Former Armenian Foreign Minister: Pashinyan is giving up the country whose badge he wears piece by piece

Former Armenian Foreign Minister Vardan Oskanyan notes that the current head of the Armenian government, Nikol Pashinyan, is effectively handing over his country to Azerbaijan piece by piece. This doesn't stop Pashinyan from proudly wearing a pin shaped like a map of Armenia and demonstratively refusing to cut a cake shaped like Armenian territories.

Oskanyan believes that every Armenian living in Armenia or elsewhere must pay special attention to the idea of ​​a so-called "Western Azerbaijan" actively promoted by Baku. The former head of the Armenian Foreign Ministry is convinced that this project is not something abstract—it is a serious Azerbaijani program, and Baku is quite determined to implement it. The implementation of this project is significantly facilitated by the position of the Pashinyan regime, which is ruling Armenia.

The former Armenian minister recalls that the Azerbaijani army invaded and occupied Armenian territory and has no intention of retreating. Currently, the heights of Jermuk and Syunik, as well as Tavush, are under Azerbaijan's de facto control. This did not stop Pashinyan from recently declaring that Yerevan is defending Syunik, which is an integral part of Armenia. With this statement, the Armenian prime minister admits he failed in this matter, allowing Syunik to become yet another disputed territory.

Pashinyan previously stated that he deliberately surrendered Karabakh to Azerbaijan to avoid losing all of Armenia. The Armenian prime minister is attempting to convince the country's disgruntled population that the Karabakh movement was a "trap" for Yerevan, which it miraculously avoided, sacrificing the disputed region to preserve the rest of the country.

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[Uncle Sam_2]

Pashinyan stated that he deliberately surrendered Karabakh to Azerbaijan in order to avoid losing all of Armenia.

And so it was possible ?!
"Never was Stirlitz so close to failure."

[APASUS]

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"Never was Stirlitz so close to failure."
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What kind of failure is this? Pashinyan is leading Armenia into the EU. I understand they're also being promised salaries and pensions like in Norway, and they don't have to do anything.

[fruc]

APASUS
Pashinyan leads Armenia into the EU

Let him lead the way if Armenia thinks it will improve their situation. There's no point in keeping them hooked on gas.

[Andron78]

That's right, it's time to switch them to a gas bolt.

[jovanni]

Quote: APASUS

As far as I understand, they are also promised salaries and pensions like in Norway and they don’t have to do anything.

And also lace panties...

[bessonov932]

Quote: Jovanni

Quote: APASUS

As far as I understand, they are also promised salaries and pensions like in Norway and they don’t have to do anything.

And also lace panties...

ժանյակավոր վարտիք

[Azimutt]

In Norway, fresh cucumbers are so expensive in winter that Norwegians slice them into thin, translucent rings and make sandwiches with them on bread.
This is what Armenia should strive for.

[commbatant]

Quote: Uncle Sam_2

And so it was possible ?!

So yes, the Armenian people will not elect just anyone twice (and will soon elect them for a third time)...

[APASUS]

Quote: commbatant

So yes, the Armenian people will not elect just anyone twice (and will soon elect them for a third time).

Judging by the fact that oppositionists in Armenia have started to disappear, Pashinyan will be elected in 3
one and 4

[knn54]

There is such a profession - selling the Motherland.

[guest]

I understand that many of us are now gloating, saying that the Armenians deserved this, but I want to remind you that in the 90s, we also had something like this, how can I put it politely, when the authorities were in power.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: guest

I understand that many of us are now gloating, saying that the Armenians deserved this, but I want to remind you that in the 90s, we also had something like this, how can I put it politely, when the authorities were in power.

It was. The only difference is that we found the strength to endure.
And the Armenians will, as usual, scatter across the world, including to us.
After all, it was hard for one-eighth of the world's land and 150 million people to "disperse around the world." Unless they were sliced ​​into wedges, like a watermelon...

It's amazing how people can't seem to understand that if they're not with Russia, they're with no one. They simply don't exist. There's Charles Aznavour in France, but there are simply no Armenians in Armenia without Russia.

[guest]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And the Armenians will scatter around the world as usual, and to us - including.

Well, they're coming to us first and foremost; the West isn't exactly eager for them. For that reason, I'd like to wish them luck in getting rid of this (expletive).

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: guest

wish them luck in getting rid of this (expletive)

You can wish them luck as much as you want. But they're just not itching to get rid of them.
I don’t know... Maybe we should give those “who need it” an American manual on “orange revolutions” to read?
Otherwise, it seems like our only goal is to keep Armenia in the EAEU at any cost. We need them there so badly. And the fact that this Soros kid is openly rude to our Supreme Leader's face is nothing compared to the Great Goal—keeping Armenia in the EAEU...

[commbatant]

Quote: Zoldat_A

After all, it was difficult for one eighth of the land and 150 million people to “disperse around the world.”

Let me correct you: the Russian Federation occupies 1/9 of the world's landmass, while the Russian Empire, for example, occupied 1/6. Why is that? That's a question for the Bolsheviks and communists.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: commbatant

Quote: Zoldat_A

After all, it was difficult for one eighth of the land and 150 million people to “disperse around the world.”

Let me correct you: the Russian Federation occupies 1/9 of the world's landmass, while the Russian Empire, for example, occupied 1/6. Why is that? That's a question for the Bolsheviks and communists.

Since school, since elementary school, it stuck in my head from some poem

One sixth of sushi
With a proud name - Rus.

After the collapse of the USSR, in the 90s, I heard about one-eighth. I didn't check it myself. There was no internet back then, and I was too lazy and too busy to dig into reference books on the subject.
Now it's become interesting.
It turns out that both the sixth and eighth are without Antarctica.
Why it wasn't counted as land, I don't know. But in this case, everything seems to fit.

Now, if we include Antarctica, but within "internationally recognized borders" (the enemy resource, Wikipedia, gives such figures and wording), then it turns out that Russia's land area is 10,53723144272137% of the Earth's total land area. That is, one tenth and a half.
It turns out that with Donbass and Crimea (I don’t know what else Wikipedia didn’t count – they could easily have found something in the Arctic or the Far East) – it could well be 1/9.

I also like to play around with numbers sometimes.

[Seal]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It's amazing how people can't seem to understand that if they're not with Russia, they're with no one. They simply don't exist. There's Charles Aznavour in France, but there are simply no Armenians in Armenia without Russia.

They're from the United States. There are no fewer Armenians living in the United States than here. And according to some Armenian data, there are even more. The total amount of finance controlled by Armenians in the United States far exceeds the total amount controlled by Armenians in Russia. And when combined with Armenians in other Western countries, the total amount controlled by Armenians is far greater than the total amount controlled by Armenians in Russia. Moreover, many Armenians in Russia, especially those who actually control the financial flows, hold not only our passports, but also those of the United States, France, and elsewhere.
Plus, we shouldn't forget the huge Armenian diaspora (splika) in Ukraine. Before the SVO, there were about 600 of them there. In absolute numbers, that's less than ours, but per capita in Ukraine, it's no less. And these Ukrainian Armenians are fighting against us very actively. Not only as part of terrorist battalions (previously), and later as part of various units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, but they even created their own formation.
https://geochronic.ru/index.php?title=Армянский_легион

The Armenian Legion or the Armenian Bagratuni Legion ((Armenian: Հայկական լեգեոն) is a paramilitary unit of Armenian mercenaries and nationalists in Ukraine.
According to available information, the legion was created under the supervision of the Main Intelligence Directorate. There is also reason to believe that the legion is part of the International Territorial Defense Legion.
Established in June 2023. It has the status of a public organization in Ukraine, EDRPOU 45106910.
The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation recognized the Armenian Bagratuni Legion* as a terrorist organization by decision No. AKPI24-898s of November 22, 2024, which entered into force on December 28, 2024.

[Malynets_]

They didn't leave...their heirs rule.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

You chose it yourself, eat it yourself

[multi-category]

Sacrificing the disputed region to preserve the rest of the country

What prevented Armenia from reaching a peaceful agreement and concluding peace on terms that were normal for Armenia before the conflict?
No, they had to wait for the militarization of Azerbaijan, and now they don’t want to disband the army they created at great expense without stripping the Armenians of their underwear.
In my opinion, Pashinyan's policies are directly destroying Armenia. However, I don't understand why Armenians themselves don't remember this and support him, believing that it's not Pashinyan or Azerbaijan who are to blame, but rather Russia, which, while it may not have done everything possible, did fight to prevent the outbreak of war.

[Seal]

Quote: multicaat

What prevented Armenia from reaching a peaceful agreement and concluding peace on terms that were normal for Armenia before the conflict?

Until what conflict? Just in case: the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan began in 1992 and has not formally ended since. There is no information that the parliaments of Azerbaijan and Armenia have ratified the Armenian-Azerbaijani peace agreement signed on August 8, 2025.

[multi-category]

The talk was about a peaceful settlement and the return of the occupied territories in exchange for a peace treaty, as well as a settlement of the overall peaceful status of Karabakho-Artsakh. Azerbaijan agreed to this. But the Pashinyan government did not. Moreover, it had not yet adequately prepared for defense, meaning it was literally provoking an attack, and Azerbaijan bit the bullet.
The situation looks even more idiotic in light of the slow escalation of clashes, when the alarm bells were literally ringing: do something to avoid screwing up. But what was happening in Armenia?
Absolutely nothing. There are no personnel decisions, weapons modernization has been botched and stolen, and if they've decided to go into conflict, there's no proper engineering preparation of positions, and camouflage is abysmal. There are zero trained junior officers.
I believe Pashinyan and his administration are directly to blame for the fact that, although a long-standing conflict had been extinguished, it escalated into a heated phase, resulting in defeat for Armenia and a host of troubles that are far from over. Pashinyan also fell out with the CSTO and attempted to blame them and use their strength as cover.
In general, it feels like he is a double agent and is doing everything to drown Armenia.

[Seal]

Quote: multicaat

The talk was about a peaceful settlement and the return of the occupied territories in exchange for a peace treaty, as well as a settlement of the overall peaceful status of Karabakho-Artsakh. Azerbaijan agreed to this. But the Pashinyan government did not. Moreover, it had not yet adequately prepared for defense, meaning it was literally provoking an attack, and Azerbaijan bit the bullet.
In general, it feels like he is a double agent and is doing everything to drown Armenia.

Pashinyan is certainly to blame. However, I disagree with the idea that the conflict was supposedly resolved. The conflict was cooled in May 1994. But it was not frozen and certainly not resolved. Let's look at what was signed and when.
By March 1995, three main documents signed by Armenia, Azerbaijan and the NKR were in force:
the Ceasefire Agreement that entered into force on May 12, 1994;
- an agreement signed on July 27, 1994 on commitments to establish a ceasefire regime;
- Agreement on the settlement of incidents of February 6, 1995.
Everything was more or less orderly and noble until both Armenia and Azerbaijan were part of the Collective Security Treaty.
However, in early 1997, the Minister for Cooperation with the CIS, Aman Tuleyev, perplexed by information he had obtained (he did not disclose the source of the information) about the supply of infantry fighting vehicles and tanks in 1994-1996 for a total of 271 billion rubles, sent letters to Prime Minister Viktor Chernomyrdin, Defense Minister Igor Rodionov, and the Secretaries of the Security Council and Defense Council Ivan Rybkin and Yuri Baturin demanding an investigation.
As Igor Rodionov reported in a response letter to Tuleyev, a special commission established by the Ministry of Defense conducted an investigation. According to Rodionov, 84 T-72 tanks and 50 infantry fighting vehicles were indeed transferred to Armenia free of charge, without the permission of the government or the president.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/174254
Naturally, this attitude angered Azerbaijan's leadership. However, it remained a member of the Collective Security Treaty, largely because the first president of the Second Republic of Armenia, Levon Ter-Petrosyan (who had no ties to the Karabakh clans), favored the return of the occupied territories to Azerbaijan. However, because of this position, Levon Ter-Petrosyan was forced to resign on February 3, 1998. The Karabakh clan of Kocharyan, determined to wage a harsh confrontation with Azerbaijan, came to power in Armenia. Azerbaijan had no further interest in the Collective Security Treaty, and in April 1999, Azerbaijan did not renew its membership in the Collective Security Treaty.
Ideally, Armenia's membership in the CSTO should have been frozen, but for some reason this was not done.
Azerbaijan decided to act through the United States. Literally the day after the CST membership extension expired, on April 25, 1999, Kocharyan and Aliyev held their first bilateral meeting in Washington.
However, light soon appeared at the end of the tunnel, as the Unity bloc, led by Vazgen Sargsyan and Karen Demirchyan, won the parliamentary elections in Armenia on May 30, 1999. On June 11, 1999, Vazgen Sargsyan was appointed Prime Minister of Armenia. After this, judging by numerous documents and testimonies, thanks to K. Demirchyan's initiatives and diplomatic skills, there was a real opportunity to begin a settlement of the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan on compromise terms. However, on October 27, 1999, during a session of the Armenian parliament in Yerevan, the initiator of the compromise solution to the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, Speaker of the Parliament (since June 1999) Karen Demirchyan, as well as Prime Minister Vazgen Sargsyan and their closest colleagues, were "demonstratively" assassinated. As it turned out, almost all of the killers were from Nagorno-Karabakh, and six of them were members of the Armenian nationalist party Dashnaktsutyun.
After this, shooting along the conflict line intensified.
Then there was a serious escalation between 2014 and 2016. In April 2016, there was the so-called "Four-Day War." During this "war," Azerbaijan realized it could successfully beat the Armenians. Meanwhile, Serzh Sargsyan and his clique continued to steal and irritate us, for example, on May 28, 2016 (Armenia's national holiday, First Republic Day), Serzh Sargsyan ceremoniously unveiled a monument to Nazi collaborator Nzhdeh in central Yerevan.
Amid a battle for corruption, Pashinyan came to power in Armenia on May 8, 2018. I believe that, seeing the fate of K. Demirchyan, Pashinyan hesitated to openly oppose the Karabakh clan. After all, any agreement with Azerbaijan was only possible at the expense of Karabakh. I got the impression that Pashinyan, realizing that Karabakh was hanging over Armenia like a huge, heavy weight that was gradually destroying Armenia itself, and even more so realizing that he was powerless to rid himself of the Karabakh clan on his own, decided to get rid of it... with the help of Azerbaijan. He brought matters to a war, in which Karabakh demonstrated its complete incompetence.
In the end, the weight was lifted and Armenia got a chance.

[multi-category]

I completely agree, you've made the necessary clarifications. I thought something similar, but I still believed that the Karabakh clan wasn't so powerful that it couldn't be fought. Cowardly decisions bring a lot of shame and grief in history, and I believe Pashinyan has made a ton of them. That's his fault. Besides, his allies have already embezzled yet another army budget.
As for 2016, I believe Azerbaijan made all the decisions earlier, and that was merely a litmus test before the real conflict—they were checking their level of readiness. Even then, the Azerbaijani budget was focused on purchasing foreign advanced weaponry, clearly not for defense. For example, their army was already using Israeli Spike ATGMs, while the Armenian army was essentially stuck with Soviet-era weapons, sometimes with minimal modernization. For example, their Osa missiles weren't the latest modification, making them poor candidates against Bayraktars. Karabakh didn't have a single radar capable of detecting UAVs, its mine inventory was practically nonexistent, and so on. Another important point is that Armenia didn't have any significant special forces trained for operations in the Karabakh theater of operations. By comparison, even South Ossetia had and still has them.

[Seal]

Quote: multicaat

Even at that time, the Azerbaijani budget was focused on purchasing foreign advanced weapons.

I once made a selection. It will be interesting to see. I hope.

[multi-category]

The list is a bit shocking. Not because they supplied anything at all—if they hadn't bought it from us, they would have bought it from others. But because it's clear that Armenia was homeopathically purchasing only positional weapons, while Azerbaijan was buying a variety of weapons for its actively maneuvering army. The structure alone made it clear what was being prepared.

[Seal]

Azerbaijan specifically purchased at world prices.
What about Armenia?
Remember the so-called "energy Maidan" in Armenia in 2015?
Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/1937447.html
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

Russia has allocated a $200 million soft loan to Armenia to equip the country's armed forces with modern weaponry. Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan and Russian Transport Minister Maxim Sokolov, who co-chairs the commission, attended the meeting of the intergovernmental commission in Yerevan.
According to the Armenian President, this loan will significantly expand the capabilities of the country's armed forces.
The head of state noted with satisfaction that key issues for Armenia had been resolved, including the pricing system for natural gas purchases. Since January 1, 2015, Armenia has been paying $165 per 1 cubic meters, up from the previous $189. This has made it possible to avoid raising domestic gas tariffs, even given the weakening of the national currency (the dram).
In addition to this preferential loan, Armenia and Russia also have a military-technical cooperation agreement, allowing them to purchase weapons directly from manufacturers at domestic Russian prices. Thus, by spending the funds received, the Armenian armed forces will be able to obtain significantly more weapons than other countries in the region.

What happened before that? Before that, there was something called "Energy Maidan" in Yerevan. Armenians took to the streets of their capital to protest rising electricity rates.

Protests outside the residence of Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan began on June 22, 2015, when a protest against rising electricity rates took place on Baghramyan Avenue. Around three thousand people participated in the event. On June 24, police attempted to disperse the protesters using water cannons. Among the protesters were people carrying Ukrainian and EU flags.

But on June 25, 2015, Russian Transport Minister Sokolov arrived in Yerevan and brought $200 million in his beak for Armenia's military equipment.
On the afternoon of June 27, Sokolov flew to Moscow.
Sargsyan, having confirmed that Sokolov had departed, went out to the people himself on the evening of June 27 and announced the decision to postpone the increase in energy tariffs.

Protesters in central Yerevan enthusiastically welcomed the president's decision.

So, as soon as Armenia received $200 million for arms purchases, the whole circus with the tariff (energy) Maidan ended, Sargsyan said: "Thank you all, everyone is free," music began to play on Baghramyan Avenue, and many demonstrators began to dance, celebrating the victory.

[multi-category]

Quote: Seal

Armenia received $200 million

This is approximately 20 T90 tanks with accompanying technical support.
I wouldn't say it radically changed the situation, but it was more than enough to build an effective defense in Karabakh.
If they had simply sent a company of officers trained in special operations for infantry, sappers, and artillery in the mountains to Russia with this money, it could have had a significant impact on events.

[Seal]

That was only then. There were other "technical loans" from us.
But the main flow of money into Armenia and Karabakh for many years came from the United States and the West in general.
KIRK KRKORYAN (USA)
The founder and president of Tracinda Corporation, one of the largest corporations in the United States, owned shares in Chrysler and Ford Motor Company. Kerkorian's companies operated the largest casinos in Nevada and California: MGM Grand, Flamengo, and the International Hotel. In 2005, the Washington Post ranked Kerkorian second among the most successful gambling entrepreneurs in US history (the first was Benjamin Siegelbaum). Kerkorian founded the United Armenian Found and the Lincy Foundation. According to Armenian Bar Co., between 1988 and 2011, Kerkorian donated over $5 billion to Armenia and the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. He was awarded the title of National Hero of Armenia.

STEPHEN KANDARIAN (USA). PRESIDENT OF INTERNATIONAL insurance company MetLife. Kandarian's official fortune is estimated at $25 billion. About 90% of the top 500 Fortune 31 companies are MetLife corporate customers. Today, MetLife is also ranked 500st on the list of the world's XNUMX largest companies. Steve Kandarian is one of the largest Armenian philanthropists, but prefers not to advertise his activities. Every year he transfers millions of dollars to the accounts of Armenian charitable foundations. His companies provide assistance to leading Armenian lobbying groups in the United States.
EDUARDO ERNEKIAN (ARGENTINA) PRESIDENT OF American International Airports and Aeropuertos Argentina 2000. Eurnekian's companies operate 32 airports in Argentina and major airports in Uruguay, Ecuador and Armenia. It was thanks to the investments of Eduardo Eurnekian that the old terminal of the Zvartnots airport was reconstructed (cost $200 million). In February 2007, Eurnekyan bought shares of Converse Bank CJSC (Armenia). Today he is considered the richest businessman in Argentina and one of the five richest people in South America. Eurnekian is the main financial donor to Armenian organizations in Latin America. Over the past five years, he has invested many millions of dollars in various funds in Armenia and Artsakh. In 2011, Catholicos of All Armenians Karekin II, during his trip to Argentina, dedicated Eduardo Eurnekian to the Knights of Holy Etchmiadzin.

And so on and so forth. If you do the math, it turns out that from the collapse of the USSR until September 27, 2020, the diaspora transferred tens of billions of dollars to Armenia (and Karabakh).

[Nyrobsky]

There have been reports that Mykola Pashinyan has a Canadian passport. That's all you need to know about where he intends to live out his old age, and it's definitely not Armenia.
The time will come when Armenians will call stray, mangy dogs "Nikolopashinyans" and throw stones at them, but this will no longer help Armenia.

[Seal]

Quote: Nyrobsky

There have been reports that Mykola Pashinyan has a Canadian passport. That's all you need to know about where he intends to live out his old age, and it's definitely not Armenia.

In the same way, and probably from the same "truthful sources," there was information that Pashinyan was actually an alien and, upon completion of his mission, would fly away to his Galaxy to live out his old age. .

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Seal

In the same way, and probably from the same "truthful sources," there was information that Pashinyan was actually an alien and, upon completion of his mission, would fly away to his Galaxy to live out his old age.

For Armenia he is definitely an alien.

[Tagan]

Every Armenian living in Armenia or other countries is obliged to pay special attention to the idea of ​​the so-called “Western Azerbaijan” actively promoted by Baku.

And the Russian Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Surveillance. It's even scarier. It's a sort of special forces unit, similar to Rospotrebnadzor.

Rosselkhoznadzor officially announced the start of comprehensive inspections of Armenian enterprises.

The weevil show begins. The Onishchenko case lives on!

[fruc]

Tagan
The Onishchenko case lives on!

This is just awful!!!
....135 cases of quarantine objects were detected, which is 77% of the number of detections identified for the whole of 2025 - 176. Of these, 133 cases were western flower (California) thrips, 1 - black citrus whitefly and 1 - tobacco whitefly.

[Tagan]

This is just awful!!!
...135 cases of quarantine objects were detected

Who would have thought... The European guests, along with Zelenyukh, brought the infection. There's no one else!

[Zaurbek]

No one can love their country more than Armenians themselves. Judging by their historical path, Armenia is not going through this for the first or second time. History would have ended for them long ago in the 10s. If not for the Republic of Armenia.

[Dedok]

History would have ended for them long ago in the 10s. If it weren't for the Russian Empire.

Apparently they don't know how to "read" - especially the History textbook; they apparently use their "ears" more - it's also easier...

[VladislavZ]

Every nation deserves its leaders. It was the Armenians who carried him around at rallies. Not the Russians, not the Turks! Armenians! Now you can slurp up your own mess, and we'll have to clean up ours. But the good news is that nothing lasts forever. Future generations will twist everything their own way, and as the Jews (very wisely) say: "Everything always ends in tears." And that's true.

[andrey martov]

In my opinion, Pashinyan is not giving up Armenia, but selling it out. I wouldn't be surprised if his name appears on the Forbes list soon.

[Nexcom]

I don't see any "his country" badges on the "Armenian" in the photo on his jacket...

[TermNachTer]

Pashinyan is the Armenian version of a greenhorn. For him, Armenia is a territory where he makes money. For him, the most important thing is to make it before Zvartnots, when his power ends.

[Nexcom]

This is the standard approach of all these Sandu-Šmandu, border-state rulers, etc., they sell out countries for money and power.

[Atlant83]

Every country has its traitors in the highest echelons of power. And to please others, they begin to curry favor and dance to their tune, the main thing being that no one touches their relatives, and then themselves.

[tatarin1972]

The grandson looks very much like his grandfather.

[16112014nk]

It's not just Armenia. It's some kind of pandemic among the highest ranks worldwide. They're all selling everything according to the principle: "For money – YES!"

[VladislavZ]

They seem more like the enchanted or the cunning. They watch the same news as the plebs, but they have more reliable sources of information about the world around them. I don't believe my Enemy is stupid, short-sighted, and so weak that he's about to die. And I wouldn't advise you to either. Therefore, they're following a (so far) unexplained plan and pretending to be idiots. Considering that their strategists have also studied "The Art of War" (I hope so, as has our General Staff), things are much worse than we realize...

[Ishi]

Turkish pasha-nyan as is.
Drawn by AI.

[Varyazhko]

6 fingers, immediately noticeable

[snow mountain]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And the Armenians will, as usual, scatter across the world, including to us.

This is what worries me most. I don't care about any of the disassembly.

[VladislavZ]

As soon as Armenia leaves the Eurasian Economic Union, a million-plus Armenians will become migrant workers, their social status changing. And that's a lot – health insurance, patents, residence permits, kindergartens, schools... In short, they don't like it here anymore. They'll be mistreated, the poor... There'll be a howl! The "state" has slightly weakened the oligarchs against migrants. It's become more difficult to import, and they have to answer for it. Sometimes... It damages the oligarchs' reputations. So far, it's just lost money, not years behind bars.

[isv000]

Former Armenian Foreign Minister Vardan Oskanyan notes that the current head of the republic's government, Nikol Pashinyan, is effectively handing over his country to Azerbaijan piece by piece.

For Aram, it's enough to recall the Erivan Khanate and Bayazet. And imagine what would have happened to their ancestors without the heroism of the Russian Cossacks. History has come full circle, and if not for our border guards and the base in Gyumri in the Karabakh War, Yerevan would have regained its original name. Leaving the EAEU? Goodbye, Armenia, bye! Take up the duduk and play us a farewell!

[Sergey Mitinsky]

Among the Armenians with whom I communicate, there is a widespread opinion that Armenia has never lived so well today.

Naturally, this opinion is not shared by refugees from Karabakh, but I have never had to deal with such people, mostly with people from Yerevan and Gyumri.

Pashinyan is Armenia's Yeltsin. He sold out the USSR, this one sold out Armenia, and everything that's good in Armenia now is a ruse that will sooner or later run out, and dark times and retribution for betrayal will come for Armenia.

[Seal]

Quote: Sergey Mitinsky

Among the Armenians with whom I communicate, there is a widespread opinion that Armenia has never lived so well today.

Let's see the election results. Maybe that's true. They have elections very soon, on June 7th.

[Sergey Mitinsky]

We'll see, but Armenians in Armenia itself are divided.
Pashinyan is hanging on by a thread, and the Turks aren't putting pressure on him yet, and are even pleasing him in every way. That's why they have such a temporarily good life.
EU patronage for Armenia is a worthless sham. If Pashinyan balks at Turkey's wishes, his entire structure will crumble.
The Turks need Armenians as obedient lackeys. They intend to take the border with Iran and unite with Azerbaijan. And traitor Pashinyan won't do anything about it.

[newtc7]

Well, the Armenians like him, and they blame the Russians for all their troubles. So let him give in. We just need to establish a base there and get them out of the CSTO and the Eurasian Economic Union. And sell oil at a 20% markup; they have nowhere else to get it anyway.

[Seal]

Oh oh oh

The former Armenian minister reminds that the Azerbaijani army invaded the territory of Armenia, It has occupied it and has no intention of retreating. Currently, the heights of Jermuk and Syunik, as well as Tavush, are under Azerbaijan's de facto control.

The former Armenian minister somehow "forgot" to mention that at one point (according to maps from the General Staff of the Soviet Army and even the Red Army from 1942, handed over by Russian President Vladimir Putin to both sides of the conflict), these territories belonged to the Azerbaijan SSR. During the Soviet era, Armenians, under various pretexts, such as "straightening the road," asked their neighbors for permission to use these generally small plots of land. But, as is well known, if an Armenian receives something for use in the evening, the next morning they consider it their own, and indeed, theirs forever.
Secondly, even if Azerbaijan had advanced further than the borders indicated on the maps provided by Vladimir Vladimirovich, this still shouldn't have triggered the hysteria of the Armenian side, "Oh, they've committed aggression against us." Why don't the Armenians understand that, de jure, a state of war still exists between Armenia and Azerbaijan, unleashed by the Armenians in 1992, in which Armenia is the aggressor. Yes, I'm aware that on May 8, 2025, Pashinyan and Aliyev, in the presence of the "great peacemaker" Trump, signed a peace agreement. However, this agreement was supposed to be ratified by the parliaments of Armenia and Azerbaijan. But there was no information about ratification.
But even if the Azerbaijanis had invaded "ancestral Armenian" territory, it would have been before Pashinyan and Aliyev signed the peace agreement. That is, during the war. So what's wrong then? Didn't the Red Army have the right to cross the Reich's borders in 1944 and bring the war to the place from which it had come to us in 1941?
For some reason, Armenians believe that the period of their victorious offensive in 1992-1994 constitutes a kind of First Karabakh War, which supposedly ended with the signing of a tripartite ceasefire agreement on May 12, 1994. And no matter how hard they try, they stubbornly fail to understand that a ceasefire agreement is not a Peace Treaty. Or even an Armistice Agreement. A ceasefire agreement is merely the first step toward a Peace Treaty. However, beyond this first step, no further steps were taken for a couple of decades after May 12, 1994. Armenians fail to understand that the war in May 1994 wasn't over, but merely frozen. However, the ceasefire agreement of May 12, 1994, was violated quite soon, with both sides blaming each other for the violation.

[Seal]

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What prevented Armenia from reaching a peaceful agreement and concluding peace on terms that were normal for Armenia before the conflict?
No, they had to wait for the militarization of Azerbaijan, and now they don’t want to disband the army they created at great expense without stripping the Armenians of their underwear.

But what does Pashinyan have to do with this? He came to power in a really bad way. after that, how Azerbaijan militarized and created an army significantly more powerful than Armenia's.

[MCmaximus]

Well, if you look at the big picture, the Armenians started a huge mess in the 90s. They ruined all relations with their neighbors. And essentially, Karabakh was just a nuisance all this time. So Pashinyan gave it up. He betrayed everything and everyone, but in the long run, it was the right thing to do. And the funniest thing is that the territory of Armenia itself isn't Armenia at all. Armenia remained in Turkey. And Karabakh is also Armenia. That's how messed up it is.

[Vyacheslav Boldyrev]

Armenia is a shining example of what "cunning" can lead to.
Multi-vectorism, an attempt to “suck two mothers”, will end with the disappearance of Armenia!
Azerbaijanis It will be swallowed and not suppressed, and we don’t need to save Armenians anymore!

[VladislavZ]

Stop trying to save everyone! Armenians, for sure! There are about five million of them worldwide, and maybe a couple million in their "homeland." If you stretch it far enough. Let's focus on ourselves and our close friends. Belarus, North Korea, Iran, and Cuba. MORE than enough! I forgot about Africa, sorry. Here we can help pin a "hegemon" on the country without global annihilation. Let's do that first! Let Iran take over the Muslim countries. That's a dream! Noticed I didn't mention China.

[VladislavZ]

By the way, haven't you forgotten about China's interests? The planet used to be divided between two, roughly speaking. How many now? And China is only interested in stable logistics routes. So, what have we come to? What does China want, and how does this fit into the situation?