Defense Ministry: Ukraine and Moldova staged a blockade of the Russian peacekeepers in Transnistria

Peacekeepers in Transnistria were subjected to a transport blockade by Ukraine and Moldova, Russian Assistant Minister of Defense Colonel-General Valery Yevnevich said on Tuesday at a round table meeting in the State Duma on the development of integration relations of Transnistria with neighboring countries.

“We ensure the stability of the situation in the Transnistrian region and are most interested in this,” said Yevnevich. - Russian peacekeepers operate in a transport blockade. Recently, not a single issue has been resolved on the movement of our goods through the territory of Ukraine. ”

“We are not allowed to fly through Ukraine’s airspace,” ITAR-TASS quoted a general.

According to him, the representatives of Ukraine nod to the Moldovan side, and the representatives of Moldova to Ukraine. “No arguments are expressed to us,” said Yevnevich.

“As a result, the material and food supply is blocked, which affects the daily activities of our units,” the general said. At the same time, he referred to the experience of his trip to the region, when his car with diplomatic numbers was not allowed from the territory of Ukraine to Transnistria.

“I had to go with a local entrepreneur I knew in his car,” Yevnevich added.

At the same time, the Assistant Minister pointed to the free movement of foreign military.

“On Monday, within the precincts of Kolbasnaya, where our ammunition depots were located, we detained two officers from Great Britain and Poland, operating under the cover of the OSCE for intelligence purposes,” Yevnevich noted. “They are familiar to us because in 2008, they fled from the territory of Georgia to South Ossetia to collect military information.”

The general expressed the hope that the problems of transit of the Russian military through Ukraine to Transnistria will be raised in the near future during the visit of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine to Moscow.

The discussion was attended by the leaders of the unrecognized Pridnestrovskaia Moldavskaia Respublika, deputies of the State Duma and parliamentarians of Ukraine.

Russian peacekeepers were brought into the zone of the Transnistrian conflict in 1992, which made it possible to stop the fratricidal war, during which more than a thousand people died, tens of thousands were injured and became refugees.

Since then, there has not been a single outbreak of violence. This enabled Chisinau and Tiraspol to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

Comments

[Tatarus]

Well, again, the fraternal state of Ukraine dirty tricks. She is not a good Ukrainian power, but most importantly democratically chosen by the fraternal people by the Ukrainians. Moldovans can at least be understood, they care about the integrity of their country. And Ukry is simply out of principle. Nothing more to say. Further emotions.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Tatarus

Well, again, the fraternal state of Ukraine

At such a pace, the word BROTHER will soon be quoted.

Quote: Tatarus

. And Ukry is simply out of principle.

Yes, this is not a principle, these are reciprocal steps to our concessions on gas and so on. Ukraine has no moves against Russia, and they use it, at least, for something. Only to whom it will sideways reveal another question.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

At this pace, the word BROTHER will soon be quoted

Fraternal there is a people, and the state is NOT fraternal, and indeed it has never been fraternal.

[Patton5]

Creation of the Ukrainian "independent" state is the most unfriendly step towards the Russian Federation !!!!!!

[Patton5]

What question? rhetorical? Ukrainian politicians do not see beyond their belly!

[smel]

And to chatter on the head is weak ??? The pretext is the creation of life-threatening military conditions and situations !!!

[Warrawar]

Quote: Tatarus

Well, again, the fraternal state of Ukraine dirty tricks. She is not a good Ukrainian power, but most importantly democratically chosen by the fraternal people by the Ukrainians. Moldovans can at least be understood, they care about the integrity of their country. And Ukry is simply out of principle. Nothing more to say. Further emotions.

Looks like it is not so "brotherly"

[krasin]

Recently, not a single question on the movement of our goods through the territory of Ukraine has been resolved. ”
Bastards

[Kolya]

Do not identify the traitors in power who commit these provocations with the Ukrainian people. These traitors just want to drive a stake between Russians and Ukrainians.

[3dmaxsev]

When choosing Yanukovych, voters hoped, among other things, for rapprochement with Russia. I personally, this news is unpleasant and insulting to read. And how much can one repeat that power and people are different concepts.

[elmir15]

Quote: 3dmaxsev

When choosing Yanukovych, voters hoped, among other things, for rapprochement with Russia.

Here closer to the elections, Yanukovych will again begin to rejoice over the rapprochement between Ukraine and Russia in order to gain more votes. I won’t be surprised if Klitschko also promises everything, as Yanukovych did in his time.

[Ivan.]

Quote: Tatarus

state Ukraine

It can not be called fraternal as the state of Moldova and the peoples as they were fraternal and will remain.
Standard error, as with the Russian state, but is it ours?

Quote: Tatarus

She is not a good Ukrainian power, but most importantly democratically chosen by the fraternal people by the Ukrainians.

The contradiction is obvious, we are sure that democracy (the power of the controlled crowd) is a lie, so where are the misconceptions about the elections?

Quote: Tatarus

Moldovan can be understood

Moldovan is really possible to understand, but not the Moldavian state and the people themselves do not support it.

Quote: Tatarus

about the integrity of their country cherish.

Well, like in Obkhazia with guns. When one of us gets ours, the people's state and the country will recover - a "bad" example is contagious.

[fenix57]

Oh, these authorities of Ukraine and Moldova are "bowing" before NATO ...
And two officers from Great Britain and Poland had to be shot in general - "when trying to escape" ... they will stick their nose less where their dog ... does not stick.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: fenix57

And two officers from the UK and Poland generally had to be shot, -

Pole first !!! With Aglichan, everything is clear, but this is where it climbs.

[Ivan.]

I testify: they had a quarrel, the Pole shot Nagl and refused to give up - I had to shoot like a dog in a shootout.

[Canep]

Since then, there has not been a single outbreak of violence. This enabled Chisinau and Tiraspol to negotiate a peaceful resolution of the conflict.

Maybe it makes sense to get them out of there, just agreed and are not going to fight.

[Tatarus]

As soon as we get Moldova all the agreements on the drum will become and again the massacre.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Canep

Maybe it makes sense to get them out of there, just agreed and are not going to fight.

How is Georgia in August 08? Nobody would agree if everything was mutual. Pridnestrovie wants independence, when they left the USSR, everyone talked about "democracy", but when it came to secession from the countries themselves, they turned on the back one.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Canep

Maybe it makes sense to get them out of there, just agreed and are not going to fight.

This is precisely what they are achieving in Europe! Saakashvilli was not going to fight either, and everything demanded the withdrawal of our peacekeepers. If ours leave, the warrior is inevitable.

[Captain Vrungel]

If the Russians withdraw from Transnistria, then there is a very big chance to meet the Romanians in Odessa. And the general is not smart. It is necessary to pay at the border to both customs officers and border guards, and cross the border at least in a convoy, but for each paid car. We live by the concepts, not the laws. And it’s time for Russia to pull out its lands of New Russia from the territory seized by criminals from that region and eagerly breathing titular Svidomites on them from the Dovbush cave.

[MG42]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

If the Russians withdraw from Transnistria, then a very big chance to meet the Romanians in Odessa

With such a budget Ukrainian. army about 2 billion dollars for 2013., a lot will not war.

[pinecone]

The answer of Kiev on the NATO examination ticket. The two detained officers are supervisors of the selection committee.

[luka095]

The actions of Moldova and Ukraine are similar to an agreed action. And each of the countries pursues its own goals. The Moldovan authorities, obsessed with "reunification" with Romania, want to squeeze out the peacekeepers as a hindrance. Ukrainian - once again show their loyalty to the European Union, shitting Russia.

[Canep]

I remember Ukraine showed somehow its loyalty by cutting off gas to Europe in January. I don’t think that Europeans will quickly forget it.

[Warrawar]

Quote: luka095

The actions of Moldova and Ukraine are similar to an agreed action. And each of the countries pursues its own goals. The Moldovan authorities, obsessed with "reunification" with Romania, want to squeeze out the peacekeepers as a hindrance. Ukrainian - once again show their loyalty to the European Union, shitting Russia.

As if later, such flirting with the "reuniting" Romania, did not work sideways for Ukraine itself, when the already "reunited" Great Romania wants to return back its historical lands, which are currently part of Ukraine, on the basis of bird rights.

[adg76]

The one who is stronger has the right to land. Now it is Ukraine. Tomorrow, one can say with great confidence, with the support of the West, Romania will have rights. And Poland will be added to Romania. Although the Poles raise the question of land is not a hand. The Germans will ask Gdansk from them. But in general, when the denouement comes, everything will fall into place. We are expecting a conflict between Ukraine, Romania and Poland over the territories, because Ukraine is weaker than ever because of its power. I think Russia will have to repeat August the eighth. It’s just a pity that we will have to pay with the blood of our soldiers for the thoughtless policies of the Ukrainian and Russian leadership

[Ivan.]

Quote: Warrawar

As if later, such flirting with the "reuniting" Romania, did not work sideways for Ukraine itself, when the already "reunited" Great Romania wants to return back its historical lands, which are currently part of Ukraine, on the basis of bird rights.

So she already wants, then our "local" Ukrainian officer told about this and about the exercises or a plan (I don't remember) to counter the seizure of territory by Romania.

[Ivan.]

Quote: luka095

The actions of Moldova and Ukraine are similar to the agreed action.

It is time to remember that the independence of Moldova and Ukraine (as states) is a myth.

[Aristarch]

Oh, Yanukovych, but in the president’s election campaign he relied precisely on slogans on rapprochement with Russia in all directions. He deceived his people means Russia.

[Karabin]

Russia has no clear foreign policy. Prostitution with NATO transit and "non-base" remains prostitution, no matter what good aims may be justified. So what can we expect, after that, from Ukraine, Nazarbayev, Karimov or Rakhmon?

[Patton5]

Here we need a tough policy towards government officials and loyal business in Ukraine, and at the same time simplify the entry and issue of citizenship to Russians from an independent one, create public organizations, takeover Ukrainian enterprises, etc. persistently and firmly !!!!!

[kartalovkolya]

Conversations, conversations, our soldiers suffer from these politicians! And how would the amers react to this? Remember at least the Berlin events. The lack of power is the reason!

[120352]

Adequate measures must be taken. Block the gas, do not let their goods into Russia and do not export their goods to them. Let's see how many days they hold out before being asked to recreate the Soviet Union!

[adg76]

Ukraine will be crushed and torn apart after our departure faster than we can return there

[kartalovkolya]

Again the eternal question: who is to blame and what to do! And you need to do the same as the amers. Observe your interests, and let the rest adapt to us!

[Nayhas]

I wonder why Ukraine does not apply for the territory of the PMR? After all, historically this is Ukrainian land?

[Curculum]

Quote: Nayhas

After all, historically this is Ukrainian land?

Could you indicate the historical stages of the formation of the Ukrainian state on the territory of modern Transdniestria?

[Nayhas]

Until 1940 it was the territory of the Ukrainian SSR ...

[Curculum]

Quote: Nayhas

Until 1940 it was the territory of the Ukrainian SSR

But what was the Ukrainian SSR before 1940: a formed state with recognized borders, or a republic within a formed state? Considering the period from the beginning of the formation of the Ukrainian SSR to 1940 - what does the term "historically" have to do with it?

[posad]

It is high time to say goodbye to the concept of "brotherly" people. This is a wiring for money. All! Scattered in different directions - no brothers! Russia has no brothers - only parasites, who will always betray in difficult times. We need to think about our national interests, about our citizens. It will be good with us - brothers and sisters will crawl on their knees.
Into the account of Ukraine. It is necessary to introduce its economic blockade. The West will not help her, the domestic political situation will worsen and Ukraine will fall into two states. With the fact that it will more or less be loyal to us to carry out cooperation based on economic benefits. Stop squandering natural resources on parasites

[Mr.M]

It is not that simple. The people are truly fraternal, the problem here is in the top of the state frostbitten on the head. And do not forget that any kind of sanction-blockade will primarily hit ordinary citizens of Ukraine, and not the liberal political elite. Which will only create another barrier between our peoples.

All attempts to bring discord between the CIS countries come from the West. Just breaking the relationship, we just play into their hands.

[posad]

No. The people are not fraternal. Dear, you are like an orphan from an orphanage who constantly boen relatives.
Bulgarians are "brothers" too, so what? not better. When they separated, they said that they would feed themselves without us. Let them eat what they produce. We didn't get any worse. Stop wasting the national treasure on these parasites.
Another barrier? So what? What is this for us?
Enough to blame everything on the West, enough of this paranoia. It's time to learn how to count money.

[Patton5]

Very short-sighted! How can you want your brother to crawl to your knees (this is no longer brotherly))) But what about ordinary people (Russians) who, by their own will, have become citizens of Ukraine? It’s very clumsy to crush the whole of Ukraine, ordinary people loyal to Russia will suffer from this, and the rulers against this will set up public opinion against the Russian Federation ... A tough but precise reaction is needed here, for example, this or that politician, an official in hostile actions against the Russian Federation and beat him!

[Ivan.]

Quote: posad

It is high time to say goodbye to the concept of "brotherly" people

Goodbye posad

[mojohed]

I fully support the posad in its statement. All NATO countries and their accession candidates pursue only their interests, and we all cherish some kind of internationally fraternal self-deception regarding our enemies. We must proceed only from national interests political egoism - this is the path of efficiency in world politics and economics.

[Patton5]

Under the same slogans, the USSR was destroyed and plundered!

[Ivan.]

Quote: Patton5

Under the same slogans, the USSR was destroyed and plundered!

He just wants to be in kind, too, but for some reason we wrote. Of course I would go there too, but exclusively on the tank!

[Reserve buildbat]

Or maybe just arrange the supply of aviation to the peacekeepers? An Il-76 is walking with a load, and around "for order" a link of Su-27 and a link of Su-24

[Ivan.]

Read the article carefully

[Reserve buildbat]

Read carefully. Span they prohibit. For this and the convoy. Air defense moves - to answer. What kind of prohibitions for the supply of Russian Russian perpetrators to Russia! Maybe they will begin to tell us how to supply our troops in the country?

[Ivan.]

There are always other methods of influence (not only power ones), ours will not be left there - this is simply ruled out.
By the way, the irresponsible way that you proposed will double the price of supply and give you a trump card in accusing Russia of aggression.
Or are you just giggling here?

[Reserve buildbat]

The proposal of course was not serious. But in principle, the situation itself infuriates.

[clip07]

Otto von Bismarck:
“The power of Russia can be undermined only by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, set off two parts of a single nation and watch how brother will kill his brother. To do this, you only need to find and cultivate traitors among the national elite and with their help change the self-consciousness of one part of a great nation to such an extent that it will hate everything Russian, hate its kind without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ”

[sscha]

All that can be said after this is to learn history!
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[clip07]

Always and in detail ....

[Aeneas]

Nuuu something like this: "The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) detained five officers of the FSB of Russia, who tried to obtain information that represents military secret. This was stated by SBU head Valentin Nalyvaichenko at a press conference in Kiev, UNIAN reports.

According to him, a “hot” personnel officer of the Russian special services was detained while receiving information from a citizen of Ukraine that is state secrets, and transferring a fee of $ 2 thousand for the information provided.

The meeting with the agent, according to him, took place 14 km from the state border. At the same time, the cover in the second car was carried out by three more officers of the FSB of the Russian Federation, a serviceman of the operational group of Russian troops of the Transnistrian region of Moldova.

Nalivaychenko said that the actions of his subordinates, who covered up espionage action and ensured the safety of a scout, were watched from afar by their leader - lieutenant colonel, head of the military counterintelligence department of the FSB of the Russian Federation in the OGRV, who escaped from the scene, leaving his subordinates.

During a personal inspection of the detainees, SBU officers seized an espionage tool: digital voice recorders, a camcorder mounted in a fountain pen, a container for storing digital data camouflaged under a key fob, including instructions for an agent, laptop, memory stick, $ 2 thousand.

As Nalyvaichenko said, one of the evidence that the action was carried out by officers of the FSB of the Russian Federation is the fact that a photocopy of the secret instruction that regulates the intelligence activities of the FSB of the Russian Federation was revealed on the mobile phone’s memory card.

As it turned out, the senior intelligence officer of Russia specially arrived from Moscow to manage the intelligence operation. All the detained Russian officers entered Ukraine from Transnistria.“The peacekeepers spy, the peacekeepers are spied. The usual gestures of the“ knights of the cloak and dagger ”from which it is not necessary to inflate the rubber zhenchina. And then ... There is no transport blockade between Ukraine and Transnistria, cargo passes without delays, so why can't the Russians? At the same time, it’s not poluchaetstso exactly from the military, because the civilians are all calm. Well, it’s natural why the Russian Foreign Ministry is silent, and such "stuffing" is sent to the press. , shoot down planes in Georgia and vaasche "lay down under the omerikantsev." All these are links of the same chain tied by the same propaganda hype in Russia. We must prepare the Russian people for the next series of "chmyreniya" brothers-Ukrainians!

[ale-x]

Let's see if you are right, however, in Georgia there were also many provocations with the military personnel of the Russian Federation. We all learned about the results of the events from the 08.08.08 news releases.

[Aeneas]

provocations were on both sides. But Russia has a more diverse instrument of influence on the post-Union countries through the media that still remain "allied", through economic wars (access to the Russian market is prohibited for a lot of Ukrainian products), and countries with internal conflicts - so at all, all the trump cards are in hand! .. Separatists and terrorists miraculously become fighters for freedom and democracy, and legitimate governments become fascist autocrats (as in Syria).

[in reserve]

Here is another smart Ukrainian. who, as always, move out of their jambs, skillfully transferring them into the bosom of Russia, "when the Ukrainian was born, the Jew began to cry."
Give a link to your yellow press.
What would you like to spy on, what secrets to look for, it would be better to follow the amers, but I forgot they are now your friends.

[MG42]

Quote: Aeneas

The Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) detained five officers of the FSB of Russia, who tried to obtain information that represents military secret. This was stated by SBU head Valentin Nalyvaichenko at a press conference in Kiev, UNIAN reports.

What year is the news with this long gray beard? Nalyvaichenko led the SBU with 2006 by 2009 biennium, now the people's deputy in the Klitschko party "Blow" in the VR.

[Tan4ik]

I really thought we were brotherly people. Everything turned out to be in vain. I am very sorry for ours there.
PS People may be fraternal, but politicians are scum!

[Ivan.]

Quote: Tan4ik

I really thought we were brotherly people

Your cheap thinking if you change so easily.

[Ezhaak]

After all, this is far from the first time. Ours simply must know that it will be repeated more than once.

[Algor73]

Don't jump to conclusions from this article. Painfully contradictory article. And the general drives a private car, and he recognizes Western spies in the crowd. And if we consider that the generals are not saints, then it is quite possible that someone is pursuing their own mercantile interest. Something not to believe that just like that, the Moldovans and the Ukrainians agreed and banned the transportation of supplies. Such processes are regulated at the highest level, this is a military facility, and someone is violating agreements. And under the hype, you can again play on "brotherly" feelings. Once, when I was still studying, one teacher often repeated - "Learn to read between the lines, because each article has a specific goal."

[Ivan.]

Sane comment is a primitive reaction.

[Ivanovich47]

Ukraine, as a mischievous neighbor, makes Russia’s dirty tricks from around the corner. On any issues, economic, political, cultural, where it is necessary to resolve issues of good-neighborly cooperation, Ukraine will surely make Russia vile. The question is Why? Why is an independent neighboring state, which in words declares "fraternal friendship", is in fact a source of "fraternal enmity"? I think the whole point is in the ruling elite of Ukraine. These gentlemen, they climb out of their skin to please the West. And provocations against Russia are very conducive to this.

[Patton5]

Spit them both west and north east! who bought one and orders music, market relations however!

[Patton5]

minus, then do not agree ?! and the reasoned answer is weak?

[Ivan.]

Quote: Ivanovich47

independent neighboring state

Do not be silly

Quote: Ivanovich47

Ukraine, as a harmful neighbor, makes Russia’s dirty tricks from around the corner

Ivanovich you still say that the Russian state expresses your interests.

[fenix57]

Quote: adg76

Ukraine will be crushed and torn apart after our departure faster than we can return there

It is a pity that the leadership of "Square" does not understand this.

[Restoration]

Remember Yushchenko’s provocations at Russian military facilities in Crimea. Comparing with the current situation in Prenistria, one handwriting is quite recognizable. As before, and now the Western intelligence services have their advisers in the Defense Ministry, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine.
With such actions, Yanukovych simply wants to "bend" before the European Union, which has kept Ukraine on a short leash since the "Orange Revolution". The completely corrupt Ukrainian elite has long been unable to pursue its own independent policy. Frightened by possible arrests of their billion-dollar assets abroad, the current government is trying with even greater zeal than the openly pro-American previous one to serve the Washington (or Brussels) regional committee.

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Restor

They are familiar to us because in 2008 they fled from Georgia to South Ossetia to collect military information. ”

Wow already and the Poles and the British were pulled by the 2008 war)

[Restoration]

Quote: GEOKING95

Wow already and the Poles and the British were pulled by the 2008 war)

They were drawn from the very beginning ...

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Restor

They were drawn from the very beginning ...

is there evidence? or just a word?
P.S. when minisuruite, it is necessary to distract for which the proof too))

that’s how Americans write in World War II. Our grandfathers killed and raped German women and children! and that I should believe it without evidence? I do not believe because it is just a word

[Restoration]

What evidence do you need - that the Georgian army is completely at the mercy of the Western intelligence services?
Leave the house and see what uniform your army is wearing, what equipment it is riding today, what weapon it uses.
A lot has been written about the training of the Georgian commando by British and American instructors in nete - there is no point in retelling.

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Restor

What evidence do you need - that the Georgian army is completely at the mercy of the Western intelligence services?
Leave the house and see what uniform your army is wearing, what equipment it is riding today, what weapon it uses.
A lot has been written about the training of the Georgian commando by British and American instructors in nete - there is no point in retelling.

I'm talking about the detention of the Poles and the British 2008 year!
and on what technique? :)) T-72 54 / 55 BTR 60 70 80 tank! su-xnumx mi-xnumx mi-xnumx. BMP 25 24 RPG) not all NATO!
the British did not train and the Poles too))

WHERE THE EVIDENCE of the detention of the Poles and the British 2008 year! I did not find

[Opera]

Quote: Algor73

Hasty conclusions from this article should not be done

What haste can one talk about? All conclusions have been made a long time ago, and I don’t even want to mention the reasons for these conclusions!

Quote: 3dmaxsev

When choosing Yanukovych, voters hoped, among other things, for rapprochement with Russia. I personally, this news is unpleasant and insulting to read

So it offends me, because there are no steps aimed at rapprochement with Russia!

[fastblast]

I do not believe the media, politicians and other demons.
Conclusions I will not rush.

By the way, there is an excellent article on topvar regarding the media: http://topwar.ru/28284-na-kogo-rabotayut-rossiyskie-smi.html

[Thunderbolt]

On May 22, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) issued a statement denying the fact of the detention in the Transnistrian village of Kolbasna, where Russian ammunition depots are located, two officers from Great Britain and Poland who operated under the cover of the OSCE for intelligence purposes, as reported on the eve of the Assistant Minister of Defense of Russia, Colonel-General Valery Evnevich. According to the OSCE press service, the information about the detention of the OSCE mission staff in Moldova "contains a number of inaccuracies."
"None of the OSCE staff was detained. The OSCE Mission continues to operate in accordance with its mandate on both sides of the Dniester," the OSCE said.
In turn, the press secretary of the OSCE mission in Chisinau Paula Redondo added that the mission includes British and Polish citizens, but none of them was detained. Redondo also said that the mission staff had already repeatedly "in accordance with their mandate" tried to visit Kolbasna, but were never allowed into the Russian ammunition depots. At the same time, Moldova and the OSCE are consistently seeking to conduct an "inspection" of Russian ammunition depots, and periodically send "inspection teams" from NATO member states there, referring to the Vienna Document on Confidence and Security Building Measures, which provides for the exchange of information on the armed forces by signatory countries. In turn, the Pridnestrovian side opposes such "inspections", noting that the PMR is not among the signatories of the Vienna Document, and such "inspections" in the Security Zone of the Moldovan-Pridnestrovian conflict have nothing to do with the peacekeeping operation in the region.
Details: http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1661973.html#ixzz2U2iYZH9X