Machine gun in the back as a political myth

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Machine gun in the back as a political myth


There's a song that's been sung to guitar accompaniment in Moscow kitchens since the Khrushchev thaw. The lyrics are simple, terrifying, and memorable:



"This company was advancing through the swamp,
And then she was ordered and she went back.
This company in forty-third
"He shot at the barrier detachment with machine guns."

Good song for the kitchen. Bad. story for the archive.

Where does myth come from?


Any myth is fueled not by pure invention, but by half-truths. Blocking detachments existed. Executions existed. Order 227 of July 28, 1942, known in history as "Not one step back!", existed. From these three facts, it's easy to piece together a picture of total terror behind the backs of Soviet soldiers. The only question is how much of this picture is true, and how much was added later, from memory, hatred, or political necessity.

Summer 1942. The Germans broke through to the Volga. Rostov fell in two days. Stalingrad was under threat. People's Commissar of Defense Stalin signed an order that was read aloud in all units, before the formation. The order was harsh, almost desperate in its tone. It contained a phrase that would be cited for decades: barrier detachments were instructed "in the event of panic and disorderly withdrawal of units, to shoot panickers and cowards on the spot."

An entire mythology has grown out of this phrase. The mythology works simply: an official permit to shoot is taken and inflated into a picture of machine gunners methodically mowing down retreating regiments. The further from the archives, the more terrifying the picture.

But let's take the documents.

What does the General Staff report say?


From August 1 to October 15, 1942, that is, over two and a half months of operation amidst the fiercest fighting near Stalingrad, blocking detachments detained 140,755 soldiers who had fled from the front lines. This is a significant number. Of these:

Arrested: 3,980 people.
Shot: 1,189 people.
Sent to penal companies: 2,776 people.
Sent to penal battalions: 185 people.
131,094 people were returned to their units and transit points.

131,094 out of 140,755 sent back to fight. Not to be expelled. Not to be court-martialed. Back to the front, with weapons in their hands. This is 93 percent of those detained.

1,189 people were executed. That's 0,84 percent. Less than one in a hundred.

Numbers don't make war look better or humane. The war was brutal. People were shot. There were penal battalions where people were sent to die. But the "blocking detachments in the back" as a system of mass destruction of one's own troops, as a mechanism that ground down entire companies and battalions with machine-gun fire, doesn't stand up to even a second of exposure to the original document.

Let's return once again to the period from the beginning of the war to October 10, 1941. Special departments of the NKVD and blocking detachments detained 657,364 military personnel. Of these, 25,878 were arrested. The remaining 632,486, almost all, were formed into units and sent to the front. 10,201 were executed by order of special departments and tribunals. 3,321 were executed in front of the formation, as a deterrent.

War is war, and I won't pretend that 10 executed people don't exist. They do. It's a tragedy. But not the tragedy they sang about in the kitchen.

What is a barrier detachment really?


The very word "zagrad" has become inexorably attached to the image of a punitive detachment standing behind soldiers with machine guns at the ready. It's an image from a movie. A bad movie.

The directive of the Third Directorate of the People's Commissariat of Defense of June 27, 1941, issued on the fourth day of the war, describes the tasks of the barrier detachments as follows: to detain deserters, detain suspicious elements near the front line, conduct a preliminary investigation within one to two days, and hand over those detained to the appropriate authorities.

No machine guns fired at our own. Detention. Investigation. Trial.

As the situation worsened, their powers were expanded. Special departments were given the authority to arrest deserters and, if necessary, execute them on the spot. But in military reality, "necessary circumstances" meant not a company fleeing its positions, but a specific individual caught under specific circumstances.

The history of the barrier detachment of the 3rd Division of the Red Banner Baltic is indicative. fleetFrom the beginning of the war until November 22, 1941, this detachment detained over 900 people. 77 were arrested and convicted. Eleven were shot on the spot or in front of the line. The rest were sent back.

Meanwhile, in the battle for Tallinn, this same barrier detachment lost over 60 percent of its personnel, including almost all of its commanders. First, they held back the retreating troops and returned them to their positions. Then, they took up defensive positions themselves. Then, they died. This doesn't fit the image of cowardly executioners behind someone else's back.

During the defense of Stalingrad, a barrier detachment of the 62nd Army, commanded by Lieutenant of State Security Khlystov, held the line on the approaches to a key height for four days, repelling attacks by German machine gunners. On September 15-16, another barrier detachment fought for two days against superior enemy forces near the Stalingrad railway station. It only withdrew when units of the 10th Rifle Division arrived.

Regular unit commanders viewed the barrier detachments as combat units and sent them into attacks alongside line infantry. For this, they were reprimanded: the barrier detachments lost up to 70 percent of their strength, were reorganized, and their barrier duties were abandoned. The army commanders' logic was clear: they were dealing with seasoned, proven fighters. They used them as best they could.

Voices from the other shore


Army General and Hero of the Soviet Union Pavel Lashchenko stated this directly:

"Yes, there were barrier detachments. But I don't know of any of them firing on their own, at least not on our section of the front. I've already requested archival documents on this matter, but none have been found. The barrier detachments were stationed at a distance from the front lines, covering the troops from the rear against saboteurs and enemy landings, detaining deserters, which, unfortunately, existed; they maintained order at the crossings, and directed soldiers separated from their units to assembly points."

Academician Kirill Kondratyev, a front-line soldier, spoke even more briefly:

"I'm really shocked by such lies. I don't know of any blocking units. I've never seen anything like that in my experience. We pushed forward ourselves, and no one pushed us."


Mansur Abdulin fought at Stalingrad as a volunteer in the 293rd Rifle Division. His memoirs are interesting because he doesn't deny the existence of barrier detachments or executions. But he also describes something else:

"What if ours Tanks, and behind them, the skiers—the blocking detachment. Well, I think, here it is, death! A young Estonian captain comes up to me. "Take the greatcoat from the dead man," he says, "you'll catch a cold..."

Death turned out to be a captain with a greatcoat.

Why were food stations organized at the barrier detachments?


There's one document in the archives that, in my opinion, speaks volumes beyond any argument. A decree of the Leningrad Front Military Council dated September 18, 1941, signed by Zhukov and Zhdanov, ordered the establishment of "feeding stations" within the barrier detachments.

Feeding stations at barrier detachments. If the goal was to execute, why feed the detainees? The answer is obvious to anyone looking at the document without a predetermined verdict: most of the detainees were supposed to be fed, checked, and returned to fight. And so it was.

Providing food for people who were about to be shot in the next few hours isn't just illogical. It's pointless from the perspective of the war effort, which was under mortal strain in 1941-1942. Every kilogram of flour was counted.

What happened to the myth after 1956?


After Stalin's death and Khrushchev's 1956 speech, a rethinking of the war began. This rethinking was necessary and appropriate. But, as often happens, the pendulum swung further than it should. The barrier detachments became the main symbol of Stalin's terror against his own army. The image took root in kitchen folklore, entered fiction, and then Western historiography.

The power of the myth is clear. It explained the catastrophe of 1941-1942 not by military and strategic failures, not by the army's lack of readiness, not by the Wehrmacht's tactical superiority, but by the moral failure of the regime. The soldiers, it was said, were unwilling to fight for Stalin, and executioners stood behind them. Victory was achieved despite, not because of.

This concept is convenient for several reasons. It exonerates everyone who fought poorly. It explains defeats as political, not military, in nature. And it fits into the narrative of total Soviet violence, which was very much needed by certain audiences during the Cold War.

The problem is that the numbers don't support the concept. At all.

How did filtration work?


When a blocking detachment detained a soldier, a process known in documents as filtration began. The detainee was questioned. The circumstances of his departure from his unit were determined. The answers were categorized: escaped encirclement, straggler, lost unit, fled the battlefield, returned from captivity, and self-inflicted rifleman.

This is an important detail. Breaking out of encirclement and fleeing the battlefield are listed as different things in 1942 documents. A person who escaped the German encirclement was checked for enemy agents and then sent to a unit or a special camp. A person who simply fell behind in the chaos of battle was most often sent back immediately.

From a report from the Special Department of the NKVD of the Stalingrad Front, dated August 14, 1942, regarding the 4th Tank Army: of the 363 detained, 93 escaped encirclement, 146 were separated from their units, 52 lost their units, 12 were captured, 54 fled the battlefield, and two had questionable wounds. As a result of the investigation, 187 were sent back to their units, 43 to the recruitment department, 73 to special camps, 27 to penal companies, two to a medical examination, six were arrested, and 24 were executed in front of the formation.

Of the 363 men, 24 were executed. Just under seven percent, and this was during the most brutal fighting, in an army that had just been retreating for several months. Of those 363, more than half returned to duty immediately, and the rest after being refitted.

Legend versus report


There is something I want to say directly, without hiding behind neutral constructions.

The legend of the barrier detachments as a machine for exterminating their own army isn't built on falsifying facts. It's built on a selective interpretation. They take a real order, take a real fact of executions, take the real cruelty of wartime, and from this they assemble a picture in which everything else disappears. The 131,094 men who returned to duty disappear. The barrier detachments that held the heights near Stalingrad for four days disappear. The Estonian captain with the greatcoat disappears.

The war was monstrous. The Soviet system of army command had its harsh characteristics. This requires no justification or mitigation. But history demands precision. Precision tells us this: the blocking detachments were detained first, checked, and returned to their units. They were executed last, and the statistics confirm this with such clarity that the archival document allows for no other interpretation.

General Lashchenko requested documents confirming friendly fire. None were found. Neither he nor other researchers found a single documented case in Soviet archives of a blocking detachment opening fire to kill on retreating units as a mass target.

November 1944 years


On October 29, 1944, People's Commissar of Defense Stalin signed Order No. 0349 on the disbandment of separate barrier detachments. The wording is succinct:

“Due to the change in the general situation on the fronts, the need to further maintain barrier detachments has disappeared.”

By then, the army was advancing. There was no one to detain. Several months before their official disbandment, the barrier detachments had long been guarding headquarters, patrolling roads, and repairing boots for rear-echelon officers, for which they were criticized in a special report from the Political Directorate of the 3rd Baltic Front in August 1944. The formidable military institution quietly transformed into commandant companies.

This in itself is eloquent. If the blocking detachments had been a terror machine, organically necessary to the regime to keep the army in obedience through fear, they would not have been disbanded amidst victories. They were disbanded because they were solving a specific military problem under the specific conditions of a catastrophic retreat. The problem was solved. The detachments left.

What remains


I'm not in the business of rehabilitation. It's impossible to rehabilitate war. We can only understand it more precisely.

Order 227 was issued at a time when the Soviet army was retreating to the Volga, when Rostov fell almost without a fight, and when the command understood that a few more weeks of this and the defense would collapse completely. Under these circumstances, the order demanding that positions be held under penalty of death was not a whim, but a desperate tool of military command, similar to those used by various armies of different countries in various wars.

The question isn't whether the barrier detachments were a humane institution. They weren't. The question is whether they were what the kitchen legend portrays them to be. The answer, as the archival documents reveal, is unequivocal: no.

Of the 140,755 detained soldiers, 131,094 were returned to fight. They weren't hunted down. They were stopped, checked, fed at transit points, and sent back to the front lines. It was these men, many of whom had been held captive by the barrier detachments, who reached Berlin.

A song about a company machine-gunned by its own blocking detachment fits well with three chords. An archival report from the General Staff doesn't fit chords at all. But it tells the story of what really happened. And that, I think, is worth more.
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  1. + 36
    April 22 2026 05: 20
    Where does myth come from?

    From the film "Penal Battalion".
    Films like "Penal Battalion," "A Boy's Word," and "Brigade" have done a terrible thing in people's minds, completely reformatting the thinking of people, especially young people... I would send those who did this to Kolyma for 20 years to drain the swamps.
    Now we are dealing with this ideological sabotage in full.
    1. + 18
      April 22 2026 05: 42
      Hi Aleksey.
      The author touched upon only part of the topic.
      Blocking detachments have always existed; recall the formation of a Roman legion in the early Republic: velites, hostati, patricians, and tercii. The latter were veterans with spears, so that the former would hold the line. In Russia, the term "blocking detachment" appeared under Peter the Great, primarily consisting of dragoons. The purpose was to prevent panic and "flight."
      I could go on and on, but the main thing to understand is that having a unit with the functions of filtering, securing the rear, and preventing desertion is essential. This is true in any army.
      1. +6
        April 22 2026 05: 54
        Hello Vladislav! hi
        There have always been barrier detachments,

        Of course there were... but the way they show it in our films is complete crap...
        Watch the movie "Boo-ga-ga" ... it evokes nothing but disgust.
        Or the Hollywood film "Enemy at the Gates".
        Sometimes I really regret that I'm not Malyuta Skuratov...
        1. +2
          April 22 2026 06: 02
          Quote: The same Lech

          Of course there were... but the way it's shown in our films is...

          Well, on the other hand, thinking that the barrier detachments handed out candy and flowers is also naive, especially considering that the participants were armed, and the people there were different. There are many memories of completely different directions: from participating in battles together, to real executions of those who tried to leave their positions without orders.
          1. +5
            April 22 2026 06: 09
            Well, on the other hand, it’s also naive to think that the barrier detachments handed out sweets and flowers,

            Everything happened...but there were never any mass shootings of military personnel.
            Each case was examined separately.
            The famous intelligence officer Karpov told how he ended up in a penal company, punching some officer in the face for insulting words...a completely different picture.
            They shot deserters there when they tried to escape to the Germans...that happened.
            1. -7
              April 22 2026 06: 19
              What is a mass shooting, in your opinion? What's that like, firing on a penal company abandoning its positions without permission? Such cases have happened. How you defined it as a mass shooting is simply beyond me.
              Incidentally, there is no confirmation of executions of penal battalions, which were formed exclusively from officers and political workers.
              1. +6
                April 22 2026 14: 37
                Penal battalions were formed exclusively from officers! And there was one per army, or front, I don't remember exactly. Penal companies were formed from enlisted men and sergeants and there was one per division or army. It's clearly written in Order 227.
              2. +2
                April 23 2026 15: 55
                Well, facts, present the facts...
                What's that about firing on a penal company that's leaving its position without permission? Such incidents have happened.
                Where, who, when?
        2. +6
          April 22 2026 10: 00
          At training camp, they showed us the film "Gu Ga" about penal battalions... to boost morale. It was 1990, by the way.
          About how the barrier detachments fought in Stalingrad - here is an article about the defense of the "Stalingrad Castle", also known as the "Commissar's House".
          https://alternathistory.ru/stalingradskij-zamok-kak-zashhishhali-dom-komissarov/
          And what's most interesting is that after serving in penal units, soldiers were returned to duty without any marks in their documents. In similar cases, the Germans would put a "stigma" in their soldier's record book.
          1. Alf
            +2
            April 22 2026 18: 40
            Quote: Not the fighter
            In similar cases, the Germans would put a "stamp" in the soldier's book.

            In the Red Army, people were sent to penal units for a period of three months or until they were wounded, while in the Wehrmacht they were sent “until they were corrected.”
        3. +2
          April 23 2026 00: 27
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Watch the movie "Boo-ga-ga" ... it evokes nothing but disgust.

          There is no such film. There is Goo-ga, 1989, USSR.
        4. +2
          April 25 2026 12: 22
          The film was called "Goo-ga"
        5. 0
          April 28 2026 21: 13
          Not boo-ga, but Goo-Ga. That's the name of the film.
          Commander: We need to take a pillbox, better two.
          Out of action: Or better yet, three and conquer Germany!
      2. +6
        April 22 2026 07: 19
        There have always been barrier detachments; let's recall the formation of a Roman legion in the early republic: velites, hostati, patricians, and tercios. The latter were veterans with spears, so that the former would hold the line.

        Something new. What other blocking detachments are there in Rome? What tercios?
        In Rome, there were decimations as a disciplinary punishment for a military unit.
        The warriors of the last cohort of the legion were called in ancient Rome intelligentsia, i.e. “those who understand.”
        And tercios are Spanish tercios (tercio) - a tactical unit of the Spanish Empire during the era of Habsburg dominance in European battles in the 16th century and the first half of the 17th century.
        Officially, the tercios existed from 1534 to 1704, but in fact, from the very beginning of the 16th century until approximately the 1670s.
        1. +4
          April 22 2026 13: 47
          Printed - - triraria.
      3. +1
        April 22 2026 14: 11
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        velites, gostats, patricians and tercios


        If I remember correctly, the velites were skirmishers who withdrew behind the enemy lines (auxiliary troops). Next came the first line of hastati—younger troops and plebs who couldn't afford armor. The principes were heavy infantry before Marius's reforms and not always combat-experienced. The third line consisted of triarii (veteran heavy infantry spearmen). They weren't known for any defensive functions. They were the last resort in the worst-case scenario of a battle. "It came down to the triarii"—when things really got bad... hi
      4. +1
        April 22 2026 20: 34
        What a load of nonsense. Firstly, not tercios, but triarii. Secondly, spears weren't meant to hold their own, but to prevent the enemy from breaking through the hastati line and inflicting slaughter. They were the Roman commander's last, most reliable, and most valuable reserve, the one that could decide the outcome of a battle.
        1. 0
          April 23 2026 15: 02
          Quote: Kitun Evgeniy
          What a load of nonsense. Firstly, not tercios, but triarii. Secondly, spears weren't meant to hold their own, but to prevent the enemy from breaking through the hastati line and inflicting slaughter. They were the Roman commander's last, most reliable, and most valuable reserve, the one that could decide the outcome of a battle.

          So.
    2. + 16
      April 22 2026 06: 01
      Films such as "Penal Battalion," "The Word of a Boy," and "The Brigade"

      "Bastards" in the same piggy bank.
      1. +9
        April 22 2026 13: 13
        And The Last Armored Train is also there, and the apotheosis of this genre is Burnt by the Sun, 2-3 meters from the Russian cinema of Nikita Mikhalkov
    3. + 12
      April 22 2026 06: 35
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      From the film "Penal Battalion".
      Films like "Penal Battalion," "A Boy's Word," and "Brigade" have done a terrible thing in people's minds, reformatting the thinking of people, especially young people.

      There is another "masterpiece" series, "The Last Battle of Major Pugachev"
    4. + 15
      April 22 2026 07: 28
      All the war films made recently are utter nonsense. They're made according to Hollywood molds, with the inevitable slathering of dirt and completely unnecessary eroticism. Moral!
      1. +7
        April 22 2026 13: 42
        Quote: novel xnumx
        All the war films made recently are utter nonsense. They're made according to Hollywood molds, with the inevitable slathering of dirt and completely unnecessary eroticism. Moral!

        Why? For example, 28 Panfilov's men.
        1. Alf
          +2
          April 22 2026 18: 42
          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Quote: novel xnumx
          All the war films made recently are utter nonsense. They're made according to Hollywood molds, with the inevitable slathering of dirt and completely unnecessary eroticism. Moral!

          Why? For example, 28 Panfilov's men.

          So the film wasn't made by Mikhalkov or Bondarchuk.
        2. -3
          April 23 2026 19: 32
          Not only that. There's also "82 Panfilov's Men," which hasn't been filmed yet. But they will when they've completely lost track of military history and lost their historical bearings. lol
    5. +4
      April 22 2026 11: 10
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      From the film "Penal Battalion".

      To put it mildly, this is not true - this myth arose when Khrushchev needed to strengthen his power.
      He could only do this by covering it with blood and dirt. living Stalin's supporters in power. To achieve this, strictly according to the canons of propaganda (lies + truth + lies), the denigration of Stalin began. This song didn't originate in 2000 or the 1990s—it's been sung since the 1950s.
      To finally secure power for himself—or so he naively thought—Khrushchev organized the 20th Congress on the prepared ground. And then he was devoured...
      But Stalin was not rehabilitated and the results of the 20th Congress were not revised. And timid attempts like slightly rehabilitate, for example, with the film Liberation, etc. - further stratified the population
      The people, seeing this, began to lose trust in the government, which was expressed, among other things, by the display of portraits of Stalin as a sign of protest against the government.
      When the government completely lost the people's trust—1991 happened—the people refused to defend their people's government at all.

      It was straight sabotage in 1950-1990, then it became history
      1. +2
        April 22 2026 15: 36
        Okay, so this is all vile lies, sabotage, and deception. So I have a logical question for you. What about the veterans themselves? Who forced them to compose and sing such songs about something that never happened? Almost all men at the time were veterans of those very events. It's like the shortages and alcoholism in the late Soviet Union—now many communists are foaming at the mouth to prove that it never happened, but the jokes, anecdotes, and habits are still in vogue, 35 years later.
        Regarding protocols, reports, and other documents and how they relate to reality. Yes, according to the documents, 1% were executed for desertion, but that's just the documents. Could there have been cases where someone was shot in front of the formation, but the documents were filled out claiming they were killed in action? For those who don't remember, even Zhukov had an order for officers to "take care of the soldiers," and violating it could lead to very unpleasant consequences for the officer, but discipline must be maintained.
        P.S.: I'm not saying the NKVD would have shot everyone if they'd had their way. I'm just saying that the people saw and remembered everything; you can't force such things into their heads. And looking at statistics is a thankless task; there's nothing more deceitful than statistics. I also understand perfectly well why modern cinema is so fond of the evil commissars theme. And it's not because I can't live without slandering the communists (although that sometimes happens); it's a perfectly understandable ploy to make the hero even more heroic. After all, it even seemed like his own people were getting in his way! It's much worse when enemies are shown practically fraternizing, and that's precisely what wasn't shown in "Bastards," "Enemy at the Gates," or "Penal Battalion," unlike in more recent films...
        1. +2
          April 22 2026 19: 47
          Quote: parma
          And what about the veterans themselves? Who forced them to compose and sing such songs about something that never happened? After all, almost all the men at the time were veterans of those very events.

          1) firstly - было.
          2) I don't remember who I read about the battle - a veteran said, "We struck and destroyed an enemy regiment with an attached artillery battery," while the command said, "The attack on the enemy battalion ended in nothing - we retreated, and during the battle, two enemy guns were damaged."
          Is the difference noticeable?
          My grandfather told me, "They woke up the regiment (heavy howitzer artillery) early in the morning and set off. They went about 30 km and stopped near a village. An hour later, the order came and the regiment went back to the same village from which they left in the morning."
          Some of the veterans will remain silent, some will say - they just suffered through the day, some will say - #commandersareidiots.
          3) Every veteran is different. My neighbor spent the entire war in the commandant's office at the Samara railway station, and when word spread that they were going to Japan, he stuck his left pinky finger in the hitch.
          And for the rest of his life he called himself a war veteran and disabled person.
        2. -1
          April 26 2026 18: 56
          In the "Penal Battalion", drinking schnapps together, isn't that fraternization?
    6. +2
      April 23 2026 01: 38
      I don't know if they really scared the Red Army soldiers with barrier detachments at the beginning of the war, or if this fairy tale was created in later times. But the fact that now in Hoch Loreich the "elite" from the "Azov/Kraken" punishers and their drone operators are shooting down the "retreating" TROshniks is a well-known trend. - That is, these fairy tales about barrier detachments gave very negative food for thought to the frostbitten ideological raguls, and they brought the fairy tale to life... Therefore, I consider it a completely worthy cause to destroy those very same "Azov/Kraken" punishers, and every single drone operator, on the spot - like they did in WW2 with snipers and flamethrowers...
  2. +9
    April 22 2026 06: 11
    I don't mean to offend the author, but this topic has been well-worn. Those who are interested have long known the ropes. For those who aren't, it's all the same whether it's a blow to the forehead or a slap on the forehead... And some probably don't know that in our penal battalions, it was "redeemed with blood" and that's it, you weren't a penal battalion soldier, but in German ones, as the young people say now, it was "to the point of melting..." Such is the brutal grin of Stalinism.
    1. +1
      April 22 2026 06: 47
      in German, as young people say now, until the melting point...
      Six months on the front lines, only a few survived.
    2. +3
      April 23 2026 01: 47
      They write that when the Russians entered König, on some streets the lampposts were hung with German soldiers with signs reading "DESERTER" on their chests... - that's just... about "cultural" Europe...
  3. + 20
    April 22 2026 06: 20
    In general, as soon as someone spouts nonsense about "a rifle for three people," I immediately support it, and then aggravate it: "And a tank, too, for three, and by the end of the war, for four, or even five, and with ships, it's a complete horror! One for three hundred people! There is no limit to the abominations of Stalinism" (sarcasm).
    1. +6
      April 22 2026 08: 34
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      The situation with ships is absolutely horrific! One for every three hundred people! There is no limit to the abominations of Stalinism.

      +
      :)
      Unfortunately, it's been like this in everything since 56... just think of the "millions" of people starved to death in the gulag... the same thing - yes, there were gulags, but there weren't millions starved to death there... however, the tendency to denigrate one's own past is nothing new, but if you take the real figures of the "atrocities" of the tsarist penal servitude and exile, and even compare them with the French penal servitude of Toulon and, in our (i.e., last) century, the camps in the same French Guyana (forced labor for life), all this will seem like a simple human rights preserve
  4. -15
    April 22 2026 06: 21
    It's a question of scale. The Germans shot 7 of their own, and we shot 157. Also thousands. wink Almost 30 divisions, damn it. With this approach, we won't even need the enemy; we'll kill ourselves. fool

    Incidentally, of the 146 Americans executed, only one was a deserter – Edward Slovik. The rest were rapists, looters, and so on. bully
    1. +8
      April 22 2026 07: 09
      and we have 157. Also thousands. wink Almost 30 divisions, damn.
      Your divisions look a bit "cadre-like." According to the Red Army's organization chart, a rifle division should have 12,5 personnel.
      1. -5
        April 22 2026 12: 52
        and we have 157. Also thousands. wink Almost 30 divisions, damn.
        Your divisions look a bit "cadre-like." According to the Red Army's organization chart, a rifle division should have 12,5 personnel.

        It's not the States that fight, but people. And the average roster size of our "divisions" in WWII was about 5,4.
        Essentially, they fought in brigades, but a division has three generals, while a brigade has only one, and not always even that, not to mention colonels. That's why it's called a division! fellow laughing
      2. 0
        April 22 2026 21: 56
        This is standard. In reality, it was noticeably less.
        Average strength of rifle divisions 1941-1945
        Campaigns thousands of people

        Winter 1941/42 5,7
        Winter 1942/43 6,0
        Summer-autumn 1943 5,5
        Winter-spring 1944 5,0
        Summer-autumn 1944 6,0
        In Europe 1945 5,1
    2. + 13
      April 22 2026 09: 52
      Where's the source? Even if we ignore the fact that the Germans didn't consider raping and murdering civilians on enemy territory a crime, unlike ours, the Germans were already killing their own on German soil in 45. Or is this something like "millions of German women raped"?
      1. -6
        April 22 2026 09: 57
        Where's the source? Even if we ignore the fact that the Germans didn't consider raping and murdering civilians on enemy territory a crime, unlike ours, the Germans were already killing their own on German soil in 45. Or is this something like "millions of German women raped"?

        This data has been known for a long time. It was the military lawyers themselves who published it in the Journal of Military Lawyers (VIZh) for the first time—Zvyagintsev, I believe. And keep in mind, these are only those who were properly registered. Those who were "without trial or investigation" are not included in the statistics. wink
    3. +3
      April 22 2026 11: 04
      Quote: Arzt
      and we are 157


      According to "Russia and the USSR in the Wars of the 20th Century. Losses of the Armed Forces," edited by Colonel General G. F. Krivosheev, 423,000 military personnel were sentenced to fines, 436,000 to camps, and 135,000 were executed.
      1. 0
        April 22 2026 12: 45
        According to "Russia and the USSR in the Wars of the 20th Century. Losses of the Armed Forces," edited by Colonel General G. F. Krivosheev, 423,000 military personnel were sentenced to fines, 436,000 to camps, and 135,000 were executed.

        We will probably never know the exact figures, but these are the data of Colonel-General of Justice A. Muranov in the article “Activities of Military Justice Bodies during the Great Patriotic War,” in the journal “State and Law,” No. 8, 1995.

        During the 1,418 days of war, 2,530,663 people were convicted. 284,344 were sentenced to death, and 157,593 were executed. The remainder had their sentences commuted to penal battalions, etc. winked
        1. +4
          April 22 2026 20: 06
          Quote: Arzt
          During the 1,418 days of the war, 2,530,663 people were convicted. 284,344 were sentenced to death, 157,593 were executed. The rest were commuted to penal battalions, etc.

          I don’t see any contradictions: Krivosheev has only military personnel, Muranov has everyone.
  5. + 12
    April 22 2026 07: 09
    Excellent article.
    I disagree with one phrase:
    The Soviet system of military command had brutal features.

    No, I didn't. This is the army, not an institute for noble maidens.
    And only such an army was able to break the neck of the fascists in less than 4 years - the best army on planet Earth in 1941.
    The report is finished.
    1. -8
      April 22 2026 11: 14
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      And only such an army was able to break the neck of the fascists in less than 4 years - the best army on planet Earth in 1941.
      The report is finished.

      Hmm, and I fought the Banderites for 12 years. It turned out to be at least three times harder than breaking the Wehrmacht.
      1. +5
        April 22 2026 18: 09
        Quote: your1970
        It turned out to be 3 times more difficult than breaking the Wehrmacht

        Well, the most vile work remained, they all hide in the forests and bushes, or smile at you during the day, and in the evening / at night they look in on you with a burst of machine gun fire... but they packed them all up anyway, and Khrushchev released them later, like victims of the repressions, the result is well known to us
      2. 0
        8 June 2026 16: 47
        The US, with its men in slippers and AKs, fought in Afghanistan for 20 years and fled so badly that they dropped their own "allies" who believed in them from transport planes. And note that in this case, the Taliban had virtually no significant assistance.
  6. +9
    April 22 2026 07: 35
    The author tries to discuss those events with a certain caution and reverence. And it is precisely this caution that causes misunderstanding. Were barrier detachments and penal units necessary? Of course, he himself does not deny this. Was all this slandered, first during the Khrushchev era and then during the perestroika era? They were slandered, vilified, invented, and mythologized. It's time to call a spade a spade and stop speaking apologetically.
  7. +4
    April 22 2026 07: 44
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    The last veterans with spears, so that the first ones hold the line.


    Not necessarily. The best fighters were placed in the rear ranks to serve as the last line of defense and to turn the tide of battle by delivering a decisive blow to a weary enemy.
    The function of the barrier units is not to prevent the flight of the faint-hearted and deserters, but to be the last barrier against the enemy.
  8. +9
    April 22 2026 07: 58
    What needs to be filmed is something else: not fictional stories, but genuine ones, supported by documents. I already wrote about the 28th Separate Penal Officers' Company on VO. An essay was even published in Krasnaya Zvezda in '43.

    .
    An officer, a senior aircraft production technician, was sentenced to five years' imprisonment in a forced labor camp without loss of rights for boasting of his knowledge and imparting top-secret information about his unit to an unknown fellow traveler. Based on Note 2 to Article 28 of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR, the military tribunal deferred the sentence until the end of hostilities.
    Prior to NPO order No. 227, such as Lieutenant Solovyov, after the announcement of the verdict, returned to the unit, where, having a criminal record, they continued to serve in their previous or lower position. But from October 16, 1942 (order of the Deputy People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR, Army Commissar 1st Rank E. Shchadenko No. 323), commanders were obliged to send all military personnel convicted with a suspended sentence to penal units of the active army. Lieutenant Solovyov, sentenced to five years, was supposed to be tested by a penal battalion for a month.


    Combat reconnaissance really became a baptism of fire in the infantry for Solovyov and his new colleagues. During the war years, it was also called power. Penal officers were attracted to this type of reconnaissance especially often.


    Reconnaissance in force was meticulously prepared for, sometimes devoting up to two weeks to it. They searched for suitable terrain in the division's rear areas, strung up several rows of barbed wire, just like the real enemy, and dug a trench and combat outposts behind it. The training was timed.

    The article described how penal soldiers were trained for a month for reconnaissance in force, until their elbows and knees bled. And this is a commemorative plaque for a relative of mine from the 28th Specialized Assault Regiment. He served in an anti-aircraft unit guarding the airfield. I don't know what he did wrong, but after his first battle he was released back to his unit without injury, but with a Medal for Courage. Interestingly, the convicted officers made their way to the penal unit on their own, without an escort.
    1. 0
      April 22 2026 20: 01
      28th separate penal officer company

      ?
      Probably not a company after all?
      officers were not sent to the companies
      1. +2
        April 22 2026 21: 55
        Quote from: nepunamemuk
        28th separate penal officer company

        ?
        Probably not a company after all?
        officers were not sent to the companies

        There weren't enough officers for the battalion. First there was a battalion, then a battalion, then a battalion again. Search online for the 28th Separate Assault Regiment of the Leningrad Front, Commander Major Lesik.
      2. -1
        14 May 2026 15: 14
        You're right, in penal armies and fronts - why bother with small things?
    2. RMT
      -1
      April 24 2026 14: 54
      Questions regarding the attached document.
      The signatory's title is Major Lesik, commander of the 28th Separate Penal Company of the Leningrad Front's command staff. The award is for a Red Army soldier. He wasn't demoted, and he had never fought anywhere. How did he end up in an officers' penal company?
      Position of the second signatory: Adjutant Senior Captain Petrov ????
  9. +3
    April 22 2026 08: 29
    The enemies of the USSR are divided into anti-Soviet, Russophobic puppeteers and their puppets, who mindlessly, like zombies, repeat their puppeteers' words, phrases, cliches, manuals, myths, falsehoods, and nonsense. And here's one of their cliches about the Great Patriotic War: "They shot their own soldiers in the back." They can't explain why they shot them in the back. Did the soldiers flee the battlefield backwards, or did they wait for them to pass by so they could shoot them in the back?
    1. +5
      April 22 2026 08: 50
      Quote: tatra
      What, the soldiers ran away from the battlefield backwards?

      Dear Vladimir_2, you provided a wonderful illustration above of how tanks were driven into battle with bayonets... :)
  10. -8
    April 22 2026 08: 53
    Order 227

    Marshal of the Civil Guard Zhukov
    Even after our troops had demonstrated themselves capable of not only defending themselves, but also delivering serious blows to the enemy, Stalin found it necessary to write in one of his orders: "The population of our country, who treat the Red Army with love and respect, is beginning to become disillusioned with it, is losing faith in the Red Army, and many of them are cursing the Red Army for handing over our people to the yoke of the German oppressors, while it itself is fleeing to the east."

    With this order, Stalin undeservedly discredited the fighting and moral qualities of our soldiers, officers and generals.

    As actual facts show, our soldiers and officers, units and formations fought, as a rule, with exceptional tenacity, not sparing their lives, inflicting heavy losses on the enemy.

    Even our enemies were forced to acknowledge the military valor of Soviet soldiers in the initial period of the war.

    This is what the Chief of the General Staff of the German ground forces, Colonel General Halder, wrote in his service diary:

    June 24 - "The enemy in the border zone offered resistance almost everywhere.

    The tenacity of individual Russian units in battle is noteworthy. There were instances where pillbox garrisons blew themselves up along with the pillboxes, refusing to surrender.

    June 27 - He notes that Russian troops and command in Ukraine "are acting well and energetically."

    June 29 - "Reports from the front confirm that the Russians are fighting everywhere to the last man. The Russians' stubborn resistance forces us to fight according to all the rules of our combat regulations. In Poland and the West, we were able to allow ourselves certain liberties and deviations from the regulations, which is now unacceptable."

    July 6 - "In some areas, enemy tank crews are abandoning their vehicles, but in most cases they are locking themselves in their tanks and allowing themselves to be burned along with their vehicles."

    July 11 - "The enemy is fighting fiercely and fanatically."

    Even when our troops were surrounded, they continued to fight the enemy.

    On July 20, Halder wrote in his diary: “Individual enemy groups, continuing to remain in our rear, are a real disaster for us.”

    In the same diary, Halder recorded losses for the period from the beginning of the war to December 10, 1941, i.e., before the end of the Battle of Moscow and the launch of our winter offensive operations. The Germans lost 775.078 men killed, wounded, and missing, representing 24,22% of the 3,2 million combat troops on the Eastern Front.

    These facts and figures, more understated than exaggerated, convincingly testify to the fact that our soldiers, in the most difficult conditions of the initial period, honestly and valiantly fulfilled their combat duty, defending their socialist homeland.

    Why did Stalin need to issue orders that disgrace our army? I believe this was done to deflect blame and public discontent for the country's lack of preparedness for defense, for the mistakes he personally made in commanding the troops, and for the failures that resulted..
    1. +2
      April 22 2026 09: 18
      Here is one of the orders issued under Nicholas II, whom you, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, so praised:
      "Order No. 748 of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief General L.G. Kornilov dated August 1, 1917 on measures to combat fraternization.

      On some front lines, the enemy is still attempting to fraternize with our soldiers. I order:
      1) in the event of open fraternization by entire groups, immediately open machine gun and artillery fire on them;
      2) when penetrating the enemy into our position for fraternization, do not take prisoners, but pin those who arrive on the spot and place their corpses in front of the barbed wire fences;
      3) our people, for their attempts at fraternization, should be brought before a military revolutionary court as treason."

      "1917. Decomposition of the army." M., Veche, 2010. p.282-283.

      1. +9
        April 22 2026 10: 57
        Quote: tatra
        And here is one of the orders of the one praised by you, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people,Nicholas II:
        "Order No. 748 of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief General L.G. Kornilov dated August 1 1917 years

        К August 1, 1917 Nicholas II could not issue any orders to the army.
        Because he was overthrown six months ago request
        1. +2
          April 22 2026 11: 12
          But still, there was an army created by him with his orders, and Kornilov was a tsarist officer.
      2. +1
        April 22 2026 11: 09
        Quote: tatra
        Here is one of the orders under Nicholas II:
        "Order No. 748 from August 1 1917 years
        belay fool lol laughing
        1. +3
          April 22 2026 11: 15
          Well, have a laugh some more:
          Order of the Commander of the 8th Army, General A.A. Brusilov, dated June 5, 1915: “...Furthermore, we must have especially reliable men and machine guns at the rear, so that, if necessary, we can force the faint-hearted to move forward. There should be no hesitation in executing entire units for attempting to turn back or, even worse, to surrender to the enemy. Anyone who sees an entire unit (a company or more) surrendering must open fire on the surrendering troops and completely destroy them. We began to retreat through no fault of our own, but we have been retreating for two months now. It is time to stop and finally settle accounts with the enemy properly, completely forgetting the pathetic words about the might of the enemy’s artillery, the superiority of his forces, his tirelessness, invincibility, etc. And therefore I order: ...Secondly, there must be no mercy for the faint-hearted, those who surrender or leave the line. “THE FIRE FROM RIFLES, MACHINE GUN, AND CANNON MUST BE DIRECTED AT THOSE WHO SURRENDER... Even if fire on the enemy ceases, those who retreat or flee should be dealt with in the same manner, and if necessary, not to stop at mass executions.”

    2. -2
      April 22 2026 11: 23
      Quote: Olgovich
      Order 227

      Marshal of the Civil Guard Zhukov
      Even after our troops had demonstrated themselves capable of not only defending themselves, but also delivering serious blows to the enemy, Stalin found it necessary to write in one of his orders: "The population of our country, who treat the Red Army with love and respect, is beginning to become disillusioned with it, is losing faith in the Red Army, and many of them are cursing the Red Army for handing over our people to the yoke of the German oppressors, while it itself is fleeing to the east."

      With this order, Stalin undeservedly discredited the fighting and moral qualities of our soldiers, officers and generals.

      As actual facts show, our soldiers and officers, units and formations fought, as a rule, with exceptional tenacity, not sparing their lives, inflicting heavy losses on the enemy.

      Even our enemies were forced to acknowledge the military valor of Soviet soldiers in the initial period of the war.

      This is what the Chief of the General Staff of the German ground forces, Colonel General Halder, wrote in his service diary:

      June 24 - "The enemy in the border zone offered resistance almost everywhere.

      The tenacity of individual Russian units in battle is noteworthy. There were instances where pillbox garrisons blew themselves up along with the pillboxes, refusing to surrender.

      June 27 - He notes that Russian troops and command in Ukraine "are acting well and energetically."

      June 29 - "Reports from the front confirm that the Russians are fighting everywhere to the last man. The Russians' stubborn resistance forces us to fight according to all the rules of our combat regulations. In Poland and the West, we were able to allow ourselves certain liberties and deviations from the regulations, which is now unacceptable."

      July 6 - "In some areas, enemy tank crews are abandoning their vehicles, but in most cases they are locking themselves in their tanks and allowing themselves to be burned along with their vehicles."

      July 11 - "The enemy is fighting fiercely and fanatically."

      Even when our troops were surrounded, they continued to fight the enemy.

      On July 20, Halder wrote in his diary: “Individual enemy groups, continuing to remain in our rear, are a real disaster for us.”

      In the same diary, Halder recorded losses for the period from the beginning of the war to December 10, 1941, i.e., before the end of the Battle of Moscow and the launch of our winter offensive operations. The Germans lost 775.078 men killed, wounded, and missing, representing 24,22% of the 3,2 million combat troops on the Eastern Front.

      These facts and figures, more understated than exaggerated, convincingly testify to the fact that our soldiers, in the most difficult conditions of the initial period, honestly and valiantly fulfilled their combat duty, defending their socialist homeland.

      Why did Stalin need to issue orders that disgrace our army? I believe this was done to deflect blame and public discontent for the country's lack of preparedness for defense, for the mistakes he personally made in commanding the troops, and for the failures that resulted..

      Anecdotal The situation is that for some, and for Zhukov - the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army at the beginning of the war - it is necessary to sit quietly and not bark.
      Because it is personal direct wine In total, he lost in 1941. By the beginning of the war, Stalin didn't even have power in the army - Zhukov and Timoshenko were in charge.
      1. -4
        April 22 2026 12: 04
        Quote: your1970
        Order 227

        Marshal of the Civil Guard Zhukov
        Even after our troops had demonstrated themselves capable of not only defending themselves, but also delivering serious blows to the enemy, Stalin found it necessary to write in one of his orders: "The population of our country, who treat the Red Army with love and respect, is beginning to become disillusioned with it, is losing faith in the Red Army, and many of them are cursing the Red Army for handing over our people to the yoke of the German oppressors, while it itself is fleeing to the east."

        With this order, Stalin undeservedly discredited the fighting and moral qualities of our soldiers, officers and generals..


        Remember the date of the order: July 27, 1942. Not the summer of 1941, but the summer of 1942. As if they'd never retreated before. Our units retreated to the bend of the Don, and, according to orders, we weren't engaged in rearguard action. Isn't that odd? This order was part of a chain of disinformation aimed at the enemy, intended to prematurely "dizzily achieve success." The Germans thought the capture of Stalingrad would be a walk in the park, so they rushed part of their forces to the Don instead of the Caucasus, as Stalin had planned, even though some German commanders were against this offensive. In my opinion, the order was part of our successful disinformation operation, "Monastery." Zhukov himself was one of those indirectly involved in this operation, unaware of it, as he was greatly surprised when he was urgently dispatched three days before the counteroffensive on the Western Front near Rzhev to conduct Operation Mars, which the Germans considered the main operation. Of course, Zhukov himself was sent there. Zhukov wasn't even aware of Operation Monastery. He was also surprised how fresh German divisions—two tank and three motorized—came to Rzhev, which Hitler urgently sent to Rzhev instead of Stalingrad. But if the Germans had transferred these divisions to Stalingrad, they would have suffered an even greater defeat for Army Group Center near Rzhev.
        1. 0
          April 22 2026 13: 27
          Zhukov wasn't even aware of this "Monastery" operation. He was still surprised by how fresh German divisions—two tank and three motorized—came to Rzhev.
          Don't take everything Sudoplatov wrote in his books at face value.
          At the beginning of the Battle of Rzhev in the winter and summer of 42, the Germans had practically no tanks near Rzhev, while in the Red Army units, on the contrary, there were a lot
          1. 0
            April 22 2026 13: 30
            Quote: Lewww
            Zhukov wasn't even aware of this "Monastery" operation. He was still surprised by how fresh German divisions—two tank and three motorized—came to Rzhev.
            Don't take everything Sudoplatov wrote in his books at face value.
            At the beginning of the Battle of Rzhev in the winter and summer of 42, the Germans had practically no tanks near Rzhev, while in the Red Army units, on the contrary, there were a lot

            There were none in the winter of 41-42, but in November of 42 they appeared and Solomatin’s mechanized corps was surrounded.

            The 9th Army of Colonel General V. Model, which bore the brunt of the Soviet attack, consisted of:

            6th Army Corps (2nd Air Field, 7th Parachute and 197th Infantry Divisions).
            23rd Army Corps (246th, 86th, 110th, 253rd and 206th Infantry Divisions, a regiment of the 87th Infantry Division and a regiment of the 10th Motorized Division).
            27th Army Corps (95th, 72nd, 256th, 129th, 6th and 251st Infantry Divisions, two regiments of the 87th Infantry Division).
            39th Tank Corps (337th, 102nd and 78th Infantry, 5-I Panzer Division).
            41st Tank Corps (330th and 205th Infantry Divisions, regiment of the 328th Infantry Division).
            In addition, the headquarters of the 9th Army had two motorized divisions (the 14th and "Grossdeutschland") under its control. 1st and 9th Panzer Divisions, Tank Battalion of the 11th Tank Division (37 tanks) and the 1st Cavalry Division.

            At the base of the salient were the reserves of Army Group Center - 12th, 19th and 20th Panzer Divisions, which in a critical situation could be quickly redeployed to the threatened direction.
            1. 0
              April 22 2026 17: 08
              There were none in the winter of 41-42, but they appeared in November of 42.
              November 42 was already the final stage of the Battle of Rzhev, and you don’t have to be a great prophet to figure out that by this time the Germans would finally bring up their tanks.
              The Battle of Rzhev was probably the most unsuccessful in Zhukov's career, something our historians close to the powers that be still prefer not to talk about.
      2. +3
        April 22 2026 12: 11
        Quote: your1970
        Because he was directly and personally to blame for the loss of everything in 1941.

        Nope. Zhukov's direct personal fault would have been the result if the political leadership had issued the mobilization order in a timely manner, and if industry had provided the army with the required equipment.
        And so - May those who may ©: first, the unmobilized and understaffed cadre is worn down in a border battle, and then the exchange of territory begins for time to mobilize and prepare a replacement for this cadre.
        If Zhukov is to be blamed for anything, it's the lack of discipline and subordination in the army entrusted to him. When front and army commanders directly ignored the Chief of General Staff's orders and, instead of implementing them, began to "show initiative," inventing the wildest shortcuts that only worsened the situation.
        Everything else can't be cured by directives and orders, because their roots lie beyond the Chief of General Staff's purview. The low educational level of conscripts and junior command personnel, the poor quality of equipment, the constant disruption of industrial plans (including because the country simply lacks steel), and problems with theater equipment due to a shortage of personnel, equipment, and materials—these are all common problems for the country.
        1. 0
          April 23 2026 16: 10
          The political leadership gave the order for mobilization in a timely manner, and industry provided the army with equipment according to the required standards.
          And in which army, which country did you see this?
      3. -1
        April 22 2026 20: 17
        Quote: your1970
        The funny thing about the situation is that Zhukov, the Chief of the General Staff of the Red Army at the beginning of the war, had to sit quietly and not bark.
        Because he was directly personally to blame for the entire loss in 1941. By the start of the war, Stalin didn't even have power in the army - Zhukov and Timoshenko were in charge of everything.

        ruled everything before WWII Stalin

        Zhukov received undeniable FACTS:

        .....The General Staff did not have operational and mobilization plans completed and approved by the Government.

        The industry was not given specific mobilization tasks for preparing mobilization capacities and creating corresponding material reserves.

        The situation was particularly dire for senior military personnel, who, from district commanders to division and regimental commanders, were repeatedly replaced due to arrests between 1937 and 1939. Those newly appointed at the outbreak of war proved poorly prepared for their positions. Front and army commanders were particularly poorly prepared.

        Stalin's suspicion of military personnel caused enormous harm to the Armed Forces. In just four years, from 1937 to 1941, the system of one-man command was abolished twice in our Armed Forces, and the institution of military commissars was introduced. This sowed mistrust in command personnel, undermined discipline in the troops, and created uncertainty among the command staff.

        The weaknesses in our country's and army's preparation for war, revealed during the Soviet-Finnish War and the events in the Far East, were not only not addressed, but were not even seriously discussed either in the Central Committee or in the Council of People's Commissars, since all these issues were in Stalin's hands and without his instructions no one could make any decisions.

        Because Stalin ignored the obvious threat of Nazi Germany's attack on the Soviet Union, our Armed Forces were not promptly brought to combat readiness, were not deployed by the time of the enemy's attack, and were not tasked with being prepared to repel the enemy's impending attack, so as, as Stalin said, "not to provoke the Germans into war."

        etc..
        1. 0
          8 June 2026 17: 00
          The cat gave birth to kittens, it's Putin... Stalin is to blame. Okay, I see. Keep monitoring.
    3. +4
      April 22 2026 11: 58
      Quote: Olgovich
      Marshal of the Civil Guard Zhukov
      Even after our troops had demonstrated themselves capable of not only defending themselves, but also delivering serious blows to the enemy, Stalin found it necessary to write in one of his orders: "The population of our country, who treat the Red Army with love and respect, is beginning to become disillusioned with it, is losing faith in the Red Army, and many of them are cursing the Red Army for handing over our people to the yoke of the German oppressors, while it itself is fleeing to the east."

      With this order, Stalin undeservedly discredited the fighting and moral qualities of our soldiers, officers and generals.

      Uh-huh... and the population in the towns and villages abandoned by the Red Army, apparently, saw off the army retreating east with flowers. Or has Comrade Marshal not read the memoirs of the lower echelons, where, when describing the events of 1941-1942, reproaches and accusations from locals that the army was abandoning them were commonplace?
      However, the State Committee on Housing and Custody's criticism of the temporary detention facility is not surprising, following the "trophy case." smile
      1. -3
        April 22 2026 14: 28
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Or hasn't Comrade Marshal read the memoirs of the lower echelons, where, when describing the events of 1941-1942, reproaches and accusations from locals that the army was abandoning them were commonplace?

        Sholokhov's conversation between the old woman and Lopakhin and the fact that she won't even give him any dung, let alone salt.
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Nope. Zhukov's direct personal fault would have been the result if the political leadership had issued the mobilization order in a timely manner, and if industry had provided the army with the required equipment.

        You just threw a brick at "Gerasimov is to blame for everything!!!" (C)......
        I'll go, it's okay for you, but they'll beat me. crying
        1. +4
          April 22 2026 16: 16
          Quote: your1970
          I'll go, it's okay for you, but they'll beat me.

          When I'm not here, they can even beat me! laughing
      2. 0
        April 22 2026 20: 26
        Quote: Alexey RA
        and the population in the towns and villages abandoned by the Red Army, apparently, saw off the army retreating to the east with flowers.

        And the fleeing Soviet power and the party they sold out with... flowers?

        Zhukov's "reproaches" are indisputable facts
        Quote: Alexey RA
        "trophy case".

        Why wasn't there a trophy case against Vasya's son? Ah, "everyone's equal." lol
      3. +1
        14 May 2026 15: 11
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Or Comrade Marshal didn't read the memoirs.

        These memoirs weren't written by Zhukov under Khrushchev. It's an established historical fact.
        Zhukov dictated some of it, but there was a whole group of editors who wrote a lot of their own stuff.
  11. +5
    April 22 2026 09: 23
    My grandfather, a platoon commander, recounted: "Towards nightfall, some soldiers from Central Asia would stick their hands out over the trenches. My deputy platoon commander and I would stop such behavior. One would fire a rifle at the wounded soldier's arm, and when the wounded man jumped up, the second would finish him off." He spoke highly of both the Kyrgyz and Kazakh soldiers. After completing machine gun training in 1942, my grandfather was promoted to lieutenant because he had completed 10th grade. He was appointed platoon commander. He ended the war with Japan as a senior lieutenant and commander of Marshal Malinovsky's personal guard platoon. It's a shame I don't remember much of what he said about the war.
  12. +2
    April 22 2026 12: 57
    Zhukov issued such orders repeatedly back in October 1941. Even then, executions on the spot without trial or investigation were practiced.
    1. +3
      April 22 2026 13: 03
      And the publication is sensible and thoughtful.
  13. +4
    April 22 2026 19: 21
    On October 29, 1944, People's Commissar of Defense Stalin signed Order No. 0349 on the disbandment of separate barrier detachments.


    Good evening! hi The article is interesting. Yes
    I would like to add that border units also acted as barrier detachments.

    Vasily, my grandfather's brother, met the war as part of the 92nd border detachment of the NKVD in Przemysl. (He was captured and died in a camp near Rivne in October 1941.)
    So, I would like to briefly tell you about the regiment’s combat activities:
    From June 22, 1941 to May 11, 1945, the regiment was part of the DKA (Order of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs No. 0205 of May 31, 1956) and guarded the rear of the fronts:
    Southwest - from April 1942 to August 5, 1942
    Voronezh - August 6, 1942 to December 31, 1942
    1 Ukrainian from January 1943 to August 12, 1944
    4 Ukrainian – from August 13, 1944 to August 10, 1945

    During the period from June 22 to June 30, 1941, the detachment fought stubborn battles on the state border, near Przemysl, Medyka, in the area of ​​Lubeń-Wielki, Komarno, Legezino. In these battles, the enemy lost about 5000 soldiers and officers killed and wounded.
    The detachment's losses in killed, wounded and missing were 706 people.

    On August 18, 1941, the regiment began its duty as a barrier guard on the Nizhyn-Monastyryshche line.
    During the period from August 18.8 to September 12.9.1941, 1941, the regiment made approximately 2000 arrests. Among those arrested, two spies were exposed. The regiment does not have precise data on arrests broken down by category during this period, since all operational documentation was destroyed during the regiment's breakout from encirclement in September 2.
    The regiment's units did not conduct any combat operations in August.
    During the period from 10.10.41 to 31.12.41, the regiment detained 6060 people, including:

    Spies-25
    Deserters - 884
    Released from captivity: -1153
    813 people escaped from encirclement
    Stragglers from units - 1190
    Others-1995

    Carrying out barrier duty both in a stable situation at the front and in difficult march conditions, the regiment made 36690 arrests during the period from 22.6.41 to 1.2.43:
    of which:
    spies ……………………………………… ... 92
    terrorists ...................... ……………… .3
    deserters ………………………………… 2823
    traitors to the motherland ……………………… 75
    bandits ..................................... 90
    henchmen and accomplices
    the enemy .............................................. 208
    looters. ………………………………… .113
    suspicious espionage ................... 18
    lagging behind their units ................... ... 6566
    deviating from service in the Red Army ........... 966
    labor front deserters ................... 176
    natives of captivity and surroundings ... .......... 4004
    Deserter Concealers …………………… 25
    leaving the occupied territory
    the enemy ...................................... 255
    soldiers and officers of the enemy army ... 4953
    other …………………………………… .16 323

    The commander of the 92 border regiment of the NKVD troops
    Lieutenant Colonel Blumin
    1. +3
      April 22 2026 19: 22
      On April 27, 1943, the regiment was awarded the Order of the Red Banner (NKVD USSR order No. 302).

      On October 31, 1944, for the successful completion of combat missions, the regiment was awarded the honorary title “Carpathian” (Order of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief No. 0355).

      November 11, 1944 - renamed the "92nd Border Carpathian Red Banner Regiment of the NKVD Troops" (order of the NKVD USSR No. 0257).

      After May 11, 1945:

      On August 11, 1945, the regiment became part of the Group of Soviet Occupation Forces in Germany (until May 12, 1946).
      Yes
  14. +1
    April 22 2026 21: 50
    Now, instead of the barrier detachments where soldiers served, doing difficult duty, there are now military policemen instead of commandant's service! Not commandants, not soldiers – policemen. Ugh, disgusting.
  15. +1
    April 22 2026 22: 55
    The whole problem is that in the USSR, history was treated like capitalism's whore, and everything within their reach was kept secret. Now they're declassifying the assault on Prague, but how much longer will it be left gathering dust under lock and key? So history takes its revenge, and enemies take advantage of the silence surrounding entire layers of events and spin everything to their advantage.
  16. 0
    April 23 2026 21: 17
    I really wanted to write something detailed and comprehensive, but remembering that it’s unlikely that anyone will read it (two whole days have already passed) and that “Sisyphean labor” is contraindicated for me, I’ll limit myself to just a few comments. Reliable front-line soldiers and some sources (by no means "yellow") have repeatedly spoken of this forced form of coercion to defend and suppression of cowardice. Barriers were used in two ways: most often, as a contingent to suppress desertion and detain panicked and disoriented soldiers in the second echelon formations, as well as in the near rear (checkpoints, outposts and raids); less often - as a deterrent threat against unauthorized abandonment of the front line. In the latter case, not so numerous barrier units were placed, as a rule, behind units assessed by the command as unreliable in defense (penal units, poorly coordinated and newly formed, massively replenished with national minorities, etc.). According to the instructions, if necessary, they had the right to open warning fire in front of retreating troops, or above the heads of those fleeing. In the event of a direct attack on the barrier formations by the latter, The fire was directed directly at the attackers. Such incidents were rare, but they did occur, although more often than not, the barrier detachments were forced to engage the enemy as they broke through. Afterwards, their families often received official funeral notices, rather than triangular soldiers' letters from them.
    Damn it, it seems I've broken my word and resorted to Sisyphean labor again? I'll try to make amends next time! laughing
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      April 24 2026 00: 58
      less often – as a deterrent threat to unauthorized departure from the front line.

      The problem is that there are no open statistics on this issue. Memories on such a sensitive topic are also rare, for obvious reasons. In the existing memoirs, one can read that not only special blocking detachments but also regular units were called in for this. This is mentioned, for example, in the memoirs of Hero of the Soviet Union Dmitry Loza: he was ordered to open fire on our retreating troops with tank machine guns. And although he writes that he ordered the tank crews to fire in front of and over the retreating troops, the command's orders were to fire specifically at the retreating troops. He later confirmed that there were casualties from the fire. Surely, in such cases, a standard death-in-action notification was sent.
  17. 0
    April 29 2026 12: 44
    All the tales about barrier detachments are part of the work to destroy everything Russian.
  18. 0
    April 30 2026 18: 56
    Excellent thank you.
    What Banderites and their barrier troops are doing now is simply horrific. Yet, for some reason, no one is calling it a disgrace—not Amnesty International, not other fighters for human rights and European values.
    And finally, Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls." There's a scene where they set up a checkpoint on a bridge, culling soldiers from among the fleeing crowd and shooting them on the spot.
  19. +1
    14 May 2026 15: 06
    Quote: Kitun Evgeniy
    Secondly, spears are not for holding your own formation, but to prevent the enemy from breaking through the hastati formation

    You just haven't watched liberal films about Rome.
    spears - exclusively for motivation by jabbing comrades in the asses.
  20. 0
    21 June 2026 21: 49
    Quote: novel xnumx
    All the war films made recently are utter nonsense. They're made according to Hollywood molds, with the inevitable slathering of dirt and completely unnecessary eroticism. Moral!

    Well, not all of them