Footage of the aftermath of the attack on the Ground Forces headquarters in Kyiv has been published.

A video has surfaced online showing the ruins of a military facility. This footage shows the aftermath of the attack on the Ground Forces headquarters in Kyiv.

The video was widely distributed across Ukrainian resources.

The destroyed building that housed the command of the Ukrainian Ground Forces is located on Degtyarevska Street in the Ukrainian capital. Adjacent to it is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces Support Forces command.

The buildings are now in a deplorable state. One of them is completely destroyed. In places, still-burning flames can be seen in the rubble. Near the debris, soldiers are seen carrying out some kind of activity.

As a result of this night's Russian strike, many important military installations in Kyiv and the surrounding region were hit. One of the most significant of these is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. This is one of the locations from which criminal orders are issued to the troops. For example, Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers were ordered to attack teenagers in the student dormitory of the pedagogical college in Starobilsk for several hours.

In addition to the attack on the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces, Russian military strikes targeted airfields, military-industrial complex enterprises, and command and control facilities. The Russian Armed Forces deployed strike aircraft for the attacks. Drones and various types rocket weapons, including the Oreshnik IRBM, the Kinzhal air-launched aeroballistic missile, and the Zircon hypersonic cruise missile.

Comments

[ARIONkrsk]

I am the only one who is confused by the fact that they hit me at night, when no one was at the scene of the attack.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

they struck at night, when no one was at the scene

I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but usually during wartime headquarters work 24/7, seven days a week.

[Montezuma]

Quote from: nik-mazur

I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but usually during wartime headquarters work 24/7, seven days a week.

And all headquarters, even under martial law, operate on kindergarten schedules. Don't you know that?

[K._2]

What bothers me is that it's still standing intact in the 5th year of the war... This headquarters...

[guest]

Quote: K._2

What bothers me is that it’s still standing in one piece in the 5th year of the war.

Not only you.

[Neo-9947]

Was that even possible?................

[ideo098]

I support this, isn't that the goal?

[Alexey Lantukh]

Actually, this is the headquarters building. There's also a backup command post somewhere else.

[Stavitsky_Mikhail]

The headquarters building serves as a backup command post (BCP), while the main command post (MCP) is located underground (in a bunker), protected from nuclear attack. It's highly likely that during the air raid, the entire command staff was in the bunker, a completely self-contained "establishment" (communications, water, autonomous power supply, if needed, food supplies, dining hall, rest areas, etc.).

[Fan-fan]

Most likely, only the building's caretaker was killed. The photo shows the ruins of four rooms, but the house itself isn't destroyed, and not even all the windows are broken. The impact was rather weak.

[APASUS]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Most likely, only the building's caretaker was killed. The photo shows the ruins of four rooms, but the house itself isn't destroyed, and not even all the windows are broken. The impact was rather weak.

The building across the street has no roof at all. The building behind the wall where four rooms were hit seems to have walls intact, but even the window frames were blown off. Would hotels be able to test the force of such a strike? The damage to the building is 100%.

[stankow]

War was not officially declared. Nor was martial law even declared.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Montezuma

And all headquarters, even under the declared martial law, operate according to the schedule of kindergartens

Really... Something's gone wrong. And what's more, not only on schedule, but also on site.

[Synoid]

But at night there were fewer employees.

[fruc]

nik-mazur
Usually during wartime, headquarters work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

There's no one there except the duty officer at the nightstand. Everyone is at the command post (ZKP) and control post.

[helilelik]

They hadn't been touched for so long that they might as well have been there. It's more comfortable than sitting in the cellar. The toilet is right there, after all.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: frruc

There's no one there except the person on duty at the nightstand

In any case, in wartime the presence or absence of personnel at headquarters does not depend on the day or time of the week.
Well, and yet, at headquarters, the duty officers sit in the duty room. They are officers, after all. Standing at the nightstand is company level.

[fruc]

nik-mazur
Standing on the nightstand is the company level.

The nightstand is sacred to a soldier. Officers sit in the duty room, while soldiers run back and forth with brooms.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: frruc

and soldiers with brooms are running back and forth

I would even say that they don’t run, but rush about like fucking brooms.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote from: nik-mazur

I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but usually during wartime headquarters work 24/7, seven days a week.

And they've never heard of bunkers, and they don't even know what they are. They're sitting in their offices at headquarters. What can you expect from them? Right?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

They haven't heard of bunkers... They're sitting in their offices at headquarters... That's right

Do I know? Maybe they've heard, maybe they haven't, maybe they're sitting there, maybe they're not – they're not reporting to me.

[Mikhail3]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Quote from ARIONkrsk

they struck at night, when no one was at the scene

I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but usually during wartime headquarters work 24/7, seven days a week.

Yes, that's true. And it would be great to see the destruction of the ZKP, where this work is being carried out...

[Stas157]

Quote from: nik-mazur

During wartime, headquarters operate around the clock

Are you trying to claim that the generals' headquarters are just as busy at night as they are during the day? Why are you doing this?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Stas157

You are trying to claim that at night the generals' headquarters are no less busy than during the day.

I believe that in wartime the presence or absence of staff at headquarters, including generals, does not depend on the time of day or day of the week.
But I will be interested to read your reasoned objections, since you have them.

[Fan-fan]

And you're wrong to think so; reality is far from what you think. For example, when Zhukov was Chief of the General Staff, he only stayed there overnight a couple of times. People can't work around the clock.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Fan-Fan

reality is far from what you think

I suppose this doesn't apply to what you think, and Zhukov's example (by the way, where did he get it from?) can, in your opinion, be applied to all headquarters, at all times, and in all situations?

Quote: Fan-Fan

People can't work around the clock

Naturally. However, barracks-style living is not unheard of for the military. And when it does happen, people sleep right on the job. High-ranking officers have special quarters with all the amenities, while lower-ranking officers snooze wherever they can find them—in the soldiers' barracks, if they have one, on sofas and folding beds, or even on tables and chairs.

[tsvetahaki]

Quote from: nik-mazur

In addition to the attack on the Ukrainian Ground Forces headquarters, Russian military strikes targeted airfields, military-industrial complex facilities, and command and control facilities. The Russian Armed Forces deployed attack drones and various missiles, including Oreshnik IRBMs, Kinzhal air-launched aeroballistic missiles, and Tsirkon hypersonic cruise missiles.

Do you think that during a war, high-ranking officials sleep during the day and come to headquarters to work at night?
Or have they been stuck at headquarters for five years now?

[nik-mazur]

Quote from tsvetahaki

Do you think that during a war, high-ranking officials sleep during the day and come to headquarters to work at night?

If there's a business need, staff officers can even be confined to barracks. This happens even in peacetime, for example, during exercises. It's even more possible during wartime. High-ranking officers even have special rest rooms with all the necessary amenities for such occasions. Colonels and majors somehow manage without them.
Do you think this is impossible? If so, I'd be interested to hear why you think so.

[tsvetahaki]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Do you think this can't happen?

One famous expert in probability theory, illustrating its provisions, once said: "If the doorbell rings at one in the morning, it could be the Queen of Great Britain, but it is much more likely that the neighbor has run out of matches."
That's what I'm talking about - when it's most likely to cause the greatest damage.
Considering that, judging by the state of the SVO, we do not have any Stirlitzs reporting on night meetings.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from tsvetahaki

when it's most likely to cause damage

Well, if you think that the probability of damage should be assessed based on jokes, then who am I to dissuade you.

Quote from tsvetahaki

Judging by the state of the SVO, we don’t have Stirlitz

Judging by 1941, we didn't have any Stirlitz. However, that's a misconception.

[tsvetahaki]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Well, if you think that the probability of damage should be assessed based on jokes, then who am I to dissuade you.

Actually, this isn't a joke. It's a popular explanation for the difference in the size of the event space.
Are you all betting on Stirlitz? Didn't Stirlitz work in other cases?

[nik-mazur]

Quote from tsvetahaki

Actually, this is not a joke.

Actually, this is exactly a joke in its original meaning.
And I'm absolutely certain it's not even used in probability calculations, much less in planning missile strikes.

Quote from tsvetahaki

Are you all betting on Stirlitz?

You mentioned Stirlitz. Ask yourself why.

[tsvetahaki]

It's all funny, of course, but you still haven't answered the main question in such a mysterious way.
Do you think this was a strike "based on intelligence data"? If so, then it was Stirlitz.
If not, then probability theory. To cause maximum damage.
If, of course, the goal is "causing maximum damage", and not minimal or any damage at all.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from tsvetahaki

Do you think this is a strike "based on intelligence data"?

Of course, according to intelligence data.
Probability theory is used in military affairs, for example, during massive area strikes and/or when calculating the probability of hitting a target. But even then, it's not in its purest form, since mathematical probability theory deals exclusively with random data and/or phenomena, and shelling is not one of them.

Quote from tsvetahaki

If, of course, the goal is "causing maximum damage" and not minimal or any damage at all

This is something turbo-patriotic - I don’t really understand it.

[Bad_gr]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Quote from ARIONkrsk

they struck at night, when no one was at the scene

I don’t know how it is in Ukraine, but usually during wartime headquarters work 24/7, seven days a week.

And what does the complete absence of ambulances, no excavations or fuss at the site of the destroyed building mean?

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Bad_gr

And what does the complete absence of ambulances, no excavations or fuss at the site of the destroyed building mean?

What's so surprising? The building was empty. Maybe they were cleaning ladies or security guards, but who considers them human? And the attack happened on Saturday night.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bad_gr

What does the complete absence of ambulances, no excavations, and no fuss indicate?

I have no idea, because I know nothing about ambulances, or about excavations and fuss.

[Bad_gr]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Quote: Bad_gr

What does the complete absence of ambulances, no excavations, and no fuss indicate?

I have no idea, because I know nothing about ambulances, or about excavations and fuss.

The lack of debris removal and ambulances suggests there was no one in the building. They blew up a dummy bomb.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bad_gr

Lack of debris clearance and ambulances

Strictly speaking, it's not the lack of debris being cleared and ambulances arriving, but the lack of photos and videos of debris being cleared and ambulances arriving.
Although, perhaps you're being briefed at work and know more than ordinary internet users. Or not?

[Bad_gr]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Strictly speaking, it's not the lack of debris being cleared and ambulances arriving, but the lack of photos and videos of debris being cleared and ambulances arriving.

The lack of photos and videos, despite every car having a dashcam and every passerby carrying a smartphone with a video camera and still camera, only suggests that there was nothing to film at the explosion site. Similar incidents involving human casualties always have photo and video evidence. And this despite the fact that in Ukraine, taking photos of the aftermath of our missiles' impacts can lead to punishment.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Bad_gr

Lack of photo and video materials

Show us, and we'll see. I don't see the point in discussing theoretical arguments about smartphones on every passerby and dashcams in every car.

[olegff68]

but usually in wartime headquarters work 24/7

But not in the grand office buildings of peacetime, where the enemy could strike at any time and destroy the entire structure. But in fortified bunkers. Those who planned these strikes seemed to be simply trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

not in the stately office buildings of peacetime... but in fortified bunkers

And you, of course, know where these bunkers are located? Or not?

[Fan-fan]

Most likely, even Russian intelligence doesn’t know this, Syrsky is still alive.

[olegff68]

Come on... Everything serious was built there during the Soviet era—there are no surviving documents detailing where and what's located in Moscow? And don't the various Russian intelligence agencies have any valuable agents left in the former fraternal republic, where every other family has close relatives living in Russia?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

There are no documents left in Moscow; what is located there and where?

Judging by the questions, you yourself have no idea where these bunkers are, do you?
If so, how do you know whether you hit them or not?

[olegff68]

What did they hit us with and when? Which "bunkers"? What are you saying? Do you want to believe that someone at the top has a clear, wise plan and knows what they're doing? Blessed are those who believe. Such believers are rare among the people – because Zelensky is trampling the earth, like his entire entourage, like the entire military-political leadership of "Ukraine," because the bridges across the Dnieper are standing and allowing trains with equipment, weapons, and ammunition to pass through, and yet, in the fifth year of the war, the talking heads of the State Duma insist that these bridges are impossible to take out, considering the people a flock of sheep.
So, in Ukraine they don't hesitate to print obituaries, so who and in what "bunker" did our missiles destroy?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

What did they hit and when? Which "bunkers"?

I don't know. And as it turns out, you don't have a clue either, which doesn't stop you from claiming our guys didn't get anywhere.

Quote: olegff68

You want to believe

Don't project, if you want to believe that no one at the top knows or understands anything, this does not mean that those who disagree with you also believe, only the opposite.

Quote: olegff68

Zelensky... his entourage... bridges across the Dnieper

Chota remembered: “In the head of the mayor, in one corner, there was an organ that could play two pieces of music: “I will destroy!” and “I will not tolerate!”

[olegff68]

I do not know

So no one knows, but when the Ministry of Defense has something to brag about, even if it is something fantastically ephemeral, EVERYONE knows about it.

I don't know...if you want to believe

Any faith is based on ignorance, so shifting the blame is unjustifiable. And the professional incompetence of the Ministry of Defense command is not a belief, but a fact based on the fact that the troops have no communications in the fifth year of the war and lack many of the essential elements that sustain the front and the assistance provided by civilian structures—tactical drones (FPVs, Mavics), etc.

Something came to mind

You are delirious, Count, sleep it off and get over your hangover.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

So no one knows

But everyone we know is commenting on the case.

Quote: olegff68

Any faith is based on ignorance.

You don't know where the blows were aimed, you don't know where they hit or what they hit, but you believe that they hit nowhere and nothing.
It all seems to fit together, doesn't it?

Quote: olegff68

The professional incompetence of the Ministry of Defense command is not a belief, but a fact based on the fact that

...based on what you read on Telegram.

Quote: olegff68

You're delirious, Count, sleep it off and get over your hangover.

Be careful with your words - I was banned for making a similar statement.

[olegff68]

But everyone we know is commenting on the case.

And why not?

You don't know where the blows were aimed.....It all seems to fit together, doesn't it?

No, it doesn't add up. Before commenting, I suggest you read the article, which even includes such marvelous things as photos and videos. There are also objective control footage, which the Ministry of Defense isn't shy about publishing in the event of a successful strike.

based on what you read in Telegram.

Yeah, yeah, right there. And also from what I see in cemeteries, from what I hear from people about wars there, from what I periodically chip in from my pension for (walkie-talkies, drones, etc.)

Be more careful with your words.

I'm very grateful you didn't snitch on me. But I wrote it as is; your speech is completely irrelevant to the topic of the discussion.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

And why not?

Especially if yes. Am I against it? I just noted it.

Quote: olegff68

Check out the article, which even features such a wondrous miracle as photos and videos.

Which you apparently consider exhaustive. I consider them insufficient.

Quote: olegff68

based on what I see in cemeteries, based on what I hear from people

Well, yes, rumors and speculation – that’s exactly what I meant.

Quote: olegff68

I'm chipping in from my pension (walkie-talkies, drones, etc.)

By the way, since you're in the know, could you tell me how many drones and radios the troops have received from the Ministry of Defense, and how many were purchased for training purposes? Just out of curiosity, I'd like to compare the scale.

Quote: olegff68

Velmy Bear

Since we are very...

[olegff68]

Am I against it?

Judging by the context, yes.

I consider them insufficient.

Nothing in nature is absolute, meaning everything and any information can be considered insufficient. But speculating on what's visible is perfectly legitimate. Judging by the lack of ambulances, rescuers, heavy equipment, and debris removal crews, it's as if they simply demolished yet another building. You don't seriously think that in the event of a serious conflict, command and control would be conducted from the offices and main hall of the National Defense Center on Frunzenskaya Embankment. That would be enough to completely destroy all command and control in one fell swoop.

Can you tell me how many drones and radios the troops have?

And you ask the people who were there, well, that's not difficult. And thank you very much – name us at least one tactical drone, strike or reconnaissance, produced not by private initiatives, but by the Russian military-industrial complex on the orders of the Ministry of Defense and officially adopted by the Ministry of Defense? And yes, EVERY soldier should have a radio – just Google how much the Ministry of Defense bought them for. And EVERY soldier needs at least a smartphone with a tactical map and other essentials, like in "Nettles" – but that's just a pipe dream.

Well, yes, rumors and speculation.

And you yourself go to the cemeteries, look at these "speculations", and also tell the mothers and wives of the fallen that this is all speculation, explain to the soldiers on the front lines and to the civilians in the new territories and border areas about speculation.
And finally, you can do titanic work or relax, it doesn't matter, what matters is the result. As a result, Kyiv even has electricity for street lighting, the top military and political leadership is alive, vigorous, and productive, and continues to mess things up, the enemy's military-industrial complex has adapted and is increasingly producing what it needs at the tactical, operational, and strategic levels.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

Judging by the context, yes.

Or not, judging by the fact that I'm sitting here too.

Quote: olegff68

It is quite legal to discuss what is visible

Of course. Moreover, there's nothing illegal about accepting as true conclusions based on two photos and a twelve-second video of unknown origin.
But considering one's conclusions as objective and complete evidence is no longer entirely legitimate. And, say, in court, such materials would not be accepted as evidence, even if their authenticity were confirmed.

Quote: olegff68

You don't seriously think that in the event of a serious conflict, command and control of the troops will be carried out from the offices and the main hall of the National Defense Center on Frunzenskaya Embankment.

Well, of course not. The problem is, I have no idea where that command bunker is located in case of serious combat.
But just for example, the US President's bunker is located right under the White House (if, of course, you believe Hollywood).

Quote: olegff68

and you ask yourself - the people who were there

And why am I not surprised by such an answer that doesn’t answer anything...

Quote: olegff68

at least one tactical drone, strike or reconnaissance, produced not by private initiatives, but by the Russian military-industrial complex

Produced or purchased and supplied? These aren't the same thing, and manipulating these terms is like substituting concepts. I don't know whether this is accidental or deliberate.
In general, I prefer numbers, although I understand that I’m unlikely to see them.

Quote: olegff68

Go to the cemeteries yourself and look at these "speculations"

All over the country? I'm afraid I'm not capable of that. But could you tell me what I might see there and what it means?

Quote: olegff68

to the mothers and wives of the fallen... to the soldiers on the front lines and civilians... electricity in Kyiv... the highest military and political leadership... the enemy's military-industrial complex

I sincerely apologize, but I see no point in arguing with slogans, cliches and emotions.

[olegff68]

Gee ....

based on two photos and a twelve-second video

These aren't conclusions, but assumptions—questions about the wisdom of striking a major office building, especially at night. And these doubts were voiced by many before these "photos and videos" appeared. We also see no obituaries for any of the enemy's personnel. Their troop command and control hasn't collapsed.

It doesn't surprise me... I'm not capable of such a thing... I don't see the point in discussing it.

Behind all your demagoguery, you hide a lack of courage to see the truth, which is perfectly accessible to you. You don't need to believe the "Telegram" people, you don't need to believe the bloggers who announce fundraising campaigns and provide detailed reports on them. Just talk to the guys who are THERE pulling the strings. If you're not capable, then you're not capable.

Manufactured or purchased

The unique thing about the SVO is that the Ministry of Defense is now forced to purchase things that the military-industrial complex didn't commission, things that the military-industrial complex doesn't produce, and things that aren't in service. But you predictably avoided answering the question and, once again, reduced everything to demagoguery.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

Not conclusions, but assumptions

Which in form are difficult to distinguish from statements.

Quote: olegff68

The Ministry of Defense is forced to purchase

So the Ministry of Defense is actually buying something, and the army isn't just scraping by with the results of emergency training. Well, that's something.

Quote: olegff68

talk to the guys who are pulling the strap THERE

Here again, you are sure that I don’t know anyone and haven’t communicated with anyone, and I don’t agree with you only because I don’t want to know anything.

Quote: olegff68

As expected, you avoided answering.

Actually, I was the one who asked first, and you are the one avoiding a specific answer, suggesting that I go to cemeteries, talk to the guys, or tell something (I don’t know what exactly) to the residents of the border regions.

[olegff68]

difficult to distinguish from statements

Problems with your perception. No one here is asserting anything, they're simply expressing opinions, including myself.

That means the Ministry of Defense is still purchasing something.

The Ministry of Defense is certainly purchasing, and purchasing in large quantities, products from private companies using Chinese components. (I haven't heard any information about the production of permanent magnets, even for electric motors—correct me if I'm wrong.) The question was: what have the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex done to organize mass production, with a high degree of localization, of tactical drones?

again, are you sure that I don't know anyone and haven't communicated with anyone

I'm not sure of anything; you were the one who started arguing with me, not the other way around. I understood that you disagreed, but I just didn't see your arguments—"we don't know" isn't an argument. If you think our army has better communications and drones than the enemy, well, just say so.

Actually, I was the one who asked first.

Well, that's just asking questions that NO ONE will answer. And if someone does, you can confidently file a criminal case for disclosure.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

Here, no one is claiming anything at all.

Well, yes, yes ...

Quote: olegff68

Of course, the Ministry of Defense is purchasing and purchasing in large quantities.

Amen. And yet, according to you, it somehow turns out that pensioners are supplying the army with drones and radios through donations.

Quote: olegff68

If you think our army has better communications and drones than the enemy

I asked how many drones the army had from the Ministry of Defense and how many from volunteers. I didn't say a word about communications, nor about the enemy's supply.
Incidentally, the Ministry of Defense officially delivered 1.5 million drones to the army in 2024. I doubt the volunteers purchased a comparable number.

Quote: olegff68

Well, that's just asking questions that NO ONE will give you answers to.

Actually, the first question was how do you know that our strikes didn't hit anywhere if you don't know and can't know where the targets are that these strikes were supposed to hit.
And all the other questions are already a by-product of your answers (which don’t answer anything)

[olegff68]

I'll repeat and end this pointless dialogue - you have a very distorted perception.
No one disputes that the Ministry of Defense is buying a lot of drones, but some say the enemy has more, but that's just mere gossip. And regular donations for walkie-talkies and Mavics—well, you think that's the norm for the fifth year?
You read somewhere that "our strikes missed everything"—again, that's just your warped perception. They do hit somewhere and certainly cause damage—but people have long and frankly wanted to see the military-political leadership of this rotten entity get hit, so that the power grid would shut off across the entire 404 and fuel shortages would start, at least like in Crimea now. It's not enough for people that something happened somewhere, and Ukraine continues to live as before, and continues to fight as before.
Good luck to you and all the best.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

Evil tongues say that the enemy has more of them

How much is this in numbers? I don't understand what more/less means.

Quote: olegff68

Somewhere you read about "our strikes missed the mark"

This idea was a recurring theme in the comments. Your response, in particular, hinted that the attack was futile:

Quote: olegff68

but usually in wartime headquarters work 24/7

But not in the grand office buildings of peacetime, where the enemy could strike at any time and destroy the entire structure. But in fortified bunkers. Those who planned these strikes seemed to be simply trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.

But apparently I misunderstood the idea you wanted to convey (if there was one, of course).
Or maybe you were just expressing your emotions and I took it too seriously:

Quote: olegff68

People would like to see what would happen to the military and political elite... the electricity... would go out... there are problems with fuel... Ukraine lives as it always did, and continues to fight as it fought.

But excuse me, exchanging emotions is not my format.

Quote: olegff68

you have a very distorted perception

Yes, common sense is not considered very normal these days.

[olegff68]

I couldn't resist... When you write about your common sense, you flatter yourself greatly, really, really greatly. You see some red threads there. And the expectation of the destruction of the enemy command—that, in your opinion, is our inflamed emotions. We, too, in your opinion, drove Hitler to suicide out of emotion.
Your entire, absolutely entire logic boils down to one phrase - "the giraffe is big, it knows better", without arguments, without your own opinion, with a troll-like tone like "prove it, provide the numbers, with proof and evidence".
That's it, don't cough.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: olegff68

When you write about your sanity, you flatter yourself greatly.

I agree, from the point of view of those who are deprived of common sense, this is exactly how it should look.

Quote: olegff68

We, in your opinion, even drove Hitler to suicide out of emotion.

Yes, but a week before the capitulation. But during the war, Stalin personally cancelled two already-prepared operations to eliminate Hitler.
Well, that's it... notes on emotional expectations and harsh reality.

Quote: olegff68

Your entire logic boils down to one phrase: "The giraffe is big, it knows better."

No, my position boils down to the fact that one shouldn't judge from above. And this has nothing to do with hierarchy.

Quote: olegff68

without arguments, without an opinion

Chotarzhu. You speak as if my opponents are using arguments and have their own opinions, rather than rehashing the same old cliches, like "fixed matches," "children abroad," "bridges and tunnels," "snotty talk," "Faberge," and so on.

Quote: olegff68

and you prove it, give me the numbers

Yes, I noticed that numbers are not in favor here, but rather terms of female logic are used: always/never, more/less, higher/lower, weaker/stronger, deeper... oh, that's all...

[Zoer]

Quote from: nik-mazur

But usually in wartime, headquarters work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

And who has declared martial law? In Russia? In Ukraine?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoer

Who has this martial law in place?

You know the joke about "they hit you in the face, not your passport?" It's similar here – headquarters operate not based on formal criteria, but on the actual situation. As I already mentioned, barracks regulations can be imposed even in peacetime, for example, for training exercises. Therefore, what's declared and what isn't is irrelevant.
Moreover, in Ukraine, military action was supposedly declared.

[Zoer]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Do you know the joke about "they hit you not by your passport, but by your face"?

Quote from: nik-mazur

If you judge by jokes, then who am I to dissuade you.

BRAVO!!!

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoer

BRAVO!!!

Alaverdi to the master of taking words out of context.

[Zoer]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Alaverdi to the master of taking words out of context.

The context is exactly the same, no need to be so prevaricating. From your side, there's only one difference: whether we're buying or selling.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Zoer

Yes, the context there is exactly the same.

Yeah, whatever you want... I don't really care, actually.

[sergey822]

Well, that's what Ukrainian sources are saying, so don't be surprised. Some FPV drone struck, judging by the destruction.

[RuAbel]

One night, four years later, and in response to the mass murder of children. No, it doesn't bother me, everything is going according to plan.

[Fitter65]

Quote from ARIONkrsk

I am the only one who is confused by the fact that they hit me at night, when no one was at the scene of the attack.

Even in peacetime, it wasn't empty at night. And now, it's packed even at night... Granted, they're not always the most important ones, but it's not a given that they're there during the day either. And so, as the saying goes, even a poor place is a poor place.

[Alisa Tatova]

If they don't beat you, that's bad; if they hit you, "Why at night?" What capricious readers this news has!

[Asker]

We need lists and obituaries of deceased Ukrainian generals and NATO vacationers.
This is called retribution.

[Alexander Shcherbakov]

Perhaps they attacked at night, afraid of responsibility - what if they kill some khokhlo general or, God forbid, NATO member.

[Incvizitor]

No ambulances, no cordons, empty walls, although the crowd is pushing for the destruction of empty buildings on Bankova, so it’s probably necessary.

[kind]

Where are the ruins? There is destruction, but no ruins.

[Montezuma]

Come on, that can't be true, it's a fabrication of facts and the work of AI.
In reality, we're just aimlessly shooting at random—barns, sheds, and outhouses, just to get a tick in the report. Another possibility is that the photos of the landing results are full of civilian buildings being passed off as military installations.

Am I correct in recalling the guidelines for a specific group of local commentators? Did I miss anything?

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Montezuma

Am I correct in recalling the guidelines for a specific group of local commentators? Did I miss anything?

You missed out, and a lot! You were given a "Checkmate" on the other thread! You've completely lost it!

[AdAstra]

Could you tell me which thread this is in? I'd like to read about how the "South American comrade" is being destroyed?

[lisikat2]

Good evening, "all civilian buildings." You're not entirely right: these are old warehouses for "agricultural equipment."

[Dart2027]

Quote: Montezuma

Am I correct in recalling the guidelines for a specific group of local commentators? Did I miss anything?

No, we didn't miss anything.

[invisible_man]

Quote: Montezuma

Am I correct in recalling the guidelines for a specific group of local commentators? Did I miss anything?

Don't you find these "results" funny? Especially in the fifth year of the war.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Montezuma

Missed nothing?

They forgot about pinpricks. And that it has no impact on the situation on the front lines.
Oh yeah, and in the West everyone laughs, isn't afraid of anything, and is becoming increasingly brazen.

[Gavrilo Princip]

Write this to the parents of the deceased children. And you're smart enough to add a smiley face, too.

[78bor1973]

I think this headquarters could have been reached by a FAB during the day, but I don't think such targets are "counterfeit" at night! So what if they wasted an expensive missile on a hole in a house?

[Buchenland]

Where does the fab need to be thrown from so that it reaches Kyiv?

[RuAbel]

From the Union State, and for a long time now.

[78bor1973]

There are FABs that can fly 200 km.

[fruc]

Riddle: What will happen if a rocket falls on the Ukrainian Armed Forces building in Kyiv?
Kiev will be filled with tags and smelly slippers.

[rocket757]

A brick building of SOVIET construction... to destroy something like that, you would have to have something truly powerful!!!

[mitrich]

They partially destroyed another building in Sumer. Not a single one of them was killed, because it was night, so it was clear there would be retaliation; there were no idiots.
Is this the result? This is sadness. These are the answers.
P.S.: Thousands of similar buildings in the cities and villages of Sumer have already been turned into rubble.
Clowns ....

[Stas157]

Quote: mitrich

Partially destroyed

The dormitory in Starobelsk suffered more damage.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The building is certainly doomed. But it's a bit small for a serious headquarters...
And I think that Ukrainian He's not that stupid, the management is unlikely to be sitting in such a hovel in full view of everyone...

[solar]

Most likely there was some kind of archive there. An old, small building.

[Silhouette]

More publicity than actual results. One bay of the building was destroyed and windows were broken.
And it's all?
Where are the ruins?
Ruins in Gaza.

[Couch analyst]

Compared to Starobilsk, it's a bit weak, especially the building in the splash screen. Even the floor is intact, and the Bandar-logs didn't have to dig up the rubble; they just shoveled the trash. The migrant workers are hardworking; they'll patch up this hole in a day.

[BAI]

1. The strike should have taken place in 2022.
2. The hohols themselves say that there has been no one there for a long time, everyone has crawled away to reserve command posts.
By the way, lol, they hit the Black Sea Fleet headquarters back in 2022 (and there was no one there then), and we only just now got around to it.

[Stalingrad2010]

Who was punished for the mass murder of children? That is the question. Did one of the Banderite leaders die tonight, or are they carefree this morning sipping coffee and snorting coke?

[tralflot1832]

Zelensky has a habit of making his dreams come true in reverse. Let the "post office" issue a stamp for the stricken headquarters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kyiv. We have a chance to see the "brotherly people" at a lavish funeral in the streets, kneeling and bowing. It will be interesting to see them shouting their slogan as the coffins are carried past. And what about the port of Odessa? I'm not satisfied with the result yet. Something significant has been completely destroyed.
Tomorrow is Monday – Europe has a tough day. We need to summon Russian ambassadors to their Foreign Ministries and draw "red lines" for them.

[Dinic]

At night. When there was no one there.

[spyder100]

No one has been there for a long time. Control is carried out from protected command posts built during the Soviet era. But our leadership is unaware of this.

[Alexander X]

This building would look much better with a group of generals and colonels present there during the day...

[Goroches]

Quote: mitrich

Clowns ....

Thank you for introducing yourself, but judging by the content of your comments, everything is clear with you.

[tralflot1832]

Zircon hypersonic cruise missile?

[jovanni]

One of the most significant of these is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. This is one of the places from which criminal orders are issued to the troops.

So criminal orders will be given from other places. It would be better to destroy those giving these criminal orders, not their buildings...

[jovanni]

Quote: Stalingrad2010

Did any of the Banderite leaders die tonight?

Unlikely. The building itself is partially destroyed...

[Hiller]

It's pointless to waste ammunition there. There aren't any of the personnel they're looking for. Even the office workers are in the basements. The rest are hiding in other places built by the USSR. In protected command posts. Primary and backup.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: hiller

It's pointless to waste ammunition there. There aren't any of the personnel they're looking for. Even the office workers are in the basements. The rest are hiding in other places built by the USSR. In protected command posts. Primary and backup.

Try explaining this to Montezuma. According to his posts, Zelensky should sign the capitulation right now! "All is well, beautiful Marquise! And things are looking good for us!"

[Hiller]

But why bother? It's a thankless task to "convert" anyone to your "faith." Especially since these are all professionals, with positions, ranks, and vast experience in commanding troops. As one character in a good movie once said: "Trust the historian. It's impossible to make someone happy against their will!"

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: hiller

"Trust the historian. It's impossible to make someone happy against their will!"

Bringing happiness against one's will is debatable! Converting to the faith is possible! The baptism of Rus' is proof. The birthplace of Islam is the territory of modern-day Saudi Arabia. Where is Islam spread today?

[Hiller]

It's possible to convert. But this method has nothing to do with humanity. Like the Crusaders did, for example. "For the Holy Sepulchre!" And they weren't alone. Historically proven—by fire and sword.
This is what our soldiers and commanders are doing now.
This is neither the place nor the time to get involved in a religious discussion.
Absolutely.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: hiller

It is possible to convert to your faith... As the Crusaders did, for example.

The Crusaders did not proselytize. The goal of the Crusades was to liberate Christian holy sites in Christian lands captured by Muslims.

[Grancer81]

And was it still intact?

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Grencer81

And was it still intact?

Imagine, it was intact! A serious question: are you by any chance from the 2012 military unit?

[Grancer81]

No, I served in military units 2020 and 2553.KTPO.

[Bumblebee_3]

No, I served in military units 2020 and 2553.KTPO.
Happy holiday! To those on guard!

[Bumblebee_3]

Grencer81 (Vladislav Yazhikov)
Sorry, I didn't look carefully, judging by the nickname and the numbers, I was mistaken!

[tabex]

Did any of the military staff officers die in the attack? Oh, and you warned two days in advance that you would be launching a "strike of impotence."

[Rusfaner]

"...many important military installations in Kyiv and the surrounding region were hit. One of the most significant among them is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces." (c)

Just now?!
How many of our people have been beaten before they realized they should be targeting headquarters! I dread to think what would have to happen for them to strike at bridges, tunnels, and (the unthinkable!), to mine the Odessa port!

[Dart2027]

I look at the comments - it's all whining, "Why did they beat me... there's no one there... it's PR..."
And why am I not surprised.

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote: Dart2027

I look at the comments - it's all whining, "Why did they beat me... there's no one there... it's PR..."
And why am I not surprised.

And what is wrong?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

And what is wrong?

Quote from: nik-mazur

What's especially piquant is that these are the same commentators who are criticizing the authorities for not attacking Bankovskaya for the sake of PR.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Dart2027

It's all whining, "Why did they beat me? There's no one there. It's PR."

What's especially piquant is that these are the same commentators who are criticizing the authorities for not attacking Bankovskaya for the sake of PR.

[Grancer81]

Why criticize the authorities? They do it well themselves...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Grencer81

Why criticize the authorities? They do it well themselves.

It's even more unclear why. However, trashing the authorities is extremely popular in the comments. And this happens completely regardless of what they do or don't do. It's reminiscent of a conditioned reflex, like Pavlov's dogs—when the light comes on, it means they need to secrete gastric juice.

[spyder100]

These objects were supposed to be hit on February 24, 2022.

[invisible_man]

Hitting such facilities is pointless, as they are not used for combat command and control. They house offices, reception areas, archives, and so on.

[Fangaro]

Header photo...
There is damage to the building, but in Starobelsk the damage to the dormitory is significantly worse.
I don't understand why they were in the dorms. Did someone drink too much vodka or something?

[Bumblebee_3]

Quote from Fangaro

I don't understand why they were in the dorms. Did someone drink too much vodka or something?

As a former Ukrainian citizen, knowing their mentality, I advise you not to try to hold anything sacred in Nazis! For them, the only thing sacred is their private life!

[Fangaro]

Quote: Rusfaner

"...many important military installations in Kyiv and the surrounding region were hit. One of the most significant among them is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces." (c)

Just now?!
How many of our people have been beaten before they realized they should be targeting headquarters! I dread to think what would have to happen for them to strike at bridges, tunnels, and (the unthinkable!), to mine the Odessa port!

I agree with you. The headquarters should have been attacked in April, May, and June of one of the past years.
Or don't attack headquarters at all, but launch a separate military operation in February of some previous year. A police operation. To protect Ukraine's constitutional order. With the support of CIS member states.

It's a pity there is no time machine.

[AK-1945]

The destruction is not impressive at all.

[Ed Mac]

Not a single car. Everything was carefully removed. Moscow probably warned them first to avoid any trouble?

[Dedok]

Not a single car.

a strike on an empty building...

[Carlos Hall]

Congratulations to the perpetrators of this successful attack. All Oreshnik, Zircon, and Khinzal missiles reached their targets. They were not intercepted.

[Fangaro]

Quote: Bumblebee_3

Quote from Fangaro

I don't understand why they were in the dorms. Did someone drink too much vodka or something?

As a former Ukrainian citizen, knowing their mentality, I advise you not to try to hold anything sacred in Nazis! For them, the only thing sacred is their private life!

In the beginning...
Are there any exes?
Sorry!

Are you a communist? Does your personal life mean nothing to you?
This is about the division between us, the communists, and them, the Nazis.

[ideo098]

Some enemy building, it’s unclear why it’s still functioning in the 5th year of the war, isn’t that a target?
Even if they decided to shoot back, the goal isn't equal. And who died there?

Think how many Russian families have been visited by grief, how many young families will now never be created, how many Russian children will now never be born.

[Mykola Kovach]

Not a single ambulance!!! So they were attacking abandoned buildings, as usual? This is a very decisive response from the leader to the mass murder of children.

[aszzz888]

One of the most significant of these is the headquarters of the Ukrainian Ground Forces. It is one of the places from which criminal orders are issued to the troops.

1000000% that no one's been there for a long time. Especially after our announcement of a retaliatory strike against the unnecessary one.

[ugrums1961]

Note that at the time of filming there were no ambulances or emergency services, they simply hit an empty building and the result was zero, simply ZERO, why send missiles at all if they didn’t destroy anyone.

[Vik ganz]

Russia has destroyed the workplace of generals and senior officers. This includes military infrastructure: communications, contacts with other headquarters, command and control equipment, and much more. Now they will be managing troops and drafting plans "on their knees." And in modern warfare, that's...

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

This should have been done on the first day of the war.

[Alexander_K]

Airfields and military-industrial complex enterprises were subjected to strikes by the Russian military

You forgot to add: the port of Odessa, and: all designated targets hit. That will make it more familiar.

[aleks.29ru]

They hit me at night and broke the windows. It's somehow disproportionate.

[Alisa Tatova]

Great news! And let those who are dissatisfied and doubtful in the comments continue to rage, as this actually confirms that Russia's headquarters is doing everything right.

[KCA]

Kinzhal and Zircon are bunker buster ammunition, most likely fired from the Kh-101 or the old Kh-555.

[SergeyIV]

I don't understand something: having destroyed buildings, our command claims that a "retaliatory strike" has been carried out and that the perpetrators have received "the punishment they deserve"?

[AdAstra]

Those stupid Jews and Americans, they still fight the old-fashioned way, destroying enemy headquarters in the first days. Why not learn from the "progressive" parts of the world, where only a partial supply of troops arrives at headquarters in the fifth year of hostilities? And if the dormitory hadn't been hit, that headquarters, or whatever they're calling it, would still be standing intact. You read that news and just feel a slap in the face, nothing more.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from AdAstra

Those stupid Jews and Americans are still fighting the old-fashioned way and destroying enemy headquarters in the first days.

And how, they win right away, I guess?

[AdAstra]

Probably yes, but what no?

[nik-mazur]

Quote from AdAstra

Probably yes.

Where, for example?

Quote from AdAstra

and what isn't

You know how to fight properly – you should tell us about Israeli and American victories as a result of strikes on headquarters.

[Pilot]

Where did the hazel fly to? What struck him?

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

nobody knows, there are only lies around

[nikon voron]

The building is pretty much intact. They beat me at night when everyone had left the building. If anyone was in the building, it was most likely the guards.

[Vik ganz]

Why is it necessary to warn diplomats to leave Kyiv during Russian attacks? After all, diplomats are directly involved in the destruction of Russian civilians by supplying weapons and intelligence from NATO countries to Ukraine. How are they any better than the officers of those countries?
This means that they are also combatants.

[Anotag]

I wonder if there will be pictures of the strikes on the Verkhovna Rada, on the television center, on the Government House, on Zelensky's residence, on the viper's nest where the worm-overseers from England and elsewhere sit... and not at night, but around 11 a.m., so that everything can be seen exploding and burning...

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

there won't be any of the blows you mentioned, aren't you tired of waiting 4,5 years?

[Anatoly Eliseev]

We're fed up, we don't expect anything anymore, only higher taxes and prices from the Mishustin government.

[MA3UTA]

The former tank, KVTIU, was ruined.

Judging by the shrapnel marks on the outer walls of the checkpoint, one missile failed to reach its target and impacted on the road or in a residential building.

[uncle Vlad]

Well, finally, the 5th year of the war.

[Declarant]

The Ukrainians claim that the building has been empty since the beginning of their rule.

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

Something is wrong, everything is out of place

[Anatoly Eliseev]

What's the point of hitting the buildings? There was probably no one there last night. They'll move on. Now, reducing the center of Kyiv to rubble—that would be something!

[Strelok1976]

Not satisfied with the ruins.