Wash plenty since November. Barracks equip shower cabins

The Department of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense transmitted to the mass media data on the progress of work on the arrangement of the soldiers' barracks and dormitories by showers. This work in accordance with the instructions of the Minister of Defense Army General Sergei Shoigu organized by the relevant departments of the Ministry of Defense and is carried out in the framework of maintenance, reports UPPS.

At present, specialists of Slavyanka OJSC have carried out maintenance and installation of more than 15 thousand shower cabins in the departmental barracks and housing fund, the military inform. In addition, in 2013, the Spetsstroy of Russia, within the framework of the state contract on the arrangement of 50 prospective military camps, will be installed around 2,5 thousand shower cabins. Until November, 2013 will be installed around 49,5 thousand shower cabins in the places of residence and service of military personnel. Their greatest number will be mounted in the Western Military District (about 29 thousand), in the Southern Military District (8,1 thousand), in the Central Military District (7,4 thousand) and in the Eastern Military District (5 thousand).

According to these figures, it is possible to judge where and how many troops are concentrated or where the barracks and housing stock most of all needs the usual comfortable conditions for organizing normal service and living for the military of the Russian army.

Comments

[dmitreach]

For showers you need a boiler room and new pipes. And so that the water is warm and not colored ...

[Alekseir162]

And the problem is that a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (maybe even two), and there is always cold water in the barracks.

[dmitreach]

the main thing is not for your even.

[Canep]

Quote: Alekseir162

200 liter capacitive water heater is not so expensive (you can even two)

A company of such heaters needs 20 pieces, at the rate of 40 liters per person.

[Homo]

Quote: Canep

Quote: Alekseir162

200 liter capacitive water heater is not so expensive (you can even two)

A company of such heaters needs 20 pieces, at the rate of 40 liters per person.

And who prevents you from taking a shower in turn, and not by the whole herd at once? Even in apartments it is not designed to visit the bathroom by everyone living immediately!

[Atlon]

Quote: Homo

And who prevents you from taking a shower in turn, and not by the whole herd at once?

Not "who", but "what! Namely - the order of the day! While a company of 120 people lazily floats between showers, the whole day will pass! In training, on getting up, on the toilet (piss, sorry) we were given 3 minutes! Three at a time in a booth! And you say not to the whole herd ... In general, imitation of the Western armies strains ... Not all the herd to the canteen ... Choose how much and what you want ... then take a shower for half a day, "sit" in the toilet with a magazine. .. In the evening to drink beer in the regimental bar. Go on a date with a colleague from a neighboring company ... ugh! Now fantasy has brought it to what! Yes, not an army, but a kindergarten!

[smel]

There are no problems. Just those who know the topic understand that everything will be dumped on the company. And the boiler, and washcloths, and soap, etc. attributes. But to him, the company, no one will give anything (neither money, nor equipment, nor consumables) except for fixtures. But they will ask in an adult way for everything. And the foreman more than once in all this joy will be skinned. And it is worth remembering that with good intentions the road is paved to hell. Although the idea is good, as with socks, washing machines, plotters for constantly hot tea, rooms with all the comforts of an 3-4 person in the barracks (sorry, soldier’s dormitories), cell phones for each soldier and trips to the parents ’service at the expense of the Ministry of Defense

[shurup]

Did you talk about the Bundeswehr now?

[Victor]

Quote: shurup

Did you talk about the Bundeswehr now?

Similar conditions have been implemented for several years, as implemented in the regiments and units of the 98th Guards. VDD in the city of Ivanovo and the city of Kostroma. For example, in a barracks built about eight years ago, fighters live in 4-person cockpits and in each cockpit, I emphasize, in each cockpit, its own shower. The old Soviet-style barracks have long been equipped with common showers. Each unit has washing machines. Everything is like people have. I don’t know how in other types and types of troops, but in the Airborne Forces try to think about people. The point, as always in the commanders.

[shurup]

If the Airborne Forces is the elite of the RA, then, after training, the fighters in general should be in the field and not only in the Kostroma region, but to support the young in the described conditions is ... the commanders are too relaxed and consult with their wives a lot.

[Victor]

Quote: shurup

If the Airborne Forces is the elite of the RA, then, after training, the fighters in general should be in the field and not only in the Kostroma region, but to support the young in the described conditions is ... the commanders are too relaxed and consult with their wives a lot.

Our fighters spend most of their time at the training grounds. It is all the more pleasant to return to the equipped winter apartments. And those who have nothing to do in the service consult with their wives.

[Uncle]

Quote: smel

plotters for constantly hot tea,

The plotter is a large printer, and for hot water - a thermal sweat.
And showers are needed, I remember when I served, then the bathhouse once a week, this is rare.

[almost demobil]

They are equipped with showers, but so that the fighters do not break something, it is necessary to close them or block the water. Include only during the commissions, then everything will be in order.

[rumatam]

depending on what kind of water, or even enough for a year.

[Roll]

Well, thank God, in the 21st century, shower cabins survived, although judging by the photographs from the military, there is some concept of shower cabins. The curtain and the stick with the mixer are awesome. Well, I would go to Shoigu at least in Leroy and see how even the budget level showers look. Regrettably, soldiers risk their lives and health in the name of the state, and our efficient managers cannot even buy budget showers for them.

[Atlon]

Quote: Rolm

Well, I would go to Shoigu at least in Leroy and see how even the budget level showers look

Those Chinese cabins will fall apart from overly emotional, young, hot bodies, in a couple of days ...

[vladsolo56]

Showers are certainly good, and I'm only for it, but I am convinced that the bathhouse is needed in the army too. Because showers are hygiene, a bath is also health and spirit. Let voluntarily, but I think there will be many who wish.

[Sochi]

This is a holy bath, we had once a week on Saturdays. And only cold water in the washbasin. And they got used to nothing, and washed and shaved, although the hot did not hurt b.

[LM66]

I was at a training camp in the middle of 80, abandoned a huge airfield in Kidainiai, so there a local officer showing the barracks where we were staying said that there were showers in this room, but now the room was remade as a smoking room. Here is such a touching concern.

[shurup]

Shower is a means for spreading dirt. In addition, why are there curtains and thresholds in the photo? Women have not yet been drafted, and the total stock is on the floor.
The bath is heated either on Saturdays, or when it is polluted on other days, or when the authorities arrive. There is an opportunity - drown planned every day.
I won’t even talk about showers in the field. Amer let splash in the inflatable bathrooms, but in our winter you can’t get warm in the shower.

[Skunk]

Quote: shurup

Shower is a means for spreading dirt.

Have you tried in your shower also soap with a washcloth? Believe me, if you wash with them, then the dirt is not smeared, but also washed off. Try it today, I’m sure that you will discover a beautiful world of purity ...

[shurup]

The hygiene items indicated by you are used in a comfortable sitting position in front of a basin of water of the desired temperature and after softening the upper stratum corneum in the steam room. In the absence of a shower, the last pumping with clean water is carried out using the above basin. In the absence of a special washcloth, a partner scuffles his back.
Tell what can replace these items in their absence?

[Skunk]

Quote: shurup

Tell what can replace these items in their absence?

Are you talking about a special washcloth or partner? You know, talk about the washcloth as much as you like, but you don’t need to talk about a partner in the bath, and you don’t need to replace him. Propagate the traits of what ...

[Grishka100watt]

In defense of shurup, I must say that even if you immediately after taking a shower go to the bath ........ you will see that there is dirt on the body.

[Mikado]

Quote: shurup

In addition, why are there curtains and thresholds in the photo?

Immediately obvious, the person did not feel the problem) Spray fly from the shower.

[shurup]

Therefore, fighters will now celebrate a small need exclusively sitting.

[rauffg]

and we had a shower in the barracks.

[Gecko]

We have the same, and the water is cold and cold again

[BARKAS]

There were showers before, in some barracks there is an experience, for example, we washed ourselves and didn’t refuse to shower and sometimes even went to the local city bath to take a steam bath, the commanders turned a blind eye to such an AWOL, everything was nearby.

[jayich]

1. Photos may not correspond to reality do not pay attention
2. Shower cabins are installed in accordance with the statement of work for installation
3. On the 1st floor there is a capital with tile and the so-called centralized drain
4. On the upper floors of the barracks, showers will be installed as in Leroy Merlin
5. Where additional electricity, water supply networks are supplied
per 5 showers per company
6. Where is it possible to bring hot water from boiler houses or central heating stations, where it is not possible? We supply capacitive storage (boilers) in the required quantities, where it is not possible to install the above, install flow-through water heaters.
7. In general, until the end of the year we will equip in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense
8. Supplies of materials are already underway. Installation has begun.

[shurup]

When all this economy is unfrozen, coupled with a power outage (see ZhZL "Chubais") - Shoigu will again lead the Emergencies Ministry and put things in order. He can combine two positions.
And the money is bye.

[Drosselmeyer]

Oh, progress. Now maybe in the toilets hang the door in the booths.
We could only have installed normal showers, and not these blinds, oilcloths, nurseries of unsanitary conditions.

[kmike]

I approve of the army’s humanization, but ... In our unit, about 6 years ago, they installed automatic washing machines and microwave ovens. And some contract soldiers managed to wash the berets in the machine and dried them quickly in the microwave, and when they were finished they sold money in a microwave oven at a nearby store. And they’ll come up with showers, a good faucet costs more than 1000.

[saygon66]

- But the boilers need to be installed so that "skillful hands" do not reach them, and the cabins would be simpler, more convenient for cleaning and disinfection ...

[Stiletto]

Don't worry, "skillful hands" won't get there. Here's a joke about you:

- Comrade Warrant Officer! Can I watch TV?
- You can, fighters. Just don't turn it on!

[saygon66]

- It's funny ...

[individual]

I don’t know how anyone, but I believe that a healthy Russian guy aged 18-20 should be brought up in the traditions of a lowly Spartan image and naturalness close to nature. Creating comfort should surround the time of rest, vacation and nothing more. The difficulties of the life of a young soldier strengthen his will and help the formation of a person who can stand up for herself.
And the "command of the time" has nothing to do with it.
This "command" has already led Western civilization to self-destruction.
And we need it?

[Hleb]

Well, you give) this is a normal component of everyday life. just wash off the sweat from ... and you are about Spartan conditions)
hygiene mus mus

[Atlon]

Quote: Gleb

Well, you give) this is a normal component of everyday life. just wash off the sweat from ... and you are about Spartan conditions) hygiene mus zayn!

Are you hinting that before that the army walked in mud and lice ??? I will answer you, I served two years. So here. On the territory of the unit there was a bath with showers. And you could go there, at least every day. The only thing is that it was heated only once a week, with hot water, and on simple days the water is cold. This did not stop those who wanted to go to the shower. Those who did not want to wash themselves and wash themselves in sinks, stripping to their underpants or waist-high. And there were those (units) who didn’t wash at all ... Pigs, the so-called. But these were units, and on the bathing day they also washed. I don’t see anything major in taking a cold shower. It tempers and disciplines, and it's nice after a hard day. And the bath, once a week, is already washed properly. And all these showers, washing machines and microwave ovens, instantly put into disrepair, the playful soldiers' hands of yesterday's boys ... IMHO - money down the drain! Moreover, there is no technology with a quality mark and a mark Made in the USSR. And the Chinese are not adapted to such loads. After a week, everything will be broken plastic, after two they will break glass, after three they will tear off the heads of the faucets ... And the ruins of shower stalls, with headless hoses, curtained with polyethylene on a rope will stand in their mouths ...

[commentor]

All served.
The culture of the 90s army is just awful. People returned from the army with grime, after which it was not like going to the shower, but did not want to go to the washstand when they saw the result. I am not talking about such simple things as washing your hands after using the toilet.

This culture was embedded in people thanks to the disregard and lives in many of us to this day.

[Atlon]

Quote: commentor

Everyone served. The culture of the 90s army is just awful. People returned from the army with grime, after which it was not like going to the shower, but did not want to go to the washstand when they saw the result.

I would warn you so indiscriminately to accuse everyone of swinishness ... This song about "unwashed" Russia, we have been hearing for more than one hundred years ... And from whom? From those who invented perfume to drown out the stench of their unwashed bodies. Are you one of them? And I will also say about the Army. The army does not teach (and cannot teach) how to be filthy if parents have instilled the right habits from childhood. And Chushki were, are and will always be! But there are only a few pigs, and it pleases!

[commentor]

I do not blame anyone, we are all ours and we must speak directly about problems in our midst in order to solve them.
If a person is vaccinated with cleanliness, then he will go to wash under a cold shower. Otherwise, you need to improve the culture, maybe even double-bath a week, or maybe shower rooms. Different paths - one goal.

[Skunk]

Quote: individ

naturalness close to nature

And right! Let's ban the toilets in the army, let go to the nearest forest park zone to unite with nature ...
Another toothbrush to ban. And then pampered, you know ...

[Atlon]

Quote: Skunk

And right! Let's ban toilets in the army

Have you seen the toilet in the Army ??? I mean, those who can sit at home, relaxing?

Quote: Skunk

let people go to the nearest forest park zone with nature ...

Not necessary. We had a toilet on the street, for 10 points. Reinforced concrete! In winter and summer. And in the training there were booths in the company, but the toilets there were EXCLUSIVELY "Genoa"

[commentor]

Explain, you want to say that the US military x * evo are fighting? And all because they have clean toilets, private showers and a buffet?

If you served in shitty conditions, then the rest should go the same way, because Does it seem to you that you have turned out to be an exemplary citizen thanks to the army?

[Atlon]

Quote: commentor

Explain, you want to say that the US military x * evo are fighting?

Yes, very bad.

Quote: commentor

And all because they have clean toilets, private showers and a buffet?

Not therefore, but because they are spoiled. And they won’t dig trenches because a trencher has been laid.

Quote: commentor

If you served in shitty conditions, then the rest should go the same way,

I served in the NORMAL conditions of the most powerful Army in the world, and you served?

Quote: commentor

because Does it seem to you that you have turned out to be an exemplary citizen thanks to the army?

I don’t think so, and exemplary does not happen by definition, but the fact that the Army has taught me a lot is true.

[Larus]

A shower is a necessary thing, because not everyone can and doesn’t always wash on a weekend simply because the time of the part is over. The main thing is that water would not pour when it comes to someone.

[smart ass]

Well, finally !!!!!!! Wait! SHOIGU pasiba

[Atlon]

Quote: Alekseir162

And what’s the problem, a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (you can even have two)

That would wash 5 people ... No idea ... The rest to wait half a day until the next 200 liters are heated.

[Homo]

Quote: Atlon

Quote: Alekseir162

And what’s the problem, a 200 liter hot water tank is not that expensive (you can even have two)

That would wash 5 people ... No idea ... The rest to wait half a day until the next 200 liters are heated.

As has been repeatedly said on this site - LEARN THE MATCH !!! TTX heaters and boilers learn!

[Atlon]

Quote: Homo

As has been repeatedly said on this site - LEARN THE MATCH !!! TTX heaters and boilers learn!

I learned them comprehensively, I used them myself. So it’s better to train the materiel for you! And if you need a shower, to spread a dirt along the body with a thin stream, then yes ... There are enough barrels of water for the company!

[commentor]

Modern instantaneous water heaters work fine, you do not need to wait for anything.
Plus, there is a portioned supply of water, not bad waste.

[Atlon]

Quote: commentor

Modern instantaneous water heaters work fine, you do not need to wait for anything.

Personally used the sim device? Can you calculate what water flow should be at a given power (well, let it be 5 kW) for a delta of 25 g.? That is, from cold water from a tap 8-10 g, make 33-35 gr.? Count ... And I just used a groove too ... One, two to wash with a gentle stream, in the country is enough, but wash the company in this way!

[Homo]

Storage water heater with thermal insulation EVA-450.

Economical, easy to operate, corrosion-resistant (completely made of stainless steel), with effective thermal insulation, reliable, automatically maintaining the set temperature, not requiring supervision during operation. Provides several places for the analysis of hot water, including those located on different floors. The EVA-450 water heater will solve the problem of providing large quantities of hot water for technological, sanitary and hygienic needs in any sectors of the economy.

It is especially effective for use on livestock farms, where the conditions are characterized by intensive operation, high humidity and other adverse factors.


Technical specifications:
Tank capacity, l 450
Rated power, kW 15
Rated voltage of three-phase alternating current with a frequency of 50 Hz, 380 V
Working pressure of water in the tank, MPa, no more than 0,5
The range of regulation of the temperature of water heating, 0C 38-85
Accession pipelines, dy, mm 20
Occupied area, sq. m 0,58
Diameter, mm, no more than 690
Height, mm, no more than 2000
Weight, kg, no more than 90
Heating time from 5 ° C to 85 ° C, 2,5 hours

Every 2,5 hours 450 liters of boiling water is not enough ???

[Larus]

It's a good thing in the evening to wash normally in the shower, and not in the sink and cold) The main thing is that the booths should be enough for everyone to wash, and not one on the floor)

[radioman]

And who will pay the water bills? I see it this way - after the sharply increased costs for paying for water, booths will be allowed only on Saturdays.
And in the long run, I see another criminal case related to fraud during the installation and operation of showers in military units ...

[magadanets]

The cabins can be good. Installing this is not all. There would be someone else to serve them. The cabins in the process can break down. And the soldiers are not always careful about the property. In "Slavyanka" there are three plumbers in the garrison. little time is needed. Again, they have absolute zero from spare parts. Again, everything will be blamed on the company commander.

[jayich]

People can stop writing nonsense, huh? You don’t buy anything from China, you won’t get money either, wrote above read carefully 5 booths in the company there will be no curtains that are so stubborn, and they will work all the time, we will repair and break.
Everything has been calculated for a long time already, and bills and quantity, etc. READ BELOW AND DO NOT WRITTEN WHEN IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ASK
1. Photos may not correspond to reality do not pay attention
2. Shower cabins are installed in accordance with the statement of work for installation
3. On the 1st floor there is a capital with tile and the so-called centralized drain
4. On the upper floors of the barracks, showers will be installed as in Leroy Merlin
5. Where additional electricity, water supply networks are supplied
per 5 showers per company
6. Where is it possible to bring hot water from boiler houses or central heating stations, where it is not possible? We supply capacitive storage (boilers) in the required quantities, where it is not possible to install the above, install flow-through water heaters.
7. In general, until the end of the year we will equip in accordance with the order of the Ministry of Defense
8. Supplies of materials are already underway. Installation has begun.

[Ezhaak]

the specialists of Slavyanka OJSC carried out current repairs and installation of more than 15 thousand showers,
And after a couple of years it turns out that again this "Slavyanka" took away several lards. Or vice versa. Can we hope that while the showdown is going on in the UK, everything will be all right?

[radioman]

Dear Jayich, don't be nervous. It's just that the community is trying to figure out the topic. You, as I understand it, are the representatives of the contractor involved in the installation of these booths.
I will explain my question about paying for water. The limits on the source of financing from which the payment for the communal apartment will take place are formed in advance, in the previous year (the limit for 2014 will be formed in 2013). Existing practice provides for financing within the framework of the current year, taking into account the diflator (inflation coefficient). So the question is - an increase in the cost of paying for water and sewage in connection with the installation of cabins is provided?
The fact that you purchase and install everything is beyond doubt. The operation of this equipment raises a question. I myself work in one of the state corporations, and so - after the outsourcing staff takes outsourcing, to find a living plumber we have a big problem.

[jayich]

Yes, it’s already laid down in those passports of military towns and drains and electricity, etc. plus to the service tariff for 2014 under the state contract.
The operation is just not a problem in this matter especially I do not see.
On the first call, and we eliminate the problems that have arisen, as in everything else, there are certainly certain difficulties with the purchase of expensive equipment, for example, a pump requires a very large amount of paper, but any little thing is much easier to purchase and install
A little is not so formed, but on the whole it’s true not just for a year, but for the duration of the state contract. per 1 sq.m, for example, 20 rubles in 2013; 26 rubles in 2015.

[kind]

The question is not worth a damn. Is that a problem? !! Vasiliev stole so much that each soldier can build a separate bath.