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As Crimea almost did not become Israel

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As Crimea almost did not become IsraelMay 9 - on Victory Day - we will remember our grandfathers, who, having died, brought us peace. And it seems that the main milestones of the Great Patriotic War are known: the battle of Moscow, Stalingrad, the Caucasus, Kaliningrad, Warsaw, Berlin. But even after almost 70 years, we do not know everything about this war. The enormous work to uncover the "hidden historical mines ”of war is conducted by Andrey Karaulov in his program“ Moment of Truth ”. The editorial board of "AN" decided to support a good cause.


Today we will talk about how the US blackmailed Stalin with the opening of a second front. And why the peninsula of Crimea is still an apple of discord.

History of the Jewish Question


It all started long before the war. In 1920, after the liberation of Crimea from the troops of General Wrangel, Soviet sages faced the question - what to do with it? Before the revolution, the peninsula was a summer dacha for royal families, landowners and nobles. Agriculture on the fertile lands involved German immigrants and Jews, endowed with numerous benefits. The privileges of the new government immediately selected. And in the Crimea they thought - why should we feed Moscow? Through societies and unions, for example, the German “Bunde-Story” or the Jewish consumer cooperative “Amateur”, ex-migrants began to look for ways out to compatriots abroad.

Germany after the Versailles Peace Treaty lay in ruins. But Jewish lobby in the United States interested in the Crimea. In Simferopol, taking advantage of the plight, the sly sneaky charitable Jewish organization "Joint" climbed. The exact name is the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee. Agro-Joint, which actively assisted the Crimean Jewish colonists, began to actively operate. He financed the arrival of new settlers and the training of national personnel in local educational institutions of the Crimea.

Already in 1923, in the USSR and the USA, independently of each other, they began to discuss the idea of ​​resettling Jews from Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia to land in the Black Sea region and creating national autonomy there. The head of the Jewish section of the RCP (b) actively lobbied for this idea. Abram Bragin. Already fatally ill, Lenin even visited the “Jewish Pavilion” at the All-Union Agricultural Exhibition 1923 of the Year sponsored by the Joint. In November 1923, Bragin prepared a draft document according to which for the 10 anniversary of the October Revolution it was proposed to form an autonomous Jewish region in the Northern Crimea, southern steppe part of Ukraine and the Black Sea coast up to the borders of Abkhazia, with a total area of ​​10 million dessiatinas. There should have been resettled already 500 thousand Jews. He was supported by Bukharin, Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev, Rykov.

If you can not win - buy


At the end of the 20's, seeing the position of Moscow, "Joint" began to negotiate with the Kremlin to issue a very decent loan secured by the Crimean lands. The agreement was signed at the beginning of 20 of the entire top of the RSFSR. The Joint allocated 900 thousands of dollars a year during 10 years under 5% per annum. Also planned payment of additional amounts to 500 thousand dollars a year. Total - about 10 млн. still secured with gold, full-weighted dollars. To repay the Soviet state was from 1945 to 1954 year.

- Millions of hectares of the Crimean land were divided into shares. Two hundred largest financial and political surnames of America - Rockefeller, Marshall, Warburg, Roosevelt (and his wife Eleonora), Hoover and others bought these shares, - the chairman of the interdepartmental commission for research of archives of the KGB of the USSR with the rank of vice-premier told the “Moment of Truth” program Mikhail Poltoranin. That is aThe merikish Jewish lobby turned out to be the largest landowner of the Crimea.

Almost parallel to the flat areas of the Crimea there was the resettlement of the Crimean Tatars. Mutual insults began between arrivals and Tatars, sometimes turning into pogroms.

- Tatars deployed trains with Jews from Simferopol back to Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria. Pogroms have already settled Jewish families. It ended with the fact that Stalin said - "we can not kindle the flames of interethnic hostility." And in 1934, he created Birobidzhan, - says Mr. Poltoranin.

The branch of the "Joint" in the USSR was liquidated by the Decision of the Politburo of the CPSU (b) from 4 in May of 1938. But in the United States, they did not abandon the idea of ​​taking the Crimean lands. And a new act of tragicomedy broke out during World War II.

Change the "second front" on the cake

Since the beginning of World War II, American newspapers have written very little about the atrocities of the fascists in our occupied territories. But in all details painted the defeat of the Soviet troops. Public opinion was not in favor of our country. Moreover, there is a catastrophic lack of money for the purchase abroad of food, medicine, weapons. After all, Lend-Lease for our country was not at all free.
In order to solve these two daunting tasks, Stalin gave the go-ahead to the creation of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee (EAC). The chairman of the presidium was the artistic director of the State Jewish Theater. Solomon Mikhoels. Responsible Secretary - Shahno Epstein, the vice-chairman is a poet and playwright Itzik Fefer. In 1943, the EAC delegation went on a tour of the Americas and England. For an almost semi-annual trip to the fund of the Red Army, about 32 million dollars were raised. More than 500 thousand people attended lectures and rallies of representatives of the USSR. Information blockade has been broken.

But the Americans would not be them if they did not derive their fully material benefits from such a show. The creation of “Crimean California” —an independent Jewish state — is a recurring theme at the meetings of Mikhoels and Fefer at meetings with the American and English establishment. Millionaire D. Rosenberg bluntly stated: "The Crimea interests us not only as Jews, but also as Americans, since the Crimea is the Black Sea, the Balkans and Turkey." Also, the Soviet delegation hinted that the first loan that Lenin issued could not be repaid. It is only necessary for the Kremlin to give the go-ahead to the creation of a Jewish state. Then they will even throw some money on the development of the Jewish Crimea - almost 10 billion dollars.

The idea has penetrated deep. Already in February, an interesting document was prepared in the EAC, which was put on the table by the First Deputy Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars Vyacheslav Molotov. The document is worthy to quote it.

“During World War II, a number of questions arose related to the life and structure of the Jewish masses of the Soviet Union. Before the war in the USSR, there were up to 5 millions of Jews from the western regions of Ukraine and Belarus, the Baltic states, Bessarabia and Bukovina, as well as from Poland. In the temporarily seized by the fascists of the Soviet areas, it must be supposed that at least 1,5 a million Jews were exterminated.

At one time, the Jewish Autonomous Region was established in Birobidzhan, with the prospect of turning it into a Jewish Soviet Republic, in order to solve the legal and legal problem for the Jewish people. It must be recognized that the experience of Birobidzhan, due to a number of reasons, primarily the insufficient mobilization of all possibilities, as well as its extreme distance from the location of the main Jewish laboring masses, did not produce the desired effect. But, despite all the difficulties, the Jewish Autonomous Region has become one of the most advanced regions in the Far Eastern region, which proves the ability of the Jewish masses to build their statehood. Even more, this ability is manifested in the development of the created Jewish national regions in the Crimea.

In view of the foregoing, we would consider it expedient to create a Jewish Soviet Republic in one of the areas where this is possible for political reasons. It seems to us that one of the most suitable areas would be the territory of Crimea, which most closely meets the requirements both in terms of capacity for resettlement and as a result of successful experience in the development of Jewish national areas there. The creation of the Jewish Soviet Republic would once and for all resolve, in the Bolshevik manner, in the spirit of Leninist-Stalinist national policy, the problem of the state and legal status of the Jewish people and the further development of its age-old culture. No one has been able to solve this problem for many centuries, and it can be solved only in our great socialist country.

The idea of ​​creating a Jewish Soviet Republic is extremely popular among the widest Jewish masses of the Soviet Union and the best representatives of fraternal peoples.

The Jewish mass of all countries of the world, no matter where they are, would help us in building the Jewish Soviet Republic. Based on the foregoing, we offer:

Create a Jewish Soviet socialist republic in the Crimea.
In advance, before the liberation of the Crimea, appoint a government commission with a view to developing this issue.

We hope that you will pay due attention to this issue, on the implementation of which depends the fate of an entire nation.

Chairman
Presidium of the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee of the USSR S. MIHOELS.
Responsible
Secretary Sh. EPSHTEIN.
Vice-chairman
Presidium I. FEFER.
15 February 1944, Moscow ”

Mikhail Poltoranin

- Mikhail Nikiforovich, historians reproach you for not seeing the documents to which you refer when speaking of the “Crimean California”. Do they really exist?


- Yes, there are documents in the archives. At one time, when I worked in the declassification commission, we decided that the documents from 1917 to 1945 would be disclosed. Except, of course, documents on our agency. We declassified the documents, but Alexander Yakovlev, Dmitry Volkogonov, came to Yeltsin, and the president, once again, classified them secretly, illegally. They did this in order to pull documents out of the archive, only when they need to, distort the history of our country and pour dirt on it.

Vice for Stalin

Note that the Crimea is still in the hands of the Nazis, and the guys who have been to the United States are ready to create their own country and, most likely, to appoint themselves as its leaders. Molotov sent the project back. And in June, 1944 was held a meeting of a millionaire, president of the Chamber of Commerce Eric Johnston and the US ambassador to the USSR Averell Harriman with Stalin and Molotov. The Americans made a generous offer - to invest in the economy of the Crimea those most notorious 10 billion dollars. Instead, create a republic in which Jews from all over the world could come, turning it into the world's largest resort with a yield of almost 2 billion dollars.

Goodwill envoys demanded the already mentioned Mikhoels for the post. Stalin believed that Lazar Moiseevich Kaganovich cope. Plus, the money should go not only to the Black Sea coast, but to other regions that have suffered from the occupation. Americans did not want to pay so.

They tried to pressure Stalin from the other side.

- In 1943, Stalin complained Josip Broz Tito what's in tehran Roosevelt told him (Stalin) that The United States can no longer continue to supply Lend-Lease, because the Jewish lobby, which is very strong in America, requires me to create a project for the creation of the Crimean California. We (the United States) also cannot open a second front unless a decision is made on Crimea, - Mikhail Poltoranin refers to the conversation.

The pressure on Stalin, as we see, was enormous. The terms of payment on the promissory notes on the Crimean land were approaching. “Crimea is almost ours. The Soviets have no money, ”they rubbed their hands in the USA.

In 1945, in the year when the repayment of Lenin credits began, the notorious George Marshall wrote a secret letter to the former ambassador and now to Minister Harriman.

"US Commerce Secretary A. Harriman

Dear Averell!

The President approves your plans. He added the following to them. Coexistence in the territory of Crimea of ​​the base of the Soviet Black Sea fleet and the Jewish Republic, open to the free entry of Jews from all over the world, seems inconsistent, fraught with unpredictable consequences. This from the very beginning raised his doubts about the reality of the “Crimean project”. Crimea should become a demilitarized zone. Let Stalin know that he must be prepared to relocate the fleet from Sevastopol to Odessa and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. Then we will believe that the Crimean Jewish Republic is a reality, not a propaganda myth. J. Marshall. "

Apparently, then Joseph Vissarionovich got one idea how to cheat those who consider themselves smarter than other Americans.

Versailles, Palestine, Khrushchev

- Stalin reminded the world Jewish lobby of the congress in Basel, which took place back in 1887 year. It was decided that homeless Jews should create their own state in Palestine. In the mid-forties of the last century, the British ruled there. And then Stalin in the 1946 year gave the command to supply weapons to the Jews who fought against the Arabs and the British. Tens of thousands of machine guns, machine guns, howitzers went to Palestine through Bulgaria. The opinion of Stalin - let Israel be in Palestine, and not in the Crimea, - says Poltoranin. As a result, 15 May 1948 was proclaimed the creation of Israel. The country was recognized by the United States and the Soviet Union, and on May 18, the USSR first established diplomatic relations with Israel on May 1948.
But, despite the fact that the Jews got Palestine, the idea of ​​"Crimean California" did not die.

- In June, 1948, Golda Meir was appointed Israeli ambassador to the USSR, and on September 3 arrived in Moscow. For two weeks, she organized two meetings in Moscow on 50 thousands of people each. These were people from Leningrad, Moscow, even from Siberia. At meetings, they demanded to fulfill a promise to America and to give Crimea. As a result, it was decided to evict the “fifth column” from the Crimea. In the summer of 1953, the Arctic Circle - 17 steamers went to New Earth. It was the beginning of the operation, codenamed “White partridge,” Poltoranin specifies.

Stalin also planned to evict Jews from the major cities of the country, in particular from Moscow. Minister Furtseva already made lists. But suddenly - the mysterious death of the leader.

In 1954, Khrushchev gives the Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR. RSFSR, read - The Soviet Union ceased to bear legal responsibility for bills signed by the Russian government in 20-s. No one returned the money to the Americans. And after 1991, the Joint has again actively developed its activities in Ukraine, including in the Crimea.

Arguments of historians

Director of the International Center for the History and Sociology of the Second World War and its Impacts at HSE, Doctor of Historical Sciences Oleg BUDNITSKY


- The creation of Jewish autonomy in the Crimea was the idea of ​​some of the leaders of the EAC. But there was no reason for this, and everything remained a wish. In 20-s, Jewish collective farms in the Crimea and other regions of Ukraine were actually created through Agro-Joint. But all this collapsed during the period of collectivization ...

Unfortunately, I am not familiar with the documents on the issuance of a JDC loan secured by the lands of Crimea. This umbrella charitable organization created to help the Jewish population during the First World War. She did not conduct business. Only helped the Jews to create state farms and rural communes, which was beneficial for the Soviet government. Therefore, to imagine a loan secured by the Crimean lands is very strange. I believe that this was not.

To say that the Americans cared for the creation of a Jewish state in Crimea is mythology. They even refused to bomb the access roads to Auschwitz in order to stop the delivery of Jews to the camp. According to the US, this is distracting Aviation from more important tasks. And imagine that the Americans are threatening Stalin with the termination of Lend-Lease due to autonomy in the Crimea - anti-Semitic and anti-American fabrications.

Gennady KOSTYRCHENKO, historian, author of the book "Stalin's Secret Policy":

- The question of creating an independent Jewish state has never stood. The letter of the JAC to Stalin dealt with the creation of the Jewish Soviet Socialist Republic. This, in my opinion, was a mistake. In his speech, Stalin emphasized: "Some Jewish comrades think that the Red Army is waging war for their future, and the Red Army is liberating the Soviet Union."

As for a certain loan on the security on the Crimean land, it was impossible. The land has already been nationalized. Agro-Joint actually financed and supported Jewish settlers. But almost half of the money was donated. And the second half of the Soviet Republic was to compensate. All debts in 30's were repaid. There were no other loans.

To say that Roosevelt threatened Stalin to stop supplying Lend-Lease and not to open a second front until the issue of “Crimean California” is resolved is fiction. Nowhere is this fixed, it is not in the documents of the Tehran and Yalta conferences.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 07: 14 New
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    I read the half of the article, then didn’t, in FIG, all the same. Well, the Jews wanted to get Crimea with a warm mild climate. And they got the cold and snowy Birobidzhan laughing
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 19 May 2013 07: 48 New
      13


      The answer should be something like this.
    2. esaul
      esaul 19 May 2013 07: 53 New
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      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I read half of the article, did not go any further

      Oh, in vain ...! The article is excellent and instructive. Here Stalin is shown as not only a persistent embodiment of his plans, but also as a very inventive and cunning politician. Good girl! Well, this must be invented, without violating any agreements and no one's rights, inventing to transplant an ever-rotting abscess to other (not Russian) soil!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 07 New
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        Quote: esaul
        The article is excellent and instructive. Here Stalin is shown as not only a persistent embodiment of his plans, but also as a very inventive and cunning politician. Good girl!

        I would recommend her to read to Putin.
        Quote: esaul
        Well, this must be invented, without violating any agreements and no one's rights, inventing to transplant an ever-rotting abscess to other (not Russian) soil!

        And overpower those whom he appoints to high posts! Start with Dvorkovich and the rest of the approximate shushary.
        1. esaul
          esaul 19 May 2013 08: 19 New
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I would recommend her to read to Putin.

          Heh! Have fun your morning begins. Who's stopping you - recommend it! wink
          In general, if you noticed, the article is not about Putin. wink
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 39 New
            +8
            Quote: esaul
            In general, if you noticed, the article is not about Putin.

            Yes, you constantly write about Putin, and here are a few words to your protégé. You yourself said, Stalin is smart, so advise Putin to take an example from him wink
            1. esaul
              esaul 19 May 2013 08: 43 New
              +5
              Alexander Romanov
              Yes, Alexander ... You are in your role, as always
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 57 New
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                Quote: esaul
                Yes, Alexander ... You are in your role, as always

                And what is wrong? Your words, your posts, your articles.
                And then, I try to keep up with you. One problem, we support different teams, you are for United Russia, and I just for Russia hi
                1. baltika-18
                  baltika-18 19 May 2013 09: 45 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And then, I try to keep up with you. One problem, we support different teams, you are for United Russia, and I just for Russia

                  Well said. good
                2. esaul
                  esaul 19 May 2013 12: 01 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  And what is wrong?

                  laughing Yes - so, so! I didn’t hide that my goal was to reduce the volume of the black stuff that you are dragging here with tubs. I don’t think that spending the night at the bullpen for a drink is a more interesting topic. To each his own.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 14: 47 New
                    +2
                    Quote: esaul
                    I didn’t hide that my goal was to reduce the volume of the black stuff that you are dragging here with tubs.

                    Valera, well, honestly honestly, I won’t be surprised if I find out that your surname is Friedman wassat
                    Communication call chernukha, communication people ??????? Well, I'm sorry, not everyone on the site thinks how you are and it's wonderful good
                    1. Kaa
                      Kaa 19 May 2013 15: 01 New
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                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      not everyone on the site thinks how you are and it's wonderful
                      Alexander, glad to welcome! So it seems that the site is for this, so that different opinions are laid out ... Otherwise, we will either slide down to the liberoids, or to the "hurray-patriots". Everyone has their own life experience, everyone has the right to vote, moreover. noticed a paradox: I often vote FOR the opinion of two irreconcilable opponents - each is right in his own way, there is no black and white world, gray has more than 200 shades. How is Bulgakov's,
                      ““ - I am to you, the spirit of evil and the lord of shadows, ”the newcomer answered, glancing unfriendly at Woland from under his brows.
                      “If you are to me, then why didn’t you say hello to me, a former tax collector?” Woland spoke sternly.
                      “Because I do not want you to live,” replied the impudent one who entered.
                      “But you will have to come to terms with this,” objected Woland, and a grin twisted his mouth, “before you could appear on the roof, as you immediately dismissed the absurdity, and I will tell you what it is about, in your intonations.” You pronounced your words as if you did not recognize shadows, as well as evil. Would you be so kind to think about the question: what would your good do if there were no evil, and what would the earth look like if shadows disappeared from it? After all, shadows come from objects and people. Here is the shadow of my sword. But there are shadows from trees and from living things. Do you want to rip off the whole globe, having taken all the trees and all living things away from it because of your imagination to enjoy the naked light? You're stupid.
                      “I will not argue with you, old sophist,” answered Levi Matvey. ”
                      I AM FOR A SOPHISTICS FROM ANY PART. hi
                      1. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 15: 24 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Kaa
                        Alexander, glad to welcome!

                        Mutually Kaa!
                        Quote: Kaa
                        So it seems that the site is for this, so that different opinions are laid out ... Otherwise, we will either slide down to liberoids, or to "hurray-patriots".

                        Not everyone understands this, but the good news is that many understand it. good
                        Quote: Kaa
                        no black and white world

                        No, no, but there must be respect for the opinions of the other person and not forcing your own!
                      2. Rustiger
                        Rustiger 19 May 2013 21: 46 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Communication call chernukha, communication people ???????

                        Quote: esaul
                        Heh! Have fun your morning begins. Who's stopping you - recommend it!

                        Respect Sasha and Valera! hi What was it?
                        Your guys "dispute" and cyber-srach cannot be called a constructive discussion, even more so. Others would have gotten into the JBAN only for 2 similar posts, and the modernists "throw the filler for the filler of manure over the wattle fence," etc. others. There is also a "personal" with EXCELLENT functionality (by the way, why are pictures and videos not posted in "letters"? what, I used four.)
                        Then each of you will erase the posts of members of the forum with the wording "flood", or without it. ... ...
                      3. politruk419
                        politruk419 20 May 2013 04: 17 New
                        +1
                        Yeah .... Four "iron chancellors", or rather "marshal" soldier
                    2. groom
                      groom 19 May 2013 18: 36 New
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                      And what, now we will justify the presence of Putin by the need to shade off the fact that in Russia there were rulers who understood the words honor and conscience (as the tsar could not rule after the shameful defeat of Russia). But Bulgakov will turn over in the grave after such a quotation. His only desire (as I understand it) was to say that no pursuit of imaginary values ​​in order to ensure any ideology (no matter how it seems necessary today) makes no sense (Alexander Isaevich’s beard sticks out because of all his body movements). You have to answer before your conscience. And, first of all, to answer all koi graffiti painters-grafomani from the immediate need to lick the ass to those in power with a view to a comfortable existence (it is quite possible unconsciously, this is instinct in herd animals) they sacrifice their conscience.
                    3. aksakal
                      aksakal 19 May 2013 18: 56 New
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                      Quote: groom
                      And what, now we will justify the presence of Putin by the need to shade off the fact that in Russia there were rulers who understood the words honor and conscience (as the tsar could not rule after the shameful defeat of Russia)

                      - The basis of well-being of any state is when everyone does his own thing, and does it WELL. When the horses stink in the mud and manure, and the one who by vocation should look after them, instead post some crap in the virtual space - then the trouble is simple. Groom, talk no higher than a horse’s croup. Your level is there.
                    4. groom
                      groom 19 May 2013 21: 07 New
                      0
                      All Asian marshals are aksakals.
                3. baltika-18
                  baltika-18 19 May 2013 19: 02 New
                  0
                  Quote: Kaa
                  “I will not argue with you, old sophist,” answered Levi Matvey. ”
                  I AM FOR A SOPHISTICS FROM ANY PART.

                  Original, wise Kaa.
              2. esaul
                esaul 19 May 2013 16: 48 New
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I won’t be surprised if I find out that your surname Friedman

                I will disappoint you in your expectations - you will be surprised. laughing
                And yet - we have a different understanding of the concept - HONOR.
                1. Kaa
                  Kaa 19 May 2013 17: 23 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  there must be respect for the opinions of the other person and not the imposition of one’s own

                  Quote: esaul
                  And yet - we have a different understanding of the concept - "HONOR".

                  Guys! Not in the trivial or rough sense of the word - YOU WILL BOTH - PLUS. Let's go, if we disagree somewhere in "shades of gray", we will write in a personal, otherwise, after all, looking at VIRTUAL stars, one of the newcomers will have the impression that we have a different idea about the MAIN - about the future of RUSSIA and all countries originally from the USSR (RI). And we are all successful people, with smaller, but REAL stars in the past, with plans for the future, and supporting the present.
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 17: 44 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Kaa
                  otherwise, looking at the VIRTUAL stars, one of the newcomers will have the impression that we have a different view of the MAIN - about the future of RUSSIA

                  Kaa, beginners see that there are different points of view on the site, as you wrote above. Not one big cheer. Previously, people with a different look and swoop put on their skulls at sait. An example of this is the Joker, only for having a different opinion got three skulls. It should not be like that
                3. Kaa
                  Kaa 19 May 2013 18: 26 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  people came to sait with a different look and put on their skulls in a swoop. An example of this is the Joker, only for having a different opinion got three skulls.

                  Well, I myself did not receive skulls, but at first I was a "seropathic". This is not the point. Everyone sees the future of both Russia and neighboring countries differently, some from the USSR, some from RI. Someone - Russian, someone Ukrainian, Jew, Azeri, Armenian, Belorussian, Kazakh ... I don't want to offend anyone, but in the USSR, no matter what they invented, EVERYONE was NOT THEORETICAL, BUT PRACTICALLY EQUAL. Now we scattered to the "national huts", and only at VO we meet, and, according to my observations, regardless of the prospects for the future, the majority, with the exception of tr .... I do not even want to write in full, there is concern precisely with the development of RUSSIA as a structure-forming unit. There will be a future for her (and I do not doubt it) -there will be a future for ALL the peoples of the country and the surrounding area. Who wants to argue with me - quote the words of another, equally famous poet, said about one of the parts of the Republic of Ingushetia, and, then, the USSR:
                  "And God's grace came down
                  To Georgia! She bloomed
                  Since then, in the shadow of their gardens,
                  Without fear of enemies
                  Beyond friendly bayonets.
                  M.Yu.Lermontov "
                  I SEEMS TO FULFILL ITS PERFORMANCE, WHEN AND RUSSIAN CITIZENS AND FORMER ITS REPUBLICAS REALLY THINK ABOUT THESE WORDS.
                4. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 18: 38 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Kaa
                  I SEEMS TO FULFILL ITS PERFORMANCE, WHEN AND RUSSIAN CITIZENS AND FORMER ITS REPUBLICAS REALLY THINK ABOUT THESE WORDS.

                  To do this, you need to hear each other and at least! But this is not and will not be in the near future, simply because .....
                  Quote: Kaa
                  Everyone sees the future of Russia differently.

                  hi
                5. Gari
                  Gari 19 May 2013 20: 33 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Kaa
                  I SEEMS TO FULFILL ITS PERFORMANCE, WHEN AND RUSSIAN CITIZENS AND FORMER ITS REPUBLICAS REALLY THINK ABOUT THESE WORDS.


                  Good evening, dear, but I think they’re already thinking - I remember at dawn
                  of this Gorbachev’s adventure called perestroika - they joked that
                  perestroika now
                  then there will be a shoot-out,
                  and then roll call

                  It seems to have given the stage already passed.
            2. groom
              groom 19 May 2013 18: 47 New
              -4
              If it's not a secret - how can you hope for any positive development of the country if the president who came for the third term yells - "We have won", showing by this that one part of society can mock another part of it. And how is it possible to support the words of a semi ... urk in "iron panties" calling to beat wall to wall (this was done in ancient Novgorod, for the sake of which to descend into the Middle Ages).
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            5. Rustiger
              Rustiger 20 May 2013 00: 46 New
              +2
              Quote: aksakal
              Who are you? Close your mouth and hand it back, you are not the first one, you weren’t harassing or choking at dinner. And scatter out of here, the swamp hamster

              Will you let me take the floor? Thus, to save you from the "need" to communicate with .....
              So: This is how your "hitting" Google interprets -
              "What are you, defective! With any such justification do you harness for the Kholman? Where was your whisper about reputable among your reputable? . . .
              / further does not give in, moderation, only to removal /
              Quote: aksakal
              Who are you? Close your mouth and hand it back, you are not the first one, you weren’t harassing or choking at dinner. And scatter out of here, the swamp hamster

              And here is such a "field for philologists." What, oh-oh-oh-oh. ... ... hi laughing
        2. Rustiger
          Rustiger 19 May 2013 22: 45 New
          +3
          Quote: Kaa
          Guys! Not in the banal or approximate sense of the word - YOU WILL BOTH - PLUS. Let's, if we disagree somewhere in the "shades of gray",

          Sorry, but full of bileberd "guys-podlatnennaya". "Guys" are not only not podlatnenny, but not even in the "caste". ... ...
          Quote: Kaa
          there is no black and white world, gray has more than 200 shades.

          More precisely 256, if only with 24-bit, and if by modern standards 48 bits, then. . .
          Quote: Kaa
          otherwise, looking at the VIRTUAL stars, some of the newcomers will have the impression that we have a different idea of ​​the MAIN - about the future of RUSSIA and all countries from the USSR (RI). And we are all accomplished people, with smaller, but REAL stars in the past, with plans for the future, and rooting for the present

          Now comments. . . good hi
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 17: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: esaul
        I will disappoint you in your expectations - you will be surprised

        Yes, it can’t be. Is it not Chubys or Chubais laughing
        Quote: esaul
        And yet - we have a different understanding of the concept - "HONOR".

        I have never quoted the word HONOR in my life! NEVER!!!
      3. fortunophile
        fortunophile 19 May 2013 17: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I have never quoted the word HONOR in my life! NEVER!!!

        This is 5 with "+" and here do not add, do not subtract hi Something "I am tormented by vague doubts", maybe the esaul's account was "hacked", or he is a little (a lot) b drinks ? Something he has today solid "bloopers", even tried to use a hair dryer wassat
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 19 May 2013 17: 48 New
        +2
        Freudian slip
      5. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 18: 15 New
        +5
        Quote: Thunderbolt
        Freudian slip

        Alexey, I read it here and WONDERED wassat

        Freud had a theory about the role of the subconscious in human behavior and that the main driving stimulus of human behavior is the sexual instinct, which is usually suppressed by society (civilization). Therefore, "Freudian slip" means that a person accidentally let slip about his carefully hidden personal interest in someone or about his secret desires.


        NO, NO, DO NOT WANT, DO NOT NEED THE SHOULDER wassat wassat wassat
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    3. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 19 May 2013 19: 29 New
      +5
      Sasha, as they say, relax and have fun laughing
  2. esaul
    esaul 19 May 2013 17: 55 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I have never quoted the word HONOR in my life! NEVER!!!

    We have different concepts about the role of quotation marks.
    In general, Sasha, listen to the spacecraft and finish.
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  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 18: 08 New
    0
    Quote: esaul
    I've finished.

    I have the second hour of the night, so I’ll finish it soon anyway. I better read that old Freid spoke there, and Stormbreaker wrote there, but I don’t know. Thunderbolt is not convenient to ask to enlighten.
  5. esaul
    esaul 19 May 2013 18: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I have never quoted the word HONOR in my life! NEVER!!!

    I convinced you. I removed the quotation marks.
  • Alexander Petrovich
    Alexander Petrovich 19 May 2013 14: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    , and I'm just for Russia

    I hope not for the liberal Yeltsin))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 14: 48 New
      +9
      Quote: Alexander Petrovich
      I hope not for the liberal Yeltsin))

      Yes, in the coffin I saw politicians and Yeltsin and the rest.
      1. Alexander Petrovich
        Alexander Petrovich 20 May 2013 14: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, in the coffin I saw politicians and Yeltsin and the rest.

        Yeltsin is already there) And I'd rather see them on the gallows)
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  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 19 May 2013 09: 54 New
    +9
    Quote: esaul
    In general, if you noticed, the article is not about Putin

    The article, of course, is not about Putin. The article is about politics and about Jews.
    Tell Valery for what merits Putin Berl Lazar gives orders, and even Russian citizenship by special decree to his wife?
    And why is Vladimir Vladimirovich so fond of the Jewish Museum of Tolerance?
    And why is the state funded by the Maimonides Jewish Academy?
    1. esaul
      esaul 19 May 2013 11: 47 New
      +6
      Quote: baltika-18
      The article, of course, is not about Putin. The article is about politics and about Jews.


      You love to stop by, start a rumor, sow doubts and see how things go on. Funny and ... unpleasant. That is to say the least. If you’re asking a question about Ben Lazar, then don’t bother to find out who and when he was awarded the order. And then, somehow puppy-squeaked in the bushes.
      Apparently I will tell you the news: The presentation of the order took place in January this year. People who have made a significant contribution to public life have been awarded. In addition to Berl Lazar, the Order "Person of the Year" was awarded to cultural workers and people whose merits were recognized and appreciated regardless of nationality. So at this ceremony, this award was awarded not only to figures of Jewish nationality, but also to other nationalities. This was how ZHORES ALFEROV was awarded, whose services to Russia are difficult to overestimate, and Daria Andreevna Ryzhova, who saved several dozen Jewish women with small children during the war. I repeat, the award is awarded not only to people of Jewish nationality. Well, the fact that your like-minded people prefer to provocatively post a snapshot of the moment when Putin was awarded Lazar is a favorite trick of the trolls you mention.
      I will not answer your other questions - I feel sorry for the time. Yes - and why? All the same, you will not read this, like Romanov, and the rest, thinking, if they want, will find answers for themselves. hi
      About the love of the special GDP for the Jewish Museum, do you have any kind of confirmation, statistics on Putin's visits to this and other museums? So you share the link and you will be a plus. And then again, somehow puppy. yes
      PS I’ll add, more precisely, I’ll ask - what offends you - that this order was not handed to you, but to a Jew? So I think he in any way did more than yours because is the Chief Rabbi of Russia. So - do not be offended ... wink
      1. bilgesez
        bilgesez 19 May 2013 13: 51 New
        10
        And with what ... he is called the main rabbi of Russia. By all means, he can only be called the chief rabbi of the Jews of Russia, and this imposture must be stopped.
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 19 May 2013 14: 25 New
        +9
        Quote: esaul
        So I think he in any way did more than yours because is the Chief Rabbi of Russia. So - do not be offended ...

        Born in Italy, a US citizen, a person with dual citizenship, who lived in the United States until 1991, and then suddenly inflamed with love for Russia.
        Aren't you ashamed, Valera?
        If not, please accept my deepest regret.
        1. esaul
          esaul 19 May 2013 16: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: baltika-18
          Born in Italy, a US citizen, a person with dual citizenship, who lived in the USA before 1991, and then suddenly inflamed with love for Russia. Aren't you ashamed, Valera?

          Guys!!! fool I answered your question ?! Answered!!! What the hell are you, like a drunken burger ass that sprinkles like a spray gun, giving out new questions ?! Did I make friends to persuade you or re-educate you? Or am I TSB for you? Yes, live your thoughts and your idea of ​​everything - it is violet to me. hi
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 19 May 2013 19: 08 New
            +3
            Quote: esaul
            I answered your question ?! Replied!!! What the hell are you, like a drunken burger ass that sprays like a spray gun, giving out new questions ?! Did I make friends to persuade you or re-educate you?

            Something you are very annoyed.
            Quote: esaul
            Yes, live your thoughts and your idea of ​​everything - it is violet to me.

            So it’s not entirely violet if you are so annoyed.
      3. baltika-18
        baltika-18 19 May 2013 14: 31 New
        +5
        2004 personally awarded the Order of Friendship.
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 19 May 2013 14: 45 New
          12
          Quote: baltika-18
          baltika-18
          So what? A bad world is better than a good quarrel. In 67, thank God, there was enough self-control not to hit Tel Aviv, although the nuclear submarine was cruising ... in the launch area. We know who WE are. They know who they are and who is behind them. I am for the status quo, here in Syria, it seems to me, they have already realized that they are in vain climb, at least if you rummage through their forums, then the same as with us , there are a lot of sensible thoughts, and with rare exceptions our "exes" come running to us, who have nothing else in their lives to boast that they have emigrated to the "Promised Land", so they blacken the former and praise the new Motherland. Let them ... And the Order of Friendship - let’s be friends ... within our competence wink
      4. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 14: 51 New
        +8
        Quote: esaul
        In addition to Berl Lazar, the Order "Person of the Year" was awarded to cultural workers and people whose merits were recognized and appreciated regardless of nationality.

        And this, as I understand it, about Mishka Humpbacked, that's who the society definitely appreciated for the greatness of "merits", only instead of a bullet a medal was given belay wrong see lists wink
        1. esaul
          esaul 19 May 2013 17: 06 New
          0
          Quote: esaul
          In addition to Berl Lazar, the Order "Person of the Year" was awarded to cultural workers and people whose merits were recognized and appreciated regardless of nationality.

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And this, as I understand it, about Mishka Humpbacked, that's who the society definitely appreciated for the greatness of "merits", only instead of a bullet a medal was given

          laughing Oh yeah! The logic is Iron ... In the morning, taking on the chest is harmful, Alexander. The Ministry of Health warned ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 17: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: esaul
            .In the morning, taking on the chest is harmful,

            Valera juice in the morning, pomegranate juice -Azerbaijan-I recommend, very useful.
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    2. nickname 1 and 2
      nickname 1 and 2 19 May 2013 12: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: baltika-18
      Putin Berl Lazar gives orders, and even Russian citizenship by special decree to his wife?
      And why is Vladimir Vladimirovich so fond of the Jewish Museum of Tolerance?
      And why is the state funded by the Maimonides Jewish Academy?


      Well Baltic! Well, you give! This is where you live under what carpets? Otkeda firewood?

      After 50 years, it will turn out that the living now FIND IT IS NOT SMALLER!
      How is it that they write about Luzhkov’s great affairs?

      And Yeltsin allegedly classified archival documents! Did he read them? When? In the bathhouse?
      How much did you manage?
    3. igor67
      igor67 19 May 2013 19: 05 New
      -1
      It’s a pity that there are no gypsies on the site, why not a word is said about them, Jews, Jews, here the gypsies also fell into the war under the distribution of the Nazis, they also want their own state, I remember their king was going to buy an island in an interview, and the benefit from them is also dubious where some left articles are found,
      1. Papakiko
        Papakiko 19 May 2013 22: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: igor67
        they also want their state

        The Indian subcontinent is their home, let them bring down there, the orderlies of the society "eprst ....".
        1. igor67
          igor67 19 May 2013 22: 35 New
          -2
          Quote: Papakiko
          Quote: igor67
          they also want their state

          The Indian subcontinent is their home, let them bring down there, the orderlies of the society "eprst ....".

          Do not worry in Ekiterinburg the same problems with the "orderlies of society" as elsewhere? Drugs, theft,
  • Gari
    Gari 19 May 2013 11: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: esaul
    think of transplanting an ever-rotting abscess to other (not Russian) soil!

    Where has it decayed since then, so that it will soon burst, the Middle East
    1. bilgesez
      bilgesez 19 May 2013 13: 53 New
      +4
      Only they are already here in Russia have prepared a bridgehead.
  • Gari
    Gari 19 May 2013 11: 33 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I read the half of the article, then didn’t, in FIG, all the same. Well, the Jews wanted to get Crimea with a warm mild climate. And they got the cold and snowy Birobidzhan

    Comrade Stalin decided the question, according to Stalin
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 19 May 2013 11: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I read the half of the article, then didn’t, in FIG, all the same. Well, the Jews wanted to get Crimea with a warm mild climate. And they got the cold and snowy Birobidzhan laughing

    Do you think Jews live in Birobidzhan? :) there from Jewry, in a word, everyone knows the outcome, they got a warm, cozy Israel in the Middle East.)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 15: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: OTAKE
      Do you think Jews live in Birobidzhan? :)

      Yes, I don’t think, I’ve been there many times and I can tell you that they are there and there are many of them.
  • Tourist Breakfast
    Tourist Breakfast 19 May 2013 12: 28 New
    -7
    I read the half of the article, then didn’t, in FIG, all the same.


    But in vain. At the end are the arguments of historians, according to which what is stated in the article, to put it mildly, does not correspond to reality.
  • Nicholas C.
    Nicholas C. 19 May 2013 12: 40 New
    +7
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well, the Jews wanted to get Crimea with a warm mild climate. And they got the cold and snowy Birobidzhan

    "Crimea with a warm mild climate"Comrades Ukrainians received. It turns out where the Ukrainian went, the Jew has nothing to do. wassat
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 19 May 2013 13: 17 New
      +5
      Quote: Nikolai S.
      Comrades Ukrainians received "Crimea with a warm mild climate"

      There was a reason. Here is what Sudoplatov writes:
      “It was said that Mikhoels could be offered the post of chairman of the Supreme Council in the Jewish Republic. In addition to Molotov, Lozovsky, and several senior officials of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mikhoels was the only person who knew about the existence of a Stalinist plan to create a Jewish state in Crimea.
      “Until June 1945, this project seemed to remain in force and should have already been implemented. During the subtreat of the Yalta Conference, Harriman asked me and assistant Molotov Novikov how things are going with the formation of the Jewish Republic in connection with future American loans for this project.
      At the suggestion of Molotov, the leadership of the JAC prepared a letter addressed to Stalin with a proposal to create a Jewish republic in Crimea.
      The letter said that the creation of the Jewish Soviet Republic in accordance with Bolshevik principles and in the spirit of Leninist-Stalinist national policy will once and for all solve the problem of the legitimate statehood of the Jewish people and the further development of its centuries-old culture. At the last meeting of the Plenum of the CPSU Central Committee during Stalin’s life, elected in October 1952 by the XNUMXth CPSU Congress, Stalin, as you know, in his "testament" speech, particularly sharply criticized Molotov and Mikoyan and did not include them in the narrower Bureau of the Presidium, which carried out, as before the Politburo, the operational management of the country. Almost Molotov and Mikoyan were removed from the leadership of party and state affairs. The meetings of this plenum were not shorthand, and the character of criticism by Stalin of Molotov and Mikoyan was subsequently restored from the recollections of its individual participants. Leonid Efremov, first elected to the Central Committee of the CPSU as secretary of the Kursk Oblast Regional Committee, in his memoirs drew attention to the “Jewish” question in Stalin’s speech:
      “Molotov is a dedicated man,” said Stalin. “Call me, and I have no doubt that he will not hesitate to give his life for the party.” But you can’t get past his unworthy actions ... What is Molotov’s proposal to hand over Crimea to Jews? This is a gross political mistake of Comrade Molotov ... "
      The wife of Vyacheslav Molotov, Polina Zhemchuzhina, worked in the Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee for 1942. After the dissolution of the EAK, the Pearl was accused of being “in a criminal relationship with Jewish nationalists for several years”. She was arrested and sent to Kazakhstan. Molotov was removed from office. Contrary to the expectations of the JAC, the empty Crimean villages began to quickly and unauthorized Ukrainian, Russian and Belarusian peasants.
      The population began to dominate the Russians and Ukrainians. . In June 1945, the Crimean ARSR was transformed into a region as part of the RSFSR. After Stalin's death, the problem of repaying loans did not disappear anywhere — the deadline of -1954 came — the return of money to investors.
      And here a non-trivial, but unexplained to the peoples of the USSR, move - Khrushchev, to retouch the great concession made by Stalin in favor of the Jewish people and American capital, gave Crimea to Ukraine. Formally, a situation arose in which the contract and financial documents were signed on behalf of the RSFSR, and Crimea was transferred to another member of the United Nations - the Ukrainian SSR, to which it was no longer possible to present claims legally.
      1. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 19 May 2013 14: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: Kaa
        There was a reason. Here is what Sudoplatov writes:

        We read different Sudoplatov. I am "Intelligence and the Kremlin", Moscow, 1996. And you, apparently, something published in Ukraine. Sudoplatov has a whole chapter "California in the Crimea", where the situation is set out on 30 pages from the lips of a direct participant in the events, albeit an executor. I also found the first phrases of your quotation in this chapter in different places, in a different sequence, in a different context I understand. But from the place where you started to select the text, I did not find it. Where did you find what you need for the second half and conclusions?
  • Apologet insane
    Apologet insane 19 May 2013 20: 25 New
    -2
    So they cleaned up this Birobidzhan and quenched it so far that the best meat and dairy products are delivered to Khabarovsk from Birobidzhan, since the production still belongs to the Jews. A small Jewish district in Birobidzhan, rebuilt by Jews who have not yet left for Israel, is strikingly different from the rest of the city, where you can see the native municipal economy. Yes, and Israel is also not sugar, but nevertheless they made candy from the desert.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 May 2013 07: 29 New
    +6
    It is no coincidence that such articles in the media appear to prepare a springboard for the new state of Israel ..))) in the Middle East, they will fight each other with nuclear strikes and chemistry ... the territory is contaminated and where will everyone run on "legal" grounds ???? wassat
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 07: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Not without reason such articles in the media appear to prepare a bridgehead for the new state of Israel.

      Well, maybe on Novaya Zemlya laughing
    2. krasin
      krasin 19 May 2013 07: 37 New
      +3
      Our Jews will return Birobidzhan. And to be honest, there are no Jews in Birobidzhan, and if there is not enough. Almost all of them live in Odessa-mom! laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 07: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: krasin
        And to be honest, there are no Jews in Birobidzhan, and if there is, then it is not enough.

        Have you been in Birobidzhan for a long time?
        1. krasin
          krasin 19 May 2013 08: 15 New
          +4
          I was there in the 70s, I have not seen a single Jew.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: krasin
            I was there in the 70s, I have not seen a single Jew.

            They looked poorly, but they are there, and not a little.
            1. krasin
              krasin 19 May 2013 18: 04 New
              +1
              As they say, you saw a dark cat in a dark room, no, but she is there! ?? Somewhere there is, somewhere not, there is little to eat.
            2. YuDDP
              YuDDP 19 May 2013 22: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and they are there

              of course I have
              Here is the information from your favorite Wikipedia:
              Jews make up 1,0% or 1628 people of the region’s population [4].
              Currently Jewish Presence in EAO extremely little and is limited to the city of Birobidzhan and the nearby village of Valdheim [10]
      2. Ivan Kalinovich
        Ivan Kalinovich 20 May 2013 02: 12 New
        0
        krasin:
        .. almost all of them live in Odessa-mom!
        Krasin, you’ve not only been in Birobidzhan,
        but you don’t know anything about Odessa-mom ...
        the Jews are being chased to get an autograph from them,
        as here it is very rare!
    3. avt
      avt 19 May 2013 09: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Not without reason such articles in the media appear to prepare a bridgehead for the new state of Israel

      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, maybe on Novaya Zemlya

      Alexander, just remember the very recent events of the time of the Egyptian revolution, when Barack Huseynovich proposed that Israel return 68 years of release to the borders, and offered it to the Israelis themselves to do so. It will be necessary - American Jews will merge Israel, but where to settle, this is a different question, they will want to and they will settle the Crimea. The USSR is not there, nor is the leader of the scale of Stalin.
      1. Gari
        Gari 19 May 2013 11: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: avt
        when Barak Huseynovich proposed that Israel return 68 years of release to the borders, and proposed that the Israelis do this


        Barack Obama's keynote address on the Middle East made a splash in the United States, especially in conservative circles, who have embarrassed a number of presidential statements about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. They were especially outraged by Obama’s words that Israel would have to return in general terms to the 1967 borders.
        Republican presidential candidates in the race blamed Obama for betraying the interests of a faithful American ally, they said.

        Before Obama finished his 45-minute speech at the State Department, which was broadcast not only in original English, but also in Arabic and Farsi, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney said, using a peculiar American expression, that "the President of the United States pushed Israel under a bus ".

        "President Obama has betrayed Israel," said former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a longtime supporter of the Jewish state who ran for president in 2008.

        Obama's stance means "the beginning of the end of the Jewish state," remarked Black Republican Congressman Allen West.

        On Thursday, even before the president’s statement on the Middle East, the Wall Street Journal published a lengthy article that showed that a number of American Jews who had been actively raising money for Senator Obama’s election campaign in 2008 now warned the White House that his attitude towards Israel might cost him financial support.
        1. Gari
          Gari 19 May 2013 11: 47 New
          +7
          Good day to all colleagues

          American Jews make up only 2% of the electorate, but have great financial resources and generously donate money to candidates for elected office, mainly Democrats.

          A well-known Israeli politician, founder of the left-wing radical Israeli movement "Gush Shalom" Uri Avnery wrote about the influence of the Jewish lobby in the United States:
          - "Every senator and every congressman knows that criticizing Israel is political suicide. Two of them, one senator and one congressman (Congressman Paul Findlay in 1982 and Senator Charles Presy in 1984 - N.Ch.), tried to do it - and were subjected to political execution. The Jewish lobby was completely mobilized and expelled from their positions. Everything was done openly so that this case served as an example for others.
          If the Israeli government wants (in the United States) to pass a law tomorrow that repeals the 10 Commandments, 95 senators (at least) will sign a bill introducing it. The US-Israel relationship is truly unique. It is as if King Herod would give orders to Augustus Caesar and appoint members of the Roman Senate. "
          1. avt
            avt 19 May 2013 12: 22 New
            +2
            Quote: Gari
            American Jews make up only 2% of the electorate, but have great financial resources and generously donate money to candidates for elected office, mainly Democrats.

            And Barak Husseinovich's statement is not an impromptu, it is generally accepted that Israel is shaping the policy of amers in the Middle East, but this is not so, rather an American Jewish lobby, whose interests are higher than preserving Israel and do not always coincide, as evidenced by the position of amers towards Israel since its creation .Paradoxically, but it is a fact - the position of Russia and China on Syria has postponed both the Arab "spring" and the decision of the amers on Israel.
            1. sleepy
              sleepy 20 May 2013 04: 11 New
              +1
              Here is Obama’s speech in Israel, judging by the comments.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 19 May 2013 07: 45 New
    10
    Alexander, hello. It is difficult to judge the affairs of bygone days. One pleases(if true!) -kcalovo Jews on a loan!

    The Jew insured the cottage, received the policy, looks incredulously at the agent:
    - And what, you want to say that I will get so much money if my cottage burns out?
    “Yes, but only if you don’t set it on fire yourself.”
    “I did know that there was some catch!”
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 10 New
      +9
      Quote: fenix57
      It is difficult to judge the affairs of bygone days. One thing pleases (if true!) - Kidalovo Jews on a loan!

      Hello to you, Valera! It is a pity that today there are no those in Russia who would have thrown them. While they are throwing all of Russia since the start of privatization. And the end of the land is not yet visible request
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 19 May 2013 12: 26 New
      +3
      Quote: fenix57
      One thing pleases (if true!) - Kidalovo Jews on a loan!
      After Stalin's death, the problem of repaying loans did not disappear anywhere — the deadline of -1954 came — the return of money to investors.
      And here, perhaps, not without the participation of other party leaders, a non-trivial, but unexplained to the peoples of the USSR, move - Khrushchev, to retouch the curtsy made by Stalin in favor of the Jewish people and American capital, was given to Crimea. Formally, a situation arose in which the contract and financial documents were signed on behalf of the RSFSR, and Crimea was transferred to another UN member - the Ukrainian SSR. As they say, "bribes are smooth." Outstanding Ukrainian thinker of the twentieth century I. Lysyak-Rudnitsky published the article “New Pereyaslav” in 1956 in the journal Culture, published in Polish in Paris. The article was devoted to the analysis of the Kremlin’s course towards Ukraine after the death of Stalin. Lysyak-Rudnitsky named three circumstances that gave the right to assert a radical change in course. First, leadership positions in the republic were mainly in the hands of local people, and the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine was headed by a Ukrainian - V. Kirichenko. Secondly, the formation of economic councils has significantly expanded the competence of local administrative apparatuses, especially in the economic and cultural spheres. Thirdly, in connection with the celebration of the 300th anniversary of the Pereyaslavl Rada, the Crimean region was annexed to the Ukrainian SSR. It is noteworthy that many party members of the Crimean regional committee of the CPSU then turned to N.S. Khrushchev and to the Chairman of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR N.M. Shvernik with a protest against the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine.
      Khrushchev reacted immediately: the leadership of the Crimean regional committee was accused of "anti-party" line and "great-power chauvinism"!
      By the middle of 1954, the leadership of the "rebellious" regional committee was dismissed from party work almost in full force, and the most implacable of its workers were arrested. True, six months later, the disgraced Crimean communists received secondary positions in remote district committees (but not in regional committees) of the Urals, Siberia, and the Volga-Vyatka region. And their rehabilitation, that is, the removal of charges of "anti-partyism" and "chauvinism", took place after a closed decision of the CPSU Central Committee only in 1984, when K.U. Chernenko.
  • kind
    kind 19 May 2013 07: 52 New
    +4
    I served in Birobidzhan, a nice cozy city!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: Good
      I served in Birobidzhan, a nice cozy city!

      And what's so good about him? I have often been there before, except for high-quality datura grass there is nothing laughing
      1. esaul
        esaul 19 May 2013 17: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I have often been there before, except for high-quality datura grass there is nothing

        So this is where the Romanov "LOGIC" comes from! Solid ... wink
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 19 May 2013 17: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: esaul
          So this is where the Romanov "LOGIC" comes from! Solid.

          "It all looks like some kind of wiring.
          Drugs are prohibited, but only vodka is allowed "(C)
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 17: 48 New
          -4
          Quote: esaul

          So this is where the Romanov "LOGIC" comes from! Solid.

          And the word HONOR and the word LOGIC are all in quotation marks wassat
  • Humpty
    Humpty 19 May 2013 07: 52 New
    +6
    That Zionists do not give, all is not enough. The thing is understandable, the bottomless belly will never be full.
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 19 May 2013 17: 03 New
      +6
      Quote: Humpty
      Zionists that do not give, all is not enough

      So I thought the same way. First, the Crimea with the Black Sea coast, and then it will come to the "reunification" of the Zhytomyr region and other regions of Ukraine inhabited by Jews, where Belarus is a stone's throw away. They will demand the return of the "primordially" Jewish lands. The example is borne out by Israel's actions today. No thanks, I don't want to be Israel's neighbor. I want a quiet and peaceful life and death. Without possible Israeli special forces in Russia.
  • shurup
    shurup 19 May 2013 08: 22 New
    +2
    Jews, Crimea, Birobidzhan, and even completely New Earth prefer the territory of the United States, where there are no national entities at all, with the exception of reservations for the indigenous population.
    When Russia settles in this way, then the Jew will think where he is better off living. Or maybe by then it will be Mars.
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 19 May 2013 08: 25 New
    +8
    Here really. If yes. For any Jews in the Crimea are better than the Tatars. I have how many Jews I knew, so they are a thousand times better than many, I won’t specify by nationality, because it’s stupid. Moreover, I am sure that in this case Crimea would definitely remain a part of Russia. And not like now.
  • shpuntik
    shpuntik 19 May 2013 08: 26 New
    +6
    I have met Jews everywhere in my life. Nobody arranged pogroms for them, although nobody really liked them. Joseph Katz was in our company, for three years they wanted to fill his face, and different people, fellow students. But as he had an "outstanding" nose, he remained, no one broke him. I don't know who kept it ...
    Only recently, delving into this topic, I learned that Katz, Kogan and similar surnames come from the kind of high priests, coens, and are highly respected among the Jews.
    And, so there are a lot of them everywhere: where it is "warm and damp", there are few, if any, fools among them :-)
    And they do not want to leave Birobidzhan, "citizens of the world" - neither give, nor take, do not undermine ...
  • pinecone
    pinecone 19 May 2013 08: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Well, the Jews wanted to get Crimea with a warm mild climate. And they got the cold and snowy Birobidzhan laughing


    It would be more correct to say that they received all of Russia.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 08: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: pinecone

      It would be more correct to say that they received all of Russia.

      But you are already talking about our present.
      1. Canep
        Canep 19 May 2013 08: 51 New
        +5
        The whole world they received:
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 19 May 2013 09: 21 New
          12
          Quote: Canep
          The whole world they received:

          Hahaha, years have passed and nothing has changed laughing That father, that son, the environment is the same wassat
          1. Canep
            Canep 19 May 2013 09: 44 New
            +5
            In the photo of the youngest one Jew became more. laughing
          2. MG42
            MG42 19 May 2013 11: 20 New
            +9
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , the environment is the same
            1. Kaa
              Kaa 19 May 2013 12: 32 New
              +8
              Quote: MG42
              MG42
              Do you think that a great resettlement from Palestine to Crimea is planned, and the menorah is an advance? Then oh. Now it is clear why the BDK visited Haifa and why they plan to make the Mistral the flagship of the Mediterranean squadron wink
              1. MG42
                MG42 19 May 2013 20: 33 New
                +3
                Quote: Kaa
                Do you think that a great migration from Palestine to Crimea is planned, and menorah is an advance? Then oh. Now it’s clear why the BDK visited Haifa

                Yes, they are already full in Odessa, in Crimea it will be very difficult for them to take a place under the sun now.
            2. tttttt
              tttttt 19 May 2013 14: 44 New
              +5
              Yanukovych shabes-goy? Will they light candles on Saturday?
              1. MG42
                MG42 19 May 2013 20: 43 New
                +2
                Ukrainian sites began to write that "Yanukovych is a Jew." lol
                http://evreiskiy.kiev.ua/novaja-neevrejjskaja-novost-janukovich-12084.html
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 19 May 2013 08: 55 New
    +2
    The decision made by Stalin was correct, timely. Classically ruined the situation.
    And all remained in their own interests.
  • magadanets
    magadanets 19 May 2013 09: 24 New
    13
    There is such a bike:
    Historical fact: in Yalta, in 1945, Stalin, Churchill and Roosevelt met. At this meeting, the question of redistributing European borders after the upcoming end of the war was decided.

    And Churchill and Roosevelt proposed to Stalin: “Joseph Vissarionovich! Give us the Crimea, and for this we will give you a piece of Germany of the same size. ”
    Stalin thought a little and with his characteristic accent said: “If you guess my riddle, I will give you Krim.”

    And he shows Churchill and Roosevelt three fingers of his left hand: thumb, middle and forefinger. “Which of these three fingers is gray?” Stalin asked.
    Churchill was surprised at the simplicity of the riddle and grabbed the index finger "Here is the middle one!"
    “Neeet ..., ne guessed,” answered Stalin.
    Roosevelt thought that Stalin was cunning, and all five fingers of his hand should be chosen. Therefore, he pointed to the middle finger.
    “Neeet ... and you ne guessed,” answered Stalin. Then he folded the cookie from the three fingers of his left hand and showed it to Churchill and Roosevelt: “Here it is! Here is our Cream! ”
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    1. Ataman
      Ataman 19 May 2013 09: 49 New
      +4
      Why do you hate penguins so much?
    2. omsbon
      omsbon 19 May 2013 10: 26 New
      +4
      Quote: bubla5
      Jews must live in Antarctica with penguins

      That is, you do not mind the penguins? What have they done? hi
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      2. Rustiger
        Rustiger 20 May 2013 16: 48 New
        0
        Quote: omsbon
        Quote: bubla5 Jews should live in Antarctica with penguins That is penguins you do not mind? What have they done?

        So they are already there. And they are actively assimilating with local aborigines. laughing
  • fenix57
    fenix57 19 May 2013 10: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Not without reason such articles in the media appear to prepare a bridgehead for the new state of Israel.
    Well, maybe on Novaya Zemlya


    Sarah comes home, looks, and Izya carefully peels the wallpaper from the walls. Sarah happily says: - Izzy, have you really decided to finally make repairs? “No, Sarah, we're moving!”
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    1. Hudo
      Hudo 19 May 2013 11: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Abakanets
      (Ukrainians died in the Holodomor more than in the Second World War).


      After about 10 million inhabitants of Ukraine died from incapacity, the number of disappeared from the map of the outskirts of settlements confidently approaches 1000, on two streets of the village - three funeral homes I have the strength and desire to all fabulist-starving people if you don’t cut into the face, then at least spit.
      1. Skavron
        Skavron 19 May 2013 12: 28 New
        -6
        Quote: Hudo
        how about 10 million inhabitants of Ukraine died from inconsistency

        do not lie
        did not die ... moved
        in those days, for which Abakanets speaks, they only moved to the crematorium.
        1. ATATA
          ATATA 19 May 2013 12: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: Skavron
          do not lie
          did not die ... moved

          But what do they move from such good independence?
          It is only possible to breathe the air of freedom with full breasts, but something is not living on an independent, some in a geyropu, some in Canada.
          1. MG42
            MG42 19 May 2013 20: 55 New
            +5
            in 1991 under the USSR the population of Ukraine was 52 million. now there are about 45 million people, and there has been no war here during this time, ... >>> but who in Europe has such a problem to earn money as mothers even leave their families and go as nannies to Italy or other countries as housekeepers, but also mortality exceeds the birth rate, for example, in February 2013, 10 people were born less than the number of deaths, despite the fact that even the allowance for the birth of a child was increased, they are in no hurry to give birth ...
        2. Hudo
          Hudo 19 May 2013 12: 56 New
          +9
          Quote: Skavron
          do not lie
          did not die ... moved


          P E R E E X A L AND ????? !!!! This is what it is now called when in white slippers they dragged forward with your feet!
          Last year I was with my colleagues hunting in the Sumy region (Mutin, Zazerki, Yarovoye) had seen enough! There are strong houses but abandoned, a lot. People lived in them, they rejoiced at simple worldly joys, gave birth to children, made plans for the future ... But Svidomo-nezalezhnik came and destroyed the bastard! But cemeteries have grown unusually. And dates, more after 1991. Take you for a slimy skin, and near each grave where a person under 50 years old was buried soundly, with a whole heart put his face on the cabin, and where younger than 16 - twice. People like you do not understand other arguments!
          Threat. Here for you like a loophole for not entirely clear purposes created, a black list is called. Do not fail to turn me on, so that your shameless eyes are not very prickly.
        3. Setrac
          Setrac 19 May 2013 16: 54 New
          +3
          Quote: Skavron
          do not lie
          did not die ... moved
          in those days, for which Abakanets speaks, they only moved to the crematorium.

          For the state, Ukraine doesn’t care that they left, that they died. The human potential was reduced numerically by 20%, but qualitatively by a factor of two, since not disabled people and pensioners were leaving.
          1. MG42
            MG42 19 May 2013 20: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: Setrac
            For the state of Ukraine, I don’t care that they left, that they died

            For 1991-2012 from the map of Ukraine 641 rural settlements disappeared, of which 40 are villages and 601 villages. Writes about this "Ukrainian Tyzhden" with reference to the department for relations with local authorities and local government bodies of the Verkhovna Rada Administration.

            528 settlements disappeared due to the lack of residents, 128 more due to integration with other settlements or the inclusion of cities or urban-type settlements within the borders.

            Most of all during the years of independence villages in Kiev (94), Poltava (55), Zhytomyr (45), Sumy (45), Kharkov (42), Chernihiv (40) regions died out. Least of all - in Volyn (1), Transcarpathia (1), in Cherkasy (3), Lviv (5), Khmelnitsky (6), Rivne (7) regions.

            The year 2000 was a record for the extinction of villages. Then, 86 settlements were removed from administrative records (including 78 due to the lack of people). However, in 2002, due to the lack of residents, only three villages disappeared.

            Sociologists attribute the number of extinct villages to negative natural population growth.

            "In different regions of Ukraine, the situation is different. Only a few regions of Ukraine have not a minus, but a plus in terms of natural population growth," says Lyudmila Slyusar, a leading researcher at the Ptukha Institute of Demography and Social Research.

            "So, according to 2012, in the Volyn, Transcarpathian, Rivne, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk regions, more people were born than died. And the situation is the same in the city of Kiev," she added.

            At the end of March 2013, the Chernihiv Regional Council decided to deregister 7 settlements as such where no one lives. The corresponding decision was made on Friday March 29 during the next session of the regional council.
            http://rus.newsru.ua/ukraine/09apr2013/disappeared.html
            1. MG42
              MG42 19 May 2013 22: 49 New
              +4
              In the coming days, a book by 11 Ukrainian authors, “Mom on Skype,” will appear in Ukrainian bookstores.

              This is a German-Ukrainian project dedicated to the relationship of children and parents at a distance. The collection “Mom on Skype” included the stories of eleven modern Ukrainian authors. The book was published simultaneously in Ukraine and Germany. Presented at the Leipzisk Book Fair with the participation of Ukrainian writers and German translators.

              The author of the idea and the compiler of the book, writer, editor-in-chief of the “Old Lion Publishing House” Mariana Savka spoke about the plan and the authors of the book.
              How did you get the idea to create such a project?

              - The topic was on the surface, pSince in Ukrainian society labor migration, the problem of the gap between parents and children, due to the fact that they are on opposite sides of the border, is very urgent. She does not dare to do it; all the same, everyone is leaving en masse. Queues at visa centers do not decrease. Ukraine has done nothing to solve this problem. Nothing to give people a chance to stay and find work.

              The book came out quite old, but the children remain in focus. For they suffer first of all, remaining out of the attention of parents. Mom comes on Skype, but this is not enough to make the child feel protected. Such an intercultural project will show the problem in a new focus. Because Germany sees workers with different eyes - a party that takes in its premises a huge number of cleaners, caretakers of old, children, nannies. This book will in no way solve this problem. But if society begins to talk more about such closed topics, over time they will begin to look for ways to solve these problems.

              Faced personally with this problem?

              - Personally, I do not have such an experience in communicating with family people at a distance. But so often I see it in the life of my relatives, relatives. 2 years ago she was the chairman of the jury of the children's competition "Ukraine, in which I want to live." The work of one boy struck me more, I still remember him. “Italy is a good, sunny country. But for me she is inhospitable and cold. Because she took my mom. ” Probably, in Ukraine now there is no family in which there would be no labor migrants. In Western Ukraine, this topic is very acute.

              Our women decide to immigrate and this saves families. And a woman does this for the sake of her child, realizing what trauma she is doing at the same time. This choice is the only one. First of all, the book will be interesting to women.
              How to choose the authors?

              - It was important for me that the project involved writers who write for both children and adults. In addition, most authors have experience communicating with family at a distance. Natasha Guzeeva is an emigrant, a Kiev woman who lives in Germany, Tanya Malyarchuk now lives in Autria, Natalka Snyadanko once worked in Germany. The book will have both humor and a certain tragedy. But there is definitely no condemnation in it.

              Based on materials from Gazeta.ua
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 May 2013 10: 33 New
    +4
    Around the Crimea, there has long been some kind of behind-the-scenes fuss ... Crimea is Russian, we have shed a lot of blood there .. then the Tatars are buzzing, then our brothers Ukrainians are now Jews looming ... (and this is more serious) bully
  • Opera
    Opera 19 May 2013 10: 49 New
    +5
    Quote: vladsolo56
    For any Jews in the Crimea are better than the Tatars. I have how many Jews I knew, so they are a thousand times better than many, I won’t specify by nationality, because it's stupid

    You can’t imagine any more stupid thing!
    Quote: vladsolo56
    Moreover, I am sure that in this case Crimea would definitely remain a part of Russia. And not like now.

    And this is without comment at all! Here it turns out to be where our support and the hope of Russia!
  • MG42
    MG42 19 May 2013 11: 12 New
    +6
    Creation of Jewish Autonomy in Crimea

    ... still it will be necessary to press out the Crimean Tatars then in the struggle for a place under the Crimean sun
    Ukrainian power transfer
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 19 May 2013 12: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: MG42
      still it will be necessary to press out the Crimean Tatars then in the struggle for a place under the Crimean sun
      Experience is available. On January 21, 1921, a general meeting of the Crimean Revolutionary Committee and the Crimean Regional Committee of the RCP (B.) Was held, at which the question "On the political relations of the Crimea with the RSFSR and the UPRR" was considered. The adopted resolution was short: “To recognize the most optimal subordination of Crimea directly to Moscow as an autonomous unit, to give it the name“ Crimean Autonomous Region ”. The protocol noted: “Yu. Gaven remains in his dissenting opinion: in order to revolutionize the Muslim East, it is advisable to create the appearance of an independent Crimea, and therefore the Crimean Autonomous Region must be called the Crimean Commune. ” The local census of 1921 showed that Crimea was inhabited by five large national groups, the total number of which was close to 90% of the total population: Russians, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, Germans and Jews. More than half of the population of the peninsula were Russians and Ukrainians (the census took them into account as one national group) - 51,5%. The proportion of mountain and steppe Tatars (they differ ethnographically) during this census increased significantly - up to 25,9%. This was explained by the mass emigration of the Russian population during the years of the civil war.
      Based on this ethnic composition of the population, Crimean autonomy could only be territorial. However, the Kremlin created the appearance that the Crimean ASSR had, like all other autonomies, a national character. The leading positions in the republic were promoted by figures of Crimean Tatar origin. Yuri Gaven became the chairman of the Crimean Central Executive Committee, and S. Said-Galiev became the chairman of the Crimean SNK. In the formed Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, Crimean Tatars were recognized as indigenous people (in the mid-1920s, about 180 thousand Tatars lived in Crimea, 25% of the population of the peninsula). A non-partisan Tatar conference convened in 1921: the delegates called loudly to return several hundred compatriots and left their homeland in the initial period of the rule of the Russian Empire on the peninsula. The central Soviet power promptly responded: on October 18.10.21, 1921, they formed the Crimean Soviet Socialist Autonomous Republic within the RSFSR. And in the same 1783, the delegates of the Tatar non-partisan conference demanded that the Crimean Tatars be re-emigrated, hundreds of thousands of which, after 1920, the tsarist government forced to emigrate to Turkey and the Balkans and populate the steppe part of Crimea with them. But in addition to the Crimean Tatar, the Soviet leadership began to consider the Jewish project, according to which Jewish Jewish organizations expressed their desire to allocate funds for the settlement of the steppe Crimea not by anyone, but by Jews. The notorious Armand Hammer in the late 1920s stated that the possibility of mass resettlement of the Jewish population in Crimea (and not only from other regions of the RSFSR-USSR), as well as the creation of Jewish autonomy there were discussed during his conversations with Lenin and Trotsky. This was also discussed during a meeting with Lenin in 63, F.A. Vanderlip, an influential businessman and special representative of the US president. And of the two projects, the pragmatic Soviet government naturally chose the Jewish one. One of the main opponents of the mass resettlement of Jews in Crimea is Veli Ibraimov, Chairman of the Crimean Central Executive Committee. Under the personal control of Menzhinsky, the GPU fabricated the closed process “XNUMX”: they sent him to Solovki for resistance to Jewish colonization, where the color of the Tatar national intelligentsia was shot. The unrest of the Crimean Germans was severely suppressed. To eliminate it, the central apparatus of the OGPU developed a cunning operation. V. Ibraimov was called to Moscow, where under pressure he was forced to confess to organizing the murder of one of the Tatar activists and hiding the bandits.
  • atos_kin
    atos_kin 19 May 2013 11: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: Abakanets
    The USSR is the most Russophobic state in the history of the world, even on Nazi Germany there is less Russian blood than on the USSR. The October Revolution was not once Russian, it was carried out by the Jews of Lenin and Trotsky with German money, as a result of which Russia lost 25 million people in the region (the figures were recognized by the USSR, and this is not counting the famine) .Then there were a huge number of hungry years that were the result of an intentional policy Bolsheviks (Ukrainians died in the Holodomor more than in the Second World War). So the Jews will fight with Crimea, they have Israel surrounded by chocks, let them build their own Jewish power there.

    Ukraine has the opportunity to earn extra money by selling Crimea to its "beloved" Jews in order to continue to sit on the needle of independence.
  • vlad
    vlad 19 May 2013 11: 47 New
    +4
    yes, fortunately, Stalin is Stalin and not Trotsky or Gorbachev .. he certainly had to make concessions somewhere and so on, but he didn’t concede an inch of Soviet land .. And it was not for nothing that he initiated the creation of Israel. So he smoothly turned arrows to Palestine.
  • Opera
    Opera 19 May 2013 11: 47 New
    +3
    A mourning rally dedicated to the 69th anniversary of the deportation of Crimean Tatars was held in Simferopol yesterday. Of course, this is a tragedy of both the people themselves and individual families, but ... That’s the general content of the slogans with which the Tatars came are quite modern = they won’t take us to the EU with such power in the ARC! Traditionally, the head of the Majlis, Mustafa Dzhemilev, also spoke in favor of the resignation of the head of the ARC of Mogilev. He also said that petitions about allegedly chauvinistic activities of the ARC government will be transferred to the EU’s power structures, etc. Everything went generally peaceful and I can’t say that there were a lot of people. Many Tatars, as well as Russians and Greeks, quietly traded on the Kuibyshev market and generally went about their business. The general reaction of those observing what is happening is that if the protesters so want to join the European Union, then the rally is clearly not at the address. In general, only Jews are not enough! They know the address! That's just all the troubles in the Crimea!
    1. Abakanets
      Abakanets 19 May 2013 11: 53 New
      10
      Tatars and Caucasians deserve deportation, a third of Crimean Tatars fought for the Germans in WWII
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 19 May 2013 12: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Oper
      That's just all the troubles in the Crimea!
      Here is the basic demand of the West on the Crimean issue in 1945
      : "" Strictly confidential.
      US Department of Commerce
      A. Garrimanu
      Dear Averell!
      The President approves your plans. He added the following to them. Coexistence in the territory of Crimea bases of the Soviet Black Sea Fleet and the Jewish Republic, open to the free entry of Jews from around the world, seems inconsistent, fraught with unpredictable consequences. This from the very beginning raised his doubts about the reality of the “Crimean project”. Crimea should become a demilitarized zone. Let Stalin know that he must be prepared to relocate the fleet from Sevastopol to Odessa and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. Then we will believe that the Crimean Jewish Republic is a reality, not a propaganda myth. J. Marshall »
      WHAT IS NOW DIFFERENT IN THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PART OF OUR UKRAINIAN "POLITICIANS"?
  • Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 19 May 2013 12: 10 New
    10
    Apparently the "Chosen Nation" has greatly angered God, since they have been smacked all over the world for two millennia and there is no end in sight.
    AXA-HA, I laugh, I could not want Crimea, but received the New Earth beyond the Arctic Circle. So I imagined the picture:
    Another new (at that time) northern river station, monumental structures of the station itself and the water stadium, a hydro-airport on the other side of the canal. To the sounds of a brass band, the march of Slavyanka is carried out in a quiet smooth surface. Excited passengers stand at the sides, waving their hands, from the pier, the teary mourners throw flowers that fall into the water onto the ship. A caravan of 17 cruise ships headed towards the Solovetsky Islands. And only a flock of ducks had it all on the drum, they met a splashed plane in the hope that tired pilots would feed them bread.
    1. knn54
      knn54 19 May 2013 13: 08 New
      +2
      Baskaus: ... they have been scabbling around the world for two millennia, and there is no end in sight.
      So they treat anti-Semitism with "respect", given its venerable age.
  • Opera
    Opera 19 May 2013 12: 10 New
    +6
    Quote: Abakanets
    Tatars and Caucasians deserve deportation, a third of Crimean Tatars fought for the Germans in WWII

    You are not the Lord God to judge the fate of nations. Deserved those who deserve! There were not a few who deserved something else, but who received like everyone else! Not a few of them now, who do not wander under the European Union slogans.
    And the majority of Russians in Crimea are in general, and they generally look in the opposite direction from tolerant Europe and deserve another!
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 19 May 2013 13: 00 New
      +4
      Quote: Oper
      There were not a few who deserved something else, but who received like everyone else!

      Here is what is said in the memorandum of the Deputy People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the USSR I.A.Serov addressed to L.P. Beria, dated April 22, 1944:
      “... All those drafted into the Red Army amounted to 90 thousand people, including 20 thousand Crimean Tatars ... 20 thousand Crimean Tatars deserted in 1941 from the 51st Army when it retreated from the Crimea ...”.
      In this way, all 100% of the Crimean Tatars changed their oath, and switched to the side of the enemy. However, they did not limit themselves simply to desertion, but joined the ranks of the invaders and began actively, with weapons in their hands, to fight against the Red Army and Soviet partisans operating in the Crimea. Certificate of the High Command of the German Ground Forces of March 20, 1942:
      “... about 10 thousand volunteers were recruited for service in the Wehrmacht. According to the Tatar Committee, village elders organized another 4000 people. to fight the partisans. In addition, about 5000 volunteers are ready to replenish the formed military units ... we can assume that all combat-ready Tatars are taken into account. ”
      “The mood of the Tatars is good. The German authorities are obedient and proud if they are recognized in the service or outside it. The greatest pride for them is to have the right to wear a German uniform. ”. Here, an analogy involuntarily suggests itself with the collaborators of Western Ukraine, who took the oath of allegiance to Hitler and massively joined the SS division "Galicia and the Nachtigall battalion." Although the Western Ukrainians still looked paler than their Crimean Tatar counterparts in terms of the ratio of the population of Galicia and the number who went to serve the Germans, up to 10% of the traitors didn’t get there.
      In fairness, it should be noted the heroism of the Crimean Tatars. Among them - legend of fighter aviation Twice Hero of the Soviet Union Ametkhan Sultan, Heroes of the Soviet Union Uzeyir Abduramanov, Fetislyam (Anatoly) Abilov, Abduraim Reshidov, Seitnafe Seitveliev, Abdul Teyfuk, Seit-Ibraim (Saadul Isaevich) Musaeruyev Ordelev-full Ordeev-Orulyev Ordelyev-nee Ordeev-Ordely-Ordelev-museuden-neder Ablyakim Gafarov, Abibulla Mustafayev and hundreds of other officers, foremen, sergeants, privates, sailors.
      But not about any “betrayal” Greeks, Armenians and Bulgarians in Crimea can not be considered. It is important that at that time and later the Greeks and Bulgarians in neighboring cities and regions were not touched. Surprising is the special haste of punitive organs. The Crimean peninsula was liberated by the Red Army in April 1944 and on May 17-18, parts of the NKVD carried out an operation to evict all Crimean Tatars from the peninsula, they were soon followed by the Greeks and Bulgarians.
  • Straus_zloy
    Straus_zloy 19 May 2013 12: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: Bashkaus
    Apparently the "Chosen Nation" has greatly angered God, since they have been smacked all over the world for two millennia and there is no end in sight.


    Well, God has nothing to do with it. ЧМ0hid them for 4 for thousands of years and you can see the matter in them.
  • ATATA
    ATATA 19 May 2013 12: 21 New
    +4
    Guys!
    Open your eyes, they got not the Crimea, but the whole of Ukraine!
    Ukraine, as a state, is a new Khazar Khaganate.
  • vlad
    vlad 19 May 2013 12: 25 New
    +4
    This God-chosen nation, which owns the IMF’s capital, has already entangled the whole world with its loans. And they also give a loan to Ukraine, but loan conditions are tough. Do not invest this money in education and medicine.
    1. ATATA
      ATATA 19 May 2013 12: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: Vlad
      Read without education stupid people without medicine extinction

      Guess why?
  • vlad
    vlad 19 May 2013 12: 33 New
    +1
    and then to turn the world into a solid supermarket where everything is sold and everything is bought. They need consumers and not educated and mouths too.
  • individual
    individual 19 May 2013 12: 58 New
    +6
    I look at the historical significance of the Russian Empire, the USSR, and Russia for influence in the WORLD and draw a conclusion - the government of I.V. Stalin was the most significant, the most patriotic direction among the country's top leaders.
  • regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 19 May 2013 14: 10 New
    +5
    that’s a nation! always for themselves the warmest place will be picked up in all senses of this phrase laughing
  • zennon
    zennon 19 May 2013 14: 41 New
    +3
    And I would appoint the Kolyma Highlands as the promised land. For eternal times.
  • unknown
    unknown 19 May 2013 15: 28 New
    0
    Actually, the word "Jew" is translated as "immigrant" Only.
    Without any national indication
    Accordingly, any migrant is a Jew

    The word "Jew" is "ideological". For the first idea is the divine idea.

    The word "Tatar" is correct "Tarkhtarin".
    Living under the auspices of Tarh and Tara, children of the god Perun
    Perun is a Russian god.
    And what about the Turkic people? Where did it come from?
    By the way, even in the time of Suvorov, both Russians and the so-called "Tatars" prayed in the same churches.
    Not surprising. "Islam" - "Issa" and "teaching" - "Teachings of Jesus"
    Islam is actually "Iconoclasm". One of the Orthodox heresies.

    And I heard a version about the creation of a Jewish state in Crimea for a very long time. Moreover, the source tied the pests of doctors to this issue. There is no smoke without fire.
    The October Revolution was financed by Germany and Great Britain and France
    Then, in its struggle for world domination, Britain raised Hitler, and the United States relied on the USSR
    The Soviet Union defeated Germany, which before it destroyed Europe, and helped the United States destroy the British colonial empire. And then our paths parted. All the problems are because of this.
    But empires always perish at the peak of their development.
    If the forecasts come true, then in 15-20 years we will witness a new series of Marleson ballet
  • Rrv
    Rrv 19 May 2013 15: 48 New
    +2
    "How Putin celebrated Hanukkah": www.3rm.info/6697-kak-putin-xanuku-spravlyal.html

    "President Putin and Jewish Extremism": pomnimvse.com/72pb.html
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 19 May 2013 15: 58 New
      +2
      "If anyone, presbyter, bishop, deacon, or generally from the list of clergy, fasts with the Jews, or celebrates with them, or receives from them the gifts of their feasts, such as unleavened bread, or something similar: let him be cast out. If the layman: be excommunicated. "

      70th rule of the holy apostles.
      1. Rrv
        Rrv 19 May 2013 15: 59 New
        -4
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        1. Kars
          Kars 19 May 2013 16: 06 New
          +1
          Only it seems to me that there are two tankers in the background of the VO site, and that Putin is in the tank helmet?
          1. Rrv
            Rrv 19 May 2013 16: 38 New
            -3
            Quote: Kars
            Only it seems to me that there are two tankers in the background of the VO site, and that Putin is in the tank helmet?
          2. individual
            individual 19 May 2013 17: 35 New
            +1
            I confirm. Face tankman soldier looks like Putin.
          3. Rustiger
            Rustiger 20 May 2013 20: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Kars
            It seems to me that in the background of the VO site there are two tankers, and the fact that Putin is in the tank helmet?

            I think that so many "thought", but on closer examination, there is certainly a similarity, only "not spilled".
        2. esaul
          esaul 19 May 2013 17: 23 New
          +2
          Rrv
          As I understand it, comrade visitor, without a residence, you are embarrassed by a cross on his chest near the GDP? I wear the same cross. How do you rate this? do you wear a crescent moon? So - the flag in your hands. The only wish is not to get to the devouring of a person’s heart.
          1. ATATA
            ATATA 19 May 2013 17: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: esaul
            As I understand it, comrade visitor, without a residence, you are embarrassed by a cross on his chest near the GDP?

            No, they were embarrassed by the cap on the head of GDP.
            Think collage.
            1. Rrv
              Rrv 19 May 2013 18: 17 New
              -1
              Yes, there are collages around! laughing

              polit.ru/news/2005/04/29/putin/
          2. Rrv
            Rrv 19 May 2013 18: 10 New
            +3
            Esaulu:


            No, comrade Valery from Novosibirsk, I am confused by the double standards and statements about morons and provocateurs, made against the background of official statistics, which speak about the significant prevalence of the Russian ethnic group over the rest.
            Proceeding from such statements, the conclusion suggests itself that Russia, a country with "sovereign democracy", is not intended for a democratic majority. bully
            1. Rrv
              Rrv 19 May 2013 18: 33 New
              +1
              Excuse me, Valery, I forgot to ask: are you also a cross - are you carrying a pile? laughing
  • d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd 19 May 2013 16: 32 New
    -8
    In light of the USSR’s division (drinking), it would be better for the Russian Federation now that Crimea be a Jewish republic. Jews at least do not praise Bendera and Hitlerites and do not spread rot for the Great Patriotic War!
    1. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 19 May 2013 16: 53 New
      -4
      For the people of the Russian Federation, a Jew who truly loves his Motherland (Russian Federation) is better than another "Russian" who is ready to sell (and sold) it for 30 pieces of silver!
      No bad nations, there are sh * t "people"
      1. Rrv
        Rrv 19 May 2013 18: 25 New
        +3
        Quote: d.gksueyjd

        No bad nations, there are sh * t "people"


        And there is a national mentality, that is, culture, cultural stereotypes - which makes some peoples in our understanding of "shit * mi".
  • Opera
    Opera 19 May 2013 17: 10 New
    +5
    Quote: d.gksueyjd
    For the people of the Russian Federation, a Jew who truly loves his Motherland (Russian Federation) is better than another "Russian" who is ready to sell (and sold) it for 30 pieces of silver!

    For the people of Russia, it would be better if they did not climb on it from all sides with advice and teachings! And for advisers calmer.
  • Opera
    Opera 19 May 2013 18: 38 New
    +2
    Quote: Kaa
    WHAT IS NOW DIFFERENT IN THE REQUIREMENTS OF A PART OF OUR UKRAINIAN "POLITICIANS"?

    Yes, they are not ours!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 19 May 2013 18: 43 New
    +3
    Yes, we will figure it out soon with everyone .. not the first time and not the last (I would like a little blood). We got it all !!!
  • Stalinets
    Stalinets 20 May 2013 06: 33 New
    +1
    Who were those 22 hierophants who left Egypt with the Jews ????? Are they generally people, or something else ...? request
  • dmb
    dmb 20 May 2013 09: 29 New
    +1
    Human memory has one property, to forget the recent past. However, many people on the site could not remember him, because were at an age when the rattle is more interested than politics. Before evaluating this article, I recommend going to the library and reading newspapers from the beginning of the 90's. You will learn a lot of interesting things about how Poltoranin (now speaking as a fighter for the Stalinist legacy) did not like Stalin and accordingly loved Yeltsin, Yakovlev and Volkogonov. Andryusha Karaulov in this sense did not go far from him. In those same years, he equally angrily and just as heavily exposed the Stalinist regime. This is to say that all the balabolstvo about Crimea is broken up by the statement of Budnitsky given in the article. Documents. They are not. After all, it is very convenient, instead of evidence, to refer to the secrecy of the now deceased sinister. Believe the words of Poltoranin, can only those who have never before read the directly opposite, what he said under other circumstances.
  • Reinhard
    Reinhard 18 January 2014 21: 53 New
    -1
    Whatever. Comrade Stalin did not engage in nonsense. All for the country.