I hear shots, I run on them. ” So half in jest, the squadron commander often used to say to his subordinates.

... The first explosions in the parking of their airplanes were the “avengers” comedians (Avengers (eng.) Nicknamed the 211 squadron) from Yuma lieutenant colonel Christopher Otis. .

The Taliban were already operating in the hangars when Raibl raised the marines in the barracks. Then he put on a bulletproof vest and, together with the pilot Major Greer Chambbles and electrical engineer Sergeant Bradley Etwell of the 13 squadron of aerial supply, pulled the jeep off the runway. Having dismounted, they ran about a hundred meters under enemy fire to a group of marines stationed at the first hangar. Reible asked who would go further with him. Volunteers turned out to be more than necessary. He took eight and went "on fire" again. After a few moments, an RPG charge exploded over his head. Reibl died. At the time of the attack of another group, Etwell was killed. But the rest of the Marines managed to push the top five militants into the remote zone of the airfield, where they were destroyed by fire from helicopters.


In the 469-th shock squadron of light helicopters of the marines, at a signal "fire contact" ("troops in contact") "flying" marines ran out on the runway and began to prepare helicopters for combat sortie. "We usually respond to the challenges of other units in various war zones far from Bastion," recalled the comask and Cobra pilot Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Lightfoot, "this time the call came from our own squadron." The enemy targeted grenades at his Huey and Cobras, and the helicopters instantly flew into the air. There they were much more useful than the power of their fire, night vision devices and infrared sensors. "Out of the game, we became hunters."

In critical situations, US Marine Corps always prefer not to retreat, but to counterattack. It so happened. But here this feature was shown by clean rear men. The same corporal Burke is a specialist in working with hazardous materials, Sommers is a cooling systems technician. And others acted the same way. For example, a sergeant in charge of takeoff and landing noticed the Taliban marching to the cargo storage area and, under enemy fire, assumed command of a handful of similar techies. Those cheerfully broke into battle groups, and drove the militants away from valuable loot. According to him, "the marines sought to cover each other and not allow the Taliban to take our positions."

“The air wing is engaged in servicing aircraft and helicopters and supporting ground forces. But when the situation forces us, we can quickly move on to an attack on the ground. That is exactly what happened that evening. ” So later the commander of the USNS 3 th wing of the US Marine Corps in Afghanistan, Major General Gregg Stardivant, evaluated the actions of his subordinates.

Their exposure and training makes an impression. In preparing for the operation, the Taliban obviously knew very well that only technical personnel were in the American technology parks. But he was not counted on such a warm reception from him. Maybe the base command counted?


Is not a fact. Start with the fact that the settlement of American "mechanics-terminators" at the WFP in general could not be. At one time, pilots and aircraft wing technology, along with the rest of the marines, moved to Camp Lazernek. But the road to the airfield took them about an hour, and in 2011, a strong-willed decision was made to build a separate living area for them at the runway. As the events of September 14 showed, the flight and technical staff was provided not only with comfort, but also with shooting adventures.

British contribution

It may seem that the regular security forces of the aerodrome were in secondary roles. This is not true. The marines only localized the threat, and the base guard - the very 51 squadron of the Royal Air Force did its job. The first group on two armored "coyotes" on arrival at the runway rushed into battle. The group commander, Sergeant Roy Geddis, was wounded, but he continued to lead his unit until the end. Soon, other groups of the British rapid reaction forces were brought up and, together with the marines from the second battalion of the 10 regiment of the US Marine Corps, cleared the zone of combat operations until the morning.

But reports of their actions are stingy, which indirectly confirms that those responsible for the security of the Bastion perimeter understand that they have miscalculated somewhere. But before proceeding to the objective and subjective reasons for this state of emergency, several guesses as to why Senator McCain called the raid on the Bastion, "perhaps the most ... little-known this year."

Forbidden topics

At first it was stated that a half dozen kamikazes did everything to "inflict maximum damage on a small group and demonstrate to the international community, residents of Helmand and Kandahar, that they are a force to be reckoned with." The commander of the South-West group, Major General of the United States Marine Corps, Mark Gerganis, confirms: "They came here ready to die." On the faces of the dead militants, the experts found traces of paint and suggested that they inhaled enamel from the cans, “in order to dull the senses and find determination in their suicidal mission.”

But no one says that the saboteurs were going to be killed only for American attack aircraft. Moreover, according to General Stardivant, “if they (the marines) didn’t do what they did, things could have been much worse.” So they had other plans? Do not speak. Even to McCain.

Here is General Gerganis reports on the preparation of the attack on the Bastion: “The planning took months. It was not a company of local eccentrics, who gathered in a heap and decided: "Come on, let's attack the Bastion." Clear. It is not clear how miraculously the "aliens" were at the perimeter fence of the base. Guess yourself - the guide on this issue does not scold either people or equipment. Everything else is about the same.


Experts unanimously call the raid on the Bastion "unusual." One professor of military affairs even stated: "If this is a skillful surprise, he cannot work twice." But this surprise worked! There was already such a raid. And not just like, but exactly like that. Judge for yourself.

22 May 2011, a group of Pakistani Taliban "unpacked" the Pakistani Navy base Mehran in Karachi. Months of preparation preceded the raid. Next - a few weeks of observing the object. And at the Bastion, the Afghan National Security Authority reported: “Once the breakout point was determined, the Taliban tracked all movements at the base for at least two more weeks.”

Next to the base of Mehran, a cache of weapons was also laid in advance — the same reliable AKs, PKK, RPGs and explosive weapons. The saboteurs found a blind zone in the control system, and the passage was made on a dark evening, making holes in the "thorn" in the perimeter. And in the bastion? A word to General Gerganis: “There were no suicide bombers or tunnel-digs there. Nippers for a steel wire and all. The fence was not equipped with an alarm. They very well used the terrain, and went to the site, completely unseen from most of the watchtowers, where they got the opportunity to break through. And they did it on a completely impenetrable night. ” One to one.

It is not at all strange to know that the attackers on Mehran were also 15 people. After the passage of the perimeter, they were equally divided into three fives and similarly attacked objects from three sides. The first target is the naval reconnaissance aircraft P3-C Orion. One was shot from grenade launchers, the second was destroyed in the hangar with subversive charges. Moving along the Mehran base, the saboteurs damaged the power supply system and plunged the base into darkness. In the Bastion, the Taliban "were hurricane fire on the watchtowers" and other technical facilities, too, probably hoping to hide in the dark. Even the episodes, when the fire brigades went to the set on fire before the protection of airfields and came under fire from saboteurs, are completely identical.
Why, then, speaking of Bastion, did they not remember a word about Mehran? You can try to guess.

Firstly, in this case, one would probably have to explain why they did not take into account the sad experience of their neighbors. Secondly, the general public, having read to the end history Mehrana, could have imagined on her own what would have happened if the advance of the Taliban in the Bastion had not been stopped by the cruel American marines.

The militants, according to the Mehran scenario, have crumbled expensive planes, seize several buildings from the runway and take hostages. Only such a plan explains the fact that far from all the participants in the raid on the Bastion were found by the death belt, and in the video about the training of militants, the faces of some of them were “smeared”. If the saboteurs were able to take hostages in Bastion, they would clearly not need suicide belts. It is curious that the leadership of the Taliban through the yellow press still sounded this part of the plan, but in a very peculiar way - they announced that Prince Harry was one of the targets of the raid. That evening he, the pilot of a combat helicopter, was really not very far away. But the reader understands that the prince cannot be caught by the dushman, and he perceives this story with his usual ease. Would it have been easy for the generals to respond to inquiries about the reality of the seizure of dozens of hostages and the death toll in the event of a militant breakthrough into the residential area? They do not go into details.

In Mekhran, two saboteurs managed to escape. In Bastion, one of the five, as we know, was destroyed while trying to retreat. Why do suicide bombers go? But there is a reason for the group that is clearly carrying out backup plans. See - defeated the base and returned alive. One can dream of such a blow in the information war. And you can try to apply.


British rapid reaction forces arrived in 12 minutes. What during this time can mess things up? In Mehran, the security forces arrived just as quickly, and the militants were already “home”. True, the cleaning operation there began at five in the morning. But there was nowhere to hurry - for some reason, the saboteurs were not engaged in hostages, and Pakistani special forces were taking people out of their nose. In Bastion, everything could be much worse - the organizers of the raid, for sure, were not going to repeat last year's mistakes.

In general, the soldiers rescued their generals. But not everything depends on them.

"Moles"

There is one objective reason to keep silent about the raid on the Bastion - Taliban "moles" in the Afghan security forces. Someone the next morning at close range filmed smoke over the Bastion for a Taliban TV channel. Someone laid a cache of weapons, brought the Taliban to the "dead zone" in the perimeter, drew plans for sites and a schedule of patrols. It is hard to believe that everyone made 15 "outsiders". Most likely, as in Mehran, helped "their".

As the Afghan proverb says: "Pashtuna cannot be bought, it can only be rented." Over the past year, more than 50 coalition soldiers have died from attacks by Afghan troops. After Bastion, the IFOR command issued an order to suspend joint operations with Afghan units of less than a battalion size and limit contacts with the local police. The Afghan units that lived in neighboring tents with the same marines were now isolated from the “brothers in arms”. Loss of trust is a terrible blow. However, in addition to the "moles" in Bastion, there were problems. I'll start with the objective.

"Hole in the fence"

After the raid on the Bastion, the SAS veteran bluntly stated: “The fact that they went through and caused such damage is an obvious mistake, and those responsible for the safety of the Bastion should be dismissed. This is the first. Secondly, the security system needs to be redone. ” The head of the base in Mehran after the raid went into the reserve. And his colleague in Bastion successfully served to replace. Maybe it's not his fault and nothing needs to be redone at the base?


I have been to Bastion. The last time - a year before the raid. I can responsibly declare: there are few places on earth where you feel more secure. A well-thought-out system of hundreds of various reinforced concrete and earth shelters, walls and bunkers makes it possible not only to hide from mines and shells in just seconds, but also to effectively defend oneself in the event of an enemy attack. However, it is difficult to imagine how you can get here at all. The main territory of the base is surrounded by a concrete wall (the so-called blast wall) - ten meters high, with rows of barbed wire on top, in front, behind and in general wherever possible. Plus - "full stuffing" from sensors, sensors, spotlights, etc., etc. Behind the wall every 90 meters are cyclopean watchtowers with machine guns. Expensive, but effective - they say that during the previous attacks, the Taliban physically could not break through the concrete walls of the Bastion.

But strangers here still passed. So there is a “hole in the fence”? As it turned out - there is. Moreover, she was always.

The objective problem of the Bastion is that, besides the fact that the base is actively used, it is also constantly expanding and being completed.

Now the perimeter of the Bastion is more than forty kilometers. In addition to the "residential" and training bastions in it, of course, concluded and the airfield. He is the main element of the base ... and its weak point. The first board on the first runway sat down an hour and a half after the end of its construction. The main transport artery was working hard, and there were no concrete walls - they already laid (to the east) (and in 2010, they put into operation) a second runway, more than 3,5 km in length. Now the airfield accepts cargo C-5, and passenger Boeing-747 used for the transport of troops and other types of super-heavy aircraft. Flight mode - 600 takeoffs and landings per day, and on its east side again build new platforms for technology. We need new infrastructure and living space. And the landscape in the east is more complicated, and by the time the Taliban were storming there were still areas with temporary barriers in the form of a chain-link net. On one of these sites and passed saboteurs.

Leakage

But there is a striking in its obviousness miss. He could have been foreseen and avoided, and therefore he is subjective.

Once the British army purposely built the Bastion in a remote, isolated and uninhabited corner of the desert. But with the advent of the base here, a miracle happened - life began in the barren desert. The garrison of many thousands, among other things, exhausted extensive sewage from the Bastion. As you might guess, they merged them precisely to the south-east. One of the leaders of the base, still in 2010, spoke with affection about how a certain peasant appeared there, began to grow watermelons on the muddy waters and sell them to Afghans-workers at the base.

Further more. More than twenty thousand "refugees" rushed under the side of the Bastion, where they found salvation from the war and ... state programs for the destruction of opium plantations. As usual, after watermelons poppies zakolosilis here, and then the Taliban wound up. Here's how the situation was described by Lieutenant Mark Mensick, whose platoon patrolled the perimeter of the Bastion from the south:

“There are no authorities here, the land belongs to the first who comes to it. The Taliban move completely freely. When we are there, they try to surround us, make a disturbing fire, and then go south. When we are not there, they, of course, come back. ” Homemade mines his fighters picked out here every week.

And makovods act according to the principle: “you know less, sleep better”. Shortly before the raid on the Bastion, a local resident fought: "I have been living here for three years and have never seen the Taliban." What about the AK-47 casings scattered everywhere? "They are left from the Americans, except for them no one is here."
The imam of the local mosque (by the way, the countryman of Mullah Omar) turned out to be even “more honest”. Standing in front of the last year’s crop of opium poppy, he insisted that the villagers grow only wheat ...


As Mensik noted, “all they need here is to grow poppy seeds, get money for it and get away”. So, in order to attack the Bastion, the enemy absolutely did not need to sneak dozens of kilometers across the inhospitable landscape. He calmly sat out very close.

And that is not all. On the way from the village to the base, the villains would certainly have to excite motion sensors and infrared sensors, to attract the attention of patrols with dogs and without and all-seeing UAV cameras. After all, the same Bastion radars track the movement of people and mechanisms over a distance of more than 30 kilometers. Not aroused and not attracted.

Even when the perimeter was being built, in 2010, then the former zavbaza complained that the thorn erected during the day, some dark personalities were being scrapped at night. I assured you that when the security system is adjusted, they will not allow such disgrace. The story is fresh ... Shortly before 14 September, one of the Bastion's officers reported to his wife on the phone that a group of local residents had brazenly cut off and dragged a piece of the barrier from the perimeter. And the sentries on the towers were forbidden to shoot thieves in order to “not spoil relations with the local population” ...

In general, the local population wandered where they wanted and did what they wanted. It is easy to assume that the Taliban quite legally passed through roadblocks (they are in civilian clothes and without weapons!). After the raid, they, however, were asked to move away a little.
But all this was later. And that evening, other people's mistakes were again corrected with blood.
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  1. Dima190579
    Dima190579 24 May 2013 08: 01 New
    +9
    I really liked the article. What can I say. For the mistakes of the generals, soldiers die. For the mistakes of politicians, the people suffer. Not something new.
    1. StolzSS
      StolzSS 24 May 2013 22: 35 New
      0
      About the mistakes of the generals. If I remember correctly the first such raid was made by the Tigers of liberation of Tamil and Llama in Srilanka in the year 99 or 2000 ... and even there was a film dock where all the moments were painted about a group of 15 people and about a hole in the fence and about the hostages and about the electrical substation ....
  2. Fox
    Fox 24 May 2013 08: 15 New
    +8
    but I liked it when "more than a hundred marines fought" with 15 saboteurs ... these are warriors!
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 24 May 2013 08: 19 New
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      Quote: Fox
      but I liked it when "more than a hundred marines fought" with 15 saboteurs ... these are warriors!

      And what is normal. To minimize their own losses, an overwhelming fire advantage is created. It’s not perplexing to you the videos shown by TV from the UK when the house in which the terrorist 2-3 is blocked by 30-50 commandos and even with armored vehicles. Fighting is not sparing.
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 24 May 2013 12: 52 New
        12
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Fox
        but I liked it when "more than a hundred marines fought" with 15 saboteurs ... these are warriors!

        And what is normal. To minimize their own losses, an overwhelming fire advantage is created. It’s not perplexing to you the videos shown by TV from the UK when the house in which the terrorist 2-3 is blocked by 30-50 commandos and even with armored vehicles. Fighting is not sparing.


        It's not about that. It says that unrealistically gallant, armed to the teeth, etc., etc. marines, under the guise of no less gallant tractor drivers and other maintenance personnel, probably including cleaners and plumbers, with a total of more than 100 units, under the cover of helicopters and assault operations, they fought for many hours only 15 unrealistically vicious Taliban, which in the end they managed to destroy only with the help of attack helicopters. The tablis were so vicious that the bullets just hawed like popcorn, and from the devoured grenades except that they farted ... and they could only be destroyed with armor-piercing shells of 30mm caliber ...

        This is how it is difficult for occupiers to live on Afghan soil.

        I think the conclusion should be this - it would be nice for someone to go home, quietly, without prejudice to 200 million in one go.
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 24 May 2013 14: 12 New
          +1
          Particularly pleased with the technology-terminators and fierce Marines.
        2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 May 2013 19: 51 New
          +1
          It was not easier for us to live there .....
      2. Andrew
        Andrew 24 May 2013 22: 46 New
        +1
        that's for sure, there are no duels in the war. all who were close to battle.
    2. igor36
      igor36 24 May 2013 08: 35 New
      14
      Do you think that they should have called them one on one? Or first recount, and then announce the alarm?
      1. Canep
        Canep 24 May 2013 08: 52 New
        13
        Ours would also have acted, and they would have raised another attack aircraft.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 24 May 2013 12: 08 New
        +8
        Quote: igor36
        Do you think that they should have called them one on one? Or first recount, and then announce the alarm?

        Yes, do not pay attention to such a common man who does not understand anything about it.
    3. adg76
      adg76 24 May 2013 09: 53 New
      +4
      Is it different with us? There is enough mess everywhere
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 24 May 2013 10: 36 New
        +5
        The Anglo-Sakas was once again explained that blue blood does not flow in their veins and that they must pay for the occupation of foreign land with their own blood, which ultimately happened. The heroes of Rrenova from helicopters they crushed all, of tanks and armored personnel carriers crushed the militants armed with Kalashnikovs and grenades, who were fighting on their land and for their land. It is generally incorrect to compare our specialists in the Caucasus and these snickering Yankees - invaders - they protect their citizens on their land and have the full moral and other right to use all the equipment and means available in the arsenal.
    4. Delta
      Delta 24 May 2013 14: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Fox
      but I liked it when "more than a hundred marines fought" with 15 saboteurs ... these are warriors!

      It was necessary to do so: -How many Taliban? -Sir, about 15-16. - So, you are there, yes, all seventy, bring down the perimeter, today you are not destined. The first platoon, today only you are fighting, you will earn medals, otherwise we will be accused of dishonesty later.
    5. Containers
      Containers 24 May 2013 21: 07 New
      +2
      It seems that only I understood the meaning of this phrase. What’s the taunt here is not that there was a multiple advantage in manpower and firepower. Here over the fact that, with SUCH superiority, they squeezed "bearded men" for as long as 5 hours. And not in the mountains somewhere, not in the forests, not in the fortified area, but on its own base where every corner is known and familiar. And they could only crush from helicopters.
      In general, it seems that the article is some kind of cheers-patriotic. Like, "Well, it seemed like they were fucked up, but they weren't fucked up!"
      1. Delta
        Delta 24 May 2013 21: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Kosha
        Here over the fact that with such superiority for as long as 5 hours they crushed the "bearded man"

        and there are few such stories when our paratroopers held back a battalion almost without separation? not a little. So why are our heroes at the same time, and shame for the British or Americans? try to be objective
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 24 May 2013 08: 24 New
    14
    ““ An exemplary special forces raid. ”So a veteran of the British SAS called the Taliban raid on September 14, 2012 at a British base in Afghanistan.”

    I didn’t get it, what is exemplary here? Fifteen guerrillas, taking advantage of the gouging of the airdrome’s guard, marched onto its territory and, using simple improvised weapons at hand, caused the damage they could. At the same time they died. Are these special forces? Well, if in the USA such special forces are easier for us. Especially finished off all sorts of heroic remarks, such as:
    "After all this turmoil, they asked me if I wanted to return home by injury. I replied that I had just arrived, and why would I want to?"
    “More than 100 officers and soldiers of the marine corps from the airbases of Yuma and Miramar and the Pendleton base have already fought on the runway. They were the“ shooters ”who stopped the Taliban.
    Pilots and navigators from the ground guided their uplifted colleagues on target and removed ramp machine guns from Osprey convertiplanes in order to support their fellow soldiers with a “twinkle”. One of the subgroups of saboteurs was smoked from the shelter and generally shot “grapes” - the so-called color of overalls for the marine aviation refueling team. What to list - all fought. "
    "But the rest of the marines managed to push the five fighters into the remote zone of the airfield, where they were destroyed by helicopter fire."


    Under a thousand, in total military, with marines, helicopters "heroically" defended the base in a battle with 15 Taliban. The article is similarly published in the central American press.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 May 2013 08: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Under a thousand, in total military, with marines, helicopters "heroically" defended the base in the battle with 15 Taliban


      Good article! It perfectly shows how in the USA they brainwash the townsfolk and inspire pride in their “heroic army”!
    2. adg76
      adg76 24 May 2013 09: 54 New
      +1
      I also thought about the newspaper
    3. vyatom
      vyatom 24 May 2013 10: 38 New
      +4
      It is strange that they wrote that there were only 15. They would have written that 1500 and that 5 Rambo were mowed down by thousands. And then they went to a psychiatrist and drank Coca-Cola.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 24 May 2013 14: 14 New
        0
        Not a lot of five are Arnie the Terminator, Steven Sigal-Niko and Chuck Noris-Texas Ranger and Stalone Rambo. 4 is enough
    4. Delta
      Delta 24 May 2013 14: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Especially finished off all sorts of heroic remarks, such as:
      "After all this turmoil, they asked me if I wanted to return home by injury. I replied that I had just arrived, and why would I want to?"

      it is a matter of terminology - is it heroism or not. Actually, why not heroism? or is it unique to our soldiers?
  4. politruk419
    politruk419 24 May 2013 08: 31 New
    +6
    Fought off, well, well done. There was a surprise on the side of the Taliban, but the amers managed to wake up and cry ... all the bearded. And we need to draw conclusions for ourselves. And do not leave holes in the fences.
    1. Guun
      Guun 24 May 2013 13: 49 New
      +1
      What kind of bearded are you talking about? Put on your uniform - it means you have to be from afar like someone you disguise yourself without beards. There were probably sentries there, although they were American troops ...
  5. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 May 2013 08: 56 New
    +4
    And what is exemplary in operation? If there is a complete mess with security, it would be exemplary to destroy the base almost completely and quietly leave. And firing from RPGs during a technical operation is not special forces, this is idiocy. They came, laid down IEDs, left.
    1. Atrix
      Atrix 24 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: stock buildbat
      And what is exemplary in operation? If there is a complete mess with security, it would be exemplary to destroy the base almost completely and quietly leave. And firing from RPGs during a technical operation is not special forces, this is idiocy. They came, laid down IEDs, left.

      Well, at your leisure, try to organize such a raid, I think you won’t even get to that hole in the fence. Penetrating into the base unnoticed is one thing, but to approach the technology and lay explosives is another. And the quietly walking Taliban inside the Bastion will be discovered very quickly, so that they had no choice but to break through with a fight to the technology.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 24 May 2013 12: 44 New
        +3
        Here is the text: "Having taken out weapons (AK-47, RPK and RPG) and means for undermining equipment, the militants changed into an American field uniform and moved along a dry riverbed to a predetermined section of the perimeter. In 10: 15 they made a passage to a wire fence and infiltrated the base. "

        I do not deny the difficulty of entering a territory where there are no sensors, no sensible guards, or a fence. BUT! Please note that the Taliban were in Amer form and it is not so easy to identify them. That is, they could calmly conduct an operation without a shot from an RPG before they were discovered. smile
        1. Guun
          Guun 24 May 2013 14: 48 New
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          They went to this operation as suicide bombers, there was hardly a plan for leaving. If they penetrated quietly - they could have left quietly after doing business, then the matter was different - to show the Amer that the Taliban could - death is not an obstacle for them. But the fact that 15 saboteurs were beating the whole world - I knew that the Taliban are masters of their craft, but they have been keeping inside the enemy’s nest for so long - people with steel eggs.
      2. Fofan
        Fofan 25 May 2013 00: 23 New
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        Quote: Atrix

        Well, at your leisure, try to organize such a raid, I think you won’t even get to that hole in the fence. Penetrating into the base unnoticed is one thing, but to approach the technology and lay explosives is another. And the quietly walking Taliban inside the Bastion will be discovered very quickly, so that they had no choice but to break through with a fight to the technology.

        there kakbe in the text is written Russian in white RPG and IED
        first five fighters fixed on several IED aircraft
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 24 May 2013 23: 03 New
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      You say correctly, the special operation came and the left went. but here the trick didn’t work out and that’s all.
    3. Fofan
      Fofan 25 May 2013 00: 21 New
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      And what is exemplary in operation? If there is a complete mess with security, it would be exemplary to destroy the base almost completely and quietly leave. And firing from RPGs during a technical operation is not special forces, this is idiocy. They came, laid down IEDs, left.
      how, and as soon as they left - it exploded
  6. JonnyT
    JonnyT 24 May 2013 09: 03 New
    +3
    Relaxed - and got it.
    The beginning you must punish and dry! They didn’t even have a combat crew (or instructions) in their campaign; no one knew how to act in such situations! The guard service was not organized properly ....

    Tex article is too brainwashing in places. Like come heroically to fight the Taliban
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 24 May 2013 10: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: JonnyT
      Relaxed - and got it.
      The beginning you must punish and dry!
      damn, although they served in different armies, they thought the same thing about the chief car. good
  7. pinecone
    pinecone 24 May 2013 09: 18 New
    +6
    The junior corporal rides a tractor to work, in the headquarters (probably a vegetable) complains about the stolen barbed wire, villains excite motion sensors ...
  8. report4
    report4 24 May 2013 10: 10 New
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    What steel eggs do you need to have with a group of a little more than a dozen attack the enemy military base. Here are the real heroes, and not the Americans who sit behind the fence and kill the peaceful people of the air.
    I do not feel any warm feelings for the Taliban, but it is these guerrilla fighters that inspire genuine respect from me.
    Quote: stock buildbat
    And what is exemplary in operation? If there is a complete mess with security, it would be exemplary to destroy the base almost completely and quietly leave. And firing from RPGs during a technical operation is not special forces, this is idiocy. They came, laid down IEDs, left.

    It’s not funny for yourself? They had no purpose to quietly come, lay and leave. They attacked the base. They destroyed a huge amount of material resources of the enemy, killed enemy soldiers, a huge psychological effect. The success of this operation in 5 ++.
  9. alan_07
    alan_07 24 May 2013 10: 12 New
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    "Terminators" - laughing they are cooler than their marines :). ! 5 Taliban against the entire US base :) and even help arrived and arrived, with the power of the weapons of helicopters and night vision devices, we WIN laughing. It is interesting how much after that they bombed the houses of ordinary residents, women and children, under the pretext of the accumulation of the Taliban. They have already lost the war and cannot admit, because there is still a lot of warrior ahead to bring democracy, and if they find out that there is an option to lose the war, then the West may not support it.
  10. Roman_999
    Roman_999 24 May 2013 10: 29 New
    +5
    There are no former ones, and the Taliban’s forces haven’t gone anywhere, their skills have been fostered by the USA quite naturally and have fallen on them, and I’m sure that the Taliban’s test is the same as for the Boston terrorist states, they’re in no hurry and they will systematically destroy the NATO contingent with available means. Many Soviet soldiers died in this country, a bright memory for the guys, but to respect the Truth about the Afghans, I will say that they are the same as We, the defense of the Homeland is a sacred duty for them, therefore, the states that did not conclude from Our Afghan war are doomed in this country to fail. Of course, the United States will have their last turn on the bomb, either from nuclear potential or chemistry, and they will burn it, as they used against Japan many years ago, but they can’t take the Talibs as long as there are mountains, weapons and drugs.
    Threat In essence, what is said to Caesar is Caesar's. Everything returns, evil to evil - for sure.
    1. not good
      not good 25 May 2013 02: 10 New
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      Pupils excel teachers! So teachers and nada soldier
  11. alean245
    alean245 24 May 2013 10: 32 New
    +4
    The imam of the local mosque (by the way, the countryman of Mullah Omar) turned out to be even “more honest”. Standing in front of the last year’s crop of opium poppy, he insisted that the villagers grow only wheat ... laughing
  12. Hemi cuda
    Hemi cuda 24 May 2013 10: 35 New
    +3
    The great and mighty word "rasp..zd..ystvo".
  13. USNik
    USNik 24 May 2013 10: 55 New
    +3
    Quote: pinecone
    The junior corporal rides a tractor to work, in the headquarters (probably a vegetable) complains about the stolen barbed wire, villains excite motion sensors ...
    Also surprised military tractor with corporal behind the remote control wassat Although they have a budget cut and a tractor could be like that?
  14. lesnik340
    lesnik340 24 May 2013 11: 00 New
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    I liked the phrase of the winged infantry commander, "when I hear shots I run towards the enemy," did he run from America to the enemy for several hours or was mistaken in the direction.
  15. wax
    wax 24 May 2013 11: 13 New
    +1
    Yankees - go home! Neh to sit on garrisons around the world.
  16. smart ass
    smart ass 24 May 2013 12: 02 New
    +1
    Of course, all Americans are like heroes)
  17. ed65b
    ed65b 24 May 2013 14: 20 New
    +1
    Dismounting, they ran under enemy fire about a hundred meters to a group of Marines seated at the first hangar. The label asked who would go next with him. There were more volunteers than needed. He took eight and again went "to the fire."
    .What did they sit there? Judging by the fact that 3 came running, he took 8, how many of them sat there ???
    1. Containers
      Containers 24 May 2013 21: 09 New
      +1
      By the number of glasses in the toilet lol
  18. master_rem
    master_rem 24 May 2013 14: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Fox
    but I liked it when "more than a hundred marines fought" with 15 saboteurs ... these are warriors!

    And what is normal. To minimize their own losses, an overwhelming fire advantage is created. It’s not perplexing to you the videos shown by TV from the UK when the house in which the terrorist 2-3 is blocked by 30-50 commandos and even with armored vehicles. Fighting is not sparing.

    About the attacking battle rightly ...
  19. smershspy
    smershspy 24 May 2013 15: 09 New
    +6
    Quote: Dima190579
    I really liked the article. What can I say. For the mistakes of the generals, soldiers die. For the mistakes of politicians, the people suffer. Not something new.


    That's right! There’s nothing to add!
  20. Gado
    Gado 24 May 2013 16: 49 New
    +6
    Quote: pinecone
    The junior corporal rides a tractor to work, in the headquarters (probably a vegetable) complains about the stolen barbed wire, villains excite motion sensors ...

    He laughed, if only the junior corporal rode on the tank and the Taliban moved to gnaw his teeth on the go! laughing
  21. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 24 May 2013 17: 15 New
    +4
    I read the article 2 times. In terms of art, interesting. I didn’t root for anyone. Poh. The Yankees won the Pyrrhic victory.
  22. shinobi
    shinobi 24 May 2013 17: 43 New
    +3
    Somehow, one of the US Army generals asked quite a reasonable question, What will happen if someday American soldiers have to face the modern army, for example, like the German Bundeswehr. Why, this article answers his question.

    PS: All the same, more than a hundred beautifully armed soldiers, air support, didn’t even seem to be trying to get alive. It’s somehow not even sporting somewhere, against 15 people in a defensive battle.
  23. Mister X
    Mister X 24 May 2013 18: 28 New
    +1
    In general, Decl's party was a success.
    "and then to the piano on * rally, we had a wonderful time ..."

    What kind of security of the object on foreign territory can we talk about?
    Remember the September 11 attack.
  24. uladzimir.surko
    uladzimir.surko 24 May 2013 19: 49 New
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    I remember about Pakistan in the year 85, too, 15 people held the defense and longer hi
  25. cooper
    cooper 24 May 2013 19: 49 New
    +2
    I live in Ukraine. And for me, the Taliban are the same scum as the Wahhabis and terrorist attacks in Moscow. I don’t understand either your joy or sarcasm. Or does someone think that Islamic fundamentalism is a problem of America and Israel ???????? Relaxed after Chechnya? Afghan, this is a common problem. there’s nothing to giggle and pretend that we were not there, and we did not brew this porridge.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      NOBODY EXCEPT US 24 May 2013 19: 58 New
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      Soberly and correctly! plus big for your opinion ....
      1. cooper
        cooper 24 May 2013 20: 05 New
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        I am an average Ukrainian nationalist. Therefore, I try to be objective.
    2. Containers
      Containers 24 May 2013 21: 10 New
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      Those. and porridge in afghanistan - are we brewed? "And the chapel ... too ... me?"
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 24 May 2013 22: 55 New
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        Most importantly you do not relax. You also have someone and what to squeeze out under the green flag. And we will sort it out somehow.
    3. Fofan
      Fofan 25 May 2013 00: 37 New
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      Quote: Cooper
      I live in Ukraine. And for me, the Taliban are the same scum as the Wahhabis and terrorist attacks in Moscow. I don’t understand either your joy or sarcasm. Or does someone think that Islamic fundamentalism is a problem of America and Israel ???????? Relaxed after Chechnya? Afghan, this is a common problem. there’s nothing to giggle and pretend that we were not there, and we did not brew this porridge.

      yeah, but Osama appeared out of the blue, right? and the CIA has nothing to do with its appearance? read the story: the ussr created a northern alliance. SUDDENLY, in 2001 after the invasion, the United States began to cooperate with the remnants of the northern alliance. And by the way, one of the creators of the Taliban was Osama, the one who was appointed responsible for 9/11. unexpectedly, right?
  26. SlavaP
    SlavaP 24 May 2013 20: 58 New
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    Yes neh ... n was to climb into Afghanistan neither the USSR nor America. History does not teach anything, as always. Afghanistan is one of the few countries on earth that has NEVER been conquered and conquered. I wonder how many hours the pro-American regime will last there when troops are withdrawn next year? I give no more than 24's.
    1. ed65b
      ed65b 24 May 2013 22: 57 New
      +1
      Another myth. And now that she is free and not conquered?
      1. SlavaP
        SlavaP 25 May 2013 15: 08 New
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        What do you think? The allies / government control several square miles around such “Bastions” (and, as it turned out, it’s bad) and a little further - everything goes as it has been for hundreds of years, and the local leaders wanted to spit on everyone.
  27. mars6791
    mars6791 24 May 2013 23: 39 New
    -2
    I think that these are 15 heroes, because they are fighting on their land, and for their land. The enemy must be respected, it’s hard for me, it’s hard for the enemy too, remember the very first thought yourself, in the war where I went, this is an ass.
  28. mars6791
    mars6791 24 May 2013 23: 39 New
    -1
    I think that these are 15 heroes, because they are fighting on their land, and for their land. The enemy must be respected, it’s hard for me, it’s hard for the enemy too, remember the very first thought yourself, in the war where I went, this is an ass.
  29. PiP
    PiP 25 May 2013 17: 26 New
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    On the faces of the dead militants, experts found traces of paint and suggested that they inhaled the enamel from the spray cans “to dull the senses and find determination in their suicidal mission.”

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!!!! In Afghanistan, the drug is over. wassat rzhunemagu