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And in our apartment - gas!Good afternoon, colleagues. I just want to warn you that this article is not about gas, or rather, not only about gas, although this blessed hydrocarbon deserves the warmest and most grateful words in our technologically sophisticated time, when the industry cannot simply breathe without this gas.


It will be about a certain selection of articles. Not about the cycle, as I was told by the distinguished Gleb and LUKA in their comments on the article “Do you want songs? I have them! ”(This is too loud), namely, a selection of topics covered in the article about possible options for the Russian response to challenges from countries - long-standing and unrecoverable Russian opponents and, as an answer to the request,“ Facts in the studio! "- some and, as a confirmation of the words, that I avoid expressing facts not confirmed by facts, - of others. I am very grateful to both of them, since they pushed me to hurry with the long-conceived idea to offer you a few articles, united by some common heading. And I decided that once the topics covered in these articles highlight our capabilities and our achievements, they emphasize something that we have in opposition to our competitors and that we can counter them in a dispute. Well, for this purpose I decided to use a line from everything from the childhood of a famous poem.

These articles will be original answers to the questions raised and will deal with several aspects, where Russia's successes and opportunities are quite significant today and can fully provide Russia with a full-fledged standoff in all kinds of geopolitical, military and information battles that have not gone away in our time and excite our minds.

It could be limited to giving a lot of links to which I rely before giving my comment or conclusion, but as the observations have shown, some forum users are just too lazy to use these “hints”, but prefer to see extracts from texts or individual quotes before their eyes. Well, what - go ahead?

If you recall all my, if possible concise, arguments from the mentioned article, then those who wish to confirm it can easily be found on the Internet, but one of them, I think, needs first of all a reinforcement with facts. I mean my words that the Poles are very sympathetic to the very personality of our President and even enthusiastically speak of his initiative to redefine relations with France regarding the adoption of Russian children. First of all, I’ll immediately give you a link to a site called Ursa Manor, which has a translation section of Polish forums where discussion of events in Russia and Russian-Polish relations are the most lively discussed.
http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/gallery/image/7057-15358226/

Next, I will give you a few comments from the forum where Putin’s words about the above-mentioned question of Russian-French relations regarding the adoption of children were vividly discussed. The article itself in the Polish media was held under the heading "Adoption of children from Russia by homosexuals. Putin announces a revision."

The topic covered in this article was summarized as “how the Russian authorities can revise the agreements on the adoption of Russian children with countries that legalized homosexual marriages,” said President Vladimir Putin. First of all, it may concern the contract with France.

And now - a little (so as not to bore the reader) of the forum:

Ja - A sound mind should we look for in the east?
peterNYcity - Bravo, Putin, there are still normal countries, God forbid that there are more such countries.
antyPO - Bravo, Putin ... a real man with principles ... Oh, how vaginoskeptics will start barking now ...
Gostek - In this question, I envy Russia that Putin is there ...
Liberał - Who would have thought that in the East there are such good and rational ideas J
Qwe - I can't stand him, but this time I have to praise Vladimir for a sound mind.
Kik - Bravo, Putin. The West is a solid g ... oh, Poland must finally open to the East.
My - The brains of Polish politicians compared to Putin’s - like r ... o compared to orange.

And so on…

Well, with this question, I think - figured it out. Of course, those interested will find in this forum a lot of negativity about our country, but this will once again underline the wretchedness of the thinking of the washed brains of those who speak of Russia in a derogatory and contemptuous tone. Let's go further.

Should I dwell separately on some objections of individual members of the forum according to my words that lately the Russian Army has been intensively arming modern types of weapons and that in this area there is not just a simple production of new types, but a modern material base is being created, without which these weapons simply do not produce? For those who wish, I can offer offhand links to sites:
"MILITARY REVIEW" (I think the link itself you, dear forum users, do not need to be brought),
«WAR AND PEACE»
«EYE OF THE PLANET»
«MILITARY PARITY»
«MILITARY NEWS»
«NATIONAL DEFENSE»
«ROCKET TECHNOLOGY»

one of my favorites (after VO, naturally) - «CONTRPOST» … etc.

There are many of them that you know without me, colleagues. And all the information can be successfully received from there. And if you think about it a bit, then comments about the complete destruction of the military-industrial complex will seem ridiculous to you. With all that, I do not deny that much has been missed and even lost, but - the road will be mastered.

I think the need for a separate article on the rearmament of the Russian Army disappears because Anyone who wishes can find and see in the mass of specialized resources a positive or disappointingly objective information.

For topics like TECHNOLOGICAL LEVERS, GEOPOLITICAL, PURE ECONOMIC and IDEOLOGICAL, going to meet those who wish, I am ready to express my point of view and offer them in the form of a selection of my articles. And to you, dear colleagues, to agree or scourge ... With pleasure I will listen to both. Of course, “A kind word and a cat is nice,” but how can one manage without the painful bites of opponents ...

Thus, colleagues, I, in my opinion, answered your comments on the questions in two sections, and on the rest (which I singled out) you still have to wash the bones of the author or express your solidarity. But, you forgive me, one of the most voluminous sections I have covered is, nevertheless, a section on political confrontation, on political battles taking place before our eyes and in our time and where, in my opinion, the most interesting and sharp skirmishes and the most ingenious strategic multiple moves. In the articles on this section I would like to offer short retellings about people who deserve to be known and equated with their actions and their moral greatness. At one time I came up with a unifying name for this collection. "PEOPLE OF HONOR, DEBT AND HEART" and these articles will be about people of the military profession who have dedicated their lives to serving the Fatherland in different historical segments. These are not my author’s stories and, therefore, I will definitely indicate the true author and, I think, some names will turn out to be familiar to you. But just because of employment, I still can’t take it completely. I will try.

Sincerely, ESAUL
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  1. Canep
    Canep 20 May 2013 06: 04 New
    +6
    And if you think a little, then the comments about the complete collapse of the defense industry complex will seem ridiculous to you. For all that, I do not deny that much has been lost and even lost, but the one who walks will take the road.
    I agree while those people who were engaged in development under the USSR are not alive, everything is lost, factories and factories are all secondary, in the first place are the designers and their teams. The prestige of engineering professions is now, thank God, is rising.
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 20 May 2013 07: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Canep
      I agree while those people who were engaged in development under the USSR are not alive, everything is lost

      But this is secondary, in Russia there have always been, are and will be smart people, with any system. Nevertheless, the most important thing is the understanding of the country's leadership of the “realities of a long existence” and from which, proceeding, at last, it will fully utilize the potential in the form of the smartest people, as in the days of the former USSR. Regarding the article, the author is right that there are too many timid alarmists and pessimists who are thrown side to side who either do not see or do not understand what is happening positively. More often, such “building” articles are needed. Belief in your own strength is worth a lot, because "Not the one who disappeared was in trouble, but the one who lost spirit!"
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 20 May 2013 08: 03 New
        +4
        Quote: SPACE
        But this is secondary, in Russia there have always been, are and will be smart people, with any system.


        Absolutely. One of our philosophers (unfortunately only the meaning of the phrase remained in my head. Without the name of the author.) Said that Russia has a unique ability to self-repair (after self-destruction). And the first thing she does on this path is giving birth to geniuses. From where, why - it is not clear. After all, everything seems to be destroyed, sold, betrayed, but new scientists, business executives, politicians come and revive their former greatness. An objective pattern, however ... So let's wait. It would be good to stop self-destruction.
        1. fortunophile
          fortunophile 20 May 2013 09: 34 New
          +8
          Well, there’s even nothing to discuss, an "empty" article with Poles who don’t like homosuxuality for some reason praise Putin (complete nonsense), but right there
          Of course, those interested will find in this forum a lot of negativity about our country.

          You can pull so many “pearls” on this forum, and then put them on an American resource with a replica, of course there is a lot of positive on this state of affairs in the RA, but “but this will once again emphasize the wretched thinking of the brainwashed of those who watch the blabble "
          Next, a bunch of "water" about the rearmament and a bunch of links, but also with some reservations ...
          Well, in the end, there’s at least some kind of “grain” about creating a new section, I’d just like to read about really real people, and not about the Chukchi hunter - the sniper who came to Shamanov with an old Berdana and “laid” more Chechens than there were according to the census is listed.
          Why this article was written, it remains to me not clear. The author feels resentment at "incomprehensibility", but "clarification" from the article does not occur. I recall yesterday’s phrase of the author in one of the comments “if they miss my article tomorrow, then everyone will understand that I am responsible for my words” (it sounded like this, the meaning is 100%)
          I STATE:
          Yesaul answered the words with words. The word cycle on the forum. hi
          And as always the trouble with the names, then Putin will ascribe the words of the criminal (you want songs ...), then remember about the gas do not understand why request
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 20 May 2013 11: 03 New
            +5
            Quote: fortuneophile
            Yesaul answered the words with words. The word cycle on the forum

            In this case I support. She put the article minus because she expected more specifics. Moreover, Yesaul can write a more serious, thoughtful article. In the meantime, really "about nothing."
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 11: 40 New
              +3
              Quote: Egoza
              In this case I support. Put article minus


              support author minus negative and you plus good
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 20 May 2013 12: 14 New
                +4
                but I don’t think it’s worth minus. Yesaul is not from the side. he’s been here for a long time. there were complaints on the materials, he briefly tried to answer. I’m not a minus article, although I disagree with it completely and consider it provocative, just because it causes a stormy discussion and carries interesting points (although it happens and minus).
                sometimes it’s surprising such a moment — where does people have so much time for comments here. And articles need not only time. Therefore, it seems to me that you can disagree and write in the discussion, but it’s not worth minus for such articles (there is nothing provocative in it). because for the site he writes.
                I remember clinging to Esaul before, and now, on some issues, my views differ, but he is local
                1. fortunophile
                  fortunophile 20 May 2013 12: 50 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Gleb
                  I remember clinging to Esaul before, and now, on some issues, my views differ, but he is local

                  Gleb, and the rest of the "come here" category? Why divide the members of the forum into local and "others"? I would really like you to justify how Yesaul differs from other forum users. I have never seen useful information on technical topics and military issues from him, only the slogans “To Glory”. I consider it "local": Mechanics (Navy, now Armata), VAF and SSI (Aviation), Ascetic (ABM, ICBMs) and many others (I’m sorry I can’t list all), these are the people who make the site just Military Review "and does not slide into the jaundice with political squabbles.
                  Yes, Yesaul is smart and educated, but no more than that, a clear minus is his "fixation" on power. IMHO.
                  Gleb, I hope for your answer
                  1. Hleb
                    Hleb 20 May 2013 13: 05 New
                    +1
                    he has a "fixation" on power.

                    that is why we clung. and pretty well. but ..
                    it’s not about comments, but about the article. I repeat, we are sitting here in three languages, and this is thanks to the articles, which is why I separated it from those whose articles are copied to the site from other resources, but! never separated it from the Mechanic Wafa and others.
                    but you are separating. that is, you are trying to show (merit, give positions) that the aforementioned comrades are well-deserved, and some are not. Is there nothing that people just served urgently or didn’t serve at all? and they’re sitting here. Now don’t respect them.
                    we used to (I remember Sibiryaka) were very unhappy with the rating rating and the theme of the site. but where did we go? here I want to say, I don’t like the site polishing, ask a question to people who shape the site’s mode and theme.
                    (I’m still sitting at a sports forum, if a forum member’s corral begins, especially an old-timer ban without appeal. Groups were discussed here more than once) I didn’t share this, but I just wanted to say just that.
                    1. fortunophile
                      fortunophile 20 May 2013 13: 17 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Gleb
                      it’s not about comments, but about the article. I repeat, we are sitting here in three languages, and this is thanks to the articles

                      The fact of the matter is that this is not an article, but a "cry" of a baboon bitten in .. at. They didn’t understand him, he was offended and posted above that which cannot be called an article, having previously posted an “announcement” in a comment yesterday: tomorrow in my article I will prove that I am responsible for my words. Answered? Not! Printed "rubbish". That's why I posted my comment with criticism. And I see not for me alone this "creation" did not like winked
                      Quote: Gleb
                      but you separate. that is, trying to show that the above comrades are well-deserved, and some are not

                      Yes, they are “deserved” (your word) because in a simple and clear manner they talk about complex things in topics in which they are pros. For me, their opinion on issues is very important and by reading their comments I broaden my horizons. hi
                      Quote: Gleb
                      there if the forum member’s corral begins, the more the old-timer ban without appeal.)

                      Only "hazing" on the site was not enough ... If a person with cardboard epaulettes writes nonsense, then he needs to say that he does not understand anything, not looking at how much he is on the site. A person must be "lowered to the ground" in time so that it does not start "there are two opinions of mine and wrong." I here in one topic, "aksakal" tried to "build" like I was a marshal and an old-timer, and you are a "woodpecker" early and that means listen to me, otherwise it will be bad wassat
                      Broke off, I have a lot of experience communicating with different people, if I'm right then I go to the end, if I'm not right, then I apologize to the teenager hi
                      1. Hleb
                        Hleb 20 May 2013 13: 32 New
                        0
                        The fact of the matter is that this is not an article, but a "cry" of a baboon bitten in ..

                        Well, for example, yesterday the article was about the country's losses in the Second World War. Remember, but it caused so many emotions. I’m not talking about the rating of the site. But people, at least thanks to the article and the discussions, make out the misinformation for spare parts and most importantly we see what is the truth is provocation. We read interesting arguments with evidence. I find out about many here, although for a long time many people think that this is really true. Isn't that a plus?
                        For me, their opinion on issues is very important and by reading their comments I broaden my horizons.
                        and for some, political topics serve as insight. There will not be such communication here as it is now, if you limit the site, drive it into the framework of the defense industry.
                        Only "hazing" on the site was not enough ... If a person with cardboard epaulettes writes nonsense, then he needs to say that he fool ... to Do not look at how much he is on the site. Man must be "lowered to the ground" on time

                        I don’t even know what to answer.hazingand somehow. whether I put it that way. whether you are angry. Alex, what is there to share?
                        (Yesaul, you need to answer questions to those who want to hear. People are unhappy))
                      2. esaul
                        20 May 2013 19: 55 New
                        +5
                        Quote: Gleb
                        Yesaul, you need to answer questions to those who want to hear. People are unhappy))


                        Gleb, good evening. I just came home from work and read what’s going on here. Thank you, Gleb, for your kind words, but - where do you see the questions? Before us is an ordinary Internet squeal and squeal that nothing is clear .... Bacchanalia and the persecution of a man who has found the courage to express his opinion, which is objectionable to the formed company. I mean the disgusting situation of bullying that was organized against ANTI. It reminds me of a flock of hyenas that attacked in a crowd - they tear, screech and can cling to each other. That's where - disgusting. But at the same time, do not forget to shame and wrangle about nobility and respect. That's where - ashamed of them. And you, Gleb, thank you for the weight of words.
                        I will not answer the "questions" in the branch that was turned into a coven. The thinking people will see the answers. And tomorrow - an article, as the answer to one of the questions.
                        Sincerely. Valery.
                        PS. Thanks to ALL of you guys who sympathized with the article. Thank. drinks
                      3. fortunophile
                        fortunophile 20 May 2013 19: 58 New
                        -3
                        Quote: esaul
                        Bacchanalia and the persecution of a man who has found the courage to express his opinion, which is objectionable to the formed company. I mean the disgusting situation of bullying organized against ANTI.

                        Well, who would doubt it, the one who defended Yesaul D Artagnan, and the rest ... that this D Artanyan, in a fit of controversy, began to shift to personality and throw a suspension on a fan does not play a special role lol
                        It’s easier to make everyone “offend the artist” and scribble like an article winked
                        How predictable you are ... Look at the most recent comments by Apollo and mine, we have "calculated" you about writing a new article wink
                      4. Apollo
                        Apollo 20 May 2013 20: 04 New
                        +2
                        Quote: esaul
                        Before us is an ordinary Internet srach. Bacchanalia and the persecution of a man who has found the courage to express his opinion, which is objectionable to the formed company. I mean the disgusting situation of bullying that was organized against ANTI. It reminds me of a flock of hyenas that attacked in a crowd - they tear, screech and can cling to each other. That's where - disgusting. And you, Gleb, thank you for the weight of words.
                        I will not answer the "questions" in the branch that was turned into a coven. The thinking people will see the answers. And tomorrow - an article, as the answer to one of the questions.


                        1. Where you saw the company, here everyone on their own, everyone writes to the best of their knowledge and life experience.
                        2. Here and now is ready to oppose you if you do not mind.
                        3. Cons, Oleg put in two cases and he knows why, then the truth has corrected his rating.
                        4. Oleg impresses me more than you Valery, we must pay tribute to him, he courageously accepted the blows.
                        5. Lay out the article and not answer, for example, I would like to oppose you, but you were not.
                        6. Where you saw the Sabbath, praise God, although the polemic was sharp, but within the framework of the rules.
                        7. In one, of course, I agree with you, thinking people will really see everything.

                        afterword when you post the article, don’t leave. Is it coming ?!
                      5. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 20 May 2013 21: 05 New
                        +2
                        Quote: esaul
                        Before us is an ordinary Internet squeal and squeal that nothing is clear .... Bacchanalia and persecution of a man who has found the courage to express his opinion, which is objectionable to the formed company. I mean the disgusting situation of persecution that was organized against ANTI. It reminds me of a flock of hyenas that attacked in a crowd - they tear, scream and can cling to each other. That's where - disgusting. But at the same time, do not forget to shame and wrangle about nobility and respect. That's where - ashamed of them

                        Honestly, I didn’t want to write on this topic and enter into any skirmish!
                        But your licorice is simply amazing!
                        Didn’t you see insults to the addresses of the local users of your ward Anti earlier ?? Remember how he insulted a respected woman here? Remember, I showed you his insults to my address, which I never answered back then ?? What did you answer ??? You answered what do you think is normal !!!
                        Is it not you who controls this poor man ???
                        Aren't you constantly telling him who pluses and minuses him ??
                        I would never write about this, but your duplicity is already sick of it !!
                        Didn’t you tell me when I first came to this site that they suggested you be in your group and wrote to me that everyone needs to unite and add and minus certain people in an organized way !!? Now talk about some kind of company?
                        I always treated you well and even during quarrels I tried to get around you and collide!
                        But SO NOT !!
                        If you are honest you have to be him to the end !!
                        Even if your brother is to blame, you need to tell him about it and restrain him, and not cover !!
                        In principle, you do the same as the one you root for!
                        Also cover your own, because you are mired with him in a smelling business!
                      6. Anti
                        Anti 20 May 2013 21: 13 New
                        0
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Is it not you who controls this poor man ???
                        Aren't you constantly telling him who pluses and minuses him ??

                        here exactly, as the Clinic says here! laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
                        storyteller from Azerbaijan laughing laughing laughing

                        went with Asian insidiousness, outright lies laughing fellow
                      7. fortunophile
                        fortunophile 20 May 2013 21: 16 New
                        0
                        Quote: Anti
                        here it’s exactly as the Clinic says here! storyteller from Azerbaijan

                        And what kind of "old insult" is on Azerbaijanis? It’s a direct pathology, maybe you need to go to a doctor, otherwise it’s probably difficult to live with such a complex? This is especially evident when it is clearly visible that you are "relaxed." I can understand the "heated debate" between Azerbaijanis and Armenians, everything is clear here in view of the protracted and ongoing war. Maybe you are from Armenia?
                        This is not a banter, I just really want to understand
                      8. Anti
                        Anti 20 May 2013 21: 20 New
                        0
                        Quote: fortuneophile
                        And what kind of "old insult" is on Azerbaijanis?


                        I have no offense to them is an excellent hospitable people, but the ataturk did not forget this exception.
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 20 May 2013 21: 27 New
                      0
                      Quote: Anti
                      storyteller from Azerbaijan

                      come to visit me!
                      I'm inviting you!!
                      We’ll meet you, calmly express everything you want in my face, if you can !!
                      I promise you my hospitality and my complete protection!
                      You will be a dear guest!
                      Our guest is holy, so do not worry about anything!
                    3. Anti
                      Anti 20 May 2013 21: 38 New
                      0
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      come to visit me!

                      Thanks for the invitation! I can say what I think, everywhere, at any level, there are no problems, but not as your guest.
                      I was afraid of mine!
                    4. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 20 May 2013 21: 42 New
                      0
                      Quote: Anti
                      I was afraid of mine!

                      I didn’t mean that you would be scared of me)))))))))
                      I am a very nice-looking person and very kind)))
                      I meant that seeing me and getting to know me closer is unlikely to be able to and want to say the same words that I said before and now !!!))
                      At least I believe in it!
                      I sincerely invite you at any time of the year !!!!
                    5. Anti
                      Anti 20 May 2013 21: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      I meant that seeing me and getting to know me better you can hardly say the same words that I said before and now !!!)))


                      Everything can be, maybe you knowing me, you can hardly say the same words that I said before and now! In the meantime, I will stay in the opposition. laughing
                    6. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 20 May 2013 22: 00 New
                      0
                      Quote: Anti
                      Everything can be, maybe you knowing me, you can hardly say the same words that I said before and now! In the meantime, I will stay in the opposition.

                      Yes, for God's sake, be even in opposition, even in a parliamentary group * shining star *)))
                      I’m not in a party and I’m not calling you friends !!!))))
                      Just a visit)))))))))
                    7. Anti
                      Anti 20 May 2013 22: 06 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      For God's sake!
                      I’m not in a party and I’m not calling you friends !!!))))
                      Just a visit)))))))))

                      Once again, I am sincerely grateful, but circumstances do not allow me to accept the offer at the moment. Comrade Dzhalilov was at my place of work, I won’t say my name, he was visiting him in Baku, I know everything about hospitality.
            2. Anti
              Anti 21 May 2013 00: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Yarbay
              We’ll meet you, calmly express everything you want in my face, if you can!


              You were under the nickname Ataturk ??? ((((
            3. Yarbay
              Yarbay 21 May 2013 10: 13 New
              0
              Quote: Anti
              You were under the nickname Ataturk ??? ((((

              you know what not !!
              it was a completely different person!
    2. Joker
      Joker 20 May 2013 22: 40 New
      +4
      Esaul, the whole problem in your article is that there is no specifics. What exactly is the fight against corruption being done, where is the growth of the economy, why did Putin give instructions to privatize the state? a stake in Rosneft, why nothing is done in the field of education, why we have entered the WTO, why there is no luxury tax, why every law on preventing bribery and embezzlement among officials has huge holes that they shamelessly use, why no measures have been taken to the officials who rewrote all the property to their wives, divorced them, why Serdyukov, Medvedev and Chubais are not sitting, why the bank has not been nationalized yet, why they are investing money in advance projects, why Pu facilitated the entrance in a moment rants? Here are the important questions, the rest are minor and arising from these, Pu did not answer one of them on a straight line, can you try to answer? Praising Pu is becoming more and more difficult, simply because he has, consciously or not) made a huge amount of mistakes. Yes, living in financial terms has become a little better, but it’s only in cities, but in villages it’s getting worse and worse, and the decline started in 91, and it continues, people are dumb, medicine is deteriorating, the quality of goods is falling, and the price rises several times faster than inflation, the crime situation is still at the same bad level and is increasing, there is an acute problem with illegal migrants, corruption as everywhere was, so it remained everywhere, wild loan rates and not only for the people, but also for business, which generally should almost not to take 0%, as they invest money in the piggy bank of the country, no large enterprises are openly, all small things (such pig farms in America are opened by ordinary farmers, and we only have the rich can do this) the question arises, what does PU do all day? Does it sunbathe in the sun? And no one “squeals” at you like a jackal, we just need specifics, that's all, but it cannot be, because on all the issues I have listed, nothing is done, as a result, we get a fleeting illusion of growth and with it we will select our natural resources also driven into the WTO-shnuyu bondage.
    3. Hleb
      Hleb 21 May 2013 06: 04 New
      +1
      I didn’t go to the site for a long time and therefore I don’t quite understand the whole situation. What kind of wars are going on here ... but judging by the fact that as a result of a normal conversation, a person comes to the conclusion:
      this D Artagnan, in a fit of controversy, began to pass on personality and throw a suspension on the fan
      and some, especially the moderators, consider this to be normal .. nothing surprises me
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay 21 May 2013 09: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Gleb
      I didn’t go to the site for a long time and therefore I don’t quite understand the whole situation.

      Yes, everything is very simple, people who dare to criticize flaws are written down as enemies of the motherland!
      Showed low insults at such
      of people!
  • Apollo
    Apollo 20 May 2013 13: 02 New
    +6
    Quote: Gleb
    but he is local


    but in your opinion, I’m a stranger, famously, as long as we divide into friends and foes,not see us renewed Union as your ears !!!
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 11: 56 New
    +3
    Quote: Egoza
    In the meantime, really "about nothing."

    How about nothing? The author briefly makes it clear to those who constantly whine and spread panic rumors that everything is lost, everything is so bad and gives links on the topic.
    I will add one more http://www.sdelanounas.ru/
    1. Armata
      Armata 20 May 2013 12: 38 New
      +7
      Quote: Anti
      How about nothing? The author briefly makes it clear to those who constantly whine and spread panic rumors that everything is lost, everything is so bad and gives links on the topic.
      Briefly make it clear to those who are constantly yelling URY. The patriot is not the one who wears cowards in the lap of the flag, and not the one who says "the government said that we are sheep, it means URY", A true patriot is the one who sees the minuses, worries about the country and tries to show them so that everyone understands and sees. And one must operate with facts, and not stupidly with extracts like oneself. Briefly and clearly what they want to tell you?
      1. Anti
        Anti 20 May 2013 13: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Mechanic
        Briefly make it clear to those who are constantly yelling URY. The patriot is not the one who wears cowards in the lap of the flag, and not the one who says "the government said that we are sheep, it means URY", A true patriot is the one who sees the minuses, worries about the country and tries to show them so that everyone understands and sees. And one must operate with facts, and not stupidly with extracts like oneself. Briefly and clearly what they want to tell you?

        1. Why immediately URAKALA? Why do not I have the right to rejoice at the achievements of the country? Why immediately stigma "Urya!"
        2. When did the government tell you this?
        3. Patriot patriot discord a lot of their currents.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 20 May 2013 13: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: Anti
          Why do not I have the right to rejoice at the achievements of the country?


          Yes, no one here Oleg forbids you and cannot forbid you to rejoice, the question is different, please give me at least one of your comments criticizing the government and with reference, without fail, of course, if they exist.
          1. Anti
            Anti 20 May 2013 13: 36 New
            +5
            Quote: Apollon
            please provide me at least one of your comments criticizing the government and with a link


            Please, I am not satisfied with the Government, it’s time to take off the white gloves, it’s time to get the little hands dirty, those who build and live in the way. Will such criticism work?
        2. Armata
          Armata 20 May 2013 13: 31 New
          +5
          Quote: Anti
          . Why immediately URAKALA? Why do not I have the right to rejoice at the achievements of the country? Why immediately stigma "Urya!"
          The answer lies in the second question. And I will ask a counter question. Why rejoice?
          Quote: Anti
          When did the government tell you this?
          I understand what the rule of law speaks for the whole country, and by virtue of age and experience I can probably tell lies from the truth.
          Quote: Anti
          .Patriot patriot discord a lot of their currents.
          Well, this is just rubbish. Specific question. How many of these currents? Personally, I know 2. Patriot and pseudo-patriot.
          1. Anti
            Anti 20 May 2013 13: 40 New
            +2
            Quote: Mechanic
            Well, this is just rubbish. Specific question. How many of these currents? Personally, I know 2. Patriot and pseudo-patriot.


            1) Tribal patriotism - the tribe is called the fatherland. Historically, the first type of patriotism that appeared in those days when society was still attached not to the territory, but to its personnel. With the change of demosocial organisms (tribes) to geosocial (countries), the concept has lost relevance in most societies. More details about this process can be found in the already named book by Yu.I. Semenova "Philosophy of History".
            2) Regional patriotism - the concept of patriotism applies to a specific region. Appeared simultaneously with the advent of the geosocioor. A typical example is the policy patriotism of the ancient Greeks, which existed even after the unification of policies under one state, where it was opposed to state (imperial) patriotism.
            3) State patriotism, the object of which is the state, in relation to which members of society identify themselves as subjects. The most common in ancient times, before the formation of nations.
            4) Civil patriotism - the object of patriotism is primarily the people inhabiting the country (citizens). In essence, such patriotism is a more modern version of tribal, because the object of self-identification of the members of society is again directly the society itself, and not some of its components. "A patriot is a person serving the motherland, and the homeland is primarily a people" (N.G. Chernyshevsky). The constituents of the society are individuals, i.e. they realize that they are no longer citizens, but citizens. Appears simultaneously with the so-called. civil society in the era of bourgeois revolutions.
            5) National patriotism - a kind of patriotism that appeared at about the same time as civilian. Its difference from the latter is that the object here is not directly public interests, but the national culture that expresses them. The word is synonymous with the word "nationalism".
            6) Class patriotism - here class consciousness is added to ordinary patriotism. “In a class society, the content of P. becomes class, for each class expresses its attitude to the fatherland through its specific interests” (Big Soviet Encyclopedia).
            7) Corporate patriotism - the concept of patriotism applies to any organization that, accordingly, presumably expresses the interests of society. It can be in relation to the party, the state (by officials) and other organizations.
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 13: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Anti
              Anti


              1)...2)..3)..4)..5)..6)..7)...
              painted, well, I can, another thing is interesting, you write like an article was written not by Valery but you are Oleg, I wonder why he and not you should go out and answer the questions, you must admit, it’s not you who wrote the article, but maybe you ?! laughing

              or together winked co-authored laughing
            2. Anti
              Anti 20 May 2013 13: 58 New
              +1
              Apollo if you wrote this article, I would support you, do not hesitate.
              I was taught as a child to support one, if a bunch of him, especially if he is right.
            3. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Anti
              Apollo


              one more minus, you can pick a person with a nickname. Well, I’m not friends or bro. You’ve made a mistake. Do not think that I don’t understand anything, we’re thinking. laughingPlease contact me correctly, otherwise I can upset you.
            4. Anti
              Anti 20 May 2013 14: 05 New
              +2
              What do you prefer to read your nickname in Latin? requestahh sorry my jamb repeatYou see a joke where it doesn’t exist. I can’t even ask for it directly and as friends to you. Lower your self-esteem.
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            6. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 08 New
              +2
              Quote: Anti
              What do you prefer to read your nickname in Latin?



              possible with the Cyrillic alphabet, but always with the letter "n" laughing
            7. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 19 New
              +3


              Your strategy and tactics are clear to me.
              The strategy is to return at any cost, once acquired and lost rating.
              Ways to achieve the goal:
              1. Arrange srach on the forum and thereby draw attention to yourself from other visitors.
              2. To engage in a pointless dispute with the moderators, again in order to "show" and at the same time try to "prove" to everyone they say how cool I am.

              Aren't you tired? You have to live in the present and the future.
            8. Anti
              Anti 20 May 2013 14: 24 New
              -2
              Quote: Apollon
              Your strategy and tactics are clear to me.
              The strategy is to return at any cost, once acquired and lost rating.
              Ways to achieve the goal:
              1. Arrange srach on the forum and thereby draw attention to yourself from other visitors.
              2. To engage in a pointless dispute with the moderators, again in order to "show" and at the same time try to "prove" to everyone they say how cool I am.

              Aren't you tired? You have to live in the present and the future.


              If the forum agrees with Apollo, then please express your attitude + -
            9. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Anti
              If the forum saglasen с Apollo, then please express your attitude + -



              You see, Oleg, I was right, your strategy and tactics crawled out. wassat
              You, first, write the words highlighted by me correctly. laughing

              In one sentence and so many mistakes winked
            10. Anti
              Anti 20 May 2013 14: 37 New
              +1
              Quote: Apollon
              You see, Oleg, I was right. Your strategy and tactics crawled out.

              well strategist, yeah exposed my tactics recourse
          2. Anti
            Anti 20 May 2013 22: 13 New
            +1
            Apollon, it seems I lost, I'll have to dump hi
            but at the expense of tactics you pierced smile
          3. Apollo
            Apollo 20 May 2013 22: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Anti
            will have to dump


            good night hi

            about tactics then we’ll mess up laughing
  • Apollo
    Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 25 New
    +2
    Quote: Anti
    You see a joke where it doesn’t exist. I can directly and in friendship not ask for you


    I prefer to communicate on the topic indicated on the branch and do not seek to switch to interpersonal relationships, unlike you.
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 14: 30 New
    +3
    Have you switched to them?
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 15: 08 New
    +3
    We must live in the present and the future.


    There is no present in life, there is only the past and the future, and without the past there is no future.
  • MVS
    MVS 20 May 2013 15: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Anti
    There is no real thing in life

    Are you writing from the past or from the future now?
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 15: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: MVS
    Are you writing from the past or from the future now?

    from the past. what kind of question?
  • MVS
    MVS 20 May 2013 15: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Anti
    from past

    Have you invented a time machine?
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 15: 43 New
    +3
    Quote: MVS
    Have you invented a time machine?

    I am not. Time is a characteristic of any space and is a controlling function in the world. Time, time on earth flows past and future, present flows in parallel with the last two. So I wrote to you from the past.

    Do you understand what you wrote?


    as I understand it, I’ll write what is not clear?
  • MVS
    MVS 20 May 2013 15: 50 New
    0
    Quote: Anti
    I am not. Time is a characteristic of any space and is a controlling function in the world. Time, time on earth flows past and future, present flows in parallel with the last two. So I wrote to you from the past.

    Do you understand what you wrote?
  • MVS
    MVS 20 May 2013 16: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Anti
    as I understand it, I’ll write what is not clear?

    Nothing. Although I am not a philosopher, such high matters are not available to me.
  • esaul
    21 May 2013 05: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Apollon
    Please contact me correctly, otherwise I can upset you.

    Apollo, you better trump the possibilities of the moderator. Look at your comments and sweeping accusations and think about the consequences. What a pose, colleague?
  • Apollo
    Apollo 21 May 2013 10: 02 New
    0
    Quote: esaul
    Apollo, you better trump the possibilities of the moderator. Look at your comments and sweeping accusations and think about the consequences. What a pose, colleague?


    Well, you betrayed that I have never trumped with the capabilities of a moderator and am not going to trump (to use your own language), and what’s most interesting didn’t even occur to me such a thought, but how did it come to you? winked As for the indiscriminate accusations, this technique is just the same for you, and not for me. I noticed one feature of your character, arrogance and unwillingness to even listen to your opponent. Hanging labels is your style that slips in your comments. As for the consequences, but this already smells like a threat and not veiled but open. I will tell you very frankly, if a person threatens, then he goes from words to deeds. Your move, Yesaul.

    afterword, by the way, I, like you too, moderator, unlike you, fulfill all my duties in good faith, which cannot be said about you, you abandoned this duty Esaul.a would be worth remembering and at least occasionally perform their immediate functions.
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 13: 54 New
    +6
    Quote: Anti
    1) Tribal patriotism - the tribe is called the fatherland.

    I know that there are breeding bulls, another invention of modern PR specialists.
    The remaining parts, also from this series, a man who loves his land (region) but does not love the country is not a patriot. You can’t love your hand and don’t love the rest of the body. Either you are a patriot or not, that's all, everything else is empty hi
  • fortunophile
    fortunophile 20 May 2013 13: 56 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    , a man who loves his land (region) but does not like the country, this is not a patriot

    This is a separatist hi But what is the name of a person who periodically yells from a foreign country: "I will tear all for the motherland?" True, we must pay tribute to which country he does not consider to be the homeland hi
  • Armata
    Armata 20 May 2013 14: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: Anti
    Tribal patriotism
    Oh, the exact definition of patriotism for you and Yesaul. GDP is your kind of tribal leader. Well, or according to a modern corporation (the same tribal community under a beautiful sign) laughing
    It’s enough to carry nonsense.
    For all your statements, is there a lot of difference? According to your gradation, a person cannot simultaneously be a patriot of a state, a region (like a region is not part of the state), civil patriotism is generally the same as state (a citizen cannot be a citizen without a state, I also like class patriotism (that is, if a person belongs to another class except the ruling one, it automatically becomes a pseudo-patriot and, accordingly, all other concepts do not suit him)
  • Apollo
    Apollo 20 May 2013 14: 42 New
    +4
    Quote: Anti
    7) Corporate patriotism - the concept of patriotism applies to any organization that, accordingly, presumably expresses the interests of society. It can be in relation to the party, the state (by officials) and other organizations.


    another forgot to mention
    8) idle talk of patriotism.
  • mnbv199
    mnbv199 21 May 2013 06: 36 New
    0
    And I will ask a counter question. Why rejoice?


    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/public/?page=0
  • Igarr
    Igarr 20 May 2013 13: 50 New
    +6
    Wait a minute, Eugene ...
    are you local or not
    if local - show the document.
    Why, if the local is an old-timer, is it just a “cardboard” major general? And not Generalissimo Alpha Hydra?
    .
    Funny even, honestly.
    It is doubly, triple hurt when you see that ".. our land is large and plentiful. But there is no order in it."
    But also .. creative top managers .. I not going to give my Homeland - for management and feeding.
    1. Armata
      Armata 20 May 2013 14: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: Igarr
      Wait a minute, Eugene ...
      are you local or not
      if local - show the document.
      Why, if the local is an old-timer, is it just a “cardboard” major general? And not Generalissimo Alpha Hydra?
      Greetings Igor. Mustache, paws, tail are my documents. And as for the cardboard epaulettes, I don’t even bother, I myself have probably seen how many times, according to my statement, admins wrote me off to the rank and file, asked for no skulls laughing
      Quote: Igarr
      Funny even, honestly.
      It is doubly, triple hurt when you see that ".. our land is large and plentiful. But there is no order in it."
      But also .. creative top managers .. I'm not going to give my homeland - for management and feeding.
      Duck also offends me. Therefore, I criticize when I see that they slip nonsense to us as an achievement. I’m on a drum at the rulers of power, it’s a shame for my Motherland and I want to learn how to think and analyze, and not just shout URA, we are the most in the know.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 14: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: Mechanic
        requested the skull was not given

        He wanted skulls, he must have a bite then he won’t want horseradish. laughing
        1. Armata
          Armata 20 May 2013 14: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          He wanted skulls, he must have a bite then he won’t want horseradish.
          I don’t drink now. And shoulder straps with skulls are very suitable for the color of the costume. laughing
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 15: 20 New
          +4
          Quote: Mechanic
          . And shoulder straps with skulls are very suitable for the color of the costume

          I'm afraid to think about your requests and desires if your wife buys a blue suit for you wassat what color are your shoulder straps from Smirnov wink I’ll personally ask that he personally give such to you as an exception, only I’m afraid people won’t understand laughing
        3. Armata
          Armata 20 May 2013 15: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I hope to think about your requests and desires if your wife buys a blue suit for you
          she is not an enemy to herself. Tell me about the pink tie and shirt.
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 16: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: Mechanic
          Tell me about the pink tie and shirt.

          You are talking about them, but I’d better stand modestly aside wink
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  • Apollo
    Apollo 20 May 2013 12: 51 New
    +4
    Quote: Anti
    How about nothing? The author briefly makes it clear to those


    To whom is it to whom ??? winked
    this is not the case when brevity is considered the sister of talent. laughing
    why Dmitry Medvedev did not take the floor (04: 23) ???
    There are many contradictions, there is criticism of the government, but there are no organizational conclusions. Why
    Why the guilty are not punished. winked
    Why, an assessment to the government, was given at the (04: 27) closed part of the meeting ??? Questions to you laughing and to be more precise, Yesaulu.

    1. Anti
      Anti 20 May 2013 13: 20 New
      -1
      Apollo, once British intelligence with German, actively worked against the top leadership and command of the USSR. Threw kompru and so on.
      You may find this ridiculous, but think about it.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 13: 37 New
        +5
        Quote: Anti
        Apollo, once British intelligence with German, actively worked against the top leadership and command of the USSR.

        And I realized that it means Serdyukov’s meritor of the British intelligence and everyone else is also meritorious, and the fact that Putin appoints them to the posts is the cunning move of the CIA wassat
      2. Apollo
        Apollo 20 May 2013 13: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Anti
        You will find it ridiculous, but think about it


        I have the flag of Azerbaijan, not German, like yours and the Bundesnachrichtendienst, the BND’s foreign intelligence service does not work. laughing

        And yet, if you are so sick for the country, why do not you finally come and put things in order, but ....?! laughing
        1. Anti
          Anti 20 May 2013 13: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Apollon
          I have a flag of Azerbaijan


          what are you doing on this site, what are you worried about, what are you doing here? request

          I’ll be rooting for her on Mars, it’s in the blood, and you for yours?
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 20 May 2013 13: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: Anti
            what are you doing on this site, what are you worried about, what are you doing here?

            I’ll be rooting for her on Mars, it’s in the blood, and you for yours?


            Russia is rightfully my homeland, but for distorting my nickname on the forum minus, I’m satisfied, but not in this but in your previous post.?! laughing
          2. Armata
            Armata 20 May 2013 22: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Anti
            what are you doing on this site, what are you worried about, what are you doing here?

            I’ll be rooting for her on Mars, it’s in the blood, and you for yours?
            and that we are measured only by patriotism flags? Duck then you are a national, not a patriot.
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          4. Anti
            Anti 21 May 2013 00: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Mechanic
            Then you're nat


            I demand to erase it too (((
  • VAF
    VAF 20 May 2013 14: 43 New
    +6
    Quote: fortuneophile
    Well, there’s even nothing to discuss, an "empty" article


    I absolutely agree, even nothing to discuss ..... "a typical set of words and terms from ... political"!

    QUOTE: ".... where the successes and opportunities of Russia today are very significant and can fully provide Russia with a full-fledged confrontation in all kinds of geopolitical, military and information battles, which in our time have not gone anywhere and also excite our minds."

    So where are these ... "successes" that can provide confrontation ??? recourse
    1. igor67
      igor67 20 May 2013 14: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: vaf
      So where are these ... "successes" that can provide confrontation ???

      Wikipedia reports 93 types of vodka, manufactured in Russia. I don’t remember such a quantity in the Union
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 15: 22 New
        +6
        Quote: igor67
        Wikipedia reports about 93 types of vodka produced in Russia.

        Igor, do not touch vodka. This is Russia's strategic reserve. winked
        1. igor67
          igor67 20 May 2013 15: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: igor67
          Wikipedia reports about 93 types of vodka produced in Russia.

          Igor, do not touch vodka. This is Russia's strategic reserve. winked

          like mine too.
      2. VAF
        VAF 20 May 2013 15: 42 New
        +5
        Quote: igor67
        Wikipedia reports about 93 types of vodka produced in Russia.


        Igor, hello, dear! drinks

        Yeah, achievement, nothing to say request

        But seriously, even here we have only 1 (!!!!) plant in the whole country that produces ethyl alcohol. and everyone else ... it's already .. "recyclers"!

        And here is what they already release ... but it’s not for me, I’m cognac! drinks
        1. Anti
          Anti 20 May 2013 15: 55 New
          -1
          The whole gang on the branch gathered, even the fan, two still missing bully

          but do not you think your komenty ordinary flood?


          But what about the fan at the expense of salominki in the eye?
          1. igor67
            igor67 20 May 2013 16: 06 New
            0
            Quote: Anti
            The whole gang on the branch gathered, even the fan, two still missing bully

            who is it? blame but do not you think your komenty ordinary flood? specifically on the topic do you have something to say
          2. Armata
            Armata 20 May 2013 22: 10 New
            0
            Quote: Anti
            The whole gang on the branch gathered, even the fan, two still missing
            What gang?
      3. Canep
        Canep 20 May 2013 19: 49 New
        +2
        Wikipedia reports about 93 types of vodka produced in Russia. I don’t remember that amount during the Union

        Vodka is a mixture of 60% water and 40% alcohol. Everything that does not fit into such a composition cannot be called vodka in my opinion. That is, by and large, there can only be one type of vodka.
      4. ICT
        ICT 21 May 2013 01: 01 New
        0
        Quote: igor67
        Wikipedia announces 93 types of vodka

        in fact, probably more, just every plant sculpts its own label (or even more than one) you need to compare the volumes
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 20 May 2013 20: 53 New
    +1
    [quote = fortunophile] Yesaul answered with words for words. The word cycle on the forum.
    Totally agree!
    Honestly, who the author did not look at first, but there was a feeling that the article was as if torn, then about one thing, then about the other and did not see the connection!
    1. fortunophile
      fortunophile 20 May 2013 20: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Yarbay
      Honestly, who the author did not look at first, but there was a feeling that the article was as if torn, then about one thing, then about the other and did not see the connection!

      Yes, some kind of mosaic, moreover, unreasoned and gray, in general, an article, as in a song: "I blinded him from what was ..."
  • Belogor
    Belogor 20 May 2013 06: 08 New
    +5
    Positive feedback from Poles about Russia is very rare, almost nonsense. This topic (attitude towards homosexual marriage) is one of the very few where the positions of the people of Poland and Russia are similar.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 20 May 2013 06: 11 New
    +2
    But just because of employment, I still can’t take it completely. I will try.

    Not what, not what - wait!
    Neither what nor what - there will be an hour!


    Hello to everyone. hi
  • treskoed
    treskoed 20 May 2013 06: 36 New
    +3
    but how to do without painful bites of opponents ...

    And loved ones bite !!!
  • sergo0000
    sergo0000 20 May 2013 06: 44 New
    +3
    A little emotional but right. We are waiting for the selection. good
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 20 May 2013 06: 46 New
    +5
    but how to do without painful bites of opponents ...

    This is a fact, you cannot do without them. But you need to defend your idea and thought.
    1. taseka
      taseka 20 May 2013 10: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: aszzz888
      This is a fact, you cannot do without them. But you need to defend your idea and thought.

      I agree! Sometimes you visually "see" opponents with the CIA, WORK FOR AFRAID!
  • mogus
    mogus 20 May 2013 07: 09 New
    +4
    there is also Internet resistance www.ipolk.ru (upload videos, articles exposing the "opposition" and other nasty things). Quite an interesting news portal "question" (from the many news you can choose interesting).
    IMHO.
  • smershspy
    smershspy 20 May 2013 09: 16 New
    +3
    Quote: Canep
    And if you think a little, then the comments about the complete collapse of the defense industry complex will seem ridiculous to you. For all that, I do not deny that much has been lost and even lost, but the one who walks will take the road.
    I agree while those people who were engaged in development under the USSR are not alive, everything is lost, factories and factories are all secondary, in the first place are the designers and their teams. The prestige of engineering professions is now, thank God, is rising.

    I completely agree! I have the honor!
  • Armata
    Armata 20 May 2013 09: 34 New
    +2
    The meaning of the collection? Those who want to can read what they say on the forums abroad. Moreover, the majority is against GDP. Well, Yesaulu is the only objectivity alien. The main goal of hurray gdp, the rest is secondary. Pulling 1-3% over from Western forums is not a problem, imagine an objective picture, all + and- weighted. Weak?
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 20 May 2013 17: 54 New
      +6
      Greetings Eugene!
      Quote: Mechanic
      Those who want to can read what they say on the forums abroad. Moreover, the majority is against GDP.

      Let’s say, sometimes there’s no time even to look at your favorite site, and you say "who wants to" belay And who can’t !?
      Yes, and I admit I speak English not to the extent that I also fumble on English-language forums. Apparently you have enough work to do and sit on the Internet for days, but this does not mean that everyone on the site is such unoccupied people. And I’m very interesting that besides
      Quote: Mechanic
      Moreover, the majority is against GDP.
      (which in general is not surprising for brainwashed) request foreign citizens also write with all their heart and soul. I know that you also speak English well, and maybe in other languages, and I would love to read your articles! But you do not post it.
      1. Armata
        Armata 20 May 2013 22: 16 New
        -1
        Quote: sergo0000
        . Apparently you have enough work for him to sit on the Internet for days, but this does not mean that everyone on the site is such unoccupied people. And I’m very interesting to say that besides
        Come in PM and see how much chat I visit the site. Everything is visible by comments.
  • Middle-brother
    Middle-brother 20 May 2013 09: 52 New
    +6
    The president’s foreign policy evokes only positive emotions. But the inside ...
    For all that, I do not deny that much has been lost and even lost, but the one who walks will take the road.

    Long walk. And somewhere in the wrong place.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 09: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Middle Brother

      Long walk. And somewhere in the wrong place.

      And the most unclear, where does it go and whether we will come laughing
      1. Anti
        Anti 20 May 2013 11: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the most unclear, where does it go and whether we will come laughing


        Do you need ramans with an apronophile to be unhappy? Somehow, together you boasted of your well-being, cars, worth a few lemons, motorcycles, and high-paying work. Where else to lead you, what other way DO YOU NEED? request
        1. fortunophile
          fortunophile 20 May 2013 11: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Anti
          Do you need ramans with an apronophile to be unhappy?

          I am satisfied with my life, I did not like the article of the esaul, because of nothing.
          Quote: Anti
          Somehow, together, you boasted of your well-being, cars, a few lemons worth, motorcycles, and a high-paying job.

          Well, yes, Romanov and I are sitting at neighboring computers, and therefore we can make joint statements, we only work on different shifts, he starts in the early morning, and I’ll “wake up” until late at night laughing
          Quote: Anti
          Where else to lead you, what other way DO YOU NEED?

          I myself got used to walking and I know where to go, the well-being of the family, the education and upbringing of children ... Let them not help me, but I would like not to interfere repeat

          In general, Anti envy is a bad feeling, and of you it pret ...
          1. Anti
            Anti 20 May 2013 12: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: fortuneophile
            In general, Anti envy is a bad feeling, but from you it is so rushing.


            Can you justify what and what is so rushing?
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 11: 12 New
          +7
          Quote: Anti
          Somehow, together you boasted about your well-being, cars, worth a few lemons, motorbikes, work well paid

          My car costs 650 oblique, what millions of Olezh? The motorcycle is 92 years old and now needs to be repaired. And work, and who does not let you earn a patriot you are my German.
          With regards to where to go, well, at least start by ensuring that the law in the country is equal for everyone. Dazzled with immunity, set up flashing lights and cheers, support us.
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    2. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd 20 May 2013 13: 36 New
      0
      I completely agree with you, GDP - Ivan Susanin in a good concept!
  • baltika-18
    baltika-18 20 May 2013 10: 11 New
    +7
    Article minus due to inconsistency of the name of the information contained in the article.
    If the article was titled “Putin, Gays and Technological Leverage” would put a plus.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 10: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: baltika-18
      "Putin, homosexuals and technological leverage"
      wassat wassat wassat
      Figassey, you came up with a name laughing
      1. Canep
        Canep 20 May 2013 10: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: baltika-18
        "Putin, homosexuals and technological leverage"

        Maybe our people combine incompatible. “Stirred the shed, honey, shit and bees,” as the teacher at TSP said. +
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 20 May 2013 13: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Figassey, you came up with a name

        But because, Sanya, the thing is ....
        "And in our apartment there is gas" continued "And you?"
        The answer is "We have a gas mask."
  • SPACE
    SPACE 20 May 2013 12: 09 New
    +3
    "And in our apartment there is gas / Putin ...! And you ...? Do you want to guess? In the government, all thieves and traitors, the army, education, everything, everything, everything has been plundered and destroyed, there are no prospects, there is darkness ahead .. And then what? Do you like to engage in sadomasochism ?, but this, as well as "screaming your brains", is akin to non-traditional orientation. Gentlemen, will you decide who you are? You are sound critics or banal imposters, otherwise it's sad to watch how normal people gradually turn into hamsters , metamorphoses, and the article is a plus!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 13: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: SPACE
      In the government, all thieves and traitors, the army, education, everything, everything, everything was plundered and destroyed, there are no prospects, there is darkness ahead ..

      Ohhh, yes, you are tying to sit on Navalny’s site, and you can absolutely believe in it
      Quote: SPACE
      You are sound critics or banal bastards

      There is a very fine line here, and every critic of a post can put it this way and that. Because everyone needs to think with their brains and have their own opinion hi
      1. SPACE
        SPACE 20 May 2013 17: 17 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ohhh, yes, you are tying to sit on Navalny’s site, and you can absolutely believe in it

        You also noticed that many komenty strongly resemble the slogans of the bulk. And I remember many supported Putin, but what happened? Suddenly, Serdyuk, and where did everything go? In general, if at least a millimeter is assumed that Putin is a thief, then you should immediately admit that he handed over the country and she has no future. I don’t believe in it and I, for some reason, am sincerely sorry for people who think differently ... Unless this is your game to ring Putin ... This is MY opinion. hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 20 May 2013 18: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: SPACE
          And remember, many supported Putin, but what happened?

          Yes, I remember, I supported him myself, but then oops Serdyukov remained in the cabinet belay We are not talking about Putin now, but about the actions of his subordinates and the inaction of the authorities, although Putin could decide everything quickly. Could remove immunity, why not? If officials, deputies, lawyers and almost behaved like people, then there would be no questions. Just a mess in the country, which began back in the late 80s and continues to this day. It’s clear that 10 years ago we lived worse financially, there are pluses and it is useless to deny it, BUT people are tired of waiting for a quarter of a century to come to order in the country. These untouchables will end, that’s where it comes from. the opposition.
          Quote: SPACE
          In general, if at least a millimeter is assumed that Putin is a thief, then you should immediately admit that he handed over the country and she has no future.

          But does anyone say that?
          Quote: SPACE
          If only this is not your bell to Putin ..

          But I don’t decide anything from calling Putin, I’m not deciding anything in this country now, all I can do is go to the polls. Well, leave another comment hi
          1. SPACE
            SPACE 20 May 2013 20: 27 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            We are not talking about Putin now, but about the actions of his subordinates and the inaction of the authorities, although Putin could decide everything quickly. Could remove immunity, why not?

            To find out and get to the bottom of the truth of what is happening is this thing. I think up there in the AUTHORITIES not everything is so simple and is not within the line of sight, perhaps the truth, somewhere around the corner, "such a kitchen is not for many teeth." I believe that there are two forces in Russia, the Yeltsin liberal-business clan and the security forces with the military-industrial complex, and in the middle, gas and the budget, and the current government is a compromise between these two forces. The face of the first is Medvedev, the puppet, the second is headed by Putin, the first have the support and money of the West, Putin needs to rely only on domestic resources, including human support ... The situation is extremely unstable, and, apparently, there are contradictions. But both of them are vulnerable alone, and this is an incomprehensible policy of compromise ... As for Serdyukov, the authorities give priority not to smart, but to devotees ... Putin’s main task is to create his own completely independent system that can work and “change power” without changing course, which is very difficult and extremely expensive, which is what Glorious Defense Services did. What is more important? The most powerful army, which could not even prevent the collapse of the USSR and the arrival of internal enemies in 91, or a powerful group of financially independent people, “patriots” of Russia, who can control the transfer of power. I think not everything “there” can be done and frankly, remember Cassandra, in general, the answer is, you need to look somewhere in this area.
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            But does anyone say that?

            No matter who. But the assumption itself is ridiculous that the President, having the power of the most powerful country, is banal to trick wallets ... laughing
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And to me that from a call to Putin

            Under the bell, I assumed: What are you and not only criticizing Putin and his actions in order to create a certain public opinion that will signal Putin to “call” that he has a red line. Which is basically true.
  • My address
    My address 20 May 2013 14: 14 New
    +4
    I do not understand what the article. About future articles?
    Appeal "colleagues" to all, and therefore to strangers, gives familiarity.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 20 May 2013 14: 33 New
      +2
      From the lips of an older, well-deserved comrade, it seems, no. And am I wrong?
      1. My address
        My address 20 May 2013 15: 33 New
        +5
        Sorry.
        Here I am the so-called "production commander." The age of fifty. In submission a little less than a thousand. How do I know that an “esaul” is my equal or friend in my views on life?
        For information - to the workers I respect, I first go to greet my hand. Sneaky soul, but rather liberal to good workers (I ask you not to consider a liberal like Gaidar-Chubais-Ponomarev). More for information. I don’t pity in the situation, I just want to understand that it’s far from a boy. And further. It has long been believed that the higher the position, the harder it is to perform it normally. Harder in terms of responsibility for people.

        All the best.
        1. VAF
          VAF 20 May 2013 15: 50 New
          +5
          Quote: My address
          I’m not flattering myself, I just want to understand that I’m far from a boy. And further. I have long believed that the higher the position, the harder it is for the normal to fulfill it.


          Yes, and all komentu, and not just a quote .. only ++++++ !!! good drinks soldier
          1. My address
            My address 20 May 2013 16: 33 New
            0
            Sergei, please see the comment below, on the Baltic-18.
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 20 May 2013 15: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: My address
          Here I am the so-called "production commander

          Accept the plus, colleague. Since I am a former production commander, currently an entrepreneur, and under the age of fifty. drinks
          1. My address
            My address 20 May 2013 16: 43 New
            +4
            What is bad, now the position is considered as a reward, i.e. wear it and baldet. I was lucky that the teachers at work were hammering out that the more rights and duties (position), the higher the DB. liability, incl. internal, self-criticism. Of course, a boss is not completely good; he often has to force people to do things that they don’t like. But if he is a man, then 95% of subordinates for a glass of tea curse at him, but they admit that if he forces and punishes, then on business, without sadism.

            Regards, good luck, success, good.
        3. pensioner
          pensioner 21 May 2013 08: 30 New
          0
          In fact, I’m referring to the very form of the "colleague" appeal. Whatever to you. In the sense that such an appeal is not identical to familiarity. Absolutely did not want to offend.
    2. esaul
      20 May 2013 20: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: My address
      I did not understand what the article was about. About future articles

      Another answer to the question of the fortunophile in the previous discussion "Do you want songs ..." and his disbelief that the Poles respect Putin. It's amazing how such an intelligent person like you did not notice this ...
  • d_trader
    d_trader 20 May 2013 16: 06 New
    +1
    There is great analytics at the Counter Post, I go there every day. It would be nice to have their articles appear here, to discuss.
  • Anti
    Anti 20 May 2013 17: 39 New
    +3
    I may be mistaken. But it seems to me a message to the opponents of Esaul, in the title of his article, and I expect S. Mikhalkov in this rhyme.


    Who was sitting on the bench,
    Who looked at the street,
    Tolya was singing,
    Boris was silent,
    Nikolai shook his foot.

    It was evening,
    There was nothing to do.

    Galka sat on the fence,
    The cat climbed into the attic.
    Then he told the boys Borya
    Just:
    - And I have a nail in my pocket!
    And you?
    - And we have a guest today!
    And you?
    - And we have a cat today
    I gave birth to kittens yesterday.
    Kittens have grown a little,
    And they do not want to eat from a saucer!

    "And we have gas in our apartment!"
    And you?

    - And we have running water!
    That's it!

    - And from our window
    Red Square is visible!
    And from your window
    Only a little street.

    "We walked along Neglinnaya Street,
    We went to the boulevard,
    We bought a blue-blue
    A greenish red ball!

    - And our fire went out -
    This time!
    The truck brought firewood -
    These are two!
    And fourthly - our mother
    Leaves for flight,
    Because our mother
    It's called a pilot!

    Vesya replied with a ladder:
    "Is your mother a pilot?"
    What's wrong with that?
    Here Kolya, for example,
    Mom is a policeman!
    And Tolya and Vera
    Both mothers are engineers!
    And Lyova's mother is a cook!
    Mom-pilot?
    What's wrong with that?

    - All important, - said Nata, -
    Mom is a driver,
    Because before the Hook
    Mom drives two trailers.

    And Nina asked quietly:
    - Is it bad to be a dressmaker?
    Who sews the cowards to the boys?
    Well, of course, not a pilot!

    The pilot drives planes -
    It is very good!

    The cook makes compotes -
    It is also good.

    The doctor heals us from measles,
    There is a teacher at school.

    Moms are different,
    Moms are different.

    It was evening,
    There was nothing to argue about.
    1. fortunophile
      fortunophile 20 May 2013 17: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Anti
      I may be wrong. But it seems to me a message to the opponents of Esaul, in the title of his article and I suppose S. Mikhalkov in this rhyme

      After this comment, I realized why you can feel gratitude to the esaul, thank you very much for not putting out the line "I am writing to you, why more ..." winked
      1. Anti
        Anti 20 May 2013 17: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: fortuneophile
        Quote: Anti
        I may be wrong. But it seems to me a message to the opponents of Esaul, in the title of his article and I suppose S. Mikhalkov in this rhyme

        After this comment, I realized why you can feel gratitude to the esaul, thank you very much for not putting out the line "I am writing to you, why more ..." winked

        Try to read between the lines without irony, you filled out a thread, essentially disrupted the discussion of the article, afraid of you, understand that?
        1. fortunophile
          fortunophile 20 May 2013 18: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Anti
          you filled out the thread, essentially disrupted the discussion of the article

          Reread my and my comments and see who is discussing the article, and who is looking for a squabble and scandal winked
          Quote: Anti
          afraid of you, understand that?

          I don’t understand why to be afraid of me? You can’t virtually hit, I behave appropriately, for all the time that I haven’t set a minus to other forum users except for you, I’ve only distributed “+” request
          Do not give out your fear for the "all-forum", and forum users here are adequate and not timid. I have such an opinion.
          1. Anti
            Anti 20 May 2013 18: 35 New
            +3
            I agree, I, too, seemingly did not lag behind, but if they see how they “lower” it is unlikely that anyone will leave a comment, if not a “careerist” they see behind whom the strength of more than one you mean. Sorry. since that.
            1. Apollo
              Apollo 20 May 2013 19: 26 New
              +1
              Quote: Anti
              I, too, seemed to keep up


              just for the fact that you fended off blows, albeit awkwardly, pluses Oleg, but Valery for avoiding communication, a virtual minus.
              1. fortunophile
                fortunophile 20 May 2013 19: 31 New
                +4
                Quote: Apollon
                but Valery for avoiding communication, a virtual minus.

                This is you in vain! Yesaul repeatedly reported earlier that he is currently very busy at work, so I am more than sure that his absence on the site at the time of discussion of his article is connected with work or other objective reasons, and not fear (unwillingness) to oppose. hi
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 20 May 2013 19: 42 New
                  +2
                  Quote: fortuneophile
                  Yesaul repeatedly reported earlier that he is currently very busy at work, so I’m more than sure that his absence on the site at the time of discussion of his article is connected with work or other objective reasons, and not fear (unwillingness) to oppose


                  Perhaps here I don’t agree with you, post the article ........ but no, in my opinion, I probably sat and sits, behind the monitor and carefully monitors who wrote what. Then, naturally, another article but this time It is a future article that will be devoted to opportunists, I apologize to my opponents. The only thing I can’t guess is the name of a future article. So I will have no doubts about it. More or less knowing Yesaul, I’m sure that the attack against today's article will not leave him unanswered .

                  PS Here the author himself appeared, well, what I wrote.
                  1. fortunophile
                    fortunophile 20 May 2013 19: 48 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Apollon
                    but no, in my opinion, he probably sat and sits behind the monitor and carefully monitors who wrote what.

                    No, here you are wrong in my opinion, but this is only purely my opinion. he is not from the "quiet" hi
                    Quote: Apollon
                    I am sure that the attack against today's article, he will not leave unanswered.

                    And here you are 100% right good , I would have the opportunity to put 100+ even though I understand that they don’t really "warm your soul" hi
                  2. esaul
                    20 May 2013 20: 30 New
                    0
                    Quote: Apollon
                    ........ but no, in my opinion, probably sat and sits, behind the monitor and carefully monitors who wrote what.

                    I feel sorry for you, Apollo ... The poor in Russia have always been spared.
                    1. fortunophile
                      fortunophile 20 May 2013 20: 33 New
                      +1
                      Quote: esaul
                      The poor in Russia have always been spared.

                      You inadequately insult a person! If you have any arguments, give, and shout: "Himself such a", as it is unworthy of an adult fool When laying out an article for public discussion, you need to be prepared for criticism, did you expect that they would pour oil on you here? People have different opinions, in addition, the "opus" is clearly damp, uninformative and controversial ...
                      1. Apollo
                        Apollo 20 May 2013 20: 52 New
                        -2
                        Quote: fortuneophile
                        You inadequately insult a person!


                        now Valery himself has personally proved who is trying to arrange an Internet srach and coven, expressed in his own language.
                    2. Apollo
                      Apollo 20 May 2013 20: 43 New
                      +1
                      Quote: esaul
                      I feel sorry for you, Apollo ... The poor in Russia have always been spared.


                      minus for this expression, it doesn’t color you and respect will not add to you, you don’t need to feel sorry for me, I will take care of myself somehow, and you about myself !!! My quote is no more than an assumption. Do not take my words out of the written context .If you do not delve into, then this is not my problem and not my question.

                      And I am with you, always emphasized on you, for the future, to take into account my request. Only for you, and for you can only with your subordinates, if you certainly have them.
                2. esaul
                  20 May 2013 20: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: fortuneophile
                  This is you in vain! Yesaul repeatedly reported earlier that he is currently very busy at work, so I am more than sure that his absence on the site at the time of discussion of his article is connected with work or other objective reasons, and not fear (unwillingness) to oppose.

                  Poisonous, with malice, but - the truth is! Thank you for understanding!
                  1. fortunophile
                    fortunophile 20 May 2013 20: 37 New
                    +2
                    Quote: esaul
                    Poisonous, with malice, but - the truth is

                    This is a clinic! Find poison and malice in my comment. I'm in shock request
              2. esaul
                20 May 2013 20: 22 New
                +2
                Quote: Apollon
                but Valery for avoiding communication, a virtual minus.

                Apollo, hi. Why hasn’t the idea to your mind yet that I still have work and obligations? As Abdulov said in the movie "The Most Charming and Attractive" - ​​"Well, we don’t have pineapple ...!" So - well, I don’t have the opportunity to knock on the clave day and night - I work. request
                1. Apollo
                  Apollo 20 May 2013 20: 34 New
                  0
                  Quote: esaul
                  Apollo, hi. Why hasn’t the idea to your mind yet that I still have work and obligations? As Abdulov said in the movie "The Most Charming and Attractive" - ​​"Well, we don’t have pineapple ...!" So - well, I don’t have the opportunity to knock on the clave day and night - I work.


                  Good evening, Valery! hi I will be brief.
                  1. Having prepared the article and taking into account the great interest in your person and article, you probably didn’t know for certain that they would oppose you. Knowing this, you nevertheless posted the article. Although you could transfer the placement of the article to another, any day convenient for you. Was this done intentionally or what ?!
                  2. By the way, I also work, but nevertheless, because of your article, I sacrificed my working day. So to say, I sacrificed it. laughing
                  1. esaul
                    21 May 2013 06: 10 New
                    0
                    Quote: Apollon
                    Good evening, Valery!

                    Good morning apollo hi
                    Your attempts to look logically and consistently reflecting are ridiculous and I'm not interested in talking to you. So you flatter yourself too much, considering that I personally am interested in your “opposition”. You have a pathological passion to provoke someone to a verbal skirmish vilely collapse in an osprey, indiscriminately hang accusations on a person, without thinking about the evidence and at the same time hypocritically posing as innocent sheep. Correctly noticed ANTI - Asian cunning and outright lies. This is your hobby. You and live with it, "nice person" laughing
                    1. Apollo
                      Apollo 21 May 2013 10: 24 New
                      0
                      Quote: esaul
                      Good morning apollo
                      Your attempts to look logically and consistently reflecting are ridiculous and I'm not interested in talking to you. So you flatter yourself too much, considering that I personally am interested in your “opposition”. You have a pathological passion to provoke someone to a verbal skirmish vilely collapse in an osprey, indiscriminately hang accusations on a person, without thinking about the evidence and at the same time hypocritically posing as innocent sheep. Correctly noticed ANTI - Asian cunning and outright lies. This is your hobby. You and live with it, "nice person


                      Good morning Esaul. hi Although I greet you (I respect decency) I have no particular desire. I expected, if not apologize, at least to understand (realize) that you tried to insult me ​​in the evening. This is your expression in Russia the poor are sorry.and your phrase to the WAF mine ... is generally prohibitive. Further, as I understand it, you are a psychologist or all the same a political worker. I want to draw your attention to the fact that a political worker, like a diplomat, should be extremely correct in expressions, you should not be scattered with phrases. As for your reference to Oleg’s quote, a good Russian proverb came to my mind, it’s just in place, tell me who your friend is and who you are. You stand and complement each other, just like Siamese twins, in spirit and content . And finally, there is such a parable when a person arguments end, he turns to insults and unsubstantiated accusations. Once again you convinced me how relevant these words are.
  • Best novel
    Best novel 20 May 2013 20: 49 New
    +2
    I again ask the same author: do they pay something for articles on the site? Otherwise, what is the interest in writing in great detail about anything? Although now you begin to understand who is able to come up with such tasks.
    1. fortunophile
      fortunophile 20 May 2013 21: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Roman Best
      Although now you begin to understand who is able to come up with such tasks.

      Task, full fly away !!!
      I could not resist
      100 + 2x = 7x
      100 = 7x-2x
      5x = 100
      x = 20
      Answer: 20 crazy wassat
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