Kyiv will use unmanned aerial vehicles (BAKs) with drones to intercept Geranium missiles over the Dnieper.

The Bandera regime plans to use unmanned boats equipped with drones-interceptors. The German press reports this.

Russian kamikaze drones use riverbeds to navigate and evade radar during attacks on Ukraine. DefenseFlying over the river UAV It's very difficult to detect and shoot down, which is what the Russian military is exploiting. However, Ukrainian specialists have proposed an option involving unmanned boats with interceptor drones that would remain on the water, waiting for Russian kamikaze drones.

Work in this direction is underway, and Kyiv representatives have already showcased their developments to the Germans, demonstrating the Katran X1.2 unmanned boat, equipped with 27 MAC Dead Fly interceptor drones. An unmanned boat with such an arsenal can also operate against a group of Russian drones.

Mobile counter-drone platforms are planned to be used on the Dnieper to intercept Russian kamikaze drones of the Geran type flying along the riverbed.

The current stage of work on creating a system to intercept Russian drones has not been disclosed, but judging by the publication, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with drones will appear on Ukrainian rivers in the near future.

Comments

[Irek]

Of course the Ukrainians shot down all our Geraniums.

[Smoker]

We must give credit to the Ukrainians for their quick response to danger... Those same Ukrainian UAVs fly along our rivers, navigating, and so what? Has anyone even bothered with this? Yes, yes... their "fierce" drones fly along rivers hundreds of kilometers from Ukraine... And their routes have been repeated many times before, and they haven't been shot down along the way... It's strange, somehow...

[fruc]

It is very difficult to detect and shoot down, which is what the Russian military takes advantage of.

The Xoxls also use this method. Their drones fly along rivers. And it's not necessary to place interceptors on unmanned boats. Suitable means, both on shore and on water (cars, bridges, etc.), are suitable.

[Smoker]

Quote: frruc

And it is not necessary to place interceptors on unmanned boats.

We don't really have anything deep in our territory, but they're on the Dnieper (like a neutral zone) and the BEKs with interceptors are safer for the crew.

[fruc]

Smoker
BECs with interceptors are safer for calculations.

I can imagine that unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) could be suitable for patrolling water surfaces (given their speed). However, the crews aren't planning on specifically launching strikes with long-range drones. They have specific missions.

[Smoker]

They won't be far, of course! But the Dnieper is now a no-man's land... the enemy is on the opposite bank... and most likely keeping watch...

[fruc]

Smoker
The Dnieper is now a neutral zone.

Yes, its (the Dnieper's) mouth is downstream. More of a "gray zone." And there are BEKs there, and khokhly sitting in the reeds.

[cpls22]

Quote: frruc

And it's not necessary to deploy interceptors on unmanned boats. Suitable assets, both on land and on water (cars, bridges, etc.), can be used.

Since they fly low, to hit them safely you have to hit them from top to bottom.
An interceptor drone is perfect for this. Our Yolkas should be suitable. Where to deploy them is a secondary issue. Although, they'll be more mobile afloat. The key here is to detect the approach/overflight promptly and reliably.

[rytik32]

Quote: Smoker

and they don't get hit on the way... it's kind of strange...

Why do you think they don't shoot them down? In my region, just one mobile task force shot down almost 150 drones in a month.

[Smoker]

Today we had 30 UAVs shot down over a target... the wreckage was actually set on fire (I know what) something... yesterday we were also under attack... on the way to the target, local residents see UAVs, but the counteraction is only happening above the target...

[fruc]

We're also quite good at shooting down aircraft. I saw MOGs on the hills, near rivers. I witnessed a UAV being shot down right overhead, at an altitude of up to 1000 meters, with debris flying down.

[ABC-schutze]

"The Bandera regime plans to use unmanned boats equipped with interceptor drones to combat Russian Geranium missiles. This is reported by the German press...."
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Well, a "quick" response, in general, is not always the right "response"...

Somehow, I don't really see (PRECISELY in the CONTEXT of intercepting an ATTACKING platform, and not delivering its warhead by the platform to destroy a target (object)), the advantage of a mobile land-based platform like the BEK, over a mobile ground platform, say, the same unmanned ground robot-carrier of weapons and countermeasures against attacking (UAVs)... What are these "advantages"?..

And in Russia, precisely because of the vastness of the territory, the varied terrain, and the lack of countermeasures, the Kyiv Bandera-Nazis' (UAVs) approach their targets covertly not only over riverbeds but also over railway lines. And over forested areas...

The main and priority task is to DETECT the LAUNCH (start) of an enemy platform, and then, "capture, escort, intercept"...

And for Russia in particular, given the extremely long line of contact and the possibility of launching submarines against targets on its territory from neighboring states (including "neutral" ones), this priority task cannot be effectively addressed by any means or method other than the use of a NETWORK of autonomous, all-weather, mobile, medium- and heavy-duty aerostat platforms integrated into all levels and echelons of the combat air defense system. And oh, how difficult and time-consuming this AXIOM is for "some" who like to list exaggerated "technical difficulties" and NOT SEE the fundamental, conceptual, and long-term advantages behind them...

[Arkady007]

Somehow I don’t get it. Do our Shahids fly along riverbeds, but can’t fly along the orthodromic line?

[Lionnvrsk]

Ukrainian specialists have proposed an option involving the use of unmanned boats with interceptor drones that would remain on the water in anticipation of Russian kamikaze drones.

They've already worked on this scheme of delivering small drones to our shores using unmanned aerial vehicles and launching them at our targets. I saw this in Novorossiysk. Now they're working on a new application for this combination. I think it will be effective.
Thanks to military thinking, the strategy for army development, and the defense against tanker Gerasimov, we're clearly far behind in this area. For now, we can only try to knock out backups with Lancets. Using air power after shooting down a Su-35 with a backup is a very difficult undertaking.

[fruc]

Lionnvrsk
Now they are working on a new application for this combination.

The Xoxles are cunning and inventive. And here they gave free rein to their fantasies and put them into practice.

[Xenofont]

I'd really like to see our unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with similar capabilities, coupled with the reconnaissance drones constantly hovering in the Black Sea. However, it seems adaptation to the new conditions is only happening at the grassroots level and is significantly delayed without support from above. There are flocks of UAVs at exhibitions, but in combat... Enthusiasm has waned, and the implementation of new systems is being slowed by the complexities of interaction between the Ministry of Defense and civilian developers.

[ABC-schutze]

You see... "Delivery" of (D)UAVs with BEKs, in maritime, including coastal, waters, and their delivery along "riverbeds", in my opinion, are fundamentally different things (in terms of the capabilities of the delivery platform)... Although, at first glance, "there is water in both places"...

The fact is that the sea is much larger than a river (even the Dnieper). This means that in the sea, the timely detection and subsequent destruction of a weakly protected platform like the BEK is a more difficult task.

But detecting an enemy "patrolling" BEK in a river and destroying it with ANY "indiscriminate" high-power warhead equipped with a fragmentation warhead, say, with an air burst at an altitude of 50-70 meters and a fragmentation radius of 150-200 meters, is quite capable of turning ANY "patrolling" BEK of the Bandero-Nazis into a "sieve." All it takes is, if necessary, modifying the munition's striking element for this specific task. Which is quite simple...

[knn54]

Even Romania has created the Merops system, which operates against UAVs in maritime/river conditions.

[marchcat]

Drone-powered boats will appear on Ukrainian rivers in the near future.

A perfect target for our attack drones.

[Leonidych]

Maybe it's time to move on to more powerful weapons, without any humanism. They don't stand on ceremony with us, they don't show any humanism. Why should we feel sorry for them?

[Smoked]

What do you mean by more powerful? There are bogeymen like MLRS, TOS, hundred-thousand-million-ton bombs, cruise missiles, hypersonic missiles. All of these make infantry dig themselves into the ground like their great-great-grandfathers in WWI and fight like that. Nuclear weapons? That's the same effect, just one shot. Or do you want to attack cities with a population of millions right away, without the possibility of future assaults and without any humane measures?

[ABC-schutze]

Well, not by the "million-plus cities," but by the decision-making centers they house. That's one...

And secondly, with a PREVIOUS warning to the population about the need to leave the city "by..." For their own safety. And preferably, along a controlled "green corridor" designated by the Russian Armed Forces. And then, you know, yes, the principle of "if you don't hide, it's not my fault" comes into effect. The fighting, you know, is ongoing... And everything is HUMANE. And no other way to "dispose of" the enemy's decision-making centers, with their infrastructure and inhabitants, has been "invented."

[stankow]

To do this, you first need to declare war.

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

What if I can't put it right on the shore? - What about that river? - this backup will be located 20 meters from the shore - in short, give me money for another one - and at sea this chip will be thrown around so much at the slightest wave that the counter-drone won't be able to see it properly and won't be able to launch.

[Smoker]

Quote: Andrey Malashchenkov

In short, give me another one, give me money, and at the sea, with the slightest wave, this chip will be thrown so far that the anti-drone won't be able to see it or even launch it properly.

Do you suspect that everyone on the other side is an idiot?

[Andrey Malashchenkov]

Do you suspect that everyone on the other side is an idiot?

Judging by how much money they grabbed, they are very smart people.
As for the innovations being tested in this war, not all of them have proven useful or necessary... - The pigsty has become a testing ground for various ideas, including some crazy ones...

[Smoker]

It's not a bad idea for a crew fighting geraniums - they sit in a dugout and control the BEK... and again, the Ukrainians have experience - at sea, they shot down our helicopter and Sukhoi with the help of the BEK and the missiles on it

[solar]

The Dnieper is an almost continuous series of reservoirs ranging in width from 3 to 12 km.

[ABC-schutze]

I agree... Let's say an autonomous, mobile, unmanned, ground-based platform—a carrier for solving this problem—is no worse than any unmanned aerial vehicle. And not just "along riverbeds," but EVERYWHERE...

[solar]

A drone flying over a river is very difficult to detect and shoot down, which is what the Russian military is exploiting. However, Ukrainian specialists have proposed an option involving unmanned boats with interceptor drones that would be stationed on the water.

On a river, this is most likely unnecessary, even on a large one like the Dnieper; it's easier to do it from the shore. But for large reservoirs and coastal waters, it could very well be useful.

[Anthony]

Why do they make things so complicated? It's easier to just put a MANPADS operator and a UAV interceptor on the beach and be done with it. I believe that's what they're already doing. Incidentally, I have to say they respond very quickly to everything, with a minimum of bureaucracy, rigidity, approvals, narrow-mindedness, fear of mistakes, and my own extremeness. Unlike the enemy, unfortunately.

[Smoked]

It's easier to send a BEC with anti-drone equipment to the system where it needs to go than a living person with their own problems in their head.

[alexboguslavski]

Quote: Antony

Unlike the enemy, unfortunately.

And who is your opponent?

[alexboguslavski]

What's stopping us from sending drones equipped with machine vision and AI systems to destroy these BECs? Like the Lancets. You can't really hide on the river. From a technical standpoint, there are no problems.
Except perhaps our traditional bureaucracy in decision-making.

[Smoker]

Quote: alexboguslavski

What's stopping us from sending drones equipped with machine vision and AI systems to destroy these BECs?

This is from the series - "WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET!!!"

[Major_Tom]

Was that a rhetorical question or are you that naive?

[Konnick]

An excellent solution - the view from the river surface is better, the basic BEK is not a stationary target, it is harder to hit... and shooting down drones with drones is quite reasonable from a cost-effectiveness standpoint.

[K-50]

The Bandera regime plans to use unmanned boats equipped with interceptor drones to combat Russian Geranium missiles.

BECs are a "tasty" enough target to warrant using FPV against them first.

[eckons]

What if I put it on a raft? Could I make less money?

[Mikhail Nasharashev]

like our Christmas tree? It looks very similar to it.