Twelve and one

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Twelve and one

I'm reminded of an old joke about an elephant at the zoo. They put up a sign saying "African Elephant," but inside it's empty. One visitor says to another, "That's how it is—you say there's one, but when you look, you see it's gone."

About the same story Something similar happened to the Russian aircraft industry. Only instead of an elephant, we have airplanes, and instead of a sign, a government program.



In June 2022, when sanctions were just beginning to pinch the economy, officials took matters into their own hands. They approved a comprehensive development program. aviation industry. The goal was to produce over a thousand civilian aircraft by 2030. And this isn't just a fantasy—1081 units are a concrete figure on paper.

It would seem like ironclad logic. The West stopped selling Boeings and Airbuses? So what. So we'll build our own. We'll show the world what we can do, whenever we want. And no one can tell us what to do.

Four years have passed. A program with a proud name "Comprehensive Program for the Development of the Aviation Industry through 2030", approved by a Government Resolution signed by Prime Minister Mishustin, despite the mountains of rubles poured into it, turned out to be slightly more expensive than the paper and ink that were used on it.

Thirteen


That's how many new civilian aircraft Russian factories produced between 2022 and 2025: twelve Superjets and one Tu-214. This single Tu-214, incidentally, never made it to market—it's flown by industry overseer Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov. So, in four years, only a dozen aircraft were produced for passengers.

More precisely, 12 and 1. Whether you like it or not, there’s some kind of mysticism in these numbers…

For a country with a territory of fourteen million square kilometers, there are 12 aircraft. The original plan for the same period called for 127 aircraft. In other words, the program was completed at about ten percent. If that's not a failure, then what is a failure? Or a decline?


Hyphenations, which are no longer surprising and are now referred to for euphony as "rightward shifts," have become commonplace in Russia. Much to our regret.

Remember how Soviet cartoons showed construction: "Later! Later! Not now, later!" It's the same story with aircraft construction.

Certification of the PD-8 engine for the SJ-100 (SSJ-New) aircraft is scheduled for April 2026. Serial production is expected to begin that same year. It should...

And then there's the MS-21, the industry's main hope.



A medium-haul airliner that was supposed to be a "Boeing and Airbus killer." It was certified with a US engine back in December 2021. Two months later, a special operation began, and the production-ready aircraft had to be abandoned. An "import-substituting" version was developed.

In October 2025, the MC-21, powered by a Russian engine, took to the skies for the first time. However, Dmitry Yadrov, head of the Federal Air Transport Agency, frankly admitted that five foreign systems have yet to be replaced. The icing system, the collision avoidance system, the weather radar, the power supply, and the toilet—all are still awaiting their turn.

Certification is being postponed until the end of 2026. Under optimistic estimates, the first aircraft will be delivered to the customer nine months later. This means actual deliveries will begin closer to 2028. And given the history of the Superjet, even by 2030.

A separate drama unfolded around the MS-21's composite wing. It was once the project's crowning glory. Its thin composite profile reduced fuel consumption and increased range. A modification with American engines could fly from Moscow to Mumbai—a distance of 5,000 kilometers.

After the 2018 sanctions, the Americans stopped supplying composite raw materials. Should we make our own? Yes, we can. A team of engineers from the Yakovlev Design Bureau, using the facilities and space of VASO, worked for about three years. The goal was to create Russian composites capable of replacing American composites.

Let's be honest—it didn't work out. A huge amount of work was done, but replacing the American composites proved impossible. Yes, the new wing, made from new materials, passed all the strength and safety tests, but it came at a price: weight: 5,75 tons heavier than the American version. And that set off a chain of problems: the heavier wing required a redesign of the structure, which significantly increased the aircraft's weight.

At one point, there was even talk of returning to the proven metal design, but the proponents of composites ultimately prevailed. However, the increased weight came at the cost of range, which ultimately dropped almost in half: from 6400 kilometers to 3830.

And despite all this, the economy—that is, fuel consumption per kilometer flown and the number of passengers carried—was far from ideal. Gradually, the image of an aircraft designed for international flights faded, and in its place emerged a conventional medium-haul aircraft for the domestic market.


No, we need a medium-haul aircraft as much as we need air!


Today, the situation is reaching the point of absurdity: people in cities that aren't that far apart by Russian standards are forced to fly via Moscow! Simply because the aircraft fleets available to Russian airlines don't allow for such flights for economic reasons. 300 people need to go to Moscow, but if 30 go to Yaroslavl, that's a loss.

Even if the MC-21 flies close and is expensive, that's no big deal. There are plenty of routes where such an aircraft would be necessary, unlike the Boeing 747.

But we need planes. That is, the quantities declared and approved by the Russian government, not these measly crumbs.

In April 2026, Deputy Minister of Industry Gennady Abramenkov announced that a proposal to deliver more than 570 aircraft by 2035 had been submitted to the government. This is almost half the initial target for the longer term.

So, 1000 aircraft by 2030 – no way, 570 aircraft by 2035 – maybe. It's been a very successful effort, there's nothing to say. But the main thing is that we need money again, and a lot of it.

The money needed is truly substantial – over three trillion rubles. Where can we get it? From the National Welfare Fund. But the liquid portion of the NWF currently only has about four trillion. So, will almost the entire fund have to be spent on planes? And, as we all know, there's a hole in the budget. So the conclusion is obvious…

Abramenkov admitted that raising funds at commercial rates would be unaffordable for airlines. Either ticket prices would rise so high that no one would fly. Or UAC would suffer huge losses.

Oleg Bogomolov, UAC's Director of Program Management, optimistically stated that the leasing offers "are attractive." But when it comes to three trillion rubles from the state fund, the word "attractive" sounds like black humor.

Meanwhile, the fleet is rapidly aging. And today, many journalists, those who understand the essence of this problem, have begun to talk about this. Rosaviatsia head Yadrov warned that about 339 aircraft will be decommissioned by 2030. Among them are not only old Soviet-era aircraft, but also Superjets that are ten to fifteen years old. What if they don't decommission?


The An-24 that crashed near Tynda in July 2025 was almost fifty years old. Forty-eight people died. The cause of the crash is unknown, but the mere fact that the fifty-year-old aircraft was still flying speaks volumes. There's nothing that can replace the An-24. Therefore, the State Institute of Civil Aviation has ordered certification to extend the service life of the An-26 from fifty to sixty years. Perhaps even seventy.

Of course, if there's a real need, there will be arguments in favor. After all, the Americans have been flying B-52s, and we've had Tu-95s for decades, and it's okay? Yes, it's okay. But the lifespan of a combat aircraft is strikingly different from that of a civilian airliner. A military aircraft can afford to sit in a hangar, receiving maintenance and modifications for decades. And then wear out its lifespan in a military conflict in literally a couple of months. Or it will be destroyed.

A civilian airliner must operate almost every day, carrying passengers and generating profit for its owners. That's understandable. And to achieve this, it must be cost-effective, easily repaired, and modern. The latter is also important, because passengers vote with their money, first and foremost.

And here, as you can see, we have problem after problem.

Regarding the Tu-214


The only more or less new aircraft—experts believe the Kazan plant can realistically produce one per year. And this aircraft, although modernized, is outdated in design. But there's no choice.

Aviation industry experts make no secret of the fact that Russia can build airplanes. The country is among the few capable of constructing an entire airliner.

But there is a nuance.

"We can make an airplane. We're one of the few countries in the world that can build a complete airplane, but not a very good one and not many," said one expert.

That's the whole diagnosis. Not very good and not much. It's not about technology, not about money, not about time—it's about everything at once. Trillions of rubles, decades of development, thousands of specialists who need to be trained and educated. And there's no time. Airplanes are aging right now.

The head of the Federal Air Transport Agency, Dmitry Yadrov, promised half a thousand by 2030—one hundred twenty-five per year, or more than ten per month.

But here's the problem: promises are not exactly... enforceable. At the current rate of three cars a year, it seems like pure fantasy. And unscientific, at that.

Meanwhile, the aviation industry is preparing a new program. A source in the industry said the main challenge is fitting plausible figures into it. The actual capabilities are too modest. And ambitious goals doom the program to failure.

"The ground has been burning beneath their feet for the last three years. There were no sanctions on our industry until 2022. None at all. Everything that could be bought, was bought. Everything that was, was. And now three and a half years have passed, and you want to develop one of the most complex, knowledge-intensive fields. And this doesn't happen in three and a half years," said one Russian specialist.

That's true, but Western products were purchased. Boeings and Airbuses were purchased, while airline management, first and foremost, couldn't care less about the development and construction of domestic aircraft. It's no secret the kickbacks the Americans and Europeans made to replace Yak, Tupolev, and Ilyushin aircraft with Boeings and Airbuses. This has been written about in more than sufficient detail, and it was the executives of the largest airlines who committed their own dirty deed by initiating a total phaseout of domestically produced aircraft. And the government followed suit: what's there to build? We'll buy everything.

And now the fruits are being reaped. The program has been adjusted. Not loudly, not from the podium, without discussion. Quietly and behind the scenes. Instead of 1081 aircraft by 2030, the talk is now about 570 by 2035. Instead of confident promises, there are cautious statements about "objective technical difficulties."

Foreign Boeings and Airbuses are still flying. They are repaired using gray-market spare parts—they remain the last hope for Russian aviation. Because there are no domestic aircraft yet. And when they do, they won't be very good and there won't be many of them.
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  1. + 26
    April 19 2026 04: 07
    There is profanation all around... recourse ...one cool guy is happy about something, but he's silently pressing the 70-core buttons... fool
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      1. + 24
        April 19 2026 07: 52
        hi Let's remember. In the 2000s, a high-ranking friend declared he had no use for our civilian aircraft industry. He'd buy Boeings and Airbuses with petrodollars. And that was it, his soul was off to heaven... Yeltsin didn't have time with the aircraft industry. That was done later...
        1. + 12
          April 19 2026 16: 20
          Because ending support for the Russian aircraft industry was one of the conditions for joining the WTO. The pretense that the money is going into the right pockets, but it never reaches the aircraft industry, is still being perpetuated. Our respected partners are probably happy.
        2. 0
          April 19 2026 17: 19
          Why lie here? Do you think everyone here is stupid? We'll buy everything, we have oil and gas, Gaidar said in 1992. Your faggot has only just begun to destroy Soviet industry...
        3. +5
          April 19 2026 20: 29
          I agree. In the 2000s, the State Duma even considered a program to create cryogenic airports supplying our aircraft with propane-butane. This was because this fuel had already been tested on them. However, Boeing and Airbus won out with their kickbacks.
          1. +1
            April 20 2026 13: 53
            Quote: Modya
            However, Boeing and Airbus won with their kickbacks.

            Most likely (99.99%), those in the West guaranteed the preservation of what was stolen and what was built on what was stolen to those making decisions...
        4. +1
          April 20 2026 16: 21
          This official's name was Gref. He bears full responsibility for the destruction of our aircraft industry.
      2. + 10
        April 19 2026 09: 29
        Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
        The aviation project was initially highly controversial. After lengthy discussions, Chief Leopold ultimately decided in favor of domestic aircraft manufacturing.


        And this is because in the minds of the authorities, the memory of "they could have" somehow coexists with a complete disregard for production (there are no orders, used planes, construction equipment, and so on are imported, even the first Sapsan, although not used, but foreign).
        And then something pecked at my ass.
        AND...
        The result is before your eyes.

        (they could, but they can't)
        The option of helping production is not particularly considered.
        These aren't the banks that always get bailed out; they can be bankrupted... (Isn't that stupid?)

        What exactly did you want?
        Those elected aren't judged by their results, but by how they talk during the elections, by their promises, and so on. As for fulfilling those promises—who even remembers what happened?
        Negative selection is coming out.
        The one who does it (and therefore has neither the strength nor the interest to chatter and boast) will be talked down and pushed out of the arena.

        Democracy of this form is evil.

        Instead of "captain of the country" (as on that poster) we get "toastmaster of disaster" (that is, as in the picture of the ship of fools).
        1. + 10
          April 19 2026 11: 39
          So they've been helping manufacturing for the last 20 years, but what's the point? A passenger airliner is the pinnacle of evolution. It involves microelectronics, precision engineering, complex composites, and so on. But in our country, I can't make a high-quality car; it's just ball bearings. Maybe we should just learn to walk before we start running and jumping?
      3. + 13
        April 19 2026 13: 59
        Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
        The aviation project was initially highly controversial. After lengthy discussions, Chief Leopold ultimately decided in favor of domestic aircraft manufacturing. The outcome is before our eyes.
        And here, unfortunately, it’s like this almost everywhere and in everything...
        And what a country it was!

        And as always, no one is to blame, and the funds have been spent.
        1. +6
          April 19 2026 20: 23
          This is our strong point, no one for anything, and there are no hooligans, and hands under the coat. Sickening and disgusting.
    2. + 41
      April 19 2026 06: 29
      This isn't a sham—it's incompetence. They've cultivated a layer of managers who are "in charge of everything." Industries should be run by industry professionals. Get the assholes to the machine gun and to the front lines.
      1. + 37
        April 19 2026 06: 32
        But they are very competent in mastering budgets.... feel
        1. + 15
          April 19 2026 07: 11
          No problem. Friends and relatives flock here immediately for the big salaries.
        2. +3
          April 19 2026 22: 02
          As one TV presenter says: "Oh, how I understand Stalin now..."
      2. + 39
        April 19 2026 07: 59
        Quote: novel xnumx
        They have cultivated a layer of managers

        Not just managers, but top executives with unrealistically huge salaries and bonuses. And as our president said, if they weren't paid that much, they'd be bought off abroad!
        And I was thinking: maybe it would be for the best if they were all bought out?
        1. + 11
          April 19 2026 08: 16
          Yes, send it cash on delivery and pay a little extra. We'll still win.
        2. +8
          April 19 2026 11: 41
          This is how they buy up state corporations, and there's nothing but nepotism there. On the open market, all these top managers of state corporations are of no use to anyone.
        3. +7
          April 19 2026 16: 28
          No foreign country will buy them. They have such specialists.
          not needed for free.
      3. +4
        April 19 2026 09: 49
        Are you going to give them a machine gun too!?
        They're renting Kina for you...
        1. +1
          April 19 2026 15: 04
          Do you know about the smart guy and the glass (jade) rod?
          1. 0
            April 19 2026 19: 26
            As long as aircraft construction is entrusted to those who destroyed the industry, there is no point in expecting success.
      4. +2
        April 19 2026 23: 24
        Don't trust them with a machine gun, let's go to the logging site with friendship-2...
      5. +2
        April 21 2026 13: 54
        Novel hi
        Quote: novel xnumx
        This isn't a sham—it's incompetence. They've cultivated a layer of managers "for everything." Industries should be run by industry professionals.
        The good news is that the expertise in aircraft manufacturing has been preserved. The bad news: there are major problems with responsible management and personnel at the enterprises. Both will prevent a return to the aircraft manufacturing club.
        Well, and the incompetence of those who made promises - 'hang out nicely' And not being held accountable for anything is simply disastrous. An airplane takes 6-8 years to build, an engine 10-12 years… Any problem should have a name, surname, address, and, in the current situation, a list of property belonging to relatives. And we need to look back to the collapse of the Soviet Union; none of this happened yesterday.
    3. +1
      April 20 2026 06: 09
      In the United States, 30,000 private pilots graduate annually. The total number of active licenses is over 600,000.

      In Russia, there are only 6000 valid pilot licenses, including those obtained during training on commercial aircraft.

      What aviation? What are you talking about?
      1. 0
        April 21 2026 13: 56
        Quote: Telakh
        What are you speaking about?
        As for the harm caused by RosAviatsia? It's a 'sacred cow' of administrative resources.
        The pilot training structure simply needs to be torn down. It's neither up to par nor commercially viable in today's realities.
  2. + 23
    April 19 2026 04: 09
    Foreign Boeings and Airbuses are still flying.

    While the officials responsible for carrying out the president's orders remain in their own or some other cushy job... And what's interesting is that no one is giving them probationary positions with contract extensions based on performance... That's why the results are like this...
    1. + 34
      April 19 2026 04: 15
      The irresponsibility of the leadership leads to such results, plus the irremovability of the government, which has fed the population with promises. negative
      1. -1
        April 19 2026 16: 41
        She fed him.
        Tomorrow no one will be born and no one will die.
        Everyone will be alive and no one will kill anyone.
        Everything will be fine tonight.
        If not tomorrow, then definitely a period.
    2. -4
      April 19 2026 05: 43
      Quote: yuriy55
      That's why the result is like this...

      Look at the author of this article; he once again skimmed the surface without delving into the subject, hence the conclusions. No one believed from the start that there would be 1100 aircraft by 2030, and as always, the super-efficient manager, who is now a deputy prime minister, did his best to push through. But this time, the government has truly taken on the topic of domestic aircraft manufacturing, and that essentially means recreating every single supply chain. That means reviving hundreds of factories, designing and creating their own analogues, testing them, bringing them to certification, and launching them into production. This is never accomplished in three or four years, even in the best Soviet times, when everything worked, there were enough specialists, sufficient funding, and strict, personal control.
      What do we have?
      We're essentially already launching the new SSZh modification into production; certification is complete, and while we were preparing for it, the assembly lines weren't operational—they were building the planes and assembling them as import-substituted (I'm sick of that term, including me) components arrived. More than six months ago, nearly two dozen assembled airframes were already standing in the workshops, awaiting the completion of prototype certification and final assembly. In other words, the assembly lines weren't operational, and once certification is complete, it's no longer the "start of serial production," but the final assembly of already built and nearly complete aircraft. These are completely different timelines, and production is already ready for serial production... If the SSZh has already completed final certification, then practically all of the already assembled planes will be tested and delivered to the customer this year, and that, I repeat, means nearly two dozen already assembled and nearly fully assembled planes. And then there will be a gradual return to planned rates, and the main thing here is to avoid disruptions in cooperative deliveries.
      The situation with the MS-21 is roughly the same: six months ago, about two dozen aircraft were assembled and partially equipped, and since then they've been simply awaiting delivery of the missing components and completion of certification. And over the past six months, it's likely that several more aircraft have been added to the same state of readiness. So, if the missing components are delivered by the end of the year (as expected), then in a relatively short time (but that's next year), all of these nearly-ready aircraft will pass factory testing and be delivered to the customer. If all the missing components are ready, they will pass testing and certification. But the announcements also promised the first production MS-21s would arrive next year. But as with the SSZh-100, the customer will receive a fairly large batch at once. They're just already assembled and awaiting the final components. Meanwhile, airframe assembly and the addition of ready-made components continues, and the number of "almost-ready aircraft" is growing. And even if there's another delay, it doesn't mean "all is lost." It means that some system hasn't yet passed final certification or is fixing identified deficiencies. And when it's ready, the planes will go IMMEDIATELY. Because there are already at least two dozen of them practically ready. And perhaps even more, because the workers have been hired and the assembly lines shouldn't be idle. And they aren't.
      What else during this time?
      And this year, production of the Il-114 begins. And not only for our customers; India has also ordered them.
      It's the same story with the Tu-214. It also had a number of imported systems, and their equivalents are now expected. That is, once all the components are ready, serial production will ramp up. And it was basically impossible to do this any faster; many production facilities were practically rebuilt from scratch. But the Tu-214, with its range, covers all the routes that the MS-21 doesn't yet cover. But it doesn't quite reach it – yet. Because work on both carbon fiber and resins for the composite wing is ongoing. And when domestic carbon fiber is available that's as good as American or Japanese, along with all the other chemicals, then the MS-21 wing will be as designed. In the meantime, what we have will satisfy domestic needs.
      And now, with only three aircraft, and not even for this year, but for next year... the number of aircraft delivered to customers could seriously surprise these patriotic guards. Simply because they have no idea how many nearly finished aircraft are awaiting the last (and far from the most critical) systems for final assembly. And all the "guppies" will be surprised: "Where are all these aircraft coming from? I don't believe it." Just as they didn't believe the level of combat aircraft (and helicopter) production that has already reached. After all, it was precisely in 2022 that specialists from the civilian sector began to be transferred to the military division (while civilian airliners were still being prepared for serial production). As a result, by the end of last year, production of the Su-34M, Su-30SM2, and Su-35S reached their plateau (the maximum production capacity of their assembly lines), and the number of Su-57s produced in 2025 exceeded the annual output of any of these three heavy fighter types. And Su-57 production will continue to increase until approximately 2030, reaching a level of 90 units per year.
      That's why these fighters are already being exported. Because we already have enough (in terms of delivery rates). Algeria alone received 18 last year. This year, they'll get the same number, and Algeria has already expanded its order, taking advantage of its option and seeing that delivery rates are being maintained. Other customers are already lining up. And this is without compromising the rearmament of our own Aerospace Forces.
      How did this happen?
      "I don't believe it"?
      Plans are simply being implemented. But since these plans weren't particularly publicized (though they were published beforehand), even this year someone on our forums was whining that "we only have a handful of Su-57s, not even a regimental complement."
      And there are already three full regimental sets of them (two squadrons each), and by the end of this year, there will be over a hundred. How many combat aircraft does NATO (excluding the US) build per year? How many heavy fighters do they have? And our entire Aerospace Forces are equipped with heavy fighters. There are only two regiments of light MiG-29Ms and 29K/KUBs (two squadrons each), and even then, only one of them is carrier-based.
      There's a good saying, "Don't be charmed, lest you be disappointed," but it's also true the other way around. Civil aviation is recovering with difficulty, creaking and creaking, overcoming inertia and rebuilding entire industries for its own revival. But our two flagship projects (the SSZh-100 and MS-21) are already in the finishing stages, and dozens of nearly completed aircraft are already on the factory floors, awaiting the final components for final assembly. I don't know how many aircraft will be delivered this year, but don't be surprised if Civil Aviation receives around a hundred new aircraft in the future.
      Even the healthiest nine women, no matter how hard they try, can't give birth to one child in a month. But in nine months, each of them can easily do so. Yes If, of course, their husbands try hard enough.
      1. + 32
        April 19 2026 06: 15
        Good comment... I even shed a tear. smile
        But these are just words...which I have heard from above to the point of no return.
        I don't believe it... Chubais also promised a bunch of things to RUSNANO... where is Chubais now and where is RUSNANO?
        Actions...real actions and results will only show the truth of your words. hi
        1. +2
          April 19 2026 07: 08
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Actions...real actions and results

          Things are going according to plan in the production of heavy fighters. More than 120 units last year.
          And in the civilian division, until all the components are ready, all those dozens of already assembled aircraft will be waiting for them to arrive. That's how it is. If the SSZh-100 certification is complete and all components are available, 15-20 could be delivered to the customer by the end of this year.
          As for Manturov's promises, I've probably thrown out more epithets here than anyone else. But what can you expect from him?
          He is an ECOLOGIST!!!
          There is such a profession, and it is precisely HIM. Although he used to be in charge, now he oversees ALL industry and ALL (!!!) trade. He can and does everything, knows and is competent beyond measure. From safety pins and lace panties, to spacecraft and the aviation industry in every detail and particular. That is why he honestly and confidently said in 2022: "1100 aircraft by 2030." Without a shadow of a doubt or petty thoughts. He is a Specialist. A very broad profile.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          I don't believe it... Chubais also promised

          There's no Chubais anymore. There's Moishe. And if there's no Chubais, then there's no one to hold accountable.
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          the truthfulness of your words.

          What's the doubt? That dozens of planes have already been assembled in the workshops, waiting for missing components and certification? There have been reports about that, from those very same workshops. The planes are sitting there, waiting. So if the article is true, the Superjets will be in production this year, starting with the future MS-21. And then the Tu-214s will follow.
          This happened frequently in the USSR, too, when a component was late, but production had already begun and additional components were added upon receipt. Production was at a standstill. And now the same thing is happening. "12+1 aircraft in 4 years" is completely different from "still no components" and "dozens of aircraft are waiting for a few missing components to be delivered to the customer." And this is despite the fact that literally every industry specialist, from the first days after Manturov's bravura vow, has been saying and writing that it would take at least five years to get the industry up and running. And that's with comprehensive funding. Incidentally, funding was good, so there was money for the preemptive assembly of dozens of aircraft before certification was complete. And they took advantage of it. The missing components will arrive, and all these aircraft will take off and go to customers.
          So, the figure of 500+ aircraft by 2035 may even be a somewhat modest forecast. Because the companies are working and accumulating resources. If the general ecologist hadn't blurted out figures and deadlines on camera, there would be nothing to discuss now... But he's an artist... that's how he sees it.
          1. +1
            April 19 2026 07: 24

            Things are going according to plan in the production of heavy fighters. More than 120 units last year.

            Judging by the test flights, I see...I agree.
            1. -1
              April 19 2026 07: 48
              I'm more concerned with their combat use—the air force is quite active and regular. But if necessary, the number of strikes can be increased exponentially.
        2. 0
          April 21 2026 14: 03
          Quote: The same Lech
          Good comment... I even shed a tear...
          Everyone was in tears, but I don't understand why they gave the colleague negative marks. Things don't work that quickly in aviation, not quickly. There's a big problem with responsible management, just like everywhere else.
      2. +1
        April 19 2026 06: 16
        I gave you a thumbs up, but then an icon popped up and swears I've already checked in. However, I don't see any changes; it's still zero. Just in case, consider my verbal "okay" as justification for your optimism.
        1. +1
          April 19 2026 07: 20
          There your plus was superimposed on the minus, that’s why there was a zero, people have already joined in and added it.
          I'm more worried about the engines now; we'll need a ton of PD-14s alone. I hope there won't be a hitch with them.
          1. 0
            April 19 2026 11: 55
            Quote: bayard
            I'm more worried about the engines now... I hope there won't be a problem with them.
            It's a 50/50 chance here—whether it'll work or not. There's little reliable information, and a lot of disinformation (from both sides).
            1. 0
              April 19 2026 12: 07
              So much old canned material has been spilled on this site, spreading nonsense about layoffs at aircraft engine plants. And this is happening while production of new engine modifications for heavy fighters is ramping up, and the industry is coping quite well, having even begun exporting. There was plenty of time to prepare for serial production of the PD-14, since the certification of the aircraft itself was dragging on, and there was a good head start. And sufficient funds were allocated. So, in theory, the engine backlog should accumulate in the same way as the airframe backlog. But we have two assembly lines for the MS-21, each producing 35 units per year. Together, that's 70 aircraft per year, and that's 140 engines for the aircraft themselves alone + a minimum of 140 + 70 = 210 units per year. That's a very significant figure. But first, one line will launch and reach planned performance for several years, then the second. So there's plenty of time to get going. There are no plans to install the PD-14 anywhere else yet. But the PD-8 will power not only the SSZh-100, but also the Be-200, and possibly, in the future, an equivalent of the An-148, as well as a turboshaft version for the Mi-26M helicopter. So the engine designers have plenty of work to do. I hope they don't let us down.
      3. + 14
        April 19 2026 07: 28
        You know, I gave you a “+” for your diligence and concern.

        Just this:

        Quote: bayard
        But in nine months, each of them is EASY.


        And in more than a quarter of a century without war, without cataclysms, was it possible to give birth to SOMETHING, so that this early Europe would not show off in front of us, demonstrating its superiority?

        I understand it's difficult to change anything when you're standing on the scaffold or against the wall, but planning and strategy are precisely about calculating the positive outcome of all decisions in advance, and then no Nabiullina or Siluanov, no Oreshkins or Manturovs, no Chemezovs, no Deripaskas or Potanins will be able to change the situation a priori. And we also need accountability for the incompetent leadership that is causing millions of citizens to die without a future.

        stop And the last thing (not my conclusion, but the medical conclusion): after seventy years rare people They are capable of leading an active lifestyle, especially since they didn't create anything remarkable in their youth. Only in the epic did Ilya Muromets lie on a stove for 33 years and then go on to destroy evil spirits near Chernigov and Nightingale the Robber. In real life, it's a little different: a man lies there, pretending to be nothing, his tender gaze caressing the leader, who plucks him from oblivion, and we suddenly learn that there is and cannot be anyone wiser, more talented, more honest, and more modest than this individual in the country.
        1. +2
          April 19 2026 09: 05
          Quote: yuriy55
          And in more than a quarter of a century without war, without cataclysms, was it possible to give birth to SOMETHING, so that this early Europe would not show off in front of us, demonstrating its superiority?

          You know, there was an attempt. Just over 20 years ago, when Russia paid off all its IMF debts. And if it had been successful then... We would have lived a completely different life since then. But they didn't let us. The people who initiated financial reform/reform of the financial sector died. What's more, the "hawk" McCain flew to Moscow, threatened war, and even demanded that all nuclear weapons be handed over to the US. Just like that—directly and brazenly, like they're now demanding of Iran. And so a compromise was reached. Control of the financial sector remained with the demiurges and their protégés, but with nuclear weapons... stop It was during that period that the programs and developments we now have in service and are rightfully proud of began. And to everyone's surprise, by the start of the Second World War, our strategic nuclear forces were 90% rearmed, and new weapons systems continued to enter service and supply the Army after completing testing. Believe me, such things don't fall from the sky.

          As for the aircraft industry, it was persistently and deliberately killed. From the outside. Much has been written and talked about this. About the bribery of officials, about Boeing and Airbus pushing their own interests. And there were attempts to restart the aviation industry in the second half of the 00s. Funds were even prepared for this, to launch production of the Tu-214 and Tu-334, develop the Yak-242 (MS-21), and resume production of the Il-96... but they were not forthcoming.
          But at the same time, realizing that it wouldn't be possible to reverse reality right then and there, work began on the PD-14 and... a joint project with China on the CR-929, followed by R&D on the PD-35. They decided to try cooperation with China. They were even offered joint production of the MC-21. But they only wanted to benefit themselves, to extract and obtain free technology and experience in designing large, complex civilian aircraft.
          But all this effort left a legacy. Which is now being implemented. And when the SVO imposed all those "sanctions from Hell" on us... we simply sent them packing, and began reviving the domestic aviation industry full-cycle – in autarky. And this time, they didn't spare any expense. They used advance financing. That's why it became possible to do something unheard of in 35 years – accelerated serial production of aircraft BEFORE the certification of all domestic components was completed. No one would have been able to do that with loans, that's for sure. But I'll be honest, and I certainly won't throw my hat in the ring – the industry might not be able to provide full and final assembly this year. So, fully functional aircraft, especially the MS-21, will most likely only reach consumers next year. But they will. And if they don't stop assembling planes at factories (as a backlog), then next year, when the last components are finished being finalized and arrive on the assembly lines, we could see a salvo of very large (by our standards) batches of passenger planes. This is precisely due to the accumulated backlog. So, 500+ planes by 2035... that's already a VERY cautious and modest announcement. Moreover, our planes from our own kits will also be assembled in India. And there will be enough orders from allies and partners. So, we'll also have to expand production capacity. Iran alone wants at least 440 passenger airliners from us (300 + 140), is waiting and hasn't withdrawn its request. And that's the minimum. We have room to grow and strive for; the industry will be saturated with orders for at least 20 years of Stakhanovite labor.
          Quote: yuriy55
          After seventy years, few people are able to lead an active lifestyle

          Just look at Trump, how cheerful and active he is. You can judge him differently, but God grant everyone feels like this at 80. Ours is also keeping in shape, although all the witches and sorcerers of the former, Israel, Europe, and England are puffing away, and how many times they tried to poison and infect us (the same thing that killed a number of Latin American leaders). Sometimes a lack of information and proper critical analysis leads to erroneous opinions about facts, events, and people. Stalin also delayed the start of WWII as much as he could, and we met it unprepared. Not with our pants down, but with our pants half down – during rearmament, the deployment of the Army, and the formation of hundreds of units from scratch. With poorly trained mid-level officers, poor communications, and fighters without radios. With unfinished and very crude tanks and aircraft already in mass production... We needed "some eighteen months or two years" to prepare for war, and so Stalin dragged it out as long as he could, maneuvering diplomatically, preparing industry for evacuation, ordering no response to provocations on the new border with the Reich... And yet, both 1941 and 1942 were... catastrophic for us. And only on the Volga, when industry in Siberia and beyond the Urals had already begun to function, when the training of deployed reserve units, their manning and equipment, was completed... was it possible to turn the tide of the war.
          Stalin didn't have the same two-thirds-plus vertical power structure Hitler had built; his agents didn't control business and finance... Like in Russia. Stalin simply managed to radically purge the apparatus of enemy agents just before the war. Not all of them, unfortunately, but a very significant portion. In our current reality, the situation is far more complex and dire. I don't want to defend or justify anyone, but reality is much more complex than you think. And the outcome is still unclear. And Stalin isn't in the Kremlin. The enemy has also drawn its own conclusions and will categorically not allow another Stalin.
          Quote: yuriy55
          It was only in the epic that Ilya Muromets lay on the stove for 33 years,

          So he had an injury that was almost congenital, he got off the stove at 33 years old. bully Besides, the Magi gave him such strength. He was friends with Svyatogor himself. drinks
          1. +6
            April 19 2026 09: 56
            Quote: bayard
            Believe me, this kind of thing doesn't fall from the sky.

            This is the result of improvements made by Soviet designers who struggled with their inventions due to a lack of materials...
            Quote: bayard
            Just look at Trump, how cheerful and active he is. You can judge him in different ways, but God grant everyone to feel like this at 80 years old.

            For those meticulous people, I wrote:
            Quote: yuriy55
            after seventy years rare people capable of leading an active lifestyle, especially since they did not create anything outstanding in their youth.

            There are only a few people like Trump in the world, and in Russia even seventy-year-olds (some) look like they're going to the cemetery...
            Quote: bayard
            Besides, the Magi gave him such strength. He was friends with Svyatogor himself.

            In our country, Soviet power provided us with strength and education, and instilled in us the rational and eternal, but in practice, it turned out that the desire for profit overshadows all noble feelings and discredits any pure thoughts...
            1. -1
              April 19 2026 11: 41
              Quote: yuriy55
              This appears as a result of improvements by Soviet designers.

              Every design solution builds on previous generations. And here, it was essentially the same designers who refined their previous designs. It just takes many years from concept to practical product and testing. We were lucky; we managed to bring many of them to serial production. Under those conditions, it was oh so difficult.
              Quote: yuriy55
              There are only a few people like Trump in the world, and in Russia even seventy-year-olds (some) look like they're going to the cemetery...

              But that was about our elders in power, and judging by our behavior, you wouldn't say he's about to go to the grave. He's quite cheerful and active. His efficiency? I won't judge; we have a very peculiar territorial-state formation. And the power structure is intricate. The powers of the arbitration tower are very limited. And yet they're convinced that "we have a tsar." But we have a feudal-oligarchic state with a top manager at the helm. And yet he's been saying this about himself from the very first days.
              Quote: yuriy55
              In our country, the Soviet power gave us strength and education, and instilled in our brains something rational and eternal.

              This was my country, I grew up in it, I defended it on the southern borders, and then it was gone.
              1. 0
                April 20 2026 08: 31
                Quote: bayard
                Any design solution is based on the foundations of previous generations.

                Of course...the AK-47 is proof of that...
                And also a wheel...
                One person simply passes by a fact (phenomenon, event), and another benefits from it...
            2. -3
              April 19 2026 18: 51
              Soviet authority

              Or does it only contain temporarily unquestionable directives? The holders of the "idea" are gone - Soviet power has disintegrated.
              invested

              "put in" according to the degree of increasing decomposition
              in practice it turned out

              It just turned out that the grafting had to be done by cuttings, and not by the "Institutes of Marxism-Leninism"
              the desire for profit overshadows

              "The desire for profit... eclipses" -- well, that's serious... It's simply the instinct for personal individualistic survival, when the tribal consciousness is decomposed. Why is Dersu Uzala dear to us? He considered not only a tiger, but every living thing a relative... "Centuries have passed":)) The last connection at the level of "noble feelings" between people is joint, socially useful, productive labor (forgotten class consciousness). This is not about "achieving material wealth", are you kidding! We've already moved on from that, they said -- "They'll buy you EVERYTHING!" Just DO NOTHING!
              This is where "Mechanistic USSR 1.0" failed. It couldn't get to the heart of its own creation; the pedants got the better of it again :))...
        2. + 12
          April 19 2026 09: 47
          He lay on the stove for 33 years, and then went to destroy evil spirits.

          Evil tongues say Ilya was simply working remotely, and then enemies cut off the internet in his home village, and he had to go and destroy the evil spirits who did it...
        3. 0
          April 20 2026 12: 58
          after seventy years of age, few people are able to lead an active lifestyle,

          Not quite so, almost all people after 70 are able to lead an active lifestyle, if they have not stopped leading one by the age of 70
          And if you stopped developing at 30, stopped being interested in new things at 40, and generally stopped straining your brain at 50, then by 70 you are guaranteed to be a vegetable.
          The brain, like muscles, requires constant exercise.
          1. 0
            April 20 2026 13: 44
            Quote: bk316
            Not quite so, almost all people after 70 are able to lead an active lifestyle if...

            ...they survived this seventieth anniversary because:
            As of 2025, the average life expectancy for men in Russia is about 68 years.

            That's my argument. What's yours? Besides, I'm inclined to say that someone who hasn't distinguished themselves in anything remarkable, who hasn't tarnished their image as a genius or a great figure, can't suddenly, out of the blue, be declared the one and only for all time. Recently, a great many "worthy" people (officials) have appeared in the upper echelons of power who, before reaching the top rung of the hierarchical ladder, weren't anything special. A kind of servile mediocrity... They simply knew how to bend their backs at the right time. But not once did anyone hear them say, "Let's do it this way because it's time-tested, there are positive results, and I guarantee success with my name and position!" Who did that? Why do we take the word of people who fail to implement development programs in this or that sector? Why isn't the president surprised by the lack of even 50% results? I also can’t imagine science or industry enthusiasts who only care about their own well-being.
      4. + 16
        April 19 2026 08: 58
        Vitaly, I never cease to be amazed by your expertise. You're an aircraft specialist and an expert in all things naval, plus you're a leading expert in missile weapons and the nuclear industry, and, as you yourself say, you're almost a millionaire and a member of the government. Is there any limit to your skills and abilities?
        Plans are simply being carried out

        What are the plans for the joint Russian-Chinese aircraft CR-929, which will now go into production without the letter R, that is, without Russia? laughing
        And there are already three full regimental sets of them (Su-57) (two-squadron composition), and by the end of this year there will be over a hundred

        Bring your evidence. Otherwise, this can only be described as your wishful thinking. The "I know, trust me" option is not accepted.
        1. +2
          April 19 2026 09: 34
          hi You are a specialist in aviation technology and an expert in everything related to the navy, in addition, you are a leading expert in missile weapons and the nuclear industry, and also, according to you yourself, you are almost a millionaire and a member of the government.
          Reincarnation of Ostap-Suleiman-Berta-Maria-Bender-Bey, Bender-Zadunaisky, and also Ostap Ibrahimovic laughing
          1. -4
            April 19 2026 11: 01
            Quote: Alexey 1970
            Reincarnation

            Young man, what I'm writing is within my professional interests, based on my previous military specialization. It's all from open sources, but I know how to work with them and I follow these topics. And believe it or not, this is for priests, mullahs, rabbis, and other sectarians; they are experts in religious doctrine. Read below; I've indicated the sources and where these figures and plans were cited.
        2. -5
          April 19 2026 10: 20
          Quote: Dante
          I never cease to be amazed by your competence.

          This is a different outlook, the competencies are somewhat different.
          Quote: Dante
          You are both a specialist in aviation technology and an expert in everything related to the fleet,

          This is an area of ​​interest and partly related to previous service.
          Quote: Dante
          You are a leading expert in missile weapons.

          This is also partly due to the nature of my service (now a long time ago), as well as my acquaintance with a number of developers and designers (including the main and leading ones), and my study of intelligence bulletins over 20 years. And, in general, my interest has been with me since childhood.
          Quote: Dante
          and the nuclear industry

          Here to a much lesser extent, I was once involved in this topic, but not for long. But I like to listen to Martsinkevich, as he is an intelligent and interesting person.
          Quote: Dante
          In your own words, you're almost a millionaire

          stop Well, no, although it depends on when and what currency you count in. I had a business (long gone now, in 2014), and back in the distant 90s I interacted with and worked with all sorts of people. But that's all in the past.
          Quote: Dante
          and a member of the government.

          But you're getting confused here. My friend and I were offered positions in the Ministry of Industry and Trade, the future Ministry of Industry and Trade (my friend was supposed to be the head of the financial department, and I was supposed to be responsible for debt collection and bankruptcy proceedings). We declined. A friend (from our student days) of Gaidar's made the offer.
          Quote: Dante
          Is there any limit to your skills and abilities?

          Well, that's not all, of course, there are other professions, skills, and abilities. I've been around for a long time and tried a lot. But have you never met people like that? You're a sociable person, haven't this ever happened?
          How's your friend Voevoda? Glad to be alive. Assaults are tough, sure, but they're apparently offering him an officer's position (even if it's just platoon commander). Although, using a combat pilot... well... that's kind of strange. But there's too much strangeness in the current reality. Especially in this SVO.
          Quote: Dante
          Plans are simply being carried out

          This is about plans for heavy fighters; there's no point in manipulating them like that and reducing them to the 929, which I've already written about many times in my time, along with Manturov's role in that stupidity. You should have simply prepared for domestic production of this aircraft, as the Chinese suggested, since they couldn't draw up a proper contract and so bailed you out.
          Quote: Dante
          will it now go into production without the letter R, that is, without Russia?

          It won't go anywhere—they don't have the engines, avionics, or other Western components for it; they've already ditched them. They can't even build their own 919, which has already entered production—it's turned out to be as much of a Lego set as our original SSZh-100 and MS-21. They approached us for the PD-35, saying we'd buy it cheap, along with all the documentation and manufacturing process. They were told: if you want the engine, order a large, long-run batch.
          We have the technical documentation for the 929, it's still there, so there's nothing stopping us from working on it in the future (decade), when the engine is ready. Well, we can't just attach it to the Il-96, which is already an anomaly and will have to be radically redesigned.
          Quote: Dante
          And there are already three full regimental sets of them (Su-57) (two-squadron composition), and by the end of this year there will be over a hundred
          Evidence in the studio.

          Information from the report and price list at last year's exhibition in China, and then in India. There were reports on production plans and the implementation of those plans. That's why customers followed them. That's why they offered it for export. The first six units were delivered to Algeria last year, plus six Su-34Es, plus six Su-35SEs, for a total of 18 units. The same number this year. The order has already been expanded; the option was taken up. You're supposedly a military blogger, aren't you following them? I have professional skills and a special relationship with aviation, but you're young and have pilots as friends. Aren't you interested?
          Quote: Dante
          Option: I know - believe me, it is not accepted.

          Well, if you're so incurious and don't follow the material on the topic, if it's not in your interests, maybe you don't need it? You're probably too lazy to look for those reports from the exhibition even now. I can't remember if I watched them on YouTube or Rutube. Do a search; they're really interesting, and they're on the Sukhoi price list.
          1. 0
            April 19 2026 19: 19
            You're supposedly a military blogger, don't you follow them?

            You're clearly confusing me with someone else. I'm just a local resident of the Vologda Oblast, not a blogger or a public figure. I don't need one; life has taught me to be content with little, so I don't mind letting others get the credit. Thanks for the tip; if I find this information, I'll definitely check it out. The main thing is for the advertising to somehow correlate with reality and not be another smokescreen for foreign buyers, or as you described about the domestic civil aircraft industry—the airframes are ready, but the "hanging fruit" is still out there somewhere. As for the idea that Iranian and Indian buyers are about to start buying our aircraft en masse, the former, it seems, won't be interested in civil aircraft for a long time, while the latter may be willing to buy and even manufacture aircraft with a screwdriver, but for rupees. Since no one except India needs its currency, we're immediately being offered the chance to invest those rupees in investment projects in India. A good scenario. Receive the goods, stimulate our production, and all this practically for "thanks," or rather, for a spot on the shareholder list, whose dividends are still some time away. And if we refuse, the Indian company will simply continue to buy Boeings or Airbuses, which are already present on the Indian market, temporarily abandoning its ambitions to acquire its own medium-haul aircraft, essentially losing nothing.
            1. -3
              April 19 2026 21: 37
              Quote: Dante
              I'm just a local resident of VO,

              Well, it happens, he used to hang out here too, we talked.
              Quote: Dante
              Thanks for the tip, if I find this information I'll definitely check it out.

              There were exactly two of those reports, and the exhibitions followed literally one after the other, with our aircraft simply flying from China to India. And the breakdown of the number of fighters produced per year was provided precisely to show that the plans for increasing production to the maximum capacity of the lines were being met (at that time, 2025 was only in the first half) and that by the end of 2025, three types were expected to reach a "plateau" of 30 units per year for each type. And these very plans for the end of 2025 had been announced back in the second half of 2022 and in 2023. Production reports for each type through the end of 2023 were freely available, but the latest figures for the end of 2024 were no longer complete. I'm talking about open sources and data from the heads and deputies of Rostec and UAC. I learned that the 2025 plans had been fulfilled in late December. The details are that 28 Su-34Ms were delivered last year, but just in the first ten days of January, another batch was delivered, with a backlog of last year's deliveries already incurred, now offset by the current year's. And yes, I was amused to learn that the data I posted in December and January in comments on VO caused quite a stir and was not only repeated (citing an "anonymous VO commentator from the intelligence community") not only by several websites in Russia but also in the West. Furthermore, questions about the veracity of this data were raised with the management of Rostec and UAC, and the management of these organizations confirmed its accuracy. So my data on heavy fighter production has been verified by the management of UAC and Rostec. But on my part, this was simply an analysis and compilation of data from open sources. If I knew any secret information, you would never hear it from me. So, have no doubt, including that the troops already have three regimental sets of Su-57s, each with two squadrons. Last year, there were 36 units. This year, according to my forecast, based on data from the report from the exhibition in India, I expect around 45 units. Next year, based on the results, the second line should reach the planned indicators (30 units), and the third assembly line will probably produce its first products. Which will probably produce the two-seater version. And there are no fairy tales or "miracles" here; it's just that before the SVO, the VKS ordered aircraft at the bare minimum. Why is not a question for me; there is some kind of politics there.
              Incidentally, the Su-75's first flight is being pushed back – the promised first flight last summer, autumn, and late December... didn't happen. "Early 2026" also wasn't confirmed. But there's no need to worry about that; some changes have been made to the airframe, and they'll likely install the new Izdeliye-177 engine right away, which makes perfect sense. Besides, the Aerospace Forces haven't yet expressed any intention to purchase these aircraft (heavy aircraft are more reliable, and we train pilots a bit slower than we build aircraft). But the Aerospace Forces are definitely interested in the unmanned version of the Su-75. Just in case it's interesting.
              Quote: Dante
              Or as you described about the domestic civil aircraft industry - the hulls are there and ready, but the "suspended" ones are still somewhere out there.

              What kind of "overhanging"? lol Didn't you read the article? It also states that five systems are not ready for the MS-21. Nothing "critical," but the aircraft won't go into production without them. They promise to complete certification of these systems by the end of this year. From memory, they include: a weather radar (small, in the nose under the fairing), an anti-icing system, and three more. These are already the final touches, so we can confidently gather the groundwork, and next year, all the accumulated systems will be delivered to the customer at once. By then, there could be up to thirty of them. But I still have doubts and worries about the rhythm of PD-14 deliveries. However, UEC is quite confident in handling military engines, so I think they will master civilian ones as well. After all, our industry is currently fully loaded with very good and long-term orders for the next 15-20 years. I hope the "traitors at the throne" don't do anything nasty.
              And if China does decide to order engines for its 919 and 929 from us for a long time, then our engine manufacturers will now have to expand and increase their existing capacities several times over.
              Quote: Dante
              Now that buyers from Iran and India will start buying our aircraft en masse, it seems the former will have no time for civilian aircraft for a long time to come.

              It depends on how the war goes. They ordered the Su-35SE and either the MiG-29M or MiG-35SE from us last year, but they haven't sent them into combat yet – pilots are just getting the hang of the aircraft, and there aren't many of them. As for the civilian ones, they've got such ancient aircraft flying and being maintained that as soon as we have the opportunity to export and their war is over, they'll place massive orders right away. They simply have nowhere else to buy aircraft. India already has orders and pre-contracts for the Il-114 and SSZh-100. First, they'll deliver them as complete aircraft, then they'll deliver them as kits with an assembly license (that's a kit at the price of a finished aircraft, but that's exactly what they want), so the industry will be fully loaded. There will be orders from other countries, too, but we're already happy with what we have. With the Indians, orders for hundreds of new light helicopters are also on the horizon - they are waiting for our Ka-226 with VK-650.
              Quote: Dante
              ready, but for rupees

              What else can we trade in? So we trade in rubles and rupees, dollars and euros are no longer available to us - the bastards will arrest us. And the Indians don't have that much yuan. But India has interesting goods for us, and to have enough of these goods, certain industries need to be developed there. Investing there is nothing new for us, Lukoil alone has over 2000 gas stations there, and that's not counting its own refineries. There's a war now, Russia needs a lot of gunpowder, all kinds, it's made from cotton. India has a lot of cotton, but gunpowder, propellant charges, and tank shells can be made right there. It's warm there and labor is cheaper. So they built a gunpowder factory there and a factory to produce 125mm tank shells. For us, and for India too. It’s good for both - for the same rupees, there is the necessary product, and their own production there, and profit from the enterprises for Russian investors.
              Or right now we have a huge demand for ocean-going vessels. From ice-class and standard tankers to dry cargo ships, gas carriers, and container ships. Our own capacity is limited, the climate is SEVERE (WINTER!), and the cost is 1,5-2 times higher than in Korea, let alone India. It's even difficult for us to find a suitable location for a shipyard with an ice-free port. But in India, it's eternal summer, labor is cheap and plentiful (and you can hardly find any more shipbuilders for the Far East here), so we'll build a super-shipyard there and build ocean-going (and other) vessels there. This year, the first 10 river-sea vessels with a deadweight of 10,000 tons are supposed to be delivered to us for... the Caspian Sea and the Volga-Don Canal. We'll have to tow them through the Suez Canal, the Black Sea Straits, and then to the Caspian. Because we don't have enough time on our own. And look at how many rupees are involved. And our factories are in warm climates on warm seas. And this is much more profitable than simply buying or ordering ships for the same rupees. Building them ourselves is much more profitable, more interesting, and under our control, quality and compliance with standards. And about "investing in our own country"... well, we don't even have enough labor for such investments. But "investing" in Russia with ships and other derivative goods from India, in something that will operate in Russia and bring benefits and profit, is good. Or would it have been better to order from Finland and Holland? So here we are (conditionally):
              - we earn money by supplying aircraft (various),
              - we earn money by producing goods for Russia at OUR factories in India,
              - We earn money by supplying goods from India to Russia, and we invest the proceeds in Russia itself.
              And try to prove that this is worse or less profitable than simply selling the planes for dollars, and the IMF will simply arrest them or not allow the payment.
              Trade with India for rupees was a problem in the early days of the Central Asian War, when we nearly increased our trade volumes with the Indians by an order of magnitude, but they simply didn't have the goods we needed—they simply didn't produce them because there were no pre-orders. And now, businesses there are booming on our rupee orders. Remember that Indian cartoon where Putin and Modi are riding a motorcycle, and Modi is just bursting with joy? And have you noticed that our store shelves are full of imported goods from all over the world, as if there were no blockade or sanctions?
              Parallel import?
              He... And it's happening to a large extent through Indian companies and firms. And there are plans to bring mutual trade up to the level of our trade with China. After all, it's very profitable to trade high-tech goods (aircraft, weapons, air defense systems) and buy cheap consumer goods from India in exchange. This is precisely what benefits US.
        3. +3
          April 19 2026 22: 11
          One of the signs of schism is a colorful and verbose description of one’s fantasies.
          I have been observing this gentleman and his exercises for a long time, and I get the impression that he has long been acquainted with a doctor such as a psychiatrist.
      5. +7
        April 19 2026 09: 13
        Only the factories that are supposed to make engines for these ashcans have announced staff reductions - I'm talking about Omsk!
        1. -10
          April 19 2026 11: 08
          Quote: Ivan 1980
          announced staff reductions

          Are you sure about this? Because if it's true, then there's a war with NATO this year and it's too late to build planes. Are you sure of your information? Because I saw those planes/gliders, but it's usually the spies who spread such nonsense here.
          Has the can opened?
          1. 0
            April 22 2026 08: 22
            I see that the workers at this plant are already being cut, as they themselves say.
            1. 0
              April 22 2026 14: 10
              I can't see them from Donetsk, but if that were the case, the entire civil aircraft manufacturing program would be shut down. Instead, they're rushing ahead with the assembly of production aircraft. I won't argue with you; maybe there's sabotage by the contractors, but this is a priority state program and is financed by advance payments from the government, not commercial loans.
              Sabotage may occur, but then there will be a reaction. So I don't believe it until there's confirmed data. Production of engines for combat aircraft is increasing at a Stakhanovite pace, but for civil aviation... it's being curtailed? And this is when the fleet urgently needs to be updated?
              We'll see at the end of this year and next year.
      6. +3
        April 19 2026 09: 52
        How long did it take you to come up with this nonsense? Where do you all come from?
      7. +1
        April 19 2026 12: 43
        It's not all as rosy as you wrote.
        1. -5
          April 19 2026 15: 51
          Where did you see the rainbow? Those dozens of unassembled aircraft will remain unassembled unless 100% of the components begin arriving precisely and consistently, in the ordered quantities, at the required quality, and on time, to the assembly lines of aircraft factories. This can be considered the factory's reserve; it is large (certainly for the start of production), at a sufficiently high level of completeness, and it exists.
          But this is for two flagship types of liners.
    3. -4
      April 19 2026 11: 42
      Oh, if only I could convey all this to the president...
  3. + 20
    April 19 2026 04: 32
    The situation is well illustrated by the episode "Report to the Top." This story is a parody of production reports...

    1. + 11
      April 19 2026 05: 19
      I watched it and laughed!)))
      And, indeed, that's exactly how it is. For example, with Kupyansk...
    2. -1
      April 19 2026 22: 16
      Why is this ****** Kharlamov and this trash show here? Just watch his "number" Prokhor and Stalin, a vile libel on our soldiers and the Great Patriotic War, for which this Garrick should be castrated.
  4. + 12
    April 19 2026 04: 50
    "If this isn't a failure, then what is a failure? Or a decline?" - This is negative growth!
  5. +7
    April 19 2026 04: 51
    Russia can build airplanes.

    Like in the old joke
    Wants to, but can't - impotent
    He can, but he doesn't want to - *
  6. +5
    April 19 2026 05: 09
    What can I say. request
    I will say it in the words of Comrade Stalin...
    Comrade Beria, what's the matter?????
    Figure it out...I'll give you three days.
    am
    1. +8
      April 19 2026 05: 15
      It feels like those who announce the launch of various state programs are simply leading Putin and Russian society by the nose.
      They got money for the case... but there are no results or they are minimal... what's the matter???
      Where do state resources go?
      1. +7
        April 19 2026 09: 54
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        Where do state resources go?

        Where, where... Wherever they need to go, that's where they go!
      2. +3
        April 19 2026 11: 43
        They're deceiving the president! Scoundrels!
  7. +2
    April 19 2026 05: 13
    Given the country's size and the remoteness of its settlements, transportation accessibility is vital for security, normal functioning, and development. Ensuring transportation accessibility should be a state responsibility. A state-owned airline should be created whose primary goal will not be to make money, but to ensure transportation accessibility for the country's residents. Then the production and operation of the Il-96 and Tu-214 will become justified and feasible. Commercial airlines should be left to handle tourist flights and international routes.
    1. + 15
      April 19 2026 05: 46
      In principle, yes. But if we look at the broader picture, the state has been steadily shifting all practical functions from itself to private capital and the notorious "market" for the last decades of the "new" era.
      That is, reserving for itself the function of "general management." The rest should be handled brilliantly by a market economy.
      The collapse of civil aviation once again demonstrates the flaws of the near-bourgeois economic model, especially its "Eastern" version. This is when businesses are undertaken primarily for personal enrichment rather than for the prosperity of the nation.
    2. +1
      April 19 2026 11: 46
      Yeah, but if the planes aren't efficient, ticket prices will skyrocket, and the government will have to subsidize the company to ensure transportation accessibility. Everyone knows the country's budget situation right now.
      1. -1
        April 19 2026 15: 47
        The government is still underfunding the aviation industry. What's the point of pouring billions into developing aircraft if no one will buy them?
  8. +8
    April 19 2026 05: 51
    There's a lot of pessimism and not enough enthusiasm about the fact that by 203 we...

    They ask the camel: Why is your back crooked?
    - Where and what is straight in me? - the camel is surprised.
    1. +2
      April 19 2026 11: 46
      This has never happened before, and here again!
  9. ayk
    -1
    April 19 2026 06: 13
    The only chance is cooperation with China. At the same time, we need to develop our own aircraft industry, investing trillions of rubles—there's no other way. The country has the money.
    1. +1
      April 19 2026 07: 42
      Unfortunately, China is also on the hook for the West; all equipment is licensed, and the aircraft, like ours, are not import-substituted.
      1. ayk
        -3
        April 19 2026 07: 58
        China has its own large-scale aircraft manufacturing program. We need to pool our efforts. Take the Chinese auto industry, for example, which is becoming a global leader.
        1. 0
          April 19 2026 10: 02
          I once helped a friend choose a Chinese car. They're all pretty good, but they all have licensed Western, American, or Japanese engines and transmissions. The same goes for marine engines, as well as aircraft engines. Of course, sooner or later they'll design their own, but where will we be?
    2. +5
      April 19 2026 11: 48
      The main question is: why does China need such cooperation? It would subject them to sanctions, and we currently have nothing to offer them in the way of civil aviation technologies.
      1. ayk
        -6
        April 19 2026 12: 32
        He'll be sanctioned no matter what. An attack on Iran is an attack on China. The most important thing we can offer is engines.
        1. +6
          April 19 2026 12: 42
          An attack on Iran is an attack on China - can you confirm this with statements from Chinese officials?
          People like us won't fall under sanctions, no. The Chinese leadership has a head on its shoulders and a responsibility to its people.
          So, we buy Chinese engines and gearboxes for cars, and we'll sell them engines for passenger airliners - that made me laugh)))
          China is currently buying Western engines for its aircraft, while simultaneously developing its own. It has no use for ours.
          1. ayk
            -5
            April 19 2026 13: 11
            The United States has recognized China as its main rival. A struggle for global leadership has begun between them. So, the best is yet to come. Russia will play a key role, and whichever side it takes will win.
            1. +3
              April 19 2026 13: 32
              To be honest, I would like our great country to take such a role.
              But, unfortunately, your words evoke nothing but sarcasm. Look at any macroeconomic indicators. There are no industries in which we are competitive. Except, perhaps, civilian nuclear energy.
              1. ayk
                -4
                April 19 2026 14: 42
                We have good potential, we just need the right economic and industrial policy.
                1. +3
                  April 19 2026 14: 45
                  That's true. Under current conditions, it will take decades. Just to reach the level of developed countries. Too much has been lost.
                  1. ayk
                    -4
                    April 19 2026 15: 22
                    There's nothing we can do about it now. The scientific and technological revolution is upon us, and we need to catch the last train. If we're lucky, we might just get ahead.
                    1. +1
                      April 19 2026 19: 07
                      Quote: Ayk
                      There's nothing we can do about it now. The scientific and technological revolution is upon us, and we need to catch the last train. If we're lucky, we might just get ahead.

                      Have you got a government order to create a positive mood among the population against the backdrop of a collapsing economy?
                      1. ayk
                        -1
                        April 20 2026 01: 54
                        Are you our resident pessimist?
                      2. +1
                        April 20 2026 10: 40
                        Quote: Ayk
                        Are you our resident pessimist?

                        Realist.
                      3. ayk
                        0
                        April 20 2026 11: 05
                        This is a subjective view. The glass is either half full or half empty. You exaggerate the negative factors and ignore the positive ones.
  10. +2
    April 19 2026 06: 19
    Quote: Ayk
    There is money in the country.

    There are not that many Chinese. what
  11. Owl
    + 20
    April 19 2026 06: 21
    The entire economic crisis in Russia is the result of the "work" of neo-feudal lords in power, who are hoisting their children and accomplices into lucrative positions to "make money." Unprofessionalism, "golden parachutes," a purely ostentatious patriotism (real patriotism has been absent since the 90s), mutual responsibility ("we don't abandon our own people, we transfer them to other positions"), lack of control, and impunity—these are the main characteristics of the "financial and economic management elite." If, under a fair and competent tax system, funds were invested not "in their own pockets" but in the development of science and production, then airplanes in Russia would be produced on an assembly line (like Boeing and Airbus), and the population would not be raising funds for children's medical treatment or purchasing drones for the fighting army. No demand—no positive result.
    1. +5
      April 19 2026 11: 52
      They just think everyone has the memory of a fish – 3 seconds. They talked about nanotechnology… Then they talked about Skolkovo… Then about the Angara and how our ships ply the vastness of the universe… Then about 1000 airplanes… Soon they’ll talk about something else.
  12. +8
    April 19 2026 06: 44
    The KPGA failed for a simple reason. The government allocated enough money. Mishustin had no issues whatsoever. And then our beloved Central Bank started fighting inflation (apparently that's what industry is called now) and raised the refinancing rate. Let's face it, almost all our equipment is imported. And everything else, too. Industry has cheap money, but suppliers don't. And suddenly, all the programs became 30 percent more expensive. They all have advances to foreign manufacturers, which is a loan, and NOTHING can be done with the allocated funds.
    1. 0
      April 19 2026 11: 56
      Here are Solovyov's witnesses. Everyone knows that the government allocates funds to those who need them at a rate much lower than the Central Bank's refinancing rate. Otherwise, we wouldn't have such a run-up in inflation with such rates. And if the Central Bank hadn't raised the rate, public sector workers with their salaries and pensions would have been howling long ago due to even higher inflation than we have now.
      1. 0
        April 19 2026 12: 43
        Read what I wrote.
        Suppliers sell the equipment. Construction firms build it. They don't rely on government funding. So, there was one price, then a new rate, and the price changed dramatically. And all the plans go down the drain.
        And if there are no taxes on industry, then all public sector employees and pensioners will quickly suffer.
        1. +1
          April 19 2026 12: 49
          So, what should the Central Bank do, in your opinion, if inflation drops to 15% at the current rate? I hope you won't try to prove that the current inflation rate is 5%, like Rosstat says.
          Should we lower the rate so that inflation by 20 or 25 drops to the level seen in Zimbabwe? With that kind of inflation, it's more profitable for the owner of any construction company or supplier to bank and earn interest than to build or produce anything with it. And I mentioned public sector employees and pensioners above. The current situation is clearly not due to the Central Bank.
          1. -2
            April 19 2026 13: 03
            Before the current rate was introduced, inflation was either 2 or 4 percent. It wasn't! The fact that people started earning and spending more isn't inflation. It's simply that it became impossible to take money out of the country.
            Fighting inflation by raising everything is idiotic. It's like giving someone in kindergarten a hard time because they complained about something. Strangling business and industry isn't fighting inflation; it's fighting business and industry.
            Which is exactly what happened. It's better to put your money in the bank to avoid losing at least something.
            How many times have these guys devalued the ruble in recent years? And where else has something like this happened?
            1. 0
              April 19 2026 13: 23
              Dear Sir, raising the Central Bank rate reduces inflation—it's written in any textbook. But inflation increases because the government has started handing out money to people, while consumer goods production has declined, goods are scarcer, and they're more expensive.
              And the production of consumer goods began to decline, because guns are now more important than butter.
              1. +1
                April 19 2026 16: 11
                Oh well laughing laughing laughing
                It depends on which textbooks.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2026 16: 17
                  You won't believe it, any))
                  100%
                  1. 0
                    April 20 2026 16: 56
                    I will not believe.
                    It's just life: the loan interest rate CANNOT be lower than the refinancing rate. How do you repay it? If you borrowed it for business? Raise the price of the product. Or cut expenses. There are no other options. What does cutting expenses mean in your textbooks? Probably something clever. But I know how: layoffs, reduction in actual wages. In other words, increased use. Or do you think the owner would deny himself a new Porsche? Or his wife a box of diamonds?
                    So, what's the textbook stuff? Title and author, please. And the page where the advice came from.
  13. +9
    April 19 2026 07: 11
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Chubais also promised

    The flexible tablet alone was worth it!
  14. + 10
    April 19 2026 07: 17
    This severe slowdown in the aviation industry was completely predictable at the very beginning of the import substitution journey for the MC-21. We don't have that level of research now; it's been lost, and funding for it is meager. And that's precisely where all the problems stem from. Composite materials, for example, require advanced chemistry, which we lack, as do electronics, and so on. And even in the field of specialized education, if you look at the number of people we have training for science, it's also meager.
  15. + 12
    April 19 2026 07: 19
    This is the result of Yeltsman's continued policies, and in all spheres... it's simply the theft of our resources and the genocide of the Russian people... and they can lie, betray, and steal.
  16. 0
    April 19 2026 07: 20
    Quote: bayard
    But he is an artist... that's how he sees it.

    smile
    An artist of various profiles.

    The planes will take off... and begin their work, and then the weight of your words will become a tangible and convincing confirmation. hi
    Hope so.
  17. +8
    April 19 2026 07: 48
    And when they do come, they won't be very good and there won't be many of them.

    But the USSR made a lot of good airplanes. Isn't that something domestic capitalists couldn't handle?

    The price had to be paid for by the flight range, which ultimately dropped almost in half: from 6400 kilometers to 3830.

    So, our modern aircraft with a black composite wing turned out worse than the Chinese COMAC C919 with an old metal wing and a range of 4100 km?

    Five foreign systems have yet to be replaced. The icing system, collision avoidance system, weather radar, power supply, and toilet are all still awaiting replacement.
    We did everything before, but now it turns out we’ve lost our skills?
    1. +1
      April 19 2026 13: 01
      Let's be fair, the USSR made good combat aircraft. They also made good airframes for passenger aircraft. Engines and avionics were always inferior to Western models. This explains shorter service intervals, higher fuel consumption, a three-person crew instead of two, and so on.
      If you really want to build your own airplanes, you need to start with the industries that produce aircraft components: chemistry for wing composites, microelectronics for avionics, precision engineering for engines, and so on.
      But “just giving someone money” doesn’t work like that… there will be no planes, no money))))
      Here we need to start by investing in education and science. We need to create an investment climate so that capitalists aren't afraid to invest in these sectors. We need to ensure a state based on the rule of law—as enshrined in the constitution.
      Somehow those damned capitalists, Boeings and Airbuses, do it.
      1. -2
        April 19 2026 19: 15
        Quote: canelo
        Here we need to start by investing in education and science. We need to create an investment climate so that capitalists aren't afraid to invest in these sectors. We need to ensure a state based on the rule of law—as enshrined in the constitution.

        And all this amid sanctions, crappy demographics, and other favorable circumstances. Perhaps, under the current circumstances, the most realistic scenario is that reptilians from Nibiru will arrive and save our economy.
        1. 0
          April 19 2026 21: 46
          This question should be asked to someone who has everything according to plan and ahead of schedule.
          Let's just give them money and they'll build us so many planes in so many years—that's not how it works. The state has been giving money to AvtoVAZ my entire adult life. Has it helped much?
          1. 0
            April 20 2026 10: 44
            Quote: canelo
            This question should be asked to someone who has everything according to plan and ahead of schedule.
            Let's just give them money and they'll build us so many planes in so many years—that's not how it works. The state has been giving money to AvtoVAZ my entire adult life. Has it helped much?

            I simply said all this to show that your words, in the current circumstances, are nothing more than good wishes. And there are no signs of them being realized.
  18. -3
    April 19 2026 07: 53
    We can't design a toilet?.. Wow... although the Americans, having spent 23 million, also failed to cope with the task...
  19. +4
    April 19 2026 08: 00
    We need to clean things up from the top down, not the back. Throwing civil aircraft specialists to help the military is stupid. They need fitters, assemblers, and electricians more. Until they restore the Ministry of Aviation Industry, there's no point. With our mentality and habits of stealing, a private owner will never get any aircraft flying. This is evident in the Superjet, the MS-21, and the Baikal. The Novosibirsk Flight Institute has already lost its nerve, screaming for money, we'll restore and repair the An-2, and that money is pennies compared to how much was stolen from Superjets, etc. There are airworthy planes, but they're parked—I'm talking about 400 Yak-40s! We can also scrape the bottom of the barrel for other makes. The Belarusians are restoring the Il-62, for example.
    1. 0
      April 19 2026 13: 07
      A private owner will never steal simply because in this case he is stealing from himself)))
      If specific government officials allocated money to "special private entities" for airplanes/Olympics/a spaceport, it's important to emphasize that they should return half of that money—those government officials should be held accountable. Or are you not aware of how things work here?
  20. +9
    April 19 2026 08: 18
    Even if the design is perfected and ready for production, the biggest question is, who will build it? "Valuable specialists"? We currently have about 60% of these specialists working on one of our petrochemical facilities. And the worst part is, what they're creating is a ticking time bomb. At the previous site, after such an incident, the furnace coils started leaking from chemically treated steel. It turned out the core and filler were welded with electrodes made for ordinary structural steel (cherry). Everyone knows everything and is eager to hire these specialists. Imagine if they also start making airplanes...
  21. -5
    April 19 2026 09: 22
    1081 units, specific figure on paper


    1081 is a number, not a digit.
  22. +4
    April 19 2026 09: 22
    Dealers can only destroy, not build.
    Although they built a lot of houses, the quality is crap.
  23. -5
    April 19 2026 09: 35
    The author is slightly distorting the facts.
    The first flight of the MS-21 with PD-14 engines took place on December 15, 2020, not October 2025. On October 7, 2022, the first prototype of the aircraft, which previously had Pratt & Whitney PW1428G engines, made its first flight with PD-14 engines.
    The first fully import-substituted MS-21 made its maiden flight in April 2025. It was joined by a second import-substituted model in October 2025.
    Certification testing is underway, with the certification deadline set for the end of 2026. Fourteen of the 18 MS-21 airframes contracted by airlines have already been manufactured in Irkutsk.
    1. +5
      April 19 2026 10: 05
      There are no 14 planes there...Were you personally shown these planes at the factory?
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  24. -3
    April 19 2026 09: 45
    I didn't see the words of Rosaviatsiya head Dmitry Yadrov about "five foreign systems that have not yet been replaced." In fact, he said that five of the aircraft's more than 200 systems and subsystems are in the final stages of approval.
  25. +6
    April 19 2026 09: 53
    They can only criticize the USSR and Stalin, steal the country's wealth, but in reality, it's a dud!
  26. +8
    April 19 2026 10: 15
    But in the Soviet Union, they only made galoshes, as our sweetheart deputies say, and you can't even make galoshes, you buy them in China 🇨🇳. AVTOVAZ is a complete disgrace to the planet Earth. Over thirty years of rule, everything has been completely destroyed.
  27. +6
    April 19 2026 10: 23
    Quote: Mikhail-Ivanov
    The aviation project was initially highly controversial. After lengthy discussions, Chief Leopold ultimately decided in favor of domestic aircraft manufacturing. The outcome is before our eyes.
    And here, unfortunately, it’s like this almost everywhere and in everything...
    And what a country it was!

    Yes, relatives Borki the Drunk It was raging in those years. They bought old Airbuses and Boeings, destroying our aviation industry like Mamai.
    And the factories died quietly.
    In its best years, the USSR produced more than 150 airliners per year, not counting agricultural aircraft, military transport aircraft, and helicopters.
    On domestic aircraft (they still fly in some places!), passengers were transported throughout the CMEA, in South America, and in a number of African countries.

    P.S. They say it's precisely for the destruction of the domestic aviation industry that Boeing hung a portrait of Borka the alcoholic in its headquarters. We built an entire Eltsyn Center in his honor.
    So that young people learn how to sell Russia.
    1. mz
      +3
      April 19 2026 12: 45
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      Yes, Borka the alcoholic's relatives were on a rampage in those years. They bought up old Airbuses and Boeings, destroying our aviation industry like Mamai.
      And the factories died quietly.
      In its best years, the USSR produced more than 150 airliners per year, not counting agricultural aircraft, military transport aircraft, and helicopters.
      On domestic aircraft (they still fly in some places!), passengers were transported throughout the CMEA, in South America, and in a number of African countries.

      P.S. They say it's precisely for the destruction of the domestic aviation industry that Boeing hung a portrait of Borka the alcoholic in its headquarters. We built an entire Eltsyn Center in his honor.


      Zero customs duties on the import of foreign aircraft were introduced under Putin: Russian Government Resolution No. 844 of December 6, 2007, which was repeatedly re-signed.
    2. +2
      April 19 2026 13: 10
      The year was 2050. That damned drunkard Borka continued to destroy our country…
  28. + 10
    April 19 2026 10: 25
    The collapse of the empire is visible in every article, the government is increasingly criticized, the economy is plummeting ever faster! Something is brewing, and quite soon. How lucky we are to live in such times :(
  29. +5
    April 19 2026 10: 31
    Yes! The program has completely failed! There won't be 500 planes by 2031! That's as clear as day!
  30. -5
    April 19 2026 10: 40
    Airplanes aren't cakes; you can't just bake them from scratch. Haste here means piles of corpses and a ruined program.
  31. +5
    April 19 2026 10: 41
    No matter how much they criticize the communist party members, the USSR could do it!
    The USSR did this, and in terms of the number of airliners, the Soviet aviation industry was ~ the American one.
    And what now?
  32. +5
    April 19 2026 11: 02
    The "effective managers" have it all figured out: they make a couple of planes, then spend a decade fine-tuning and testing them, spending hundreds of billions of rubles in the process. And then, ten years later, the result is nothing. Until these "effective managers" live and sleep in factories, like Korolev (until the plan is met), there will be no results.
  33. +8
    April 19 2026 11: 20
    Is there even one area where we don’t have a failure?
    1. +8
      April 19 2026 11: 57
      Quote from: newtc7
      Is there even one area where we don’t have a failure?

      The tax-extraction industry and the fine-processing industry are operating successfully! Budgets at all levels are being successfully utilized! Roskomnadzor is successfully blocking messaging apps and the internet and generally increasing budget revenue. And don't forget that the extraction and export of resources from the country at low cost is also proceeding successfully.
      We need to be more positive! We have everything!
  34. +5
    April 19 2026 11: 38
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: novel xnumx
    They have cultivated a layer of managers

    Not just managers, but top executives with unrealistically huge salaries and bonuses. And as our president said, if they weren't paid that much, they'd be bought off abroad!
    And I was thinking: maybe it would be for the best if they were all bought out?

    What are you talking about? Do you want them to destroy the decaying West?
    1. -2
      April 19 2026 12: 29
      The fact that the supposedly "new wing made of new materials passed all the tests, but had to pay with weight: 5,75 tons more than the American one" is extremely dubious information.
      If your empty MS-21 weighs, for example, 43.4 tons, and the weight of the wing in airplanes usually makes up 12–18% of the total weight (on average 15%), then multiplying the percentage by 43.4 tons we get 6.5 tons, now we add these same 5.75 tons, we get 12.5 tons or 29% of the weight of the empty airplane!!!
  35. +2
    April 19 2026 12: 00
    Author: "Replacing the American composites failed. Yes, the new wing, made from new materials, passed all the tests in terms of strength and safety, but the price was weight: 5,75 tons heavier than the American one."
    In fact, the maximum takeoff weight increased by 5,75 tons (from 79,25 tons to 85 tons). I couldn't find the exact increase in empty weight. It probably did increase because the onboard equipment was replaced, and domestically produced electronics were usually heavier.
    Incidentally, the 6400 km range was never mentioned. The ferry range (with a full tank and no payload) was claimed to be 6000 km before import substitution, and 3500 km with a full payload. An attempt to calculate the range of the import-substituted aircraft was made on the website https://www.frequentflyers.ru/2025/11/12/mc-21_weight/, and the result is something like 5085 km for ferry flight and 3162 km with a full payload.
  36. +1
    April 19 2026 12: 15
    IMHO, everyone should have gotten used to the fact that our promise-makers lie and lie with impunity.

    But every time everyone either believes or pretends to believe the same promises.
    1000 planes...3000 armaments...to Mars by 2019...there will be no war...there will be no pension reform...etc.

    IMHO, it's high time we got used to the fact that the untouchables lie and lie with impunity, doing their business behind their backs.
    Here's the news: a bunch of companies producing aircraft engines and components are either suing en masse for non-payment or are on the brink of bankruptcy. And next to it: the incomes and salaries of their executives have increased exponentially in the past year... (from media articles)

    IMHO, will they steal everything and send it abroad to the children? Or will they continue to steal and make promises for a long time?
  37. -6
    April 19 2026 12: 37
    Don't we have passenger planes based on the Il-76? Everything there seems to be completely domestic. I haven't looked at the range (I'm too lazy), but it's partially suitable for long-haul flights within the country. International flights should be closed, not opened. There's nothing for ordinary people to do there. They've become completely arrogant. They'll also be subject to airspace closures, borders, and bombing raids. Then you'll have to drag those idiots out of there. This country is big—you can't travel around it all in a lifetime. And you can get a tan at a tanning salon—it's much cheaper. And most importantly, there won't be any problems with foreign languages...
    1. +3
      April 19 2026 13: 16
      It was invented a long time ago; it's called the IL-86. It was a pretty good plane for its time.
      It can be produced, but either the tickets will be so expensive that no one will fly, or the state will need to subsidize these tickets, but it is short on money.
      This aircraft has more crew members, higher fuel consumption, and shorter overhaul intervals than modern aircraft.
  38. 0
    April 19 2026 12: 55
    The An-24 that crashed near Tynda in July 2025 was almost fifty years old. Forty-eight people died. The cause of the disaster is unknown.


    They are known. The IAC published its final report at the beginning of the year.

    due to a discrepancy between the altitude reading level based on the QNH pressure actually set on the barometric altimeters and the crew's reading level of the assigned flight altitudes (based on the QFE pressure), which resulted in the flight being carried out at an altitude approximately 600 m lower than the assigned altitude, and the aircraft colliding with tree crowns and the earth's surface.


    Incidentally, this was one of the very first versions in the professional community. It arose simply from the difference between the expected and actual altitude, which was the difference between QNH and QFE.
  39. 0
    April 19 2026 13: 16
    It's a complete disgrace. We've become quite adept at closing factories and building luxury housing projects in their place, and we've become even better at talking about the need to revive the domestic aircraft industry. Now the most important thing remains: learning to implement everything that's been announced but still hasn't been done. As the saying goes, destroying is not building, and talking is not carrying sacks. We must always remember this. We need to bring back the Gosplan system. This whole dead-end model of a market economy and a free market has clearly failed to take hold and isn't working effectively. This is already very clearly visible, and without serious adjustments, it will lead to the final collapse of our still-raw-materials-based economy.
  40. -5
    April 19 2026 13: 24
    An article from the series – “Boss, everything is lost!!!)))”
    Let's start with the fact that the problem of imported land became acute for the Russian Federation in 22.
    Including civil aviation. Previously, Russian airliners, as the article correctly notes, also contained imported components. And that's normal. Both Boeings and Airbuses contain a fair amount of these (third-party components).
    But since 22, the Russian aviation industry has faced a truly titanic task.
    This is described in detail, for example, in the issue of “Military Acceptance” dedicated to the MS-21.
    The presenter interviews the chief designer and development engineers, and shows the process of creating a composite wing. In short, it was practically a separate industry to create a composite wing. First, conduct scientific research, then implement it, build a prototype, test it, and so on. And that's not all. Any new component must undergo both certification and certification testing. That is, the more import-substituting components, the longer it takes. And that's not all. For the Superjet, for example, a new engine (PD8) had to be developed, and at the Indian Air Show in December 2025, a completely import-substituting Superjet was unveiled. It was especially emphasized that it contains not a single imported component (there are no other airliners in the world that consist exclusively of components from the country of manufacture).
    This is a colossal undertaking. It takes decades elsewhere. And Russia did it not just quickly, but incredibly quickly. Incidentally, Russia is only one of five countries in the world capable of producing aircraft engines. As for the shifts "to the right," why are they only blaming Russia? Look at how the Americans commission their ships. A shift to the right is commonplace here. As they say, producing a new engine isn't a matter of lobbying. During its development, difficulties will always surface, requiring shifts to the right. Everything looks smooth only on paper.
    That's not all. In India, Modi has launched a program under the slogan of something like "making air travel affordable for every Indian." A ton of new airports are being built all over India, and the only thing left is to create our own fleet. Boeings are available. But spare parts for those same Boeings will have to be paid for. So, it would be much more attractive for India to produce its own spare parts. And that requires technology. The West only supplies products and never sells technology. So, at this air show, an agreement was signed between Russia and India under which the Superjet will be manufactured in India. Under this agreement, Russia will also transfer the technological developments for the aircraft. In other words, all Superjet production will be localized in India. Naturally, Russia will receive royalties for this. The form in which these royalties will be paid was not specified.
    It's entirely possible that, for example, one of the 10 Superjets produced in India will be shipped to Russia as payment for providing the manufacturing process. Then the Russian fleet will grow faster. It's odd that the author didn't mention this fact. It seems it doesn't fit the black palette.
    So, the IL-114 passed certification and all testing in December 2025 and is entering production. The MC-21 and Superjet Il-214 have been certified and are undergoing certification testing. Recently, it was reported that the MC-21 and Superjet have passed certification testing for the effect of icing on aircraft performance. The tests were conducted in Arkhangelsk. The airliners have passed the tests. ALL testing of the Superjet and MC-21 is planned for the first half of 26.
    It's understandable that we want it faster. But here, on the contrary, I want to praise our aircraft industry, which has solved the problem of creating OUR OWN DOMESTIC airliners in a short time. All that remains is to establish their mass production. And in conclusion, I would like to speak harshly of those who put the country and its aircraft industry in such a difficult situation. All those Gaidars, Chubais, and other riffraff who once said, "Why should we produce anything? It's easier to sell oil and buy everything we need." I recall a portrait of Comrade Stalin I once saw on a building in Arkhangelsk, with the caption, "Now, comrade, do you understand who the enemies of the people are?"
    1. +1
      April 19 2026 13: 48
      If you want to build a COMPETITIVE, modern aircraft, it should have the very best from the leaders in its sector. If Japan makes composites, use them. If the avionics (the best) are French, from Thales or Sajem, use them. Import substitution is a term for fools. Justify why we don't have anything. Or we do, but it's CRAP. There will be no import-substituting aircraft, simply because no one needs them. Because they're inherently crap, not up to par with the best in their class. There are no prospects for export sales. Which means they're a priori economically unviable. Operating at a loss is only a thing on TV. That doesn't happen in real life!
      1. -2
        April 19 2026 14: 50
        I disagree with you. The global situation has shown that the safest option is to manufacture all components for your own airliners. Sanctions can be imposed (as in the case of Russia), or supply routes can be cut off due to military action. And that's it – airliner production ceases. That's the first thing. Secondly, the situation with Boeing components is like buying an inkjet printer. The product is cheap, but the components (cartridges) for it are sometimes comparable in price to the printer itself. I'm exaggerating, of course, but Aeroflot has repeatedly pointed out the high prices for Boeing components. Thirdly, you underestimate the Russian market. And it, with its vast distances, has a colossal need for airliners. It needs to be saturated and saturated. Fourthly, why do you assume that Russian components are inferior to imported ones in terms of performance?
        "And so, according to the Russian Government's commentary at the Innoprom-2025 exhibition, the latest domestic PD-8 aircraft engines, designed for installation on import-substituted versions of the SJ-100 passenger airliners, as well as on the modernized Be-200 amphibious aircraft, provide approximately 2-5% lower specific fuel consumption in cruising mode compared to engines with similar thrust."
        "There will be no import-substituting aircraft, simply because no one needs them." They are needed, primarily by Russia. And I already mentioned in the post above that India signed an agreement with Russia to localize Superjets production in India. So, it's not just Russia that needs them, but India as well.
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      1. 0
        13 May 2026 12: 53
        This can be said about any product. For example, the S-500 air defense system is a development of the S-75, which was created back in the Soviet era. However, for some reason, their disparate performance characteristics are overlooked. Similarly, one could argue that the American Minuteman is essentially a German product, since it traces its origins to the V-2 and the work of Wernher von Braun.
        Regarding the MS-21 and Chinese avionics, I refer you to the "Military Acceptance" episode about the MS-21 itself, which covers the topic. And there, not armchair experts, but the general designers and hard workers who install this avionics will tell you that it is Russian-designed and manufactured, using components created at the Milandr plant in Zelenograd.
        Yes, work on the Il-114 began back in the Soviet era. But when were the Airbuses and Boeings still in service today developed? Isn't anything outdated here? Should I remind you that the US Air Force still uses the B-52 bomber, developed back in the 1950s?
        Any modern airliner is a rethinking of an old concept based on a new electronic component base, new avionics, new materials (remember here the composite wing of the MS-21), a new cabin layout and its finishing with modern materials and new, more efficient engines.
        Well, the glider is the same in shape.
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          1. 0
            14 May 2026 10: 05
            Well, not all of the S-500's performance characteristics are classified. And there's no doubt that it surpasses the S-75 in technical specifications, at least in terms of target detection and engagement range (this data is publicly available). I personally served on a project that included the S-300F, so I know its technical specifications very well. Even it was head and shoulders above the S-75.
            Regarding Milandr. When I served in the General Staff of the Navy, in the last years of my service, and it was still stationed at Bolshoy Kozlovsky, I visited the Zelenograd plant several times for official business. And more than ten years ago, they were already producing electronic components for space, defense, and consumer goods there. True, they used imported photolithographs. Now, according to Sobyanin, a domestic photolithograph was created in 2024.
            How many Boeings and Airbuses were built after 92? Should I remind you what the question was? You said the Il-114 was ancient junk, developed in the USSR in the late 80s. I countered by saying that the avionics, engine, cabin layout, and even paintwork were all different. Only the airframe was old, and that's a fairly conservative component. To which I cited the B-2 as an example, which is still in service with the US Air Force. So, if you don't like the B-2, go ahead. The Boeing 737-300 has been in production since 1984, and for some reason you don't call it junk, even though its history is older than that of the Il-114.
            I first heard about stealth technology as a cadet at the Naval Academy several decades ago, back when you were, I imagine, still a child. And when I served in the Northern Fleet, I can testify that the Fort had a keen eye for stealth technology.
  41. 0
    April 19 2026 13: 42
    Domestic composites = recycling fees!!! The country can't make a decent, competitive car. A car, Karl!!!! A Class B. And you, dear sirs, are talking about an AIRPLANE!!! An airplane, damn it. Which is, like...heavier than air, by the way. Calm down, take a breath, and just draw the conclusion - there are no and never will be domestic airplanes. There are many reasons. It would take three pages to write!!!
    1. 0
      April 20 2026 23: 40
      Can you imagine, we can make an airplane! And they are already flying in some numbers.
  42. +1
    April 19 2026 14: 11
    The only Tu-214 is flown by industry curator, Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov.

    The saboteur and wrecker who was the first to escape from Moscow during the "Prigozhin March" received a birthday present. He was awarded the title Hero of Russia. For what exploits? fool Probably for the collapse of the USSR aviation industry.
  43. +3
    April 19 2026 14: 46
    Those who promised more than 1000 aircraft by 2030, led by D. Manturov, should be sent to Chukotka to count reindeer! hi negative And Comrade I. Stalin would have put him up against the wall "for lies and incompetence"! request fool "I'm sorry for the state!"
    1. +3
      April 19 2026 14: 48
      Quote: senima56
      And Comrade Stalin would have put him up against the wall "for lies and incompetence"!

      This is why the corresponding characters hate Stalin. hi
  44. +4
    April 19 2026 15: 03
    And not a single bitch was put up against the wall, everyone was promoted... Not in aircraft manufacturing, not in any other buildings, not in medicine, not in education... How everyone loved it all, all this impunity, all this nepotism, this Eternal, dragging all these degenerates along with him and placing them, every time after they shit themselves, in an even warmer and more prosperous place, where they have not yet managed to screw everything up... It is not for nothing that Serebryakov in an interview with Dud*, when asked "Why do you dislike the Russian government?" answered: "They lie and steal." Worthy of contempt, right, gentlemen patriotic cretins?

    * foreign agent, "enemy" of the group of "thieves in law in power" under contract to the City of London.
  45. +1
    April 19 2026 15: 10
    So, the aviation industry can be said to be an indicator of the state of Russia's entire industry. It's also an indicator of the state of the management apparatus, which is essentially a gathering of imitators of their (brain) presence. They can talk big (so can a parrot), and they clearly understand their own mercantile interests. However, they lack both the competence and talent to organize such a complex process as mass aircraft production in the country. What did Stalin say? "Personnel decide everything."
  46. -1
    April 19 2026 16: 42
    [But we need planes. That is, the quantities that were declared and approved by the Russian government, and not these pitiful crumbs.]
    Isn't buying from China an option? We buy intercity buses, and it's fine...
  47. 0
    April 19 2026 18: 08
    "That's true, but Western products were purchased. Boeings and Airbuses were purchased, while the management of the airlines, first and foremost, couldn't care less about the development and construction of domestic aircraft. It's no secret what kickbacks the Americans and Europeans made to replace the Yak, Tupolev, and Ilyushin aircraft with Boeings and Airbuses. More than enough has been written about this, and it was the executives of the largest airlines who committed their own dirty deed by initiating a total phaseout of domestically produced aircraft. And the government followed suit: what's there to build? We'll buy everything."

    Is this a complaint to the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General's Office? Or a personal opinion accidentally expressed publicly?
    Factories, pasta factories and private palaces are being converted into state property.
    And the industry's destroyers continue to wear white?
    Well, I don't believe it, I'm sorry.
  48. 0
    April 19 2026 18: 14
    Why shouldn't the government lie if the anti-Soviet people since Perestroika believe it in everything, repeat its words, phrases, cliches, myths, and falsehoods, rush to adore and praise those whom the government points to, and rush to fiercely hate those whom the government sets on.
    1. 0
      April 22 2026 18: 10
      Quote: tatra
      Why shouldn't the authorities lie?

      Why shouldn't the authorities lie, if the anti-Soviet people since Perestroika believe them in everything, repeat their words, phrases, cliches, myths, and fakes, rush to adore and praise those whom the authorities point to, and rush to fiercely hate those whom the authorities incite.
      Yes
  49. +1
    April 19 2026 18: 17
    DAM initiated the removal of duties on the purchase of Boeings; he is the agent.
  50. +1
    April 19 2026 19: 01
    It's no secret what kickbacks the Americans and Europeans made to replace the Yak, Tu, and Il with Boeing and Airbus.
    It's a secret to me. Airlines themselves happily switched to imports: there are fewer problems with them—they only need two pilots, spare parts are readily available, and repairs are easier (some of the repairs that our companies required to be done at aircraft factories were allowed to be done in-house).
    1. exo
      -2
      April 19 2026 20: 27
      We also need to add excellent online documentation and other technical support programs, parts delivery within 24 hours, and excellent 24/7 support from the manufacturer. It's too easy to blame everything on kickbacks. We just need to be able to compare. Even now, there's a huge gap between an Airbus, which is ten years older, and the relatively new RRJ.
  51. +1
    April 19 2026 19: 07
    Yes, in terms of strength and safety, the new wing made of new materials passed all the tests, but the price was the weight: 5,75 tons more than the American one.
    Hmm... I wonder how much a metal wing would weigh? It's cheaper and easier to repair.
  52. exo
    0
    April 19 2026 20: 19
    We can't import-substitute simple components like the Superjet. I won't go into details. We make them of very low quality. It's hard to imagine what will happen in a completely domestically produced aircraft. Incidentally, the expert I quoted is absolutely right. We can build it according to the principle: if there's no other option, then so be it. But these products won't be able to compete with anyone. And the Tu-204, with a three-person crew, is a complete anachronism.
    1. 0
      April 19 2026 22: 00
      Sometimes, to jump further, you need to take a slight step back, get a running start. So let's have the third crew member, the flight engineer, for now. Because with him, it's all about economic efficiency again, not about reviving our country and gaining sovereignty. We'll fly three at first, then two at a time, and then completely unmanned.
  53. +1
    April 19 2026 20: 32
    Perhaps kleptocracies are simply incapable of creating anything due to their unwavering focus on theft?
  54. 0
    April 19 2026 20: 42
    They removed the designers from the top positions; they're idiots who don't understand economics! They hired analysts as the top economists, but things aren't going well; they're all crooks who aren't responsible for their "marketing." Hurray!
  55. +2
    April 19 2026 21: 52
    The names of those who decided to buy overseas, those who swooned over Western products, those who made decisions on all fronts regarding the abandonment of domestic products, the work of vocational schools, technical schools, and institutes training workers, foremen, and engineers for industry, are not mentioned. They have names, they exist, and their children are already part of the next generation of decision-makers.
  56. 0
    April 19 2026 22: 01
    It would be interesting to compare the Tu-204/214 with the import-substituting MS-21. I think their performance has become similar.
  57. ptt
    0
    April 19 2026 22: 25
    Things simply couldn't be any other way in our country at this time and under the current leadership. The course of the last 25 years will tell us so. We need young, fresh blood to breathe new life into the country, so that we can regain hope that everything will be fine and our children and grandchildren will live in a normal state. There's no harm in dreaming.
  58. +1
    April 19 2026 22: 34
    Yaroslavna's Lament. Another one. Building a plane is not like opening a kebab shop. But!!! In 2026, we expect:
    Tu-214-4
    IL-114 - 3
    MS 21 - 8
    Superjet-8
    IL-76 - 7
    A total of 30 flights per year.
    We expect 60 in 2027.
    Here we go!!!
    But the author is right about the window dressing at the Ministry of Industry and Trade. And it's not even about our production capacity. Airlines don't need that much by 2030. We have a ton of Boeings and Airbuses on our wing—by 2030, 100 of them will be decommissioned, and the rest will still be flying.
  59. -1
    April 20 2026 00: 59
    I think we need to buy planes in Brazil and China.
    1. 0
      April 20 2026 23: 35
      Brazil assembles its own products from American and British components, just like China, which can't even get engines for its own planes.
  60. 0
    April 20 2026 01: 17
    To the country with fourteen million square kilometers of territory


    Ummm... I'm a bit embarrassed to ask, but I think I'll have to. And what did you, author, do with that other—more than 3 million square kilometers? Where or when did you manage to lose it so quickly?.. *)))
  61. +1
    April 20 2026 01: 24
    I read a third of the article and realized who the author was!
  62. +1
    April 20 2026 03: 00
    Yeah, right. The king has made a mess. Who's going to clean it all up, and how?
  63. 0
    April 20 2026 05: 38
    Where did China go and where did we row in galleys, people, wake up, we are being led like sheep to the cliff.
  64. -2
    April 20 2026 07: 02
    It's sad, the MS21 is a good airplane, but it has one fundamental flaw: the engine's service life is 4000 summer hours, which is 10 times less than its competitors.
  65. 0
    April 20 2026 08: 20
    It's not about the planes, but about internal management and lobbying. Someone is seriously slowing down the industry; their insiders have bought someone else's hand. And there's nothing to be said about it: finished planes are being moved to another company. They change contractors and design bureaus, and everything goes toward the organization, while they work around the clock.
  66. 0
    April 20 2026 09: 23
    It seems to me that the aviators need to be gathered into a barracks (along with the officials who coordinate) and put to work with great energy.
  67. RMT
    0
    April 20 2026 13: 23
    "The An-24 that crashed near Tynda in July 2025. The cause of the disaster is unknown."
    The results of the investigation have been published:
    - the actual lack of readiness of the crew to carry out flights to airfields that had switched to QNH pressure, which led to errors in the procedure for using the pressure values ​​(QNH/QFE) of the Tynda airfield;
    transmission by the dispatcher, without a request from the crew, of the QNH pressure value, expressed in millimeters of mercury;
    - lack of control by the crew over the correspondence between the barometric pressure values ​​used and the values ​​of the specified altitudes;
    - the lack of the ability for instrumental control of the aircraft flight altitude by the air traffic controller due to the inoperability of the secondary radar equipment at the Tynda airfield;
    - switching off the sound warning alarm of the SRPPZ by the crew.
  68. 0
    April 20 2026 23: 32
    Actually, the Tynda disaster is completely understandable, and the aircraft's age isn't the cause. The author has lumped everything together and mucked it up, but the work continues, and the SVO shouldn't be discounted, just like the more than 15000 sanctions, which the USSR never saw, and the wars.
  69. 0
    April 21 2026 17: 41
    And on top of all that good stuff, there's also a water cooling system. This won't be the case even in 2028.
  70. 0
    April 22 2026 01: 28
    As I understand it, this is precisely why Manturov was made a Hero of Russia?
  71. 0
    April 22 2026 09: 16
    Many, including the author, sing the song about the Tu-214 being outdated. Yes, there is one issue – the crew is three instead of two. However, given the range of up to 6000 km, this isn't so bad. The payload! Otherwise, it's unclear how it's outdated. New avionics systems have been implemented, the fuel efficiency is like that of a Boeing 737, and the price isn't exorbitant. The Kazan plant will never be able to produce 20 aircraft per year – that's just a tall tale from the Ministry of Industry and Trade, but they don't need that many. The Kazan people themselves are talking about seven aircraft per year – that's exactly what's needed.
  72. 0
    April 28 2026 12: 33
    The crux of the matter, IMHO, is that the bureaucrats are hoping for a deal to be struck, for the West to lift sanctions, and for them to be able to throw all their import substitution plans in the toilet and start bringing Boeings and Airbuses back into the country.
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