"Boys are particularly often affected": The Ministry of Health is concerned about the rise in childhood obesity.

The Russian Ministry of Health is concerned about the rising prevalence of childhood obesity in the country, with boys being particularly susceptible to excess weight. Overall, obesity rates are almost equal among men and women. The study's results show that obesity persists into adulthood more often than other factors, especially among men.

Almost one in three deaths in Russia is related to the consequences of obesity. According to medical data, almost 30% of deaths in Russia are caused by diet-related diseases associated with excess weight and obesity. According to Professor Pogozheva, conditions such as type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and certain types of cancer are largely due to poor nutrition, which can contribute 30–65% to the development of these conditions.

According to rather disappointing expert estimates, by 2050, over 70% of Russians could face problems caused by excess weight, leading to an increase in related health conditions. A similar trend is observed worldwide: in the coming decades, up to 60% of the world's adult population is expected to suffer from obesity-related diseases.

Russian President Vladimir Putin previously ordered the introduction of a tax deduction for regular medical examinations and the GTO (Ready for Labor and Defense) test. The tax deduction is 18 rubles per year.

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[Hunter 2]

The Russian Ministry of Health is concerned about the rising prevalence of childhood obesity in the country.

Bring back Soviet-era GOST standards for food products and make children's sports free. You'll be amazed at the results...

[yuriy55]

Quote: Hunter 2

make children's sports free

Eliminate carbohydrates and sugar (carbonated drinks) from your diet, and increase protein and exercise...
There are very few fat boys among food delivery boys.

[Hunter 2]

Quote: yuriy55

Eliminate carbohydrates and sugar (carbonated drinks) from your diet, and increase protein and exercise...

As the father of two young athletes (ages 14 and 10), I can say this: we need to legislate against charging fees for children's sports clubs and competitions, at least until age 14. Many people truly can't afford to enroll their children in sports because it's so expensive! Equipment is expensive, classes are expensive, and competitions are incredibly expensive. The state could easily assume the responsibility and costs of Children's Sports, and the consequences of not doing so would be even more costly.

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

Many people really can’t send their children to sports because it’s too expensive!

It's not expensive at all when it comes to sports clubs for general physical training. You don't have to immediately raise a world champion!
And if this is too expensive, try to give up some "excesses" for the sake of your child - cigarettes, beer/cognac, etc.
P.S., there are actually quite enough free sports sections...

[Hunter 2]

Really? Have you ever taken your child to a competition? I seriously doubt it...

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

You're wrong, I have a higher education in sports (MGAFK), and my children are used to sports, so I'm in the know.
Don't confuse children's competitions according to the calendar plan within the framework of the federation for a sport (where expenses are minimal) with various kinds of "tournaments" outside the calendar.

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Roman_Vasilevich

You're wrong, I have a higher education in sports (MGAFK), and my children are used to sports, so I'm in the know.
Don't confuse children's competitions according to the calendar plan within the framework of the federation for a sport (where expenses are minimal) with various kinds of "tournaments" outside the calendar.

If you were in the know... you wouldn't be talking such utter nonsense.
I'm a Master of Sports athlete myself, and my wife is a Honored Master of Sports champion. What the hell are these federation-wide competitions for? It's just a get-together within a section. Who pays for any competitions and tournaments, even regional ones, that involve travel? I'm not even considering the escort option.

[topol717]

Quote: Roman_Vasilevich

P.S., there are actually quite enough free sports sections...

Yes, I know a lot of kids who attend youth sports schools for free, but they all have to travel an hour or more to get there. Although the situation may be different in smaller towns.

[Zamira]

Quote: Roman_Vasilevich

There are actually quite a few free sports sections...

Let's assume so. It's doubtful, but I won't argue, although this "quite" still requires some calculations.
From personal experience, I can say that my grandson played hockey in a paid section, and he loved it. But his parents couldn't afford it anymore, so the classes stopped. I think if there were a free option (even relatively) nearby, no one would refuse. But let's assume that this is an isolated case.
But what about food products? Aren't GOST standards necessary?

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

But what about food products? Aren't GOST standards necessary?

Forget about GOSTs
Parental supervision of nutrition is required!
Soviet lemonade was no less sugary, and "grandmother's buns," both then and now, are quite high in calories...

[Perpetually]

It's all about McDonald's chips and other Western crap. It's time to put "Obesity Kills" signs on the tables at Vkusno, period, and print scary pictures on the packaging and cups. It's not just smokers who should suffer from this kind of idiocy.

[topol717]

I agree with you that all children's sports should be free, but sports aren't about health. Sports, especially professional ones, are deadly.

[Hunter 2]

What does professional sports have to do with this? I'm writing about children's sports.
And professional sports don't kill, yeah. .

[topol717]

Quote: Hunter 2

What does professional sports have to do with this? I'm writing about children's sports.

In children's sports, coaches are usually former athletes. They work themselves to the bone. That's the only way to win and achieve anything. It has nothing to do with health.

[topol717]

Quote: yuriy55

There are very few fat boys among food delivery boys.

Our food delivery people all ride electric mopeds. I wouldn't say they move around much.

Quote: yuriy55

Eliminate carbohydrates and sugar (carbonated drinks) from your diet

You won't believe it, but everyone knows this, just like everyone knows that smoking is harmful. Yet people stubbornly buy a pack of cigarettes for 100 rubles.

[Montezuma]

Quote from: topol717

You won't believe it, but everyone knows this, just like everyone knows that smoking is harmful. Yet people stubbornly buy a pack of cigarettes for 100 rubles.

Despite medical warnings and the frightening pictures on cigarette packs, I've noticed a rise in women smoking, especially in the retail industry.

[topol717]

Quote: Montezuma

I have noticed that there are a lot of women smoking, especially in the trade sector.

At our work, almost all the women smoke, and only one man. There are 17 people on the team, and the ratio is about 50/50.

[Melior]

Smoking woman cums doggy style!

[Montezuma]

Quote: yuriy55

Eliminate carbohydrates and sugar (carbonated drinks) from your diet, and increase protein and exercise...

And also limit uncontrolled social media use, which crowds out the desire to read books and exercise. But that's a parental responsibility. I remember back in the day, all schoolchildren socialized in the courtyards, and the activities were active, like soccer or lapta. And yes, there were plenty of free clubs and interest groups—just show up and sign up. Incidentally, even back then, children had access to sweets, but with an active lifestyle, all those carbohydrates were burned off through regular muscle activity—there weren't many overweight kids.

[Zamira]

Quote: Hunter 2

Bring back Soviet-era GOST standards for food products and make children's sports free. You'll be amazed at the results...

I agree! Absolutely, categorically, and irrevocably!!!!)

[topol717]

Quote: Hunter 2

Bring back Soviet-era GOST standards for food products and make children's sports free. You'll be amazed at the results...

Obesity mostly affects adults. Soviet-era standards won't help, and no one will buy that food; it won't be palatable for most people. Those standards also contained a lot of sugar. And all the cookies were full of margarine, which slowly clogs blood vessels. So don't think everything was so good in the USSR. Science never stands still.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from: topol717

margarine in all cookies

And if you look at the Soviet GOST standard for that margarine, the hair on your veins will stand on end.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hunter 2

Bring back Soviet-era GOST standards for food products and make children's sports free.

What does GOST have to do with obesity? There's plenty of free children's sports available right now. Again, sports aren't necessary to avoid obesity—physical education is more than enough. And, of course, keeping an eye on your bread slicer, because that's the most important thing.

Quote: Hunter 2

Many people really can’t send their children to sports because it’s too expensive.

By the way, what sport exactly are you referring to? There are different kinds of sports.

[Hunter 2]

Quote from: nik-mazur

What does GOST have to do with obesity? There's plenty of free children's sports available right now. Again, sports aren't necessary to avoid obesity—physical education is more than enough. And, of course, keeping an eye on your bread slicer, because that's the most important thing.
By the way, what sport exactly are you referring to? There are different kinds of sports.

I won't cover all the food GOST standards, but let's use one example. Let's take the GOST for chocolate (the topic is about children): cocoa butter couldn't be substituted with alternatives, that is, vegetable and animal fats, but now it can. I don't think I need to explain that they often use the cheapest substitutes.
Although in the USSR, since 1969, they would like to change many things in food GOST standards, since that year they began to use palm oil.
Sports, by example: my son practices Greco-Roman wrestling and hand-to-hand combat (he's a first-class athlete in both), has started competing in Sambo tournaments, and plans to try MMA. My daughter swims, like her mother.
I would like to add one more thing: how does the homeland plan to train sports shooters, given the current Law on Weapons? I teach mine "underground." If a child is caught with a weapon, the minimum penalty for the gun owner is a fine and the loss of his license.
Tyumen has a world-class biathlon center. I often watch training sessions (near the dacha). The training with air guns and on shooting simulators is nothing but laughable. Incidentally, my fellow countrywomen, Olympic Champions and Heroes of Russia Akhatova and Kukleva, and Olympic Champion Shipulin, have been trying to reach out to the authorities, so far to no avail.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hunter 2

Let's take the GOST for chocolate... cocoa butter could not be replaced with analogues, that is, vegetable and animal fats, now it can be

So, does this somehow affect the BJU?
In fact, if you eat kilos of chocolate, you'll still gain weight, no matter what kind of butter you use. And to avoid gaining weight, you need to watch your food intake first and foremost—GOST standards have nothing to do with it.

Quote: Hunter 2

Sports, by example

To avoid getting fat, physical exercise is more than enough - walking, horizontal bars, kicking and throwing a ball in the yard - serious, competitive sports are excessive for this.

[Hunter 2]

Quote from: nik-mazur

To avoid getting fat, physical exercise is more than enough - walking, horizontal bars, kicking and throwing a ball in the yard - serious, competitive sports are excessive for this.

So what's the conclusion? Shouldn't we support children's sports (at least until age 14)? Should they be paid for? Finish your thought.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Hunter 2

Well, what's the conclusion?

The conclusion is simple: to avoid gaining weight, you need to eat less and exercise more. This is generally true, although there are, of course, unusual cases.
And sport is a completely separate issue that has nothing to do with obesity.

[Hunter 2]

Quote from: nik-mazur

And sport is a completely separate issue that has nothing to do with obesity.

But…
- "And now, dear radio listeners, we begin our morning exercises."

[srelock]

Quote: Hunter 2

Bring back Soviet-era GOST standards for food products and make children's sports free. You'll be amazed at the results... am

Stop eating and just do some exercise.
You will not only be surprised by the result, but you will also save money.

[Wratch]

Magical palm oil and other undoubtedly delicious additives. The Ministry of Health hasn't addressed them? So what?

[topol717]

Quote from Wratch

Magical palm oil and other undoubtedly delicious additives. The Ministry of Health hasn't addressed them? So what?

Palm oil is no different from sunflower oil except for the price. It's just half the price. Margarine is a joke. There's something else: hydrogen-treated vegetable oil. Be it sunflower, palm, or olive oil.

[Montezuma]

Quote from Wratch

Magical palm oil and other undoubtedly delicious additives.

Regular edible palm oil can be consumed in small quantities, although it contains more saturated fat than sunflower oil. Industrial palm oil is truly harmful (it's used in the production of lubricants and soap and shouldn't be consumed), but its low cost encourages some manufacturers to use it. Roskontrol is responsible for inspecting these products, removing them from sale, and penalizing the manufacturers.

[Brturin]

A team of US researchers conducted a study and found that low income and poor education lead to obesity. This was reported in the journal Pediatric Obesity. https://www.gazeta.ru/science/news/2016/08/26/n_9044015.shtml?utm_auth=false

According to Rosstat, 20,9 million people in Russia fell below the poverty line in the first quarter of 2022. According to Khatsiev, approximately 30 percent of the working-age population in Russia is obese. He also noted that the poorer the country, the more citizens are susceptible to obesity. https://lenta.ru/news/2022/06/17/fat/

[Alexander X]

Free children's sports clubs everywhere, increasing the number of children's sports clubs, and enforcing old food standards. Ensuring children's safety outside, on sports grounds, and elsewhere without parental supervision will reduce the threat of obesity among the younger generation.

[topol717]

Quote: Alexander X

old GOSTs for food products.

Do you know how much margarine these GOST standards allowed in regular cookies? And then there were just clogged arteries.

[ingvar1951]

Americans have been dealing with this for a long time. The reason is pizza parlors, McDonald's, and other fast-food joints, as well as sugary drinks. Thanks to Gorbachev, he brought this crap to the USSR.

[nik-mazur]

Quote: ingvar1951

Thanks to Gorbachev, he dragged this crap into the USSR.

If the people didn't want this crap, then no one would have brought it in.

[Alexander X]

Quote from: topol717

Quote: Alexander X

old GOSTs for food products.

Do you know how much margarine these GOST standards allowed in regular cookies? And then there were just clogged arteries.

I can say that when I was young (during the era of developed socialism), everyone, from the youngest to the oldest, ate cookies. But practically all the kids also participated in some kind of sports club. For example, in Moscow, in the Vodny Stadion-Rechnoy Vokzal metro area (where I lived at the time), the entire bank of the Moscow Canal was occupied by sports clubs. Water sports, cycling, gymnastics... right down to gorodki (skid-style play). And all the teenagers attended these clubs, snacking on cookies after school (really). And all the clubs were free. In fact, they even provided equipment: oars, skis, bikes... And at competitions, they even provided special food rations (by the way, they even had cookies. They were delicious with condensed milk), and sports camps were open to everyone... And I don't recall a single fat kid in our circle.
Now, residential complexes and banks have been built along these banks. And instead of the artificial ice running track at the Vodny Stadium, there's now an office center with numerous buildings. But there are more and more fatties among the young people.

[Alf]

According to rather disappointing expert estimates, by 2050, more than 70% of Russian residents may face problems caused by excess body weight, which will lead to an increase in associated diseases.

It's strange, why would this happen?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Alf

why would this happen suddenly?

Take a look at the Soviet GOST standard for cooked sausage and shudder:

GOST 23670-79

COOKED SAUSAGES, SAUSAGES AND WINNERS, MEAT BREADS

2.2a. In the production of cooked sausages, frankfurters and meat loaves, enterprises of the USSR State Agro-Industrial Committee are permitted to use

buffalo meat, yak meat;
buffalo, trimmed yak meat;
frozen blocks of trimmed meat (beef, pork, lamb) and offal;
frozen meat blocks approved for use by the USSR Ministry of Health;

raw beef tallow;
raw pork fat;

processed offal (beef and pork tongues and brains);
food blood;
hemoglobin preparation;

egg powder according to GOST 30363, GOST 30364.0, GOST 30364.1, GOST 30364.2;
skim cow's milk powder according to GOST 10970;
potato starch in accordance with GOST 7699, not lower than the first grade;
baking wheat flour according to GOST 26574, not lower than the first grade;

sodium nitrite (sodium nitrite) according to GOST 4197;
sodium nitrite (sodium nitrite) grade OSCH-7-3;
hydrated crystalline glucose according to GOST 975;
food sorbitol;
food xylitol;
sodium tripolyphosphate according to GOST 13493;
monosubstituted sodium phosphate 2-water according to GOST 245;
trisubstituted sodium pyrophosphate;
sodium ascorbic acid;
sodium ascorbate approved for use by the USSR Ministry of Health;
ascorbic acid according to GF-X;
sodium bicarbonate (bicarbonate) according to GOST 2156;
anhydrous sodium carbonate in accordance with GOST 83;
sodium carbonate 10-water according to GOST 84;
smoking preparation VNIIMP;

beef casings according to GOST 13459;
beef circles according to GOST 13460;
beef piglets according to GOST 13461;
beef feedthroughs according to GOST 16335;
beef urinary bladders according to GOST 16333;
pig urinary bladders according to GOST 17286;
pork casings according to GOST 16402;
calibrated lamb casings according to GOST 15084;
ram bungs according to GOST 16406;

By the way, the bluebottles, casings, circles and passages are parts of the intestine.
And no problem, they gobbled it up and praised it, fortunately, the Soviet labels didn't list the ingredients in detail.

[Alf]

True. But besides sodium, modern "sausage" also contains half the periodic table. But that's the GOST standard from 79, when food supplies in the country became scarce. Could we have the GOST standard before 79?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Alf

Besides sodium, modern "sausage" also contains half of the periodic table

How do you know this?

Quote: Alf

Is it possible to have GOST standards up to 79?

Surely it's possible. But I doubt it will be anything fundamentally different.

[Alf]

Quote from: nik-mazur

How do you know this?

Did you look at my photo carefully?

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Alf

The photo was looked at carefully

Quite. Nothing criminal:
SODIUM NITRITE
SODIUM ACETATES
SODIUM ALGINATE
SODIUM GLUTAMATE
SODIUM ISOASCORBATE
GLUCONO-DELTA-LACTONE
PYROPHOSPHATES
CALCIUM SULFATE
GUMMIARBIK
GUAR AND XANTHAN GUMS
CARMINE DYE.
Mostly standard and long-used sodium salts of organic acids. Pyrophosphates are used as an emulsifier. Calcium sulfate is, roughly speaking, the limescale in a kettle. Gum arabic and gums are a type of water-soluble tree resin. Carmine is an organic dye.
By the way, have you looked at the Soviet GOST standard? It's basically the same, if not worse.

[Alf]

Quote from: nik-mazur

It's the same there

Well, let it be the same...

[nik-mazur]

Quote: Alf

let it be the same.

So this is a fact, not a matter of assumption.

[K_4]

It's not just sports clubs...there are no clubs left with any special interests. I used to go to boating and aircraft modeling clubs. Now there are none at all. Children aren't even given technical development. And those that exist are slowly shrinking and closing because they have fees, and people have less and less money. The only free club nearby is hockey, but they barely even got one group together this year because it turned out to be, so to speak, "conditionally free." Buy a uniform, buy it, bribe the coach, otherwise you'll only get on the ice during breaks, trips are all at your parents' expense, and so on and so forth.

[sdivt]

It's surprising... we're adults, but we seriously assure each other that the only thing we need to fight obesity is sports and children's clubs.

just for information
The average Big Mac contains about 500–520 calories.
To get rid of this "fuel", the child will need:
- swimming (active, crawl): ~55–65 minutes
- jump rope (high tempo): ~40–50 minutes
- running (at a speed of about 10–12 km/h): ~45–55 minutes
Submitted?
Easy?
So it's just a Big Mac
A pack of chips, 100g - up to 600-700 kcal
Pizza, 2-3 slices - the same amount
A piece of cake, 150g - the same
Examples can be given endlessly.
Always keep these examples in mind when your child grabs a bag of chips and a bottle of cola and goes to his room.

[nik-mazur]

Quote from sdivt

The average Big Mac is about 500-520 kcal... to get rid of this "fuel", a child will need

To burn 500 kcal, it is enough to simply sleep for eight hours, without moving at all.
The problem with obesity isn't calorie intake per se, but rather a calorie surplus. In principle, you could live on cakes alone and not gain weight if you maintain a balance between energy intake and energy expenditure. Although this ultimately isn't healthy either, but from a different perspective.

[sdivt]

Quote from: nik-mazur

To burn 500 kcal, it is enough to simply sleep for eight hours, without moving at all.

The figure is absolutely correct!
But the approach itself is wrong)
We initially assume that the child sleeps regularly, for 8 hours, and without this doping in the form of unhealthy food?
We believe. And we mean that the body is in balance; how much it takes in (breakfasts/lunches/dinners) is how much it spends.
And suddenly an unplanned bag of chips falls on the child.
He won't eat it instead of lunch, right? He'll eat it somewhere, in the yard, after school, near the computer, or somewhere else. And he certainly won't count the calories; he'll eat as many as are in the package. So it turns out he's gotten hundreds (!) of unaccounted calories, in addition to his regular food! And at night, he'll sleep just like every other night.
And where will the extra calories go?
Hello, first step towards obesity...

The problem with obesity isn't calorie intake per se, but rather a calorie surplus. In principle, you could live on cakes alone.

And so and not so.
Maintaining a calorie balance is correct.
Cakes (and any pastries, baked goods, etc.) are fast carbohydrates. They require immediate action from the body to be eliminated.
Or - another step towards obesity...
It's all simple)

[nik-mazur]

Quote from sdivt

An unplanned bag of chips falls on the child.

If a child (and not only them) is hit with unplanned calories in the form of a bowl of buckwheat, the result will be exactly the same. The key word is unplanned. Or, more accurately, unnecessary.

Quote from sdivt

Cakes (and any pastries, baked goods, etc.) are fast carbohydrates. They require immediate action from the body to be eliminated.

If these fast-burning calories aren't burned quickly, they can end up in fat stores, but if you're in a deficit due to physical activity, they'll be extracted from there just as quickly. If you're completely inactive, however, the fast-burning carbohydrates can end up as fat, and your energy will be extracted from your muscles. The result is what's called a "fat skinny," as it's called in bodybuilding jargon—a person who isn't outwardly fat, but is actually very weak due to a lack of muscle.
In fact, physical activity is needed precisely to preserve muscle in conditions of a calorie deficit, and not to burn calories, as many believe.
In fact, to burn significant calories through exercise, you need to be at the level of a candidate master of sports or higher. And casual gym visits (especially without a trainer) are a drop in the bucket compared to the daily calorie expenditure.
Yes, and an incorrect balance of proteins, fats, and carbohydrates can cause health problems even with a normal amount of calories in general.

[sdivt]

Quote from: nik-mazur

Physical activity is needed precisely to preserve muscle in conditions of a calorie deficit, and not to burn calories... to noticeably burn calories through physical exercise, you need to work hard at the level of candidate master of sports and above

I completely agree with you here!
In short, in one phrase:
- a gym (gym, etc.) - to maintain tone, and weight - is regulated by nutrition

[nik-mazur]

Quote from sdivt

gym (gym, etc.) - to maintain tone, and weight - is regulated by nutrition

Well, yes. And knowledgeable trainers immediately say that the key to both weight loss and muscle gain is proper nutrition, then adequate sleep, and only then exercise, which won't yield results without the first two steps. In fact, it can actually be harmful if you eat poorly and don't recover properly.

[Million]

The products are crap. The government is not to blame.

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

The Ministry of Health is concerned about the rise in childhood obesity.

From the "notes" of MAYAKovsky:

Listen
dads!
Listen
Moms!
Pretty
hoard
fat grams!

Earlier -
muscle,
iron,
running.
Was an athlete
any person!
And now?
Look at this child:
Him
no yard,
no ball
do not.

Huddled in a corner,
grabbed the gadget -
Like a sofa
glued
ointment.
Eyes -
into the monitor,
into the game,
in social networks
They die in pixels
our children!

In the right palm -
smartphone carcass,
On the left -
with fizz
sticky mug.
It flows into the stomach
sugar poison,
The teeth are rotting,
and the cheeks are hanging!

He sank his chest,
bloated belly,
As if
in the pillow
changed my shoes.
Short of breath at ten!
At twelve - belly!
Life for a child is
a heavy burden.

No, don't wait
son
to hit on the back of the neck,
Look at yourself,
on your gravy!
Dad -
like a closet,
stuffed with dough,
Mother -
it won't budge
from a soft spot.

If the father
sprouted into the couch
How to expect
jump from the baby?
If the example is -
sausage in dough,
You will rot.
in obesity
together!

Throw away the soda!
Spit out the bun!
All of them -
on the horizontal bar!
All of them -
for a walk!
So that it doesn't grow
jelly generation,
Become
athlete
in your family!

[Romanenko]

If everything is made from palm oil, which, by the way, perfectly "warms the hands" of certain people, then in the end we get that very DELICIOUS.... PERIOD!!!