Mystery of state symbols

If you look for a definition of what “state symbols” are, then all explanatory dictionaries will give you the answer — THE SYMBOLS OF THE STATE are the same as the attributes of the state. They give an idea of ​​the nature (essence) of the state and the values ​​it adheres to, personify its national sovereignty and identity.

In principle, state symbols should be offered and approved by all people. But here they are determined in accordance with the opinion of the deputies, and, accordingly, the laws they adopt regarding these symbols.

Everything! State symbols taken! They are beginning to be intensively studied in schools, institutes, they are present at all holidays and in all institutions ...And no one even suspects that after official approval, these symbols begin to influence the subconscious of people, the life and fate of the state.

I understand that after reading the last statement, some forum users may say: “Bullshit is everything,” but I will ask you not to rush to conclusions, but carefully consider the symbols of our dear independent republics.

So that no one had any complaints - let's go alphabetically: Belarus, Russia, Ukraine.

The Republic of Belarus

Belarus is the only country of the former USSR (not counting the unrecognized Transnistria) that restored the Soviet flag (with minor changes). The modern flag follows the pattern of the flag of the Byelorussian SSR, from which Soviet symbols were removed - hammer, sickle and the star, and the ornament is depicted in red on a white background (on the flag of the Byelorussian SSR, the ornament was white on a red background).

For ceremonies and other celebrations The national flag of the Republic of Belarus is used with a diamond-shaped tip with a five-pointed star.

In his speech at the meeting with the winners of the 25 September 1996 contest of the year, Alexander Lukashenko explained the meanings of the colors of the flag and its ornament :.

“The red color on our flag is the color of the victorious standards of the Grunwald victory of the Belarusian regiments over the crusaders. This is the color of the banners of the Red Army divisions and the Belarusian partisan brigades that liberated our land from the fascist invaders and their minions. Green embodies hope, spring and revival; this is the color our forests and fields. White color is the embodiment of spiritual purity.
In the ornament of the flag, the symbols of agriculture are used - rhombuses, the most ancient graphic variations of which are known to archaeologists by their findings on the territory of Belarus. "

The State Emblem of the Republic of Belarus is located in a silver field. the green contour of the State Border of the Republic of Belarus superimposed on the golden rays of the sun rising over the globe. At the top of the field is a five-pointed red star. The coat of arms is framed by a wreath of golden ears, interlaced with flowers of clover on the right, on the left - with flax flowers. The wreath is intertwined three times on each side with a red-green ribbon, in the middle part of which at the base of the State Emblem of the Republic of Belarus two words are inscribed in gold with the words “Republic of Belarus”. (Law of the Republic of Belarus "On state symbols of the Republic of Belarus", July 5 2004, No. 301-З)

Well and the anthem match!

We, Belarusians - my people,
Sertsam addanaya Rodnay zyamlі,
Shchyra sabiruem, sily we gartuem
We ў pratsavіtay, free syam'i.
Glory, you see our light,
Hail, people ў эр эр эр!
Our love matsі-Radzіma,
Everlasting life, Belarus!
Razam s brothers muzhna Vyakami
We baranіlі dear steam,
Have bites for will, bites for share
Own zdabyvali scythe paramog!
Glory, you see our light,
Hail, people ў эр эр эр!
Our love matsі-Radzіma,
Everlasting life, Belarus!
Friendship of the peopleў - with the peopleла -
Our sack, sonyachnyh shlyah.
Gorda is well-known clear high,
Stsyag peramozhny - radastsі stsyag!
Glory, you see our light,
Hail, people ў эр эр эр!
Our love matsі-Radzіma,
Everlasting life, Belarus!

I think that he doesn’t need a translation! All clear! And, most importantly, all the symbols are harmonious. They continue historical development of the country. AND Belarusin my opinion, that's why remains the most stable Republic. Yes, there are difficulties, like all. Yes, there are dissatisfied, but their minority! Yes, sometimes it is very difficult, but people overcome these difficulties, because the symbols of the country support in them the Spirit and Faith in their country.
With all my heart I wish the glorious Republic of Belarus further prosperity and development. With such symbols it can not be broken!

Russian Federation

The national flag of the Russian Federation is a rectangular panel, consisting of three horizontal equal-sized bands: the top is white, the middle is blue, the bottom is red. What do the colors of the flag of Russia mean?
Currently, most often (unofficially) the following interpretation of the meaning of the colors of the flag of Russia is used: white color means peace, purity, purity, perfection; blue - the color of faith and faithfulness, constancy; red color symbolizes energy, strength, blood shed for the Fatherland.

(Although I personally like one more - the "sovereign" interpretation of the meanings of flag colors, which means the unity of three fraternal Eastern Slavic peoples: white - the color of White Russia of Belarus), blue - Little Russia (Ukraine), red - Great Russia.)

Coat of arms of the Russian Federation

The national emblem of Russia is a golden two-headed eagle placed on a red heraldic shield; above the eagle, three historical crowns of Peter I. Two small ones - over each of the heads and one big one over two small crowns; in the paws of an eagle - scepter and orb; on the chest of an eagle on a red shield is a rider striking a dragon with a spear. Scepter and orb - symbols of Russian power. A scepter is a rod pointing, or a cane, or a staff. In ancient mythology, the scepter was the supreme deity. Power - this is a ball with a cross - a symbol of the king's power over the world. Earlier, the state was called the "sovereign apple". The rider striking a dragon with a spear on the chest at the eagle is the emblem of Moscow - St. George the Victorious.

It seems to be a great coat of arms! That's just the coat of arms of the empire! BUT Empire, As is known, most often a vast state, including the territories of other peoples and states. Russia was called I. in 1721-1917 years; Also called the empires of large states with extensive colonial possessions. The empire forms the metropolis and its colonies.

Well and, forgive, whom Russia is going to transform into its colony? Who is going to grab to expand their possessions? Is it because now the former republics of the USSR are afraid to enter into an alliance with Russia? Well, the liberals and the "crams" - shouting that the Russian Empire has gathered everyone to enslave again!

Let this emblem be beautiful, but it DOES NOT correspond to the aspirations of Russia and the people! IMHO.

Russian anthem

Russia is our sacred state
Russia is our favorite country.
Mighty will great glory
Your heritage for all time!
Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The brotherly peoples of the union age-old,
Ancestors given wisdom of the people!
Be glorious, country! We are proud of you!
From the southern seas to the polar region
Spread our forests and fields.
One you in the world! One you so -
God's native land!
Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The brotherly peoples of the union age-old,
Ancestors given wisdom of the people!
Be glorious, country! We are proud of you!
Wide space for dreams and for life
The future is open to us for years.
Our loyalty to the Motherland gives us strength.
It was so, so it is and always will be so!
Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The brotherly peoples of the union age-old,
Ancestors given wisdom of the people!
Be glorious, country! We are proud of you!
Music A. Alexandrov
Words by S. Mikhalkov

But the anthem is just wonderful! Moreover, he practically saved SOVIET music, and the words really correspond to the Spirit of the people! And though in other words, but correspond to the opinion of the Soviet people!
So we got to the Soviet characters. After all, they still exist and act! These are red stars on the towers of the Kremlin, and just stars on the facades and doors of various institutions, this is the Eternal Flame in the Parks of Glory, and monuments of the Soviet era, and the streets named after the heroes who gave their lives in the fight against fascism .... much more.

AND THE PRESENT SYMBOLS ARRAY WITH THE PAST! So the people argue all the time! Well, you can not connect the unconnected - capitalism and socialism, and there is no smooth historical transition. Maybe "some" thought that by changing the characters, everyone would happily run into capitalism? Did not work out! Soviet characters do not allow! And if you change the symbols on the socialist? Ltd! How many opponents there are!

So it turns out that Russia (my love!) despite some progress in the economy, armament, development, EVERYTHING IS EQUAL AS A REMAINING ON THE PLACE AND CANNOT BE ANY DECISION ABOUT THE SELECTED WAY. Can not carry along all the people! Can not specify a goal that will inspire people!

The national emblem and flag of our Motherland must embody its social and political system.

State symbols should reflect the fundamental idea of ​​the equality of all citizens of the Republic, regardless of social, national or religious affiliation.

And until the symbols of the state are harmonized, there will be no sense! Therefore, they must be determined by all the people, and not by a handful of deputies who have climbed into power! And then it will be possible to educate patriots who will know and respect its state symbols.

Would you like to change something in the symbolism of Russia?

And finally, Ukraine!
(My ongoing pain!)

Flag

Traditionally it is believed that the blue and yellow stripes on the national flag means a cloudless sky and yellow wheat in the field. But not all historians agree with this. After all, blue means “the power of God,” and yellow means “faith in God.”

Small “mystical retreat” Once at the beginning of 1992, the Chinese artist Mao Mao asked at a creative event of the then President of Ukraine Leonid Kravchuk to do everything in his power so that in the newly emerged independent Ukraine first of all they would change the placement of flowers on the main state symbol - blue-yellow flag. Say, if it continues to remain the same, then under this combination of colors the country will face inevitable degradation, treason, decay, and finally collapse. After all, according to the artist, the blue on top and yellow on the bottom form the “Pi” hexagram. And this, according to the classical Chinese book of changes, I-Ching, is one of the four worst combinations. And they decode it like this: “Be vigilant and prudent. Do not undertake any important business, because it will not come true rather than come true. Your entourage does not understand you, you are arguing with friends without any reason. ”
Whereas the reverse placement of flowers, when yellow is located at the top, and blue - at the bottom, forms a completely different hexagram “Tai”, which means: “Blossoming. Small leaves. Big is coming. Happiness. Development".

However, L. Kravchuk, whom poets – people's deputies convinced that the blue – yellow flag symbolized the peaceful sky and the golden Ukrainian wheat under him, then laughed: what is useful, they say, for the Chinese, death is for the Chinese and vice versa.

It is possible to treat such “mystical” things in different ways, but the fact remains. At least the 20-year history of our independence demonstrated in the political as well as in the socio-economic life of the state exactly what Mao warned against.

But if you "run through" the historical facts, then there is nothing surprising.

In 1848, in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, where after the partition of Poland the lands of western Ukraine entered, a revolution broke out. Poles, Ukrainians and other Slavs at their congress decided to act in close-knit rows against usurpers under the red Polish flags. It did not suit “Avstrovengrov” and they decided to quarrel with the Slavs. How?

And allowed the Galician Ukrainians to have their own national flag. We took our blue-and-yellow flag with the emblem, removed our great emblem and presented it to the Ukrainians. Ukrainian flag became without coat of arms. Moreover, he was immediately presented with a banner symbolizing the unity of Austria (the bottom yellow was taken from the black and yellow Austrian flag) and the Ukrainian people (the top blue was considered the color of Kievan Rus). This flag was personally hand-sewn (or embroidered) by the mother of Emperor Franz Joseph. Ukrainians from this confidence wept out and immediately quarreled with the Poles, and then it seemed to be under this banner that they participated in the suppression of Hungarians who had risen against the empire. By the way, in the land of Lower Austria is still the flag of the administrative unit ... blue and yellow.

By the way, even though our flag has a blue stripe on top, it is customary to say that the flag is “yellow-blue”. It is no coincidence. From 1917, the inverse of the modern flag was the color of the unofficial banner of the Autonomous Ukraine (as part of the Russian state). But the hetman Skoropadsky and the chief ataman Petlyura turned the flag. Changed the arrangement of colors on the flag of the created Ukrainian People's Republic (1918-1920). Is it possible that Pavel Skoropadsky, having thrown off the Central Council, simply turned the flag over to symbolically mark a coup? Anyway, but at the peasant congress, Skoropadsky presented an inverted flag and explained: blue is sky and yellow is fields of wheat.

Ukrainian Cossacks used different banners, although by the middle of the 17th century the main banner was red with the image of Michael the Archangel. The Great Banner (banner) of the Sich was described as follows: on one side, on the red background, the Archangel Michael, on the other — the white cross, the golden sun, the crescent and the stars.

Even the Communists, when the former flag was banned during the formation of the “new Ukraine,” proposed to make the flag of the country crimson Zaporozhye Cossacks with a white Orthodox cross.

But is it possible to make a red banner, even if it was used by Zaporizhzhya Cossacks! No and no again! Only a banner from the Galician nationals ... oh, the Ukrainians! Only from the empress and the hetman. In vain, that his "Ukraine" lasted quite a while.
Follow on ...

Coat of arms

Sorry, but we do not have it!

Those. there is a “small State Emblem of Ukraine” - a golden trident on a blue background.
The trident belongs to the most ancient sacred signs. The image of a trident on the territory of Ukraine was found on the monuments of Tripoli culture (about 6 thousand years ago). The ancient gods were depicted with a trident. He crowned the rods of the Scythian kings. In Kievan Rus the trident spread from the 10th century. as a sign of the grand duke. Have you noticed that the word trident contains the number three? This number was considered magical. Recall that in folk tales it is told about three heroes, three desires and three tasks that the hero must fulfill, about three roads and so on. The trident can be drawn in such a way that it will be an interlacing of the letters cherished for each Ukrainian word "will" ...

All this is very nice, but the Great Emblem of the State is absent, although competitions for creating a sketch and further incarnation of the country's coat of arms were held more than once.
And why then be offended if Ukraine is called "under-state"? Well, what is this state where even all the characters are missing?

Anthem made politically correct

The basis of the national anthem to the music of Mikhail Verbitsky is the text of Pavel Chubinsky’s poem “Ukraine Has Not Already Dead”, written as early as 1862. Although the author himself at that time honestly said that this was a free translation of the Polish insurgents' song “I didn’t play Polish either.” In the new version of the work, only the first verse and chorus of the song remained.

Ukraine has not yet died glory, and will.
Here we are, brother Ukraine, to decrease the share.
Zinnut our vorozhenki, yak dew on sontsі,
Zapanuyem i my, brattya, u svoii storontsi.

Dushu i tilo my polozhym za nashu svobodu,
I pokazhem, shcho my, brattya, kozatskoho rodu!

The fact is that in the original were not quite politically correct words. In particular, "Let's become brothers in the bloody battle from Xiang to Don." Here, vigilant diplomats saw an encroachment on the lands of Russia and Poland. After all, the Don is a river in the European part of Russia, and the Xiang is a river in Eastern Poland.

But although the anthem is very short, but only the choir of them knows and sings it, probably. G. Rope. According to the “position” it is supposed to execute it before each BP meeting. No, some deputies also know, but the whole nation ... except the first two lines. Then he simply punches the chi-chi, because he immediately asks: “Ukraine has not yet died, but it’s still alive.” Yes, and the melody itself is more like a funeral, mournful march, than the solemn main song of the State.

It always amazed me, well, why not take a vigorous, perky march of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks for the country, which rattles in the final gopak of the Virsky ensemble, and always enjoys great success.

Gay, pour some chari,
Schob through the Vinitsya lilosya.
Schob our share of us did not cringe, |
Schob krashte in their living. | (2)

Vdarmo on the ground dashing-jouri
Schob became all cheerful!
Vip'єm for Happiness, Vip'єm for share, |
Vip'єm for all that nice.

Yes, with such a hymn, we would immediately be reunited with all the fraternal Slavic republics !!!!

Special attention should be paid to the Sign of the President

Sign (Colar) of the President - necklace, like a female. Such a badge of distinction is a symbol of power among the rulers of Poland, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Russia, and Moldova. It is believed that The openwork chain of Kolar with an amulet of our President belonged to Hetman Ivan Mazepa. Seven handmade medallions are also attached to this chain. The medallions depict two tridents: golden princely and trident Vladimir the Baptist. And - coats of arms of the Galicia-Volyn principality (it included Ukrainian lands), Grand Duchy of Lithuania (in its time, the principality owned part of the territory of modern Ukraine), Ukrainian People's Republic (the symbol of the first attempt to form an independent Ukraine in the 20th century) and coat of arms of Bohdan Khmelnytsky. The symbol of the Ukrainian Cossack state (“Cossack with a musket”) deserves special attention.

And that's it! There is no trace of a flourishing USSR. Erase it from memory! Failure! All our presidents.

Well, how can a country develop with such symbols? How can people feel under such oppression? What kind of youth can resist such influence?

Banner - from the Hetman Skoropadsky and the Austro-Hungarian Empire
Anthem - as a funeral march
Coat of arms - hmm, absent.
But on the Sign of the President - amulet from the very traitor Mazepa!

And, all the same, the Eternal Fires are still burning on the graves of our soldiers! Not all streets have been renamed! And the memory of the people is not so easy to erase. Past anti-fascist marches confirm this! And although the march was really organized in Kiev by the Party of Regions, in the cities these marches did not go entirely under the slogans that our “elite” would like to see. Few people went with a poster "To Europe without fascists." But "Fascism will not work!", Red banners, portraits of I.V. Stalin - were.
And the power was scared! That same evening, the blessing was “The Day of Remembrance of Political Repressions” on TV remembered everything — the poor Tatars, who were evicted for the 2 of the day, and the poor Greeks, Germans, Poles, who were also brutally removed inland, and even new graves (! ) in the Donbass region, in the mines - well, of course, the damned Stalinist Enkavedists shot the Ukrainian workers and peasants. (And it is the Ukrainians) ....

I have not heard such frantic lies yet. But it, nevertheless, pleases. If the power was frightened by the speeches of its people, then all is not lost. And the people began to regain consciousness after being “hit with a baton on the head”.

If you are not tired yet, I want to draw your attention to the symbols of our “sworn friend” - the USA. We often wonder: “How Americans do not understand what their country is doing!” But nothing surprising! Look at their symbol, at least for the Big Seal.

Its central element is used as the coat of arms of the United States. Unlike the emblems of other countries, the seal of the United States has two sides. On the front side there is a bald eagle, which holds in one paw an arrow (a symbol of war), and in the other an olive branch (a symbol of peace). On the other side of the print, an unfinished pyramid is depicted above which the “all-seeing eye” is located in the triangle.

So the Americans think that only through war can they bring peace and prosperity.

State symbols are valid! Oh, how to act!

CONCLUSION: If we really want to achieve development, prosperity, and the power of our countries, we need to unite and put our symbols in order. Find the harmony that can show the world all the best that was in the past! Just keeping the real, not a fictional story! And this should be done only in popular opinion.

Information sources:
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ogegova/219254
http://ru.wikipedia.org
http://president.gov.by/press10664.html
http://odessa-life.od.ua/article/2912-chto-oznachayut-simvoly-ukrainy
http://uargument.com.ua/politika/perevernut-flag/
http://bcoreanda.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=63

Comments

[politruk419]

And finally, Ukraine!
(My ongoing pain!)
What is there to add?

[Atlon]

The author writes everything correctly, except for one. I would not trust the questions of heraldry to the people. This is a very subtle thing, not suitable for a popular choice. But he would not trust deputies. We have wonderful historians, heraldists who, to the finer points, know the meaning of a particular symbol and their totality. So they need to entrust this business.

[Alexander]

The article is very interesting. But ... As for "Imperial Symbols", I have a different opinion. For me, they are associated with the freedom of our, Russian, people from the oppression of the Tatar-Mongols from the East (the right head of the eagle) and the Teutons, Poles and other evil spirits from the west (the left head, respectively).

[yak69]

Quote: Alexander

from the yoke of the Tatar-Mongols from the East (the right head of an eagle) and the Teutons, Poles and other evil spirits from the west (left head, respectively).

There is no such creature in nature - a two-headed eagle! This is some kind of monster or the result of atomic bombing (God forbid!).
For Russia, a coat of arms was created that best reflects the essence of the country and the aspirations of the people — the coat of arms of the USSR. Everything in this emblem is deeply thought out. It was created by very intelligent people with serious esoteric knowledge. No need to reinvent the wheel, it is necessary to return not only the Coat of Arms of the USSR, but also the Soviet state system (with reasonable corrections and additions).
And there is nothing to argue here, everything is extremely clear and understandable - the capitalist caftan of Russia does not fit! And who wants "freedom and crap" let them go to the prosperous West and not dictate how we live here and what to do.

[Egoza]

Quote: Atlon

We have wonderful historians, heraldists who, to the finer points, know the meaning of this or that symbol and their combination.

Agree. But the people could express their opinion, what they would like to see on the coat of arms of their country. For example, "let it be the coat of arms of the USSR, only the names of the fraternal republics should be replaced with the subjects of the Russian Federation" In the end, just to note, we would like to see a double-headed eagle, or combine some symbols - George the Victorious and the Red Banner ... And let the experts think there. The main thing is that everyone can explain and support the morally given coat of arms. IMHO, of course.

[RUS]

I propose to combine everything in the coat of arms that would suit everyone and the Communists and Democrats, nationalists and monarchists, Yegoza-I correctly caught hot of your thoughts?

[lelikas]

Quote: RUS

would suit everyone and the communists and democrats

How can I imagine an eagle holding a hammer and sickle;)

[Belogor]

Meanwhile, there is just such a coat of arms, an eagle with a sickle and a hammer in its paws. This is the coat of arms of Austria.

[Check]

though he is somehow aggressive)

[Alexander-Tomsk]

With a hammer on the head, a sickle on ... It’s dangerous in general, you’ll take the baton from the Americans, we’ll start wars if we follow the author’s logic.
In general, the article pleased (as much as minus slapped), nostalgia for the USSR and its state is clearly visible. characters. Wake up already 20 years have passed, the young generation (I speak as its representative), although it respects the Soviet flag (Victory Flag), but our imperial with an eagle will not want to change anything. If the author does not correspond to something there, this is his problem.

[Alexander Petrovich]

However, you are not the best representative)

[Egoza]

Quote: lelikas

How can I imagine an eagle holding a hammer and sickle

Until 1917, sickle in Russian city heraldry was found in the arms of the following cities: Krasnoyarsk and Kolyvan (Siberia), Voznesensk, Alexandria, Uman (Ukraine), Lida (Belarus), Shchigry, Serpeisk (Central Russia), Zakatal (Azerbaijan), Kamyshlova ( Ural), that is, in almost all regions of the country. in Swiss and Austrian heraldry, the sickle in the hands of a peasant was considered the emblem of his economic independence and freedom.

[kush62]

Coat of arms of Krasnoyarsk and now with a sickle. The golden lion holds a shovel in his right hand and a sickle in his left.

[Raven]

I'm from Lida but our coat of arms is not so

[Andrew-001]

Maybe this will do

[Egoza]

Quote: Andrew-001

Maybe this will do

I have two hands "FOR"! great option!

[Egoza]

Quote: RUS

Yegoza-I correctly caught hot of your thoughts?

No! Symbols should be created by professionals, but taking into account the opinion of the majority of the people, regardless of their involvement in parties. And, most importantly, that these symbols are in harmony with each other.

[evfrat]

Do you even know whose symbols the Bolsheviks took? Whose symbol is the five-pointed star, hammer and sickle? And what does the whole globe have to do with the coat of arms of the USSR? Are you going to carry another nonsense to the "oppressed" peoples of the world while in agreement with the nationalists and liberals? Wheat ears in a country with ruined agriculture and an extinct village will generally look cool. And the leg, which the eagle once turned into, kills completely with its unclenched claws and bald head instead of crowns. Overheated in the heat?

[Atlon]

Quote: RUS

I propose to combine everything in the coat of arms that would suit everyone and the Communists and Democrats, nationalists and monarchists,

Now it is ... For the communists, the anthem, for the democrats, the flag, for the monarchists, the coat of arms. That's just the author says correctly, this is not entirely true. Changing characters is not scary if the country is changing. The main thing is not to allow porridge, both yours and ours. Need to indicate what's next? Where we are going? otherwise it turns out: "Once a swan, cancer pike ..." (C)

[Egoza]

Quote: Atlon

For the Communists, a hymn, for Democrats a flag, for monarchists a coat of arms.

Have non-partisans remained in Russia? Im what?

[German]

yeah! charged already in the early 90's!

[Joker]

And I like this more.

[Danafxnumx]

will not pass ...
because black and yellow colors resemble the colors of Germany ...

although yes, this is our historical flag ...

[aviamed90]

These are the coat of arms of the Romanov dynasty.

[Humpty]

But not an eagle, not a lion, not a lioness ...
We have one of the most important symbols of the state - the chimney of a yurt in the sun. That's where the real secret is.

[Hleb]

That's where the real secret is

Yes, there are questions)

[Rustiger]

Quote: Humpty

We have one of the most important symbols of the state - the chimney of a yurt in the sun. That's where the real secret is.

As my youngest once said with childlike spontaneity, "Looks like a ball... Shaggy...."

[Scoun]

Quote: Humpty

chimney of a yurt in the sun

Quote: Humpty

That's where the real secret is.

I’ll add a little more to you ... the sun has forty rays ... which symbolize the forty genera of the Kyrgyz. )))

Anthropological studies have shown that greedy mixed with people of Aryan descent.
Aristov and others believed that greedy mixed e dinlinami, and that the confusion itself occurred somewhere near the Altai mountains. Above, we saw that the subgenus of greedy for centuries lived side by side with the Russians, had cities and lived settled. We believe that the mixing of the Alchyn was not with the Dinlin, but with Russians in the southern Russian steppes.

http://www.history.kz/Articles/little.php

so stumbled today .. read .. about dinlinov very interesting.

http://www.zonakz.net/blogs/user/flotilija_svobody/11450.html

[Pinochet000]

Quote: Humpty

That's where the real secret is.

By the way, the yellow (golden) sun on a red (crimson) shield immediately pops up in memory if we are talking about ancient Russia (at least for me).

[paunch]

Author. Ukraine does not seem to have a trident, but a diving "sokil". Or am I wrong?

[Captain Vrungel]

Fundamentally wrong. The diving falcon of the Ruriks. We have a diving will. Sperley, of course, was renamed the trident. Favorite fairy-tale characters. Everywhere three. For three they compose.
Large coat of arms. And why is it needed. We stand at a crossroads. Either lie down to the west, or surrender to the east, after all, an independent and independent people from the state. Where will the next Mazepa lead us?

[alebor]

The falcon is a beautiful late legend. Indeed, the Rurikids used symbols in the form of tridents and two-teeth of various shapes and outlines, and not all of them look like falcons (especially two-teeth). By the way, they can hardly be called their coats of arms. they were not inherited. One of these symbols was made the emblem of Ukraine, and it so happened that if you have a developed imagination, you can see something like a falcon in it, so they announced the "trident" as a falcon as a more beautiful option.
By the way, another curious coincidence, the Caribbean state of Barbados has an almost Ukrainian flag: a trident on a yellow-blue background.

[tan0472]

Quote: alebor

About the falcon is a beautiful late legend. Indeed, the Rurikovich had symbols in the form of tridents and two-prongs of very different shapes and shapes, and not all of them resemble falcons (especially two-prongs).

Doesn't "Rurik" mean "falcon"?

[heathen]

The Rurikovich had a coat of arms - a falcon (looking like a two-pronged). But Ukraine’s coat of arms was inherited from Vladimir. And in this coat of arms, to him, as an illegitimate one from Malki's key keeper, a key was added in the middle.

[stolbovsn]

And the root is the right coat of arms - the falcon.
Falcon is a totem bird of the Slavs.
Chipped - tribes in the time of Herodotus living in the territory of modern Ukraine and Belarus.
(but really - falconer - at the same time, it must be taken into account that in the ancient Greek language in which it was written vowels were not displayed and were silent, and therefore the real sound of this word is distorted in translations of historical records of Herodotus)

[heathen]

Maybe. Especially if you remember that the Arab authors called the Slavs "al-Sakaliba"

[Hudo]

Quote: paunch

Author. Ukraine does not seem to have a trident, but a diving "sokil". Or am I wrong?

It has been more than 20 years since this "sokil", who has moved with his mind, has not come out of an uncontrollable dive.

[Atlon]

Quote: Hudo

Already more than 20 years since this mind-moved "sokil"

What nafig "sokil" ?! Look closely! Some kind of falling pin with monograms ...

[Val_y]

No, this is a fork with a crossed bottle (fat with moonshine)

[Alexander-Tomsk]

The answer to this question is known only to ancient ukry; modern science cannot answer this.
You can order a study on this topic by British scientists, they like to investigate any garbage, you look what grant they will receive.

[waisson]

At a certain time, the trident can turn into an attacking falcon

[paunch]

so initially what was? Falcon or just a trident?

[Avenger711]

Initially, there was a Little Russian province, where they did not hear about the Ukrainians. And 1000 years before that, Kievan Rus.

[Shumer]

Well, the author is right, we have some kind of melancholy anthem, many talk about it, and singing it correctly is problematic - who doesn’t have a musical ear turns out to be a requiem.

[Hudo]

Quote: Shumer

Well, the author is right, we have some kind of melancholy anthem, many talk about it, and singing it correctly is problematic - who doesn’t have a musical ear turns out to be a requiem.

Recently, it became known from the records of the WikiLeaks website that the American ambassador to Ukraine John Tefft disrespectfully expressed his attitude to the Ukrainian anthem in reporting to the US Secretary of State: “It was especially impossible to listen to their anthem. It’s like some kind of torture! They are tightened in chorus: “Now, Ukraine isn’t out of the blue ...”. It seems that you are buried alive. There is a kind of depressing, heartbreaking longing that sometimes it seems that flies die from this howl in the vicinity. To listen to this howl is so unbearable that at times it seemed - it would be easier to die. ”

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Hudo

“It was especially impossible to listen to their hymn. It’s like some kind of torture! They are tightened in chorus: “Now, Ukraine isn’t out of the blue ...”. It seems that you are buried alive. There is a kind of depressing, heartbreaking longing that sometimes it seems that flies die from this howl in the vicinity. To listen to this howl is so unbearable that at times it seemed - it would be easier to die. ”

With respect to WikiLix, but this letter, even in a free translation, is stylistically unusual for the English language and Americans in particular. So vividly you can write only in Russian and Russian.

[Shumer]

I agree with you that the translation is too strange - either written in Russian, or the translator took the liberty of speaking out from the heart.

[huut]

From the submission of the article I listened to the Zaporizhzhya March - well, a masterpiece! Cheerfully, fun, fervently, with the delete! And the musical construction is interesting, not monotonous. Even saved a couple of versions on the computer, sometimes hear.

Let's take it to ourselves, to Russia, eh?) We’ll warm it up, play, they don’t need it anyway, but such a gorgeous thing) Ours is too heavy and clumsy. Oh, purely a bear and the truth ... And that cheerful, young)
Oh, okay, the taste is musical ...

Yes, with such a march, it is truly believed that everything will turn out ...

[Danafxnumx]

we have sovereign, not dancing in the village

[Horde]

Zaporizhzhya March !!! Great, with such marches, only to win!

[Captain Vrungel]

Yes, the Horde! From such a march, the shoulders straighten, the muscles build up, shoulder to shoulder and chest will tear down any obstacle.

[Horde]

Quote: Captain Vrungel

Yes, the Horde! From such a march, the shoulders straighten, the muscles build up, shoulder to shoulder and chest will tear down any obstacle.

that's why the march causes such a surge of strength and feelings and it will never be a hymn to our states. Thank you very much for reminding us that we have such a strong incentive.
pay attention to the Cossacks go with banners on which crosses and crescents, traditional history is unlikely to be able to clearly explain where the Orthodox army comes from Islamic symbolism? I will explain briefly - Crescent IMPERIAL SYMBOL, Cossacks - IMPERIAL TROOPS.

[Captain Vrungel]

Excellent material was prepared by Egoza. Thank you very much Elena for your work.

[aviamed90]

In fact, after the well-known events, the Zaporozhye Cossacks settled in Russia. The Kuban army was created by them.

[Apollo]

Quote: Shumer

Well, the author is right, we have some kind of melancholy anthem, many talk about it, and singing it correctly is problematic - who doesn’t have a musical ear turns out to be a requiem.

did not notice anything problematic.

[MG42]

Quote: Apollon

did not notice anything problematic.

This performance is an unofficial singer singer Ponomarev must be listened to by the choir. Ropes then, they in the Rada sing at all the opening sessions ...
there by the way there are differences in words ...
<tell us brother Ukrainians> here, but in another version <tell us brothers molodiya> (of)
Ponomarev now doesn’t particularly flash on TV, he was respected by Yushchenko.
This artist >>> also had a company that did the full dubbing even grew. films, for example, 2 actors voice acting in Ukrainian Now they’re not even going beyond the credits.

[MG42]

I’d better listen once more Union indestructible, as a balm for the soul ..
Union of the indestructible republics free
Great Russia forever.
Long live the people's will
A single, mighty Soviet Union!

[Kaa]

Quote: Apollon

, we have some kind of sad anthem

Quote: MG42

This execution is unofficial.

The official performance is ... ironic: "Has Ukraine not died yet? Neither glory, nor will? Shche, we brothers, Ukrainians, share a share of your charm! How and when - not explained So everyone thinks ... in his own way

[MG42]

Quote: Kaa

Why didn’t Ukraine die?

Greetings, Kaa! Here the principle “how do you call a yacht so it will float.” Ukrainian anthem. = this is <bad karma> with future tense verbs and this first line ...

[MG42]

Yes, someone specifically does not like the lines from the anthem of the USSR ... Kaa, so I was thinking about this topic, >>> maybe if the first line of Ukrainian. The anthem was not "Ukraine has not yet died", but, for example, "Will Ukraine live" or there "Do you live in Ukraine?" what do you think? when you listen to this dreary piece, the song "black raven" is recalled ...

[MG42]

The official original text of the anthem of Ukraine

“Now Ukraine has not died and glory, and will,

Shche nam, brattya molodiyi, usmikhnetsya dolya.

Zinnut our vorozhenki, yak dew on sontsi.

Zapanuyem i my, brattya, u svoii storontsi.

Chorus:

Dushu i tilo my polozhym za nashu svobodu,

"We will show, by our means, brother, Cossack family."

=== Fiction translation into Russian ===

Ukraine is still alive and glory, and the will,

Still, young brothers, the proportion smiles.

Our misfortunes will disappear, like frost in the sun.

Let us live in happiness in the new Ukraine!

Chorus:

Soul and body we will lay for our freedom

And we show that we, brothers, are Cossack family.
http://gimn.kuda.ua/813
In principle, the 2nd option is thin. the translation sounds preferable, if you remove the verbs in the future tense, then brighten up the picture ...

[Avenger711]

Shche did not die Ukraine

Well, it was taken from pshek. "Poland has not yet died ..." and then a lot of pathological delirium.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гимн_Польши

[Hudo]

Quote: Avenger711

Shche did not die Ukraine

Well, it was taken from pshek. "Poland has not yet died ..." and then a lot of pathological delirium.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Гимн_Польши

Programmed defeat
Imagine a bank with the motto: "We are not bankrupt yet!" - what awaits it? That's right - bankruptcy, because no one in their right mind will carry money to such a bank.

Imagine a state that has as its motto the phrase: "We are not dead yet!" ...

"Ukraine has not died yet"
"Polska has not yet perished"
Two fruits of one despair. Despair, when the heart is already confident in defeat, but the mind cannot agree with this ..., or vice versa.

Subconscious confidence in defeat generates hopelessly storing exclamations-spells, and they, in turn, verbally postulate a hopeless situation

[Curculum]

Quote: Hudo

Subconscious confidence in defeat generates hopelessly storing exclamations-spells, and they, in turn, verbally postulate a hopeless situation

+ You, frankly, are a giant of phraseological units!

[MG42]

Quote: Hudo

Subconscious confidence in defeat generates hopelessly storing exclamations-spells, and they, in turn, verbally postulate a hopeless situation

In ukr. the hymn has a lot of verbs in the future tense, we will zgynyt, we will show, etc. >>> hope and wait - the whole life is ahead, dreaming is not harmful, but it is harmful not to dream.

[Standard Oil]

The Soviet flag is better than all three taken together, I’m not a communist or even a socialist, it’s so simple in appearance, everything seems simple, but with taste. Why was it asked to change the flag? Let Ukraine and Belarus choose whatever their business is for themselves, but why should we? To amuse yourself with imperial pride? But it seems sorry for masturbation.

[RUS]

You talk about the state flag as about clothes - "simple and tasteful", is that how you evaluate all the symbolism? The return of the primordial symbols of Russia is historical justice, but replacing them with Soviet symbols in the 17th is the masturbation of the young Soviet regime.

[Standard Oil]

Lord, if you are, save Russia from idiots.

[Joker]

Boris, you have a nickname and an interesting picture. Like the Rockefellers?

[Standard Oil]

Somehow I came across D. Ergin's book "Production, the Worldwide History of the Fight for Oil", it describes in some detail the history of the oil industry from its inception to the present day, and as it turned out almost from the very beginning it was closely intertwined with politics. In particular, the story of the oil company Standard Oil and Rockefeller as its founder is told, of course, as D.A. Medvedev said, he is not a ruble to please everyone, but deserves a certain respect. Well, as for me, in the same America, there is a lot that we would it is necessary to learn, but it is not necessary to bring it to the point of absurdity, as in the 90s. And by the way, an interesting book I highly recommend

[Atlon]

Quote: Standard Oil

Standard Oil and Rockefeller as its founder, of course, as D.A. Medvedev said, it’s not the ruble to please everyone, but it deserves some respect

This is masturbation! With your logic, you can also have a swastika on your avatar ... and Hitler deserves "a certain respect" as a historical character and undoubtedly a strong personality, doesn't he?

[Standard Oil]

Well, Rockefeller has already been equated with Hitler. Notice that about Hitler this is your statement, and guessing what I had in mind before the second coming, they say you can also mean Hitler, can Gandhi or you can also Vasya the locksmith from the next entrance, he is also a strong personality . As for Hitler, I’ll say right away that I relate exclusively negatively to this historical character.

[Atlon]

Quote: Standard Oil

Well, Rockefeller has been equated to Hitler.

They have a significant difference ... Hitler destroyed Jews who were not his compatriots, not co-religionists, not consanguineous. Rockefeller also destroyed the Jews ... True, indirectly, by the hands of Hitler ... So who is the biggest monster?

Quote: Standard Oil

As for Hitler, I’ll say right away that I relate exclusively negatively to this historical character.

So do I. However, a mediocrity and a former corporal could hardly become the "father of the nation." However, there are other opinions ... In particular, it was the Jews (the richest Jews) and among them (not in the last place) your beloved Rockefeller who were strenuously leading Hitler to power! So whatever you say ... But Hitler is either an outstanding personality or a Jewish project. I am leaning towards the second. And the fact that he is a negative character does not detract from his "greatness". Satan is also a negative character, but also great, no doubt!

[Standard Oil]

The conversation is futile because it is unproven, you claim that the Jews and Rockefeller brought Hitler to power, and prove it. But I’ll tell you that the aliens brought Hitler to power, prove that it’s not so.

[Reserve buildbat]

The symbols of the USSR are nevertheless closer to me. Although we in the army were forced to learn the anthem of the Russian Federation, I still don’t remember its text and I only sing the anthem of the USSR. And about the anthem of the Russian Federation I heard the opinion: "They took the anthem of the USSR, removed Lenin and the party from there, replacing it with something incomprehensible - and they sing"

[Atlon]

Quote: Stroibat stock

Although we were forced to study the Russian national anthem in the army

And I know the anthem and REMEMBER from school. Class from the third. FIRST text learned and sung in singing lessons. By the way, I don't see anything wrong with that! And about "forced" ... If a person does not have enough intelligence to understand that he SHOULD know the anthem of his country, then it is not a sin to force! The main army principle: "If you can't - we'll teach! If you don't want to, we'll force you!"

[Nomad]

“Now, Ukraine isn’t free ...”.
By the way, according to psychology, affirmations (that is, positive attitudes for self-hypnosis) should in no case contain negation. For example, "I am healthy", not "I am not sick". So she's not dead yet - this is an example of an unsuccessful, wrong affirmation.

[Atlon]

Quote: Nomad

This is an example of unsuccessful, incorrect affirmation.

Absolutely right! In addition, all installations should be in the PRESENT time, and not in the past or in the future!

[Scoun]

The Russian Empire is about to enslave everyone again!

Let this emblem be beautiful, but it DOES NOT correspond to the aspirations of Russia and the people! IMHO.

Russia is our sacred state
Russia is our favorite country.
Mighty will great glory
Your heritage for all time!
Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
The brotherly peoples of the union age-old,

It seems to me that it is quite consistent, and Belarus and Ukraine are painfully close Brothers.
Kievan Rus.

[Egoza]

Quote: Scoun

It seems to me that it is quite consistent, and Belarus and Ukraine are painfully close Brothers.

So that's just the point. The anthem is wonderful! Indeed, "corresponds", but the imperial two-headed eagle with such a hymn ... somehow not very much, in my opinion.

[alebor]

It is very disappointing that the efforts of Russophobia removed from this wonderful anthem a mention of Great Russia - the words that were at the beginning of the previous, Soviet anthem.

[RUS]

Fidget do not touch our great historical emblem!

[Egoza]

Quote: RUS

DO NOT TOUCH OUR Great Historical Coat of Arms!

I do not touch1 I consider everything and express my personal opinion. Other forum users, I hope they will express it too.

[Scoun]

Quote: Egoza

imperial double-headed eagle with such a hymn ... somehow not very

as it’s not very, this is this coat of arms, but on coins where the Bank of the Russian Federation is there)))

[Scoun]

On the coin above is the Bank of Russia and the coat of arms, if I am not mistaken, "kerenka" from the interim government and on this one is the Russian Federation. So really .. symbols are symbols .. and CB + kerenka ... symptomatic.

[RUS]

On the coins, the double-headed eagles are the emblem of the Bank of Russia, not the "kerenka", and certainly not the modern state emblem.

[Apollo]

Quote: Scoun

It seems to me quite consistent, and Belarus

anthem of Belarus

[Egoza]

I would also like to add the following. In the United States, already from kindergarten, such an exercise is being introduced: children draw "their own personal coat of arms and flag", i.e. what is their essence, what is most dear to them, etc. Naturally, kids draw a family, a dog, a car, well, who appreciates what. BUT then all their drawings are placed on the wall under the huge US flag. "Here are the children! Everyone with their little flags is under the protection of our big flag. The flag of our country!" So the grown-up children then strive to drive all the "little ones" under the flag of their country and sincerely do not understand why someone is resisting. After all, their flag "protects" everyone. Further, in almost every class at school this flag is displayed and the day of the class begins with the singing of the anthem. (We also tried to do something like that, but you must admit that it is one thing when the whole school is standing in the courtyard, and who sings the anthem, who is not. And another thing is when there is singing in the classroom) And everyone will explain to you, what the stripes and stars mean.
But that’s what the Americans don’t take into account - the stars are far from the Earth, because the Americans, as it were, are not from this world, and they don’t understand what the people of the Earth really want. And they forget that the stars can also go out (or they can be put out)

[Skavron]

But the idea is essentially good.
I wonder which of today's students know the words of the anthem of their country?
I still remember the anthem of the USSR, because sang constantly in schools.
and about the anthem of Ukraine ... yes ... insanity is here.
but I like the coat of arms, simply and tastefully. Nothing extra.
and to someone he "reminds a pin" (

[RUS]

We have a double-headed eagle since the time of the Moscow Principality, and what does the Empire have to do with it? This is our historical emblem which is not one hundred years old.

[politruk419]

The double-headed Eagle on the coat of arms of Russia (Russia) was given to us by Sophia Paleolog, the wife of Vladimir Monomakh. (If I was not mistaken) And he is very logical in the sense of the continuity of the state-historical heritage of Moscow from Constantinople.

[aviamed90]

politruk419

The double-headed eagle was also present on the coins of the Golden Horde. So what?

[politruk419]

Quote: aviamed90

The double-headed eagle was also present on the coins of the Golden Horde. So what?

And nothing. And nothing that the Grand Duchy of Moscow (and not it alone) was part of the Golden Horde? What's the catch?

[igordok]

Question to the Ukrainians and especially Egoze. How true is the idea of ​​the appearance of a black-yellow flag in the war with Sweden 1700-1721. Say Mazepa requested the right to use the pennant of the Swedish cavalry (blue-yellow) for his Cossacks.

[Egoza]

Quote: igordok

Say Mazepa requested the right to use the pennant of the Swedish cavalry (blue-yellow) for his Cossacks.

No. These are just rumors. It may have been used in battle, but when the Swedes fled, their nationally irresponsible people tore their flags into foot wraps.
The "mother" of our flag was the Austrian Empress Sophia.
"After Galicia distinguished itself with unprecedented loyalty to the crown during the revolutionary events that shook the Austrian Empire, the" Head Ruska Rada "turned to the sovereign with a request to approve the national flag of the province's population." Note! Ruska is glad! Then there was no such nationality "Ukrainian"

[LINX]

Fidget, what nonsense, such blunders due to poverty of mind or just trolling?
Blue-yellow colors in Ukraine have been present since Kievan Rus.
Look at the Cossack banners of the 15-16 centuries - half of them are yellow-blue in different variations, the rest are red-raspberry.
Look at the coats of arms of Ukrainian lands as part of the Russian Federation, rowing of the Old Russian principalities ...

Even Alexander 1 in 1801, the Black Sea Cossack army (recruited mainly from the Cossacks) granted them blue-yellow flags (given the historical use of the Cossacks)

flag of the Cossacks of the times of Hetman

What Sofia ... insanity

Flag of Lviv land in the Battle of Grundwal

Flag of the Galicia-Volyn Principality

[Egoza]

Quote: LINX

Blue-yellow colors in Ukraine

Quote: LINX

Cossack banners of the 15-16 centuries - half of them are yellow-blue in different variations, the rest are red-raspberry.

Don't you notice the contradictions yourself? Namely YELTO_BLUE banners and red-crimson ones, which can be easily seen by looking at the painting by I. Repin "The Cossacks are writing a letter to the Turkish Sultan." And Repin was very accurate in historical details! But not BLUE-YELLOW - the current flag. But the current flag was just served as a model for the one presented by Empress Sofia. The colors are there, but in what order there is a big difference.

[LINX]

The large coat of arms of Ukraine approved by the Cabinet of Ministers but not accepted by BP. Accepted project

Before its final adoption, without any problems, a small

the coat of arms of the Russian Federation has Byzantine roots and originally symbolized a sacrificial animal cut in half (not only double-headed eagles were used in Byzantine heraldry).

And why not a single word about the origin of the tricolor of the Russian Federation)))?

[Egoza]

Quote: LINX

The large coat of arms of Ukraine approved by the Cabinet of Ministers but not accepted by BP. Accepted project

That's it. There is "on paper", but there is no official representation at all levels; actually not. I'm not talking about the international level, at least the Ukrainians themselves recognize the coat of arms of their country? "Small coat of arms" is used, but I pay attention to the influence of the country's symbols! With a "small" coat of arms, the young country will remain "small", there will be no growth.

[alebor]

I will not be surprised if it turns out that the author of this article at home has furniture arranged according to Feng Shui.

[Egoza]

Quote: alebor

the author of this article at home has furniture arranged in Feng Shui

That's what is not, that is not! Sheer "creative mess"!

[Algor73]

Well, if you look, then only in Belarus more or less the coat of arms symbolizes something, something common, unifying. Neither in Russia, with its eagles, nor in Ukraine, with the trident, do I see precisely the statehood of the people. Moreover, the states are still quite young. However, one can argue and argue about symbols. But, it seems to me that state symbols are so important for the development of a country as Munchausen to fly to the moon. The main thing is how and who rules the country, how the people live.

[VDV 80-82]

stupid article! why did the author decide that the citizens of Russia do not want the revival of the Empire ??? in my opinion the exact opposite! study the topic and opinion polls ...

[Skavron]

Who are you going to bring the first under the imperial hand?

[Aucraig]

Belarus and Armenia. Ukraine will creep in a couple of years. And there will be no need to "bring".

[Curculum]

Quote: Skavron

Who are you going to bring the first under the imperial hand?

Why are you interested in?

[Alexander-Tomsk]

Let's start from the Baltic states, here it will be a screech all over the world! Immediately everyone will forget about the Middle East.

[Curculum]

Quote: Alexander-Tomsk

Let's start from the Baltic states

Do you think that they are of interest to someone? In the modern world order - hardly.

[Torang]

Balts in the west and stocked up for screeching, they are already screaming in general.

[Curculum]

Quote: Torang

Balts in the west and stocked up for screeching, they are already screaming in general.

+ Forced to agree.

[Gardamir]

Personally, I am for the return of the red flag. And it’s just unpleasant when the flag is called a tricolor. They said at least tricolor.

[RUS]

Tricolor - three colors, what's unpleasant? The word flag is also not a Russian word, by the way, do you propose to name the flag, banner or banner?

[Atlon]

Quote: RUS

propose to name the flag, banner or banner?

You are right, the flag is not a Russian word. However, the flag, banner and banner are not synonyms at all!
Flag is a symbol
A banner is a banner
Banner is an affiliation.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Gardamir

They said at least tricolor.

Earlier there were also definitions in the entrance - "sibek" and "besik". I propose to think - what word corresponded to the Russian flag and what French.

[Skavron]

Of course, I could be wrong, but the flag of the Russian Empire was black-yellow-white, and red-white-blue was the flag of Russian merchant ships.

[RUS]

You're wrong.

[Skavron]

So a dozen sites on the history of Russia and wikis also - they lie!

[Joker]

Yellow is the flag of the empire, and our current flag first appears in 1700 and it was the army banner, then it became a trade flag, then the Russian national flag. Here the devil himself will break his leg, I personally do not like the flag. Somehow the USSR flag is closer to me, purely if we evaluate the beauty, I like the RI flag, but it is ripped off from German, so I would probably return the flag of the USSR, and on the coat of arms there would be a bear, which is more suitable for our population, and indeed way of life In general, we have a very long history, so you can delve and find a lot of interesting things, but this is more likely to heraldic experts, etc. I do not understand this question at all.

[RUS]

And you ask the population of the national republic they want a Russian bear on the coat of arms? I offer a zoo on the coat of arms: Chechen wolf, Russian brown bear, Tatar leopard, mountain eagle (Caucasus), horse, etc.

[Joker]

So we will vote democratically

[Danafxnumx]

we have 80% of the population Russian ...
whom we say will be

[Danafxnumx]

no, it’s not mistaken ...

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

But what about the Russian Federation, is it not an empire ?!

[Volkhov]

The article raises an important issue, only the text is about nothing with good pictures.
Most state symbols express the achievements of ancient terrestrial civilization before taking control.
- ornament of Belarus - scheme of the field picture of synthesis in converging waves
- double-headed eagle - the lines of force of the Earth's magnetic field and the internal structure, the horseman defeating the dragon - the fight against comets
- Ukrainian trident - section of a plasma torch, type of beam weapon
- Tuvan horses - vortex type aircraft
- US Pyramid - Passive Anti-Launcher
Combined together, these technologies give a powerful civilization, but during the capture the principle of "divide and conquer" was applied and knowledge remained only on the emblems. It's like a disassembled car. Apparently the invaders are wondering if people are able to see what is in front of their eyes.
All that’s business is to unite and go to the stars, but for now the show-off is more expensive.

[Captain45]

Quote: RUS

The word flag is also not a Russian word, by the way, do you propose to name the flag, banner or banner?

"The banner, there is a holy banner ... Because you do not spare your belly ... The sentry about the sovereign should not give a rifle to anyone .." Novikov-Priboy, story "Literature". Regarding the double-headed eagle, as the coat of arms of Russia, if my memory serves me correctly, during the reign of Ivan the Third, after his marriage to Sophia Palaeologus, who was the daughter of the Byzantine emperor. Thus, by adopting the coat of arms of Byzantium, Ivan emphasized that Russia is the heiress of the Byzantine Christian traditions spreading to the West and the East. I have met approximately the same interpretation of the two-headed eagle in historical delights on this topic. And for the rest, Elena raised an interesting topic, as they say, "How do you call a yacht, so it will float," + "And about the flags: the black-yellow-white flag was adopted as the state flag under Alexander II, it was an inverted copy of the flag of Austria-Hungary, and the white-blue-red flag was introduced by Peter the Great after a visit to Holland and is an inverted copy Dutch, for a long time it was the flag of the merchant fleet, and the official state flag was black-yellow-white, by the end of the 19th century it remained the official flag of the kingdom of the Romanov family, but at the state level it was white-blue-red. That's something like this, if I'm wrong, correct.

[RUS]

If you flip the Dutch flag, the Russian flag does not work. But if you turn the Serbian, then there will be our tricolor, by the way the Serbs did so and turned our flag in the 19th century, and to this day it is their state. The arrangement of the color of the stripes on our flag has no analogues.

[Vital 33]

I have learned the anthem of Ukraine in the army, and I still remember clearly. Nothing complicated there, and it’s short in general ... A person who can’t learn and remember his own anthem, or does it on purpose, or a clinical id .. from (or didn’t serve .. :)) The anthem is normal for me, ( considering when it was written), music and words are solemnly gloomy, but showing the belligerent spirit of people ready to fight for their country ... something like that)))

[Vital 33]

Though tell me what the minus is?))) For the fact that I remember the anthem, or for the fact that I served)))

[Igarr]

For - ".... something like this))) .."
Although the minus is not mine.
if we speak, then we affirm.
And do not doubt it.
So?
Or not?

[Vital 33]

I don’t doubt it, it's just my personal feelings, not a paradigm ...

[tixon444]

The emblem of any state can be the Serpent Gorynych. Remember a folk tale? He is the state. About three heads: executive, legislative and judicial branches. There is a fourth power - the media - the tail of the Serpent. The army and the police are paws.

[seller trucks]

"The sign (kolar) of the President is a necklace, similar to a woman's. This insignia is a symbol of power."

Looking at these beads, I remembered another symbol of Ukraine "Order of St. Stanislav", the Masonic Order of the SS, who does not remember, in 2003 a huge scandal broke out that about 300 top leaders of the state are members of the Order, the most interesting thing is that no one is ashamed of this list of cavaliers : http://ioss.org.ua/about/prior/2008/06/16/313.html

[Captain45]

Quote: RUS

If you flip the Dutch flag, the Russian flag does not work.

I agree, a little hurried, the colors of the Netherlands flag red-white-blue, were used by Peter when creating the flag for Russian merchant ships with a different order: white-blue-red

[bilgesez]

The anthem is wonderful, the coat of arms is wonderful, but the flag is Vlasov, fascist. You need to change the flag.

[seller trucks]

nothing needs to be changed, Vlasov's army fought under the flags and standards of Hitler's Germany, the history of the "tricolor" comes from Alexey Mikhailovich Romanov, and Vlasov had a rag

[bilgesez]

Not a rag, but a Romanov flag. And with this flag Russia did not win a single victory. And Vlasov completely overturned him.

[seller trucks]

let’s so, what is the relation of Grand Duke A.M. Romanov has a collaborator Vlasov

[RUS]

The flag is "not to blame" that the Vlasovites used it.
Moreover, under this flag there have been many great victories in the entire centuries-old history of the flag.

[Atlon]

Quote: bilgesez

but the flag is Vlasov, fascist. You need to change the flag.

Do not say nonsense! Hitler, for example, used the swastika, which is now worldwide banned! And by the way, this is the oldest sacred symbol! The ancient Slavs were used very often, though it is wrapped in the other direction. Look at the Indian ornaments, Buddhist, swastika, the most common symbol! The fact that Hitler was oppressed by the ancient symbol of the swastika is not to blame! So Vlasov used the flag, which was long before him!
By the way, doesn’t it bother you that the flags of Nazi Germany are the same red as the USSR?

[Horde]

wrapped in different ways, and so, and so the attire of the Slav

even before the war, such ornaments existed in the north

[bilgesez]

Such ornaments exist for several thousand years.

[rereture]

Quote: Atlon

The ancient Slavs were used very often, though it is wrapped in the other direction.

and called Kolovrat) Father is engaged in treasure hunting, finds many rings with such a sign.)

[bilgesez]

The duplicity of the authorities confuses me. In my city, a criminal case was opened against a young girl for portraying a swastika on an economic package, moreover, a Slavic eight-ray swastika. It turns out that Slavic symbols cannot be used, but European symbols (colors of the Dutch flag), treacherous, can be used.

[Apollo]

Bravo Elena!

excellent article, but one gap still exists, namely, the flags and symbols of the former other allies of the former republic are not displayed. I will answer for Azerbaijan.

The upper strip of the flag of the Republic of Azerbaijan is blue. This color means glory, honor, fidelity, sincerity. For Azerbaijan, this is the color of the ancient Khazar (Caspian Sea).
The middle bar is red. This is right, strength, courage, love, courage. The red color of the Azerbaijani flag is a memory of the heroic struggle of the people led by Babek against the yoke of the invaders. This is the color of revolution, a victorious war. It is the color of fire and wheat grains.
The green bar at the bottom of the flag is freedom, joy (jubilation), hope, health. Green is a favorite color of the Azerbaijani people. It is present in the names of the lakes of Azerbaijan, it symbolizes spring, the arrival of Novruz, it recalls the semeni - the green circle of hope.
There is a crescent in the middle of the red stripe. For many years he was mercilessly exterminated from the heraldry of Azerbaijan. It was deciphered as "a religious symbol, alien to all ideological consciousness and the meaning of secular emblems." The crescent moon is one of the oldest symbols, widespread mainly among the peoples of Asia, where the cult of the moon existed during pagan times. By the way, pre-Christian Caucasian Albania was famous for its temple structures dedicated to this cult, as evidenced by Strabo.

The eight-pointed star, located to the right of the crescent moon, also does not carry any "religious significance." These are, in fact, two four-pointed stars. The eight-pointed star in Azerbaijani mythology denoted Sirius - the star of all travelers, a luminary organizing great space and time. There is nothing mystical in the symbolism of the Azerbaijani flag: no hidden meanings, no Masonic secrets, no alien signs. It is closely intertwined with universal human symbols of goodness, hope, glory and national pride for their land, for their native land. The eight-pointed star and its semantic synonyms Simurg and Novruz are bright symbols of the spiritual culture of ancient Azerbaijan. This can be confirmed by the adoption by the cultures of other peoples of the philosophy and symbolic symbol adopted by the ancestors of Azerbaijanis, in particular the most ancient astral symbol of the grace of the gods - the eight-pointed star and the philosophy of the universe.
The eight-pointed star, including in the radiant-petal and other stylized form, is found in Azerbaijani carpets cultivated from the beginning of the 1st millennium BC, national embroideries, jewelry and other objects of national decorative and applied art. Following the law of continuity of cultural heritage, the eight-pointed star has become, over time, the national symbol of Azerbaijan, embodied in the coat of arms and national flag of the republic.

Eightfold symbolism was common in the ancient civilizations of the East and in the ancient world - in Sumer, Assyria and Babylon, Media and Iran, India and Palestine, Greece and Rome, England and Russia. It is found in royal cylindrical seals, on palace bas-reliefs and in architectural solutions, on boundary stones and in jewelry. In the history of the culture of mankind, an eight-pointed star, as a divine astral symbol, is first found on royal cylindrical seals, royal bas-reliefs and in jewelry of Sumer, Assyria and Babylon, dating to the end of IV - the beginning of the III millennium BC.

So the eight-pointed star - the most important astral symbol of the goodwill of the gods of Sumer - the Mesopotamian civilization, has acquired a new philosophical significance in the culture of Zoroastrianism, as the seven stages and foundations of the universe, followed by the eighth stage - a new eternal life of righteous people.

[Apollo]

Baku is the land of lights

[Apollo]

my city, my symbol

[Apollo]

Anthem of Azerbaijan

[Mhpv]

It seems to me that Captain Vrungel's song (by the way "Kievnauchfilm") is well suited to this topic:
"In the blue sea, as in a pharmacy,
Everything has an essence and weight -
Ship like a man
The name is desperately needed.
You knowingly give a name
I will tell you in advance:
What do you call a yacht
So she will swim!
What do you call a yacht
So she will swim!

Let the youths still sailors
Schooner flimsy in appearance -
Call it "Albatross"
And she is already flying.
And call it "Trough" -
Do not get away from trouble:
This schooner and in the swamp
Chokes on water.
This schooner and in the swamp
He's gushing on water. "

[Apollo]

Infographics, the history of the national flag of Russia.

[cool.ya-nikola]

Quote: Apollon

Bravo Elena!

Totally - FOR! I can only add, for the article, thanks, Elena! I really hope that our countries will nevertheless be one country! Sooner or later, common sense must defeat the "Galician" ambitions!

[Ataman]

In Dolukashensk times, the coat of arms and flag of Belarus looked like this. But dad said: "Why do we need this horse with a sword and where is he waving them?" And he returned the Soviet coat of arms. Now, if he showed figs both to the east and to the west, then he probably would have left it.

[knn54]

Japan and France also do not have their own coat of arms (the so-called "large")!
The colors of the Russian flag coincide with the pan-Slavic colors that appear in the flags of many Slavic states of Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Montenegro and Bulgaria - with the replacement of blue with green (alarm bell, because blue is the color of the Virgin).
On the photo is the national flag of all Slavs, which appeared at the Pan-Slavic congress in Prague in 1848.
PS - The fact is that in the original there were not quite politically correct words. In particular…
“Oh, Bogdan, Bogdan, our glorious hetman, having handed out Ukraine to Mos ... fuck us?”

[MG42]

The flag of the Netherlands (Holland) does not resemble anything?

[RUS]

The flag of the Netherlands resembles the flag of the Netherlands.

[MG42]

Quote: RUS

reminds a flag of the Netherlands

toothpaste-colored <joke>

[Vtel]

"Everything was confused in the Oblonskys' house." We also have five-pointed stars - pentagrams on the Kremlin towers and the imperial flag, St. Petersburg, and the Leningrad region, Yekaterinburg, and the Sverdlovsk region - one of those involved in the murder of the Tsar's Family. In general, a complete venigret as in our power, each ... a pair.

[lexe]

The whole history of Russia is a rebirth from the ashes. I propose in the form of a coat of arms - Russian KUKISH!) - for the transition period, so to speak))). So that the enemies would not hope. Well, and then it will be necessary to look ..- our worldview is deepest. About militancy, the quieter and calmer our anthem will be, the worse it will be for our enemies. After all, it’s like a quiet pool and the devil as)))

[Rrv]

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[Vadzja]

Author +++ per article.

Compare: the anthem of the Ukrainian SSR "Live Ukraine is beautiful and strong ..."
the current anthem "Ukraine has not died yet ..."

As they say, comments are superfluous.

[Hudo]

Quote: Vadzja

Author +++ per article.

Compare: the anthem of the Ukrainian SSR "Live Ukraine is beautiful and strong ..."
the current anthem "Ukraine has not died yet ..."

As they say, comments are superfluous.

I agree with you! What kind of music, if not "Schenevmerlu" can offer Galitsai - a mutant of the Austro-Polish selection.
"Khodyty on pnoyivka" - according to one of the Galitsai Svidomites, during the Austro-Polish domination in Galicia, local aborigines, in the absence of even a primitive village toilet due to extreme poverty, "snake buly" to relieve themselves in a fragile shed (together with livestock ). * they wiped them with a finger.
What are the morals, such is the music.

[Old warrior]

Quote: Volkhov

The article raises an important issue, only the text is about nothing with good pictures.
Most state symbols express the achievements of ancient terrestrial civilization before taking control.
- ornament of Belarus - scheme of the field picture of synthesis in converging waves
- double-headed eagle - the lines of force of the Earth's magnetic field and the internal structure, the horseman defeating the dragon - the fight against comets
- Ukrainian trident - section of a plasma torch, type of beam weapon
- Tuvan horses - vortex type aircraft
- US Pyramid - Passive Anti-Launcher
Combined together, these technologies give a powerful civilization, but during the capture the principle of "divide and conquer" was applied and knowledge remained only on the emblems. It's like a disassembled car. Apparently the invaders are wondering if people are able to see what is in front of their eyes.
All that’s business is to unite and go to the stars, but for now the show-off is more expensive.

Powerfully pushed ...

[MG42]

To author +
Regarding the color of state. the flag of Ukraine, when the Swedes arrived in Kiev at Euro 2012, find the difference
here are the Swedes fans resting on Khreshchatyk >>>
And ukrainian fans are higher

As for the anthem >>> the anthem of the USSR sounds better, more powerful.

[Egoza]

Why are there flags! We now have a Blue-and-yellow cloth in our hand is not telling anyone about anything. Party banners became political and expressing their position. For the third year now, they have been confidently crowding out the state flag into the corners of offices and on the roofs of institutions. Not surprisingly, some are beginning to forget exactly how he looks ...
And Viktor Yanukovych, for example, appeared in the heat of political activity on the cover of his book “And the Year in Power” against the background of an inverted flag, and neither the author, nor the designer, nor the editor noticed this.

[ia-ai00]

MMMMMMMMDaaaaaa ..........

[MG42]

Here is this book of Yanukovych with an inverted state. flag Everywhere solid kinolyapy.

[MG42]

Quote: Egoza

Viktor Yanukovych, for example, appeared in the heat of political activity on the cover of his book “And the Year in Power” against the background of an inverted flag, and neither the author, nor the designer, nor the editor noticed this.

The first copies of Viktor Yanukovych's widely publicized book Opportunity Ukraine have appeared in Ukraine. After reviewing the president's literary work, Ukrainska Pravda came to a shocking conclusion.

It turns out, Yanukovych’s book is commonplace plagiarism, where not only the thoughts of others were stated under the president’s signature, but also whole paragraphs were compiled from texts that had previously been signed by other persons, from the odious journalist Vyacheslav Pikhovshek to the arrested official Vasily Volga. [...]
http://www.rospres.com/hearsay/9507/

[Egoza]

Quote: MG42

Yanukovych’s book is trivial plagiarism,

But he received a fee for it in tens of millions! Well, "thoughts are" golden "!

[Hudo]

Quote: Egoza

And Viktor Yanukovych, for example, appeared in the heat of political activity on the cover of his book “And the year in power” against the background of an inverted flag, and neither the author, nor the designer, nor the editor noticed it

I have great doubts that the tongue-tied Yanukovych did not write this book, but even that he READED it. This is the "creation" of his talking head of the gangster Ganna Herman, the same one that during an Internet chat on Korrespondent.net Herman, answering readers' questions, says: "I grew up on the traditions of the UPA and the legend about the UPA, on insurgent songs."

[MG42]

Quote: Hudo

I have great doubts that the tongue-tied Yanukovych did not write this book, but even that he READ it.

Why is he talking aboutFfYesor as he wrote in his profile.

[Hudo]

Here is a link who is Ganna German - the talking head of Yanukovych without cuts.
http://hazar.kiev.ua/?p=2536

[nnz226]

Actually, there is another more ancient version about the origin of the "state ensign" of the Square. When the traitor Mazepa fled to the Swedish king Charles the 12th (1708-09), he brought with him a certain number of Cossacks. And since the latter dressed in a lot, not like soldiers of regular armies, in order to distinguish Cossacks dressed in different colors, but loyal to the Swedes, from the same differently dressed, but loyal to Peter, pennants or badges with flowers were issued for the peaks of the "Swedish" Cossacks the Swedish flag, that is, "zhovto-blakytnye", the cross, as on the Swedish flag on the pennant, it was pointless to depict, were limited to two sewn stripes. Thus, the "POWERFUL PRAPOR" IS NON-LOST - THERE IS A SYMBOL OF TRAITOR (MAZEPA) AND ENCOURAGING OF THE TRAITORS INVOLVED BY THE INVOLVER, Ie. SWEDEN.

[Hudo]

Does the flag of the Austrian province of Lower Austria remind you of anything?
https://www.google.com.ua/search?q=нижняя+австрия+флаг&client=f
irefox-a & hl = ru & rls = org.mozilla: ru: official & tbm = isch & tbo = u & source = univ & sa = X & ei = P4
WbUZivNZTo4QSImoGoBw

[RUS]

Mazepa workers wound yellow-blue fabrics on their hands.

[Hudo]

Quote: RUS

Mazepa workers wound yellow-blue fabrics on their hands.

They (the Mazepans), and now it would not hurt to reel, only not on the hands, but on the neck and rubbing soap with a tighten, and most importantly harder!

[ia-ai00]

Good article! Honestly, the LIC passedWITHOUT!

[Enot-poloskun]

But Russia has a coat of arms, if I'm not mistaken, is Byzantine!

Those. there is a claim to the legacy of the second Rome - Constantinople.

Remember: "Moscow is the third Rome!"

And the article is interesting!

[Horde]

Why should our symbolism be deduced from Peter that the Russian state, like Petersburg, is 300 years old? If Peter, who did not like Russia and remade his whole life in Russia according to European standards and customs, and the army, and symbolism, after all, took the flag from the flag of Holland as a small state without any history? Is this Russia a state that even had an EXTREMELY TRADITIONAL HISTORY it’s already 600 years of existence, glorious history and great victories. By the beginning of the 18th century Russia was the BIGGEST EUROPEAN STATE, with its original culture and centuries-old traditions, so ON WHAT BASIS do we abandon our DEPETROVSKY SYMBOL ???
Here is the old icon of the 17th century "Sergius of Radonezh with his life", it does not depict the Battle of Kulikovo THE GREATest battle in the history of mankind. The troops of Dmitry Ivanovich on the left, on all banners we see the RED BANNER with SPASO - this is our ancient, PRIMORDIAL SYMBOL. The color of the banner is RED because red is the color of VICTORY. With a red flag, we won on the Kulikovo field, with a red flag we won the Great Patriotic War. And with the tricolor we won at least anything?

[rereture]

A coat of arms would suit me: a bear on its hind legs with a sickle and a hammer in its hands, and behind it there is a red banner with the image of George the Victorious ....

[Egoza]

Quote: rereture

I would have been satisfied with a coat of arms: a bear on its hind legs with a sickle and a hammer in its hands, and behind it there is a red banner with the image of George the Victorious ...

Also a great option! And the essence of the people conveys true! I think many would like it.

[MG42]

Tuned retro car with the emblem of the USSR on the hood

[APASUS]

The author somehow did not convincingly draw a line under his article !!
And the conclusion is quite controversial, where to get the history of the country? after all, these symbols have not just turned out to be power attributes.
Or do you need to change your characters every 5 years, for goals and objectives ??
I wanted to remind the author of the words from the anthem of France.
There is something to think about, but the French are not confused

1. Go, Fatherland sons you,
The hour of your glory has come!
Again tyranny against us
Put up a bloody standard.
Do you hear in our fields
Evil howls enemy soldiers?
He goes so that your son and brother
Your eyes were torn to pieces!

Refrain

To arms friends
Get everything in order
It's time, it's time!
Rotten blood
Wash our fields

[uizik]

I don’t understand one thing. How the yellow-black-haired ensign became yellow-blue! Well, with the hymn everything is clear.

[AntonR7]

I do not agree with the author! The coat of arms of Russia is beautiful and fully corresponds to the aspirations of the people! It encourages us to conform to the spirit of the empire, to maintain and develop the greatness of Russia, not only to those in power. It is nice to be a part of the great. And the fact that someone screams out of fear that we will enslave them is his problem.

[aviamed90]

AntonR7

Yeah, especially the imperial crown - a symbol of imperial sovereignty (autocracy) at the top! And these are the aspirations of the people?

And since when did the Russian Federation become an empire?
In fact, an empire is a monarchical state headed by an emperor or a colonial power that has established its dominance over colonies and dependent territories.

And even in the modern, figurative sense, we are not an empire:

1. The presence of a strong army and police - is absent;
2. Great foreign policy influence - absent;
3. A powerful state idea - is absent;
4. rigid, as a rule, one-man, power - is absent;
5. High loyalty of the population - is absent;
6. An active foreign policy aimed at expansion, aspiration for regional or world domination is also absent;
7. The most important criterion is the presence of specific internal systemic relationships between the central governing part of the state (metropolis), which has concentrated political and economic power, and the colonies subordinate to it, which are sources of geopolitical and economic resources - is debatable.


And in order to "maintain and develop the greatness of Russia," as you put it, it must first be restored.

[AntonR7]

It is precisely this and the aspirations of the people - truly Russian, and the fact that you listed the nonsense, practically all of this exists in Russia, and what does not depend on the people, that’s what the spirit of the empire must be.

[Apollo]

anthem of the Russian Federation

[Apollo]

and finally the anthem of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

[Yuriwhite]

Normal article. I agree completely besides the author’s inventions about the Imperial coat of arms of Russia! Russia was will be only the Empire! For only empires can be great powers on this Earth, only empires can achieve great achievements, and over time, the Russian Empire will regain ALL temporarily lost territories.

[Egoza]

Quote: YuriWhite

Russia was will be only the Empire!

How to say. In fact, in the empire the people - the peoples of the empire have no RIGHTS! But there is an emperor with all the power and the burden of all responsibility. Yes, he has advisors, but he changes them at his discretion. A weak emperor can become dependent on his advisers, a strong one never. Yes, and the issues are resolved by the emperor, who realized that he was wrong somewhere ... If there were an empire, Mr. Serdyukov would have suddenly died from a "stroke of apoplexy".
And why is there so much talk today about the violation of the RIGHTS of the Russian people, despite the laws? Is it because the imperial coat of arms "affects"?

[Dr. M2]

Why is the planet Mars depicted on the coat of arms of the USSR?

Those who read my story "The Lord of Mars" (the second part
"Worm") may be remembered as the main character suddenly dawned on -
the red star on the Soviet emblem denotes the planet Mars! AT
in fact, at the bottom of the coat of arms is the sun, then (above)
The globe is depicted. And what is the next in the solar system
planet from the sun? Mars! And what was the name of the planet Mars in
antiquities? Red Star - for her fiery color! And what is depicted
on the coat of arms farther (higher) from the sun than the Earth? Of course, Red
Star! So, the Red Star on the Soviet coat of arms = planet Mars!
When I wrote Lord of Mars in the spring of 1991, I
discovered this fact by accident. Just one beautiful
the day the metro car stopped in front of me, on which it’s not yet
managed to paint over the image of the Soviet coat of arms. Coat of arms
the subway cars were colored and the star on them was distinctly
red. And although I also inserted this little discovery in
story, I myself did not believe in its truth at that time - you never know
what hidden meaning can be seen by looking at such a complex
drawing as a Soviet emblem. If you look at the clouds in the sky, there
you can also see anything - even human faces, even
camels. But that doesn’t mean that someone of these camels is there
specially painted. So the creators of the coat of arms could well not
suspect this hidden meaning.
And only a few months after finishing work on
I discovered another fact that made me much
take the hypothesis that the Red Star on
Soviet emblem is a symbolic image of Mars. Simply
for fun, I took and measured the distance from the center of the sun on the coat of arms
(this is the place where the ears cross) to the center of the Earth, and
then the distance from the center of the sun to the center of the Red Star on
coat of arms. If we take the distance from the center of the sun to the Earth for
unit (astronomers call this distance astronomical
unit, or abbreviated AU), then the distance from the center of the sun to
the center of the Red Star on the emblem was 1,5 AU. Those who at least
studied a little astronomy must remember that the planet Mars
located at a distance of 1,5 AU from the sun. Inside
the solar system was painted on the Soviet coat of arms with
good observance of scale (this applies to orbits
planets; draw the planets themselves to scale in such a figure
impossible - they simply would not be visible)!

[Dr. M2]

If the first, purely qualitative observation, it was still possible
neglected, then from quantitative measurements, confirming that
The Red Star on the coat of arms - this is the planet Mars was already impossible so
easy to brush it off. Real materialistic required
explanation of this fact (that is, not the same as in the story -
poetic and mystical).
And when I finally managed to find an explanation, it turned out
that the truth is much more surprising than fiction.
First, I recall a few well-known historical
facts.
During the great confrontation of Mars in 1877
Italian astronomer Giovanni Schiaparelli succeeded with great
with difficulty to make out on the surface of Mars some subtlest straight lines
lines that he named the Italian word canali, which is not
necessarily means artificial channels - it is quite possible that
Schiaparelli meant by this natural straits. However
when translating the works of Schiaparelli into English, this word
turned out to be translated as canals, which means channels
artificial origin. In 1892, an English translation
Schiaparelli's works fall into the hands of a rich American
named Percival Lowell who drops diplomatic
career, building on his own money an astronomical observatory in
Arizona and is committed to observing Mars. In 1895 he
publishes his first book, Mars, in which
states that intelligent life exists on Mars and that channels
are the fruit of engineering Martians living on
drying up and dying planet, and forced to build giant
channels to deliver water from the polar caps to the equatorial
areas. The logical consequences of this statement shocked the whole
enlightened world of the late 19th century. The scale of engineering structures on
Mars points out that Martians own technology
inaccessible to Earthlings. It fit well with the then
the idea that Mars is, in a sense, older than Earth.
The fact is that at that time, long before the discovery of the thermonuclear
reactions, no one really knew why the sun was shining.
It was assumed that the sun received sometime in antiquity
initial supply of thermal energy (for example, from
gravitational compression) and now gradually cools down. That is, in
antiquity, when the sun was hot, conditions on a more distant
planet Mars were the same as now on Earth, and the Earth was
too hot for life. Earth was supposed to repeat
evolution of Mars with some delay, and Martian
civilization is much more ancient and developed. Until the first
photos from interplanetary space stations that proved that
channels are just an optical illusion, and Mars represents
from itself a lifeless desert, 70 years left.
At the end of the 19th century, enlightened circles of the planet Earth became
panic build up. The Englishman Herbert Wells added fuel to the fire,
published in 1898 his novel The War of the Worlds, in which
described the military invasion of the Martians on Earth. And again, the Martians
in this novel were technically equipped much better than earthlings -
there was everything, right down to battle lasers.

[Dr. M2]

And now the facts are less known.
Russian Social Democrats of the late 19th - early 20th centuries
were great progressives and closely followed the news
science technology. They simply could not pass by the then enveloping
the entire enlightened world of "Martian fever". Exists,
for example, Lenin's letter dated 1908, in which he
quotes H.G. Wells's article "The Creatures That Live on Mars."
However, it should immediately be noted that Russian social
Democrats accepted the news of the discovery of civilization on Mars
very peculiar. They decided that since civilization was on Mars
much more ancient and more progressive than the earthly one, this means that on
Communism has long been established on Mars. In 1908 (nine years
before the October Revolution) in Russia a scientific-
fantastic novel by A. Bogdanov (philosopher of the Social Democratic
orientation), in which he described communist society on
Mars. This novel, very popular at that time, was called
"A red star". From Lenin's above-mentioned letter it is clear
it follows that Lenin read this novel (in the letter he calls
Bogdanov "our author").
If we now return again to the well-known historical
the fact that Lenin personally approved the coat of arms of the USSR (remember this
a textbook story about how he demanded to remove from the coat of arms
image of a sword?), then it becomes clear that he deliberately introduced
coat of arms image of Mars as a symbol of technologically advanced
communist civilization. Then, in 1922, from the moment
Only 14 years have passed since the release of Bogdanov’s novel and Red Star
was an absolutely transparent and understandable symbol of communism.
(By the way, it immediately becomes clear why, from all
communist symbols as a symbol of the Red Army was
the Red Star was chosen - after all, Mars, among other things
also the god of war).
It must be said that Lenin was by no means always and not in everything
agreed with Bogdanov. It is known how harshly he criticized
him in his book "Materialism and Empirio-criticism". However, in
Lenin's times there was a well-known difference of opinion in the ranks of the party
was allowed, and no special organizational conclusions were drawn from such criticism
was done. Bogdanov outlived Lenin by only four years. Eternal
an inventor and experimenter, he was looking for the secret of immortality and died in
1928, as a result of an unsuccessful experiment conducted on
to yourself.

[Dr. M2]

Perhaps in some ways he was lucky that he did not live to see
Stalin's repressions. The fact that he was criticized by Lenin, in
Stalin's times automatically began to mean that his books
could no longer be published, and those books that were published
Previously, they ended up in special storage for a long time. Years passed and people began to forget
about the novel "Red Star". Instead, the Soviet people were
proposed novel "Aelita", written by a "politically seasoned"
writer A. Tolstoy based on the works of Bogdanov (A. Tolstoy
In general, he was a master of turning Pinocchio into Pinocchio).
The meaning of the Red Star as a symbol of highly developed technical
civilization was lost.
In subsequent years, some have tried to "explain" the color red
the stars are the color of the blood of fallen fighters for the cause of the working class, and five
the rays of the star were explained as a symbol of unity
proletariat of the five continents of the Earth. The explanation is perfect
ridiculous, especially considering that the five-pointed stars
(though white) are present on the flags of many countries around the world, including
USA and Muslim countries, where the star is adjacent to the crescent.
It’s just that the five-pointed star is generally the most common
way of symbolically depicting stars. The fact is that
the five-pointed star has been considered in astrology since ancient times
symbol of the planet Venus, that is, the “morning star”. Hence
Traditionally, the color of the five-pointed star is white among most nations.
In Christian astrology, the pagan goddess of love Venus was
replaced by Mary Magdalene, but the symbol remained the same - white
five-pointed star. The symbol of Mary Magdalene was ascribed a special
the ability to protect against the forces of evil. When medieval people
drew the devil, they almost always drew on top of the picture
a five-pointed star, which, according to their plan, was supposed to protect
viewer from the negative energy emanating from the image.
Some of our contemporaries, seeing in ancient drawings
the five-pointed star on the devil’s forehead, without understanding it, they began to count
her symbol of evil. In fact, this is not an attribute of the devil, but
"protective screen" from it.
Thus, the fact that the Red Star is depicted
five-pointed does not require any special explanation at all - just
This is the historical tradition. The uniqueness of the Soviet Red
The stars are not because they are five-pointed, but because they are red -
the ancient symbol of Venus was painted red in order to
create a symbol for Mars. (So ​​a fragment from
newsreels from the Second World War - a military aircraft,
received by the Soviet Union from the United States as aid, with great
white American star on board, which the Red soldier
Armies are painted red.)
History has prepared a great fate for this symbol. September 14
One of the most significant events in history took place in 1959
humanity - an object created by human hands first touched
another celestial body. The Luna-2 spacecraft, for the first time in
history that reached the surface of the Moon, carried on board a memorable
pennant - a ball made up of many metal
pentagons. The pentagons depicted the Soviet coat of arms and
inscription "USSR".

[Dr. M2]

Centuries will pass. Wars will be forgotten, these tyrants will be forgotten
wars unleashed, but what will not be forgotten is that the country called
"USSR" managed to take humanity into space. Five hundred years from now
names such as Lenin, Stalin, or Khrushchev will be known only
to a narrow circle of historians, just as today
few people remember the name of the queen who ruled Spain in 1492
the year Columbus discovered America. From the point of view of contemporaries
the discovery of America was a trivial event compared to the wars,
which Spain was then leading. Perception of contemporaries or people
living only a few decades after the great
events are always inevitably distorted by an abundance of secondary
details that distract attention from the main thing. Contemporaries -
like people looking at a picture through a magnifying glass, they see well
individual strokes, but have little idea of ​​what is drawn on
picture. To see the whole picture you need to step back a few
steps. Big things can be seen from a distance. Truly great events
visible only through the thickness of centuries.

[Dr. M2]

Why am I saying all this? And to the fact that we don’t know our
history, and ignorance of history inevitably sooner or later leads to
vandalism, i.e. to the desire to destroy symbols whose meaning to us
it is not clear how the tribe of Vandals did it when they broke into the Ancient
Rome and those who destroyed statues they did not understand. For example, I don’t think that those
young people who in August 1991 were demolished from the pedestal
"Iron Felix" were supporters of Stalinism. They simply
didn’t really know our country’s history and didn’t understand the true
the meaning of this statue, erected after the overthrow of Beria. IN
contrast to the lawlessness that happened during
Lavrentiy Palyche, someone remembered that Felix once spoke out
in the sense that a security officer must have a warm heart, a cold
head, and (the most important thing in those days!) clean hands. That's why
the party leadership put Iron Felix in front of the most
windows of the “relevant authorities” so that by his appearance he
served them as an eternal reproach. Thus it turns out that people
those who demolished the monument objectively opposed the
The security officers had “clean hands,” although they themselves did not know it.
And when I hear calls to remove from the Kremlin towers
ruby stars, I want to ask these people: “Do you understand
Are you gentlemen that you want to abandon the symbol that designated
the desire of our people for highly developed technological
civilization? Do you understand that by refusing the coat of arms,
whose image was engraved on the first creation
human hands reaching another celestial body, you thereby
renounce the right to be heirs of a great civilization,
which opened the way to space for humanity?
However, these questions are purely rhetorical. I think that even
if they understood this, they would still continue to destroy
memory of our history, because it's basically the same
people who have already destroyed science and industry in our country
and the education system. I am writing these notes not for them, but for those
who became their supporters due to ignorance of history. Question about our
State symbolism has not yet been finally decided. This means,
that we still have a chance to come to our senses and not go down in history in one
next to the vandals.
Symbols are a connecting thread between generations, connecting
disparate times into a single history of the people. Symbols are not allowed
change, they can only be rethought, adapting them
interpretation for changing times. Hammer and sickle is not necessary
considered purely communist symbols is, first of all,
symbols of the progenitors of all modern technology, and who can
argue that the prosperity of modern society must
be based on technology, and not on the sale of natural resources?
In the case of the Red Star, even rethinking is not required -
It is enough to return this symbol to its original meaning. The only one
element of the Soviet coat of arms that really needs to be changed
- this is a narrow party slogan “Proletarians of all countries,
unite! " But even here history turned out to be merciful to us - on
the historical lunar pennant does not contain these inscriptions (as there are none,
By the way, on Soviet coins, the ribbons on the coats of arms are too small,
to engrave inscriptions on them). That is, the inscriptions can be
removed from the ribbons on the coat of arms without any damage to history. With a flag
even simpler - there are only Hammer and Sickle and Red Star.
We have the opportunity not to renounce our history.
Let's use it.

(c) A. Lazarevich, Sovetiya.

[Volkhov]

The five-pointed star is a symbol of man and populated celestial body.

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[Dr. M2]

And after that, some may not know, the flag of the Holy Roman Empire:

[datur]

Looks like a wonderful coat of arms! Except this is the coat of arms of the empire! And the Empire, as you know, is most often a vast state, including the territories of other peoples and states ------ but that’s how it is, and we have nothing to be ashamed of!!!!

[Dr. M2]

10.4.2. A spacesuit as a “national” Soviet costume?

Since the Soviet people are an open people, everyone
traditional ways of distinguishing between “us” and “strangers” (according to
biological characteristics of a particular race, accent or
pronunciation, by first name or last name) are not suitable. We have to
easily recognizable national image, maybe even your own
"National Costume. This issue is not very good yet
worked out. As a "crazy" idea I want to put forward
a proposal that even to me sometimes seems too much
avant-garde, although ultimately everything will depend on
fashion designer's talent.
Any national costume reflects at least two factors -
the climate of the country in which this nationality originated, and the level
technical development of the people at the time when this
suit - first of all, the level of technology of those materials from
which you can create clothes.
Two peoples arose on the territory of Russia at different times -
Russian and Soviet. Since the Russians arose during the times
primitive technologies, the maximum that they could come up with for
protection from the harsh Russian frosts - a fur coat and a hat with earflaps made of
furs of killed animals. The Soviet people appeared in the 20th century, century
high chemical technologies that made it possible to create light and
durable heat-protective materials for overalls and lightweight
transparent materials from which you can make a “visor” for
face protection.

[Dr. M2]

All this was used by the Soviet people in space, and only
the inertia of thinking did not allow it to be used on Earth.
Meanwhile, living conditions in Russia are not so much
different from living conditions on the Moon. For centuries
humanity settled from warm southern countries to the north, to all
climate more hostile to humans until it finally reached
Russia. Life in Russia differs from life in future colonies by
The moon only because in Russia there is summer almost every year,
short period of time when you can go outside without
protective suit, but on the Moon you need a spacesuit for walking outside
wear all year round. Another small difference is that
that on the surface of the Moon a person without a spacesuit will die in ten
seconds, and in Russia in winter at minus thirty degrees people without
with special warm clothes it is possible and will be able to last an hour or two.
Otherwise, there are practically no differences, and at home in Russia with their
thick walls, double window frames, double doors with
vestibules (“gateways”) and central heating radiators are
the most complex "survival machines" in a hostile environment for humans
environment reminiscent of space station modules. So if ours
the houses look so much like space dwellings, why can’t it be
similarities between our clothes and a spacesuit? After all, we
the last stage on the path of earthly civilization into space.
At first glance, the proposal to use a spacesuit in
as everyday wear seems absurd because:

[Dr. M2]

1. the spacesuit is probably expensive
2. the spacesuit is heavy and walking in it is uncomfortable
3. the spacesuit is difficult and takes a long time to put on and take off
4. in a spacesuit a person feels isolated (“deaf as
in the tank")
5. The spacesuit is “unaesthetic”
6. Walking down the street in spacesuits is simply “not accepted”
7. The spacesuit is not sold at all in any store.
Let's consider these objections in order:
1. “the spacesuit is probably expensive”
Only a spacesuit for going into outer space is expensive - in
it is full of life support systems for human existence
vacuum and over a wide temperature range. We need a spacesuit
for walking down the street at normal atmospheric pressure in
temperature range from -15C to -35C, which greatly simplifies
task, and accordingly reduces the cost of the “product”.
2. “the spacesuit is heavy and walking in it is uncomfortable”
Since we don't need to protect ourselves from vacuum and space
cold weather, the spacesuit can be made very light - much more
lighter than traditional clothing. If used in overalls
screen-vacuum thermal insulation - several layers
metallized polyester film, very light, then winter
clothes in general could be made lighter than summer clothes, and
at the same time much warmer than any fur coat. Since the helmet is not
must withstand excess internal air pressure as in
space suit, it can also be made from very light
plastic. True, there may be some problems with fogging
transparent visor, but this problem has long been solved by
"real" spacesuits - there are special coatings and for a long time
It's time to introduce this space technology into everyday life.

[Dr. M2]

3. “the spacesuit is difficult and takes a long time to put on and take off”
Climb into a jumpsuit made as one piece with boots and
gloves, zip up, put on a helmet, and, apparently,
Zip the zipper once to connect the helmet to the overalls.
Surely it will be faster than putting on warm clothes first,
then put on boots or boots, tie or fasten them,
then a scarf, then put on a coat or fur coat and button it up
behind the button, then put on a hat (lower your ears if outside
very cold), then put on gloves or mittens: Is that all? Or am I still
missed something?
4. "in a spacesuit a person feels isolated ("deaf
like in a tank)"
Firstly, as I already said, the helmet will not be so thick,
sound will pass through it. But if it seems to you
insufficient, it can easily be “radiofitted” - into a spacesuit in
In any case, there will be a built-in power source (batteries or
small batteries) for the thermal control system and
ventilation - so why not put a microphone outside, and
miniature loudspeakers inside the helmet? Besides,
speakers can be used for listening
radio broadcasts from a miniature radio receiver built into the helmet (in
the most expensive models even have a built-in cell phone and
computer with projection of information from an Internet browser onto
inner surface of the transparent helmet visor) Miniature
control panel for all spacesuit systems could be
place them on the forearm of the left hand - then they would be convenient
press with your right hand.

[Dr. M2]

5. "The spacesuit is 'unaesthetic'"
Actually, the idea of ​​what is beautiful and what is not is everything
time is changing. We don't know what will be fashionable tomorrow. But already
Today motorcyclists are not embarrassed to wear a helmet (by the way
say, the face of a man in a spacesuit with a large transparent
the visor will be visible to others much better than the face
a motorcyclist wearing a helmet, so in case of mass adoption
wearing a spacesuit as winter clothing, we are not in danger of being invaded by "people"
without faces"). It should be noted that the spacesuit has not yet been
touched by the designer's hand. Until now, spacesuits have been created as
purely work clothes, and no one thought about their beauty. I'm sure,
that if desired, the spacesuit could be made very beautiful and
attractive. It can look like sportswear and
like something sci-fi, high-tech style. And what if
stuff it with all sorts of electronics... There is potential for
advertising and marketing.
6. “walking down the street in spacesuits is simply not accepted”
It depends entirely on ourselves. In the West, for example, not
It’s customary to walk the streets in fur hats - but the climate there is
another. The Russian people invented the fur hat with earflaps in response to
Russian climatic conditions, but this invention is already more
thousands years. It's time to take the next step forward and start applying
modern technologies in clothing. We are, after all, a country
launched the first man into space, who else would wear spacesuits,
if not for us.

[Dr. M2]

Every winter, many people are admitted to hospitals with a diagnosis
"frostbite". An immeasurably larger number of people are getting sick
flu. There is one proven, reliable remedy for the flu epidemic.
a remedy that no one uses - gauze bandages
on the mouth. This is really inconvenient and unaesthetic - it looks
like a muzzle and essentially is one. When with people with anyone
talk, they always want to see not only the eyes, but also the mouth
interlocutor - which the spacesuit will provide even with the lowered
transparent visor. The suit will provide, in addition to protection from
cold also protects against viruses spreading through the air.
Influenza epidemics, mainly spread through
overcrowded cold trains and buses will forever go into
past.
7. “the spacesuit is not sold in any store at all”
And this also depends on us. There is no offer because there is no
demand. Let's create demand first, then maybe
will there be an offer? Then there will be engineers, designers and
fashion designers who will develop the spacesuit. Maybe there will even be
domestic manufacturers ready to take up production
such a necessary thing (foreign manufacturers do not need this, they have
the climate is different). So for one thing, let’s help a dying woman survive.
domestic industry, not to mention saving the lives of those
people who would have died from the flu.

[Dr. M2]

No, actually, let's do an experiment. If you
I liked this idea with a spacesuit, tell your friends about it
friends. If they like this idea too, copy this chapter
onto a floppy disk and let them copy it. And so on. Even if you
so distribute just two copies of this text, it
will begin to multiply exponentially (that is, very
fast).
If the experiment works, then maybe the next
winter, or maybe after the winter, we will finally be able to buy in
store truly modern winter clothes that don't
I’m scared to go skiing in forty-degree frost, and don’t
It’s scary to enter a train car where everyone is sneezing.
If only this experiment succeeds, we will except good
winter clothes we get even more. We will have confidence in
that we ourselves can change something in this life for the better.
Put an end to the stupid custom of freezing your nose off every winter and
Getting the flu is just the beginning. Our life requires more
a lot of improvements. But you have to start somewhere. Let's try
start simple.
Well, if the experiment doesn’t work out: Well, let’s try
come up with something better. But you have to try anyway.
Otherwise, nothing will ever work out.


Conclusion. Our main resource is the ability to dream

[Volkhov]

The spacesuit is the national German clothing and is quite appropriate on the Moon, asteroids, under water, but they don’t wear it on the beaches of Cuba.

[Thunderbolt]

Despite numerous legends that subsequently appeared that the red flag was supposedly accompanied by thousands of crying people, real witnesses do not confirm this. As the writer Alexander Genis recalls, “there was not a single soul on Red Square, not even a policeman. In an equally empty sky, the red flag quietly and quickly fell over the Kremlin and almost immediately a new, tricolor one rose.”
The legend about “drunk workers who, while raising the Russian flag, mistakenly hung it upside down” also remains on the conscience of its authors. According to Andrei Grachev, “a happy, smiling Gennady Burbulis, the organizer of this performance, came up and pulled the cable hard several times to capture himself against the backdrop of this historical event... The flag was lowered. The worker in the padded jacket stomped around and, not daring to throw him at his feet, began to awkwardly push him under the padded jacket...

[Dr. M2]

18th Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, 2012

[Dr. M2]

18th Congress of the Chinese Communist Party, 2012

[regsSSSR]

I can approach this question from an artistic point of view because this is my main profession! There are no claims about Belarusians, neither to the flag, nor to the coat of arms, nor to the prize-dent, everything is in a harmonious combination (here, as they say, without comment)! I can just mention that the opposition’s flag looks very much like a Lithuanian or Polish banner, white and red! with Russia everything is more complicated and there is contradiction on the one hand, the tricolor flag of the great empire, the banner of many wars and victories, has remained the flag of many former Slavic republics, still reminiscent of our common past (Slavic Croatia, etc.)! but from an artistic point of view, the combination of colors is not very successful and, moreover, it is very hackneyed from the first time, unmemorable and is present in different variations in many European states and, moreover, does not have a pronounced identity. Although the flag of the Romanov family is similar to the German one, the combination of colors looks much better and more pleasing to the eye. It probably should have been made the banner of Russia at one time! The Soviet flag is clear, simple, memorable and reflects the essence of that time! in my opinion, we would be given a flag like the Montenegrin one (a two-tailed eagle on a scarlet background could be with a hammer and sickle against the background of the coat of arms of the USSR, or options are possible), I think it would be beautiful and memorable, if anyone is interested, I can draw different options))) as for the Ukrainian flag, may the inhabitants of this sovereign forgive me, but the combination of blue and yellow on the flag is really not a very good combination according to all the rules of the genre, it hurts the eye and reminds me a little of a clown combination of colors (maybe that’s why there are still only clowns in the Rada) but don’t get me wrong, yellow the steppe and blue sky are beautiful but live in life! but on the banner these colors don’t look like they don’t exist, but the three prongs, by the way, on the contrary, fit in very well and from a design point of view it looks really simple and tasteful and also meaningful (although it may not look like a coat of arms, but it’s still beautiful) THAT’S ALL I’M SAYING FROM AN ARTISTIC POINT OF VIEW (and probably from my own too))) and I’m not trying to prove or accuse anyone of anything!!!

[Blackgrifon]

“Well, excuse me, who is Russia going to turn into its colony? Who is it going to capture to expand its possessions? Is this why the former republics of the USSR are now afraid to enter into an alliance with Russia? Well, liberals and “shitcrats” are screaming that the Russian Empire was going to enslave everyone again!"

The Russian Empire did not have colonies - all the territories that were part of it developed. Resources were not siphoned out of them.
The coat of arms of Russia is a modified coat of arms of the Moscow state introduced by John III the Great.

[lexe]

Russian people! In whom conscience and honor are alive, respond to our call. Our Fatherland is on the eve of destruction. The consequences of anarchy and shameful peace will be incalculable and terrible. Our lot will be slavery, even more terrible than the Tatar yoke.---Major General M.G. Drozdovsky.
Black color is a signal color to go to the end because human life is not eternal after all
Yellow color - calmness and determination from the choice made
White is the color of purity. We all remember that before a battle our ancestors dressed as if they were going on a date with the woman they loved - everything was clean and white.
I think if the question of a new coat of arms ever arises (God willing), it will be useful to remember what OURS dreamed and thought about in that unequal war with globalism! ancestors.

[Olaf]

The author is surprisingly “objective” about the symbols of Ukraine. In heraldry he is simply special, especially in the meaning of the colors of the Russian flag. Would you like to tell us about the history of the tricolor, or compare the Russian flag with the flag of the Netherlands?