Why are engineers pulling ropes into the sky again?

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Why are engineers pulling ropes into the sky again?


In the 2020s, engineers returned to an idea that was last seriously discussed in the 1940s: stretch something across the plane's path and let it fly into it. No electronics, no explosives, no expensive missilesThe idea is so simple that it's embarrassing to look at after seven decades of jet aviation, guidance systems, and network-centric warfare. And yet, it works again—because a multimillion-dollar missile versus drone for several thousand it doesn't add up well to the arithmetic of war.



Expensive rocket versus cheap drone


When the first series of Houthi UAVs began operating in the Red Sea in 2023–2024 Samad (Samad) and its accompanying anti-ship missiles, a problem previously discussed mainly at conferences has emerged. The attack vehicle is assembled from commercial components and costs as much as a used car. The interceptor missile costs as much as a small house. With a one-to-one ratio, the defense goes broke faster than the offense can go over budget.


Open-source figures vary, but the pattern is consistent: each interception of a cheap aerial target cost the defending side two to three orders of magnitude more than the target itself. Furthermore, a ship's missile supply is finite, while its drone assembly line is not. This gave rise to a question that had previously seemed academic: how to shoot down a flying moped without the economy eating away at the defense before the enemy does.

The question is actually an old one. Military technology has known several eras when a cheap, mass-scale threat defeated expensive, individual defenses, and engineers had to come up with a response from available materials.

Bolo, nets, and ropes: how they caught flying fish before drones


The oldest idea at work here is the bolo (or bolas) of South American shepherds: two or three weights, tied together with a rope, are thrown in a spinning motion and wrapped around the animal's legs. The principle is straightforward: not to hit, but to immobilize. It is this analogy that modern developers refer to, and for good reason: everything that comes next replicates the same mechanics in one form or another.


The first mass-produced “tackle against expensive threats” appeared on navy — anti-torpedo nets used on battleships and ironclads at the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries. A ship at anchor would lower steel nets along its sides using specially designed launchers. A torpedo from the Russo-Japanese War would get stuck in the net before reaching the side or explode at a safe distance. Cheap, crude, and effective, as long as the torpedo remained slow.


The battleship (battleship) of the Russian Imperial Navy "Evstafiy" was equipped with anti-torpedo nets, which are visible along the side in the photograph.

The same logic was repeated in the air in the 1930s and 1940s. Barrage balloons over London, Moscow, and Leningrad carried steel cables—an obstacle in the altitude zone where dive bombers and low-altitude bombers operated. An aircraft that struck a cable with its wing would, at best, be damaged; at worst, it would lose control. artillery finished off the rest.


A balloon apron used for the air defence of London during World War I.

The British went further than anyone else. In 1940, they developed the PAC— Parachute and Cable ("Parachute and Cable"). The system fired a cable vertically upward, carrying a parachute and a small mine at the end. A dive bomber, snagging the cable with its wing, pulled it along; the parachute opened, the mine was pulled in, and detonated. Conceptually, this is today's KIT chain, only on a one-to-one scale and with a warhead at the end. With the advent of jet aviation, the idea faded into obscurity: planes began flying too high and too fast to be caught by the taut line. For eighty years, it was barely remembered.

KIT: A chain instead of a rocket


The return happened in Germany. Karlsruher Institute for Technology (Karlsruhe Institute of Technology) is a major research center formed in 2009 by the merger of the University of Karlsruhe and the national research center Research Center Karlsruhe (Karlsruhe Research Center) presented a setup that fires thin metal chains at an approaching drone. According to open source reports from 2024–2025, the chains are approximately three to four millimeters thick.


Now things get interesting, and it's important to distinguish between two different mechanisms. The first is rotor capture. A chain link catches on a propeller blade, the instantaneous rotation wraps the remaining chain around the motor shaft, and the propeller locks. For a single-rotor aircraft, this immediately results in a loss of thrust. For a quadcopter, it means a loss of control: the three remaining motors can't compensate for the asymmetry, and the aircraft collapses. The second mechanism is frame entanglement. A long chain wraps around the arms and the frame, simultaneously catching several propellers and preventing the electronics from stabilizing the aircraft. In practice, both effects often work together, and which one is triggered is irrelevant in a falling drone.

The chain is crucial, not a rope or a solid object with weights. A rope slips and breaks; a solid object produces a pinpoint impact, which the quadcopter, with luck, survives. A chain combines flexibility and weight, and has links that almost guarantee the blade will catch.

The authors have not yet disclosed the details of the tests. Publications indicate that computer modeling was followed by a full-scale testing phase, and that the developers plan to expand field testing. The precise parameters of the system, including its range, projectile velocity, and launcher type, have not been publicly disclosed. This is an early stage of the project, not a production product; all that can be said about combat effectiveness so far is simply "the concept works." To the developers' credit, they themselves are not promising a universal solution: the chain system is designed for close-range combat, against low-flying commercial and home-grown drones. This is its niche, and it's a small one.

Niche Neighbors: What Else is Used to Catch Drones?


The KIT chain isn't the only return to an old idea. The Russian protective-capture network "Darwin", introduced in 2024, operates on a similar logic, but in a stationary configuration. Its cells are designed for two-stage operation: first, they expand to approximately double their original size, absorbing the impact energy, and then they hold the drone as a rigid structure. The key is to catch the drone before its warhead detonates, rather than destroying it along with itself. The manufacturer claims that a single net is capable of detaining a mid-range drone.

The weak point is obvious and common to all mechanical defenses: the network is stationary and disposable within the impact zone. A breached cell is an open door for the next drone. Therefore, the Darwin shield makes sense not as a point shield, but as a perimeter around an object, designed for hit statistics rather than a single interception. A chain launcher, by contrast, is an expendable projectile, not an expendable perimeter section; these are different tactical roles, with the overall goal of "catch, not destroy."

In parallel, UAV interceptors with suspended nets and cables, conventional nets on tripwires over vehicles and positions, and infantry equipped with shotguns are operating. This is all the low-level engineering that has grown out of practice in the Eastern European theater in recent years: from factory designs to homemade garage creations.

The "classic" answer to the same question is small-caliber anti-aircraft artillery with programmable projectile detonation. Family Bushmaster Northrop Grumman's Bushmaster, chambered in 25mm and 30mm, reliably targets drones within a radius of several kilometers. But the projectile, with its programmable fuse, costs as much as a good smartphone, and the chain costs as much as scrap metal from a warehouse. With a large number of targets, the cost gap quickly adds up.

All mechanical solutions have a common limit: altitude. Nets, chains, and cables work only where they can be physically extended; against a drone flying at an altitude of two kilometers and the speed of a jet, they are useless. Miracle-weapons It doesn't work from this branch, and none of the developers claim it.

Where is this place in defense?


The chain system is not a replacement Defense, and its lowest and cheapest floor. Its natural location is the outer perimeter of the protected facility: an oil depot, a warehouse, a command post, a bridge. Where it can reach not a Kalibr missile or a cruise missile, but a commercial quadcopter with a gimbal or a homemade kamikaze craft.

Alongside chains, other low-cost solutions are also exploring the same niche. In February 2026, a German company announced DroneHammer (The "Hammer for Drones") is a small laser-guided missile costing around 2500 euros and with a claimed range of approximately two kilometers; production prototypes are promised by the end of 2026. There are many approaches, and this is normal for the early stages: no one yet knows which solution will be widely adopted.

It's expected that in the next few years, the lower reaches of anti-drone defense will be filled with precisely these types of devices—simple, inexpensive, and easily repaired. The cables that were strung over London eighty years ago have become shorter, thinner, and more flexible in the 2020s. The idea itself has returned unchanged and, apparently, is here to stay.
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  1. +5
    10 May 2026 04: 21
    And they didn't set up anything around the oil refinery, at most there were guards with guns.
    1. -1
      10 May 2026 07: 37
      They pulled it off... But many treated these issues perfunctorily. Gaps remained. And the Ukrainians don't just strike at random. They have a well-developed network of agents who take detailed photographs.
      Again, precision... It's impossible to hit with such accuracy using GPS signals alone. There have to be misses. But here it's 10 out of 10. So either there were beacons, or someone on site was distributing internet.
      And let's not forget that the area of ​​Permnefteorgsintez is 148 hectares.
      1. 0
        10 May 2026 15: 14
        Quote: ism_ek
        It is impossible to hit with such accuracy using GPS signals alone.
        Why is that? Geraniums, without any markers, had an accuracy of plus or minus five meters, while surveyors generally set boundaries with millimeter accuracy.
        1. 0
          10 May 2026 22: 00
          Land surveyors generally establish boundaries with millimeter accuracy.

          I thought that there is civilian GPS accuracy (and probably GLONASS?) and military accuracy?
          Where do surveyors get their military-grade precision from? I'm not arguing, I'm just curious... Although, advanced tractors plowing automatically require precision of better than 5 meters. Who, in general, provides them with this precision (resolution)?
          1. +1
            10 May 2026 22: 40
            The Americans turned off the "civilian" accuracy of plus or minus half a block back in 2000, now the military signal is only more stable and protected, and the accuracy is the same in the absence of jammers
            1. 0
              10 May 2026 23: 11
              Yeah, thanks for the clarification. Does GLONASS have a different accuracy rating?
              1. 0
                11 May 2026 00: 17
                There's separation, but the accuracy is the same. Jamming the signal for civilians is a legacy of the Cold War, and now it's peace, friendship, and cud. Well, there's no war, just the SVO.
    2. +4
      10 May 2026 12: 02
      Quote from alexoff
      And they didn't set up anything around the oil refinery, at most there were guards with guns.

      A long-range UAV weighs about a ton. It's typically a light aircraft with a warhead instead of a pilot. What are you going to put in there to contain a diving projectile of that mass?
      1. -1
        10 May 2026 15: 13
        What did our grandfathers string together? And how accurately will the drone fly? Will it be able to break everything and fly on? Has anyone tested this and found out?
        1. -1
          11 May 2026 01: 56
          The British also hung small fragmentation mines on anti-aircraft nets...
          1. -1
            11 May 2026 02: 39
            They somehow, back in those antediluvian times, found drones over the sea and shot them down. Right with their own planes. They were fibbers; they could have simply said the debris was damaged.
    3. -2
      10 May 2026 19: 50
      This is how the oil refinery in Moscow is protected.
      It's just that the owners of these refineries in the regions are cheapskates who rely only on the state and don't invest in such protection and don't consider it necessary to pay for private air defense, which is why they burn out.
      1. -1
        10 May 2026 20: 26
        Quote: Sergey Mitinsky
        This is how the oil refinery in Moscow is protected.
        It's just that the owners of these refineries in the regions are cheapskates who rely only on the state and don't invest in such protection and don't consider it necessary to pay for private air defense, which is why they burn out.

        What nonsense is this? Protecting citizens and strategic enterprises is the state's first and foremost duty! That's probably why the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces was fired. Even though no one explained anything about it.

        Incidentally, major corporations requested permission to create their own armed security forces. They were categorically forbidden. Now they don't even have a security detail. All weapons are stored by the National Guard.
        1. -3
          10 May 2026 20: 52
          Well, this isn't nonsense.
          This is nonsense in your head.
          In Ukraine, for example, this idea is fully understood, because a drowning man must save himself. And saving private property should be the responsibility not only of the state, but also of the private property owners themselves.
          And it's not about handing them weapons, but about getting them to fork out for protection from the state.
          These guys are not poor, they have money.
          And this money should be invested not in London and the Cote d'Azur, but in the country where you earn this money.
          This will be fair, and not some other way, as they want.
          1. -1
            11 May 2026 13: 02
            Quote: Sergey Mitinsky
            And it's not about handing them weapons, but about getting them to fork out for protection from the state.

            More nonsense. Both businesses and individuals pay taxes. And they're not small by global standards. And recently, additional levies related to the SVO were introduced. And how has this helped specific businesses?

            In your opinion, neither citizens nor companies have the right to defend themselves like that. Let them hand over their last money, and someone else will figure out how to spend it.
            1. -3
              11 May 2026 14: 43
              What time period do you live in?
              How do you imagine this time?
              You're living in the midst of World War III, and here you are, with the ease of a 3s cheapskate, chattering about how you regularly pay your taxes and expect the authorities to protect you from all sorts of troubles for this civic feat of yours while you warm your belly in the Maldives.
              That time is over, dear comrade, it's time to wake up.
              And mobilize, if there is something you still don’t understand.
          2. +1
            11 May 2026 13: 41
            Quote: Sergey Mitinsky
            And it's not about handing them weapons, but about getting them to fork out for protection from the state.
            These guys are not poor, they have money.
            And this money should be invested not in London and the Cote d'Azur, but in the country where you earn this money.

            The problem, it seems, is that the wealthy might ask, "What exactly did I spend my money on?" And what garden vegetable is this that costs so much, as if you were making it out of gold? wink
            1. -3
              11 May 2026 14: 50
              Why would only the wealthy ask this?
              The poor can also ask
              And what exactly did the money go toward that the wealthy robbed us of? And what kind of garden vegetable is each of these crooks hiding their income with and refusing to pay back the money they stole from us?
        2. -1
          10 May 2026 22: 04
          Quote: Saxahorse
          Quote: Sergey Mitinsky
          This is how the oil refinery in Moscow is protected.
          It's just that the owners of these refineries in the regions are cheapskates who rely only on the state and don't invest in such protection and don't consider it necessary to pay for private air defense, which is why they burn out.

          What nonsense is this? Protecting citizens and strategic enterprises is the state's first and foremost duty! That's probably why the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces was fired. Even though no one explained anything about it.

          Incidentally, major corporations requested permission to create their own armed security forces. They were categorically forbidden. Now they don't even have a security detail. All weapons are stored by the National Guard.

          It seems a law has been passed authorizing the transfer of weapons to the Russian National Guard for the protection of strategic and other facilities.
          1. 0
            11 May 2026 13: 04
            Quote: lshka
            It seems a law has been passed authorizing the transfer of weapons to the Russian National Guard for the protection of strategic and other facilities.

            They have tanks and artillery. How does that help the oil companies, for example? Or even the unarmed guards at Crocus?
  2. +6
    10 May 2026 04: 26
    The most correct solution is to destroy the drones, or rather, their mass accumulation in enemy territory. Along with their operators. But how to do that? The first thing that comes to mind is reconnaissance, which shouldn't be spared. Surely there's some logical chain of movement for the drones, from their production site, which should also be turned into lunar dust, to the LBS?
    1. +1
      10 May 2026 17: 13
      Well, copters can be printed and assembled in any apartment in a high-rise building, and you won't even notice. They can be delivered to the LBS as individual parts, then quickly assembled by the operator and off they go. How will you identify them?
  3. Owl
    +2
    10 May 2026 05: 23
    UAVs equipped with cables and nets are what is possible (under current legislation) for equipping private security companies to protect industrial and other facilities from helicopter-type UAVs launched by terrorists from short range.
  4. 0
    10 May 2026 05: 38
    Yes, the idea is good. The balloons rise to an altitude of 30-40 meters. A high-strength, ultra-fine nylon net is stretched between them. It reaches an altitude of 0-15 km. Not every missile will be able to reach a balloon at such an altitude of 40 km. And if it is made without any metals, then even detecting it is difficult. All these small-scale drones should get caught in this net, like ruffs and bleaks. Frankly, I've come to hate UAVs for their nasty capabilities. I'm almost joking - they should be banned from production, otherwise this pest is already worse than nuclear weapons. The production and maintenance of nuclear weapons is expensive. And not everyone can produce them. Like gold. And UAVs are like candy wrappers with portraits of petty tsars, churned out by anyone who feels like it, increasing the value of gold on which civilizations lasted for 1000 years.
  5. +2
    10 May 2026 07: 13
    Until detection systems are developed, as was the case with submarines, there's no point in talking about defense. It all comes down to the number of drones produced.
  6. 0
    10 May 2026 07: 23
    Well then...we'll have to change! As the saying goes: If you want to live, you'll do even more! First, a "modernization" of old ideas and solutions...and then we'll get to telekinesis! With a caveat...: Whoever has enough Mind and Will!
  7. +1
    10 May 2026 08: 27
    If a Christmas tree or similar quad-interceptor is imagined as a warhead with separable warheads - loads connected by a network (at the final stage / according to the number of propellers), each of which is a flying wing, then why not a bolo / web like this?

    Night guidance using four microphones and software (based on the number of shared warheads).

    Network by the center in a tube with an ejector charge

    Or a tube with a parachute
  8. -1
    10 May 2026 08: 37
    Wouldn't it have been simpler, in 2022, immediately after February 24th, to mobilize a couple million people + immediately start recruiting volunteers + prisoners + not to flail around everywhere, but to invade from Belarus along Ukraine's western border, completely cutting it off from its western neighbors and then cook Ukraine up without any problems and without help from the West?
    1. -3
      10 May 2026 09: 14
      Yes, but why?
      For what?
    2. +1
      10 May 2026 10: 27
      How simple everything is for you. It turns out a military operation against Europe's largest country can be organized in a couple of days, not a year or two like the foolish Americans did in Iraq.
    3. +1
      10 May 2026 10: 40
      Quote: Antony
      Wouldn't it have been simpler, in 2022, immediately after February 24th, to mobilize a couple million people + immediately start recruiting volunteers + prisoners + not to flail around everywhere, but to invade from Belarus along Ukraine's western border, completely cutting it off from its western neighbors and then cook Ukraine up without any problems and without help from the West?

      To do this, you'd have to be the United States or the USSR. And today's Russia is fundamentally incapable of this. The Soviet-Russian War has long since become a full-blown, brutal war of attrition, requiring the urgent mobilization of the economy to end it as quickly as possible. But under the current circumstances, this is impossible.
    4. -1
      10 May 2026 12: 56
      If only...if only grandma had wheels then...grandma would be a bicycle...and if we go back to the origins, then in the winter of 2022 they successfully "helped" Kazakhstan + our glorious biathlete deer...evod, probably (like Voroshilov to Stalin before the Winter War of 1939) that we...oh...and it turned out a little better (although if you add up the losses over these 4 years, it might be the same...especially since nothing has been decided yet)
    5. 0
      10 May 2026 20: 59
      Quote: Antony
      Wouldn't it have been easier to mobilize a couple of million people in 2022, right after February 24?
      They tried to mobilize 300 men, but it turned out there was nothing to equip them with (1.5 million uniforms were only on paper), nothing to arm them with (weapons from storage often need to be put in order first, and the people who could do that were optimized). People rushed not only to Georgia but also from enterprises, including the military-industrial complex (they also run military registration and enlistment offices; by the time they figured out how to issue reservations, the younger workers had already left). There was no one to command them (officers had been optimized even under Taburetkin; there are former students, of course, but they can go into technical work, not command). They looked into the matter and decided not to do it again. For now.
  9. 0
    10 May 2026 08: 38
    It is also possible to theoretically imagine a relatively large-sized interceptor UAV like a geranium, for example, in the form of a discus, in the center of which is located a magazine of drop nets, which can first be rotated 90 degrees at the moment of catching (for accuracy) and after catching, discarded and automatically pulled from the wide end
  10. -1
    10 May 2026 09: 51
    I don't know how it is now, but Soviet specifications for new equipment often included increased parameters for the future. By analogy, I would imagine the goal as providing counter-drone protection for individual targets: from a specific person to a specific location or object. Assuming that future drones will be perfect in terms of guidance and will also utilize the enemy's information resources. Given that the number of potential targets will exceed billions, such an ideology is clearly unworkable. The solution is obvious: there should be no drones. Ukraine's hostility must disappear.
  11. -1
    10 May 2026 10: 02
    IMHO, it's repeating the line of thought from WW1 and WW2. But remember, they were abandoned after a while.
    Already now, it has been written, UAVs have begun to use the 2-3 strike technique.
    1st - destroys the net, 2nd hits the same place, 3rd finishes off.

    IMHO, the future belongs to cheap interceptors, practically made from plastic water pipes.
  12. +1
    10 May 2026 12: 53
    I'm looking at a picture of the British hot air balloon net and I can't believe it. The weight of the net should pull the balloons together, but do they have enough thrust to resist it? And the net's windage should also be blowing them away. And the net is clearly drawn in the photo; it can't be that thick. It looks like a project that was never realized.
    As for the German chains, the main issue is the way they deploy and the ability to hit a fast-moving target with a single line of chain. It's like swatting flies with a saber. Expandable nets are far more promising.
    1. +1
      10 May 2026 20: 03
      The picture is certainly drawn, but the idea is quite sound.
      An aerostat on a single cable will certainly be blown away, but secured at at least three points, it will remain static.
      Another question is what will happen if this balloon is shot down?
      But then, for a drone to attack an object, this is exactly what needs to be done. And that's a completely different story for air defense, waiting for an attack at a specific point, than waiting for an attack from an unknown source and at an unknown altitude.
      1. -1
        10 May 2026 21: 10
        Quote: Sergey Mitinsky

        An aerostat on a single cable will certainly be blown away, but secured at at least three points, it will remain static.

        If he also carries stretch marks, will he be able to handle such a load?
        Here, we need to consider the balloon's volume, its lift, and its payload (including guy wires). In the case of steel cables, this load may be too much for existing balloon models.
        1. 0
          11 May 2026 00: 38
          Will endure
          If they don't take out three balloons in this diagram, they will take out five
  13. -1
    10 May 2026 14: 17
    thin metal chains are fired at the approaching drone

    Nets, cables, and chains are archaic, expensive, and complicated. If you're going to shoot at a drone, it's best to use a standard load of solid shot—cheap and effective. To avoid recoil, you need a single-shot round with a discardable counterweight, which can be the gun barrel itself. An interceptor drone can have several such barrels.
  14. 0
    10 May 2026 15: 55
    Maybe we should just give every adult a shotgun?
    Saw a copter, fired, and there was no more UAV.
    No, perhaps I was a bit hasty with my suggestion.
    I celebrated my coming of age and saw a UAV in my neighbor.
    1. 0
      11 May 2026 08: 57
      Quote from Fangaro
      Maybe we should just give every adult a shotgun?
      Saw a copter, fired, and there was no more UAV.
      No, perhaps I was a bit hasty with my suggestion.
      I celebrated my coming of age and saw a UAV in my neighbor.


      Who will give weapons to the people!?

      And that's why mercenaries are still used.
    2. 0
      Yesterday, 00: 40
      Novel, you my friend have got far far to much common sense
      on how to destroy a simple drone copter,
  15. +2
    10 May 2026 15: 58
    Quote from cpls22
    I'm looking at a picture of the British hot air balloon net and I can't believe it. The weight of the net should pull the balloons together, but do they have enough thrust to resist it? And the net's windage should also be blowing them away. And the net is clearly drawn in the photo; it can't be that thick. It looks like a project that was never realized.
    As for the German chains, the main issue is the way they deploy and the ability to hit a fast-moving target with a single line of chain. It's like swatting flies with a saber. Expandable nets are far more promising.


    And between the balloons is a telescopic tube. About 300 meters. Made of lighter-than-air nanoplastic. It just needs a few billion to make, and it'll work.
    /S
  16. 0
    10 May 2026 18: 08
    "In the 2020s, engineers returned to an idea that was last seriously discussed in the 1940s: stretch something across the air and let the pilot fly into it." - Yes, there were balloons with cables (the so-called "barrage balloons"). In London, there was a problem for German pilots. We used the same thing.
    1. +2
      10 May 2026 20: 58
      Engineers come up with different ideas, like catching (the key word is catching) drones with nets in the sky, why not with nets on long poles, or launching balloons with sticky tape into the sky (maybe someone will stick). The main thing is that they pay for the idea.
  17. 0
    10 May 2026 21: 10
    I think drones should be countered with interceptor drones. This would be inexpensive (long range isn't necessary (saving on batteries), and it doesn't require special resistance to electronic warfare (an enemy drone won't be able to jam anything serious—the batteries won't be enough). All that's required is high speed (acceleration can even be achieved with a gunpowder charge, if the drone's design can withstand such acceleration). The issue is enemy detection. Standard radars aren't enough. We need a standard guidance system that uses a network of microphones, electronic intelligence sensors capable of detecting UAV correction systems, sensors for distorting cellular base station fields, and a computer that can process all of this (in principle, this problem can be solved without AI; hydroacoustics have similar capabilities). Then we can cover large areas inexpensively. It's inexpensive if we use civilian components as much as possible and don't frame it as a military-industrial complex contract, but rather manufacture it as a civilian product.
  18. -1
    11 May 2026 09: 26
    All these distortions stem from the weakness of our industry and technology. This weakness is twofold: the lack of investment, which Nabiullina has blocked, and the lack of a clear order from the Ministry of Defense.
    .
    Meanwhile, simple hardware and software solutions make it possible to avoid the need for such nonsense. Figuratively speaking, we're being offered the chance to chip away at submarine hulls with scuba divers' picks and crowbars instead of inventing sonar and depth charges. Sonar is certainly more complex than a pick, but it can be made.
    .
    Just give them money, resources, permissions, and protect them from the budget cutters who follow every project and sit on every living thing like crows on a dead carcass.
  19. 0
    14 May 2026 17: 14
    Quote: Saxahorse
    Quote: lshka
    It seems a law has been passed authorizing the transfer of weapons to the Russian National Guard for the protection of strategic and other facilities.

    They have tanks and artillery. How does that help the oil companies, for example? Or even the unarmed guards at Crocus?

    1. I expressed myself incorrectly: a private security company guarding an oil refinery can obtain weapons from the Russian National Guard. 2. No one has cancelled out the need for private security companies to have the necessary weapons skills (although I wanted to write "grandmothers-guards" (like Gaidai))
  20. 0
    15 May 2026 12: 30
    Quote from alexoff
    There's separation, but the accuracy is the same. Jamming the signal for civilians is a legacy of the Cold War, and now it's all about peace, friendship, and chewing gum.

    Yeah, yeah. No wonder GPS systems go crazy in some parts of Moscow. I recently noticed I was driving my Niva along the Moscow Ring Road at 280 km/h, and I didn't know where I was. Same thing in the Stolbovaya area – the GPS is completely jammed, there's no internet, no cell phone service. Still, there's a bang every now and then. I don't know what.
  21. +1
    17 May 2026 20: 41
    Mikhail Pervov
    In the fall and winter of 1941, Moscow was indeed protected by barrage balloons. But virtually all German aircraft were shot down by anti-aircraft fighters and anti-aircraft artillery. Stretch nets over the vast city of Moscow was impossible. Barrage balloons rose to an altitude of 2,5 kilometers. Bombers flew at an altitude of 4 kilometers. Tandem balloons rose to 5 kilometers. But they were few in number. Already with the second raid on Moscow, the Germans raised the bombers' altitude to 6-7 kilometers. If a German bomber snagged a cable, it continued flying. To increase their effectiveness, explosive charges were attached to the cables. But such cables were very dangerous to lower to the ground if the charge failed to detonate in the air. Only two barrage balloon regiments—the 1st and 9th—were formed to cover Moscow. Their effectiveness was zero. A drone is 10 times smaller than a bomber. No networks or wires will help, even if they are stretched near the defended object at a low altitude.
  22. 0
    Yesterday, 00: 34
    for close in effect, then whats the problem with giving shot guns to the populace.
    surely if all the peoples were armed with shot guns, firing at theses quad copters, they would not be getting thru,
    night time maybe a bit awkward, but daytime, they be like shooting clay pigeons
    and will be a lot cheaper than any thing else
    and ordinary people would be able to defend themselves and others, not relying on the state