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Migration Code of Russia: a new dummy or a real trap for illegal immigrants?

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At the beginning of the week, it was reported from the Lower Chamber of the Russian Parliament and the FMS of Russia that Russia will soon begin developing a single document regulating migration flows relating to the Russian Federation. This single document will be referred to as the Migration Code, and a working group composed of representatives from various departments and committees will conduct its activities to create it. This information was shared with the media by State Duma deputy Alexei Zhuravlev, who, being the leader of the Motherland Party registered at the end of last year, remains in a strange way a member of the United Russia Duma faction. However, we will not discuss the political views of the deputy Zhuravlev, it is not about that.


The thing is that for all the years of the existence of the Russian Federation, the migration problem in the country is overdue and overripe in some places. However, for all the same years of the state’s existence, lawmakers have failed to create a full-fledged system document that would allow to effectively regulate migration processes. Representatives of the State Duma declare that we have hundreds of separate documents that to one degree or another relate to the migration situation in the country, but these documents often contradict each other. This kind of contradiction leads to the fact that migration control is not debugged, and this in turn becomes the cause of the unregulated entry and exit of foreign citizens in Russia (from Russia), the movement of Russians themselves in their own country. Hence, the aggravation of economic and demographic problems, the increase in the number of crimes committed by migrants, dumping in the labor market, and much more.

Obviously, if the Migration Code will appear in our country in the near future and at the same time will be a truly effective instrument of migration control, then for Russia this will be a clear blessing. After all, if you do not notice the migration problems and pretend that everything is in order in this regard, then uncontrolled migration can become a real threat not only for the country's economy, but also for security (in all senses of the word) of Russian citizens. It is noteworthy that if the Migration Code appears in Russia, and the deputy Zhuravlev speaks about the 1,5-2 years required for its development, this will be the first document in which the definition of the word “migrant” will appear. Surprisingly, so far this concept is not defined by Russian legislation in any way, as are such concepts as “migration”, “migration relations” and even “indigenous people”. If we start from what is in the Russian legislation today, it turns out that even the use of the term “illegal labor migrant” in Russia is inappropriate, as lawmakers do not provide a legal explanation for this concept. It turns out illegal, sort of, and not at all. A strange legal incident - you will not say anything ...

In fact, illegal migrants are not just there in Russia (as we all understand perfectly well), but in the millions in our country, they are calculated. At the same time, no competent authority can accurately state the number of illegal labor migrants in Russia. The reason is that these same migrants stay in Russia, but at the same time do not bother with registration procedures, payment of patents and work permits. There are only approximate data, according to which the total number of labor migrants on average in Russia is more than 10,5 million people (this figure most often flashes in reports of various accounting agencies, as well as in various media). The figures do not claim absolute accuracy, but at least they allow us to understand the scale of labor immigration in our country — the number of people who arrived in Russia for work from foreign countries.

At the same time, according to data from the FMS, 2,6 has received official work permits in the Russian Federation by millions of foreign citizens. This number appeared after the Office analyzed cash receipts for issuing patents for domestic work. It turned out that labor migrants who arrived in our country from abroad, brought the budget of the state 32,8 a billion rubles in the year 2012. It would seem a considerable amount. But ... Considering how many labor migrants who didn’t want to get any patents and permits, but decided to work illegally at their own peril and risk, didn’t bring revenues to the state treasury, then the unpleasant picture emerges: 2,6 million migrant workers - 32,8 revenue of billion rubles, about 7,5 million migrant workers - the budget lost income of about 95 billion rubles. This is comparable to the budget, for example, the entire Nizhny Novgorod region with its 3,3-million population. And this, if we start only with the number of millions of labor migrants in 10,5, which were voiced earlier, and how many are they in real, shall we say, calculus? ...

It turns out that the Russian treasury acquired from labor immigration, at best, only a quarter of what it could have acquired - and this is only for issuing patents for legal labor activities to foreign nationals arriving in the country.

If you believe the representatives of the State Duma, then to combat illegal migration, the FMS staff will be able to quickly move illegal immigrants to places of mass use of labor. Now (and this looks just paradoxical), representatives of the FMS, it turns out, should warn the employer that they are going to check him for the presence of illegal workers from foreign countries as workers. Moreover, the FMS should inform about such verification in a few days. A sort of option: hide all of our illegal immigrants from us - we’ll stop by to see you at the end of the week and if we find them - don’t be offended ... As they say in the FMS: who hasn’t hid, we’re not to blame ...

In general, the general picture is as follows: not a single department of Russia, even the one that is supposed to control migration flows, can not tell the exact number of labor migrants in our country, can not give an accurate assessment of what losses are due to illegal labor migration is borne by the state treasury, and what percentage of crimes in Russia is committed by labor migrants. Hopefully, the development of the Migration Code will help the same departments to more or less accurately figure out the figures, if, of course, they (the representatives of the departments) have such interest.

By the way, discussing the topic of possible adoption in Russia of the Migration Code, it is necessary to note the position of Dmitry Medvedev on the fact of attracting foreign citizens to our country to perform certain jobs. The Prime Minister said the following:

This topic is neither positive nor negative. This is just our life. Firstly, we live in an open country, when people come and go. Secondly, we live in a difficult demographic environment, when we need additional workers. It is unlikely that Russia in the coming years and decades will be able to completely abandon the services of visitors. Because we ourselves do not want to work. For example, janitors. By the way, I was sweeping the streets as a student.


At the same time, the head of the Russian Cabinet of Ministers said that we (ordinary citizens) often underestimate the legislation of Russia, thanks to which high-class specialists can come to our country, for example, from Germany or the Netherlands.

The fact that Dmitry Anatolyevich swept the streets at one time is, of course, commendable. As students, most self-respecting citizens of our country tried to find any job in order to have at least some pocket money. But it’s hard to agree with the words of the Prime Minister that “we no longer want to work.” In this case, Dmitry Anatolyevich would not be worth collecting the oligarchs, officials, heads of various companies with state capital and members of their families, who are really used to working exclusively for them, and most ordinary Russians, into one heap. In order to see that Russians (in particular, Russians) want to work and work in a wide variety of specialties and with a variety of remuneration options, it’s enough just to walk around the country - walk along the streets of provincial cities, look at the production, talk, what is called, without cameras and spotlights with ordinary laborers.

At the same time, what is called the need to attract, let's say, low-ranking positions of labor immigrants to Russia, in fact looks more like banal dumping. Simply put, it is often artificially created all the conditions for the representative of the indigenous population to refuse to work: additional workloads, cuts in wages, reduced holidays and much more. And after that, you can already say that the Russians are completely lazy - you see, they don’t want to work as janitors ... So the question is solved easily: in order for indigenous people to show enthusiasm for even the most prestigious work in large quantities, it’s not necessary to “write out” guest workers to millions and then try to catch them in order to take an exam on the knowledge of the Russian language and sell them a work permit, and use the same funds to open and develop jobs for the Russians themselves. After all, it is much easier to raise the salary of the same janitor with a Russian passport than, excuse me, trying to find money in order to take into account and equip “labor reserves” from abroad, which may be willing to wave the brooms. And maybe they will not express ...

At the same time, the examples that Dmitry Medvedev cited (about Holland and Germany), to put it mildly, do not exactly reflect the reality in terms of the “emission centers” of labor migrants arriving in our country. Undoubtedly, highly professional and educated personnel from abroad the Russian economy could be useful, but ...

You must admit that there is hardly a city in Russia in which labor migrants, for example, from Germany, would block car traffic in the mass prayer right on the street. It is unlikely that “guest workers from Rotterdam” arrange “wall to wall” somewhere in Russia with “guest workers from Frankfurt am Main”. And at the stations of the Moscow metro "hot" guys from somewhere in Eindhoven hardly scoff at Russian girls ...

And if so, then why are we trying to offer clearly substituted concepts. What are the Germans, what are the Dutch, and most importantly, how many are there? .. Within the limits of statistical error ...

Apparently, as long as our Government attracts labor migrants to Russia (indiscriminately) as a conscious need, shutting its eyes to crime and dumping of the labor market, the Migration Code as a migration regulator will have little chance ...

Therefore, it remains to wait for the first results of the work of the working group: will the Migration Code become just another legislative void, or will it be thanks to it that the real order in the migration sphere will improve.
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  1. Warrawar
    Warrawar 22 May 2013 07: 16 New
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    Russia needs strict regulations on the use of foreign hired force, as well as a visa regime with countries in Central Asia. Otherwise, in the future, things can go much worse. And how much “worse” it can be, you can see the example of some European countries that have allowed themselves to “migratory mess”.
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 22 May 2013 07: 29 New
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      Quote: Warrawar
      Russia needs strict regulations on the use of foreign hired force, as well as a visa regime with countries in Central Asia.

      These measures must necessarily introduce criminal liability for illegal immigrants for repeated violation of the visa regime.
      1. Warrawar
        Warrawar 22 May 2013 07: 35 New
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        And for the first violation, a fine and deportation, at the expense of the violator or at the expense of the embassy of his country. With a subsequent ban on entry for several years.
        And most importantly, I want to say, I do not advocate discrimination against anyone, I just advocate order in my country and on its borders.
        1. Russian
          Russian 22 May 2013 11: 10 New
          +6
          It is noteworthy that if the Migration Code appears in Russia, and the deputy Zhuravlev speaks about 1,5-2 years required for its development, this will be the first document in which the definition of the word “migrant” appears.


          What if he appears? What does it mean if ?! This problem had to be solved yesterday, and he claims about 1,5-2 years! This is nonsense! Instead of solving this really very serious problem, they are doing something incomprehensible! Although the authorities such a situation is very profitable, cheap labor, why pay Vanya normal money? Better for a pittance let the visitors inject! Secondly, it is a loyal electorate, they will definitely vote for the party in power, and finally distract the population from the terrible situation in the country where the village is dying out, small towns disappear, the demographic situation is critical. Let the visitors hate, they are to blame for everything, but we have nothing to do with it, we care about the people!
        2. Siberiak
          Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 47 New
          0
          All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
      2. UzRus
        UzRus 22 May 2013 09: 12 New
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        These measures must necessarily introduce criminal liability for illegal immigrants for repeated violation of the visa regime. - And also for those officials whose duties include monitoring the visa regime.
      3. mansur
        mansur 22 May 2013 10: 25 New
        +3
        Good afternoon, comrades.
        This single document will be referred to as the Migration Code.
        And why just woke up when the problem has ripened, and has long overripe, why until the thunder strikes, we will not cross ourselves.
        Why it was impossible to make illegal immigration legal, came to work, not only and necessarily registered, so that they know who you are and what you are, work for God, work contract and be kind enough to pay taxes and work honestly do not break laws and follow traditions and customs host country
        1. mansur
          mansur 22 May 2013 10: 32 New
          +1
          I’ll add, but in my opinion it’s not profitable not only and not so much for immigrants, but for many employers themselves it is beneficial not to pay taxes and keep workers in the position of slaves, sometimes, sometimes they often live in a room of 10 people or more without a bath and normal nutrition, well, and various state organizations, they take it on their paw and cover it, if everything was according to the law, and everything went to the state in the form of taxes and payments, for which they are needed - they will lose their personal income sources
          1. 3 inches.
            3 inches. 22 May 2013 10: 36 New
            +4
            here I am about the same. there are many such people. I move every day. the builder himself. literally bring them in like slaves and treat them like slaves. I was so illegal as something closer than the person who lives by their labor.
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 06 New
          +6
          And why just woke up when the problem has ripened, and has long overripe, why until the thunder strikes, we will not cross ourselves.


          Because last year there were unrest and people showed that they were dissatisfied with something. Well, the authorities deigned, not even to get out of the palaces, but the Internet sent their sixes. And in the country it turns out soooo !!!.
        3. Normal
          Normal 22 May 2013 14: 25 New
          +3
          Quote: mansur
          Why it was impossible ....

          Because it is not necessary.
          No need for a new Russian grabbing luck (and a piece of state property on the ball) by the tail.
          No need for the president-prime minister and all other bureaucratic (in life-long positions) company.
          The snickering deputies, whose main task is to convert presidential administration directives into laws, do not need to.
          The siloviki, busy with squeezing and protecting the business, do not need it.
          Nobody needs this.
          All are engaged in budget growth, the formation and redirection of financial flows, profit-making and the arrangement of themselves.
          Everyone is happy with everything. Only when the population begins to yell about what can no longer be seen and impossible to endure, then our state management system with a creak depicts a semblance of activity, and even then with one toe of the back foot.
      4. fzr1000
        fzr1000 22 May 2013 10: 56 New
        +3
        And just “close” or ochchchchen heavy fine business owners using illegal immigrants.
      5. 3 inches.
        3 inches. 22 May 2013 12: 23 New
        +3
        first of all, tough sanctions against those who hire them.
      6. Egoza
        Egoza 22 May 2013 12: 24 New
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        Quote: GreatRussia
        introduce criminal liability for illegal immigrants for repeated violation of the visa regime.

        And for their "employers"
      7. Artmark
        Artmark 22 May 2013 17: 35 New
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        And I think that it is necessary to make the base of the Federal Migration Service and the border guards uniform! I will say why, a foreigner came or flew to Russia, give him 3-5 days to register, if he (she) did not register him on a black list in a common base, like he I got a fine or deportation at his expense, but rather at the expense of his state. hi
      8. Svyatoslavovich
        Svyatoslavovich 22 May 2013 19: 56 New
        +1
        It is also necessary to add the criminal liability of employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Federal Migration Service, etc. for protection, extortion and other crimes related to illegal immigrants. And then it’s a miracle, at some sort of construction site they will find a hundred other illegal slaves. forces, spent two years there. And all these two years, no one saw them and didn’t know anything about them, wonderful.
      9. Siberiak
        Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 45 New
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        All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
    2. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 22 May 2013 09: 27 New
      +2
      And how to oblige those who are already here to get visas? To do this, it is necessary to take everyone to their homeland or arrange extradition at the embassies. It’s hard to organize such an event. It should be borne in mind that the majority of Tajik Tajiks do not care about the next piece of paper. They are already used to doing without them, including getting around with the help of our officials (scammers)
      1. Pharao7766
        Pharao7766 22 May 2013 10: 29 New
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        As long as the hucksters and the Judas they bought sit in the government and in the Duma, for whom the people are just **** and most importantly it is profit - there is no question of which normal law.
        I repeat once again - ONLY high-class foreign specialists and citizens of countries with close ethno-cultural ties (Ukraine, Belarus, etc.) should work in Russia.
        As for the movement of citizens of the Russian Federation within the country, strict regulation is also needed here.
    3. Mitek
      Mitek 22 May 2013 10: 25 New
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      Quote: Warrawar
      Russia needs strict regulations on the use of foreign hired force, as well as a visa regime with countries in Central Asia. Otherwise, in the future, things can go much worse. And how much “worse” it can be, you can see the example of some European countries that have allowed themselves to “migratory mess”.

      Well, I do not believe in any regulation, neither hard nor soft with our corrupt bureaucrats. In order to stop the mess, you first need to restore order in yourself, you need to plant bureaucrats of fucking for a long time and with confiscation. Until this happens, all laws are fiction.
    4. optimist
      optimist 22 May 2013 11: 03 New
      +7
      Russia needs a complete change of political and state system. Migrants are beneficial to Putinoids: cheap and dumb labor; if necessary, a “lightning rod” for its used box, etc. It’s like in the old well-known joke: it’s not the signboard that needs to be changed, but the “girls” !!! laughing
      1. Normal
        Normal 22 May 2013 14: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: optimist
        and "girls" !!!

        Not girls, but boys. And the first two .... to begin with ....
    5. elmir15
      elmir15 22 May 2013 12: 20 New
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      Quote: Warrawar
      as well as the visa regime with countries in Central Asia.

      Why is it possible only with the countries of Central Asia, even with the Baltic states, to warn Ukraine that if you do not enter the customs union, we introduce visas, maybe these measures will accelerate entry into T.S.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 22 May 2013 12: 29 New
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        Quote: elmir15
        warn Ukraine that if you do not enter the customs union we introduce visas, maybe these measures will accelerate entry into TS

        Already warned. And they also gave a deadline for the preparation of foreign passports and all sorts of forms. AND ENTER !!! Here’s how you introduce it, and our “zarobitchane” will get a bummer, then it’s as if the unrest will be and the requirements for joining the TS will be more numerous. Then our power will "scratch"
        1. elmir15
          elmir15 22 May 2013 22: 58 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          AND ENTER !!! Here’s how you introduce it, and our “zarobitchane” will get a bummer, then it’s as if the unrest will be and the requirements for joining the TS will be more numerous. Then our power will "scratch"

          Everything is known in comparison. It turns out that in order to reunite, albeit for the time being by the customs union, it is necessary to make a little pain in the beginning, but then after the reunification everything is compensated by the prosperity of both peoples.
      2. anton107798
        anton107798 22 May 2013 23: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: elmir15
        speed up entry



        will accelerate EU accession. According to the latest estimates of the Razumkov Center for Social Surveys, 47,7% of Ukrainians for joining the eurozone, 13% of respondents favored not joining anywhere, not in the CU not in the EU, 12% abstained and 30% for joining the MTC ... who are interested and who knows Ukrainian language here

        http://www.razumkov.org.ua/ukr/poll.php?poll_id=865
    6. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 39 New
      0
      All this is good ... I’m afraid, however, that they will begin to introduce a visa regime not from Asian but now from Slavic states ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people.
    7. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 43 New
      0
      All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
    8. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 44 New
      0
      All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
    9. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 44 New
      0
      All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
    10. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 45 New
      0
      All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
    11. Siberiak
      Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 47 New
      0
      All this is good. I’m afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian but now from Slavic states, and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you won’t please the people ...
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 May 2013 07: 18 New
    +7
    Obviously a very low amount. It’s scary to imagine how many more “unaccounted for” have spread across the country. For other countries, let their governments hurt their heads. One thing is clear - it is necessary to protect borders very seriously.
  3. treskoed
    treskoed 22 May 2013 07: 19 New
    +4
    It turns out that the Russian treasury acquired from labor immigration at best only fourth from what you could acquire - and this is only on the granting of patents for legal labor activity to foreign citizens arriving in the country.

    The remaining three quarters are the reason for all the outrages! Where big money - any law is silent!
  4. Warrawar
    Warrawar 22 May 2013 07: 24 New
    +7
    I will make a small repost from another forum:
    On Monday, a round table was held in the State Duma on the development of the Migration Code of the Russian Federation.

    The event was attended by deputies, scientists, representatives of various ministries and departments, as well as ordinary Muscovites. The latter were most unhappy. A man who called himself a representative of the residents of the Khoroshevo-Mnevniki district said the residents no longer knew what to do: “In the territory of the former state farm, all the greenhouses were demolished in 2012 and an illegal camp for illegal migrants was built. We filled up all authorities with letters "the sense is zero."

    According to him, a hundred buses are being taken away for migrant work, residents are afraid to leave their homes.

    The opinion of the Muscovite was joined by the deputy chief of the metropolitan police, General Vyacheslav Kozlov. According to him, "there are hundreds of such cases in Moscow." But the police can not do anything - the police only draw up a protocol and give it to the passport and visa service. The general said that only a few years ago, immigrants from near and far abroad accounted for 12% of the total number of crimes committed in Moscow. Now there are 47% of them.

    “If not for the newcomers, Moscow would be the safest city in the world!” The general assured. “Nobody knows how many migrants we have at all. Some say five million, some eight. And we all have them here , in Moscow, graze! " Public figures were worried that migrants in Russia did not know where to turn for medical and legal assistance. What is better to inform them, learn the language, improve literacy.

    General Kozlov said this: “You all say that migrants do not know anything. But at the same time they all become so cunning! They all go around Moscow without documents. And without documents we can’t judge them. It’s only to establish an identity a month and a half. "

    Only a ticket to expel an illegal immigrant costs the state 15 thousand rubles, not to mention all other procedures. Nobody particularly contacts them: "At the same time, we arrived at Khoroshevo-Mnevniki, carried out a raid, detained a bunch of people, and they were all without documents!" - told General Kozlov. The moderator of the round table, a member of the State Duma’s defense committee, Alexei Zhuravlev, agreed that something urgently needed to be done, "otherwise we will get such enclaves near the Kremlin soon."

    So what to do? There are many ideas, moreover, directly contradicting each other. There were proposals at the round table "to do as Zhirinovsky suggests - to introduce visas, and then not give visas to anyone."

    The head of the Federal Migration Service, Konstantin Romodanovsky, on the contrary, believes that we need migrants and that "we must squeeze everything out of migration."

    The same general Kozlov proposed forcing each migrant to put 15 thousand rubles at the entrance. on deposit - if he violates the migration legislation, then he will be deported for that money so as not to transfer costs to the Russian budget.

    Some experts call the problem of internal migration even more serious than external. The most difficult region is the North Caucasus. There is also no agreement between the experts. Representatives of the Center for Migration Policy of the IHPS Research Institute of the Higher School of Economics noted that the installation of a federal center to develop tourism in the Caucasus will not lead to anything. In Soviet times, Chechens, Dagestanis and Ingushs were considered good builders, and now it is necessary to form labor brigades from them and send them to construction sites throughout the country.
    1. Strashila
      Strashila 22 May 2013 09: 04 New
      +6
      "Only a ticket to expel an illegal immigrant costs the state 15 thousand rubles." ... Yes, this scheme has long been working especially with the Vietnamese (yes there was a story about them) ... they work ... they send the loot to their homeland ... and they go to give up FMS ... those they !!! treat !!!, feed and buy a ticket to their homeland.
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 07 New
        +3
        And above the general has already suggested how to solve the issue of expulsion - 15000 for deposit and let's go!
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 15 New
          +3
          Why not 30? 15 thousand is just a ticket. Another month on state grubs until the identification. And at the entrance to the deposit write off the cost of the patent.

          The question is different - this idea had to be implemented as far back as 10 years ago, in ten years of exhaustive search we would have found an acceptable solution. But power is impotent.
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 05 New
      +4
      In, even the police, that is, the police, have already talked about this! In general, it’s certainly a horror to live in your own country and be afraid to go out! Where are these fucking authorities in general ???
      Public figures were worried that migrants in Russia did not know where to turn for medical and legal assistance. What is better to inform them, learn the language, improve literacy. - Cho for nonsense ??? They are better than you, human rights activists, they know where to turn to! Yes, you yourself help them, weevils are politically correct!
    3. sams
      sams 22 May 2013 10: 21 New
      +6
      There is an opinion:
      “One of the main topics in Russia is the topic of migrants, in the capital of the Motherland, the Slavs became a minority. Nationalist phenomena are intensifying in cities, threatening to develop into battles. Zionist-Jewish authorities prevent Russians from returning to their homeland, creating red tape with pieces of paper, and at the same time bringing migrant workers. The FMS suddenly began massively checking passports, and millions of Russian returnees became illegal.Jew Romodanovsky announced that migrants should be imported to Russia for permanent residence, despite the fact that in Russia up to 30% of the unemployed are planned to import 25-300 thousand people every year, Zionists mix nations and stir up ethnic conflicts, preparing a civil war.This scenario was tested in Yugoslavia between Albanians and Serbs.In Russia, young Slavs are taken to this plan, speaking out against Caucasians, but do not wonder who brings migrants into the country.Leaders of movements like SS or DPNI - either, or Jewish provocateurs. We should not become a homogeneous mass - non-Russian peoples but they are ruled by Jews, in addition, there are Caucasian, Asian, and even Ethiopian Jews. The cowardly Jews, we just gave them sovereignty, and they spread the infection of tolerance here. "
      http://era-vodoleya.info/viewvideo/1240
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 32 New
        +1
        Cho, are the Jews to blame here too?
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    4. Garrin
      Garrin 22 May 2013 22: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: Warrawar
      General Kozlov said this: “You all say that migrants do not know anything. But at the same time they all become so cunning! They all go around Moscow without documents. And without documents we can’t judge them. It’s only to establish an identity a month and a half. "

      Why judge and buy tickets? We scored a couple of hundred, “rolled off” our fingers, into a transport plane and to our homeland, and even set an invoice for the flight to the embassy.
  5. Warrawar
    Warrawar 22 May 2013 07: 24 New
    +8
    However, an employee of the Institute of the Institute of Russian History of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Historical Sciences Nikolai Bugai believes that it is better to "create all the conditions in the Caucasus for them to work there, and not go here." The scientist remembered how he himself studied in his time in Kabardino-Balkaria, and everything was calm. But "now the governor of the Krasnodar Territory is not introducing the Cossack patrol out of happiness, but the president is scolding him."

    Instead of scolding, Putin would come to the Caucasus incognito, take the night bus Nalchik - Krasnodar, and then the correct national and migration policy would certainly appear in the country, the historian is sure. This is if Vladimir Putin gets to Krasnodar alive, which no one guarantees.
    http://www.utro.ru/articles/2013/05/21/1120044.shtml
  6. 120352
    120352 22 May 2013 07: 33 New
    17
    Why all these difficulties ?! In Russia, 1 million. 600 thousand unemployed! What other migrants ?! For their work, no, but here visitors. How do they work ?! All buses in the city are driven by them, but how are they driven ?! No skills. They cannot moor to a stop. They drive only in a straight line, they constantly confuse GAZ with BRAKE. And at every step they strive to rob you. Everything that they build will fall apart in 5-7 years.
    Ethnic imbalance is exacerbated. In St. Petersburg, there are already about 30% of them. This is solid crime!
    The Migration Code should consist of one phrase: "DO NOT ALLOW MIGRANTS TO RUSSIA, THOSE WHICH ARRIVED - SEND."
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 22 May 2013 08: 36 New
      +2
      So there is still such a thing as unemployment among migrants. The paradox is that they seem to be going to work here, and they are letting them in here because supposedly there are not enough “working” hands. Only the majority of them are going to work for us, and the devil knows what to do - to get casual jobs, to carry drugs, just to stumble through the streets. And just such an associative lifestyle pushes them to crime.
      So, there is no real need for the import of labor migrants, and if there is no such need, then there is a characteristic and generally no need to import any migrants.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 22 May 2013 12: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: 120352
      For their work, no, but here visitors

      So, after all, one has to PAY NORMALLY NORMALLY, but illegal migrants can be treated like slaves!
      1. potomak8
        potomak8 22 May 2013 22: 59 New
        0
        Mare May Yesht
  7. fenix57
    fenix57 22 May 2013 07: 36 New
    +9
    It would be good for a start to expel ALL migrants (primarily from Central Asia!), Close their entry and .... develop this document for at least 5-7 years.
    After all, it may turn out that in 1,5-2 years there will be no one to enter. Everything is already here!
  8. Rustiger
    Rustiger 22 May 2013 07: 48 New
    0
    It turns out that the Russian treasury acquired from labor immigration, at best, only a quarter of what it could have acquired - and this is only for issuing patents for legal labor activities to foreign nationals arriving in the country.

    Now under my "leadership" 14 people are working as Gaster, two of whom are already in their fifth year. For 5 years, "studied this breed as flaky." I will say that they DO NOT SPEND EARNINGS IN RUSSIA, they even “put on phones” in their “historical” ones (it’s cheaper). And the money is taken there with the help of Yandex Money or Webmani for 8-1%. And you can’t do anything about it! After all, you will not close these streams specifically in the direction of “Central Asia.”
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 22 May 2013 08: 40 New
      +4
      Quote: Rustiger
      Now under my "leadership" 14 people are working as Gaster, two of whom are already in their fifth year. For 5 years, "studied this breed as flaky." I will say that they DO NOT SPEND EARNINGS IN RUSSIA, they even “put on phones” in their “historical” ones (it’s cheaper). And the money is taken there with the help of Yandex Money or Webmani for 8-1%. And you can’t do anything about it! After all, you will not close these streams specifically in the direction of “Central Asia.”

      Another confirmation that they turned Russia and Russians in one place, along with all the "sympathizing" former "fraternal" peoples separated by perestroika!
      1. Airman
        Airman 22 May 2013 09: 09 New
        +7
        [quote = Warrawar] [quote = Rustiger] Now, under my "leadership" there are 14 people who work in Gaster, two of whom are already in their fifth year.
        After living for 5 years, he has the right to citizenship. Now, according to a simplified scheme, "highly qualified" specialists - engineers for mechanically-manual street cleaning, transport logisticians on minibuses, get citizenship. Immediately introduce a visa regime, and after it consider all illegal immigrants as illegally staying on the territory of the Russian Federation, consider them to be spies of foreign states, and send them for 5 years to logging. They should be widely covered in the press and they will run like rats. After that, check the legality of the others obtaining Russian citizenship after 1991. And expel all Chinese from Russia.
        1. gribnik777
          gribnik777 22 May 2013 10: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: Povshnik
          ... send 5 years to felling ...


          Forests need to be revived, not destroyed. And here hard labor in road construction it will be a thousand times more useful to us! hi
          1. Airman
            Airman 22 May 2013 10: 27 New
            +3
            Quote: gribnik777
            Quote: Povshnik
            ... send 5 years to felling ...


            Forests need to be revived, not destroyed. And here hard labor in road construction it will be a thousand times more useful to us! hi

            It is impossible to road construction, it will be impossible to drive on the roads.
            1. bubnew
              bubnew 22 May 2013 21: 50 New
              -1
              Can I go now?
        2. Mairos
          Mairos 22 May 2013 11: 10 New
          +5
          “After living 5 years, he has the right to obtain citizenship” - this is you bent. You must first obtain an SIA, then a residence permit (with a permanent residence permit), live with a view of 5 years and only then apply for citizenship docks. Most gaster stupidly cut loot come, because they do not give a shit about Russia and our customs and standards of living.
    2. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 22 May 2013 10: 00 New
      +1
      here is partly one of the culprits of this case. they work? They work poorly. Poorly. But it is profitable for the rustiger. Our master will ask for more money. Yes and he will not work in bestial conditions. And so these plowers - the tiger puts money in his pocket. to expel migrants. it’s not profitable. yes, and it’s unprofitable for the cops, with whom to collect tribute? Here’s the reason why you won’t cope with it.
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 22 May 2013 11: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: 3 inches.
        here is partly one of the culprits of this case

        Continue, "unnamed opponent"?
        That is, I build them on the roads with cardboard in my hands, which says "800-1000 rubles per day"? I’m making them breed like locusts (one year younger than me, 38 years - 6 !!! childrenthree wives; another 30 years old - 4 !!! children)? “Rustaiger” gave them “sovereignty” and did I also open the border? And their dominance is beneficial only to me as a "performer of works" and not as a customer of services? "Tribute to collect cops" of course I also "invite." As well as "handing out to them at the border of bed bugs and pubic lice" for resettlement on Rasei!
        In addition to 14 Gaster, of which 8 work officially, they receive the same salary as the rest (me too) on the Ak Bars Bank card, another 22 subordinate to them. Of the last 4 mentioned, young women coming to the facility on their own foreign cars (not expensive).
        How can I get our men to come through the entire million-plus city through traffic jams, work 8-10 hours, and go 2 hours back? Or should everyone be provided with their own trolley following the example of a gypsy with their families? How can I explain to them that it would be “more convenient” to wander from object to object, you need to leave your wives and children and live on 2-level shkonks right at the construction site? It is not possible for everyone to “bring work” to where it is more convenient for him.
        Can I also employ you in order to make it easier to understand the specifics of construction work? Nooo. . .? Well, why, you say, "I didn’t study at that." So I graduated 2 navigator / 2 pom. mechanics for the first higher education, and for the second “economist in port”.
        Quote: Povshnik
        After living 5 years, he has the right to citizenship

        Here are two people who are applying for citizenship this year, have earned their money for "odnushki in panels." A month ago, the elder sons were pulled up to themselves. Also work. Although they understand in Russian only through the father-interpreter, or after a high-quality pendell, unlike dads who understand and speak (of course, with a slight accent).
        Maybe this, too, I "forbid" them to study the "great and mighty"? Then I will go to the object in the evening, I will bring them a "governess with knowledge of French." . .
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 22 May 2013 11: 56 New
          +2
          We’ll start with employment. I’ve been at a construction site since I was 17 years old. I’ve been an architectural sculptor by training. And I know all the ins and outs of construction by the hour. And I work 8 hours a day. I also go through traffic jams. I just don’t need intermediaries to whose hands sticks too much. here you are soared from it. you are beneficial for Gaster. not for us and not for the customer. it’s just that you fly by. and then the question arises how you will live. you. higher bureaucrats are cops and other feeding this case.
        2. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 22 May 2013 12: 02 New
          +6
          it’s hard how. In Russian they don’t understand. And why should they hire? Or do you want to tell me that there are no our employees? The next argument is the Russian drunks of idlers and so on. We heard all this. And we saw. That's just a lie. who just covers his little gesheft.
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger 22 May 2013 13: 11 New
            0
            Quote: 3 inches.
            Do you want to tell me that there are no our workers? The next argument is the Russian drunkards lazy people and so on.

            I never said that, and I am not going to categorically state the opposite. Insinuations like yours are also familiar to me.
            Your main misconception is that you do not distinguish between the level of organization of organizations. We are not the company that is engaged in the construction of skyscrapers and huge residential complexes. Although there is an own office with bookkeeping, some necessary machinery and equipment, even a “part-time worker” ... but our sector is the construction of PRIVATE houses and the repair of houses, apartments and institutions. We rarely deal with STATE CAPITAL, mainly with PRIVATE. And for the family / owner of the future home, it makes no difference with whose hands the work will be done. You can hire Turks / Germans / Americans for this, but with their salary requests, you will have to not only give everything away but also "go around the world with a bag." As already said, the "gate is open" absolutely for EVERYONE. Someone comes for the season, many remain and not one. Almost everyone (even taji) receives money through accounting. And the "unaccounted for" in fact are the "helpers" of the first. Here it doesn’t matter to me how many people will do the work, which is paid at a price for the volume of work done. Regardless of citizenship and nationality!
            I repeat. We do not contact the state. means. Enough last year, when the company invested money in the overhaul of an apartment building. Money did not come to our accounts from the budget. The accountant ran around the banks for three weeks in search of a profitable loan. Found it. The salary was paid to the hired workers to avoid legal claims on their part), they paid for the material, and they themselves (management and permanent staff) did not see money from September to January, and then half a year (until the next season) to pay interest on the loan. A lot then "PRILIPLO" ???
            Your hints of "intermediaries," I understand. Therefore, these "do not hold." I myself am responsible for the initial preparation of estimates for the material, and for the supply, and for the staff, and for checking the quality of the work performed (except for accounting). And the overalls in the car are the same in which the Gaster flaunts. Together with a thermos, an air mattress and a blanket.
            Quote: 3 inches.
            the question arises: how will you live? you. above you bureaucrats cops and other feeding on this matter.

            What is this about? Could it be about last year’s case when, after calling the boss about the Gosstroynadzor’s inspection of the object, I drove a brand new Honda across the field and skidded over to check if everyone had helmets on their Bosko, if the Tajiks were clueless about our sun. Do they have paint cans next to electric "tiles"? But if he didn’t have time, then the bureaucrats would “feed” on the “dangerous situation with migrants”.
            In short, something you have perverted concepts about who exactly is "profitable" situevina with Asians.
            1. 3 inches.
              3 inches. 22 May 2013 14: 04 New
              +1
              you again inattentively read what I wrote to you. I do not work on the construction of large houses. My niche is the same as yours. Finishing apartments and cottages. I do not communicate with government agencies for the same reason as yours. And if you tell me that the salaries of Tajiks and Russians are the same, I think half of the site will laugh with me. your Honda race once again demonstrates the correctness of my thoughts about the illiteracy of staff. It is unlikely that a normal worker will leave paint next to the electric stove. And far from the owners who care about building their house. Everyone understands the difference in work between the guest and the locals. In short, it sounds like this we work here. and they receive money. And what jambs pop up a year or two after the delivery, I think you know. And most importantly, you do not see the main postulate at all points — there will be demand and supply. There is demand for a working dumb cattle — there will be Gaster.
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    3. potomak8
      potomak8 22 May 2013 23: 05 New
      -1
      some advanced mountaineers you have
  9. Stas
    Stas 22 May 2013 08: 08 New
    +5
    We need very strong legislation regarding guest performers. The fewer they will be in our country, the better it will be for ordinary citizens (there will be less work and less crime). Only bribe-takers and rich Pinocchio earn on touring. Maskvabad, Novosykobad, etc. - these are the realities of our time. To drive these guest performers home, they are not needed here !!!
  10. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 May 2013 08: 23 New
    10
    Even the 10,5 million they are talking about is very understated. The trouble is that it is necessary to fight not only with migrants from "countries of the former USSR", and other countries. It is necessary to destroy the enclaves of the same "inhabitants of the Caucasian region," who breed like flies throughout the country. It is they who are basically the "criminal element". But the situation is such that the police protect them. They attacked a guy with a girl, beat up - maximum "hooliganism" and a fine. And if the guy was able to repel the attack - inflaming ethnic hatred is soldered. Drive them all home.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 31 New
      +3
      I read statistics half a year ago - about 10 million. This is only in Moscow.
    2. Airman
      Airman 22 May 2013 13: 46 New
      0
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Even the 10,5 million they are talking about is very understated. The trouble is that it is necessary to fight not only with migrants from "countries of the former USSR", and other countries. It is necessary to destroy the enclaves of the same "inhabitants of the Caucasian region," who breed like flies throughout the country. It is they who are basically the "criminal element". But the situation is such that the police protect them. They attacked a guy with a girl, beat up - maximum "hooliganism" and a fine. And if the guy was able to repel the attack - inflaming ethnic hatred is soldered. Drive them all home.

      But how do prostitutes from Africa and other regions get to us illegally? Where the FSB and their subordinate border troops look, there is no land border with Africa and you won’t be able to walk.
  11. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 22 May 2013 08: 30 New
    +8
    About the janitors, the prime minister blurted out in vain. I have a friend, so when he came to Moscow to work, he got a job as a janitor right away on the 2 site and he was given “odnushka” and not bad money (1999 year) for that time. But after half a year he was asked. In ZHEK, they cleverly thought up: one works on paper, it seems that he’s working out his experience, and an Uzbek plows for him for a penny, lives in the basement, and you can rent out an apartment. Everyone is fine except my friend.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 35 New
      +2
      There are snowdrops in many departments now. Therefore, they work if there are 30 people in the state of 15 people. My wife recently found out that a couple of months ago her fired boss received part-time payment from all employees if they went on vacation or on sick leave. Office in the Ministry of Defense. Although the woodpecker was obviously not taken for these pennies. But the woodpecker didn’t really lose anything, he switched to municipal service away from federal property.
  12. Nayhas
    Nayhas 22 May 2013 08: 35 New
    +2
    "Representatives of the State Duma say that we have hundreds of separate documents that to one degree or another relate to the migration situation in the country, but these documents often contradict each other." - when you read this, you just can’t laugh anymore. This is a sign of a complete mess. Most importantly, the State Duma does not even consider the ban on the use of labor of migrants. After all, migrants not only evade taxes, commit crimes, etc. Most importantly, they drop the salary level, contribute to their unpretentiousness of employers to violate the Labor Code and all kinds of labor safety standards. Deputies are not affected by the issue of unemployment, crime, drug addiction and alcoholism, millions of able-bodied Russians are drinking, chipping, sitting in places of detention. Those. deputies actually protect the interests of alcohol producers and drug dealers, and since all the same, working hands are needed, then "Welcome guest worker!" Here you also need to understand that Central Asia has practically chosen its migration resource, not so many live there. In the same Tajikistan, the population does not reach 8 million, while in Kyrgyzstan there are not even 6 million. Where are the deputies going to find 25 million migrants? Only one country bordering Russia has such resources, it is China. The government has long been repeating the need to develop the Far East, they are even creating a state corporation for this, they are going to "invest" huge amounts of money. Whose forces will these funds be mastered? The population of the Far East is extremely small and there are frankly no workers, so it will be Chinese workers and Chinese companies. WE ARE SUSTAINABLE SUCCESSFUL THAT TWO WILL BECOME CHINESE ...
    1. Warrawar
      Warrawar 22 May 2013 08: 49 New
      +3
      The population can be replenished solely due to their own birth rate - the rest is from the evil one!
  13. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 22 May 2013 08: 46 New
    +6
    How so, we have not enough workers? Against the backdrop of general degradation in the country, we have a bunch of free hands to do crazy work! We do not need these stupid migrants, we need an article like in the Union, for parasitism, there is no education, there is no desire to study, you thump, please go janitor, and you can take revenge on the streets drunk, and you will get money for it! As for internal migration, to issue a decree that, due to the increased prestige of the capital of a Slavic country, to prohibit non-Slavic people from working in Moscow, an example is the Kremlin regiment, in which only the Slavs serve, thereby personifying all the indigenous people of the country, by the way, something I have not heard of lawsuits about discrimination against other nations, due to the fact that they are not allowed to serve there!
  14. matross
    matross 22 May 2013 08: 52 New
    +1
    ... becomes the reason for the unregulated entry and exit of foreign citizens in Russia (from Russia), the movement of the Russians themselves in their own country. [/ quote]
    It is interesting that the author completely did not pay attention to the second part of the regulation on the movements of citizens - the movements of Russians around their country. And this is no less interesting and important. What is the Duma coming up with? Is it time to return the registration? At least for some regions.
    1. sams
      sams 22 May 2013 10: 40 New
      +2
      Registration is registration.
      It’s just that, as always, in such an original way (name change), we decided to hide the inconsistency of some administrative law norms and the requirements of the Constitution.
      1. QWERTY
        QWERTY 22 May 2013 20: 27 New
        -1
        For example, there is a law in force in Moscow and St. Petersburg that a citizen of the Russian Federation does not have the right to stay in these cities for more than 3 months without registering in these cities, sorry for the tautology. And this is also a good feeder for police officers. Apparently Russians from other cities dumping in the labor market?
  15. fenix57
    fenix57 22 May 2013 08: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: GreatRussia
    criminal liability for illegal immigrants for repeated violation of the visa regime

    If a foreign citizen is forcibly expelled from Russia, he is included in the list of persons to whom entry into the territory of Russia is closed.
  16. Begemot
    Begemot 22 May 2013 08: 57 New
    +4
    No need to be naive. A lot of officials feed from migration flows, the police feed, businessmen save heaps of money on taxes and salaries, until then there is financial interest for all participants in the process - no repressive measures will work, the process will go into the shadows. There is no simple solution to this problem.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 09: 56 New
      0
      Exactly! And these people will do everything to ensure that this code is not adopted, and if it is adopted, it will somehow be drawback ... There is a lot of money in this "field of activity". And who wants to lose money?
    2. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 22 May 2013 10: 15 New
      +3
      here is the main problem of migrants and that a lot of people feed at the expense of them. here we have to fight with them first of all. I watched a picture - a large shopping center was under construction. So a raid was organized every 2 months. Moreover, centrally. With riot police and buses. It turned out that everything was simple - the construction management agreed with the cops and how they approached the salary day they arranged a raid. And all is well. The money management cops also have money plus reporting. And Tajiks will be recruited.
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 21 New
        +1
        3 inchin short, all the fucking corruption. And how you fight it, you know better than me ...
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 22 May 2013 10: 24 New
          0
          Well, how do they create yet another organs. And yet. Someday they probably will gobble up and burst.
  17. Strashila
    Strashila 22 May 2013 09: 06 New
    +2
    Migrants and akin to drug addicts ... feed a bunch of domestic bureaucratic scum.
  18. Mr.M
    Mr.M 22 May 2013 09: 18 New
    +4
    This topic is neither positive nor negative. This is just our life.


    Read between the lines - we don’t need to do anything and we won’t.

    Firstly, we live in an open country, when people come and go. Secondly, we live in conditions of complex demography, when we need additional working hands. It is unlikely that Russia in the coming years and decades will be able to completely refuse the services of visitors. Because we ourselves no longer want to work. For example, janitors. Incidentally, I swept the streets as a student.


    Whatever the statement is the transfusion from empty to empty.
    It would be better if we had an extra qualified janitor than the dubious prime minister.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 15 New
      0
      Read between the lines and never do anything.
  19. Airman
    Airman 22 May 2013 09: 24 New
    +3
    It’s just that the leadership of the Russian Federation has no political will to put things in order in the country, but it’s impossible to go against the oligarchs. Here they pull the rubber, hoping for a chance. And the discontent in the country is growing and could result in spontaneous actions against migrants.
    1. Manager
      Manager 22 May 2013 09: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Povshnik
      It’s just that the leadership of the Russian Federation has no political will

      Apparently, there is no desire.
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 09 New
      0
      And there is power, and there is a will - but there is no willpower ...
  20. Onotollah
    Onotollah 22 May 2013 09: 36 New
    +3
    Despite the fact that the majority of Russians have a well-established attitude towards those who have come in large numbers:

    Those keep coming, coming and coming.
    This suggests that someone is feeding from this, and very well.
  21. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 22 May 2013 09: 41 New
    +5
    Medvedev, as always, has “bright” thoughts ... What to do is hard to live in the virtual space of Twitter and other iPhones)). He would try now to get a janitor in any housing office, I would see how it would work out for him.
    Excuse me, people, if I seem harsh, but, in my opinion, no new Code will help here. Migrants need to be treated differently (they are caught, “tagged”, and sent to their homeland so that they later either run away or return), but they need to act much tougher ... No, I am against murders, honestly, this is not what need to kill. However, I believe that the Russian Federation should take migrants in a vise. How? But look: we catch migrants, compose something like a personal matter (and it’s better not to compose anything at all), and we send them to especially useful work. For example, in Yakutia, where previously, through the very first wave, to build labor camps .... Yes, I am not a fascist !!!! Damn, that's not necessary)). You think there is nothing to build in Yakutia, Chukotka or the Magadan region (for example, roads, including railways), so look how the Tiksi port has worn out, and this is one of the centers of the North Sea. the way. Or the construction of some other objects.
    But not condemning migrants to death from hunger and cold. In no case! Do you think I collapsed from oak? Maybe I do not deny it. But under the USSR, people went to work in those regions, and now you won’t lure anyone there. And so - free (almost) labor. 2 years of such a labor camp for violating Russian migration laws in the winter in the northern Russian regions.
    I am sure that such a measure will affect visitors more than a mountain of regular pieces of paper called Federal Laws or Codes.
    1. Buran
      Buran 22 May 2013 10: 09 New
      +4
      I wouldn’t fix it much, an illegal should work out his ticket back to his homeland, as well as the work of the FMS, police, and judicial authorities. Since today all shipments are at the expense of taxpayers, that is, us. Enter bonus, both for the capture and for the service of each illegal. The question will be solved literally in a matter of days, because in our law enforcement and judicial bodies only "loot defeats evil."
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 13 New
      0
      Well, my friend, can you imagine what hi-wai the “human rights activists” will raise?
      1. Buran
        Buran 22 May 2013 10: 30 New
        +2
        Sometimes you have to close your ears wink You look at them there, they’re lapping something and you substitute your own words. So it turns out that they completely agree tongue
        1. 3 inches.
          3 inches. 22 May 2013 10: 31 New
          +1
          better mouths ..
      2. Andrey from Tver
        Andrey from Tver 22 May 2013 10: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: UzRus
        hi-wai will raise "human rights defenders"?

        Such human rights defenders, along with their clients, are also out of the country.
        1. UzRus
          UzRus 22 May 2013 11: 01 New
          0
          Then for these "human rights defenders" will stand up other "human rights defenders" from behind the hill.
      3. zvereok
        zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 50 New
        +4
        AK what does Hi-Wai mean? Migrant violated the law while in my country !, therefore, a criminal, and in Democratic America there is a whole business of head hunters. No, if Migrant is fine with documents, then there will be no special complaints against him. Such won already begin to defend their rights (Janitors in St. Petersburg).
    3. Airman
      Airman 22 May 2013 10: 45 New
      +3
      As soon as messages are sent to the OBS telegraph agency that they are being tried and sent to labor camps for free to work, they themselves will immediately run away, no one will want to work for 2 to 5 years for free, and money will not be needed to expel them. .
  22. avt
    avt 22 May 2013 10: 14 New
    +5
    Another stillborn piece of paper to justify their own need and release steam. If there was a will and desire, they would put things in order in a month, there are enough laws for the eyes. negative
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 10: 23 New
      0
      Yeah, the corresponding lobbyists will do a good job.
    2. mansur
      mansur 22 May 2013 10: 36 New
      0
      Quote: avt
      Another stillborn piece of paper to justify their own need and release steam. If there was a will and desire, they would put things in order in a month, there are enough laws for the eyes.

      As the hero of one movie says, I honestly don’t remember the name
      ,, It seems that there is power, there is a will, but there is no will power,
    3. Airman
      Airman 22 May 2013 11: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: avt
      Another stillborn piece of paper to justify their own need and release steam. If there was a will and desire, they would put things in order in a month, there are enough laws for the eyes. negative

      Yes, there is neither one nor the other. The chief sanitary doctor asked to cancel the Dushanbe-Moscow train, but the country's leadership refused. How is this to cancel the heroin train? The drug mafia will howl. The other day, 80 kg was discovered, but how much is not? Introduce a visa regime? NOT BEFORE 2015.
  23. JonnyT
    JonnyT 22 May 2013 10: 16 New
    +1
    Children must be born and brought up smart and strong, then there will be no illegal immigrants!
  24. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 22 May 2013 10: 26 New
    +2
    This whole situation is a big sweet cake. Bake, put on the table. Fly flies, try to drive away. Also, their larvae were postponed.
  25. pinecone
    pinecone 22 May 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    There is a desire to further simplify the legalization procedure, thereby increasing the influx of foreigners into the Russian Federation.
    The introduction of the visa regime does not even stutter. Bastards.
  26. UFO
    UFO 22 May 2013 10: 59 New
    +2
    The adoption of this document must begin with bringing the situation to its original state, i.e. with the expulsion of ALL migrants! Including - already bought the citizenship! It is possible with officials selling their homeland for the sake of momentary profit for their beloved! am
  27. zvereok
    zvereok 22 May 2013 11: 02 New
    +2
    After all, it’s much easier to raise the salary of the same janitor with a Russian passport,
    The wages of janitors in the Moscow Region are quite good, if you take a few yards, as migrants do now, it’s not bad. But part of this salary goes into the pocket of the leaders and they do not want to take the Russians, whom this state of affairs will confuse.
  28. Opera
    Opera 22 May 2013 11: 21 New
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    Quote: zvereok
    But part of this salary goes into the pocket of leaders and they do not want to take the Russians, who will be confused by this state of affairs.

    Here! Here for such a pretzel on the part of all kinds of leaders, starting with the wreckers, there should be strict responsibility! No need to say that the locals will not go to such a job! They will even go in Moscow and in St. Petersburg. This issue concerns not only janitors, but also household, auxiliary workers in various state organizations and institutions. Now a lot of different firms are feeding from this, around which a crowd of criminal figures rushing around stamping all kinds of permissions and registrations! I don’t even speak about construction companies and taxi drivers! All this is a matter of anti-corruption policy. With the right decisions and the personnel issue in the power structures, this issue is not so difficult to solve.
  29. pot-bellied
    pot-bellied 22 May 2013 11: 39 New
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    migrants are alien and indifferent to the interests of the country, its culture and fate. For them, Russia is only a territory of earnings. A migrant builds houses, destroying the country.
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      3 inches. 22 May 2013 12: 04 New
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      and this is so. but the main law is there is a demand and a proposal. It is necessary to fight the cause and not the consequence. The main reason is to profit from them. Here are those who profit from those and evil.
  30. Airman
    Airman 22 May 2013 12: 12 New
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    Yes, if all, absolutely all migrants are expelled from the Russian Federation, even those who received permanent residence after 1991, then the countries of Central Asia will have revolutions and they will not need sovereignty. If you die of hunger, you will not become free. And at once everyone will want to join the CIS.
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      Unfortunately, this will provoke many problems. Our government is not ready for such things. Voluntarily they will not go. And it can end badly.
  31. Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 22 May 2013 13: 54 New
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    The author is right and well done !!!
    All respected commentators are also mostly right ....
    But none of you has advanced beyond demagogy and boltology.
    Most of you are sitting and waiting for an uncle or aunt to come and do everything ....
    You expect that the problem will be solved by itself and your participation here is not required ...
    Who of you has done for the good of yourself, your porch or home, your yard, district or city. I'm not talking about the country ....
    You are all bold and decisive at computers and impersonal at nicknames ....
    But, which of you demanded a report from the deputies you elected - or didn’t you vote?
    Who demanded the fulfillment of obligations from the Housing and Utilities Services and an explanation of the employment of illegal immigrants, failure to perform services, as well as reporting on the expenditure of funds paid by you?
    Who appealed to the head of the district or city in an open form and demanding to give an open (via TV or radio) explanation and account for the work done, the obligations undertaken and the instructions given by the people, explain the situation with the migrants and demand the return of jobs to the indigenous population?
    Who dared to form on behalf of the majority of the Russian people a request for a "clever" premiere, coordinate the request and collect the signatures of the people, and then ask the popularly elected president - is the prime minister right, and if not right, then the country needs it with the ministers like him ?
    The President of Russia, unfortunately, is still in the minority and it is difficult for him to get the country out of shit without a strong team of like-minded people and aides ....
    So you can go on and on.
    Compatriots! Indeed, to a greater extent, in that situation and the outrages that take place where you live, you yourself are to blame! They are guilty because of their simple unwillingness to participate in life, in silence, in indifference, in the unwillingness to see, react or stop this disgrace, whatever form it may be, but simply sometimes in disrespect for each other. And you begin to be indignant when the thunder struck ....?
    Try to correct this situation by your respectable participation in the life of the country, and not by watching stupid programs in a TV box. Yes, life is not easy now, but help the president yourself, and life will begin to improve for the better faster.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 22 May 2013 14: 40 New
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      Well, in principle, everything is correctly said. Let's delegate from the site!
    2. Buran
      Buran 22 May 2013 15: 09 New
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      Rounding off everyone and taking the pose of Cicero is also a win-win position. Here is a discussion of the article and a discussion of opinions. And those who express their opinion even in this form already have their personal civic position, which they will undoubtedly express at the first opportunity.
    3. Airman
      Airman 22 May 2013 17: 53 New
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      The President of Russia, unfortunately, is still in the minority and it is difficult for him to get the country out of shit without a strong team of like-minded people and aides ....
      So you can go on and on.

      Try to correct this situation by your respectable participation in the life of the country, and not by watching stupid programs in a TV box. Yes, life is not easy now, but help the president yourself, and life will begin to improve for the better faster. [/ Quote]
      And who interfered with the president when he was the prime minister to “get the country out of shit?” Yes, and the last two presidential terms, he thought little of ordinary people, all his thoughts and deeds were concern for the oligarchs and the elite, to which he himself belongs. ALL my friends they didn’t vote for him, political technologies made him president, but it’s worthless to such a president if his decrees and orders are not followed. And he doesn’t surrender his people (for example, Serdyukov) - ONE TEAM. When Serdyukov SIT, respect for the president will appear. and others like him) SHOULD SIT IN PRISON.
  32. mushtuc
    mushtuc 22 May 2013 14: 42 New
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    Everyone already understands that it is necessary to introduce a visa regime, but they are pulling with it. A good offer from Kozlov is to collect money for return tickets from migrants upon entering Russia.
  33. RUkola
    RUkola 22 May 2013 16: 43 New
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    Yes, all this is a fucking thing, it is necessary to punish the employer, well, it’s not the Tajiks, Uzbeks, who hire themselves, but the Russians themselves. It seems that there are such laws, but they are completely ignored, the peace service does nothing, and maybe even vice versa. After all, an interesting trend is being seen
    As soon as the migration service was formed, the rampant migrants fell upon the country, there wasn’t such a thing before when the police dealt with it
    As soon as drug control was set up, the drug rampant hit the country immediately, there wasn’t such a ragger when the police dealt with
    It is suspected that these services are not specifically contributing to these processes in order to increase their numbers, funding, etc.
    1. Mhpv
      Mhpv 22 May 2013 17: 29 New
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      Have you seen the cops in new uniforms? From afar, I thought the security of the shopping centers hired the metro to guard until I saw closer the inscription "Police" -BIGGLESS!
  34. Mhpv
    Mhpv 22 May 2013 16: 56 New
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    The largest companies in Russia are not averse to indulging in migrants. I already wrote that in the Moscow metro, which is not only an object of public transport, but also cultural and historical value, but also an important and strategically important object, instead of the traditionally cleaning and on-duty grandparents (pensioners) migrants appear. At the stations adjacent to the stations, they simply already live in the metro. Have the terrorist attacks in the metro carried out in the recent past really taught nothing to our authorities. When they finally choke on their money or the time will come and again they will go to Kolyma with a jigsaw to cut down the forest and their families will be relocated to Siberia with confiscation. This is just an isolated example.
    It’s time to admit that migrants parasitize on us. They live at our expense (they do not pay taxes, housing and communal services, or travel), give birth and are treated in our clinics, teach children in schools and take up places in kindergartens without citizenship and continue to educate at home the laws of the diaspora, they dampen the labor market because of them they don’t even index their salaries, their speech is increasingly heard, their music (oriental motives) and fashion are being imposed on us. At every corner we are offered samsa or pita bread and the like or hamburgers and have disappeared long ago. " dining room "," dumplings "and also" wineglass "but There is a cafe "At Ravshan".
  35. 3 inches.
    3 inches. 22 May 2013 17: 04 New
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    There is such a hypothesis. Any system was considered as a living organism. Survival is important for any organism in the first place. That is, nutrition and reproduction. As an example, Italy was cited where there is no drug control and its functions are added to the carabinieri. The highest percentage of drugs in Europe is withdrawn.
  36. vkusniikorj
    vkusniikorj 22 May 2013 17: 28 New
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    I'm sure everyone will like it!
    The USA has a territory three times smaller than Russia!
    three times as many populations!
    people go to them, swim, crawl, river!
    millions of Chinese, Latinos, thousands of Russians, Ukrainians and other peoples work, study and serve.
    in the end, the most powerful economy, army, science!
    Russia, by hook or by crook, rejects Russians in the "near abroad", Russian fascists in every possible way call names of visitors (not from a good life) of their compatriots (Gaster, chock, Moldovan, rodents), well, you know more than mine, but your grandfathers ate from one pot in the war, they smoked one cigarette for everyone,
    and in the end?
    the economy is barely breathing, the army is practically gone, you yourself know the science in the deep .... e.
    DO YOU FEEL YOURSELF BY EASY HEROES? Look at yourself carefully in the mirror !!!
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      3 inches. 22 May 2013 17: 34 New
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      dear, all this didn’t go from Russian. but after the Russians began to expel all these fraternal peoples. and from the side of the people, not one of us was denied from there. From the side of the bureaucrats, yes, so we ourselves are protected from them.
    2. Mhpv
      Mhpv 22 May 2013 17: 34 New
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      To begin with, look at yourself how you feel about the Russian, Russian and Russian languages. Who else has the economy can barely breathe, there is no army, science is deep ..... do you speak. The mirror in front of you, look.
      1. vkusniikorj
        vkusniikorj 22 May 2013 18: 53 New
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        pricks, pricks really eyes!
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          3 inches. 22 May 2013 18: 56 New
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          ridiculous. comment from a country in which there is neither science nor the army and even more so the economy at the level of exchange in kind. dear, what money do you use?
          1. vkusniikorj
            vkusniikorj 22 May 2013 21: 13 New
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            simple you. foolbut it’s understandable. post-perestroika children! it’s difficult to understand that Russians still live in Moldova. whatthe fact that in Moldova there is no economy, army and science, I agree funny, but the fact that this is not in Russia is sad crying
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              3 inches. 23 May 2013 02: 21 New
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              Thank you for sharply rejuvenating me.
        2. Mhpv
          Mhpv 22 May 2013 21: 04 New
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          Your idle talk does not fall under the definition of “true.” We see our problems without you, but you better keep quiet and deal with the problems of Moldova, you will be serving Romanians for an hour, they will grind your teeth for a long time, no one in the west will forgive Moldova The Soviet past, you are needed there in the west, like pugs yapping at an elephant.
    3. Ivanovich47
      Ivanovich47 22 May 2013 19: 48 New
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      Russia does not disown its compatriots in the CIS countries. An urgent law is currently being drafted to simplify the procedure for granting Russian citizenship to all Russians living in the CIS. At the same time, they will take measures so that people like you cannot leave your impoverished countries for millions and flood Russia! Greetings hi
  37. Frunze
    Frunze 22 May 2013 19: 38 New
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    Quote: 3 inches.
    .and far from the owners do not care who built the house for them. Everyone understands the difference in the work between the guest and the locals. Briefly, it sounds like this, we work here. And they get the money. And what jambs pop up a year or two after the delivery, I think you know. and most importantly, you point blank do not see the main postulate - there will be demand and supply. There is a demand for a working dumb cattle - there will be Gaster.

    I absolutely agree with you, I’ve been a heat technician at construction sites for 13 years making smart home systems and simpler at the request of the owner. Gaster-Central Asia appears only where it wants to make good money, there are no other reasons, they don’t need to dig above our construction sites .And we know new tales in the old manner, the senior Gaster, through the accounting department and the brigade, we came to help the fellow countryman. It is a pity only the materials and the customer owners, right after a year and a half, they will understand which palace they drove into and the contract already bribes are smooth. Yes, I make good money on system crashes and boiler room modifications after pseudo-Moscow firms, but as a pro. nasty some systems cannot be fixed. I have ten houses for maintenance at my place (I did it with a team), I play billiards with the owners, one recently became the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation. Before my eyes, our finishers, roofers, and bricklayers were squeezed out of the construction site, plasterers, we are the masters of the Moscow region are able and love to work but do not want, and do not have the opportunity (it is necessary to teach children, heals parents) so that at our expense they do not spare the new Honda in the fields and copses !!! hi
    1. 3 inches.
      3 inches. 22 May 2013 20: 49 New
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      but the rustiger does not believe in it.
    2. vkusniikorj
      vkusniikorj 22 May 2013 21: 39 New
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      finishers, roofers, masons, plasterers, we are craftsmen of the Moscow Region who know how and love to work, but we don’t want and don’t have the opportunity (we need to teach our children, we need to treat our parents) so that we don’t spare the new Honda in the fields and copses !!! hi

      Who taught you the Russian language? Roofers, there is no such name for the profession. Read a couple of times before posting the text, if it’s really Russian, you will understand where you made a mistake.
      1. Frunze
        Frunze 22 May 2013 22: 33 New
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        This word is the professional slang of the builders of the Moscow Region, and I left it on the text specially (therefore you are my dear teacher, I found one mistake in the whole text), our peasant specialists will understand that I’m not my own and that someone will surely fall for it, now I know who, is you my dear Moldavian Friend!
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        3 inches. 23 May 2013 02: 13 New
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        didn’t you tell us what currency is in use in Moldova? Romanian leu is for rent. You can immediately see an independent state.
  38. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 22 May 2013 19: 43 New
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    The position and attitude towards illegal migration of the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation is surprising. We see how the suburbs are flooded with representatives of Central Asia. Behave impudently, as owners. Not far away is the time when there will be more immigrants from Uzbekistan and Tajikistan than Russians in this region. Therefore, an urgent legislative framework should be developed that will regulate this issue.
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      3 inches. 22 May 2013 20: 51 New
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      Unfortunately it’s not surprising. We don’t have a spare country. And they have
  39. lobik
    lobik 22 May 2013 22: 21 New
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    Nothing can be done before 2015, the partners simply do not have time to print a passport. Damn, why the degenerate Oland fulfills his pre-pledge promises, and ours does not even promise anything.
  40. ando_bor
    ando_bor 22 May 2013 22: 29 New
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    The issue is not the laws but their implementation,
    according to today's laws, 90% of migrants can be deported.
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  42. Siberiak
    Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 48 New
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    All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
  43. Siberiak
    Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 51 New
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    For some reason, the system does not miss a comment. But he expressed doubt that really adequate measures would be taken!
  44. Siberiak
    Siberiak 22 May 2013 23: 52 New
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    All this is good ... I'm afraid, however, that the visa regime will be introduced not from Asian, but from Slavic states now ... and then it turns out that they wanted the best, but you can’t please the people ...
  45. Yuri
    Yuri 23 May 2013 23: 51 New
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    hello dear. Greetings from Ukraine To mine, the Russian Federation has had a problem of migrants for a long time. The Union of Ukraine of Belarus and Russia is possible only when the Russians have their own state or power, you have enough intelligence and the federation is doomed to internecine strife, the Slavs live in Ukraine RUSSIAN UKRAINIANS BELARUSIANS and not only everything is normal among the people And as for the language, I can’t assemble the frame Father-Batko Eyes-Ochi Border-Cordon of the city of MIT and SchI evo name whence the question for you Doctor-Healer Krug-Kolo doesn’t remember anything? Kolo side. Round sides or is it nonsense and the degeneration of the tongue in surzhik? Only someone. And so on. There is no life of joy in Russia for the Russian brothers. As long as Ukraine is separate from Putin, there is hope to preserve at least some borders of the Slavic’s great inheritance in our territory. For now, fear is in the eyes of the future. I apologize for illiteracy.
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      3 inches. 24 May 2013 10: 52 New
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      respected couldn’t explain the text. I admit I didn’t understand the meaning. that the Slavs live in Ukraine is understandable to everyone. except Svidomo. but this is to psychiatrists. and where does Putin at least kill it is unclear.