Fleet and Politics. The Circumstances of the Russian Fleet's Deployment to the Mediterranean Sea during the Russo-Turkish War of 1768–1774.

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Fleet and Politics. The Circumstances of the Russian Fleet's Deployment to the Mediterranean Sea during the Russo-Turkish War of 1768–1774.


Before we move on to stories Archipelago expeditions of the Russian fleet, I must offer my deepest apologies to my esteemed readers. I don't understand how this happened, but during the process of publishing previous article, the Russo-Turkish War of 1768–1774 miraculously transformed for me into the Russo-Turkish War of 1768–1744. The comment: "What, BC or something?" was spot on... I can't explain how this happened, even though I, of course, always reread the texts of the articles I publish. Unfortunately, while working on the material, my vision becomes so blurred that I can miss even the most epic gaffe—as happened in this case.

The number of armies at the beginning of the war


So, the war with the Ottoman Porte had begun, but the balance of power could not inspire optimism among the Russian Empire's leadership. The Turks, having assembled their armies, including the Crimean Tatars, could have fielded 350 soldiers, while the Russian armies deployed against the Turks had less than 130. Reinforcing the Russian forces was possible, but somewhat difficult: the Russian Empire was fighting in Poland, and there was also unrest along the Circassian border.

It's clear that the Russian commanders could only roughly estimate the number of troops facing them. The exact size of the Turkish armies was probably unknown even to the Turks themselves. But it was clear that in the war that had begun, the enemy would significantly outnumber us. Therefore, it would be quite a good idea to acquire an army somewhere capable of drawing off at least some of the Ottoman forces. But where to find such an army? There were no states on the political horizon willing to ally with the Russian Empire and wage war against Turkey.

All of this was clear to Count Alexei Grigorievich Orlov, who was in Italy at the time. And so, apparently, he was the first to come up with the idea of ​​solving this problem with the help of the navy, which he immediately wrote to Empress Catherine II about.

The Count's idea was to send the Baltic Fleet to the Mediterranean to attack the Turks there. But, of course, ship crews alone, even with soldiers who could be taken on board, would not be enough to divert large Ottoman forces. Orlov understood this perfectly well and proposed inciting an uprising among the Christian peoples, Greeks, and Montenegrins: none of them were passionately attached to the Ottomans and were ready to revolt if they received support from Russia. From these people, if not an army, then at least large detachments could be formed. These detachments, while certainly far inferior to regular Russian troops, were quite comparable in combat effectiveness to some provincial Turkish garrisons. And with sufficient numbers and activity, such detachments could draw away significant Ottoman forces.

At first glance, Count Orlov's idea seemed brilliant. However, upon closer inspection, it became clear that sabotaging the fleet in the Mediterranean was a gamble with virtually no chance of success.

On the state of our Baltic fleet in 1768


Peter I created the Baltic Fleet and turned it into a formidable force, but after the Tsar's death, his brainchild quickly fell into disrepair. The Emperor and Autocrat of All Russia died in 1725, and just three years later, the Swedish envoy reported to his government:

Despite the annual construction of galleys, the Russian galley fleet, compared to its former size, is greatly diminished; the naval fleet is in utter ruin, because the old ships are so rotten that no more than four or five ships of the line can be put to sea, and the construction of new ones has slackened. The admiralties are so neglected that the fleet cannot be restored to its former condition in three years, yet no one cares about this.

Peter II reduced the active fleet to four frigates and two flutes, while the remaining ships were laid up to conserve the treasury. Things improved slightly under the reign of Anna Ioannovna, so regular naval exercises were resumed in 1731. Furthermore, the Arkhangelsk shipyard resumed operations, capable of building 66-gun ships from 1737 onward. This was important because Arkhangelsk had no shortage of building material, using larch, while in St. Petersburg, ships were built from oak, which was not grown in sufficient quantities in Russia.

Nevertheless, there was a shortage of funds for the navy. In 1731, the Baltic Fleet had 36 ships of the line, but only 8 were fully operational. By the start of the War of the Polish Succession (1733), it had 10 ships of the line and frigates ready for combat. The war, of course, forced investments in the Baltic Fleet, so that by 1734, 14 ships of the line and 5 frigates were at sea, not counting smaller vessels. But then the development of the Baltic Fleet was slowed by the Russo-Turkish War of 1735-1739. Nevertheless, the fleet gradually regained its strength, so that by 1739, 16 ships of the line were operational.

During the reign of Empress Elizabeth Petrovna, the Baltic Fleet's fortunes were shaky. It performed poorly in the Russo-Swedish War of 1741-1743, and then steadily declined until the accession of Catherine II. The ships fell into disrepair, and many were no longer able to sail. Even those that were able were short-handed, forcing the fleet to recruit soldiers before setting out. Funding for the fleet dwindled by the hour: while 1,200,000 rubles were allocated for its needs in 1757, by 1767 it was only 589,000 rubles.

All of this is, of course, very sad and seems clearly unreasonable, but there's no point in blaming our sovereigns and empresses too harshly. A navy is a very expensive undertaking, and its creation and maintenance under Peter the Great was extremely costly for the Russian Empire's economy. To create a powerful Baltic Fleet, Peter the Great resorted to measures that could, without exaggeration, be called mobilization, but the state cannot permanently exist in such a manner. The question of to what extent the post-Petrine weakening of the navy is due to objective factors and to what extent to the underestimation of the importance of naval power by the country's leadership is certainly interesting, but beyond the scope of this series of articles.

Let's note that by the start of the Russo-Turkish War of 1768-1774, the Baltic Fleet, on paper, consisted of 20 ships of the line, 8 frigates, and 21 vessels of other classes. Moreover, as I wrote earlier, Catherine II, in response to the Ottoman Porte's declaration of war, declared war on it herself on November 18, 1768. Clearly, the idea of ​​sending Russian squadrons to the Mediterranean was not immediately approved by the Russian Empress, but it is known that by January 1769 she had already decided to do so.

So, it was necessary to prepare the fleet for the campaign and battle, which was done by July 1769, when Grigory Andreevich Spiridov left Kronstadt for the Aegean Sea.


Or, if you prefer, to the Greek Archipelago, as they called it back then, which is why this and subsequent Russian expeditions were often referred to as the Archipelago Expeditions of the Russian Navy. But even by this time, six months after the decision was made to send the Baltic Fleet to the Mediterranean, only seven battleships, one frigate, one bombardier, two packet boats, and four pinnaces—the latter essentially serving as supply vessels—were ready for departure.

Strictly speaking, they actually prepared eight battleships, not seven, as one of them, the Svyatoslav, was damaged early in the expedition and forced to turn back, its place taken by the eighth battleship, the Rostislav. But, of course, even eight battleships out of two dozen on the roster in six months is a meager result.

Moreover, the next expedition, which included 3 ships of the line, 2 frigates, 1 pinnace and 1 small vessel, left the Baltic only in October 1769. In total, 5 squadrons left the Mediterranean Sea, and the last one – as far back as 1773!

From this it was quite obvious that by the beginning of the Russo-Turkish War of 1768-1774, some of the ships of the Baltic Fleet were in poor condition, some were not even operational, and there were not enough crews... But even among those officers and sailors that were available, there was a major flaw in their training.

The fact is that the Baltic Fleet's ships had virtually no experience with long-distance voyages. From Kronstadt to the Morea (Peloponnese), where the Greek uprising was planned, it was a distance of approximately 7,500 km, or almost 4,050 nautical miles. And the fleet had never left the Baltic, which is no more than 1,600 km, or 864 miles, long, even though our ships didn't sail that often.



The Baltic Fleet's first Mediterranean voyage after Peter the Great took place only in 1764, but only one frigate, the Nadezhda Blagopoluchiya, was sent on the expedition. It must be said that this voyage also yielded positive results—it became clear that the bottoms of ships sailing in the Mediterranean needed additional wormproofing, and the frigate's hydrographic maps of various ports and straits were certainly useful. However, a single-ship voyage certainly failed to impart long-distance experience to the Russian fleet.

So it's safe to say: the Baltic Fleet was completely unprepared for the expedition Count Orlov proposed. And Empress Catherine II couldn't have failed to understand this.

Do you take the political factor into account? No, you don't!


The dispatch of the Baltic Fleet's ships was obviously fraught with significant risks due to the balance of foreign political forces. Briefly, in my previous article I already described the main driving forces that led Turkey to war against the Russian Empire; here I will be brief.

In the south of the European part of the Russian Empire, war broke out with the Ottomans, with the Crimean Khanate, of course, siding with the Turks. To the west, there was a long border with Poland, where Russian troops were again fighting—again, against the Bar Confederation. Only the north was quiet, but the problem was that Sweden in 1768 could in no way be considered a friend. After the slap in the face it had received from Russia in the Seven Years' War, when the Russian Empire was initially an ally, then sided with Prussia and forced the Swedes to renounce all their conquests, the future of Russo-Swedish relations looked completely uncertain.

And it was perfectly clear that sending the entire combat-ready Baltic Fleet to the Mediterranean would weaken Russia's strength in a potential war against Sweden and could provoke the latter to join Poland and Turkey. If the Swedes were to seek revenge, when else but now, while the Russian Empire was fighting in Poland and the Black Sea, and only a light galley fleet remained in the Baltic?

That is, the departure of our fleet from the Baltic could provoke Sweden to enter the war against Russia – this should have been taken into account.

Then the good things started newsOur fleet had access from the Baltic Sea to the North Sea through the Kattegat Strait, as relations with Denmark were very good in 1768. Unfortunately, that was where the good news ended, as a serious problem arose further along the Russian expedition's route: France.

It was France that pushed Turkey into war, but in 1768 it was by no means alone. Following the Seven Years' War, France had already formed a coalition with Austria, which found itself in the role of junior partner. Then two more countries joined the Treaty of Versailles: Spain and the Kingdom of Naples.

Even France alone possessed a powerful navy. In the Seven Years' War, it undoubtedly lost the naval war to England, with the French navy suffering colossal losses. The French colonial empire suffered a knockout blow, losing Canada and several other territories.

However, the French considered it a matter of honor to rebuild their navy, and their efforts were not in vain. In 1768, the French fleet comprised 66 ships of the line and 41 frigates, not counting smaller vessels. It's quite clear that even if the Russian Baltic Fleet had been able to bring all 20 ships of the line and 8 frigates to sea, it would have stood no chance against the French, and the first Archipelago Expedition, with its 7 ships of the line and 1 frigate, was a mere match for the French. Not to mention that Spanish ships were ready to join the French fleet...


The French battleship Ville de Paris

The Russian Empire alone couldn't prevent the French from destroying our fleet. France and Russia lacked common borders to march an army on Versailles. Nor did the Russian Empire have any allies at the time willing to accept Russian troops and join forces against France. Even if they had, the Russian army was already busy enough with Poland and the Ottoman Empire to fight another power.

Thus, if France had destroyed Russian ships, Catherine II would have had no choice but to accept it.

There was only one power capable of reining in the Franco-Spanish alliance at sea—Great Britain, mistress of the seas. But the British always did only what was beneficial to the British, so how could they be persuaded to defend Russian interests?

England and the Northern Chord


At first glance, it might seem that England was Russia's natural ally against France in 1768. Indeed, in the Seven Years' War, Russia initially acted as part of the anti-Prussian coalition and fought against Prussia alongside France, Austria, Sweden, and Saxony. However, upon the accession of Peter III, it switched sides from the coalition to Prussia. Meanwhile, England initially supported Prussia and fought on its side, but there were no battles between the English and Russians in this war. Then, when Russia supported Prussia, it appeared that the Russian Empire was becoming an ally of England.

At the same time, France was England's main antagonist in those years, and the Franco-Spanish-Austrian alliance was formed against the English. This was well understood in Foggy Albion. Standing alone against an alliance of continental powers was, of course, utterly disadvantageous for England, and it needed allies.

This is where the idea of ​​the “Northern Chord” actually arose – an alliance of England, Prussia, the Russian Empire and Denmark, with the neutrality of Sweden and Poland, against France, Austria and Spain.

It all seems simple and clear. Alas, politics is never simple or clear.

To begin with, it's unclear who actually came up with the idea for the "Northern Chord." Official Russian historiography usually credits Nikita Ivanovich Panin, the head of Russian foreign affairs, with it.


But not always: there is an opinion that the "Northern Chord" was invented by the Russian diplomat Baron Johann Albrecht Korff somewhere around 1762, and that N.I. Panin "adopted" his idea, supplemented it, and after the death of I.A. Korff in 1766, gave it its final form.

At the same time, the distinguished Russian (and later Soviet) historian E. V. Tarle believes that the "Northern Chord" was conceived in England and originated there during the Seven Years' War, when the contours of the Franco-Spanish-Austrian agreements were taking shape. In any case, there is no doubt that the alliance between England, Prussia, and the Russian Empire, directed against the French, had influential supporters in England, one of whom was William Pitt the Elder, Earl of Chatham, who served as Prime Minister of Great Britain until October 1768.

And so, it would seem, everything was going well for the alliance between England and Russia, but this was only at first glance. For an alliance will only be valid when the countries entering into it have common interests and are willing to make efforts to realize these interests. At the same time, the goals pursued by Great Britain, Prussia, and Russia were radically different.

What did England want? Basically, roughly the same thing that happened during the Seven Years' War. That is, a situation in which the armies of European countries, locked in conflict, bled to death on the continent, while sirs and peers seized foreign possessions. The English army avoided major battles in Europe at all costs, but the British managed to wrest Canada from the French and drive them out of India.

England was almost completely satisfied with the outcome of the Seven Years' War: the French, Britain's adversaries, were weakened, but no continental European power had gained a lead or improved its position to the point of threatening the British. Perhaps the only downside was that even in such a war, the British had run up some expenses, increasing their national debt. But improving their finances with new colonies was a matter of course. In short, the British wanted to continue fighting in this manner. So that the continental countries, squabbling among themselves, would remain in their current position, without increasing their influence and thus creating the preconditions for the emergence of a strong leader in Europe, while the British would sweep the rest of the world under their wing.

What did Russia want from the "Northern Chord"? Naturally, the exact opposite of what the British desired for the Russian Empire. Russia sought development and expansion at the expense of Poland and the Ottoman Porte, and to strengthen its position in Europe. This is clearly demonstrated by the treaty that sealed the Russo-Prussian Alliance of 1764. The treaty provided for territorial inviolability, military and financial support in the event of aggression by other countries, and freedom of trade. It also stipulated the prevention of the restoration of Swedish military power and joint action in Poland. The latter, of course, was in the interests of the Prussians and Russians, but certainly not the Poles.

Versailles prevented this, so the Russian Empire sought to befriend France. However, England had no interest in strengthening the Russian Empire; it had absolutely no use for it.

England saw Russia as an important and useful trading partner and a market for British goods, including colonial ones, in exchange for raw materials and grain. Therefore, England did not object to Russia's free use of the Baltic Sea and to Sweden's inability to interfere. However, this was the extent of Russia's beneficial development for Great Britain, and further strengthening of the Russian Empire in Foggy Albion was by no means desired.

Interestingly, I can't rule out that N. I. Panin understood this nuance. For a long time, he believed it was necessary to preserve Poland's statehood, seeing it as a useful ally—a junior partner. Such a state of affairs would probably have been more acceptable to England than the partition of Poland, and could possibly have increased the chances of Britain entering into an alliance with the Russian Empire, that is, the "Northern Accord." However, it was not Panin who ultimately determined Russian policy.

As for Prussia, it sought to escape the isolation it had found itself in at the start of the Seven Years' War and never again fall into it. Prussia was too weak to stand alone against the alliance of European powers, and the war's conclusion demonstrated this perfectly. In fact, during the Seven Years' War, Prussia found itself on the brink of collapse and could have been completely crushed. It was saved only by the fact that none of the countries opposing Prussia desired its complete downfall, as Prussia was an important element in the system of levers and balances of European politics.

So, Prussia needed powerful allies. But not excessively powerful ones, as Prussia, like England, considered Russia's further strengthening extremely undesirable. This is precisely why Prussia, a "supposed ally" of the Russian Empire, like France, encouraged the Turks to enter the war against Russia. The only difference was that the French did so quite openly and were proud of their achievements in dragging the Ottoman Porte into the conflict, while the Prussians acted secretly, so as not to provoke Russian reproaches. Later, Frederick the Great attempted to intrigue to reduce Russia's gains from the war with the Turks from 1768 to 1774. As for England, Prussia, it seems, saw no particular benefit in an alliance with it.

In view of the above, it can be concluded that the relations between Prussia, Great Britain, and Russia in those years were quite curious. On the one hand, these countries shared a common enemy—the alliance of France, Austria, and Spain. And the obvious means of successfully countering this alliance was an alliance. On the other hand, Russian, British, and Prussian interests diverged so greatly that any lasting alliance between them was utterly impossible.

In fact, this was the reason that by the beginning of the Russo-Turkish War, the “Northern Chord” for Russia had been reduced to a defensive treaty with Prussia in 1764 and a trade agreement with Great Britain in the form of the “Treaty of Friendship and Commerce between the Russian Empire and the Crown of Great Britain,” signed in 1766. However, England categorically avoided a military alliance with Russia.

And this despite the fact that British Prime Minister William Pitt the Elder was quite favorable to an alliance between Prussia, England, and Russia. But only on his own terms... In which the obligation to protect the Russian fleet from Spanish and French encroachments "for nothing" was not included anywhere.

So, in order to send Russian squadrons against the Turks in the Mediterranean, Russian diplomacy had to find reasons why the Baltic Fleet's Archipelago Expedition would serve the interests of not only the Russian Empire, but also Great Britain.

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  1. +5
    April 30 2026 08: 11
    Before moving on to the history of the Archipelago expeditions of the Russian fleet, I must offer my deepest apologies to my esteemed readers.

    I sincerely give you a standing ovation. It's rare these days to find an author willing to publicly admit their mistake, even a typo. Some of the "authors" on this site with last names starting with "St" and "Sam" could learn from this!
    1. +5
      April 30 2026 10: 26
      The story at MAI is said to be genuine.
      A group of teachers decided to write a textbook on "Onboard Electronic Warfare Instruments." They gathered, wrote, and began collecting signatures. And then came the final signature from the Big Boss. He called the authors and pointed to the title page, where all the signatures had been collected. It read: "Household Electronic Warfare Instruments."
      Signatures had to be collected a second time.
      1. +4
        April 30 2026 15: 30
        The story at MAI is said to be genuine.
        A group of teachers decided to write a textbook on "Onboard Electronic Warfare Instruments." They gathered, wrote, and began collecting signatures. And then came the final signature from the Big Boss. He called the authors and pointed to the title page, where all the signatures had been collected. It read: "Household Electronic Warfare Instruments."
        Signatures had to be collected a second time.

        It's a matter of taste. There was a case in the military: an epidemiologist wrote a draft order on the extermination of cockroaches and other vermin, which mentioned "floor cracks." He was referring, of course, to actual holes in the floor.

        The Chief of Staff spent half an hour ranting during the weekly reading of orders, waving papers and accusing the poor epidemiologist of every conceivable and not so conceivable perversion. laughing
  2. +3
    April 30 2026 08: 40
    A sensible piece. It's rare to see something like this on VO these days. I read it with interest and look forward to more.
    If naval history were taught in naval schools today, this would be quite suitable as a textbook.
  3. +4
    April 30 2026 09: 13

    Despite the annual construction of galleys, the Russian galley fleet, compared to its former size, is greatly diminished; the naval fleet is in utter ruin, because the old ships are so rotten that no more than four or five ships of the line can be put to sea, and the construction of new ones has slackened. The admiralties are so neglected that the fleet cannot be restored to its former condition in three years, yet no one cares about this.

    There's something familiar about the coachman's long songs... recourse
  4. Fat
    +2
    April 30 2026 09: 37
    hi I really enjoyed the article; it's closer to the navy than V. Ryzhov's proposal, which blames the decline of shipbuilding solely on emperors and empresses. It's gratifying that the author sheds more light on the foreign policy reasons for the focus on naval construction and repair. It's great that Andrei conceived this series; he understands naval affairs.
    With respect.
  5. +1
    April 30 2026 09: 51
    The author greatly understates the Russian navy before Catherine II. The fleet was actively built under Anna Ioannovna, when the standard complement of 27 ships of the line, mostly 66-gun ships, was introduced. The Baltic Fleet actively participated in the War of the Polish Succession of 1733-35, countering the French fleet, laying siege to Danzing, and destroying a French landing force. Under Elizabeth, the fleet was significantly modernized during the Seven Years' War and played an active role in capturing the Prussian ports of Memel and Kolberg, blocking Prussian maritime trade, combating Prussian privateers, and other actions. Then, during his short reign, Peter III managed to carry out a major rotation of the naval command staff, dismissing aging admirals. It was he who promoted Spiridov to the rank of Rear Admiral and appointed him to command the Reval squadron. Furthermore, Peter III ordered the authorized number of battleships to be increased to 36, to achieve superiority over the Danish and Swedish fleets combined. Read the book "The Russian Fleet in the Seven Years' War" (1946) by N.M. Korobkova.
    1. +4
      April 30 2026 10: 44
      As you so loudly described, your desperate reluctance to cross paths with the French at sea during the siege of Danzig.
    2. +2
      April 30 2026 10: 44
      As you so loudly described, your desperate reluctance to cross paths with the French at sea during the siege of Danzig.
      1. 0
        April 30 2026 12: 47
        So, in your opinion, the French ultimately won and repelled the Russian army from Danzing with the support of their navy? So, was there a victory over the French army and navy, no?
        1. +4
          April 30 2026 12: 57
          Yes, yes, the Russian admirals were really itching to get into battle, although they couldn't manage to gather a three-fold superiority in ships. If they had succeeded, they would have shown those frogmen, but as it was, they couldn't break the regulations.
          1. +1
            April 30 2026 14: 25
            Well, if you can force the enemy fleet to retreat and abandon your landing force to its fate without a battle, just through maneuvers, that seems even better to me. The lives of your soldiers and sailors must be valued. And the rule of a three-to-one superiority as a condition for engaging in combat was introduced into the naval regulations by Peter the Great.
    3. 0
      April 30 2026 11: 49
      Quote: denis.76
      During the Seven Years' War, under Elizabeth, the naval complement was significantly renewed and it took an active part in the military operations to capture the Prussian ports of Memel and Kolberg.

      Here is what another author writes on this issue.
      For example, in 1758, during a storm attempting to deliver provisions to Kolberg, 11 of 27 transport ships perished with all hands; the rest never reached the besieged city. The navy also performed poorly during the siege of the fortress in 1760: Kolberg was captured by Rumyantsev's land army two months after the Russian squadron withdrew to its home shores. East Prussia and Königsberg were occupied by Russian ground forces.
      I'm certainly no expert on the history of the Russian Navy. But how does this all fit together?
      1. +1
        April 30 2026 12: 52
        All navies have had tragic episodes involving losses at sea due to adverse weather. Take the losses of the British fleet during the Balaclava storm in the Black Sea in November 1854, and in the 18th century, entire fleets were lost in the Atlantic and Caribbean. But that doesn't mean the British navy was a complete failure. The main thing is to sail and fulfill its missions. That's what our navy did during the Seven Years' War. I've already mentioned where to read about it.
    4. +3
      April 30 2026 13: 38
      Quote: denis.76
      The author is too disparaging of the Russian fleet before Catherine II.

      Not really. I simply didn't describe how, in 1741, when the war against Sweden began, the "great fleet" didn't put to sea at all, leaving the army without support while the Swedish fleet operated in the Baltic Sea. I also didn't mention that in 1742, Mishukov, having received clear and firm orders to engage the Swedish fleet, simply didn't dare fight it.
      Quote: denis.76
      At that time, the standard number of battleships was introduced to 27 units

      Quote: denis.76
      In addition, Peter III ordered that the standard number of battleships be increased to 36.

      In reality, by 1768 there were 20 of them, most of them out of commission. What are we even talking about?
      Quote: denis.76
      Read the book "The Russian Fleet in the Seven Years' War" (1946) by N.M. Korobkova.

      I will quote it to you (p. 139)
      But the Russian fleet was completely underutilized in the Seven Years' War, and this was one of the important factors that determined the protracted nature of the war.
      1. +1
        April 30 2026 15: 07
        Quote from the same page 139
        "Whenever it was required of it, the fleet successfully cooperated with the army and ensured sea communications, without which it would have been unthinkable to hold East Prussia, and especially Pomerania."
        1. +2
          April 30 2026 15: 22
          Quote: denis.76
          "Whenever it was required to do so, the navy successfully cooperated with the army and ensured maritime communications

          That's right. Combined, these two quotes give exactly what I wrote.
          During the reign of Empress Elizabeth Petrovna, the affairs of the Baltic Fleet were neither good nor bad.

          It can be said that the fleet did the minimum that was expected of it, and nothing more.
  6. 0
    April 30 2026 11: 40
    In order to send Russian squadrons against the Turks in the Mediterranean Sea, Russian diplomacy had to find reasons why the Baltic Fleet's Archipelago Expedition would serve the interests of not only the Russian Empire, but also Great Britain.
    And, by and large, it turned out that the Archipelago Expedition of the Baltic Fleet subsequently served the interests of Great Britain.
  7. +5
    April 30 2026 12: 30
    He did not distinguish himself in any way during the Russo-Swedish War of 1741-1743, and then gradually went downhill until the accession of Catherine II.

    Well, the navy did take Memel in the Seven Years' War. And the navy also participated in the capture of Kolberg—failing the first landing and siege and lifting the second one too late, so the army finally took the city, its naval artillery defenses worn down.
    And yes, at that time, the Baltic Fleet was able to field 22-27 battleships. Although it's still questionable how many of them could participate in a full-fledged naval battle, rather than simply display their presence. wink
    But even those officers and sailors who were available had a major flaw in their training.
    The fact is that the ships of the Baltic Fleet had virtually no experience of long-distance voyages.

    Gangut published a series of articles about the Russian fleet's actions in the Archipelago. Regarding personnel, it was written directly: mass training of naval personnel traditionally began with the outbreak of war. Before that, all training consisted of an annual voyage of several ships across the Baltic.

    In general, the results of the combat training of the Baltic Fleet in the pre-war period were traditionally summed up by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief smile :
    We have an abundance of ships and people, but no fleet or sailors.
  8. +2
    April 30 2026 12: 52
    Just to understand how the Baltic Fleet's preparation for the Archipelago expeditions was assessed back in the days of the Empire:
    From 1763 to 1768, inclusive, aside from transport duties and Baltic voyages by Arkhangelsk-built vessels, the voyages were largely training-based. Each summer, between two and eight ships and frigates, along with several other vessels, were armed and sent to the Gulf of Finland or the Baltic Sea for practical training. Only once did a detachment consisting of a ship and a frigate sail for a month in the German Sea for the same training purpose. Typically, such detachments were assigned midshipmen, midshipmen, and cadets, sometimes in double complement, with the emphasis placed on practical seamanship. Among the latter, in addition to various shipboard exercises conducted at sea under sail, young sailors were occupied with maneuvers on rowboats while at anchor in the roadstead.
    © F. Veselago. "A Brief History of the Russian Fleet".
  9. -2
    April 30 2026 14: 52
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Not really. I simply didn't describe how, in 1741, when the war against Sweden began, the "great fleet" didn't put to sea at all, leaving the army without support while the Swedish fleet operated in the Baltic Sea. I also didn't mention that in 1742, Mishukov, having received clear and firm orders to engage the Swedish fleet, simply didn't dare fight it.

    Nevertheless, it was the blockade of Helsingfors from the sea by Mishukov's squadron that helped force the capitulation of the Swedish troops stationed there on August 24, 1742, which led Russia to victory in the war, and in the final stage in 1743, the war was fought virtually exclusively at sea, where the Russian fleet won the battle at Korpo Island on May 31, 1743, which accelerated the conclusion of peace with Sweden on favorable terms.
    1. -1
      April 30 2026 15: 30
      Quote: denis.76
      However, it was the blockade of Helsingfors from the sea by Mishukov's squadron that helped force the Swedish troops stationed there to capitulate on August 24, 1742, which led Russia to victory in the war.

      Uhh... What?:)))))
      Read here http://www.historyru.com/docs/rulers/elisaveta/elisaveta-foreign-policy-5.html#/overview
      Quote: denis.76
      and at the final stage in 1743, the war was fought virtually exclusively at sea, where the Russian fleet won the battle at Korpo Island on May 31, 1743,

      Yes. Only - a galley fleet, not a naval one.
  10. -1
    April 30 2026 15: 00
    Quote: Fitter65
    In reality, by 1768 there were 20 of them, most of them out of commission. What are we even talking about?

    This only indicates that Peter III’s shipbuilding program was curtailed by Catherine, like many of his other progressive initiatives, and during the first 6 years of Catherine II’s reign (1762-1768), the fleet fell into decline.
    1. +3
      April 30 2026 15: 33
      Quote: denis.76
      This only means that Peter III's shipbuilding program was curtailed by Catherine

      This suggests that the shipbuilding programs weren't completed and the fleet didn't receive the necessary reinforcements. Accordingly, describing the proclamation of increasing the fleet's strength to 27 and then 36 battleships as an achievement is a bit odd. Achievements would be considered if the fleet had 27 or 36 combat-ready battleships.
      Please don't become like United Russia :))))
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        April 30 2026 17: 01
        Thanks for your work Andrey, I liked it!
        In Arkhangelsk there was no shortage of building material, for which larch was used, while in St. Petersburg ships were built from oak, which we did not have in sufficient quantity

        They brought their own oak, all the way from near Kazan. And not only to the shipyards of St. Petersburg, but also to Arkhangelsk.
        Incidentally, credit for preserving the ship timber goes to Peter I, who prohibited its logging for other purposes.
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          April 30 2026 17: 11
          Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
          They brought their own oak, all the way from near Kazan. And not only to the shipyards of St. Petersburg, but also to Arkhangelsk.

          If I remember correctly, Kazan oak was one of the few oaks deemed suitable for shipbuilding by the British. Not in the first category, of course, but generally acceptable.
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            April 30 2026 19: 45
            Good evening, Dmitry!
            Without fish, cancer is a fish.
            However, in our sources, the Kazan faith (yes, there was one) has always been criticized for embezzlement and bribery, as well as for its "bad" timber.
            In essence, our cities along the Volga functioned as transport-forming hubs, where ships were constantly being built or “broken down.”
            The logic was simple: if you're upstream, you'll have a kolomenka at your service; if you're downstream, you'll have a plank boat at your service; if you're downstream, you're welcome to use a bark boat.
            Incidentally, river navies have always been important and have evolved. For example, in the Turkish wars, we employed not only rowboat and boat flotillas, but also newly invented river-sea ships, prams, and others.
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    April 30 2026 22: 45
    Oak timber was transported to Arkhangelsk by horse-drawn transport from forests in Kazan, Vyatka, Nizhny Novgorod, Orenburg, and Tambov. Beginning in 1735, undried timber was used to build 54-gun ships for the Baltic Fleet (the construction period was specified at 10-12 months), including the first two ships of the line: the City of Arkhangelsk and the Severnaya Zvezda. The last in the series, the 14th hull, the Asia, was launched in 1768. The design was notable for its weak hull fastenings, the disproportionate weight of the artillery, and the lack of any ventilation from the holds (first introduced in the English navy in 1753, ventilation soon began to be installed on Russian ships of the line as well). The 66-gun battleships of the "Glory of Russia" project, as the respected author correctly pointed out, began to be built in Arkhangelsk in 1737. However, by 1743, due to a slipway construction error, the first ships, when launched, would submerge half their hulls and stall. The sagging stern deformed the keel and weakened the entire hull. Thus, of the four ships built in 1743, only the battleship "Ekaterina" made it to Kronstadt despite a storm in the Barents Sea. The "Leferm," "Schastye," and "Friedemaker" lost their masts and developed severe leaks in their hulls, and they returned to Arkhangelsk. Moreover, during the 1742 voyage to Kronstadt, the Leferm and Schastye encountered a severe storm off the North Cape and returned to Yekaterininskaya Harbor. The slipway was lengthened and the slope increased. Furthermore, when launching the ship, wind and tide conditions were taken into account, ignoring the target launch deadlines, which were seemingly launched from St. Petersburg out of thin air, without regard for the hydrological and meteorological conditions in Arkhangelsk. A total of 41 ships of this design were launched in Arkhangelsk from 1739 to 1773. These included the famous Ne tron' menya (Don't Touch Me), Saratov, Vsevolod, Count Orlov, Pamyat Evstafiy (Memory of Evstafiya), Pobeda (Victor), Viktor, Dmitry Donskoy, and Alexander Nevsky. The most distinguished "aksakal" was the battleship Evropa (Europa), built in 1768. I served in the Baltic Fleet for 23 years, completed 5 long-distance cruises, and fought in 3 wars. It seems to me that the topic of drying ship timber, importing British ship timber from North America, and combating shipworms, mollusks, and algae on the hulls of sailing ships was discussed in the comments not very long ago.