Ghosts of 1939

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Ghosts of 1939


February 13, 2026, Munich Security Conference. Zelenskyy stands at the podium and utters a phrase that will make headlines within an hour: the illusion that peace could be bought by sacrificing Czechoslovakia led to a world war; dividing Ukraine would mean repeating this mistake.



That same day, at the same conference, European diplomats are discussing a different Munich behind the scenes: not the one of 1938, but the one that just made the rounds in the American media following the leak of Trump's 28-point "peace plan" for November 2025 (according to Foreign Policy and several European publications). Foreign Policy called the plan a "shameful attempt to repeat the Munich Agreement." Reason called it a "new Munich," and Trump himself "the Chamberlain of the 21st century."

In Moscow during these same weeks, Lavrov reiterated on the Foreign Ministry's website that the goal of "denazification" is to ban neo-Nazi movements and purge those who preserve the "theory and practice" of Nazism. At a briefing, Zakharova described the Baltics as a space for the "rehabilitation of Nazism." Medvedev discussed a "fascist Europe."

The same historical The segment resonates on three platforms at once, in three incompatible meanings. And this segment is narrow, but the semantic link within it is important: 1938 (Munich, the Sudetenland, Chamberlain) and 1939 (the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the partition of Poland, the beginning of the war) – a pair in which the first step is explained through the second. When they say "Munich" today, they mean "that which inevitably leads to September 1939." All subsequent rhetoric plays on this link: they appeal to 1938, but they frighten with 1939.

This is the point where it is worth starting the conversation.

Denazification for all of Europe


Since February 2022, Russia's rhetorical framework has been built around "denazification." Four years later, the definition has yet to acquire any workable boundaries, which is apparently precisely its operational nature. When necessary, this framework encompasses the entire Ukrainian elite, individual sections of Ukrainian society, a veteran of the SS Galicia Division, applauded by the Canadian parliament in September 2023 (a theme to which the Russian side has been ritually returning for three years now), and, over the past year and a half, increasingly the Baltic states, Germany, Moldova, and the collective "West."

Zakharova and Medvedev methodically expanded the boundaries of the term throughout 2025–2026. Latvia and Estonia, which dismantle Soviet memorials, are portrayed as regimes rehabilitating Nazism; Germany, which supplies Ukraine with long-range weapons, as a country forgetting its own lessons; Moldova under Maia Sandu as a "second Kyiv"; and European elites as a whole as accomplices.

The logic of expansion is simple and self-perpetuating: any support for Ukraine automatically becomes support for Nazism, and therefore deserves the same classification.

Domestically, this works well. The older generation understands the language of 1941–1945 without explanation, the mobilization potential of this vocabulary is enormous, and invoking it on May 9, in State Duma speeches, and at Foreign Ministry briefings produces a consistent domestic impact. The Kremlin has a rational calculation here: the existing tool works, there's nothing to replace it with, and there's no reason to do so.

Things are worse with external audiences. When Zelenskyy, Sandu, the Latvian Minister of Culture, the German Chancellor, and the Brussels Commissioner are all labeled "Nazis," the term loses its distinctive power even for those willing to accept it. It ceases to be an accusation and begins merely to mark the front lines.

New Munich in both directions


The Western pole is symmetrical. By early 2026, comparing Putin to Hitler, and the current moment to the autumn of 1938, has become routine in European capital rhetoric. Chancellor Merz consistently repeats the formula "just as the Sudetenland of 1938 was not enough, Ukraine will not be enough either." Kaja Kallas, in Brussels and Munich, repeatedly returns to "appeasement" as a diagnosis of any approach that allows for territorial compromise. Tusk uses Munich as a universal argument against negotiations without Warsaw and Kyiv.

The acute phase began in November 2025. Following the leak of Trump's 28-point "peace plan," which, according to Foreign Policy and Reuters, envisioned significant territorial concessions and the de facto blocking of Ukraine's path to NATO, the "new Munich" formula was widely circulated in Foreign Policy, Reason, AEI, and a dozen European publications within two weeks. Trump was called the Chamberlain of the 21st century, and the negotiating process a "shameful attempt to repeat 1938."

28-point plan. Two weeks. One Chamberlain.

And here's a simple inversion. Moscow talks about a "new Munich," referring to the West's appeasement of the "Nazis in Kyiv." The West talks about a "new Munich," referring to Trump's appeasement of Putin. Kyiv talks about a "new Munich," referring to any negotiations over its own head. The same image—Chamberlain with an umbrella at the airport—is attached to three different figures in the same month.

At this point, analogy ceases to be analogy. It becomes a sign of belonging.

Right to a dictionary


A caveat is needed here, without which the entire previous passage would slide into cheap symmetry.

The all-too-easy assertion that "all sides are equally abusing history" is itself a political gesture. The German chancellor, who invokes the Sudetenland, and the Russian UN ambassador, who invokes Munich, have not only different positions but also different historical rights to a vocabulary. Germany paid for this vocabulary: with defeat, partition, decades of denazification in its original, non-metaphorical sense, and a post-war pedagogy of shame. When Merz says "Sudetenland," he speaks from within the country that gained and lost the Sudetenland, and for this learned knowledge, he has a voice.

Russia inherited this vocabulary as anything but a victor, without undergoing a comparable internal process of postwar self-reflection. The price paid by the Soviet Union in 1941–1945—27 million dead—gives the memory of the war a status to which Moscow has as much right as any other capital; the question is not the price, but what was done with it afterwards. Germany transformed its experience into a system of institutional self-criticism; the USSR and post-Soviet Russia—into an instrument of diplomatic and rhetorical attribution, a license to dispense labels. This is not a belittling of the victim. It is a recognition that sacrifice and the work of understanding it are two different things.

The symmetry we're describing here is a rhetorical symmetry, not a historical one. Failure to notice it is blindness. But failure to discern the underlying meaning is a different kind of blindness, and a more convenient one: it allows the speaker to equate themselves with their interlocutor where such equating is unjustified. When European publicists forget this, they lose part of their argumentative power. When Russian publicists forget this, they lose the opportunity to be heard beyond their own circles.

When the third party refuses to play


If the asymmetry of dictionary rights is an issue the parties to the conflict cannot resolve because any decision would mean a concession, then sometimes a fourth party decides for them. The most telling episode of the last year and a half is neither Russian nor Western.

In January 2026, it was announced that Yad Vashem had denied Zelenskyy permission to speak. Yad Vashem Director Dani Dayan explained this in an interview: he understood the intended purpose of the speech and did not want to provide it with a venue.

"Not every war crime is genocide, and not every genocide is the Holocaust."

In Ukraine, Dayan added, there were not only victims of the Holocaust, but also accomplices, and in some cases, the main perpetrators

This is a rare instance where the person in the conversation, who holds perhaps the greatest moral authority, refuses to play the proposed game. Dayan doesn't object to Zelenskyy politically: he refuses the currency in which the bargaining is conducted.

Meanwhile, damage to Jewish memorials in the war zone continues, including, according to Ukrainian claims, strikes near Babi Yar, where more than 33,000 people were killed in two days in 1941. After each such incident, the Russian side accuses Kyiv of desecrating the memory, while the Ukrainian side accuses Moscow of Nazi barbarity. Yad Vashem remains silent in this exchange of accusations. This silence is more meaningful than either statement.

The last time a similar story reached the point of open scandal, in May 2022, after Lavrov's remarks about "Hitler's Jewish blood," Putin was forced to personally apologize to Israeli Prime Minister Bennett. By 2025–2026, the apology regime had practically ceased: the Kremlin no longer smooths over historical comparisons, and Jerusalem no longer expects smoothing over. Both sides had developed a habit.


Why 1939?


Yad Vashem's gesture brings us back to a more general question. If a third party can abandon the dictionary, why can't the first and second? Why, despite the obvious wear and tear of the analogy, do people continue to return to it?

The answer seems to be that there is nothing to replace it with.

Europe and Russia share few historical coordinates. The Cold War as a language is compromised by the disintegration of its results: one side considers itself the loser, the other a partial winner, and they lack a common narrative. The post-bipolar "liberal order" as a language is compromised by its own inadequacy: even those who spent twenty years building it are unable to appeal to it seriously today. The period between 1991 and 2014 produced not a single figure fit for a common vocabulary.

There remains 1939, the last point around which all three sides can still agree on who is evil. It is the foundation of Russian memory (as the war and the Victory), European memory (as a lesson in appeasement and a commitment to "never again"), American memory (as a moment of moral leadership), and Ukrainian memory (as a complex, but ultimately reworked, narrative of victimhood and resistance).

It is the last common currency, and that is why it is used to pay for everything.

The problem is that the currency devalues ​​from overuse. When Putin, Zelensky, Trump, and von der Leyen (the latter, for now, in the comments, but increasingly so) are all called "Hitler," the name ceases to denote a specific historical evil and becomes synonymous with "enemy." When "Munich" refers to any deal the speaker dislikes, "Munich" ceases to mean anything. When "Nazism" is applied to a veterans' march in Riga, a Ukrainian battalion, German supplies, and the Hungarian government, the concept disappears as an analytical tool.

All that's left is the label. The label doesn't explain; it only tells you who to throw it at.

A symptom, not a disease


The 1939 analogy isn't the cause of the degradation of political discourse, but rather its indicator. The real problem is that Europe, Russia, the US, and Ukraine lack a common language to describe what is happening between them now. There is no agreed-upon vocabulary for hybrid warfare, for a partially frozen conflict, for the disintegration of the post-bipolar order, for the energy, migration, and informational entanglements of the 2020s. All the words that could describe this either belong to one side (and are therefore unacceptable to the other) or don't exist.

In this void, 1939 emerges as the only universal translator. Everyone uses it, not because it's accurate, but because there are no others. Each subsequent use makes it slightly less accurate, and thus makes the next use slightly more likely, because there are fewer and fewer other options.


There are two ways out of this situation, both difficult. The first is to develop a new vocabulary for the current situation, which requires intellectual work for which the warring parties have neither the time nor the trust. The second is to accept the absence of a common language and learn to conduct business without it, through technical, concrete, private agreements that make no claim to historically qualify the events.

For now, the third path has been chosen: to continue using 1939, even though it's becoming increasingly dysfunctional. This is perhaps the most honest description of the European political moment in the spring of 2026: all participants see that the tool is becoming dull, and they continue to use it because there's nothing to replace it with, and silence is more frightening than repeating it.
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  1. + 11
    9 May 2026 07: 34
    There's one flaw in this otherwise excellent article: we currently lack a leader comparable to Stalin. This is where it's worth reflecting on the role of personality in history. The author clearly underestimated this!
    1. +5
      9 May 2026 08: 19
      Here we can only supplement Cicero's famous phrase - O, times, O, morals! (O tempora, o mores!) with a modern interpretation - Oh, these people, oh, these morals!
      Implying a change in people's attitudes towards the events of a past era to similar ones in the present.
      The whole problem is that humanity has to pay for the mistakes of incompetent politicians with the lives, blood, and suffering of thousands and millions of people.
    2. +5
      9 May 2026 08: 51
      Propaganda campaigners from different sides use the same terms in completely opposite senses. What's surprising about that? It's an information war!
    3. +3
      9 May 2026 09: 23
      Rather, it was Lenin and his associates.
    4. +6
      9 May 2026 09: 26
      All with HAPPY MAY 9TH HOLIDAY!

      The war is like the leader. And we ourselves, let's be honest, are generally "weaker" than the people of 1941, of whom "Nails could be made"Individual Heroes DO EXIST! They deserve honor and respect. But "mass heroism" is no longer a thing.
      1. +7
        9 May 2026 10: 19
        Quote: Bayun
        The war is like the leader.
        Such a leader, such a war or "SVO".

        Quote: Bayun
        But there is no longer any “mass heroism”.

        In the fifth year, with the selfish interests of the fat cats... Heroism already lies in the fact that the men are fighting, storming every village.
    5. +5
      9 May 2026 19: 54
      We only have a leader comparable to Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Nicholas II, and Tsar Shuisky. That is, a negative leader, like a blank space, only worse.
    6. P
      -1
      9 May 2026 20: 24
      In today's world, the Russian Federation occupies a place similar not to the USSR, but to Poland or Romania in the 193s and 194s.
      1. P
        +3
        11 May 2026 13: 53
        I don't understand the downvoters. Russia isn't a socialist country, Russia isn't a global hegemon, Russia isn't a significant contributor to global production, and its share is declining. Russia isn't a global leader in military thought, technology, or social structure. In the current situation, Russia objectively can't claim the laurels of the USSR, even though it's in the center of military operations.
  2. +7
    9 May 2026 08: 34
    We were lucky then to have strong leaders, led by Stalin, and equally strong men of the time. We were lucky that we managed to purge as much as possible of those who might betray us, and most importantly, of those who would definitely sell out. We were lucky to purge those who loved to crunch on a French roll, like the cadets. Now, these aforementioned figures greatly influence many decisions about the war and our daily lives.
    1. +1
      9 May 2026 09: 19
      Quote: igorra
      It was lucky that they managed to cleanse as much as possible of those who could betray and, most importantly, of those who would definitely sell out.

      The baby was washed away with the bathwater—all the passionaries were purged, and any possibility of the system's development was eliminated. All that remained was a gray mass unwilling and unable to ensure the adaptation of the public administration system to the realities of the times.
    2. 0
      9 May 2026 09: 42
      From lovers of crunchy French bread
      - Oh really? Marshal Kulik immediately comes to mind.
  3. +6
    9 May 2026 08: 38
    It's not entirely fair to compare those times with today and try to draw conclusions. Back then, Hitler, Chamberlain, Daladier, and Mussolini were all like-minded anti-communists. Hitler was the most anti-communist, and the Munich plan eventually worked, but not entirely...half of Europe became communist. Now, the slogan "we're our own...bourgeois" has failed just as it did in earlier times...the desire to please Europe is a shameful desire...we should pay less attention to this old woman and try to somehow analyze her policies...this is unrealistic due to the changed proportions of voters...Islam is taking the lead. We should focus more on our own problems and not try to push them off onto "that nasty Englishwoman" and "Obama in the hallway." And our Foreign Ministry, along with the guarantor, is portrayed on television as some kind of arbiter of the world's destinies...yes, with our declining standard of living, we should keep quiet and try to improve the government's reputation in the eyes of our own people.

    OUR CAUSE IS JUST, WE WILL WIN...
    1. -1
      9 May 2026 09: 22
      Quote: Konnick
      Yes, with our declining standard of living, we need to keep quiet and try to improve the government’s reputation in the eyes of our own people.

      Ensuring an improvement in the standard of living of citizens and "enhancing the government's reputation in the eyes of its own people" are usually incompatible things.
      1. +3
        9 May 2026 09: 39
        Quote: NordOst16
        Ensuring an improvement in the standard of living of citizens and "enhancing the government's reputation in the eyes of its own people" are usually incompatible things.

        Why not? What about Franklin Delaney Roosevelt? He overcame the Great Depression, raised his own and the state's standards of living, and, of course, even Europe began to envy America's standard of living.
        1. +3
          9 May 2026 09: 49
          In the same vein as Hitler and Mussolini! If you recall, they actually raised the standard and credibility of the government! And which of the three, including Roosevelt, is more to blame for the general bloodbath? You'd better double-check. Hitler wouldn't have come to power without American money...
          1. +4
            9 May 2026 09: 52
            So, without America, we would not have accomplished the Great Industrialization before the war, which saved us.
            1. +3
              9 May 2026 10: 21
              That's a long shot. There were two industrially developed countries that, before they started screaming, eagerly sold technology and trained engineers to the USSR in exchange for food—the USA and Germany. And who saved whom is also a question mark.
              There aren't any like that right now, so we're just tinkering around with the cleaning, because we can't buy technology for bread yet, although that's exactly where Europe is heading, especially since we have technology to offer—no one but us has really been able to build nuclear power plants for a long time. Look at the American Vogtl, and then at Finland's Olkiluoto.
            2. 0
              9 May 2026 19: 58
              Without America, Germany would have had nothing to fight with. They sold us for free currency, and they built ten times more for the Germans on credit. Then Ford even wrested compensation from the US government for the bombing of his factories in Germany.
            3. +2
              10 May 2026 09: 02
              And for American companies, Soviet contracts, orders, and concessions were also a salvation.
              And don't get me wrong, the Yankees carried out this economic cooperation without ulterior motives. They needed a strong USSR so they would have someone to stop Hitler if he overstepped his bounds and became too dangerous for American interests.
              The United States aided Germany to weaken the British Empire, its main rival, through German means. The United States aided the USSR to tame the Reich once it had eliminated England as a strong competitor.

              And yes... the German influence was also strong in our industrialization at the time, and we were able to obtain a lot from the Germans (including the latest weapons). Engines for the T-34 were produced using German machine tools. The 85mm anti-aircraft gun in the USSR was based on the 88mm German anti-aircraft gun. These anti-aircraft guns later became the basis for tank guns of the same caliber. So the 85mm gun of the T-34-85 and the 88mm gun of the Tiger are, in a sense, related...
              1. 0
                10 May 2026 23: 41
                So the 85 mm gun of the T-34-85 and the 88 mm gun of the Tiger are kind of related
                - a stunning conclusion. And all living creatures have a common ancestor. And they are also, as it were, related.
              2. +1
                11 May 2026 01: 39
                And by the way, the USSR paid for many things with gold.
        2. +3
          9 May 2026 13: 28
          Quote: Konnick
          What about Franklin Delone Roosevelt?
          The Great Depression was overcome by World War II, from which the United States made colossal profits, trapping the entire capitalist world in the dollar and, having become the pole of capitalism, the leader and master of this global system. Pearl Harbor, that sacred sacrifice and the nation's righteous anger, instantly transformed public opinion in the United States, allowing entry into the war. The story of how the aircraft carriers were removed from the base and the battleships considered invulnerable remains murky, as the Japanese lacked armor-piercing bombs at the time, and aerial torpedoes proved ineffective at shallow depths (analysis of the British attack on the Italian fleet at Taranto). At Pearl Harbor, the depths were even shallower. However, the Japanese created ersatz bombs from armor-piercing shells and modified their torpedoes for shallow waters. British intelligence had read Japanese codes and knew about the attack, so Roosevelt must have known, too. Whatever happened, it will be a classic for the Yankees—these sacred sacrifices and causes for righteous anger, be it the Twin Towers or a vial of white powder.
          Now the EU is the US's six, while Germany, still occupied by the Anglo-Saxons, is being used as new cannon fodder against Russia, just as the same Anglo-Saxons once brought the Anglophile Hitler to power and turned Germany, defeated in World War I and bound by Versailles, into the anti-USSR. These parasites know how to rake in the coals with someone else's hands.
          Now the USSR is gone, there's no leader like Stalin. What's left is Russian capitalism, plucked from the dustbin of history, with its newly minted "counts," renegades and degenerates, henpecked by the West, and the Central Military District, where the Soviet Union's reserves of strength have been eroded for five years, with deals and gestures of "we were deceived." They deceived the common people in 1991, under the guise of "democracy," a sham with the CIS, instead of a renewed Union, and privatization under Chubais. That's the extent of the standard of living for the world's leading parasite, whose capitalism is teeming with a new Great Depression and crisis. This can only be "cured" by war, for bloody profits and debt write-offs at someone else's expense. This is where it's all heading, with the Yankees initially sitting it out overseas, and the Germans and all sorts of Poles joining forces to finish off the remnants of Soviet greatness in capitalist Russia.
        3. +2
          9 May 2026 19: 56
          Well, he was only able to do this when the Japanese started bombing Pearl Harbor. Before that, it’s unlikely that people loved him for confiscating gold and other pearls.
          1. 0
            10 May 2026 09: 06
            Quote from alexoff
            Well, he was only able to do this when the Japanese started bombing Pearl Harbor. Before that, it’s unlikely that people loved him for confiscating gold and other pearls.


            He did love him. He voted for FDR FOUR times. Still, it's a record.
            Thanks to the "pearls" of the economic program of Roosevelt and Keynes, America was able to climb out of the deep a... into which the "free market" had led.
    2. bar
      +1
      9 May 2026 11: 15
      Quote: Konnick
      It's not entirely accurate to compare those times with today and try to draw conclusions. Back then, Hitler, Chamberlain, Daladier, and Mussolini were all like-minded in their anti-communism.

      And now the leaders of Gayropoe are all aligned in their Russophobia. So nothing has changed. The word "communism" is superfluous here; Russophobia has always existed and will likely continue to exist.
      1. +1
        9 May 2026 16: 03
        Quote: bar
        Quote: Konnick
        It's not entirely accurate to compare those times with today and try to draw conclusions. Back then, Hitler, Chamberlain, Daladier, and Mussolini were all like-minded in their anti-communism.

        And now the leaders of Gayropoe are all aligned in their Russophobia. So nothing has changed. The word "communism" is superfluous here; Russophobia has always existed and will likely continue to exist.

        All anti-communists are Russophobes
        1. bar
          +4
          9 May 2026 16: 33
          Quote: Konnick
          All anti-communists are Russophobes

          Yasenpen. There were communists in Russia, and Russophobes called themselves anti-communists. The communists are gone, and Russophobes have simply become Russophobes again. They don't change; it's genetic.
          1. +2
            10 May 2026 09: 08
            In general, Russophobes' anti-communism hasn't gone away. Apparently, they themselves don't really believe in the final collapse of communism as an ideology. Freudianism, indeed. laughing
    3. -2
      9 May 2026 11: 54
      Moreover, they themselves were actually building communism in its worst form.
  4. + 10
    9 May 2026 08: 54
    Lots of slof))
    Perhaps, we should understand it this way: the Kremlin and others' appeal to part of the ideology of the socialist era of 38-45 is failing, since the imperialist elite simply could not provide clear definitions that everyone could understand - what is actually happening.

    IMHO, so far everything fits into the Imperialism’s method of operation.
    The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer, new markets are being captured/lost, the poor are at the front, the elite are in the rear, the full names of common heroes are long forgotten, the media are filled with speeches from all sorts of "Experts" and Leaders of the Nation, all sorts of "democratic freedoms" that hinder Imperialism are being discarded, "economic optimization" (layoffs) has begun against the backdrop of blah-blah about record salaries and record life expectancy (although the population is falling even with migrants and new districts)
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  5. + 11
    9 May 2026 08: 58
    We've been searching for common ground ever since Yeltsin said, "God bless America." The reformers thought it was the West that fought the Reds, and we would live in friendship and prosperity. But it turned out the West didn't care what color the Russian bear's skin was. It wanted the skin itself. And what's happening in Europe now? Those who hid their Nazi past have put it on display. And why shouldn't they be proud? There's no force capable of fighting Nazism. Everyone has lost that force now. After all, this isn't just about missiles, but about people's consciousness.
  6. +2
    9 May 2026 09: 06
    There remains 1939, the last point in relation to which all three sides can still agree on who is evil here... Ukrainian memory (as a complex, but ultimately reworked plot of victimhood and resistance).

    The ideology of Ukrainianism fits this definition perfectly. For it is the idea that in the center of Europe there exists a people with special rights, to whom everyone is indebted – because all their neighbors have historically wronged, conquered, and enslaved them. But at its core, Ukrainianism is a fusion of Nazism, the idea of ​​a superior nation, and BLM, with its manipulation of feelings of guilt. Ukrainianism exploits the same technology of such manipulation and considers itself Übermensch. Incidentally, this is confirmed by the experience of Ukrainian refugees in European countries, who, upon arrival, begin to demand extraordinary living conditions for themselves solely on the grounds that they are Ukrainians. Ukrainianism today is an ugly fusion of Nazism, with its idea of ​​a superior nation, and BLM, with its manipulation of feelings of guilt.
    Incidentally, war experience shows that the longer and harder it takes to destroy an enemy, the easier it is to control the defeated enemy. Not only will the most committed and motivated fighters perish, but the fear of a new conflict and hard times will become the victor's greatest ally.
    Look, the Japanese are still kissing the Yankees' boots, and the Germans too...
  7. -3
    9 May 2026 09: 20
    The lack of will to fight Nazism gives rise to the rules of expressing indignation and puffing out one's cheeks.
    The elimination of Zelensky and his accomplices could change much. After four years of war, the line that defines complete victory over the Nazis is becoming blurred. Even the regime's capitulation will offer no guarantee of a repeat of these events, for hundreds of thousands of rabid nationalists will remain who will continue the fight through terrorist methods, while in a rabid, insolent Europe, unaware of the bitterness of death and the horror of destruction, they will remember the distant year of 1939...
  8. +1
    9 May 2026 09: 33
    Or maybe the Ukrainian people should admit not to danazification, but to de-Ukrainization—that is, to fighting aggressive separatism in language, history, and culture. From the very beginning of Ukraine's independence, these "independenceists" have tried to suppress the Russian language. There's Petliura, who forced the removal of Russian-language signs in Kyiv... There's Kravchuk and Kuchma, who signed decrees translating technical and specialized literature into Ukrainian... and words had to be urgently invented in Ukrainian... Why didn't our bourgeoisie notice this separatism? Why didn't they recall diplomats when they tore down the monument to N.I. Kuznetsov and renamed streets after Hitler's lackeys, thus changing history?
    Yes, because the goal was one... anti-communism... as were the authors of the Munich conspiracy of 38.
    1. 0
      9 May 2026 09: 55
      What does anti-communism have to do with this? The same thing happened with signs from Triboltika to Kazakhstan: pure Russophobia, anti-communism—that's for Europe, there's no other kind there. And with the collapse of the USSR, purest cave-dwelling Nazism erupted: we, the Georgians, Tribolts, Ukrainians, or Uzbeks—are a great nation, while the Russians are slaves.
      1. 0
        9 May 2026 10: 37
        Quote: Foggy Dew
        What does anti-communism have to do with this? The same thing happened with signs from Triboltika to Kazakhstan: pure Russophobia, anti-communism—that's for Europe, there's no other kind there. And with the collapse of the USSR, purest cave-dwelling Nazism erupted: we, the Georgians, Tribolts, Ukrainians, or Uzbeks—are a great nation, while the Russians are slaves.

        Nazism arose as a means of combating communist parties.
        1. +2
          9 May 2026 11: 45
          Nazism was copied from the British, and there were no communists in sight back then. The first fascist state, yes, but the second, no, that was the Weimar Republic... Well, that's just a side note. Today's fascism isn't against communism, but purely against the Russians, "imperial ambitions" and so on.
          1. +1
            10 May 2026 12: 47
            Quote: Foggy Dew
            Nazism was copied from the British, and there were no communists in sight back then.
            You might also remember the Romans, from whom the British copied the alphabet, as if not understanding the essence of spelling, but having well mastered how convenient it is to have colonies.
            Fascism arose in Italy under Benito Mussolini (the Italian word "fascismo" comes from the Latin "fascis," meaning "bundle, bundle"), based on the desire to restore the former might of Rome under an iron dictatorship. Hitler's Germany is different; its emergence would have been impossible without the Anglo-Saxon desire to create an anti-USSR. That's where Nazism emerged as the antagonist of internationalism (communism). Germany was bound by the restrictions of Versailles; had the West so desired, Nazism would have been nipped in the bud, but the bourgeoisie needed it.
            All the current Russophobia isn't against the West's henpecked Russian husbands, those bad boys who milk and squeeze Russia dry, transferring assets to foreign banks and in foreign currencies. It's against the great Soviet legacy. Everything has been destroyed and optimized, except for the raw materials extraction. And that's the problem for the renegades: the Soviet nuclear missile shield remains. Until they surrender their strategic nuclear forces, they won't be "like before," when the global master of capitalism fed them. And they must surrender without resorting to bayonets and pitchforks, for outright treason.
            Perhaps that's why the "SVO" started this, portraying Russia as the aggressor after recognizing the coup in Kyiv and Ukraine's territorial integrity. They want to ruin and bleed Russia dry, to create ruins and scorched earth in the Ukrainian territories already sold to the West. These frontal assaults on endless villages are already at a standstill, five years in, warehouses and arsenals are being emptied, and already enemy drones are striking as far as the Urals. How daring, then, to sell oil to the enemy, to limit the army to this "operation"... Maybe this is a cunning plan, to do what they could to get the ultimatum accepted, for the sake of peace and humanism? The West doesn't need a strong Russia in any form, especially when it is currently the only country in the world that can destroy the United States with Soviet nuclear potential.
        2. 0
          10 May 2026 13: 50
          Nazism is not something fundamentally new. Nazism emerges when traditional methods of maintaining power over the exploited cease to work effectively or become too expensive. This is precisely the situation that developed in the Weimar Republic after the onset of the global crisis known as the Great Depression.

          If Nazism had been merely such a means, then after the defeat of the communist movement in Germany, the elite there would have simply abandoned Nazism, as it would have lost its relevance. But the problem of keeping the workers in check remained; the energy of class struggle needed to be redirected into a channel safe for the upper bourgeoisie.

          The surest way to end the proletarian class struggle is to turn the proletarians into petty bourgeois, allies of big capital. And to accomplish this, foreign expansion is needed, taking from foreign proletarians, feeding them their own, gagging them with the most reliable gag—a piece of sausage.
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            10 May 2026 15: 57
            Quote: Illanatol
            Nazism is not something fundamentally new. Nazism emerges when traditional methods of maintaining power over the exploited cease to work effectively or become too expensive. This is precisely the situation that developed in the Weimar Republic after the onset of the global crisis known as the Great Depression.

            I'd like to counter that, if we're not getting confused about the terms, Nazism is derived from the abbreviation National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), or also Hitlerism. Hitler's Nazism should not be confused directly with nationalism and fascism.
            The point is that German Nazism arose not to destroy the Weimar Republic, but to combat the main problem of capitalism of that era – the new, independent pole of power on the planet, the Soviet Union.
            As for the proletarians, they don't necessarily need to be turned into petty bourgeois; the morality of consumers with a cult of money is enough. For many now, the affordability of foreign cars, the abundance of diluted beer, and trips to Turkey, for example, plus social media as a drug, is a real stimulant. Add images of an eternal holiday with fireworks and PR, and it's a powerful tool.
            The fact that the country is being strangled, that there is degeneration, degradation of education and healthcare, is already a fifth matter, the main thing is here and now "bread and circuses", in this, indeed, nothing fundamentally new has been invented for the plebs since ancient Rome.
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        10 May 2026 09: 11
        Because in practice, it is communism, socialism, if you will, that can put an end to the narrow-minded nationalism of these local "elites." The latter understand this perfectly well and understand that only these "Rusnya" can bring back socialism; no one else can.
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    9 May 2026 12: 19
    The topic is not bad.... but only as an evidence of the fact that
    agreed vocabulary
    Achieved only at the moment of defeat of one of the parties in the terms of capitulation. Then something is written into the so-called "international law," which is exclusively the right of the victors over the vanquished, so to speak... "gently":)). Then -- "peaceful (cold:)) life," when the vanquished caresses... and secretly sharpens a knife.
    After our own would-be theorists didn't even utter a word when the locally raised sacred cow: "revolution is essentially a change in the social order" was sent to the slaughter by the Westerners with "color", "velvet" and other blatant coups under the flag of "revolutions"... That's how, by the right of the stronger, a "common dictionary" is compiled!
    About which
    meanings
    Is anyone going to speak up? They're trying to convince a FRIEND, who's already friendly on some level, while they're only coercing an enemy. This is the theory of class struggle, when the need to unite "all workers" against "all exploiters" was proven. But back then, the rationale was obvious.
    Either a new association will be created with a proven need for socially useful labor, or prepare yourself for an iron heel on your neck....
    rhetorical attribution
    Well said!:)) I must remember....
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    9 May 2026 20: 23
    The inclusion of the Munich Agreement is a progressive step in considering the start date of WWII, but by 1939, World War II had already been going on for eight years. Japan launched a war against China, the existing international law was destroyed, hundreds of thousands died, and Japan shifted its economy to a war footing.
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    9 May 2026 20: 32
    Quote: Konnick
    Quote: bar
    Quote: Konnick
    It's not entirely accurate to compare those times with today and try to draw conclusions. Back then, Hitler, Chamberlain, Daladier, and Mussolini were all like-minded in their anti-communism.

    And now the leaders of Gayropoe are all aligned in their Russophobia. So nothing has changed. The word "communism" is superfluous here; Russophobia has always existed and will likely continue to exist.

    All anti-communists are Russophobes


    Therefore, all Russophiles are communists.
    There can't be communists in other countries. They don't even speak Russian there, in their own countries.
    /s
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    9 May 2026 20: 36
    Quote: Pandemic
    The inclusion of the Munich Agreement is a progressive step in considering the start date of WWII, but by 1939, World War II had already been going on for eight years. Japan launched a war against China, the existing international law was destroyed, hundreds of thousands died, and Japan shifted its economy to a war footing.


    Try your hand at history.
    WWII began in 1931.
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    9 May 2026 20: 43
    Quote: Foggy Dew
    What does anti-communism have to do with this? The same thing happened with signs from Triboltika to Kazakhstan: pure Russophobia, anti-communism—that's for Europe, there's no other kind there. And with the collapse of the USSR, purest cave-dwelling Nazism erupted: we, the Georgians, Tribolts, Ukrainians, or Uzbeks—are a great nation, while the Russians are slaves.


    Why is it that roads are built by so-called Armenians, houses are built by so-called Uzbeks and Kazakhs, and vegetables are sold by so-called Azerbaijanis?
    And we invite them.
    Are we, you and I, so rich that we don't want to work? Or are we, you and I, willing to work, but no one wants to pay us for it?
  15. +2
    9 May 2026 20: 51
    Quote: Nikolai Malyugin
    We've been searching for common ground ever since Yeltsin said, "God bless America." The reformers thought it was the West that fought the Reds, and we would live in friendship and prosperity. But it turned out the West didn't care what color the Russian bear's skin was. It wanted the skin itself. And what's happening in Europe now? Those who hid their Nazi past have put it on display. And why shouldn't they be proud? There's no force capable of fighting Nazism. Everyone has lost that force now. After all, this isn't just about missiles, but about people's consciousness.


    What the tongue won't blurt out when the brain is asleep.
    What fascism and Nazism? Intel, Rafeon, Lockheed, Rheinmetall, Tata... Are they Nazis?
    So Gazprom, Lukoil, Sibur and our others are communists?
    The struggle of big capital. And no one counts the small change.
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      10 May 2026 09: 17
      Quote from Fangaro
      What fascism and Nazism? Intel, Rafeon, Lockheed, Rheinmetall, Tata... Are they Nazis?
      So Gazprom, Lukoil, Sibur and our others are communists?


      "The only way to escape the Dragon is to have your own Dragon."

      The problem is, Raytheon, Lockheed, and Rheinmetall are truly Nazis. Foreign Nazis at that. Apostles of technotronic fascism. For whom, by and large, Russians are no longer needed, even as slave labor.
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    10 May 2026 06: 19
    There was no partition of Poland in 1939. What happened was the occupation of Poland by Nazi Germany and the return of territories previously occupied by Poland to the USSR.
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    10 May 2026 18: 21
    Quote: Illanatol
    Quote from Fangaro
    What fascism and Nazism? Intel, Rafeon, Lockheed, Rheinmetall, Tata... Are they Nazis?
    So Gazprom, Lukoil, Sibur and our others are communists?


    "The only way to escape the Dragon is to have your own Dragon."

    The problem is, Raytheon, Lockheed, and Rheinmetall are truly Nazis. Foreign Nazis at that. Apostles of technotronic fascism. For whom, by and large, Russians are no longer needed, even as slave labor.


    "The problem is, Raytheon, Lockheed, and Rheinmetall are truly Nazis. Foreign Nazis at that..."

    Did you read what you wrote? So, you're saying there are non-foreign Nazis, meaning our own, and that our Nazis are better than foreign ones?!
    When you quarrel with a neighbor from Georgia or Germany, do you also consider yourself a good Nazi and them bad Nazis?
    Or am I misunderstanding something?
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      11 May 2026 08: 00
      Our Nazis are no better. But foreign Nazis are worse.

      If you have to fight the Germans, you may not consider them Nazis, but you will consider them bad a priori.
      During the First World War, the Germans were not, strictly speaking, Nazis, but for the Russians they were still bad.

      Well, if we're assessing the current regime in Russia... it can't be compared to the Reich, but it does have a lot in common with Franco's Spain. Ilyin and Mannerheim are certainly favored by some of the current elite.

      P.S. I will definitely consider myself a good person, no matter what. Otherwise, it would be masochism. laughing
  18. 0
    10 May 2026 23: 12
    What about terminology and its conceptual content? Even the facts and realities differ between the two sides. A conversation with any content, not just ambiguous ones, devolves into complete nonsense. The traders shout: "Gas, gas, who needs gas? We're selling Russian property cheap." And in response, the Euro-Trotskyists declare: "Take your gas off the market everywhere! If you don't listen, you'll lose not only your pipelines but also your fleet." These characters are unable to reach each other for obvious reasons, not only because their histories are different, but also because their meanings in life are different.
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    10 May 2026 23: 19
    The peculiarity is that the parties are represented by people who are completely incompatible in their purpose (not their character), and who are incapable of being replaced. It's no coincidence that Putin wants Schröder as his interlocutor on European affairs. This is a clear signal that this is how things stand.