All four Ukrainian Navy minesweepers are ready for a mission in the Strait of Hormuz.

The Ukrainian Navy is ready to deploy its fleet In a mission to ensure safe navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. Britain and France intend to organize it after the war ends, and other countries may join them. London previously assembled a virtual coalition of more than thirty countries for this purpose.

The British newspaper The Times, citing its sources, reports that virtually the entire Ukrainian Navy fleet could be deployed as part of the coalition naval forces to ensure civilian shipping in Hormuz after the end of the war with Iran.

The four rusty minesweepers in question were decommissioned from the British, Belgian, and Dutch navies in 2023 and transferred to Ukraine. Since then, they have been moored in the port of Portsmouth. In June, Ukraine will receive another Alkmaar-class minesweeper from the Netherlands, which will be renamed Genichesk. The crew is already undergoing training onboard.

Today, this issue will be discussed by naval officers from more than 30 countries at a multinational military planning summit held at the Permanent Joint Headquarters (PJHQ) in northwest London. Ukrainian naval officers, including admirals, will also participate.

The newspaper cites the words of a certain Ukrainian source on this matter:

We're ready to offer everything. There are four minesweepers in Portsmouth. They can't go to Ukraine because, firstly, they'd be target number one, and secondly, because of the Montreux Convention.

Kyiv is ready to send any of the Ukrainian Navy's ships, two of which were purchased from Britain, to clear mines in the Black Sea after the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war, a source in Ukrainian military circles told the newspaper.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer announced on April 17 that "as soon as conditions permit," France and the UK would launch a "strictly defensive" military mission to protect freedom of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz. That day, Zelenskyy joined a meeting via video link of a dozen countries discussing the normalization of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.

Having left the safety of a British port, the Ukrainian squadron could very well come under attack by the Russian Navy somewhere in neutral waters. The Americans sank an Iranian frigate off the coast of Sri Lanka, declaring it a legitimate target. However, the US is not at war with Iran, but is conducting its own "special operation" in the Middle East, pompously dubbed "Epic Fury."

Comments

[the same doctor]

And ours will let them through? After all the attacks on our ships? They've completely lost all honor...

[TermNachTer]

How can we stop them if they're in England? Well, let them go – the Persians are already waiting.

[fruc]

All four Ukrainian Navy minesweepers are ready for a mission in the Strait of Hormuz.

Excellent. All that's left is for the crew to write their wills and cast off the mooring lines.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Let them sweep the minefields. They'll die—no great loss. Those topknotted slobs should earn their keep. The economy, though. The main thing is to remember to put pots on their heads. What kind of Ukrainian shambles are they without a pot? National dress code

[knn54]

But what can they do? The Turks won’t let them into the Black Sea.

[SAG]

What can they do? The Turks won't let them into the Black Sea.

Do we have some kind of special agreement with the Turks, or did they take our side in the conflict?

[solar]

The Straits Convention prohibits the passage of warships of belligerents during hostilities.

[SAG]

Since when are we officially in a state of war?
You are reasoning from a legal point of view, as I understand it...

[solar]

Since when are we officially in a state of war?

Did I write "we are officially at war"?

...warships of any belligerent Power will not have the right to pass through the Straits...

Article 19 of the Montreux Convention

[SAG]

Did I write "we are officially at war"?

No, they didn't. Then who exactly is Turkey supposed to determine whether the parties are at war? For example, Arleigh Burke, known for his swift retreat in 2022, was allowed through the Straits by Turkey, despite the US being engaged in military action in Syria.

[SAG]

that the United States was conducting military operations in Syria

as well as Yemen and Niger...

[solar]

Everything is at Turkey's discretion. Before the convention was signed, there was a special commission.

The Convention abolished the International Straits Commission established by the Lausanne Convention, transferring its functions to the Turkish government. It also permitted the full restoration of Turkish military control over the straits and the redistribution of the Dardanelles. Turkey was authorized to close the straits to all foreign warships in times of war or when threatened with aggression. The Convention also granted Turkey the right to prohibit the transit of merchant ships from countries at war with it or threatening war.

[SAG]

Everything is at Turkey's discretion

That's exactly it, that's why the original comment

What can they do? The Turks won't let them into the Black Sea.

It's fundamentally wrong. And the impossibility of redeploying ships stationed in Britain is a blatant lie. No one was planning to hand over these troughs to Ukraine. It's a typical scam. The only money they're getting is for loans for these minesweepers. Ukrainians they will never give it back.
And it would be possible to simply laugh if hundreds of thousands of ordinary men weren’t sent to slaughter under such schemes!

[solar]

That's exactly it, that's why the original comment
What can they do? The Turks won't let them into the Black Sea. This is fundamentally wrong.

But they won't let them in. The Turks adhere to the rules laid out in the Convention.

[SAG]

Интересно, что их остановит, если всё на усмотрение Турции.

[solar]

А их не нужно никому останавливать, Турция придерживается Конвенции.

[SAG]

Пропустив тральщики через проливы, турция не нарушает ни одного правила конвенции. Что ей может помешать это сделать?

[solar]

посмотрите выше, я уже писал

[SAG]

Да, я всё чётко отслеживаю. Поэтому прочитайте внимательно переписку и найдите ошибки в своей логической цепочке.

[solar]

Minesweepers can probably get through canals and across the Danube - they should have a small draft.

[Piramidon]

Quote: also a doctor

and ours will let them through?

Where will they let them go, into the Arabian Sea or something? The Persians will meet them there.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

For the destruction of the Russian gas carrier Arctic Metagaz and other civilian vessels, these and other Ukrainian military vessels must be sunk while en route to the Strait of Hormuz or located anywhere in the waters of the World Ocean.

[Glagol1]

I don't think they'll let us through. Their only option for getting there is through the Suez Canal, which is in the eastern Mediterranean. From the Black Sea, they could launch, for example, Oniks or Kalibr missiles. However, this option is fraught with diplomatic controversy – they'd have to fly through Turkey or Bulgaria and Greece. An alternative is to use Syrian bases – it's important, of course, to see what's left of us for the potential passage of minesweepers. The most elegant option, however, is to negotiate a one-time operation with Iran. A couple of Su-34/30SM2/35 aircraft could be deployed to Iran, to the east of the country, and Kh-31 air-launched anti-ship missiles could be deployed in the Gulf of Oman to sink those Ukrainian minesweepers.
We could also talk to our friends in Yemen and supply them with the Bal missile system. Then we could launch a strike in both the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. The Kh-35U has a range of 260 km. No one will even tell us anything other than the first option—they're just banging away at civilian ships in the Mediterranean, and nothing happens here, but here we're dealing with warships.

[Asker]

I understand everything!! Europe--NATO!! It's impossible!! Not our method! But why can't we sink these???

[Piramidon]

Quote: Asker

I understand everything!! Europe--NATO!! It's impossible!! Not our method! But why can't we sink these???

You understand everything, but you still ask.

[Asker]

Because I hope that my question will change something somewhere.

[Alex F._2]

It's not right - four troughs are ready to sink, we must respect the inexpensive and disrespected

[Zoldat_A]

Having left the safety of a British port, the Ukrainian squadron could very well be attacked by the Russian Navy somewhere in neutral waters.

How is that possible? "We're like that"...

What's surprising about the article is something else. This entire "coalition of impotents" agrees to fight in the Strait of Hormuz AFTER the war is over.
They're so stupid that they didn't understand when Trump bluntly asked them, "What the hell are you doing there after the war?" Especially since not a single living soul in the world knows when this war will end. Including Trump himself.

[Butte Carl]

Da muss man doch tatsächlich schmunzeln. Die Ukro-Nazis bekommen von den guten russischen Jungs in Uniform „den Arsch gepudert“ und die Ukro-Luftpumpen prahlen tatsächlich „irgendwas, irgendwo“ hinschicken zu wollen?!? Aber mal ganz ohne Spott und Häme: Wenn Russland mit den NATO-Handlangern in Kiew, den Boden gewischt und den Nazi-Laden „denazifiziert“ hat, dass dann noch irgendwas übrig bleiben wird, was die Nazi-Bande irgendwohin schicken könnte? Grossenwahn kommt bekanntlich immer vor den Fall!

[Mouse]

a virtual coalition of more than thirty states.

Virtual them all....

[novel66]

Are you their virtual mother???
.......

[Mouse]

I? How could you even think that? Perversion is their prerogative...

[APASUS]

Will these troughs fit around the whole of Europe? Won't they fall apart?

[Piramidon]

Quote: APASUS

Will these troughs fit around the whole of Europe? Won't they fall apart?

If necessary, they'll load it onto a barge and deliver it. It's risky for them to venture into the Atlantic on their own.

[APASUS]

Quote: Piramidon

If necessary, they'll load it onto a barge and deliver it. It's risky for them to venture into the Atlantic on their own.

Поздно . Каб мин Украины, принял закон продаже излишков вооружения .Думаю они как раз попадут в излишки .Крадут краденное

[carpenter]

The four rusty minesweepers in question were decommissioned from the British, Belgian, and Dutch navies in 2023 and transferred to Ukraine. They have been moored in Portsmouth since then.

This is power!!!
It's so scary, it's creepy!!!

[tralflot1832]

And I was hoping that they were already breaking through the Bambyl-Mambyl, in short the Houthi Strait under fire from guys in slippers. But look how they got "welded" to the English piers. Can't tear them away.

[expert]

Here it all happens again - "written-off rusty troughs."
At first, they wrote the same thing about the armored vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces received from NATO.
I am not an expert on NATO navies, but it appears to me that the minesweepers are in good working order.
At least there is no rust visible in the photos...

[solar]

At least there is no rust visible in the photos...

And it’s not surprising, they have plastic cases...

[K-50]

All four Ukrainian Navy minesweepers are ready for a mission in the Strait of Hormuz.

I hope our people or the Iranians will help them reach the bottom.
Ours for damaged and sunken civilian ships visiting our ports, and for our ships attacked by Skakuas in neutral waters.
The Iranians promised to show the Skakuas "Kuzkin's mother" for interfering in the war on the side of the Pindostan and the Jewish Republic.
In general, the "cat" has scraped together enough money for itself, it's time to catch the change.

[Boniface]

Ours won't dare touch them!
Comrade, they will misjudge you!

[Andriuha077]

Russian-Yemeni relations span over a century, including support for the Yemen Arab Republic and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. Thousands of Soviet military advisers and instructors assisted in building the armed forces of both North and South Yemen. South Yemen (PDRY): From 1968 to 1991, 5245 Soviet troops visited the country, including 75 generals and over 3200 officers.

[Sergey39]

It's all propaganda. The minesweepers displace about 500 tons. Their armament consists of one 30mm cannon and two anti-aircraft machine guns: 12,7mm and 7,62mm. If they're left alone, how will they ever get through the Bay of Biscay under their own power? Only on a bulk carrier, and who's going to pay for this "pleasure"?

[drags33]

It seems Zelya is increasingly determined to become one of the "masters" of the Galaxy... Well, after Donald, of course ))))

[Alexey Lantukh]

The Ukrainian Naval Forces (Ukrainian Navy) are ready to deploy their fleet in a mission to ensure safe navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.

They'll climb into your ass without a hammer. A vassal is still a vassal.

[snow mountain]

All four minesweepers of the Ukrainian Navy

Why haven't they been sunk yet?

[cheburator]

There is no need to wait for this... shit to float out into the open sea.
These turds should already be a legitimate target, no matter where they are based!!!

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

The rejected vassal no longer knows how else to lick his overlord's ass.

[alexputnik17]

It would be nice if the Ukrainian minesweepers remained in Hormuz or somewhere else. Forever!

[Normann]

The Americans sank an Iranian frigate off the coast of Sri Lanka, declaring it a legitimate target.

We have already declared them all to be legitimate targets more than once or twice, but they only know that these are just words.

[Aag]

Well, hats are about to fly! They're already flying in the comments.
But what about the real deal? Starting with the text of the article, are these minesweepers really rusty? You can't tell from the photo.
According to open sources, they are "equipped with modern equipment..." Including "...for remote mine clearance...", "...using unmanned aerial vehicles...", "...without entering a dangerous zone for the ship...".
We've already had enough of laughing at the destruction of the Ukrainian Air Force's SVO in the first days. The flagship "Moscow," Novorossiysk (repeatedly), isn't that a good sign either? Maybe we should stop jeering?
Regarding the article. The minesweepers may not be going anywhere. Except for the next joint exercises with NATO. BUT! Even Zelenskyy's statements about his readiness to participate in "regulating international shipping" will make the EU more favorably inclined toward Ukraine. Consequently, it will portray Russia as the enemy of all that is good and kind.

[solar]

We are talking about four rusty minesweepers

The author doesn't understand what he's talking about. These are minesweepers with plastic, non-magnetic hulls, similar to our latest Pr 12700 Alexandrite.