In Russia, it is now legal to keep your mobile number when moving to another region.

The Russian government has established the ability to keep a mobile phone number when moving to another region. The corresponding document has already been signed, and the change will come into effect on September 1 of this year.

To take advantage of the interregional phone number portability option, subscribers must submit a corresponding application to their telecom operator. This application can be submitted either in person or remotely—through the telecom operator's official website, the official website of the operator's database of ported subscriber numbers, or through the government services portal.

As is well known, when moving to another region, subscribers typically retain their mobile phone number and continue using their previous plan, which often makes calls to subscribers in the new region significantly more expensive. The Cabinet of Ministers notes that it will be possible to keep your previous mobile number when moving to another region even if you change your mobile operator. This is extremely important if your new location lacks reliable coverage from your previous operator's network.

The mobile phone number portability procedure is part of the action plan for implementing the Communications Industry Development Strategy until 2035. The Cabinet of Ministers' press release stated that the innovation will make communications services more flexible and convenient for citizens.

Comments

[al3x]

Oh, thank you, boyars, the serfs appreciate your concern. At least they've allowed something in recent years. It'll probably snow, though, technically speaking, all this roaming is just a rip-off for no apparent reason.

[Deaf]

Quote: al3x

It's probably going to snow.

Well, it was recently in Moscow and it was -2

[Dedok]

Well, it was recently in Moscow and it was -2

and not only in Moscow...

[awdrgy]

Perhaps the point isn't the permission. Not the permission to leave, but the next step toward permission to change.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: al3x

At least something has been resolved in recent years.

I think the operators themselves have been ready for this for a long time. We don't have regional mobile operators, so what technical difficulty could there be?
The only problem is that the operators were willing to do it for a fee, but the Emperor thought their layer of black caviar on the sandwich was already too thick. He decided to give the people a gift at their expense. It's not much money for the operators, but it's a plus for the Emperor; the people appreciated the thoughtfulness. parties and governments.
Everyone is happy.

Quote: al3x

From a technical point of view, this whole roaming thing is just a rip-off out of nowhere.

But be careful with this one... This isn't some kind of number transfer from one branch to another. This is an attempt to undermine the very existence of black caviar on their sandwich and replace it with sausage. Although the butter won't go anywhere.

[Dedok]

It seems to me that the operators themselves have been ready for this for a long time.

So, how do they imagine the "digital concentration camp" they are building - if it is necessary to change the phone number when moving to another region?
There are only questions about such an inconsistent policy, even in this...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Dedok

It seems to me that the operators themselves have been ready for this for a long time.

So, how do they imagine the "digital concentration camp" they are building - if it is necessary to change the phone number when moving to another region?
There are only questions about such an inconsistent policy, even in this...

It would seem that this is natural.
Twenty years ago, you could lose your Nokia 3310 while drunk. Now, so much is tied to your phone that if you change your number, you'll wake up in a psychiatric hospital with severe amnesia and a complete loss of identity. There's nothing left. So how do you change your number?

I bought a new phone a month ago, and changing my work number cost me a hundred text messages. THAT'S IT. Because a phone is for making calls...

[Deaf]

Quote: Zoldat_A

And now so much is tied to your phone that if you change your number, you'll wake up in a psychiatric hospital with severe amnesia, complete loss of identity. There's NOTHING. So how do you change your number?

It's a known fact. I had a SIM card for almost 20 years. It was a real shambles dance, crying, and shamanic songs. I was fed up with running around the authorities. It was simply registered to someone who no longer exists.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Deaf

It was registered to a person who no longer exists.

It doubles the "pleasure" of transferring a digital identity...

[Fat]

The region code changed not when moving, but when losing the SIM card. Roaming within Russia is already free with most major mobile operators.

[Jcvai]

Quote: Zoldat_A

the operators themselves have been ready for this for a long time

I doubt it.
Not all tariffs do not have separate pricing for long-distance and domestic roaming.
Those with unlimited calls or thousands of minutes within Russia won't notice. But those with 100-200 local minutes...
While it used to be possible to simply charge based on the first group of digits, it's more complicated now. On-network charges are still manageable, but what about external charges via a gateway?
So by September 1st, we expect either a postponement due to a “lack of technical feasibility” (such complex systems are not easily fixed) or a massive change in tariffs.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: JcVai

Not all tariffs do not have separate pricing for long-distance and domestic roaming.

Nobody's talking about roaming. As far as I understand, it's simply the transfer of a number from one regional operator branch to another. It's not like it's "ours" in both places.

[Jcvai]

Let's define some definitions.
Roaming in the Russian Federation – movement within other regions of Russia while maintaining the same conditions (no changes to the services provided and their pricing)
Long-distance is a call made by a subscriber in one region to a subscriber in another region.
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Accordingly, now I have a basic tariff for n minutes in my region, and only for the operator's numbers within Russia. To call numbers of other operators in other regions, I either have a separate tariff for each call, or a separate paid option to extend the local minutes package to all of Russia.
On one of the backup networks, calls to another region and to the "home" region are charged differently on a per-minute/per-second basis.
That's the thing about long-distance calling. If I call a friend in Irkutsk on his old +7924, it won't be part of my minutes package.
Now imagine this friend ported his number to my region: my calls to him were no longer covered by his plan, and all his Irkutsk contacts with similar local plans suddenly incurred unexpected charges. That's what the client is talking about.
Now about the technical part. When my PBXs handle calls through a single gateway, everything is simple. But when each operator has its own gateway with its own rates, in addition to a constantly updated database of all domestic numbers ported between operators, I also need to maintain a database of all numbers ported between regions. Plus, while the number of routing rules was previously optimized using DEF codes, now the load increases due to the need to sort through yet another database of ported numbers. This means increased complexity: higher load, higher probability of failure, etc. This is about "operator readiness and willingness."

[Coward]

What roaming are you talking about? Apparently, national and intra-network roaming were abolished in 2019.

[Aag]

Quote: Coward

What roaming are you talking about? Apparently, national and intra-network roaming were abolished in 2019.

I was just chatting on WhatsApp with friends and classmates from Riga...
I can't always do this even within the city (the capital of Eastern Siberia...). Yes, even the TV freezes regularly...
Payments (electronic) - rarely, but it also happens - are slow and costly.

[Coward]

What is the connection between internet slowdown and roaming?

[Aag]

Quote: Coward

What is the connection between internet slowdown and roaming?

Via the Internet for free.

[Deaf]

Anything for Max! Anything for victory! (c)

[Azimutt]

Is there any website where I can find out the real mobile operator (OPSOS) and the region where my phone is linked?

[alexboguslavski]

There is. And not just one.

https://opendata.digital.gov.ru/registry/numeric/search-by-number/

https://www.nic-t.ru/bdpn/bdpn-proverka-nomera/

https://www.spravportal.ru/Services/PhoneCodes/MobilePhoneInfo.aspx

[Amateur]

Wasn't domestic roaming cancelled back in 2019?

[awdrgy]

Do you think it's roaming? I doubt anyone cares about your spending.

[Aag]

Quote: awdrgy

Do you think it's roaming? I doubt anyone cares about your spending.

IP telephony - I used cards to call Riga...
Now via WhatsApp (for now)
A phone call was twice as expensive as a call to the US...

[awdrgy]

Wow! Why go to Riga? They don't seem to be very friendly with us there, that is, they're completely against us.

[Good Evil]

They cancelled it. But it's still alive and kicking. Hidden in the tariffs.

[Jcvai]

Look at the fare conditions, for example, when traveling to Crimea or the Far East.

[Coward]

They say that those who back up their words with evidence go to heaven.

[Jcvai]

Is it because of religion that you can't access the websites of the main operators, or are there restrictions when visiting from abroad?
https://moscow.megafon.ru/corporate/mobile/roaming/national/crimea

In Crimea and Sevastopol, special terms apply to calls unless additional options are activated. Near Crimea and Sevastopol, base stations may be able to receive signals from these areas. If this occurs, special terms will also apply.

https://www.alloincognito.ru/spb/private-mobileinternet/private-mobileinternet-archive/unlimited-internet-for-phone

Unlimited traffic is available within your region and while traveling within Russia on the Beeline network, with the exception of the Beeline Far East tariff zone (the Sakha Republic (Yakutia), Primorsky Krai, Khabarovsk Krai, Amur Oblast, Kamchatka Krai, Magadan Oblast, Sakhalin Oblast, Jewish Autonomous Oblast, Chukotka Autonomous Okrug, Republic of Buryatia, Irkutsk Oblast, and Zabaykalsky Krai), the Republic of Crimea, and Sevastopol. Unlimited traffic is not available while in the Beeline Far East tariff zone, or while traveling within Russia on the networks of other operators or in international roaming. Payment is made at the rates specified in your tariff plan.

[Jcvai]

As a follow-up: yes, work is underway to eliminate domestic roaming. Last year, B4 archived plans with restrictions on Sakha, Yakutia, and other regions. Yes, B4 removed it from the current Far East (I think), but many people are still using last year's and older plans, and the terms and conditions for all of them haven't changed.
As for Crimea and Sevastopol, there are still current restrictions in place.
Our country is vast: removing domestic roaming between Moscow and St. Petersburg doesn't mean it's removed throughout the entire Russian Federation. Not to mention applying it to all existing tariffs.

[Coward]

Isn't it your religion to just post proof right away? Do you have to be clever?

[Jcvai]

My apologies: I perceived this request as aggressive because, until relatively recently, almost all unlimited plans had speed and data caps for the Far East, which any mobile plan user could see in the plan description or unlimited option. Just as many now have "special conditions" for Crimea and Sevastopol. (In other words, it was a request for the obvious.)