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Who saved the world from 1983 nuclear war of the year?

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The ten days of November 1983 were probably the most dangerous in stories of humanity. Alas, with those who just saved us from this horror, there is still no complete clarity.


In our country, the broad masses like to represent Americans as slightly limited people. This is a tradition, and it probably will not change, in the same way as the attitude of the United States towards the rest of the world will not change: they consider them to be “smaller brothers”. However, if we want to get a real idea of ​​the processes taking place in the States, then it is useful to separate our ideas about them from the country itself.

When “Rossiyskaya Gazeta”, through the mouth of its journalist Vladislav Vorobyov, declares that Sarah Palin confused the Czech Republic and Chechnya after the Boston terrorist attacks and said: “Let's shoot a couple of nuclear missiles in Islamabad, we will burn Prague, then we will bomb, fucking, Tehran” is our idea about "dumb Americans." In life, the quoted “words of Palin” came up with a satirical electronic edition of The Daily Сurrant, which in its entire history has not published a single serious message. In other words, not the “level of intelligence of this“ American politician ”undoubtedly surpasses it,” as Mr. Vorobyov believes, but rather the level of a journalist of the Rossiyskaya Gazeta, as well as the masses of his colleagues who repeated this stand-up nonsense. Or give comments to an article in The Daily Сurrant: “Do you understand that The Daily Сurrant is a satirical site? Those who call Sarah Palin ignorant need a long look in the mirror. We promise: you will find the real ignoramus there. ”


In November, 1983, the armed forces of the USSR and the USA could arrange such a memorable spectacle more than 50 000 times in a row. This world would be enough for a long time ...


Well, let's follow this wise advice and look into America as a mirror of Russian statehood.

November 2 NATO's 1983, the start of the ten-day Able Archer 83 exercise. Exercises as exercises, only in their course, actions in the event of a nuclear war were practiced, including a simulation of the launch of nuclear intercontinental ballistic missiles throughout the USSR. There were other nice details: in particular, the readiness of DEFCON 1 was announced. To make it clearer, we recall that during the 1962 Caribbean crisis of the year, there was a readiness of DEFCON 2, which is also a “red readiness”. DEFCON 1 is "white readiness", its description in the relevant literature briefly: "Nuclear war is inevitable." Of course, it could not be declared seriously, since DEFCON 1 required a real nuclear attack of the enemy, so it was also simulated. The trouble was that during the 1983 exercise, new unique communication codes and a complete radio silence mode were used for the first time, and the heads of state of NATO were involved.

From the foregoing, it is obvious that in the United States they did not understand the depth of penetration of Soviet intelligence organizations into the NATO military machine. For the USSR, it all looked like a real DEFCON 1 - that is, a nuclear war. The reaction was predictable: the Strategic Missile Forces were transferred to readiness number XXUMX (analogue of DEFCON 1), but not simulated, but real, and air force units relocated to the GDR and Poland.

What is even sadder, all this took place at a rather specific time. Ten months after these exercises, Ronald Reagan, checking the microphone before addressing the American people, said right before the broadcast: “My compatriots are Americans, I am pleased to inform you today that I signed a decree declaring Russia outlawed forever. Bombing will start in five minutes. ” This joke, uttered, as he thought, in a narrow circle, of course, was immediately heard in the USSR. TASS, of course, strongly condemned the "unprecedentedly hostile attack by the US President." And eight months before the teachings, the same man called the USSR an evil empire at all.

It cannot be said that the Soviet leaders were shocked. In May, 1981-th at a closed meeting of the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee, where high-ranking KGB officers, L.I. Brezhnev and the KGB chairman Yu. V. Andropov were invited, said that the US was preparing a nuclear attack on the USSR. Allegedly, in order to develop countermeasures, Andropov announced the launch of Operation RYAN (“Nuclear Rocket Attack”) conducted by the KGB and the GRU. Details are unclear. The use of such a transparent abbreviation for the name of a secret operation looks strange, and the only source for it is the defector Oleg Gordievsky, the former colonel of the PGU KGB.

The decision of the USSR was not even the answer to Reagan’s rhetoric, but to the deployment of X-NUMX ballistic missiles “Pershing-108” in Western Europe, the flight time of which to the targets in the European part of the USSR did not exceed 2 – 4 minutes. Of course, it can be said that this was a response to the US backlog in nuclear weapons from the USSR by the middle of 6. But Soviet leaders believed that the medium-range missiles RSD-70 in Europe are not threatened by the United States. And so they were somewhat surprised by the deployment of American medium-range missiles in the Old World (the USSR, on the contrary, threatened). From their point of view, the Pershing were dangerous because they left too little time for a retaliatory strike, and a preventive nuclear missile strike became the only effective means of defense for the USSR. Thus, perceiving Able Archer 10 as a disguise of a real attack, Andropov was going to sanction just such a preemptive strike.

According to some open materials by the CIA, Moscow sent new instructions to its residencies in NATO countries, which explicitly stated that Operation RYAN "now lies at the core of [Soviet] military strategy," and the warning about a NATO strike should give the USSR "time to retaliate . Otherwise, the deadline for the act of retaliation will be extremely small. "

From this, the CIA analyst concludes that in fact the USSR planned preventive, not retaliation. Why? “If they receive allegedly reliable information about the impending attack from the United States, it will not make sense for them to wait for the start of this attack in order to undertake a retaliatory response. It will make sense for them to try to destroy American missiles before they take off, ”says Benjamin B. Fischer, a prominent CIA analyst.

It is very difficult for our compatriot to understand what he means, because the reasoning looks like wishful thinking: the American intelligence officer decides what makes sense for the Soviet leadership and what it does not have, and makes a decision on this basis.

It is stupid in the first place because of the vagueness that it makes sense in the eyes of the concrete Soviet leadership, and that it is not. Say, in May of 1941, G. K. Zhukov wrote the following to Stalin: in the conditions of concentration of the German army on our border, "she has the opportunity to warn us in deployment and deliver a sudden blow"; it makes sense to “prevent this (and crush the German army) ... to preempt the enemy in deployment and attack the German army at the moment when it will be at the deployment stage and will not have time to organize the front and interaction of the arms of the armed forces.” Nevertheless, for the Soviet leadership at that moment Zhukov’s idea did not make sense. One can argue for a long time about why, but the fact remains: the logic of the leaders of that time is already being tried to understand 72 of the year, but there is no obvious success. Why did Benjamin Fisher decide that Andropov’s thinking was better than Stalin’s?

But put yourself in the analyst’s place. He worked all his life against the evil empire, vigorous and self-assured, who craftily and prudently prepared the revolution throughout the world. In his eyes, Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, then Pol Pot), a third of Africa, and then Afghanistan disappeared in the flame of the latter. Yes, maybe everything was different, you say. But this was how our country was perceived, and, based on this vision, a preemptive strike from the USSR was logical.

Note that we do not know anything about the real intentions of Andropov. But suppose that the American intelligence officer is right, and the ex-head of the KGB, and at that time simply the general secretary really wanted to erase the United States and the rest of the world with post-nuclear dust. Why not erased?

The question of what is there, interesting. Able Archer 83 could not be distinguished by any human forces from a real war. Yes, the coffins of the NATO troops were not harvested, but the fuel and reinforced ammunition for them were delivered, and Reagan, unfortunately, was not a Soviet spy and could not reassure our leadership, explaining that simulating missile launches and “white readiness” is just a joke, as his future phrase, "The bombing of the USSR will begin in five minutes."

There are two versions of the one who saved the world in this situation, telling the Soviet side the truth about the teachings and removing the secretary’s unwavering finger from the conventional red button. One of them was told by Oleg Gordievsky and his friends from MI-6. According to him, having learned from Gordievsky (at that time, a double agent) about the “panic” in the Soviet leadership, because under the guise of the West’s training is preparing for a nuclear strike on the USSR, the United States and Great Britain were able to reduce the accuracy of imitation exercises of a real strike, that reassured the USSR and allowed the West to avoid a preemptive strike from the Soviet side, which had a more powerful nuclear arsenal. In some retellings, it is added that Gordiyevsky’s reports that NATO had no real intentions to attack in November 1983 also calmed the Soviet leadership.

Notice, we said that “Oleg Gordievsky and his friends from MI-6” think so. The CIA in the face of Benjamin Fisher slightly doubts the details. His sources agree: after Gordievsky London sent a clear message to Washington: “Stop helping the hawks and start supporting the pigeons”. But it is unclear how analytic conclusions were based on Gordiyevsky’s information, and how much the British top’s own thoughts, led by Thatcher, are.

The most amazing thing in this version is different. When it was reported to Reagan that the USSR was afraid of his first strike, he was shocked. It is hard to believe, but, according to him, he was very surprised to find out that “many Soviet leaders fear [the Americans] not just as opponents, but as potential aggressors ... who can strike them first with the help of a nuclear weapons».

Recall: it says a man for whom the USSR was only a variation on the theme of Nazi Germany, a global superpower-cannibal. Of course, he was surprised at the thought of the cannibal’s fear that his “victim” (“free world”) would suddenly be the first to devour him.

But we would not unconditionally trust the version that Gordievsky, an agent of the USSR in London, saved the world alone. For there is another story on the same topic: it’s only the defeats that have no fathers, and there will always be more than one challenger to save the world. German citizen Rainer Wolfgang Rupp, recruited by the Stasi (more precisely - Hauptverwaltung Aufklärung) in 1968, in 1983, worked in the political department of the NATO Economics Directorate, where he massively photographed NATO documents up to Cosmic Top Secret, which translated into Russian means roughly "Dream scout".

It is clear that the level of trust in him was extremely high: suffice it to say that it was he who delivered the MC 161 document to the Soviet bloc. 5 January 2008 of the television program of the British fourth channel "1983: on the Edge of the Apocalypse", he said that during the exercise he sent using a transmitter disguised as a calculator, a Stasi message in which he indicated that NATO is not planning a sudden nuclear attack under the guise of an exercise. As he claims, it played a crucial role in preventing a preventive nuclear attack by the USSR. By the way, citizens from the CIA consider his opinion not unfounded.

So choose for yourself the world in which you prefer to live — saved by a Soviet traitor or a West German Stasi agent.

And let us allow us to avoid such a choice between “good” and “even more good”. All that we know about that era is crying to heaven: decisions about the destruction of enemy countries and coalitions in the Soviet bloc were not taken by such a state as the GDR. Only the Soviet leadership could accept them, and he could not be convinced by the solitary statement of his KGB colonel in England or by the message of the Stasi agent from Brussels.

Who saved the world from 1983 nuclear war of the year?

Time Magazine knowingly put them on the cover. It was easy to call any of them not only the “man of the year”, but also much stronger words: not every time the fate of the world depends on people who represent absolute evil in a vacuum in the place of their enemy and are ready to harass it to good post-nuclear desertification.


We do not know how many sources the Secretary General of the Central Committee of the CPSU had and how much information about the intentions of NATO received. The same Rainer Rupp “burned down”, he served a German prison and became known to the public only because the GDR fell and its documents fell into the hands of the United States. The USSR fell, but its documents passed away the hands of the Western powers, because we have no idea how many “Reiners Rupps” Andropov had.

But the matter is not even in intelligence, which, most likely, “reported exactly,” without any Stasi agents and overdone traitors. Strictly speaking, in general, no shaft of messages about the intentions of a likely enemy, as historical experience shows, did not guarantee that the Soviet leadership would believe in him.

For it believed only to itself. Even Andropov, who was extremely serious about the work on which he grew up, was no exception. Any information from intelligence was only food for the mind, and Soviet leaders always left themselves analysis and decisions. Andropov was not just a soft gasket between a button and an imaginary first-strike threat from the West — he was the main part of this button. And ultimately, in the main, to his sanity, we owe it to the fact that all of humanity did not burn in the flames of nuclear war.

But what makes the brightest impression in this whole story: both the USA and the USSR quite seriously, having mentally healthy people as leaders, believed that the other side was asleep and saw how to be the first to strike with nuclear weapons. As in the famous film: “I’m surely cheating, and more than once, the whole world is in dust!” But when something like this is said by an alcoholic ensign, you can understand it. Surprisingly, both countries, which determined the destinies of the whole world in 1983, were headed by people who were not far from the ensign in the ability to put themselves in the place of a hostile nation.

In 1983, the threat of nuclear war was more real than ever since the Caribbean crisis, and maybe even more real. And the only reason for it was the absolute misunderstanding of the Soviet and American leadership thinking each other. Both sides considered themselves moral and sane, believing that a nuclear war would kill both the victor and the vanquished. But the leader of the enemies, they totally denied both morality and a sound assessment of the situation. Reagan’s jokes about the bombing of the USSR in 1984 were therefore taken as seriously as the tales of a satirical site that major American politicians are proposing to launch a nuclear strike on the Czech Republic in 2013.

So you say the cold war is over?

Based on materials from the CIA and other sources.
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  1. Canep
    Canep 21 May 2013 05: 44 New
    +2
    I remember these times of nuclear hysteria, in our schools (4-8 class) classes were held on ZOMP. Everyone's nerves were on edge.
    1. Nick
      Nick 21 May 2013 07: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Canep
      I remember these times of nuclear hysteria, in our schools (4-8 class) classes were held on ZOMP. Everyone's nerves were on edge.

      And in November 81, I was demobilized from the Strategic Rocket Forces. At that time, I remember waiting for an attack from both China and the United States, it is not clear from whom more ... Almost at every political session they raised this topic ...
      1. vlbelugin
        vlbelugin 21 May 2013 09: 06 New
        +6
        The article is a minus. And you have a minus. Do not scare people. I don’t remember hysteria. 1978 - 1995 service in the Strategic Missile Forces. Mozyr Division. The troops were not brought to combat readiness during this time and were not brought up for any external threats. All this is a bluff.
        Do not believe it. But they were really put on alert once - the death of Brezhnev.
        1. Misantrop
          Misantrop 21 May 2013 10: 11 New
          +5
          Quote: vlbelugin
          Do not scare people. I don’t remember hysteria.
          Exactly. 13th division of the 3rd flotilla of the PKK SN KSF. No panic, no tantrums. Once there was a REAL strain, but this was in 1984, when the explosion of missile depots over Severomorsk grew a classic mushroom. It was. Interestingly, they were scared and afraid of everything except ... those who would directly have to use this very weapon, if it really were true.
          IMHO article - just another attempt to launder from deserved spitting and slopping graves of traitors. A traitor, by definition, CANNOT be the savior of his homeland, he exchanged it for cut paper. And I want fame, positive, and not just loud. Here are similar articles and appear ...
        2. Nick
          Nick 22 May 2013 20: 55 New
          0
          Quote: vlbelugin
          The article is a minus. And you have a minus. Do not scare people. I don’t remember hysteria. 1978 - 1995 service in the Strategic Missile Forces. Mozyr Division. The troops were not brought to combat readiness during this time and were not brought up for any external threats.

          If this is you addressed to me, then in vain. I did not claim that during my service we were brought to increased combat readiness. I affirm that political activities often spoke of the United States and China as the most likely aggressors against the USSR. Read my comment carefully. And then, Strategic Rocket Forces always are on combat duty, i.e. in constant combat readiness for use, I myself spent about a year of service in the database in the security company. If you served, then you know ...
      2. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 21 May 2013 09: 18 New
        +4
        Where is the conclusion? Reagan, in general ..... of an average defeat, he has intelligence like that of a younger boy. And he called us the “Empire of Evil” after the brilliant operation, the “Korean Boeing.” There are many factors, but the author forgot many .We are the world, they are evil. After 1991, it is really incomprehensible. Libya later understood it, and Syria did it on time.
        1. Nick
          Nick 22 May 2013 23: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
          We are the world, they are evil. After 1991, it is really incomprehensible. Here Libya understood late, and Syria on time.

          That's for sure!
    2. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 21 May 2013 09: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Canep
      I remember these times of nuclear hysteria, in our schools (4-8 class) classes were held on ZOMP. Everyone's nerves were on edge.

      Practical exercises on civil defense, by us, by the children of 80x, were taken for granted in the face of the threat of a sudden nuclear strike.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 21 May 2013 09: 20 New
        +3
        Vladimir Belugin is right, right.
        He spent three days in the BIP in readiness No. 1. The death of Brezhnev.
        And then, to Andropov, Chernenko ... and didn’t even bother.
        Tired of fearing the Americans, they were already spotting on the spot.
        1. Gari
          Gari 21 May 2013 09: 55 New
          +3
          Quote: Igarr
          Tired of fearing the Americans, they were already spotting on the spot.

          Everything is true and after such a Leader as Andropov, they brought this slug-renegade
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 21 May 2013 10: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: Gari
            Quote: Igarr
            Tired of fearing the Americans, they were already spotting on the spot.

            Everything is true and after such a Leader as Andropov, they brought this slug-renegade


            You are not surprised that none other than A.A. Gromyko?
            In his speech, not a word was said about communism, about the goals set by the party, but there were a lot of flattering words to Gorbachev: “Mikhail Sergeyevich is a man of a sharp and deep mind, he grasps the essence of processes well and quickly” ... So or otherwise, after Gromyko’s speech, no one dared to propose other candidates, and Mikhail Sergeyevich was unanimously elected in the usual party style.
            1. Gari
              Gari 21 May 2013 12: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: Hudo
              One way or another, after Gromyko’s speech, no one dared to propose other candidates, and Mikhail Sergeyevich was unanimously elected in the usual party style.

              Yes, because Gromyko was the oldest respected member of the Politburo, and this is surprising, because he was still from the Stalinist cadres.
              As it turned out, using the moment, Gromyko tried to solve his power claims. On the eve of Chernenko’s death, Gromyko instructed his son to contact A. Yakovlev, who is known for his informal connections with Gorbachev, in order to receive him as Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Council in exchange for Gorbachev's nomination for the post of General Secretary. As a result of negotiations, Gorbachev agreed with Gromyko’s proposal.

              This is how the USSR Minister of Foreign Affairs A. Gromyko for decades (36 years in the Central Committee, 15 of them in the Politburo), adamantly defending state interests in the international arena, sacrificed these interests in the name of personal interests
              In July 1985, Gromyko received the post of Chairman of the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces. However, literally a year later he became disappointed in Gorbachev, calling him a “bell”.
              But one thing is clear, for Gorbachev, even with the support of Gromyko, Chebrikov and Ligachev, things could not have turned out so cloudless if some moments from his biography became public

              From an article by Vladislav Shveda-

              Gorbachev: how did he come

              Unfortunately happened, what happened
              labeled Judah brought to power
  2. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 21 May 2013 05: 47 New
    +8
    Like Vysotsky’s: “Listen, have you heard? They’re building a city under the ground, they say in case of a nuclear war” and this article. actually nothing more to say.
  3. Marconi41
    Marconi41 21 May 2013 05: 48 New
    +5
    YES! Americans with their short-term jokes could "amuse" the whole planet !!! Those who were now running with clubs and bows (and at the same time with the third leg and tail) would run!
  4. dmitrich
    dmitrich 21 May 2013 06: 04 New
    +9
    the author himself would not have a closer look at himself in the mirror.
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 21 May 2013 08: 58 New
      +8
      I will join, Anatoly, I will join ...
      At first glance - a "serious" article.
      You get a grasp of it - it carries rotten meat.
      It turns out that spies and traitors saved the WORLD.
      And, the Soviet leadership - everything was decided from the bulldozer. Wife did not give in the morning - we crave for America. Dala - we crave for England.
      .
      That's just - u..o..a..the distinguished author did not yap a word about the fact that the Soviet leadership had never allowed itself in the studio (on the radio, on television, in rehearsal) to worn off in the style of a “drunk propeller” - right now we’ll hit America and, to hell with it, with Holland.
      It was, it was this ... one comrade was thrashing the UN rostrum with a shoe and threatened to show the "kuzkin mother" to the whole world.
      So, during the "threshing" of the rostrum to press the "red" button was - Impossible.
      Therefore, it does not count.
      .
      Bad article. Two-faced.
      1. Gari
        Gari 21 May 2013 10: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: Igarr
        he thrashed one comrade in the UN rostrum with a shoe and threatened to show his “Kuz'kin mother” to the whole world.

        why did he do it-
        excerpt from the article, “How Khrushchev conquered America,” the memoirs of Nikolai Zakharov, retired colonel general, first deputy chairman of the KGB, head of the 9th Directorate,

        ON OCTOBER 12, the most stormy meeting of the UN General Assembly took place, when the question introduced by the Soviet delegation on the elimination of the colonial system was discussed. The first speaker was N. S. Khrushchev. After his speech, the Filipino took to the podium, who, among other things, declared that the Soviet state was a “concentration camp”.

        Listening to the simultaneous translation, Khrushchev exploded. Not only was it offensive - it was unfair!

        Sitting from behind, I saw Khrushchev, after consulting with Gromyko, decide to ask the chairman Balduen to give him a word on the order of reference, which was provided for by the procedure. Nikita Sergeevich raised his hand, but Baldwin either did not really see, or pretended not to see a raised hand. Khrushchev stood up and raised his hand again. It was simply impossible not to see Nikita Sergeevich standing with his hand raised. But the speaker spoke, and the head of the Soviet delegation continued to stand with his hand raised. It seemed that the presiding officer was simply ignoring him.

        Then Khrushchev took off his light shoes and kicked off on the table, measuredly, like a pendulum of a metronome. This was the moment that went down in world history as the famous Khrushchev boot. The UN conference room has not seen anything like it yet. Sensation was born right before our eyes.
        Only after that Baldwin gave the floor to the head of the Soviet delegation. Nikita Sergeyevich, going up to the podium, made a wave with his hand in front of the Filipino’s nose - get away.

        On October 13, the session unanimously accepted the proposal of the Soviet delegation to discuss the issue of eliminating colonialism at the plenary meeting of the Assembly.
        1. Noni4
          Noni4 21 May 2013 11: 12 New
          +2
          Interesting. Thanks.
      2. gagarinneon
        gagarinneon 21 May 2013 10: 19 New
        +1
        Well, listen to the same written-Prepared by the CIA and other sources.
        this in my opinion says it all ...
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 21 May 2013 09: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: Dmitry
      the author himself would not have a closer look at himself in the mirror.


      Right Brrrr ... While I read the brain broke. There was a feeling that they had been deceived in the best expectations. Or maybe in vain he expected something else ...
  5. mogus
    mogus 21 May 2013 06: 08 New
    +3
    Hmm ... I was still not a year old. So we know the story
  6. dmitrich
    dmitrich 21 May 2013 06: 09 New
    12
    and the ensigns did not need to be insulted, there are journalists much dumber, I will not point a finger, minus the article.
  7. avant-garde
    avant-garde 21 May 2013 06: 17 New
    +2
    how nice that I can read this article today!
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 21 May 2013 09: 08 New
      +1
      More interesting
      if we all CANNOT read this article,
      or even if they couldn’t do anything - absolutely, nothing in the Universe would change.
      ..
      "..A long time ago, in a galaxy, raged ... Star Wars ..
      .. Many, many years ago, somewhere in the Galaxy ...
  8. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 21 May 2013 06: 24 New
    +3
    Hysteria with a "nuclear threat" was part of a plan to eliminate the USSR, organized by a team of Trotskyists led by Andropov.
    First, the country's population was intimidated, then they announced restructuring and disarmament, thereby provoking the approval of the population ...
    We know these tricks ...
    1. Nick
      Nick 21 May 2013 07: 55 New
      +2
      This is conspiracy thesis. There are no facts ... I can not imagine the smartest, most intelligent Yu. V. Andropov an apologist for the theory of permanent revolution. It looks more like Khrushchev ...
      1. Hudo
        Hudo 21 May 2013 08: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: Nick
        I can not imagine the smartest, most intelligent Yu. V. Andropov an apologist for the theory of permanent revolution


        Yes! "Strongest", just "deadly" for the opponent in the discussion, so to speak "argument!
        Would you be kind enough to see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyniWpvRofA
        If you look at the collapse of the USSR from this point of view, then all the puzzles fall into place. And the sudden rampant of democracy (since 1985) with the indulgence of the KGB, and the ignored warning of the KGB officer supervising the Chernobyl nuclear power plant about the emergency situation at the facility http://kipras93.narod.ru/archive1.html. If in doubt, I can throw information.
        1. Nick
          Nick 22 May 2013 23: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Hudo
          Yes! "Strongest", just "deadly" for the opponent in the discussion, so to speak "argument!
          Would you be kind enough to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyniWpvRofA

          Alas, I can’t recognize your argument as completely legitimate. Kurginyan is of course friends with logic, but deductive inferences are not facts. ALAS...
      2. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov 21 May 2013 17: 57 New
        +1
        It is not a permanent revolution.
        There is a concept of psychological Trotskyism when they declare one thing and do something completely different.
  9. smel
    smel 21 May 2013 06: 27 New
    +6
    So choose for yourself the world in which you prefer to live — saved by a Soviet traitor or a West German Stasi agent.
    I do not need to choose, just as I am convinced that the United States was, is and will be my enemy. But the fact that we were on the verge of war is true, only this was not once described by the author.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 21 May 2013 06: 54 New
    +2
    Ronald Reagan, checking the microphone before addressing the American people, right before the broadcast said: “My compatriots are Americans, I am pleased to inform you today that I signed a decree on declaring Russia outlawed forever. The bombing will begin in five minutes. " This joke, uttered, as he thought, in a narrow circle, of course, was immediately heard in the USSR.

    If our General Sec. (At that time) said something similar, the mericatos would definitely begin the bombing of the USSR.
  11. 094711601
    094711601 21 May 2013 06: 58 New
    12
    Strange article! According to the logic of the author, inadequate people led our country. I apologize, "SAMODURA", from Stalin to Andropov and further on the list. “WE DO NOT RULE THE COUNTRY, AND WE PLAY IN WAR GAMES WHO FIRST PRESS THE BUTTON, THAT WAS WIN” It may be enough, under the guise of humanity and pseudo-peacefulness, to insult those who are no longer! And it is not superfluous to recall who brought a nuclear baton over the USSR immediately after the end of the GREAT WAR, and kept it in a rolled state until the age of 49, hoping for its impunity! And who needs this-to convince the people that the Cold War began again? Did it end? It seems that if the country has a strong leader, immediately / on order / clicks of different stripes begin to shout: -WORLD IN DANGER! Enough! The East-West confrontation has existed since the time of Ivan the Terrible. Well, we do not need them! We interfere with the world to rule!
  12. vilenich
    vilenich 21 May 2013 07: 00 New
    +8
    and the USA and the USSR ..., having as heads, it would seem, mentally healthy people,

    Regarding Reagan, this is overkill! The idler (who is interested, read about his leadership style) is a miserable actor by the will of fate, who fell on the powerful Olympus could say anything and create. It was lucky for them that Andropov was not long measured out to lead the USSR, and soon Gorbachev emerged at the helm of the USSR!
    1. wax
      wax 21 May 2013 10: 21 New
      0
      No matter how I try to believe in the naturalness of Andropov’s death, but it doesn’t work out.
  13. v53993
    v53993 21 May 2013 07: 19 New
    +3
    Another journalistic "duck", this time overcooked.
  14. Zubr
    Zubr 21 May 2013 07: 22 New
    +2
    I remember these years, we, too, were shocked at school. prepared for the worst.
  15. Belogor
    Belogor 21 May 2013 07: 37 New
    +4
    "Prepared from the CIA and other sources."

    Actually that’s all said, to that the site from which it is taken, also raises certain questions
  16. Kaa
    Kaa 21 May 2013 08: 03 New
    +7
    Ronald Reagan suffered from Alzheimer's syndrome, which was reported only after the end of his presidency. And this, I’ll tell you .... belay "Alzheimer's syndrome has a very diverse symptomatology. The main symptoms are gradual deterioration of memory, attention, disruption of the processes of logical thinking, loss of learning ability, disorientation in space and time, difficulty in communicating and selecting words for expressing thoughts, a general change in a person’s personality.Alzheimer's syndrome affects people of various ages, social status. The earliest case of the disease was registered at 28 years old, but mainly people 40-50 years old get this syndrome. According to statistics, in the United States alone, about 1,5 million people suffer from the disease. "Http://medbaz.com/katalog-more-79.html
    So HIS DISEASE could still not make a joke ... what
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 21 May 2013 09: 16 New
      +3
      Hello Snake ..
      pranksters, Mlyn ..
      Their happiness was that at the helm of the USSR then there were really serious people.
      Otherwise ... would be in North America .... the Nevada desert ... or islands in the sea.
      The Gulf Stream would go straight to the North Pole. In our Taimyr - oranges with bananas would grow. And the Seychelles would not have stumbled upon us.
      It's a pity...
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 21 May 2013 15: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Igarr
        Otherwise ... would be in North America .... the Nevada desert ... or islands in the sea.
        By the way, 20 years after Chernobyl, the lands began to be put into agricultural circulation again, both in Belarus and Ukraine, and now - in full swing. In addition to those who died in the early days, there was no "radiation sickness" or "crayfish", with the exception of about 1300 thyroid cancers in children over 20 years (reports of UNESCO and the UN special commission), and the "exhaust" through the "dirt" was much more than with the use of nuclear weapons ... there wouldn’t be any mutants, and "nuclear winter" is the development of theorists of the mid-80s.
    2. Gari
      Gari 21 May 2013 10: 08 New
      +1
      Thatcher
      Quote: Kaa
      disorientation in space and time, difficulties in communication and the selection of words for expressing thoughts, a general change in a person’s personality

      Man turns into a vegetable
      Margaret Thatcher and Churchill have a suggestion, too, from this disease died
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 21 May 2013 15: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Gari
        Man turns into a vegetable
        That is yes. But Churchill is supposed to have "Dvin" saved laughing Seriously, these are politicians of different brands. Churchill did not hide his anti-communism, was forced to cooperate with the USSR, wanted (after May 9, 1945) to prove his superiority on the battlefield. Thatcher bought together with bankers Gorby, opposed a united Germany ... by and large engaged. There are enemies who are respected, but she is not one of them ... not without reason some British drank champagne about her death ... I do not approve, but a fact. So God gave the destroyers of the Union - Reagan and Thatcher - according to their merits - Alzheimer's. The Lord wants to punish - first of all, it will deprive the mind what
        1. Gari
          Gari 21 May 2013 19: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Kaa
          That is yes. But Churchill is supposed to have "Dvin" saved

          It may well be - dilates blood vessels, calms the nervous and system,


          Quote: Kaa
          So God gave the destroyers of the Union - Reagan and Thatcher - according to their merits - Alzheimer's. The Lord wants to punish - first of all, it will deprive the mind


          I believe in God and supreme justice
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 21 May 2013 21: 07 New
            +1
            Bliiiiin, but I didn’t know ...
            that, I think, a bastard from Akhtamar ...
            so I, it turns out, is a hidden Churchill.
            .
            Only now ... such a psycho, no strength.
            When long without .. Ahtamara.
  17. igordok
    igordok 21 May 2013 08: 44 New
    +2
    In those days, my father worked in the Forestry Department (it was then), and he was tasked with calculating the zones of forest fires in the Pskov Region during a nuclear strike. Information was provided on what goals, how many warheads and how much power. For example, Pskov was planning to hit 3 with warheads: two - on 100kt and one on 1Мт. Everything was secret. When he told me - it was somehow scary.
  18. valokordin
    valokordin 21 May 2013 09: 11 New
    +2
    The USSR has always been preparing to repel US aggression, with the exception of the rule of the traitor labeled, we must always remember this, including now. American imperialism has not changed; we have changed, raising our hands in front of them. Now we need to focus, as Alexander2 said. Which we are doing, as you can see, and we must be prepared for this aggression in everything and always.
  19. Dimkapvo
    Dimkapvo 21 May 2013 09: 18 New
    0
    The article is a clear minus.
  20. baltika-18
    baltika-18 21 May 2013 09: 34 New
    +2
    Article minus.
    Reason: it does the Hollywood standard. Single heroes save the world.
    But what are the heroes? Traitors elevated to the rank of heroes by the unrestrained imagination of the author.
    Is it just a fantasy?
  21. not good
    not good 21 May 2013 10: 18 New
    0
    The worst weapon of mass destruction is the American dollar multiplied by the unresponsive chatter of corrupt politicians, Gorbachev’s example of how you can destroy any country without any nuclear bombs.
  22. wax
    wax 21 May 2013 10: 35 New
    +3
    Or maybe the author of the article asserts that he knows the whole scenario of the “teachings”, and that under no circumstances would the United States and the West as a whole strike the USSR? Or are all the real plans for a US nuclear attack in the USSR - these are children's games in the sandbox? Only Andropov was too tough for them - the reaction was adequate to an adequate leader of the USSR against an inadequate leader of the United States. Surely not on a separate message (or individual) decisions were made. Obviously, the “playing” side was appropriately informed of the readiness of the USSR for a preventive response.
    An anti-Russian article, based on the axiom that the United States never thought of attacking the USSR, and here we had people with the intelligence of an alcoholic ensign, and Reagan, Palin and other McCains were just SOUL. And it is not the United States that used atomic weapons in unarmed cities without military necessity.
    How tired of these empty-minded scribbling experts!
  23. OneMoreDay
    OneMoreDay 21 May 2013 11: 42 New
    0
    First, the introduction that the Americans are not stupid, but in the middle of the passage: “It is very difficult for our compatriot to understand.”

    Everything is correct, disclaimer or otmaza, they say who does not agree with the author, at least something is misunderstood. Malaaadets, looking.
  24. Captain45
    Captain45 21 May 2013 13: 20 New
    +2
    It’s not like it was described in the article. Actually, Bruce Willis stole the plan of attack from Andropov’s table, and Ivan Drago simply bit his teeth with the rocket launch control cable in NORAD and the whole war ended. Article “---”, he just read about the efforts Gordievsky and everything is clear, trying to whitewash himself. No one has canceled the death sentence for treason.
  25. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 May 2013 17: 24 New
    +1
    here is a secret document
  26. Genady1976
    Genady1976 21 May 2013 17: 38 New
    0
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  27. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 May 2013 21: 33 New
    0
    avant-garde (1) RU
    how nice that I can read this article today!


    Is that you in what sense? Did she "enrich" us with information? In my opinion - a "shadow on the wattle fence" brought.
    vlbelugin
    The article is a minus. And you have a minus. Do not scare people. I don’t remember hysteria ...

    Quite right, there was no hysteria. Exercises on civil defense were sometimes in those years, but everything went very “fun”: they dragged each other on a stretcher to laugh, imposed tires and harnesses on the “fractures”, went to bomb shelters. Everyone was in an excellent mood! ...