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Wash plenty since November. Barracks equip shower cabins

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Wash plenty since November. Barracks equip shower cabinsThe Department of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense transmitted to the mass media data on the progress of work on the arrangement of the soldiers' barracks and dormitories by showers. This work in accordance with the instructions of the Minister of Defense Army General Sergei Shoigu organized by the relevant departments of the Ministry of Defense and is carried out in the framework of maintenance, reports UPPS.


At present, specialists of Slavyanka OJSC have carried out maintenance and installation of more than 15 thousand shower cabins in the departmental barracks and housing fund, the military inform. In addition, in 2013, the Spetsstroy of Russia, within the framework of the state contract on the arrangement of 50 prospective military camps, will be installed around 2,5 thousand shower cabins. Until November, 2013 will be installed around 49,5 thousand shower cabins in the places of residence and service of military personnel. Their greatest number will be mounted in the Western Military District (about 29 thousand), in the Southern Military District (8,1 thousand), in the Central Military District (7,4 thousand) and in the Eastern Military District (5 thousand).

According to these figures, it is possible to judge where and how many troops are concentrated or where the barracks and housing stock most of all needs the usual comfortable conditions for organizing normal service and living for the military of the Russian army.
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  1. dmitreach
    dmitreach 17 May 2013 10: 47 New
    10
    For showers you need a boiler room and new pipes. And so that the water is warm and not colored ...
    1. Alekseir162
      Alekseir162 17 May 2013 11: 03 New
      +6
      And the problem is that a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (maybe even two), and there is always cold water in the barracks. wassat
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach 17 May 2013 11: 18 New
        +1
        the main thing is not for your even. laughing
      2. Canep
        Canep 17 May 2013 12: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: Alekseir162
        200 liter capacitive water heater is not so expensive (you can even two)

        A company of such heaters needs 20 pieces, at the rate of 40 liters per person.
        1. Homo
          Homo 17 May 2013 13: 52 New
          -1
          Quote: Canep
          Quote: Alekseir162
          200 liter capacitive water heater is not so expensive (you can even two)

          A company of such heaters needs 20 pieces, at the rate of 40 liters per person.

          And who prevents you from taking a shower in turn, and not by the whole herd at once? Even in apartments it is not designed to visit the bathroom by everyone living immediately!
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 17 May 2013 14: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Homo
            And who prevents you from taking a shower in turn, and not by the whole herd at once?

            Not "who", but "what! Namely - ORDER OF THE DAY! While a company of 120 people will lazily flank between showers, the whole day will pass! We were given 3 minutes in the training, on the rise, to the toilet (piss, sorry)! Three pissed in the booth! And you do not speak with the whole herd ... Actually, the imitation of the Western armies is annoying ... Not with the whole herd ... In the canteen ... How much do you want and what you want to choose ... then in the shower for half a day, "sit" in the toilet with the magazine. .. In the evening, drink a beer in the regimental bar. On a date with a colleague from a neighboring company to go ... pah! Already fantasy has brought to what! Yes, not an army, but a kindergarten!
      3. smel
        smel 17 May 2013 12: 33 New
        +1
        There are no problems. Just those who know the topic understand that everything will be dumped on the company. And the boiler, and washcloths, and soap, etc. attributes. But to him, the company, no one will give anything (neither money, nor equipment, nor consumables) except for fixtures. But they will ask in an adult way for everything. And the foreman more than once in all this joy will be skinned. And it is worth remembering that with good intentions the road is paved to hell. Although the idea is good, as with socks, washing machines, plotters for constantly hot tea, rooms with all the comforts of an 3-4 person in the barracks (sorry, soldier’s dormitories), cell phones for each soldier and trips to the parents ’service at the expense of the Ministry of Defense
        1. shurup
          shurup 17 May 2013 14: 16 New
          0
          Did you talk about the Bundeswehr now?
          1. Victor
            Victor 17 May 2013 15: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: shurup
            Did you talk about the Bundeswehr now?

            Similar conditions have been implemented for several years, as implemented in the regiments and units of the 98th Guards. VDD in the city of Ivanovo and the city of Kostroma. For example, in a barracks built about eight years ago, fighters live in 4-person cockpits and in each cockpit, I emphasize, in each cockpit, its own shower. The old Soviet-style barracks have long been equipped with common showers. Each unit has washing machines. Everything is like people have. I don’t know how in other types and types of troops, but in the Airborne Forces try to think about people. The point, as always in the commanders.
            1. shurup
              shurup 17 May 2013 20: 12 New
              0
              If the Airborne Forces is the elite of the RA, then, after training, the fighters in general should be in the field and not only in the Kostroma region, but to support the young in the described conditions is ... the commanders are too relaxed and consult with their wives a lot.
              1. Victor
                Victor 18 May 2013 16: 11 New
                +1
                Quote: shurup
                If the Airborne Forces is the elite of the RA, then, after training, the fighters in general should be in the field and not only in the Kostroma region, but to support the young in the described conditions is ... the commanders are too relaxed and consult with their wives a lot.

                Our fighters spend most of their time at the training grounds. It is all the more pleasant to return to the equipped winter apartments. And those who have nothing to do in the service consult with their wives.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 17 May 2013 14: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: smel
          plotters for constantly hot tea,

          The plotter is a large printer, and for hot water - a thermal sweat. smile
          And showers are needed, I remember when I served, then the bathhouse once a week, this is rare.
          1. almost demobil
            almost demobil 17 May 2013 15: 10 New
            0
            They are equipped with showers, but so that the fighters do not break something, it is necessary to close them or block the water. Include only during the commissions, then everything will be in order. laughing
      4. rumatam
        rumatam 17 May 2013 16: 52 New
        0
        depending on what kind of water, or even enough for a year.
  2. Roll
    Roll 17 May 2013 11: 07 New
    +5
    tongue Well, thank God, in the 21st century, shower cabins survived, although judging by the photographs from the military, there is some concept of shower cabins. The curtain and the stick with the mixer are awesome. Well, I would go to Shoigu at least in Leroy and see how even the budget level showers look. Regrettably, soldiers risk their lives and health in the name of the state, and our efficient managers cannot even buy budget showers for them.
    1. Atlon
      Atlon 17 May 2013 13: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Rolm
      Well, I would go to Shoigu at least in Leroy and see how even the budget level showers look

      Those Chinese cabins will fall apart from overly emotional, young, hot bodies, in a couple of days ...
  3. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 17 May 2013 11: 15 New
    +5
    Showers are certainly good, and I'm only for it, but I am convinced that the bathhouse is needed in the army too. Because showers are hygiene, a bath is also health and spirit. Let voluntarily, but I think there will be many who wish.
  4. Sochi
    Sochi 17 May 2013 11: 24 New
    +4
    This is a holy bath, we had once a week on Saturdays. And only cold water in the washbasin. And they got used to nothing, and washed and shaved, although the hot did not hurt b.
  5. LM66
    LM66 17 May 2013 11: 40 New
    +1
    I was at a training camp in the middle of 80, abandoned a huge airfield in Kidainiai, so there a local officer showing the barracks where we were staying said that there were showers in this room, but now the room was remade as a smoking room. Here is such a touching concern.
  6. shurup
    shurup 17 May 2013 11: 47 New
    -2
    Shower is a means for spreading dirt. In addition, why are there curtains and thresholds in the photo? Women have not yet been drafted, and the total stock is on the floor.
    The bath is heated either on Saturdays, or when it is polluted on other days, or when the authorities arrive. There is an opportunity - drown planned every day.
    I won’t even talk about showers in the field. Amer let splash in the inflatable bathrooms, but in our winter you can’t get warm in the shower.
    1. Skunk
      Skunk 17 May 2013 12: 46 New
      +6
      Quote: shurup
      Shower is a means for spreading dirt.

      Have you tried in your shower also soap with a washcloth? Believe me, if you wash with them, then the dirt is not smeared, but also washed off. Try it today, I’m sure that you will discover a beautiful world of purity ...
      1. shurup
        shurup 17 May 2013 14: 08 New
        +1
        The hygiene items indicated by you are used in a comfortable sitting position in front of a basin of water of the desired temperature and after softening the upper stratum corneum in the steam room. In the absence of a shower, the last pumping with clean water is carried out using the above basin. In the absence of a special washcloth, a partner scuffles his back.
        Tell what can replace these items in their absence?
        1. Skunk
          Skunk 17 May 2013 23: 21 New
          0
          Quote: shurup
          Tell what can replace these items in their absence?

          Are you talking about a special washcloth or partner? You know, talk about the washcloth as much as you like, but you don’t need to talk about a partner in the bath, and you don’t need to replace him. Propagate the traits of what ... laughing
      2. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt 17 May 2013 14: 41 New
        +4
        In defense of shurup, I must say that even if you immediately after taking a shower go to the bath ........ you will see that there is dirt on the body.
    2. Mikado
      Mikado 17 May 2013 13: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: shurup
      In addition, why are there curtains and thresholds in the photo?


      Immediately obvious, the person did not feel the problem) Spray fly from the shower.
      1. shurup
        shurup 17 May 2013 14: 10 New
        +1
        Therefore, fighters will now celebrate a small need exclusively sitting.
  7. rauffg
    rauffg 17 May 2013 11: 54 New
    0
    and we had a shower in the barracks.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 17 May 2013 12: 29 New
      +1
      We have the same, and the water is cold and cold again smile
  8. BARKAS
    BARKAS 17 May 2013 12: 02 New
    +2
    There were showers before, in some barracks there is an experience, for example, we washed ourselves and didn’t refuse to shower and sometimes even went to the local city bath to take a steam bath, the commanders turned a blind eye to such an AWOL, everything was nearby.
  9. jayich
    jayich 17 May 2013 12: 09 New
    +7
    1. Photos may not correspond to reality do not pay attention
    2. Shower cabins are installed in accordance with the statement of work for installation
    3. On the 1st floor there is a capital with tile and the so-called centralized drain
    4. On the upper floors of the barracks, showers will be installed as in Leroy Merlin
    5. Where additional electricity, water supply networks are supplied
    per 5 showers per company
    6. Where is it possible to bring hot water from boiler houses or central heating stations, where it is not possible? We supply capacitive storage (boilers) in the required quantities, where it is not possible to install the above, install flow-through water heaters.
    7. In general, until the end of the year we will equip in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense
    8. Supplies of materials are already underway. Installation has begun.
    1. shurup
      shurup 17 May 2013 13: 56 New
      +1
      When all this economy unfreezes, together with a power outage (see ZhZL Chubais), Shoigu will again head the Ministry of Emergencies and restore order. He can combine two posts.
      And the money is bye.
  10. Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer 17 May 2013 12: 29 New
    0
    Oh, progress. Now maybe in the toilets hang the door in the booths.
    We could only have installed normal showers, and not these blinds, oilcloths, nurseries of unsanitary conditions.
  11. kmike
    kmike 17 May 2013 12: 34 New
    0
    I approve of the army’s humanization, but ... In our unit, about 6 years ago, they installed automatic washing machines and microwave ovens. And some contract soldiers managed to wash the berets in the machine and dried them quickly in the microwave, and when they were finished they sold money in a microwave oven at a nearby store. And they’ll come up with showers, a good faucet costs more than 1000.
  12. saygon66
    saygon66 17 May 2013 12: 38 New
    +1
    - It's just that boilers need to be installed so that “skillful hands” do not get to them, and the booths would be simpler, more convenient for cleaning and disinfection ...
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 17 May 2013 14: 36 New
      +2
      Do not worry, "skillful hands" will not get. Here's a joke about the topic:

      - Comrade Warrant Officer! Can I watch TV?
      - You can, fighters. Just don't turn it on!
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 17 May 2013 15: 50 New
        +1
        - It's funny ...
  13. individual
    individual 17 May 2013 12: 43 New
    -2
    I don’t know how anyone, but I believe that a healthy Russian guy aged 18-20 should be brought up in the traditions of a lowly Spartan image and naturalness close to nature. Creating comfort should surround the time of rest, vacation and nothing more. The difficulties of the life of a young soldier strengthen his will and help the formation of a person who can stand up for herself.
    And the "command of the time" has nothing to do with it.
    This "command" has already led Western civilization to self-destruction.
    And we need it?
    1. Hleb
      Hleb 17 May 2013 12: 53 New
      +2
      Well, you give) this is a normal component of everyday life. just wash off the sweat from ... and you are about Spartan conditions)
      hygiene mus mus
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 17 May 2013 13: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Gleb
        Well, you give) this is a normal component of everyday life. just wash off the sweat from ... and you are about Spartan conditions) hygiene mus zayn!

        Are you hinting that before that the army walked in mud and lice ??? I will answer you, I served two years. So here. On the territory of the unit there was a bath with showers. And you could go there, at least every day. The only thing is that it was heated only once a week, with hot water, and on simple days the water is cold. This did not stop those who wanted to go to the shower. Those who did not want to wash themselves and wash themselves in sinks, stripping to their underpants or waist-high. And there were those (units) who didn’t wash at all ... Pigs, the so-called. But these were units, and on the bathing day they also washed. I don’t see anything major in taking a cold shower. It tempers and disciplines, and it's nice after a hard day. And the bath, once a week, is already washed properly. And all these showers, washing machines and microwave ovens, instantly put into disrepair, the playful soldiers' hands of yesterday's boys ... IMHO - money down the drain! Moreover, there is no technology with a quality mark and a mark Made in the USSR. And the Chinese are not adapted to such loads. After a week, everything will be broken plastic, after two they will break glass, after three they will tear off the heads of the faucets ... And the ruins of shower stalls, with headless hoses, curtained with polyethylene on a rope will stand in their mouths ...
        1. commentor
          commentor 17 May 2013 15: 43 New
          0
          All served.
          The culture of the 90s army is just awful. People returned from the army with grime, after which it was not like going to the shower, but did not want to go to the washstand when they saw the result. I am not talking about such simple things as washing your hands after using the toilet.

          This culture was embedded in people thanks to the disregard and lives in many of us to this day.
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 17 May 2013 18: 55 New
            +1
            Quote: commentor
            Everyone served. The culture of the 90s army is just awful. People returned from the army with grime, after which it was not like going to the shower, but did not want to go to the washstand when they saw the result.

            I would urge you to indiscriminately blame everyone for swine ... This song about "unwashed" Russia, we hear for hundreds of years ... And from whom? From those who invented perfume to drown out the stench of their unwashed bodies. Are you one of them? And I’ll also say about the Army. The army does not teach (and cannot teach) to be dirty, if the correct habits are inculcated by parents from childhood. And the pigs were, are, are and always will be! But Chushka - units, and it pleases!
            1. commentor
              commentor 18 May 2013 22: 23 New
              0
              I do not blame anyone, we are all ours and we must speak directly about problems in our midst in order to solve them.
              If a person is vaccinated with cleanliness, then he will go to wash under a cold shower. Otherwise, you need to improve the culture, maybe even double-bath a week, or maybe shower rooms. Different paths - one goal.
    2. Skunk
      Skunk 17 May 2013 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: individ
      naturalness close to nature

      And right! Let's ban the toilets in the army, let go to the nearest forest park zone to unite with nature ...
      Another toothbrush to ban. And then pampered, you know ...
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 17 May 2013 13: 35 New
        -1
        Quote: Skunk
        And right! Let's ban toilets in the army

        Have you seen the toilet in the Army ??? belay I mean, those who can sit at home, relaxing? laughing

        Quote: Skunk
        let people go to the nearest forest park zone with nature ...

        Not necessary. We had a toilet on the street, 10 points. Reinforced concrete! In winter and summer. And in the training there were booths in the company, but the toilet bowls there EXCLUSIVELY "Genoa"
        1. commentor
          commentor 17 May 2013 15: 33 New
          +2
          Explain, you want to say that the US military x * evo are fighting? And all because they have clean toilets, private showers and a buffet?

          If you served in shitty conditions, then the rest should go the same way, because Does it seem to you that you have turned out to be an exemplary citizen thanks to the army?
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 17 May 2013 18: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: commentor
            Explain, you want to say that the US military x * evo are fighting?

            Yes, very bad.

            Quote: commentor
            And all because they have clean toilets, private showers and a buffet?

            Not therefore, but because they are spoiled. And they won’t dig trenches because a trencher has been laid.

            Quote: commentor
            If you served in shitty conditions, then the rest should go the same way,

            I served in the NORMAL conditions of the most powerful Army in the world, and you served?

            Quote: commentor
            because Does it seem to you that you have turned out to be an exemplary citizen thanks to the army?

            I don’t think so, and exemplary does not happen by definition, but the fact that the Army has taught me a lot is true.
    3. Larus
      Larus 17 May 2013 13: 24 New
      0
      A shower is a necessary thing, because not everyone can and doesn’t always wash on a weekend simply because the time of the part is over. The main thing is that water would not pour when it comes to someone.
  14. smart ass
    smart ass 17 May 2013 12: 44 New
    0
    Well, finally !!!!!!! Wait! SHOIGU pasiba
  15. Atlon
    Atlon 17 May 2013 13: 21 New
    +3
    Quote: Alekseir162
    And what’s the problem, a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (you can even have two)

    That would wash 5 people ... No idea ... The rest to wait half a day until the next 200 liters are heated.
    1. Homo
      Homo 17 May 2013 13: 57 New
      -3
      Quote: Atlon
      Quote: Alekseir162
      And what’s the problem, a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (you can even have two)

      That would wash 5 people ... No idea ... The rest to wait half a day until the next 200 liters are heated.

      As has been repeatedly said on this site - LEARN THE MATCH !!! TTX heaters and boilers learn!
      1. Atlon
        Atlon 17 May 2013 14: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Homo
        As has been repeatedly said on this site - LEARN THE MATCH !!! TTX heaters and boilers learn!

        I learned them comprehensively, I used them myself. So it’s better to train the materiel for you! And if you need a shower, to spread a dirt along the body with a thin stream, then yes ... There are enough barrels of water for the company! laughing
        1. commentor
          commentor 17 May 2013 15: 36 New
          0
          Modern instantaneous water heaters work fine, you do not need to wait for anything.
          Plus, there is a portioned supply of water, not bad waste.
          1. Atlon
            Atlon 17 May 2013 19: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: commentor
            Modern instantaneous water heaters work fine, you do not need to wait for anything.

            Personally used the sim device? wink Can you calculate what water flow should be at a given power (well, let it be 5 kW) for a delta of 25 g.? That is, from cold water from a tap 8-10 g, make 33-35 gr.? Count ... And I just used a groove too ... One, two to wash with a gentle stream, in the country is enough, but wash the company in this way! laughing
            1. Homo
              Homo 17 May 2013 23: 59 New
              0
              Storage water heater with thermal insulation EVA-450.

              Economical, easy to operate, corrosion-resistant (completely made of stainless steel), with effective thermal insulation, reliable, automatically maintaining the set temperature, not requiring supervision during operation. Provides several places for the analysis of hot water, including those located on different floors. The EVA-450 water heater will solve the problem of providing large quantities of hot water for technological, sanitary and hygienic needs in any sectors of the economy.

              It is especially effective for use on livestock farms, where the conditions are characterized by intensive operation, high humidity and other adverse factors.


              Technical specifications:
              Tank capacity, l 450
              Rated power, kW 15
              Rated voltage of three-phase alternating current with a frequency of 50 Hz, 380 V
              Working pressure of water in the tank, MPa, no more than 0,5
              The range of regulation of the temperature of water heating, 0C 38-85
              Accession pipelines, dy, mm 20
              Occupied area, sq. m 0,58
              Diameter, mm, no more than 690
              Height, mm, no more than 2000
              Weight, kg, no more than 90
              Heating time from 5 ° C to 85 ° C, 2,5 hours

              Every 2,5 hours 450 liters of boiling water is not enough ???
  16. Larus
    Larus 17 May 2013 13: 22 New
    +2
    It's a good thing in the evening to wash normally in the shower, and not in the sink and cold) The main thing is that the booths should be enough for everyone to wash, and not one on the floor)
  17. Radioman
    Radioman 17 May 2013 13: 26 New
    +2
    And who will pay the water bills? I see it this way - after the sharply increased costs for paying for water, booths will be allowed only on Saturdays.
    And in the long run, I see another criminal case related to fraud during the installation and operation of showers in military units ...
  18. magadanets
    magadanets 17 May 2013 13: 36 New
    +1
    Cabins can be good. Installing this is not all. It would still be someone to service them. Cabins in the process can break down. Yes, and the soldiers do not always take care of the property. There are three plumbers in the “Slavyanka” on the garrison. little time is needed. Again, from the spare parts they have an absolute zero. Again, everything will be dumped on the company.
  19. jayich
    jayich 17 May 2013 14: 30 New
    +1
    People can stop writing nonsense, huh? You don’t buy anything from China, you won’t get money either, wrote above read carefully 5 booths in the company there will be no curtains that are so stubborn, and they will work all the time, we will repair and break.
    Everything has been calculated for a long time already, and bills and quantity, etc. READ BELOW AND DO NOT WRITTEN WHEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK
    1. Photos may not correspond to reality do not pay attention
    2. Shower cabins are installed in accordance with the statement of work for installation
    3. On the 1st floor there is a capital with tile and the so-called centralized drain
    4. On the upper floors of the barracks, showers will be installed as in Leroy Merlin
    5. Where additional electricity, water supply networks are supplied
    per 5 showers per company
    6. Where is it possible to bring hot water from boiler houses or central heating stations, where it is not possible? We supply capacitive storage (boilers) in the required quantities, where it is not possible to install the above, install flow-through water heaters.
    7. In general, until the end of the year we will equip in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense
    8. Supplies of materials are already underway. Installation has begun.
  20. Ezhaak
    Ezhaak 17 May 2013 14: 54 New
    0
    the specialists of Slavyanka OJSC carried out current repairs and installation of more than 15 thousand showers,
    And after a couple of years it turns out that again this “Slav” took away several lards. Or vice versa. Can we hope that while the showdown in the UK is going on, will everything be all right?
  21. Radioman
    Radioman 17 May 2013 14: 54 New
    +2
    Dear Jayich, don't be nervous. It's just that the community is trying to figure out the topic. You, as I understand it, are the representatives of the contractor involved in the installation of these booths.
    I will explain my question about paying for water. The limits on the source of financing from which the payment for the communal apartment will take place are formed in advance, in the previous year (the limit for 2014 will be formed in 2013). Existing practice provides for financing within the framework of the current year, taking into account the diflator (inflation coefficient). So the question is - an increase in the cost of paying for water and sewage in connection with the installation of cabins is provided?
    The fact that you purchase and install everything is beyond doubt. The operation of this equipment raises a question. I myself work in one of the state corporations, and so - after the outsourcing staff takes outsourcing, to find a living plumber we have a big problem.
  22. jayich
    jayich 17 May 2013 16: 42 New
    0
    Yes, it’s already laid down in those passports of military towns and drains and electricity, etc. plus to the service tariff for 2014 under the state contract.
    The operation is just not a problem in this matter especially I do not see.
    On the first call, and we eliminate the problems that have arisen, as in everything else, there are certainly certain difficulties with the purchase of expensive equipment, for example, a pump requires a very large amount of paper, but any little thing is much easier to purchase and install
    A little is not so formed, but on the whole it’s true not just for a year, but for the duration of the state contract. per 1 sq.m, for example, 20 rubles in 2013; 26 rubles in 2015.
  23. kind
    kind 17 May 2013 20: 15 New
    +1
    The question is not worth a damn. Is that a problem? !! Vasiliev stole so much that each soldier can build a separate bath.
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