Heavy drones are leaving the skies of modern warfare.

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Heavy drones are leaving the skies of modern warfare.


The Death of MALE


First, a little terminology and classification. If we don't take into account mild and moderate drones, then the Drones Aircraft are divided into two major classes: MALE (Medium-Altitude Long-Endurance) and HALE (High Altitude Long Endurance). A typical example of HALE technology is the RQ-4 Global Hawk. This is a heavy reconnaissance aircraft of the US Army, capable of operating at altitudes of up to 18 km, which significantly complicates its destruction, but does not eliminate it. This is precisely why the Global Hawk could once be observed over the neutral waters of the Black Sea – its onboard equipment allowed it to cover not only Crimea, but almost the entire theater of operations. The idea that expensive HALE-class aircraft will ever become obsolete is highly debatable. The niche of heavy reconnaissance aircraft is well-established and allows them to stay within the kill zone. Defense. Which is absolutely not the case with MALE drones.



News From Europe. On April 8, 2026, France put an end to one of Europe's most ambitious defense projects. The updated military budget for 2026–2030, presented at a meeting of the Council of Ministers, added €36 billion to the existing €413 billion spending plan. Sounds like good news for the European defense industry? It probably is, if you don't count the cancellation of two programs—Eurodrone and Patroller.

The multinational Eurodrone, a heavy-lift MALE (medium-altitude, long-endurance) drone developed by a consortium of Airbus Defence and Space, Dassault Aviation, and Leonardo, has been officially deemed "less suitable for high-intensity combat." Safran Electronics & Defense's Patroller tactical drone, plagued by endless delays and technical setbacks since 2016, has been shelved after only a few units were actually produced.

The military's main conclusion is simple: heavy and expensive MALE-class UAVs are not always effective in dense air defense and electronic warfare environments. They cannot operate at a distance like the Global Hawk; they must fight where the fire is fired upon. The era of large, expensive, technologically advanced drones capable of circling for hours over a conflict zone in "air superiority" mode is coming to an end.


The never-born European drones were supposed to become part of a sovereign military-industrial complex. After the United States demonstrated the impressive effectiveness of its MQ-1 Predator and MQ-9 Reaper drones (typical MALEs) in operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Yemen, European countries realized they were completely dependent on American technology in this critically important weaponry segment.

The dependence was legal. Any drone containing American components fell under the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), the US arms export law. This meant Washington could block the sale, modification, or even use of a European drone if it contained even one American component. The Europeans didn't like this, so they began building their big bird without a pilot. As it turned out, this decision wasn't the right one. Remarkable story The Patroller, which hasn't been fully developed in the last ten years. If this isn't Europe's technological impotence in this specific area, then what is?

The French are right, and simple arithmetic helps them here. A modern heavy attack drone is a work of engineering art. It has a turboprop or turbojet engine, a sophisticated onboard radar, secure communications channels, an autonomous navigation system with an AI assistant, and a payload capacity of hundreds of kilograms. From February to March 2026, the United States lost between 11 and 13 MQ-9 Reaper drones. Each Reaper costs between $30 and $32 million. The total cost of losses exceeded $330 million.

The Reaper is the quintessential heavy reconnaissance and attack drone. It has a takeoff weight of approximately 4,7 tons, a wingspan of 20 meters, an endurance of up to 27 hours, and the ability to carry up to 1,7 tons of payload. It's an impressive aircraft—in conditions where the enemy lacks serious air defenses. But Iran isn't Afghanistan or Yemen in the 2010s. Iran has a multi-layered air defense system, including the Russian S-300, as well as its own developments, such as the Khordad-15 and others. The Reaper, with its top speed of approximately 480 km/h and a complete lack of stealth, becomes a target in such airspace.

On March 14, one Reaper was shot down by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps over Bandar Abbas in Hormozgan Province. On March 15, an Italian MQ-9 was destroyed in an Iranian strike on the Ali al-Salem Air Base in Kuwait. Another Reaper was mistakenly shot down by Qatari forces early in the conflict. The list goes on.


The Global Hawk is perhaps the only heavy drone not in danger of being phased out. Aircraft capable of operating beyond the range of air defense systems are still considered successful.

Other attack drones aren't much cheaper. The Turkish Akıncı costs around 15-30 million. The Israeli Hermes 900 starts at 10 million. The Bayraktar TB2 is cheaper, but also unsuitable as a consumable, at 5-7 million.

One heavy drone can produce between 500 and 3000 mass-produced FPV drones. Each one is a flying grenade costing $400–$800, controlled by an operator through virtual reality goggles. A single heavy drone can carry four to six precision-guided munitions. A swarm of five hundred FPV drones equals five hundred precision strikes.

Some might argue that such drones operate exclusively in short-range areas and cannot be compared, but this is not true. Modern Russian and Ukrainian drones are quite suitable for operational and tactical roles. weapons – the operating range can reach hundreds of kilometers or more. There's no need to build expensive ground control stations or airfields. Everything is accomplished through carrier drones (or "mother drones") and relay drones. Drone refueling systems will likely appear soon, supplying long-range UAVs with spare batteries in flight. Theoretically, this isn't impossible.

A cigarette in the dark


Three factors prevent MALE drones from dominating the skies. First, they fly at relatively high altitudes. Drones can't maintain low-level flight for long, making them easy targets for air defenses. Second, drones are large enough to be detected from the ground. Modern air defense systems are designed specifically for this type of targeting. The Buk-M3, S-300, Pantsir-S1, NASAMS, and IRIS-T—all of these systems were designed to intercept objects with a characteristic radar signature of 0,5 to 5 square meters. A heavy drone fits within this range perfectly. The commander of a Russian Army anti-aircraft division describes the drone's behavior very well:

A heavy drone on the screen is like a cigarette in the dark. You see it seconds before it appears in your optics. You fire, and that's it. It doesn't maneuver, it doesn't accelerate, it doesn't dive. It just flies, like a passenger plane, only without passengers and loaded with bombs.

The third reason for the weakness of large drones is their reusability. Once upon a time, this was an advantage – take off, hit the target, and return. A unique precision weapon, it eliminates the need for the proverbial "cast iron" and target shooting. Modern warfare has changed all that. A kamikaze drone with a one-way ticket is tens, if not hundreds, of times cheaper than any attack drone. Bayraktar TB2s require expensive ground infrastructure, which, moreover, is an excellent target for the enemy. As a reminder, the conflict in Ukraine has completely blurred the concept of the front line. Now it's a mixture of the "gray zone," the line of combat contact, and the near rear. Where, in such a configuration, can one hide ground control systems and communications with drones? The question is rhetorical.


The American "Reaper" is used en masse in local skirmishes, but also loses en masse. The world's largest defense budget can afford it, but only in peacetime. The rest cannot.

The real killers of MALE-class attack and reconnaissance drones weren't even air defense systems, but those very kamikazes that occupied Ukraine's skies. This is well understood throughout the world, and France's refusal was entirely justified. It seems that the financial problems of the St. Petersburg-based Kronshtadt are linked precisely to the lack of demand for slow-moving Orion-type attack drones in the Northeast Military District.

The Pentagon isn't lagging behind. Americans have begun deploying the LUCAS (Low-cost Uncrewed Combat Attack System) in the Middle East—a disposable attack drone designed on the principle of "cheap, mass-producible, replaceable." Developed by Arizona-based SpektreWorks based on a reverse-engineered Iranian Shahed-136, LUCAS is a V-shaped glider capable of flying 500 to 800 kilometers, hovering over a target, and attacking. It costs about $35, making it cheaper than many other drones. missiles-interceptors that the enemy will spend on their destruction.



This is LUCAS (Low-cost Uncrewed Combat Attack System). It's almost perfect. A kamikaze with optional Starlink control. It effectively invalidates the entire concept of MALE drones.

Modern conflicts have created a new military paradigm, one in which universality is almost nonexistent. This issue is particularly acute with drones. In the air defense system, even within the tactical zone, drones operate strictly within their own radius: some drones fly at 10-20 km, others at 5-10 km, and still others in the near zone. Even the operators of these drones are virtually non-interchangeable, so crucial is the importance of specialization in modern warfare. Universal strike and reconnaissance systems are too expensive and cumbersome to operate. And this becomes a decisive factor in combat success.
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  1. +5
    April 17 2026 05: 00
    Heavy drones are leaving the skies of modern warfare.
    This is what became clear during the clashes...
    1. -5
      April 17 2026 10: 00
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      This is what became clear during the clashes...

      This had been clear for a long time! But our restless "patriots" kept demanding heavy UAVs. Give them what they wanted, and after a while they moaned, "We told you so." wassat Lavrov Yes
      1. SAG
        +4
        April 17 2026 14: 23
        This had been clear for a long time! But our restless "patriots" kept demanding heavy UAVs.

        Is it just ours? Or is it that overseas "it's different"? How many of these have they produced that make you so angry? How many have they lost?
        In 5-10 years, they'll build other UAVs with low radar cross-sections, radiation sensors, and AI-powered maneuvering systems. If so, please comment on how wrong you were. I don't think so.
    2. +4
      April 17 2026 16: 05
      Nothing was discovered. The author of the article expresses his opinion, and he has the right to do so. But his conclusions are so superficial and primitive that they raise serious doubts. Have the Europeans abandoned two programs? Yes. But the reasons are different. The author is in favor of primitive FPV drones, but they fight near personal missions, and in modern combat there are no personal missions. Simple observations and statistics are converted into conclusions only based on accepted tactics. He does not cover the latter. The author is well-versed in new tactics, information support, and Combat Information Systems. Doubts arise. He saw, read, heard, and then draws superficial conclusions. Some kind of "Makhnovshchina." The Air Defense Forces do not use new tactics. Name at least one new tactic that the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces has implemented? The Air Defense Forces use the tactics of "company strongpoints" and "combined arms combat," but they lack the manpower and resources for the latter. These tactics originate from the USSR. Yes, they've undergone some changes due to the use of FPV drones. But these aren't new tactics, but rather new tactical approaches that were born and implemented "from below." There's nothing "from above"—fight as best you can, with what you have, and we'll watch from above to see how you do it...
      There are some suggestions. The "Positional Area" tactic is very interesting. It's new and modern, and most importantly, feasible. Has anyone heard of it?
      1. +1
        April 17 2026 22: 35
        Quote: BOCTOK 77
        Nothing was discovered. The author of the article expresses his opinion, and has every right to do so. But his conclusions are so superficial and primitive that they raise serious doubts.

        There is a simple fact: in conditions where the enemy has at least some air defense, heavy drones have proven ineffective.
    3. +1
      April 18 2026 13: 59
      Who's fighting whom? Regular armies with pumped-up air defenses—not particularly good, or rather, not good at all (Russia-Ukraine). An army that's superior to another army without air defense? No, they're excellent there (Armenia-Azerbaijan). Dominant armies—outright fantastic (USA-Afghanistan/Iraq).

      Is it good if someone hammers nails, but bad if they hammer nails with an iPhone? Or is the person hammering the nails just insane?
      Heavy drones would certainly be an excellent air defense weapon deep within their own territory if properly adapted. They could also be used to track Bandar-logs or saboteurs in occupied territory. Or patrol the sea. Or retransmit signals from high altitude.

      You could also issue an article - tanks are no longer needed... they are burned by the FPV... But when it comes to dismantling a nine-story building from a distance of the horizon?.... Do you always call in the air force?
  2. +3
    April 17 2026 05: 55
    What about our S-70 Hunter? I haven't heard anything about it. Will it also disappear into oblivion before it even gets a chance to take off?
    1. DO
      0
      April 17 2026 14: 48
      mitrich, in the SVO zone, the Okhotnik S-70 can automate the mass and continuous launch of light glide bombs.
      And in its original niche as a sea-based missile carrier, it could very soon be in high demand.
    2. 0
      April 17 2026 16: 16
      The Russian Armed Forces haven't created the conditions for using the S-70, nor have they created the conditions for using any operational UAV. To use the S-70, a Combat Information System is needed that operates in real time and has multiple, overlapping communication and data transmission channels. "Loyal wingman" is a nonsense invented for "dummies" and to advertise non-existent achievements. Now they've started deploying real-time satellite communications for consumers. It's a small step... We've finally got it...
      1. DO
        +3
        April 17 2026 17: 18
        Quote: BOCTOK 77
        The Russian Armed Forces have not created the conditions for the use of the S-70, as they do for any operational UAVs. To use the S-70, a Combat Information System (CIS) is needed that operates in real time and has multiple, overlapping communication and information transmission channels.
        (…)
        They've just started rolling out real-time satellite communications to consumers. It's such a small step... We've finally made it...

        If the S-70 is used as a launcher of light glide bombs with a built-in booster, the S-70 could initially be completely unguided during flight, flying along a fixed route set at the airfield and releasing the glide bombs at a predetermined point, speed, altitude, and direction. Later, of course, control would be useful for changing the mission mid-flight and for evasive maneuvers against enemy missiles.

        Quote: BOCTOK 77
        "Faithful follower" is a nonsense invented for "dummies" and to advertise non-existent achievements.

        If we literally understand the combination of Su-57 and several S-70 (which have very different flight characteristics) as a single operational unit, then yes.
        But if the Su-57 is a two-seater (or the Su-30 is equipped accordingly), it will be able to control several S-70s from 100 km away, receiving reconnaissance information from the radar of one of the S-70s in the swarm, and give the command to launch a missile attack on enemy ships or aircraft.
        The S-70 can be controlled from a ground-based launcher, via satellites or a mesh network of repeaters.
        1. +1
          April 17 2026 18: 38
          Well, that's exactly what I was talking about. It can also be controlled from a reconnaissance aircraft, a reconnaissance UAV, a ground-based launcher with a high antenna, or a ship... All of this must be coordinated and backed up. Then there won't be any crashes.
          But the 6th-generation aircraft will be a two-seater, and it's time to make a two-seater based on the Su-57, especially since the Indians want...
          If a 5th-generation aircraft is a universal element of the BIS, then a 6th-generation aircraft is the main, or one of the main, elements of the BIS. That's the definition and purpose of 5th- and 6th-generation aircraft. And they're trying to tell us different stories here...
      2. +1
        April 18 2026 00: 50
        We probably haven't created the conditions for manned aviation either; they fly somewhere in the rear, and there are no breakthroughs beyond the ribbon.
      3. 0
        April 18 2026 19: 21
        It seems to me that in today's reality this is a stillborn child.
      4. 0
        April 19 2026 02: 39
        I'm also a skeptic of the leadership. But I'm also skeptical of your comment. It seems to me that you're not being informed about the real state of affairs with communications and combat information systems. Otherwise, you wouldn't be commenting here.
  3. +9
    April 17 2026 07: 48
    The problem is that in 5-8 years, everything will go down a different path or a third. Nobody knows.
    1. +1
      April 17 2026 18: 48
      Everything has long been known. Everything is moving in the same direction, and this direction was determined by the Information Revolution. Only our military leadership didn't notice this revolution, and still doesn't... Everything was described and analyzed back in the 2000s. It's all online, but not in the minds of the generals...
      1. +1
        April 18 2026 00: 52
        Quote: BOCTOK 77
        Only our military leadership did not notice this revolution and still does not notice it...

        I'm sure every second person has an iPhone in their pocket, and everyone has a computer. It's just that our generals don't talk about war, but rather about hardware wars and the drill training of conscripts.
  4. + 10
    April 17 2026 08: 05
    Heavy drones shone in Karabakh against a backdrop of extremely weak air defenses and an enemy unprepared for a new type of warfare. The picture in the Central Military District and Iran was different...
    I still see a viable niche for heavy drones: patrolling areas in peacetime, and in wartime in the absence of enemy air defense, for example, in search of unmanned aerial vehicles over the Black Sea.
    1. 0
      April 17 2026 10: 46
      And also the fight against medium-sized drones: a couple of guns with projectiles with controlled detonation, machine vision and there you have it - a cheap air defense system that can cover thousands of kilometers.
    2. 0
      April 17 2026 17: 36
      rytik32, remember that BEKs are equipped with both MANPADS and FPV drones. Helicopters have already been shot down.
      1. +1
        April 17 2026 21: 58
        Quote: Igor M.
        Helicopters have already been shot down.

        This is why it is better to risk drones than helicopters.
        1. -1
          April 18 2026 03: 18
          Saxahorse, they have different tasks.
      2. -1
        April 17 2026 23: 30
        Quote: Igor M.
        Helicopters have already been shot down

        They shot down both helicopters and planes only because they were firing cannons at point-blank range.
        If a drone operates from a few kilometers away, it won't be easy to detect. Installing an optical-electronic airborne target detection system on the drone is very expensive.
      3. -2
        April 18 2026 23: 06
        Quote: Igor M.
        Helicopters have already been shot down.

        The helicopter, probably, was tried to be shot down by BEK with a MG?
  5. +4
    April 17 2026 08: 18
    Between February and March 2026, the United States lost between 11 and 13 MQ-9 Reaper drones.
    In total, the US lost 24 MQ-9s during the war with Iran, which they admitted to losing. This doesn't include those damaged at bases, which may be beyond repair.
  6. +1
    April 17 2026 08: 39
    Heavy drones will still be in demand on the battlefield. The Pentagon wants to receive intelligence online.
  7. +7
    April 17 2026 08: 40
    The author is trying to stretch the truth. Air defense hasn't negated the importance of medium-class drones, or is the author then suggesting that all aviation be written off? Yes, air defense is a problem, but air defense can be suppressed with the right approach. And it's precisely medium-class drones that should test the extent of air defense suppression by conducting round-the-clock reconnaissance and targeting, not manned aircraft. Then there's always an adversary with weak air defenses, like Hezbollah in Lebanon now, or all the conflicts in Africa. Besides, FPV drones don't fly hundreds of kilometers.
    1. -1
      April 17 2026 12: 14
      Quote: denis.76
      Air defense has not negated the importance of medium-class drones,

      MALE-class UAVs simply didn't have time to "come to their senses"! And analyze: What is bad luck and how to combat it! It won't be easy to shoot down a UAV if it is armed with special "small-sized" anti-missiles designed to counter SAMs and SAMs! (One of the anti-missiles under development is only 1 meter long and weighs 10 kg! "Duty" UAVs (reconnaissance and strike...) can patrol together with "anti-radar" UAVs... "Anti-radar" UAVs can fit into the warheads of "ballistic" systems such as the "Iskander-M", "Iskander-1000", and KN-23, which operate together with heavy UAVs!
    2. +2
      April 17 2026 17: 42
      denis.76, the air force adapted, launching missiles and FABs from UMPK systems without entering the air defense zone. When the air defense is dense, no amount of clever thinking will help. Look, even Iran's not-so-strong air defenses couldn't be suppressed.
      Hezbollah, by the way, has already shot down a decent number of Israeli Hermes drones and some helicopters.
      Let me remind you that they've started installing FPV controls and rigging MANPADS on the Gerani. And they can easily fly up to 1000 km.
  8. +1
    April 17 2026 08: 52
    You just need to have brains.
    Is a heavy UAV vulnerable at close range? Then we return to the aviation and UAV approach.
    Becomes a missile carrier, with minimal brainpower of his own. Someone else, smarter, does the targeting.
    Or as a false target for an expensive ZR. And the light, cheap ZRs are generally far behind, according to the media.

    IMHO they just haven't had time to adapt to reality yet.
  9. +1
    April 17 2026 09: 30
    All these Bayraktars and their ilk were initially effective only against Papuans without any reasonable air defense capabilities. And they will continue to be effective. This doesn't mean they're unnecessary; it means they're needed where and when they can be useful. So it's even strange to read about how people realized that such drones were of little use against modern, even relatively developed, countries.
  10. +3
    April 17 2026 10: 07
    I wouldn't say they have a ton of work: It's just that some people know how to do them, and some don't.
  11. -2
    April 17 2026 10: 58
    In fact, they're not abandoning them, but rather creating new modifications that will hover for very long periods at incredible altitudes and observe in real time, beyond the reach of any tactical MANPADS (unless, of course, it's launched from an interceptor drone). Moreover, these models will be powered by solar energy at such altitudes, further extending their operational life. But most importantly, these high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft will be very, very cheap.

    Of course, no one would waste an air defense missile on such a drone; it would be too expensive and unjustifiable.
    1. -1
      April 17 2026 19: 37
      The UAV's optical-electronic systems are the main cost, and if you want to observe from incredible heights in real time, then the cost of such UAVs will not be cheap. Watch the Global Hawk UAV (140 million).
  12. -1
    April 17 2026 11: 02
    Air defense will help us against all sorts of nasty Lucasians
  13. +7
    April 17 2026 11: 31
    There is a feeling that the financial problems of the St. Petersburg Kronstadt are connected precisely with the lack of demand for low-speed attack drones like the Orion in the Northeast Military District.

    Are we so great with intelligence that we don't need Orions? That's a very strange statement.
    1. 0
      April 18 2026 00: 58
      Well, they wrote here the other day that Orion is expensive, but geranium is cheap. You might as well say that a reconnaissance satellite is expensive, but a Kalashnikov is cheap. fool
  14. + 10
    April 17 2026 11: 45
    This is well understood throughout the world, and France's refusal is entirely justified. There's a feeling that the financial problems of the St. Petersburg-based Kronstadt are linked precisely to the lack of demand for Orion-type low-speed attack drones in the Northeast Military District.

    It seems that after the unnecessary hype about Kronstadt's bankruptcy, someone clearly dissatisfied with it decided to tell the people about the "unnecessary" heavy drones, so that the serfs wouldn't be outraged...
  15. +1
    April 17 2026 11: 45
    The article is interesting, but...don't judge it by the war in Ukraine. The war there is like this because the main striking force of a technologically advanced army—aircraft—is not working. Russia couldn't develop modern aviation (the Su-34 can throw cast iron, but so can the Il-4, Su-7B, or, say, the Il-28), and Ukraine simply doesn't have it. Therefore, drones HAVE REPLACED tactical aviation. The most combat-ready army in the world (Israel) seems to demonstrate that aviation is the main striking force of a normal (not robbed) army!!!
    1. -6
      April 17 2026 13: 17
      So what's wrong with "Russia's inability to develop modern aviation"? Or is Russian not your native language, Vasily? But the "most combat-ready army in the world" (Israel), in your opinion, lost 21 Merkava tanks in one day to Hezbollah (a largely self-taught militia). So it's not all that combat-ready. Bombing civilian areas of Lebanon and the Gaza Strip doesn't require much intelligence or combat capability.
      1. ptt
        +2
        April 17 2026 14: 15
        Quote: Andrey Gladkikh
        So what's wrong with "Russia's inability to develop modern aviation"? Or is Russian not your native language, Vasily? But the "most combat-ready army in the world" (Israel), in your opinion, lost 21 Merkava tanks in one day to Hezbollah (a largely self-taught militia). So it's not all that combat-ready. Bombing civilian areas of Lebanon and the Gaza Strip doesn't require much intelligence or combat capability.

        There's probably no point in comparing the use of tanks and aircraft. They're different environments, different methods of employing and defeating them. In your argument, I side with your opponent. Our air force, due to its meager equipment in modern electronic warfare, reconnaissance, and inadequate planning, is incapable of conducting modern combat operations. The Israeli air force is still at its best. They've flown thousands of sorties, and losses are minimal. That's simply my opinion; politics has nothing to do with it!
        1. +1
          April 17 2026 18: 01
          Please note that 656 anti-aircraft missile systems have already been destroyed in Ukraine. They're just constantly being supplied with new ones. "Berlin will supply 36 more IRIS-T launchers to Ukraine."
          So don't blame our air force. It's thanks to it that the Russian army is advancing. The air force launches thousands of FAB, ODAB, OFZAB, and RKD-500 missiles with UMPK systems, clearing the way for the infantry. And a multitude of missiles of all kinds.


          1. 0
            April 17 2026 19: 31
            The Tu-2 and Er-2 can launch FAB, ODAB, OFZAB, and RKD-500 missiles from a UMPK, clearing the way for infantry. I won't even mention the Su-7, Su-17, MiG-27, and others. The Su-34, Russia's primary strike aircraft, wasn't designed for this purpose. I won't go into detail—you can read about it if you're interested. The RDK-500's flight from a UMPK has nothing to do with the platform launching it.
            1. 0
              April 18 2026 02: 05
              Rooivalk, so what difference does it make what the Ce-34 was designed for? After all, the MiG-31 was designed for a completely different purpose, and then it was redesigned to launch Kinzhal missiles. And, no matter, it's now launching them like a charm. It's striking fear into Ukraine.
              Are you absolutely sure we have the Tu-2, Er-2, Su-7, Su-17, and MiG-27 in service? Are you by any chance confusing them with the Tu-22?
              Are you absolutely sure that the Su-7 could carry the FAB-3000?
              But what is certain is that the aircraft you mentioned could not launch Kh-29, Kh-31P/PD, Kh-35U, Kh-58, Kh-59 missiles.
              So, the Su-34 has found its niche in the Air Defense Forces and provides excellent support for advancing infantry. What else could you ask for from an aircraft?
              1. 0
                April 18 2026 07: 44
                That's sarcasm, my friend!!! The point is, ANY WWII bomber can drop cast iron just as well as the Su-34. The Russian army does NOT have the missiles you listed in commercial quantities!!! There have been isolated instances of launches from the Su-35. Only its radar (not in theory, but in practice) can detect anything on the ground. The Su-34 is inferior even to the Su-24 in many respects. The Su-34's operational radar is an exception, made only on special occasions when the higher-ups are visiting.
                1. 0
                  April 18 2026 09: 36
                  Rooivalk, admit you blurted it out without thinking. The Su-7 simply can't lift 3 tons. I didn't bother checking the others.
                  How could it not be, when they're launched every day? But probably fewer than bombs from the UPMK, simply because bombs are cheaper. And the air defense system is being conducted with the utmost cost reduction.
                  So, what's there to look at with radar? Almost nothing flies over Ukraine. Maybe from Lviv to Poland, but a missile wouldn't have time to reach there. And planes don't fly over the rest of Ukraine; they just hover briefly. And there's no point in tracking that either. By the time you fire, the plane will have landed.
                  Well, the S-400 and the Su-57, which has an even better radar, can also work against aircraft, and the Su-57 is armed with long-range air-to-air missiles.
                  Well, have you seen a "World War II bomber" in the air lately? Let me know when you see one. Someone has to hurl iron at the heads of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, after all. And the best option for that is the Su-34. Our most widely produced aircraft right now. The Tu-22s are few in number, it's a shame. It's even more of a shame about the strategists, who are busy lobbing long-range missiles at Ukraine. And we'll still make some Su-34s, God forbid.
                  1. 0
                    April 19 2026 13: 37
                    This is SARCASM!!!! Do you have a sense of humor? The Su-34 costs $55,000,000. It wasn't designed to hurl iron. The Su-7B easily carried 2,500 kg bombs. There are as many as six WWII-era Er-2s!!! I recommend Googling and reading up on the Su-34. You'll find a lot of interesting information!!!
        2. 0
          April 17 2026 19: 32
          normal air defense doesn't fight against Israel,
          Ukraine's air defense has 43 S-300 battalions, Iran's air defense has 10 launchers, and Hamas and Hezbollah have no air defense at all.
      2. 0
        April 17 2026 15: 04
        So what's wrong with "Russia's inability to develop modern aviation"? Or is Russian not your native language, Vasily? But the "most combat-ready army in the world" (Israel), in your opinion, lost 21 Merkava tanks in one day to Hezbollah (a largely self-taught militia). So it's not all that combat-ready. Bombing civilian areas of Lebanon and the Gaza Strip doesn't require much intelligence or combat capability.
        21 tanks in one day—what sources are you using? The militias are self-taught and fighting under the command of highly professional IRGC officers. It takes a lot of intelligence to fight militants hiding among civilians and launching missiles from there.
        1. 0
          April 17 2026 18: 04
          stone,
          Militarist
          In southern Lebanon, two Merkava tanks were destroyed yesterday by Hezbollah with anti-tank guided missiles at the Al-Bayada and Bint Jbail positions.
          929 Merkava-3/4 tanks were disabled by Gaza-based groups, and 275 Merkava-3/4 tanks were disabled by Hezbollah.
          The total number of losses is 1204 units.
          1. 0
            April 17 2026 22: 04
            Quote: Igor M.
            The total number of losses is 1204 units.

            You haven't read the Iranian news yet! They've already sunk nearly a hundred aircraft carriers! wassat
            1. 0
              April 18 2026 03: 20
              Saxahorse, I actually monitored three Iranian Telegram channels regularly. They didn't write anything like that. Hezbollah Telegram, for example, did occasionally overdo it. So I only watched it for a short time.
              1. 0
                April 18 2026 22: 31
                Quote: Igor M.
                Well, Hezbollah's TG, yes, he did go overboard at times.

                In your comment about thousands of tanks, you're actually quoting Hezbollah. I don't trust them one bit. Even if they attach drone footage, it's often unclear whether they actually hit the target or not.

                I haven't been monitoring Iranian channels much, but I've come across a few links to cartoons that are patently rubbish. It's hard to tell which channel is official and where their fans are fantasizing right now. Judging by the confusing information coming from our official media, I'm not the only one confused.
                1. 0
                  April 19 2026 04: 45
                  Saxahorse, TG channel Militarist has no connection to Hezbollah.
                  But here is a reprint from Hezbollah:


                  beauties_of_Iranii is one of the Iranian channels in Russian.
    2. 0
      April 17 2026 17: 50
      Rooivalk, Israel actually has plenty of attack and reconnaissance drones. Iran shot down over 100 of them. And Hezbollah took down about 20 of them.
      But their "unrobbed" army completely ignored the experience of the Central Military District and failed to protect its tanks and armored personnel carriers from drones. Or at least they tried to, but the money was stolen. And Hezbollah torched their armored vehicles en masse.
      1. 0
        April 17 2026 19: 33
        I'm talking about the round one, you're talking about the green one. In urban combat, protecting armored vehicles is a real challenge...
    3. -1
      April 17 2026 19: 26
      The Su-34 can throw a FAB with an UMPK, but the Il-28 and Su-7 can't do that.

      The Israeli army itself has been unable to defeat Hamas for two years and is fighting for a forester's toilet, and in close combat on October 7, an IDF soldier ran from a dozen Hamas soldiers with wet pants.
      1. 0
        April 17 2026 19: 37
        Read about MPC... ordinary cast iron with crudely made metal trusses and a price tag far above reasonable!!!
        1. -1
          April 17 2026 19: 55
          I'm still waiting for a regular cast iron one with wings with a price tag that's way above reasonable.
          and what does cost have to do with it if such bombs are used en masse?
  16. +5
    April 17 2026 12: 40

    As Trapper7 writes
    All these Bayraktars and others like them were initially effective only against the Papuans without any sensible air defense systems.

    The Ukrainian Lyuty attack UAV can also be classified as a MALE. As we can see, the Russian Aerospace Forces' air defenses, with their S-300/400 and MiG-31, are unable to ensure their absolute interception over Russian territory.
    So, different types of drones are needed, and different types of drones are important. The main thing is to use them wisely.
    1. 0
      April 17 2026 18: 11
      The Cympak "Lyuty" UAV doesn't require visibility, like reconnaissance and attack UAVs, so they fly low—up to 50 meters. At this altitude, they can only be detected at point-blank range.
      Remember that Patriot air defense systems, Korean and even Chinese systems, fighter jets, and helicopters were of no use against the Iranian Shaheeds. They still managed to reach their target.
      1. DO
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        April 17 2026 19: 36
        Quote: Igor M.
        The Lyuty UAV doesn't require visibility, unlike reconnaissance and attack UAVs, so it flies low—up to 50 meters. At this altitude, it can only be detected at point-blank range.

        Why "point blank?" An AWACS aircraft, an AWACS UAV (Globalhawk), or an AWACS balloon (tethered, like the Russian Puma) would detect them from over a hundred kilometers away.
        1. 0
          April 18 2026 02: 29
          Firstly, it's unclear how AWACS operates against low-flying targets. Are there any examples? There's also the reflection of radio waves off the terrain.
          Secondly, UAVs are often made of radio-transparent materials like plywood and foam, meaning their RCS is very low. So, we come back to the question: has anyone ever tried to detect UAVs made of junk and scrap metal with AWACS?
          Thirdly, isn't it a shame to lose the balloon plane? It's essentially a huge target,
          Which, not only can the drones themselves visit, but also launch MANPADS at them. Our Gerankas are already being equipped with FPV controls and air-to-air missiles. I don't think the Ukrainians are any dumber than us.
          1. DO
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            April 29 2026 13: 00
            Quote: Igor M.
            не известно, как ДРЛО работает по низколетящим целям. Есть примеры? Там же идет переотражение радиоволн от рельефа местности

            Во-первых, известно (да и понятно из здравого смысла), что по низколетящие цели гораздо эффективнее обнаруживаются с воздуха, чем с земли.
            Во-вторых, для выделения движущихся воздушных целей на фоне неподвижных или малоподвижных наземных объектов, в радиолокации используется эффект Допплера.

            Quote: Igor M.
            а что, самолет-аэростат совсем не жалко? Это же по факту огромная мишень,
            на которую, как сами БПЛА могут навестить, так и запустить по ним ПЗРК

            Так и наземные ЗРК тоже не маленькие, и тоже являются целями для противника.
            Понятное дело, что вблизи ЛБС радиолокационная разведка с воздуха должна вестись с РЛС истребителей, которые имеют возможность в случае ракетной атаки на них выключить радар, маневрировать, снижаться и уходить из зоны поражения. Здесь пилотируемый истребитель-разведчик в перспективе может быть заменен БПЛА С-70, управляемым удаленно, например, с Су-30, или через ретрансляторы с земли.
            А привязные аэростаты и тяжелые барражирующие БПЛА (аналоги глобалхоков) с бортовыми радарами, должны применяться на безопасном удалении от ЛБС, с тем расчетом чтобы при обнаружении вражеских дронов их успел прикрыть истребитель. В составе объектовой ПВО - с эшелонированной защитой наземными средствами поражения или зенитными дронами. А также ДРЛО-аэростаты и тяжелые БПЛА должны применяться в приграничье где нет военных действий (примеры - создание рубежа радиолокационного поля на границе с Казахстаном, вдоль Севморпути, на ДВ).
    2. -1
      April 17 2026 19: 27
      Out of 300, only 10 break through, which makes these drones quite expensive.
  17. DO
    -1
    April 17 2026 14: 40
    There is a feeling that the financial problems of the St. Petersburg Kronstadt are connected precisely with the lack of demand for low-speed attack drones like the Orion in the Northeast Military District.

    It's clear that a heavy drone has no place within the enemy air defense zone. This became clear early in the Second World War, with the destruction of Bayraktars by Russian air defense systems.
    However, for example, the globalhawks, which no one shot down, indirectly caused Russia many losses by effectively obtaining intelligence data that was then supplied to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    Today, the number of Western long-range drones targeting infrastructure deep in the Russian rear is growing exponentially. They fly over Russia at extreme range, taking advantage of the fragmented nature of the Russian radar field and its intended use for detecting high-flying targets. Detecting long-range drones and cruise missiles with ground-based radars is ineffective, primarily due to their low altitude. To increase the probability of detecting Western long-range drones, radars must be raised to a significant altitude, up to several kilometers. Russia has only a few A-50 aircraft, and reconnaissance using fighter jets' onboard radars is insufficient, both in number and in terms of engine life. This can be accomplished using tethered balloons (point-defense air defense), or by integrating the radar into a heavy loitering drone (similar to the Global Hawk, perhaps a very distant future). And this must be done quickly, lest the infrastructure be left untouched. How? For example, organize serial production of the Sirius/Inohodets UAVs, integrating into them the serial Belka AESA radar, which is currently installed on the Su-57.
    1. 0
      April 17 2026 14: 55
      At the beginning of the SVO, it was the Bayraktars that harassed the Russian Armed Forces' columns until they were calmed down, but they caused enough damage to be taken seriously.
      1. DO
        -1
        April 17 2026 16: 47
        At the beginning of the Central Military District, our leadership generally expected an easy ride with unprotected columns, as if the Ukrainians would surrender on their own. But the Americans and the rest of the West didn't let the Ukrainians surrender.
        Having suffered losses from the Bayraktars at the very beginning of the SVO, our generals remembered about the air defense and calmed down the Bayraktars so that they were no longer remembered in the SVO zone.
        1. 0
          April 17 2026 18: 17
          DO, in fact, the columns were protected by air defense, in particular, TORs.
          Ukraine surrendered and the Istanbul Peace Accords were agreed upon.
          1. DO
            -1
            April 17 2026 19: 23
            Quote: Igor M.
            Ukraine surrendered and the Istanbul Peace Accords were agreed upon.

            Yes, sir, you are a joker, but it is inappropriate to laugh here.
            If "Ukraine has surrendered," then who is our army fighting in Ukraine today?
            1. 0
              April 18 2026 01: 52
              DO, you simply haven't been following the events. The Istanbul Peace Accords? No, you haven't heard. Keep up the stupidity.
              "Quitting smoking is very easy. I've quit many times myself." (c) The same goes for surrender. You can surrender, wait until the troops are withdrawn from the country, and then attack yourself.
          2. 0
            April 17 2026 20: 11
            Quote: Igor M.
            DO, in fact, the columns were protected by air defense, in particular, TORs.
            Ukraine surrendered and the Istanbul Peace Accords were agreed upon.

            Judging by the videos posted by the Ukrainians at the time, these were columns containing both Tor and Buka missiles, but in a stowed position. They simply weren't turned on.
            1. 0
              April 18 2026 02: 40
              Cympak, yes, that's right, there were also Buki.
              First, deploying Tor takes 3 minutes:
              The deployment time of the Tor anti-aircraft missile system from the traveling position to the combat position is 3 minutes.

              Secondly, in the videos that I watched at the time, the Thors were moving with a full and rotating locator.
      2. 0
        April 17 2026 18: 19
        Arigin, I think these are just legends. Because our troop columns were accompanied by air defense systems, like TOR missiles, which are capable of firing while on the move.
      3. 0
        April 17 2026 19: 29
        "Nightmare" is an exaggeration, but there was damage, then the bayraktars ran out,
    2. -1
      April 17 2026 18: 14
      DO, actually, Ukrainian long-range UAVs are more of a psychological and PR weapon. They've been launched against us for four years now and haven't caused any significant infrastructure losses yet. They do cause damage, yes, but the damage is quickly repaired.
      1. DO
        0
        April 17 2026 19: 20
        Quote: Igor M.
        They have been launched for us for 4 years now and have not yet led to any major infrastructure losses.

        Firstly, the loss of infrastructure – oil storage facilities, serious damage to refineries, factories, and the world’s largest Luga port – these are, unfortunately, faits accomplis.
        Secondly, Western factories are rapidly increasing drone deliveries to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And quantity tends to lead to quality.
        Thirdly, today Western countries no longer hide the fact that they are making their territory available for attacks on Russia, happily wiping their feet on the UN Charter and rejoicing at the concerns of our diplomats.
        So, verbally pelting the West with hats while denying one's own losses won't work. Like it or not, a great deal will have to be done to force the enemy to peace.
        1. 0
          April 18 2026 01: 49
          DO, you believe the rumors more, the CIPSO spreads them, and you pick up on them.
          They say the port of Ust-Luga shipped more oil in March-January than the previous year. Damage there was minimal—drums of industrial oil were burning.
          Between March 8 and April 5, Russia exported an average of 3,35 million barrels of oil per day—the highest level since June 2022.

          Only one oil refinery in Novoshakhtinsk suffered serious damage, but it was caused by missiles, not drones. All the others that were targeted by drones quickly resumed operation.
          Oil storage facilities—yes, they're burning. But don't we have enough oil in the country? To tear our shirts and scream that everything's lost.
          The same thing happened with the factories. Only the one hit by the missiles suffered significant damage.
          They are not increasing it yet, they are just getting ready.
          Something's really pissing you off. On the contrary, EU countries claim nothing was flown through them.
          As of April 17, 2026, the European Commission stated that it had no evidence of the use of Ukrainian Armed Forces UAVs in the skies over the Baltic countries and Finland.

          Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania previously claimed that they did not give Ukraine permission to use their territories and airspace for drone attacks against targets in Russia.

          Well, Ukraine is ready to make peace. But it wants a border along the LBS, which doesn't suit us.
          1. DO
            +1
            April 18 2026 12: 54
            Igor M., listening to you, it sounds like there's no such thing as a military defense, because "Ukraine has surrendered." And nothing flies to Russia through Estonia and Finland (or rather, from their territories) every day. And why are Russian volunteers going to Ukraine to fight under contract? Why should people work for their own military-industrial complex, tightening their belts? And what enemy drones are these? Well, a couple of barrels of "technical oil" burned up for some reason (is there even drinking oil? :))). Why is mobile internet shut down every day? Why all this military censorship, blocking the enemy's Telegram and numerous VPNs?
            It seems the officials who sabotaged the construction of fortifications in the Kursk region also thought along your lines, and who used the funds allocated for this construction for far greater benefit (for themselves, of course). Regarding the Ukrainian Armed Forces' invasion of the Kursk region and the mass murders and abductions of Russian civilians into the territory of the Ukrainian Reich, you will, of course, claim here that none of this happened.
            Judging by your posts, I conclude that you're not writing from Russia, and probably not even from Ukraine (since the Center for Social and Political Studies doesn't work that clumsily), but from the American continent. You're probably so worried about your former compatriots that you can't eat. Or more likely, you're simply moonlighting for the State Department.
            That's it, I don't want to waste any more time on you.
            Be healthy.
            1. -1
              April 19 2026 04: 33
              Didn't Ukraine agree to peace agreements three times? Minsk I, Minsk II, and Istanbul.
              I'm saying that something might fly, and something might not. We need evidence, proof, confirmation. Not empty chatter.
              And who's tightening their belts? Knock on wood, our standard of living has barely dropped. On the contrary, we now have the highest percentage of people satisfied with their lives.
              In July 2025, respondents' satisfaction with their lives reached their highest level since 1993. The proportion of respondents who are satisfied with their lives rose to 57%. The proportion of respondents who are dissatisfied with their lives is at an all-time low—11%. Another third of respondents are somewhat satisfied with their lives and somewhat dissatisfied with them.

              They didn't build fortifications in the Kursk region. They built them along the border. And they existed—a minefield, dragon's teeth, and barbed wire.
              Why do you think so? Did I ever deny the obvious? But the fact is that this invasion was used to the advantage of the North Caucasus Military District. And how many Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers were killed in the Kursk region itself? Around 70.
              Wrong conclusion. I live in Moscow, my favorite city in the world.
              So, have I ever lied? I understand, it's easier for you to resort to personal attacks and insults because you can't really respond to anything substantive. Drain counted.
  18. 0
    April 18 2026 06: 14
    "...If you don't take into account light and medium drones..."

    Then it is unclear why tanks do not break through the enemy's defenses in a wedge, why motorized rifle regiments do not sweep the enemy's infantry out of populated areas in a matter of days, why helicopter detachments do not neutralize individual enemy strongholds.
  19. 0
    April 18 2026 06: 28
    Quote: Igor M.
    DO, you believe the rumors more, the CIPSO spreads them, and you pick up on them.
    They say the port of Ust-Luga shipped more oil in March-January than the previous year. Damage there was minimal—drums of industrial oil were burning.
    Between March 8 and April 5, Russia exported an average of 3,35 million barrels of oil per day—the highest level since June 2022.

    Only one oil refinery in Novoshakhtinsk suffered serious damage, but it was caused by missiles, not drones. All the others that were targeted by drones quickly resumed operation.
    Oil storage facilities—yes, they're burning. But don't we have enough oil in the country? To tear our shirts and scream that everything's lost.
    The same thing happened with the factories. Only the one hit by the missiles suffered significant damage.
    They are not increasing it yet, they are just getting ready.
    Something's really pissing you off. On the contrary, EU countries claim nothing was flown through them.
    As of April 17, 2026, the European Commission stated that it had no evidence of the use of Ukrainian Armed Forces UAVs in the skies over the Baltic countries and Finland.

    Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania previously claimed that they did not give Ukraine permission to use their territories and airspace for drone attacks against targets in Russia.

    Well, Ukraine is ready to make peace. But it wants a border along the LBS, which doesn't suit us.


    "They're reporting that the port in Ust-Luga shipped more oil in March-January than the year before. The damage there was minimal—it was just barrels of industrial oil that burned."

    You should run for the State Duma.
    "Why did they raise the retirement age?!
    To give everyone the opportunity to legally continue doing what they love: building houses, mining coal, smelting metal, healing people, raising children, representing your interests in the Duma and the Government.
    So a bricklayer at 65, like a miner, is more of a burden than a record.
    Why do you keep talking about work and work?! We in the deputy corps have so much energy that we can still be very useful even at 70.
    1. -1
      April 18 2026 08: 38
      Male miners can retire at 50 years of age, and women at 45 years of age, provided they have a certain amount of experience in underground work and a general insurance record.

      Why are you writing slogans? Write a rebuttal to the commentator's words.
      The commentator wrote correctly about Ust-Luga
  20. +1
    April 18 2026 10: 32
    Brad.
    Another thing is that the drone of the future is simply an airplane (new, or a remake of an old one) from which the pilots who are no longer needed have been dug out.
    And the car will throw the UPAB and hammer with a nose-up attitude.
    The problem of overloads will be solved at once (humans are fragile).
  21. 0
    April 18 2026 10: 34
    with optional control via Starlink.

    How gracefully the whole world has been tricked again into "pay us for the defense order."
    Better than with GPS.
  22. 0
    April 18 2026 15: 13
    All this is true, but what can replace them?
    It's clear that large strike drones will develop along the same path as manned fighters and bombers. Speeds shouldn't be as sluggish as those of the Bayraktar, but rather comparable to those of modern fighters, which requires appropriate engines. Stealth, range, fuel, radars, combat load, and so on must be a factor. Everything is the same as in manned aircraft, but such aircraft will still be cheaper because there's no need to provide life support for the pilot. The new tactics of using them in a group with a lead manned aircraft again harks back to the tactics of similar formations during WWII.
    In general, it’s clear with strike aircraft, but what about reconnaissance aircraft? After all, drones like the Global Hawk are out of reach for the time being. And they’re not that out of reach. Reconnaissance aircraft need silence and time; God himself ordered them to look out slowly and record every detail.
    In peacetime and in neutral waters, such aircraft and drones can hang in the sky for hours without fear of being shot down by air defenses, but when there is a war, such devices become an easy target for air defenses.
    Here, of course, we need to develop the satellite constellation and work on systems that provide reconnaissance. Such systems must operate more efficiently.
    Well, overall, yes. One cannot but agree with the author. Current large drones, both attack and reconnaissance, are already outdated.
    Not because they don't do their job, but because they don't last as long as devices of that price should.
    Simply put, the price here is clearly higher than the quality.
  23. 0
    April 19 2026 16: 50
    Well, why not? Natural selection of drones is underway...