Stalin is not on them. Russian national hockey team crashed out of the World Cup

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Stalin is not on them. Russian national hockey team crashed out of the World Cup


In the first match of the playoffs, Zinetuly Bilyaletdinov's wards surrendered to the US national team. Our team did not show the games, and goalkeeper Ilya Bryzgalov, who had become famous on the eve of a scandalous interview about Stalin, missed four goals and was replaced in the second period. Semen Varlamov, who entered the field, limited himself to the same number of goals.

The Russian national team on Thursday lost to the Americans with an 3 score: 8 and left the world hockey championship.

Nobody expected such a defeat. The sediment that remained after the game is in many ways more important than the match itself, which the Russians had as bad as possible.

Stalin context

In the playoffs, the team came from second place, showing in the qualifying tournament of the championship a good, albeit uneven game.
The unexpected defeat of the last-last-rank line in the table of the French team and the poorly conducted game with the Finns were compensated by strong victories over the Americans and the Slovaks.

In general, the second in the tournament match with the young US team, the Russian team came up in good spirits. Hockey players actively gave out interviews, and forward Alexander Ovechkin, who plays for the Washington Capitals, joined the team the day before.

Among the replicas of how the national team is going to beat the Americans, an interview with goalkeeper of the Russian national team Ilya Bryzgalov, who said that he positively assesses the reign of Joseph Stalin, looked unexpectedly.

“I see the logic in his actions,” said the goalkeeper in an interview with the journalist Championat.com. - Not without kinking, of course. But he came to power in a country that only survived the revolution. How many there were spies, enemies, traitors.

Many people after the Civil War remained in the hands weapon. The country was devastated, it was necessary to somehow survive. It was necessary to build a country, and in order to do this, we must hold it in iron hands. Then the war began. How many people returned after her graduation from the front, again with weapons. Around the devastation, it is necessary to restore the country, to maintain defense. How many criminal elements were there. ”
“He knew what he was doing. They say about him: a bloody tyrant, but at that time it was impossible to do otherwise. Yes, there were innocent people among the victims of repression ... But this happens.

Just recently, in the US, a man who served 45 for years has been released from prison. It turned out that he was innocent. Imagine, a person served his whole life for what he did not commit, ”Bryzgalov explained his thought that he would like to talk with the leader.

The interview was removed from the site, but left in search cache.

Time to miss the pucks

Ilya Bryzgalov left for the match in the starting lineup and missed the first puck in the 12 minute of the game. After Craig Smith beat Eugene Biryukov, striker Paul Stastny, being on the patch, easily beat the goalkeeper of the Russian team.

After 50 seconds, TJ Oshi threw from an acute angle, and in this episode Bryzgalov found it difficult to blame the defenders (they held the whole game out of hand, but so far no one could guess how everything turned out).

The Russian team played in three minutes: Alexander Svitov, after Sergei Soin's pass, struck John Gibson, and ours went to the break with good chances. The statistics of the first period were on the side of the wards of Bilyaletdinov: the Russians threw ten shots on the opponent's goal, the Americans limited themselves to eight.

The Russian national team began the second period in the majority, which was never realized. Alexander Ovechkin looked great, did not hesitate to throw at the goal, our main scorer Ilya Kovalchuk looked good, but the Americans spent a better part of the game on oncoming courses.

On the 26 minute, with Ryan Carter's submission, Nate Thompson put the puck into Bryzgalov’s goal net, and Alex Galchenyuk excelled on 38: in both cases, the defenders were mistaken, first skipping the US counterattack and then leaving the goalkeeper alone.

Between these goals, our team managed to carry out several attacks: the same Ovechkin and Yevgeny Kuznetsov dangerously beat the goal, but the defense and the goalkeeper of the Americans played out each episode very calmly and harmoniously.

Bilyaletdinov replaced Bryzgalov with Semyon Varlamov, and with the 4: 1 score in favor of the US team, the national teams left to rest.

Hope to the Russian team gave at the beginning of the third period, Ovechkin, who passed from an acute angle so that the puck, quite unexpectedly for everyone, was in the net of the Gibson goal.

After this goal, our team could cheer up, the opportunity to recoup remained and the prospects opened up the most optimistic, but in the 43 minute Ryan Carter scored, although the Americans were in the minority and the puck was more likely to hold.

It seems that at that very moment the Russians finally got angry and carried out several sharp attacks. One of them ended with a goal (Alexander Perezhogin scored), the second could turn the tide of the game, but from the most advantageous position did not get on goal Soin.

The final match turned out to be depressing: the Russians did not go forward, they raspasovyvalis, and the Americans quietly kept the puck and brought the game to a logical final. The score could be 3: 9, but Varlamov, three minutes before the end of the third period, saved the team from absolutely indecent defeat.

However, the numbers on the post-match scoreboard could hardly have pleased any of the Russian team fans. The most common comments of the spectators leaving the stands were “this is a nightmare” and “this is horror”, the other statements of the VIEW newspaper cannot be quoted because of the legislative ban on obscene language.

Ilya Kovalchuk, quoted by Championat.com, also could not resist harsh expressions. "We are overdue ... and", "said the striker.
The head coach of the US team, in turn, noted that he was proud of his hockey players. Joe Sacco admitted that "this is a great victory for his team against such a strong contender."

“We started the match well, our goalkeeper confidently acted at the start, made great saves. On the active actions of the Russians, we were able to respond with two goals. And to lead against such a rival in the score is very important. I am proud of my hockey game. We used our chances. For most of the match, we defended well against powerful Russian strikers. We acted diligently, in a disciplined way, and now we are glad that we are going to Sweden - for the sake of it we flew here. We will fight for medals, ”he concluded.

And some culture

Stalin, about whom Ilya Bryzgalov mentioned so out of place, was not forgotten after the match.

“It comes to the mind of a supporter of the 'iron order', where he would now be if his beloved watched his game today historical a character, ”journalist Elena Zelinskaya sadly specified in her blog.

In a wider context, the defeat of the national team included the Minister of Culture Vladimir Medinsky, who regretted that "Tarasov and Tikhonov ... clearly not enough."

Not without the participation of the administration of Medinsky on the screens of Russian cinemas in April came the film “Legend - No. 17”, which tells how the great Soviet coach Anatoly Tarasov quite Stalinist (and clearly not without sympathy for the leader) leads to the victory of the rising star Name Valery Kharlamov.

The Russian national team in February to defend the honor of the flag at the Olympic Games in Sochi. Judging by the game, the team will have to change, if not all, very much.

Whether it comes to the Stalinist methods is perhaps the only question so far.
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  1. +25
    17 May 2013 06: 54
    YES!!!! SUCH HOCKEY WE DO NOT NEED !!!!
    1. Svobodny
      +40
      17 May 2013 07: 33
      SUCH HOCKEY WE DO NOT NEED

      That's always like that! Last year, the national team was needed, and hockey was needed, but today it is no longer. How quickly we change our minds ... This is just a sport, and the guys need to be respected, they tried, if we really love our hockey!
      1. +14
        17 May 2013 08: 02
        Quote: Svobodny
        if we really love our hockey!

        That's because we love and say - such hockey is not needed. No one is pouring mud on our guys, they just really worry about everything.
        1. +4
          17 May 2013 13: 39
          Here is a comment by the two-time Olympic champion Alexander Kozhevnikov, he commented on the defeat of the Russian team from the United States (3: 8) in the semifinals of the World Cup.
          “What happened? Goalkeepers let us down, in the sense that they did not help. The goalkeeper of the national team is needed in order to help out. What else? Our eternal illness is failures in defense. But the main problem is that the team did not show dedication. You saw, no one went under the puck, on the contrary, the legs were removed! Even in the minority! I don’t know what happened to the team! This is a problem only for players, not coaches.
          Everyone says: we love the national team, we are for the country. But in reality, what happens? But this is the face of our hockey! Thank God that this defeat happened now, and not in Sochi. At the Olympics, players with character are needed. The Olympic Games are a completely different psychology.
          This defeat is not a tragedy. Before the tournament, Bilyaletdinov said that he would check the players at the World Cup and select those who were ready for the Olympics. We now need to unite and help the coaches. Do not blame anyone. Bilyaletdinov will draw conclusions and pick up other players who will not remove their legs. ”
          http://www.sovsport.ru/news/text-item/609551
      2. +10
        17 May 2013 08: 39
        Yes, they did not try, if the team is trying, you can forgive any defeat, but if I see that the team either did not get enough sleep, or with a hangover what kind of game can be discussed.
        In general, the eyes of the guys did not "burn".
        In general, a sign that someone from the national team (hockey, football) begins to appear in commercials
        all "Write is gone"
        1. +13
          17 May 2013 09: 30
          Why we lost (According to the comic magazine "Krasnaya Burda"):

          25 good reasons why ours lost

          The coach did not call everyone.

          Yesterday there were stale kebabs ...

          Everyone “burned out” even before the doping control. And when they passed it, then there was no more strength left for anything ...

          In the framework of previously reached agreements.

          After yesterday's training, everything hurt.

          Did not guess with the opponent ...

          That was the accountant's setting.

          Most players have no experience winning an opponent ...

          On the eve of the night, we drove the entire route three times - three world records, and, well, calmed down ahead of time.

          We didn’t get enough sleep, because our rivals drank and screamed all night in the restaurant and didn’t let us sleep!

          Because professional hired referees worked against us!

          The first whistle judge “broke” the game!

          The team went out to fight, but the judge did not understand this ...

          Come out and win yourself if you are so smart! (strong, fast, well-aimed ...)

          In vain, we had dinner during the break. The shawarma in the lobby was not the same ...

          The sun is in our direction, the wind is in our direction, the judge whistled in our direction, the opponent ran in our direction!

          The difference in time, in the classroom, in the long run, greatly prevented ...

          There was no second element in the “run-and-go” tactics.

          After the third missed goal, they could not rebuild - and missed the fourth. Well, after the fifth, somehow snickered, the desire to prove something to someone disappeared ...

          It is very difficult to play with a team that is standing in its own penalty box and beats off. So we thought before the game. As it turned out, they were mistaken ...

          At night, ringing silence did not let our sleep in our hotel. And calling prostitutes.

          Mentally, we were all in the shower.

          If they evened the score, there would be extra time, they would be late for the plane. Moreover, this is an award. I would have to spend the night with medals at the airport ...

          And we do not pursue fame and success! The main thing for us is to maintain good relations in a team.

          It was an unprincipled world championship.
          1. Rustiger
            +6
            17 May 2013 13: 28
            Quote: Stiletto
            The sun is in our direction, the wind is in our direction, the judge whistled in our direction, the opponent ran in our direction!

            ... The slope of the ice was in our direction. Shayaba constantly slipping into the gate.

            They had a larger goalkeeper, and a smaller goal.

            Their goalkeeper had the "force field dome" on all the time, while our servants forgot to charge the battery.
      3. +7
        17 May 2013 08: 46
        Quote: Svobodny
        Last year the national team was needed, and hockey was needed, but today it’s gone
        It also amazes me how we quickly turn our backs on idols. We won the championship-ury last year !!! Our ours ... We lost the reptiles full.
        The level of hockey is so level that now no one can name the winner ... Anyone, anytime. In each team, half of the players play in the NHL or KHL ...
        But what our yesterday did indeed defies any logic .. fellow
        1. +18
          17 May 2013 09: 15
          Most of the match was not watched, and the rest are the glorichanters, as soon as they lost - everything, shoot the team and blah blah blah
          The guys understood all their mistakes, they will correct them ... not football players
          1. -2
            17 May 2013 13: 07
            This mistake is not forgiven! They fiddled there, NHLers, the match was bought and there could be no other way. I understand that they lost with a score of 2-3, 3-4, but 3-8 (!!), it’s not getting into any gates anymore, so Switzerland and not Russia should play. In general, you need to introduce a punishment, for losing - cut salaries by three quarters.
            1. 0
              17 May 2013 13: 13
              Well, what kind of salary are you talking about ??
              1. 0
                17 May 2013 13: 27
                And what can be the salary of hockey players, they are not playing for free, right?
                1. +3
                  17 May 2013 13: 39
                  world championship then what? who will let you deprive the KHL of players for losing at the World Cup? how will you deprive Ovechkin of Varlamov, Kovalchuk, Tyutin, Anisimo
                  wa, Datsyuk, Malkin? contact the NHL? KHL is a commercial project in which teams from eight countries play. There will be no system like in the USSR, in fact. what time we live
                  1. 0
                    17 May 2013 13: 47
                    So it turns out they are playing the World Cup for free, or what?
                    1. +5
                      17 May 2013 13: 58
                      YES, for free, drop their teams and ride. Because it is necessary for the motherland! And at the 2014 Olympics, wear and tear blood, even spit on contracts, will go. They are also offended by 3: 8.
                      1. -3
                        17 May 2013 14: 05
                        Ahh, now it’s clear why they lost. There are no more questions.
                      2. +6
                        17 May 2013 14: 11
                        look how Kovalchuk cried after the finals of 2008. it’s impossible to play. he’s a man. And in the camera, IT'S FOR YOU RUSSIA
                        yes you yourself saw
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0zDWa0N4c
                      3. -3
                        17 May 2013 14: 18
                        Did he cry now?
                      4. +2
                        17 May 2013 17: 33
                        Fortunately no one cried! But on the faces of everyone it was written - the fans were let down - the country, but I was not offended by them, and my mother, an avid fan of the national team from the 70s, too. I will repeat again - these are not football players! They are not collected by the whole country! They remember them only before the Olympic Games and the World Cup, but they didn’t hear or watch about the Eurotour, for example, to say nothing of the KHL and the local hockey team ...
                      5. -3
                        17 May 2013 21: 18
                        A sick conscience was probably shown on the faces for leaking the match.
                      6. -1
                        17 May 2013 14: 20
                        For me, the best hockey we showed last year. Where is that team, sorry for the expression - I xs.
                    2. +1
                      17 May 2013 14: 04
                      I won’t be surprised if Ovechkin flew on his own. There are generally prize money. The IIHF will distribute it among the federations for the participation of teams in the championship. For a certain stage, a victory .. but what kind of prize money are there if the team ended up in 8-16 places. First three places more less.
                      last year, 50-60 bucks each were ours. well, and probably from the president
                      1. +1
                        17 May 2013 14: 12
                        Well, to be honest, I’ve never been interested in their salaries; I watch hockey twice a year, the World Cup and the Youth World Cup. And only because of the Russian team, I as a fan only need a victory, I will turn around, I would understand if our team would lose with a minimum score, it would be insulting, but still. But so shameful, I will never understand and never forgive. I think the team is to blame.
                      2. 0
                        17 May 2013 15: 10
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        I think the team is to blame.

                        You think so in vain.
                        The world is multicolored and black and white doesn’t roll. (There are no tenders here) Please see my post, which is located a little lower.
                      3. +1
                        17 May 2013 17: 11
                        If I correctly understood the meaning of your comment, can you expect anything from our teams every year? And do you need to accept all their defeats as a routine? If so, then I agree with you, plus your comment. However, why it is so offensive to me, it is because I watched the matches of the Soviet national team and compared it with the current game, and it became so insulting. Probably I’ll stop watching all these championships, only you spoil your nerves, and someone makes money on it. Thanks for the enlightenment.
                      4. 0
                        18 May 2013 17: 56
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        Probably I’ll stop watching all these championships, just spoil your nerves

                        You need to watch, but without fanaticism, akin to ballet. wink
                        Sometimes very beautiful moments slip through.
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        and someone makes money on it

                        It has always been that way. Title, official "partners" and sponsors.
                        Quote: Alexander Petrovich
                        However, why am I so offended

                        But because if the victory is with a minimum advantage of bloody foam from the back and broken teeth, it is perceived as a feat.
                        And defeat, and even with such a difference, "about ..... b" and that does not fit as a definition.
                        In the video, I remind you how everything is done to achieve the desired results.
                    3. Hon
                      0
                      21 May 2013 14: 15
                      Ovechkin signed a contract in excess of $ 100 million, the most expensive contract in the history of hockey. What salary did he want to cut?
            2. +1
              17 May 2013 13: 56
              Snickering, bought a match ... Know how to take the defeat of the team with dignity. Canadian fans behave more worthy than you.
              PS I'm sorry if it turned out to be rude
              1. 0
                17 May 2013 14: 04
                And where does the dignity, I do not understand? I express my opinion, if you do not agree with him, say so, and do not read the moral about "dignity", which our team does not have - at least this year. PS I'm sorry if it turned out to be rude - yes scary)
        2. yak69
          +2
          17 May 2013 17: 38
          Quote: domokl
          It amazes us how we quickly turn our back on idols. We won the championship in the past year! Our very ones ... We lost the reptiles full.

          Nobody turns away from our hockey players! But SO can’t play!
          In my amateurish opinion, there are two main reasons for the frequent defeats of our hockey team:
          1. The guys are not played - they are all scattered around the world and in clubs and just "chop cabbage".
          2. Lack of ideology (national idea). If in the USSR there was a powerful motive and before each serious tournament a strong ideological "pumping" was carried out, then the guys understood WHAT responsibility they had on themselves - to protect the sports honor of the Motherland. And now there is only one motive - more "chop cabbage"!
          At one time, I admired V. Tretyak, played in the yard team on goal, tried to be like my idol. Not so long ago I heard his interview, how he pours slop on everything Soviet - that’s not right for him, that’s not for him! I was disappointed in a man ..... And it is so not nice to be disappointed in people whom I considered an example for myself.

          I repeat, this is my subjective opinion.
          1. +1
            17 May 2013 17: 53
            the reasons for the frequent defeats of our hockey team
            any opinion needs to be heard, but tell me, what frequent defeats are you talking about? Have you looked at the statistics of recent years? Are you aware that we are leaders in the IIHF world ranking? at least to the champion.
            The guys are not played - everyone is scattered around the world and clubs and just "chop cabbage"
            Lack of ideology (national idea)
            and who is not scattered? the other teams have about the same time for teamwork (we even have an advantage. if you see who plays with whom (Perezhogin-Popov, Kokarev, Soin), Bill took three-pair from clubs. and about ideology who do they have? those western teams? write on the website every day. that the west has nothing of value, some geyparads. what’s going on? does the USA have ideology? if they won? yes, is there an ideology of the dollar that you don't say let us win
            1. +1
              17 May 2013 21: 27
              Quote: Gleb
              does the USA have ideology? if they win?

              Of course have! What an ideology. The most powerful and. Ideology - democracy, human rights, the fact that the states are the beacon of democracy and the whole world. Is his protector. In general, the states have not begun to play badly lately, but ours? There are none of ours, everyone strives to grab the laurels (and grandmothers) for themselves and only then they think about the Motherland. With such an account, let them leave for the NHL forever, and if Nikolai Nikolaevich once said in 72m that “We don’t need this kind of hockey”, then be sure that this phrase would not be appropriate for the current team, I personally have no words.
      4. +5
        17 May 2013 09: 21
        Quote: Svobodny
        This is just a sport, and the guys must be respected

        We have not met your expectations? It's your problems.
        After such statements, there is no point in waiting for a "miracle" and it will not happen.
        The sport of high achievements has long been AGREEMENT and is a bargaining chip for more politics and naturally Bookmakers.
        The first "call" was performed by Beckham (penalty and above the gate) I finally "saw the light" during the World Cup in Japan and Korea.
        I will not write about Ours, but how South Korea was "dragged" through Italy and Spain, it was still that number (those who do not remember did not count the goals and "whistle"). Then the fiery procession of the Russian national football team led by the “Flying Golandtsy” and I can’t even imagine how the Golandans would “get out” if it were not rain during the match.
        Then there was a DEATH at the Olympics from Canada and yesterday everyone who watched saw another "calf-sheep" look in the eyes of the players.
        I do not want to pour dirt on the players and even more so on the Coaching Staff, these are MEGAMASTARA SUPERPROFESSIONALS, but they are all hostages of the "greater game".
        Now about the Olympics in Sochi.
        There is hope for Hockey gold but no doubt a full garden.
        There is time before the New Year and will tell you what sports results to expect. Maybe there will be MEGASLIV for all athletes as a payback for the possibility of holding the Olympics. Referees and sports referees will definitely not "whistle" in our direction. But there certainly won't be the overwhelming rain of medals. In the team standings we will be from 3rd to 6th place, if there is no "beating" which is done at each Olympiad. hi
      5. +3
        17 May 2013 09: 47
        Quote: Svobodny
        This is only a sport, and the guys need to be respected, they tried, if we really love our hockey!

        For some it is sport, for some it is work, for some it is business ... A team is a well-coordinated team, but now everyone is doing their best "abroad", in their clubs.
        1. +1
          17 May 2013 11: 16
          For some, sports, for some work, for some business ...
          Roma is not in the eyebrow but in the eye. Especially about business. I suggest, this grief to the athletes, to cut off whoever’s hand, who’s foot, maybe then they will play like our PARAOLYMPIANS. Which honor and respect. It's time to stop such a game, and to drive such (thieves) athletes. How many talents do we play in our yards? But this hockey is not about them, but in hockey and football, they are played, thieves by thieves, but for crazy money. It was necessary for the coach to bring the team to the film, The Legend of 17. Or at least tell us about the past exploits of the great Hockey players. I will not be surprised if soon these athletes running after the puck do not answer the question of who Kharlamov is. Yesterday's game, this is the shame of our hockey.
      6. Natalia
        +4
        17 May 2013 09: 57
        Hello everyone!)
        You can complain about anything, but not hockey. Our hockey is respected all over the world, it is the best in the whole world, just today we are out of luck ... nobody is safe from this.
        We know that the German national football team is an excellent team, however, they have reached the finals several times in a row and cannot take the first place, but nevertheless they are respected at home, respected for any result because they have excellent football.

        Therefore, I believe that our guys, our hockey team deserves respect, as it is a strong-willed team, and the fact that they always play to win is no doubt, they are the best. It’s just that we’re out of luck today, but tomorrow we’ll be lucky, because we have a strong team.
        1. Natalia
          +1
          17 May 2013 11: 00
          Yes, not well, just a psychological one, we were not quite ready, it happens this hockey today is forgivable for ours, it is very difficult to accuse our hockey players of non-professionalism. This is hockey and it happens here. And to turn away from them, to scold them: "they say you suckers ..." I would say they do not deserve this. They need to be supported, I think, because they, too, are aware of their full responsibility to the fans and it is also quite difficult for them to endure this alignment of events ..... nothing will be normal.

          I think that this defeat will be useful for us, since in Sochi we should be FIRST. And then after the last championship we somehow felt immortal, but such a cold shower will show us the problems that we will need to pay attention to and win.

          But I have already said and will say it again, our hockey is not football, therefore the Russian hockey team must be respected, because they deserve it, and accept them kindly and in sorrow and in joy.
          1. Natalia
            +1
            17 May 2013 11: 20
            Quote: GUR
            Are you sure that they tried? I somehow did not notice this, the impression is that the game was simply leaked. Or we all spoiled the French, ours

            Oh, you .... how the champions were so needed, but how unlucky once, they lost so now all the "suckers" .......
            1. +1
              17 May 2013 12: 37
              Quote: Natalia
              ... and how once bad luck ...

              Have you seen other games of the Russian national team? It is difficult to call it "at once", with all the desire. The trend, however. And it’s not so much worried about the fact of the loss, but the understanding that “nothing is left” before the Olympic Games, and this is what we have with the team ...
              1. +1
                17 May 2013 13: 34
                I agree with you. Once is chance, two is coincidence, three is regularity.
        2. +3
          17 May 2013 12: 26
          Dear transmission!
          On Saturday, almost crying
          Rustic all macho
          They were torn to the TV.
          Instead of eating, washing,
          Take half a liter and forget
          Friendly residents of the village
          Gathered at the screen.

          He spoke breaking his hands
          Brother Terentyev Vitka
          About the powerlessness of science
          Before the secret of Znarka.
          Someone argued: "Bill is quicker",
          "Belousov is our man",
          But before the national team game
          I had to bite my tongue.

          We turned on the screens.
          We look, there is no ice, no frame.
          Only Malakhov heals wounds
          Sorrel and bleached.
          The series is about the laundresses,
          Yakubovich hides the box,
          In "Wait for me" the presenter is crying
          On the shoulder of Shukshina.

          Dear Editor!
          Maybe it's better - about "Reactor"?
          About "Magnitka" and about "Tractor"?
          After all, it’s impossible! - year in a row
          They’re fooling us with stars
          Say, vile, dance.
          That "Minute of Glory" will stick,
          Then again, "Let them talk."

          What are we in a bit of skill:
          We took the plate.
          We ate a dog on it,
          Launched at random.
          Only instead of the shallow washer
          And ice barge haulers
          This plate tells us
          Naked women and men.

          We did not scandal -
          The leader was missing:
          There were few sobering up
          So there are no leaders.
          But on "News" and "Time"
          You have both power and time.
          Why not drop the burden
          Do not look for enemies?

          Our boys, hell
          Do not drive around the pond
          And they don’t know what in the world
          There is a game of ice hockey.
          That's about the explosions, about the fires
          We learn every hour,
          And how the Tatars play right now -
          This news is not for us.

          We are used to new looks -
          Ratings, neither give nor take
          But we are ready for anything!
          What is the problem - do not understand.
          Exchanged your land
          Hockey players in the ore?
          Stanley offended grandfather
          In the eighteenth year?

          Or maybe Ernst is sad
          Because in the dark forest
          Someone took and hung
          Offensive poster?
          About him, his work,
          Yes, a vulgar joke
          This flavored by subscribing:
          Like, I'm a hockey fan.

          Forty souls howl in shifts
          White-hot.
          That's how much they bother
          Us hockey affairs.
          We all rushed to the radio
          Even who was read,
          But "Mayak" seems to us blowing -
          The broadcasting style has changed.

          Chopped down our Czechs?
          How is the glorious city of Chekhov?
          "Youth" to expect success?
          Or can we not ask?
          “Loko” seems to tear and toss?
          "Knight" only tears, towards
          Eurotour goes eternal ...
          Pound it.

          Well, tomorrow the children will ask,
          Persons sticking out the window
          "Dads, is there anything in the world
          Besides dancing and movies? "
          We will open to our children
          Truth - they care
          "Amazing near,
          But it's forbidden! "

          There would be "Sport" - then it's easy.
          Would be a mountain for him
          But we can set up
          Only the first and second.
          Therefore we ask little
          There is happiness, but it’s more important for us
          To the first channels
          New Year brought back hockey.
      7. Gur
        +3
        17 May 2013 10: 02
        Are you sure that they tried? I somehow did not notice this, the impression is that the game was simply leaked. Or have all the French ruined us all, our high-paid stars have lost their confidence? Maybe, but with such a score !!!! This is not a fight. (As a balm, I look at the youthful World Cup in Canada, that's where the guys fought, to the last and the victory as a reward) Although we must pay tribute to this World Cup as everything is upside down, hockey has grown great for such former outsiders ... Maybe it shocked the main teams? And so you can only say with a phrase from the movie "Voroshilovsky shooter" - "Your dignity has grown in one place, they will tear off (in this case) this dignity for you"
      8. +1
        17 May 2013 10: 24
        Quote: Svobodny
        from so always! Last year, the national team was needed, and hockey was needed, but today it is no longer. How quickly we change our minds ... This is just a sport, and the guys need to be respected, they tried, if we really love our hockey!


        Yes, the fact of the matter is that people are at a loss. Could not shake hands like this in a year. If you lost in an equal fight with a difference of 1-2 goals this would still be clear.
      9. +4
        17 May 2013 10: 57
        Quote: Svobodny
        This is only a sport, and the guys need to be respected, they tried, if we really love our hockey!

        I watched the live broadcast yesterday at 14.00 p.m. They didn’t play, they were serving conscription. I once played hockey. Sorry, but they made mistakes that are not excusable even at regional level games, not to mention the level of the national team.
        When the score was 4: 1, they stopped playing at all, although there was a failure before. They have no pivot. They cannot break the game that started unsuccessfully, break down, give up before the game ends.
        1. -1
          17 May 2013 12: 54
          Good luck to you! You noticed that as soon as the game is shown by ORT and Gusev comments, write is gone! victory is not a bulette! It must be prohibited to show the team’s game on ORT! there is a sport channel Russia, or Russia1!
          And this is not the first time, either! game in a group example!
          1. shpuntik
            +1
            18 May 2013 01: 02
            SerAll Yesterday, 12:54 ↑
            Good luck to you! You noticed that as soon as the game is shown by ORT and Gusev comments, write is gone! victory is not a bulette!

            ORT - THAT WHAT'S WHAT ?! YOU WITH THE KEYS DO NOT HURRY PLEASE CAREFULLY. As for Gusev, I agree, as in some film: "I don't like this shaved goose!" Often sarcastic in our direction, as I hear. Already, as a bad sign, his comments.
      10. -2
        17 May 2013 12: 02
        Have you watched at least one match from this championship?
    2. +8
      17 May 2013 07: 37
      Quote: treskoed
      YES!!!! SUCH HOCKEY WE DO NOT NEED !!!!

      And the minuses for such koment were probably put by those who think that they need laughing
      1. Rustiger
        -1
        17 May 2013 08: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the minuses for such koment were probably put by those who think that they need

        "Minuses were set" by those who are "happy with the next record" of Russia and "proud of the success of the national team, who set another record" at the World Cup. Even two!
        The number of goals conceded per match (8) and the difference in goals conceded (5).
        In my memory, before that there were only two such devastating accounts. 2: 5 (2001) from the Canadians and 0: 4 from the Finns (2004).
        1. +2
          17 May 2013 08: 29
          Quote: Rustiger
          In my memory, before that there were only two such devastating accounts. 2: 5 (2001) from the Canadians and 0: 4 from the Finns (2004).

          Olympics 2010 Russia-Canada 3: 7.
          1. +6
            17 May 2013 08: 48
            Quote: krokodil25

            Olympics 2010 Russia-Canada 3: 7.

            And again, as in 2010, the match was broadcast by Ernst Channel 1 belay
            We conclude: Matches of the Olympics in Sochi Channel 1 and not close to close, otherwise it’s some kind of tradition am
            1. +3
              17 May 2013 09: 03
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              And again, as in 2010, the match was broadcast by Ernst Channel 1

              In before the race still this Gusev!
          2. Rustiger
            +2
            17 May 2013 08: 51
            Thanks, corrected. But still there is a record - the difference in the washers!
            "Thanks to Comrade Brezhnev for our happy childhood." Then we guys jumped with joy from the scores 10: 1 with Germany and 15 (?): 2 with Italy. ... ...
        2. poizor
          0
          17 May 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Rustiger
          another record "at the World Cup. Even two!
          The number of goals conceded per match (8) and the difference in goals conceded (5).
          In my memory, before that there were only two such devastating accounts. 2: 5 (2001) from the Canadians and 0: 4 from the Finns (2004).

          Duc it, we must congratulate on the "record", enter into the Guinness book and take a common photo with Arshavin and Kerzhakov!
          feel
          1. Rustiger
            0
            17 May 2013 13: 30
            Quote: poizor
            take a common photo with Arshavin and Kerzhakov!

            Moreover, standing the whole campaign on Mut (d) ko. . .
        3. politruk419
          +1
          18 May 2013 05: 35
          Hi Vadim! I'm glad to see you.
          I think it is necessary to draw conclusions from this disaster for the coaching staff. The psychological preparation turned out to be dead and rotten. They started badly and could not mobilize and turn the tide of the game (although they were capable of several times and it seemed that they were just about .... (((((It’s about the same scenario as in Vancouver. There is no psychology of victorious soldiers yet. There’s no ability to turn the tide the enemy and impose on him his will and his script of the game.
          In short, there is no end to work. But you need to believe in them. And, by the way, there are no complaints against Ovechkin. He fought.
    3. Rustiger
      +4
      17 May 2013 08: 27
      Quote: treskoed
      YES!!!! SUCH HOCKEY WE DO NOT NEED !!!!

      For how much "joy" for the "skillful actions of young hockey players" this video has caused in the network. And these are OUR CHILDREN!

      Here is what experience we are adopting because of okiyan, again nothing good, just another example of anger and misanthropy. Under the "bloody Stalin" they did not teach that. And under Khrushchev and Brezhnev too.
      The costs of democracy are beating. . .
    4. -2
      17 May 2013 08: 30
      And all because snickering !!!
      Playing at this level, they are not entitled to such errors. Especially the period when there is a tough inform war !!! The leadership is simply obliged to disperse this (the language does not turn to call them a team) and settle in the north or in the taiga. In any case, during the time of Stalin they did so.

      Well, if you miss the emotions, what can I say ... Dermo happens! Well, what’s lost now ...
      But in the field of tank building and ballet we are ahead of the rest)
      1. -2
        17 May 2013 08: 43
        Quote: JonnyT
        Well, if you miss the emotions, what can I say ... Dermo happens! Well, what’s lost now ...
        But in the field of tank building and ballet we are ahead of the rest)

        And in hockey, we did not succeed last time this time, it means they will work out in doubles at the Olympics!
      2. +3
        17 May 2013 09: 11
        Quote: JonnyT
        And all because snickering !!!

        Well, after all, it was announced in advance that on the eve of the game with the United States, our hockey players would be taken to the countryside for a vacation. Oh, it seems to me that this "rest" is not good for them ...
    5. +3
      17 May 2013 09: 44
      Of course it’s a pity that we lost, in sports it always happens after take-off, the main thing is that they don’t go into a tailspin.
    6. 0
      17 May 2013 09: 50
      I believe. what the guys tried to the last!
    7. Vrungel78
      +2
      17 May 2013 09: 52
      Quote: treskoed
      YES!!!! SUCH HOCKEY WE DO NOT NEED !!!!

      Even as needed. It would be boring if someone alone always won. In any contest there is a winner and a loser. The USA is not such a principled rival as Canada.
      The author is also a minus. Not even for the article, but for its title.
      I am sure you were outraged when the North Korean players were sent to a labor camp for losing at the World Cup. Here you actually offer the same thing.
    8. Gur
      +8
      17 May 2013 09: 54
      Russian national football team, we recognized you take off your skates))))
    9. poizor
      0
      17 May 2013 11: 50
      and under what number do Arshavin and Kerzhakov play?
  2. +7
    17 May 2013 06: 55
    I think that there is no reason to fall into despair and hysteria. The guys played as best they could --- well, no luck, so next time they will win.
    1. +6
      17 May 2013 07: 23
      Quote: awg75
      I think that there is no reason to fall into despair and hysteria. The guys played as best they could --- well, no luck, so next time they will win.

      The strongest are always lucky, but the fact that they played as they could is a fact. The Americans took players from their youth team to the national team, and we took the "time-tested" KHL players, the result is obvious, but there is a plus in all this - now we know who should not be taken to the Olympics, with the exception of a few.
    2. +10
      17 May 2013 08: 04
      Quote: awg75
      I think that there is no reason to fall into despair and hysteria. The guys played as best they could --- well, no luck, so next time they will win.


      good morning everybody hi

      1. The game of the Russian national hockey team, I consider it a failure and sloppiness.
      2.Andrey, here you write, "no luck", but I think that this is fundamentally wrong, I will explain why, the first match with the US team, Russia won, see the infographic.
      3. Do you think the loss with the bang of the French team is bad luck ?! winked
      4. When one case of loss is something else you can understand, and when there are several of them, this is a regularity.
      5. To stay overboard not even the finals but the semifinals, you know. There are no words.
      6. The grossest miscalculation of the coaches is that they did not set the national team to win.
      7. The game of the national team as a whole, in my opinion, eloquently characterizes the situation in society as a whole. Politics, society and sports are so intertwined that a comparison with the Siamese twins is suitable.
      8. Regarding hysteria and despair, I’ll probably agree here, these two concepts are bad advisers, there’s still time before the Olympics, and to neutralize the World Cup failure, you need to win only gold at the Olympics. There can be no questions.
      1. Rustiger
        +1
        17 May 2013 08: 44
        Quote: Apollon
        good morning everybody

        Same to you!
        Quote: Apollon
        7. The game of the national team as a whole, in my opinion, eloquently characterizes the situation in society as a whole. Politics, society and sport are so intertwined

        I would also add commerce to this point.
        One of the decaying factors, I think, is the annual million-dollar contracts of companies providing equipment with athletes. Yes, with that kind of money, you can not step on the ice at all, but simply show the audience in the camera "colorful stripes" from manufacturers.
        Yes, for one inscription "Bauer" on the helmet, if the company paid me, I agree to walk around the construction site without "hitting my finger." It would be suggested. ... ...
      2. 0
        17 May 2013 13: 11
        Quote: Apollon
        good

        And why did the marshal not make a forecast?
        You give the final Suomi Mattress.
        And the goblet will go for the hawk.
        1. 0
          19 May 2013 22: 32
          Quote: Papakiko
          You give the final Suomi Mattress.

          Well, with the winner in the pair, Suomi-Mattress guessed.
          But the Sweden-Switzerland final .......................... this is not just nonsense, it is a delicious spit in everyone. (It remains to wait for the victory of the MEGA hockey power of Switzerland)
          The world has not seen such "giveaways" since the time of the unification of Europe by Adolf Ivanovich.
    3. Gur
      0
      17 May 2013 10: 31
      Fucking "well, no luck" is like a slogan for everything that is going on in Russia, but if they won, it was not "lucky", but hard work? In general, a share of luck should of course be present but not fundamental. And here it is not exactly - "no luck", there is no pruha, the French, Slovaks (in the role of catching up with the first period) and the USA reduced all our luck to "0" or rather "+5"
  3. Lech from ZATULINKI
    +8
    17 May 2013 06: 55
    this is a regularity of our HOCKEY team - they start well and finish badly.
    Although without defeats, there are no victories.
    If you look deeper, you need to revive the courtyard ice rinks and promote hockey among the boys, only in this way you can find new KHARLAM PET FETISH.
    Current stars in foreign clubs often think only about money and not prestige of our country.
    1. +11
      17 May 2013 07: 20
      Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
      Although without defeats, there are no victories.

      Well, not such a defeat .... First, shit France, where it really am Get 8 shaib from amers, we beat all records negative
      1. 0
        17 May 2013 08: 37
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, not such a defeat .... First, to tear France, where is it finally? Get 8 shaib from Amers, we beat all records

        Everything happened in hockey and we were torn and we were tearing hockey. We won’t break through football!
        1. +4
          17 May 2013 08: 45
          Quote: krokodil25
          Everything happened in hockey and we were torn

          But yesterday we were torn! you can talk about patriotism, but you need to think about Sochi today.
          1. +1
            17 May 2013 18: 31
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            but you need to think about Sochi today.

            So they think, they will win, they will send to Sochi there they have to work hard and to hell? when it’s possible to cut down grandmas on advertising am
  4. +8
    17 May 2013 06: 56
    Let’s just do not rush into our team with poop, otherwise how gold is OUR team, and how not ours was lost. Let's be together in grief and joy at the Olympics we will take revenge !!!!
    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      +5
      17 May 2013 07: 04
      I well remember how the PLAYERS OF THE TEAM OF THE SOVIET UNION played and I can compare the game of our TEAM OF RUSSIA.
      High morale, fast Russian hockey and team cohesion are the basis of success.
      The current stars in our team play Canadian hockey, which is generally alien to Russian hockey.
      1. +7
        17 May 2013 07: 22
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        The current stars in our team play Canadian hockey, which is generally alien to Russian hockey.

        Sitting in front of the TV screen, you can talk or yell at the top of your lungs — Radulov, wherever you graze, there’s free there, let me out on the ice net at the gates of the amers with shaibami tear.
        Question to you, are you a hockey player?
        1. Lech from ZATULINKI
          +4
          17 May 2013 07: 35
          Hello ALEXANDER.
          Yes, as a child, he loved to play hockey.
          I watched all the games of our SOVIET TEAM - my favorite players are PETROV and KHARLAM, KASATONOV (FAMOUS THREE)
          And I am saddened by the defeat of our team (there is nothing wrong with that).
          And to make our players in TEAM RUSSIA - untouchable people will agree badly.
          HEALTHY CRITICISM THEM DOES NOT HARM FROM STAR DISEASE NEEDED TO BE TREATED.
          1. +3
            17 May 2013 07: 43
            Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
            Yes, as a child, he loved to play hockey.

            Hello to you too! In childhood, I also liked to play hockey in the yard and on the box. But I'm not a hockey player.
            Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
            And to make our players in TEAM RUSSIA - untouchable people will agree badly.

            Are they untouchable? Now the wave of anger will subside and the people will soberly reflect and understand that when the army (team) loses two battles (games) of France and Finland, the introduction of a new division (player) Ovechkin will not save the situation. You need to change the commander (trainer). We have good players, but no team. There is no defense at all. We don’t need such a trainer, he worked out his own.
            1. Lech from ZATULINKI
              +3
              17 May 2013 07: 48
              So how many coaches have already changed and the style of the game remains the same NHL-vsky
              this is evident immediately upon the attack of the players, everyone plays his own game, and in such cases, our team always loses to a STRONG OPPONENT.
              1. +1
                17 May 2013 08: 12
                Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
                So how many coaches have already changed and the style of the game remains the same NHL-vsky

                Yes, there are no styles in essence, as such. The hockey world is already one, everyone plays each other under contracts. And speaking of style, the United States also played in the NHL style and scored 8 goals for us! And if we talk about style, then Switzerland has pile up and continues to pile on everyone in a row, including twice to the Czechs. If we talk about the style of play, then Canada goes home. And the Swedes also play in the NHL hockey. And in the last championship we became champions thanks to this style.
                1. Lech from ZATULINKI
                  0
                  17 May 2013 08: 17
                  the fact of the matter is that such hockey turns into a gray game - where are the new tricks, tactics,
                  unexpected notions in the game this is not visible they play like a carbon copy of the same thing.
            2. 0
              17 May 2013 09: 10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              We don’t need such a trainer, he worked out his own.

              After the match with France, Kuznetsov said that we ourselves did not finalize (we did not fight at the sides, did not lie under the washers). After yesterday's defeat, some hockey player of the national team said that they themselves did not fulfill the coach's instructions, so why "we don't need such a coach ..."?
          2. Yarbay
            +4
            17 May 2013 08: 18
            Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
            PETROV and KHARLAM, KASATON (FAMOUS THREE)

            Petrov Kharlamov Mikhailov!
          3. +5
            17 May 2013 11: 18
            Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
            my favorite players are PETROV and KHARLAM, KASATONOV (FAMOUS THREE)

            Troika-Mikhailov, Petrov, Kharlamov, defenders of the Tsyganks, Lutchenko. After the death of Kharlamov Makarov. After the departure of Tsygankov and Lutchenko, the defenders of Fetisov and Kasatonov.
            The second shock troika is Balderis, Zhluktov, Kapustin. All of CSKA. Tikhonov created the Dynamo three shock brothers Golikov-Maltsev, with Dynamo defenders Pervukhin-Bilyaletdinov. At different times in the team: strikers Vikulov, Popov, Lobanov, Yakushev, Starshinov, Brozdets Nature, Krutov, Larionov, Anisin.
            The famous "Red Car", which rolled any opponent.
            And now, in the eyes of the dollar, in the soul there is emptiness. Then, even on sports fields, they fought for the Motherland, and now for what, for the dollar?
            1. Yarbay
              +2
              17 May 2013 13: 43
              Quote: baltika-18
              The famous "Red Car", which rolled any opponent.

              The last Mohicans because of which I loved hockey were Larionov, Krutov, Makarov and zashchitniki Fetisov, Kasatonov!
              After them, I am not interested in watching hockey!
              1. +1
                17 May 2013 17: 58
                Yes there was a time.
          4. 0
            17 May 2013 16: 55
            Mikhailov ---- Kharlamov ------ Petrov
            Gusev -------------- Lutchenko
            Tretyak
      2. +3
        17 May 2013 07: 39
        It was the NHLovtsy who played brightly at the last championship and not only them. Last year they said that the national team plays like that "red car" in our hockey. Have you seen the continuous stuffing into the zone as they play in Canada?
        what our people were doing today on the nickle is generally neither ours nor Canadian.
        last year they just took everyone out and from that team the backbone stayed. well lost and to hell with it. there will be a lesson at OI. Chekhs and Canadians also went home
        1. -1
          17 May 2013 08: 56
          Quote: Gleb
          and to hell with him. There will be a lesson on OI. Chekhs and Canadians also went home

          Well, without Russia and Canada, the World Cup is then generally uninteresting negative
      3. +3
        17 May 2013 09: 05
        Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI
        I well remember how the PLAYERS OF THE TEAM OF THE SOVIET UNION played and I can compare the game of our TEAM OF RUSSIA.

        You forget that the USSR team was much more played (a lot of preparation time). It’s not a fact that the trio of Mikhailov - Petrov - Kharlamov and the trio of Larionov - Kasatonov - Krutov would have scored the same if they had been gathered a few weeks before the competition.
        1. +1
          17 May 2013 09: 09
          Quote: tan0472
          You forget that the USSR team was much more played (a lot of preparation time). It’s not a fact that the trio of Mikhailov - Petrov - Kharlamov and the trio of Larionov - Kasatonov - Krutov would have scored the same if they had been gathered a few weeks before the competition.

          Totally agree with you!
      4. Gur
        +1
        17 May 2013 10: 39
        And I agree with you, the Russian hockey, which by the way we borrowed from the Czechs, was combinational, team. What now, alas, no, there are no multi-way combinations, the calculation is only on the class of individual stars. Maybe I'm wrong, but I did not see the teamwork of the team.
    2. Gur
      +1
      17 May 2013 10: 34
      Here you are right, of course, you have to be in place, only the impression is that I wrap around and stink like poop no worse than the hockey team. At least this state of mind.
  5. +7
    17 May 2013 06: 57
    Fellow athletes - who cannot win gold at the Olympics will go to mine it
    1. +9
      17 May 2013 07: 23
      Quote: Straus_zloy
      Fellow athletes - who cannot win gold at the Olympics will go to mine it

      With such slogans, sports fields are completely empty
  6. +5
    17 May 2013 07: 01
    “They are paid money, huge thousands, and even for a loss and for a draw,” Vysotsky apparently sang about the future of our hockey.
    1. Gur
      0
      17 May 2013 10: 52
      Do you think it’s different now? Children are hockey, and indeed, seeing the gonaras of our stars in sports, I tell you how it was. I really didn’t get any more glory from Vladislav Tretyak, but it didn’t work out with my son Tretyak and one Because of the reasons, it’s very expensive, especially for Kazakhstan, where there is practically no hockey with a few exceptions (Ust Kamenogorsk). So I’ll also answer to the friend above to fill the court, parents themselves need to mine gold.
  7. Belogor
    +4
    17 May 2013 07: 02
    sorry of course that they lost. But there will be something to work on, resting on our laurels does not lead to anything good.
  8. +9
    17 May 2013 07: 04
    Quote: Alex66
    “They are paid money, huge thousands, and even for a loss and for a draw,” Vysotsky apparently sang about the future of our hockey.

    Let it be known that they play for the national team for free. And they receive expensive gifts in case of victory at the World Cup. And even counting other people's money is at least not beautiful.
  9. +5
    17 May 2013 07: 11
    It is a pity that the wrong Soviet sport and that idea to fight to the end for prestige and homeland. Today, sport is a big game of itrigi, conspiracy and giveaway. The consciousness of our hockey players is first of all set up probably on the material side, and then on everything else. It is necessary to really change this, because we can when we want to gather our courage, with the strength and fortitude of our spirit and repulse our competitor and enemy. WAKE RUSSIA FROM ABOUT DREAM !!!
  10. vilenich
    +11
    17 May 2013 07: 15
    Hockey hockey, lost, annoyingly oh well, conclusions will be drawn, trained, recouped!
    But how much poison do I get towards Stalin!
    goalkeeper Ilya Bryzgalov, famous on the eve scandalous interview about Stalin

    What is his scandalous interview! For mattresses it may well be, they certainly did not like it!
    But Bryzgalov cannot be called a supporter of the communist idea and Stalin’s language, because later in the interview he answers the journalist’s question:
    “And whose side would you take in the Civil War?”
    - Both there and there were Russian people. You can not choose someone. We, contemporaries, do not know who was right and to blame. I am generally against violence.

    And judging by the article, it turns out that Bryzgalov missed 4 goals, only because he spoke positively about Stalin!
    Only for this minus the article.
    1. +5
      17 May 2013 08: 00
      I agree, the article with a sweet smell, smacks of anti-Stalinist rhetoric. And for the loss, of course, it's a shame. But this is SPORT! And in sports, anything can happen. Something was missing for the team in this game, maybe courage or good luck. Or just underestimated the opponent. But I drew attention to the faces of the winners (players and fans). There was so much hatred, neglect, and bile for the Russians. Or maybe it just seemed ... But Bryzgalov’s answers in a famous interview impress me.
  11. +8
    17 May 2013 07: 18
    And I am proud of our guys, our hockey school, although I am very worried about this loss. I myself went in for sports and I know that there are no victories without defeats. For hockey players, the crisis is not systemic, they are the best anyway. Just now they will understand, if about something forgotten and "plow" in training will be as it should. Without black there would be no white and Olympic gold. It's better this way .... than "for example" an honorary silver. Hockey in Russia is more than hockey! And guys, this is not just for everyone show and kick and do.
    1. +3
      17 May 2013 07: 23
      You one more +.
      Here, some are simply proud of our boys only when they are awarded gold! Without thinking that our NHL team unanimously said that even if the NHL did not let them go to the Olympics, they themselves would leave. Although they risk losing their job for which they receive money, only out of a desire Free play for the national team of your country !!!
      1. +2
        17 May 2013 07: 46
        Quote: avant-garde
        ! Without thinking that our NHL team unanimously said that even if the NHL did not let them go to the Olympics, they themselves would leave.

        The crap is complete when the Olympics go, the NHL games stop, and the players leave for their teams. And this is one of the non-contractual clauses of hockey players playing in the NHL and in the KHL. hi
        1. +1
          17 May 2013 07: 56
          When you do not know it is better not to speak !!!!
          The participation of the Nkhlovites in the 2014 Olympics in Sochi remains in question - until the parties have agreed on each other. The next round of negotiations between the IIHF, the IOC and the NHL Players Union will take place at the end of this working week.

          A meeting of officials will be held in New York. In addition to representatives of the three above-mentioned organizations, representatives of the NHL will also attend it.

          The NHL has sent the best players to the Olympics since 1998, but so far it is not eager to put the Nkhlovites in Sochi.




          - But in Russia, information has gone that the NHL may not let its players in Sochi.

          - And I have other information - that the NHL will let everyone go! But even if they push back, we and the guys have long had an agreement that we will go anyway. This will, of course, be a special Olympics. Not everyone manages to take part in the Olympic Games in their homeland. I was very lucky that I was born at the right time, ”Sport-Express quotes Malkin.
          1. +2
            17 May 2013 08: 05
            Quote: avant-garde
            - But in Russia, information has gone that the NHL may not let its players in Sochi.

            Once again I tell you, crap is complete !!!
            Quote: avant-garde
            When you do not know it is better not to speak !!!!

            For the US, the Olympic Games are all, and if the NHL does not send the best there, this will be the end of the NHL. so when you don’t know, it’s better to remain silent, then you’re right hi
            1. +1
              17 May 2013 08: 09
              The NHL is a commercial league and it doesn’t give a damn about all the Olympics, but since you don’t even believe the articles and interviews of hockey players, it’s your right!
              1. +2
                17 May 2013 08: 43
                Quote: avant-garde
                NHL commercial league and she deeply spit on all olympiads

                I don’t want and will not argue with you, especially since you are far from the realities of the NHL. I return you the minus and all the best hi
                1. +1
                  17 May 2013 08: 46
                  Thank you for the minus))). I do not argue with you! I give you press clippings, but you do not believe them.
                  The head of the International Ice Hockey Federation, Rene Fasel, explained what and who is preventing an agreement on the participation of NHL players in the Sochi Games. "What prevents the final settlement of the issue? I would say: the selfishness of certain individuals from North America who are not interested in the participation of the strongest professionals in the Olympic Games. However, most of the club owners, just like the players, only for, they really want it," quoted by "Vesti" the words of the head of the International Ice Hockey Federation.

                  “So we will continue negotiations, we will discuss everything with Bettman, with the union, we will try to settle the existing differences, find a solution to these problems,” continues Fasel. “There is no deadline for an agreement with the NHL, but I would like an agreement to be reached before the start World Cup. That would give the federations time to prepare for Sochi. "
                  Do you have a rebuttal to these words ?? If you do not want to conduct a dialogue with me just do not answer !!!
            2. Rustiger
              0
              17 May 2013 09: 34
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              For the US, the Olympic Games are all and if the NHL

              This loss is doubly offensive because of the fact that young guys played for amers, half of whom had never gone on the ice at the level of the World Cup. The team is one of the youngest, with "unfamiliar" names.
              Amer and especially Canadians have always stated that the level of the Olympics is much higher than the annual championships. They say that such a frequency has long discredited and leveled the value of World Cup awards.
              It was a test of strength, training fighters and sharpening them to win the Olympics. Our "Zina" kept the young people on the bench and released them drunk with "residual phenomena", apparently after Ovechkin's stormy night meeting.
              But he didn’t pour a life-giving beer. . . Perhaps you will be sad and lethargic here. . sad
  12. SCS
    SCS
    +4
    17 May 2013 07: 19
    do not touch both the Team and Stalin! this is a game and we are all people! on the contrary, they need support and preparation for the Olympics! there they’ll show the game ... good

    “It comes to the head of an“ iron order ”supporter, where he would be now if his favorite historical character watched his game today,” journalist Elena Zelinskaya sadly clarified in her blog.

    Dear Elena, he’d be in training now, in training !!!!
  13. +1
    17 May 2013 07: 34
    The sad fact.
    So easily last year everyone was torn up and so stupidly performed now.
    Defeat from the French, and 3: 8 from amers.
    It is necessary to draw conclusions.
    1. +2
      17 May 2013 07: 47
      Quote: radio operator
      Defeat from the French

      Quote: radio operator
      It is necessary to draw conclusions.

      It was necessary to put 10 thousand to win the French laughing
  14. vladsolo56
    0
    17 May 2013 07: 35
    Stalin is certainly out of place here. I guess I lost because I paid well. Today, sport is not only local, but the world is a business. Who pays more and wins.
    1. Vrungel78
      +2
      17 May 2013 10: 06
      Your judgments smack of conspiracy theory
      1. 0
        17 May 2013 12: 50
        - Yes, the current sport is a show, but, as you know, it must go on! Recall the case with Tyson, when without him had a match for the title of champion! Tyson was in the audience ... he was indignant, but they explained to him, they say it’s not interesting with you, the result is predictable, they don’t want to bet on the sweepstakes, no intrigue, in a word ...
  15. +3
    17 May 2013 07: 35
    The day before yesterday I watched "Legend No. 17" - the film is very good, yesterday it was hockey. I liked Tarasov's words - you need to play the way you fight for your Motherland. Yesterday you did not fight for your Motherland.
  16. NickitaDembelnulsa
    +2
    17 May 2013 07: 37
    Personally, I am not offended by our hockey players. We did everything we could, and there will be a lesson for all of us for the future
  17. vitek1233
    +2
    17 May 2013 07: 39
    you need to invite less stars from the NHL and more coordinated triples and fives from our league
    1. +4
      17 May 2013 08: 06
      Quote: vitek1233
      you need to invite less stars from the NHL and more coordinated triples and fives from our league

      It would be nice for young and evil boys to medals, pay more attention. IMHO.
  18. +11
    17 May 2013 07: 41
    Well, as always. Stalin is to blame.
  19. +5
    17 May 2013 07: 43
    Eternally, we are engaged in cap-making, the guys played as best they could, the new generation, the change of generations, the gender of the composition is generally young guys from 20 to 24 years old. Remember the two championships in a row, the USA brought unknown guys to the championship and then they also busted out, once without even leaving the group. For this you want to be able to win and lose. Losing is also an experience. And where does Stalin have no idea in my mind. In Sochi, see what the RUSSIAN TEAM costs. Good luck to you guys. AND WE NEED ONE VICTORY ONE FOR ALL OF US FOR THE PRICE IS NOT WORTH SOCHI 2014 ....... !!!!!!
  20. +3
    17 May 2013 07: 45
    And I believe that ours is now playing the ugly clone of American hockey!
    And until we revive OUR SOVIET Hockey, we will observe IT!
    1. +1
      17 May 2013 08: 14
      ugly clone of american hockey

      ))

      1. +3
        17 May 2013 08: 50
        Is this video all about?
        1. +1
          17 May 2013 09: 05
          we lost in the finals in 2010, many also criticized the athletes. A video appeared where our people are relaxing in a tavern. Someone filmed with glasses, someone smoked. In the morning to play and in the evening relax))
          Bulls also answered this video
          1. +2
            17 May 2013 10: 39
            what do you have nothing to do ?? especially in the previous video, smokes, smokes, smokes.
            Yes, what is your business zhurnalyug ??!
  21. 0
    17 May 2013 07: 50
    If they win all the time, then it will not be interesting to watch. Before the appearance of Schumacher in the formula, he did not miss a single report, and with it the result was known after 5 minutes of racing, it was not interesting. I hope our hockey players will draw conclusions.
  22. +3
    17 May 2013 07: 51
    Yes-ah ... Well, guys get ready. Because of you, my wife was offended by her husband yesterday. Almost in the trash came. For a long time I found out what happened and who was to blame. I found out. Armed. And her memory is phenomenal.
  23. +5
    17 May 2013 07: 52
    Again bet on legionnaires. Type come and tear all. Hockey team game. Teamwork is achieved through persistent joint training, which was already the case in the 90s when most of our hockey players rushed to the NHL, and the absolute majority of goals scored was based on an individual game then, but this is not enough. And how the Soviet team played out too much. Few removal of an opponent went unpunished.
    I propose to take money from the players and pay our hockey players that they would not go overseas. In hockey, at least they can win. This football is bad business, it is useless to do something there.
    And our team wished to be cheerful and train and train. So that this defeat was a lesson for them. And repressions will not solve anything. Only training.
    1. +1
      17 May 2013 08: 05
      Let's say that we do not take the NHL team, but only the guys from the KHL and how do you imagine their joint training for the team ??? After all, we also have a championship, and they play in different teams. Cancel the KHL championship, so that they only played enough for the team ???
      1. vladsolo56
        +2
        17 May 2013 08: 21
        How was the USSR team assembled? or that there were fewer problems?
        1. +1
          17 May 2013 08: 25
          why collect it? CSKA was the base club of the team. the national team represented almost the whole of CSKA and Spartak
      2. 0
        17 May 2013 08: 50
        And what, KHL teams can not sometimes play without some of their players? What is more important, the domestic championship or the Olympics? And how much easier it is to gather for a training camp inside the country or to fly half a team from across the ocean, where they are absolutely not interested in the strength of our team. The owners of the teams are sure to do everything so that our forwards play as little as possible as part of our team. In addition, how the US team managed to get in such a form when they also have a championship
  24. +1
    17 May 2013 08: 01
    This is actually just a game. What does not happen. But if you play in a sweater with the emblem of Russia, then you need something more serious or something. The first goal is indicative. 2 rolled toward his nickle barely. Go and still have time to talk among themselves. And the Americans at this time nimble scored.
  25. keeper
    +3
    17 May 2013 08: 10
    I hoped that Zila would show courage and really gather a young team at the World Cup. Tarasov was a strong personality and was not afraid for his career. Now either the times are not the same or the personalities are not the ones who, for the sake of raising a new team, can risk their career and reputation. As a result, say as Tarasov: "I brought up a national team that can beat any team!"
  26. Boot under the carpet
    -1
    17 May 2013 08: 10
    Stalin would have been waiting for them in the locker room!
    1. +2
      17 May 2013 09: 01
      I don’t think I would have expected. I would just send my direct duties at the place of work or service if I can’t play. And I would find those who can. But I would have some questions for officials sending hockey players to the NHL
  27. Asketxnumx
    +4
    17 May 2013 08: 16
    And to hell with it, with the result. It's a shame, of course. The thing is different. It was clearly seen that these professionals only depicted the struggle. None of them overexerted. Surely they remembered about the upcoming games, about the amounts of contracts. And they don’t need a risk - injuries, hospital beds and more. In short: they just worked. Did not win - well, okay. Contract work is more important than some World Cup. And our youth sees and understands all this, draws conclusions. And with such education, counting on our future victories is naive.
  28. +1
    17 May 2013 08: 52
    We need to start with the construction of hockey courts in the yards. Gifted youth need to be raised in their homeland, especially since we have a serious hockey school. And to recruit nhl-catchers and legionnaires is the last thing.
  29. fenix57
    +1
    17 May 2013 08: 53
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Get 8 shaib from amers, we beat all records

    I’ve already poured out my heart yesterday. The last time I gave out such pearls while watching the Russia-Canada match at the Olympics (4: 7). But Tretyak assured that there would be no “layoffs”. Although the "piston" must be inserted! Deprive all bonuses a year in advance!
  30. +2
    17 May 2013 08: 55
    The team must be played, so that the player only thinks that he wants to do something, and his partner already knows what he was thinking about. What would be a real team with a capital letter, hockey players must train together. Time for playing abroad in this case not enough. I doubt that the USSR national team would have had such results if the Kharlamovs, Petrovs, Mikhailovs had played for the NHL
  31. Net
    Net
    +1
    17 May 2013 09: 04
    It’s right that they replaced the goalkeeper. This showed even more clearly that the problem is in defense, not in the goalkeeper.
  32. Abakanets
    -4
    17 May 2013 09: 08
    Fooled by them! It seems that the article was written in a padded jacket. The guys were just out of luck, and no more, they have a very good track record.
  33. +2
    17 May 2013 09: 38
    There are many people in the national team who will be worried about such a result. For men like Kovalchuk, even second place is a failure. This means that at the Olympics they will turn themselves inside out in order to regain respect, first of all, to themselves (and not from the herd of those “grief fans” who are now throwing mud at them).
    I would like the KHL to give more time for normal preparation before the Olympics and that the strongest players from those who wants to play in the national team (and not like that young talented player from Tractor who did not want to play for youth in the World Cup). If the club is more important to you - play in the club and there is nothing for you to do in the national team (all the same, you will not tear your belly button in it as you are tearing for the club).
    1. +1
      17 May 2013 12: 08
      Are you talking about Nichushkin Chtoli? played when he let go of the club. There is a board of directors, in which case the management decides to let go or not.
  34. 0
    17 May 2013 09: 56
    The country of "crooked mirrors" is very difficult for an intelligent child in the country of Russia without support, and often they are left without support. And then, by their own labor, these children rise to achieve success and suddenly they become needed.
  35. +2
    17 May 2013 10: 06
    The players of the Russian national ice hockey team are professional, i.e. They earn by this profession. And all sorts of phrases like "well, it didn't work out, but last year!" are not appropriate here. I think the cruise ship team would not forgive the mistakes in which the ship sank (well, it did not work out this time!) to do the job with dignity for which you get a lot of money, while disgracing the honor of the country - down with the club! Look for another job. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that every citizen of our country has an unpleasant aftertaste from yesterday's spectacle!
  36. 0
    17 May 2013 10: 26
    Quote: supervisor
    disgracing the honor of the country

    The honor of the country is disgraced by our players !!!
    The example of a cruise ship in my opinion is not much unfortunate, because in sports there is always a loser and this is a fact! The guys tried and fought for the country, and once again I repeat for FREE !!!! and throwing stones at them is not right, they must be supported in difficult times. We’ll rest, they will sort out the mistakes the coaching staff will draw conclusions, they will correct the game and go ahead for gold in Sochi !!!!
  37. +3
    17 May 2013 10: 32
    As if dead
    lies your partner.
    And well, to hell with it - let it lie.
    Do not blunder, bull, -
    God wants the puck
    God is on the podium - he will not forgive!


    If in the game I saw the "cockpit", sincere sports anger and desire to win - I would forgive my team for this sporting failure. If they did their best, they would do everything they could. They just "worked". Without a spark, without a soul. "Pass-through match," so to speak.

    I will not forget. Will not forgive. My country should not play like that - neither in the yard, nor at the World Cup, nor at the Olympics.
  38. +3
    17 May 2013 10: 35
    And what would Stalin have done with them? Why is it believed that since Stalin's time they would have been repressed? Of course, the Stalinist model of management would certainly have made organizational conclusions, but if all the guilty at that time were sent to the Gulag, then there would not be enough camps. All hockey players of Stalia would play in domestic clubs and some rosy-cheeked chip-eaters would never allow themselves phrases like "these are your problems", that's such a terrible bloody tyrant!
  39. +2
    17 May 2013 10: 42
    An unfortunate and absurd case, but in a war there are not only battles won, we are all human beings and we all have a change in moods and desires, therefore, I do not blame the guys, but support them. Yes, they only need to be supported for what they play for us. There will be something to think about before Sochi, there will be time to work with tactics. Things are good)
    Go Russia!
  40. +4
    17 May 2013 10: 51
    In my opinion, playing for your country is the most important and responsible athlete’s life. It’s an honor! You can’t give it 110%! A team with such a history and well-deserved fame cannot lose with such a score! So we didn’t fight. This is not our only defeat national team in this championship. Even in the game with Austria having won, they conceded a huge number of goals into their own net. This is not a coincidence, but a regularity.
    1. +3
      17 May 2013 10: 55
      maybe you’ll try to be an attacker yourself ???
      or protector ???
  41. +2
    17 May 2013 11: 05
    Bryzgalov’s attitude towards Stalin has nothing to do with yesterday’s game. He, like any person, has the right to express his attitude to that period of history, but as for the game, I think he understood everything himself.
    It seems to me that our team once again brings game discipline, the tandem coach-team is the result of victories, the ability to realize the ideas of the coaching staff in the game is skill (only thanks to this, Schumacher was able to become a seven-time champion) Well, it's time to pack the youth , because many of the current composition is already on the way.
    Good luck to all of us! hi
  42. 0
    17 May 2013 11: 09
    See for yourself. All bets go to those people who only by the quarter finals deigned to please their team with their visit. I watched the match, though with beeches, played on the same skate, hoped for star admirers of our team. What did the same Ovechkin do for the whole match? Ugh, losers. crying
  43. 0
    17 May 2013 11: 20
    Now, if today my Amkar still doesn’t win at Rostov’s home, then such a Woe will begin for me ... Hmmm ...
    1. 0
      17 May 2013 12: 09
      CSKA Champion!)
  44. +1
    17 May 2013 11: 42
    The team has no motivation. Well, why play for a country in which you no longer live ????? Over the hill, multi-million dollar contracts .. you are injured God forbid .... who then will catch the contract in the United States ??? you can roll back in half power ... and no problem
  45. 0
    17 May 2013 11: 49
    wassat
    Probably many of us are so similar to those guys in the elevator
  46. snek
    -10
    17 May 2013 11: 56
    Oh my God! our few men with hockey sticks drive the puck worse than a few American men. Oh God! Forget about corruption, forget about problems with education and science! All these are trifles. That's the fact that men drive the puck badly - here it is: the true misfortune of Russia. Do not forget to take the catfish pill and discuss further on this burning topic.
  47. +3
    17 May 2013 12: 02
    Where does the homeland begin?
    From the picture in your letter,
    With good and faithful comrades,
    Living in a neighboring yard.

    Or maybe it starts
    From the song that our mother sang to us.
    Since in any tests
    We do not take anyone away.

    Where does the homeland begin?
    From the treasured bench at the gate.
    With the same birch tree in the field,
    Under the wind bending, growing.

    Or maybe it starts
    Since the spring funeral of the starling
    And from this road country,
    Which you can not see the end.

    Where does the homeland begin?
    From the burning windows in the distance,
    From the old paternal budenovki,
    That somewhere in the closet we found.

    Or maybe it starts
    From the clatter of car wheels
    And with an oath, which in his youth
    You brought it to your heart.

    WHAT DOES HOMELAND BEGIN WITH? ..
  48. 0
    17 May 2013 12: 15
    Where does the homeland begin?
    Does the NHL paycheck?
    From the drain to the French and Amers,
    Which almost turned gray?

    Or maybe it starts
    From the words "this is your problem"?
    From the fans of the bitter mat
    For those who again “flew” ?.

    Or maybe it starts
    With ads on the forehead of MEGAFON?
  49. +2
    17 May 2013 12: 32
    There is no Stalin on them! et for sure ... yes discuss no mood .... so merge! am
  50. Avenger711
    0
    17 May 2013 12: 47
    “It comes to the head of an“ iron order ”supporter, where he would be now if his favorite historical character watched his game today,” journalist Elena Zelinskaya sadly clarified in her blog.


    At a local city club. Or is it supposed that the boobies that dishonored the country can remain in its team? Last year was Malkin, now his kind of dumb, and the team zero without a stick?
  51. +2
    17 May 2013 12: 52
    Under the USSR, the team was played by Russian citizens, who went to the game like their fathers and grandfathers went to battle during the Second World War. They were proud of their country, they played for VICTORY, and not for the sake of a new limousine! These were true PATRIOTS of their Motherland! And now they have agreed on the “price” - he “plays” for his homeland, they haven’t agreed, he plays for the British! In those years when Vladislav Tretyak or Vladimir Myshkin stood in goal for the USSR, my father and I watched all the matches. Not only the European and World Championships, but also all Russian matches, no matter whether the game is during the day, evening or night. There was something to see! The hockey players seemed to be playing for life and death! Personally, in those years I knew every player by name: who played in which top three, and not only MY OWN team, but also the lineups of rivals of leading foreign teams. And with the collapse of the country, values ​​changed. "Fixed" games appeared. I don’t see that pride for their country and the “spark” in the eyes of today’s hockey players. It saddens me to realize that EVERYTHING has become corrupt...
    1. +1
      17 May 2013 18: 18
      Big +. My thoughts were voiced.
  52. Yoke
    +2
    17 May 2013 12: 54
    It's all Gusev's fault!!! When he comments, ours lose!)))
  53. +5
    17 May 2013 13: 13
    Krutov, Kasatonov, Larionov, Kharlamov, Fetisov, Tretyak...
    I grew up with these last names.
    The “Red Machine” under the leadership of Tikhonov did not know defeat and was a symbol that people looked up to with pride.

    Almost all courtyards had simple but flooded skating rinks, even in distant garrisons between the DOSs. Everyone played with gusto, whether on skates or in felt boots. I remember my putter wrapped in blue tape.
    This was one of the best patriotic education for teenagers and something that united all adults, and not just a game.
    Where are the teenagers now? In the gateways or playing games.
    Where's the money? They're sawing at the Olympics.

    I remember Tretyak’s interview in the magazine “Physical Culture and Sports”, telling how the Canadians tried to train at the CSKA base and left there two weeks later green from overexertion...

    Eh-eh... After all, there are masters even now... But everyone has only money, money on their minds. It feels like they are playing for the national team for a medal, and not for their Country.

    ...Hockey players actively gave interviews...,
    And this, as a former athlete, finally killed me, if only they had arranged a photo shoot before the competition. It's a pity. I hope that in the future skill will prevail over everything else.
    And you can’t take these cups away from us. This is PRIDE.
  54. Asketxnumx
    +3
    17 May 2013 13: 28
    Yeah, wait. Today's players, with the exception of a few boys, are yesterday! They are poisoned by contracts. They will still work on them - and no more. The conversation is not about losing, but about HOW you lost! You can no longer count on these “pros for making bucks.”
  55. xan
    +1
    17 May 2013 13: 49
    Throughout the championship, it was clear that our team had problems with defense.
    And the last match was just garbage, for every one of our hard-earned goals the Amers easily scored two. Almost every mistake in defense ended in a goal, the goalkeeper did not save at all.
    I consider all mistakes to be on the conscience of the coaching staff.
    I have no complaints about the performance of Ovechkin and Kovalchuk, they played well.
  56. managa3
    0
    17 May 2013 14: 24
    the guys tried, but alas it didn’t work out... take past victories into account... don’t judge too harshly... and the lineup wasn’t full... although it’s a shame that Malkin and Datsuk aren’t there at such a moment... as the game showed they are irreplaceable for now
  57. Best novel
    +2
    17 May 2013 14: 26
    Personal opinion - sport has been ruined by business. Any athlete is bought and sold (in any sport). And if he spends most of his life in another country, patriotism gradually dies. All that matters is what if he gets injured, what if he breaks his leg - that’s it forfeit, how can you earn bucks later? During the match it was announced: the USSR national team at the World Cup met with the US national team 28 times, winning 28 victories with a goal difference of 1 to 10. And when the Americans play with half-under-Americans, the result is scoreboard
  58. +3
    17 May 2013 15: 00
    No, the boys earned their wages from the owners in dollars.
  59. rnb1983
    0
    17 May 2013 15: 40
    It’s a pity, of course... that’s not what we expected from the guys. Still, the team mostly depends on the NHL players. Last year they tore everyone apart!!! And without Malkin and Datsyuk, the team play has disappeared somewhere, there is no such sharpness and dedication. And it was necessary to attract young people... Let's wait until Sochi, it will be a completely different game there drinks
  60. +1
    17 May 2013 16: 27
    What did you want? Well, it didn’t work out. We played as best we could. The Americans came out with the mindset of defeating the strongest team and won.
    We are not ashamed of ourselves, let alone our country. Talk about how they were worried, hypocrisy. It’s bad that over 25 years there have been fewer patriots in the country, not only in hockey, but everywhere.
    The whole story is reminiscent of a Soviet-era joke about the quality mark, the pentagon. When asked what this figure means, the respondent spreads his legs, spreads his arms and plaintively says: “It’s better if we can’t.”
    It’s time to introduce patriotism by force, then in a few years that’s what will happen.
  61. -4
    17 May 2013 17: 04
    To all commentators!!!!! Read what you write!!! YOU, who have never lifted a finger in your rotten life, are discussing people who have achieved something in their lives and SOMETHING (I would even say a LOT of SOMETHING) that they have done for their Motherland. What kind of people!!!
    1. 0
      17 May 2013 17: 12
      I understand emotions, but life is not worth talking about like that.
      Otherwise, I agree. Moreover, what kind of hockey player does one have to be to hear and read such things about oneself? A masochist? This is for the whole world. But for many, after the championship, their careers will freeze and their contracts will be renegotiated. Have you ever fought in life? Who wants to be beaten? in everyone's sight? And in the national team there are 15 people with the status of world champion and there are more than one-time champions. How do they feel? Or do they have no ambitions? Healthy, athletic. Those who have been involved should understand how a person feels when he loses... otherwise everything is in some kind of mercantile channel is being translated
      (Alexander Medvedev sends greetings to all pessimists here:
      “I urge all fans and specialists not to bark from the gates, but, on the contrary, to offer something”)
      1. -1
        17 May 2013 18: 16
        but life is not worth it


        On Internet forums, people are embarrassed to call themselves by their own names and show their faces, hiding behind some conventions invented by someone. Everything seems to me in a different light - people use this to cover up their worthlessness. As for A. Medvedev’s proposal, it’s enough just not to bark and our athletes will be able to appreciate the tactfulness of their fans
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      17 May 2013 18: 16
      Quote: rexby63
      YOU, who have never laid a finger in your rotten life

      Your life is rotten!
      Don't judge people you don't know by your worthless life!
      1. -1
        17 May 2013 18: 23
        But you judge!!! And unlike you and your assholes (hamsters), I blame only myself for my “shoals”, and do not look for a “switchman” from the outside
    3. 0
      17 May 2013 20: 35
      No need to la-la! Here I have a seven-hour working day, both in management (plankton calls the office) and in the workshop, from seven in the morning to seven in the evening, or even longer. And I grab the weekend. Sometimes during working hours I get distracted by the Internet, but not for long. I’ve achieved it, I’m earning money. So these guys went to lose for my money. Using my income and what I created in the country.
      1. -2
        17 May 2013 21: 37
        Using my income and what I created in the country.


        You are already fully insured against one type of death
  62. Horde
    +1
    17 May 2013 17: 50
    They simply DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to lose to 3-8 Americans; the worst thing is that they lost WILLLESSLY DID NOT FIGHT. In short, they crap themselves. We are waiting for Putin’s Olympics with a BAD FEELING. sad
  63. +1
    17 May 2013 17: 57
    To be honest, the most annoying expressions in the comments are - well, bad luck, this time it didn’t work out, next time it will work out, it’s just a game, etc. and so on. No gentlemen, this is not just a game! This is a highly paid job! This is more than just work because these workers are dressed in the colors of the Motherland and have the coat of arms of the Motherland on their chests and they represent the Motherland on the international stage!
    So what we saw was a defect and lack of professionalism!
    Anything can happen. And this chance, of course, can affect the result. There could have been 2nd, 3rd and even 4th place, but we would have seen that this was an accident! Our team fought! We are not ashamed of the guys! They are the strongest! They will cope and improve!
    What did we see?! Losing to the French on May 9!!! You know what I immediately thought - Lord, at least not to the Germans! I have heard this more than once and from others! Losing to the finals - well, it’s kind of like... well, it happens. Losing to the Americans 8-3 and that's it!!! This is a crappy job! This is not professionalism! That's shameful! This is a marriage!
    It is necessary to seriously understand what happened in order to prevent a repetition of this shame in the future! There is no place for cheaters on the national team, whether they are NHL players, KHL players, coaches, sports officials...
  64. +1
    17 May 2013 19: 08
    To be honest, losing is not fatal, although it is unpleasant.
    But what’s terribly offensive is the crushing score of 3-8, because in order to lose like that, you have to try hard!! To hell with it, a loss of 1-2 goals can be explained by the vicissitudes of the game, but a gap of 5 goals for the world champions and heirs of the “red machine” is, in my opinion, somehow too much.
  65. +1
    17 May 2013 19: 50
    And I feel sorry for Bilyaletdinov, it was clear that he was bitter for such a game.
  66. stranik72
    0
    17 May 2013 20: 39
    Russia doesn't like to lose. Russia always wants to be a winner, that’s what our ancestors were, remember, and “it’s not scary to die for Russia.” It seems to be a sport, but the defeat on Victory Day surprised me, again someone will say that this is a sport, but then the thought flashed through my mind that there would be no victory in this championship, just as there would be no victory at the Olympic Games, and the point is not that someone did not set up the training process correctly or anything else, it’s just that those who were formed in the era of the “boor who drank everything on drink” are playing, serving, working, and they are increasingly important in life and sports. in principle they cannot be winners, that’s all.
  67. -1
    17 May 2013 21: 43
    I will not touch on the strategy and tactics of the game, although like many previous commentators, I will note that they played so-so, without sparkle and normal sports passion. I suggest looking at the loss from a slightly different angle. What happened in the world before this game? The British and Israeli prime ministers, the secretary of the State Department come to the president, all with one question about Syria. Judging by the results, having achieved nothing, they went home, and the foreign minister made it clear that air defense systems had been delivered to Syria, which also did not delight the well-wishers of the democratizers .Well, it was necessary to sweeten this pill for them with something. So perhaps that’s why they leaked the game to the Americans, so to speak, sacrificing a piece to win position and tempo, as they call it in chess, a gambit, it seems. And our pop positionists have a bone to pick for a week, while the anal one is put behind bars. How do you, gentlemen, like this version?
  68. Red hornet
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    17 May 2013 23: 32
    “It comes to the head of an“ iron order ”supporter, where he would be now if his favorite historical character watched his game today,” journalist Elena Zelinskaya sadly clarified in her blog.


    Well, what kind of vulgar hints are these, Mrs. Zelinskaya?
    Has the damned one really reached out again?! belay
    When will you finally get tired of constantly clinging to Stalin, with or without reason?
    Or do Baba Lera’s “laurels” give you no peace? Dubious “glory,” to put it mildly, because these are not laurels, but a jester’s cap... with bells.

    PS
    And nothing terrible would have happened to Ilya Bryzgalov, I’m sure.
    They would start training the team until they worked up a sweat - that’s a fact. Until the rematch - at least...
    Well, one of the sports functionaries would definitely fly off their chairs.
    How else? If you don't know how, don't try it...
  69. +1
    17 May 2013 23: 37
    It’s sad, of course, that we lost, but God willing, Russia will gather its courage, revenge in Sochi is ours!!!
  70. 0
    18 May 2013 00: 48
    As Comrade Stalin would say, she didn’t lose, but won with a score of 3:0.
    But why with so little and who decided to give a head start to the Americans - Comrade Beria will deal with this.
  71. shpuntik
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    18 May 2013 01: 30
    Igor Larionov went down in the history of Soviet hockey not only thanks to his excellent game and filigree technique.

    Larionov - Tikhonov. The Letter That Changed Hockey Forever
    http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/centre/372410.html

    I think the coach is to blame. And those who appointed him. Claims also to Fetisov as a leader. For some reason I thought: the guys will earn money in the NHL, come back to Russia and open their own schools and become coaches. After all, we have a dollar, one in thirty, and we can build a skating rink. I follow Fetisov’s career in the press, and I haven’t seen anything good. Yes, he played well, but the coach was Tikhonov. And why did they roll the barrel at him, together with Larionov? They spat on the one who made them specialists and champions. This is not masculine. We listened to the NHL leaders.
    1. 0
      18 May 2013 15: 38
      So look for the origins of our instability there in the 80s and don’t throw mud at (I’m not talking about you, but for the forum in general) current hockey players. They, like us, are reaping what the goats Mogilny, Kasatonov, Krutov, Makarov, Fetisov have sown. That is, those for whom most commentators sing their praises at the top of their voices (Ah, Soviet hockey, ah, the most productive five). And they, the “most productive five”, represented by Larionov, spoiled the entire Soviet hockey with this letter
  72. 0
    18 May 2013 01: 35
    Minus for the name
  73. 0
    19 May 2013 21: 43
    What does Stalin have to do with it?...This is sport and nothing more