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Russia can strengthen base in Armenia with Iskander-M missiles and Tornado systems

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The 102 military base of Russia in Gyumri (Armenia) began to seriously re-equip. A source in the Russian armed forces told REGNUM that the latest heavy equipment began to arrive at the base’s armament, and soon serious missile weapons would arrive, which have no analogues in the region. "It is very likely that we are talking about the operational-tactical missile system (OTRK) Iskander-M and the Tornado multiple launch rocket system," said a source. It is worth noting that the Iskander-M OTRK can deliver high-precision strikes against targets at a distance of up to 500 km, and due to the characteristics of the rocket’s flight trajectory, it is not possible to knock it down with any of the existing or developed missile defense systems.


Recall the other day edition "Weapon Of Russia "reported that new mobile command and control centers for anti-aircraft missile units arrived at the Russian military base deployed in Armenia. The PUU equipment includes advanced automatic data transmission system, internal and external communications, and GLONASS receivers to target terrain, night vision devices, radiation and chemical reconnaissance. The capabilities of the new complexes make it possible to detect more than 100 air targets in a radius of up to 100 km and at the same time wait more than 10 of them. Also, during the summer period of training the personnel of mechanized infantry, reconnaissance, artillery and other units of the military base for the first time in the course of combat training in practice using modern navigators "Perun", "Grotto" and "Breeze".
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  1. fortunophile
    fortunophile 16 May 2013 10: 38 New
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    I sympathize with Azerbaijan, first the oil pipeline, and now also the Iskanders with the Tornado. In my opinion, a worthy answer to Gabala and "tricks" with Israel and Turkey.
    I think that in the light of this news, the war for Karabakh will be postponed indefinitely, no matter how much Azeri "hawks" want to unleash it. The region is already restless, and then the neighbors are trying hard to throw matches lit. hi
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 16 May 2013 10: 42 New
      35
      It is necessary, it is necessary to threaten the Turks with a finger. They played in the region ...
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 16 May 2013 10: 55 New
        21
        Quote: vadimus
        It is necessary, it is necessary to threaten the Turks with a finger

        Quote: fortuneophile
        Compassion for Azerbaijan

        The missiles are being deployed taking into account the possible instability in Turkey, if they venture into an adventure with Syria, and later with Iran ... and here is by no means hostile Azerbaijan. Little did the Karabakh war last? The Armenians and Azerbaijanis will somehow settle the matter without shooting, and their Armed Forces are not in a position to shoot Iskanders, but their neighbors are another matter, especially given the growth of their fleet in the Black Sea ... as an asymmetric response.
      2. Bykov.
        Bykov. 16 May 2013 11: 12 New
        11
        Quote: vadimus
        ... It is necessary, it is necessary to threaten the Turks with a finger. They played in the region ...

        From the village we will threaten ... Turk.
      3. astra
        astra 16 May 2013 11: 27 New
        +7
        Quote: vadimus
        It is necessary, it is necessary to threaten the Turks with a finger. They played in the region ...

        It would be very good to strengthen our base in Tartus with iskanders)))
    2. kNow
      kNow 16 May 2013 10: 50 New
      23
      Quote: fortuneophile
      Compassion for Azerbaijan

      I sympathize with Russia if it is unable to influence Azerbaijan in a different way. But I think you are wrong - "Tornado" and "Iskander" are not intended for us, for Russia there are more important goals ... The Middle East is burning ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 05 New
        26
        Quote: kNow
        I sympathize with Russia if it is not able to influence Azerbaijan in a different way

        And what do we sympathize with, Azerbaijan is not a rival to Russia, but it is very necessary to cool Aliyev’s hot head with his teachings near NK.
        As for the influence itself, it is there, it’s just that Russia has a different policy, unlike the USA and Europe. Blackmail, sanctions, regime change is not our way hi
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 24 New
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: kNow
          I sympathize with Russia if it is not able to influence Azerbaijan in a different way

          And what do we sympathize with, Azerbaijan is not a rival to Russia, but it is very necessary to cool Aliyev’s hot head with his teachings near NK.
          As for the influence itself, it is there, it’s just that Russia has a different policy, unlike the USA and Europe. Blackmail, sanctions, regime change is not our way hi

          Haha, yes the guidance of the Iskanders this is the way)))
          Although I think they will not appear there, and if they do not appear against Azerbaijan, Russia borders on Azerbaijan, and in the North Caucasus there are a lot of cool gadgets.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 26 New
            13
            Quote: Yeraz
            Haha, yes the guidance of the Iskanders this is the way))

            What haha, how to bring down such a rocket? Now haha, and then not haha ​​at all.
            Quote: Yeraz
            The North Caucasus has a lot of cool gadgets.

            Well, and who is so cool there?
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 37 New
              +8
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Yeraz
              Haha, yes the guidance of the Iskanders this is the way))

              What haha, how to bring down such a rocket? Now haha, and then not haha ​​at all.
              Quote: Yeraz
              The North Caucasus has a lot of cool gadgets.

              Well, and who is so cool there?

              Speaking about cool bells and whistles, I meant Russian troops with cool bells and whistles coming there lately, how to scare Azerbaijan by pulling all this to Armenia it makes no sense, it’s all at the Azerbaijani border, with more modern aviation and artillery. it’s green specifically to the Southern District. Therefore, if these Iskanders appear, it’s certainly not because of Azerbaijan.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 12: 01 New
                10
                Quote: Yeraz
                Therefore, if these Iskanders appear, it’s certainly not because of Azerbaijan.

                Well, maybe a kind of hello to Alkaida's ally Erdogan.
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 16 May 2013 12: 09 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  Therefore, if these Iskanders appear, it’s certainly not because of Azerbaijan.

                  Well, maybe a kind of hello to Alkaida's ally Erdogan.

                  Yes, this is a specific salamik to Erdogan, and I think not only him. By the way, it turns out a strange thing, because the Patriots were more in Turkey because of the mortar bombardment by Syria it was initially funny, but now if the Iskanders appear, the validity of finding the Patriots will be tough argued, although as I know it seems Patriots cannot resist Iskander.
                  1. krokodil25
                    krokodil25 16 May 2013 12: 15 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    I, as I know, like Patriots cannot resist Iskander.

                    Iskander, neither now, nor in the near future will be able to withstand any system at all!
          2. xetai9977
            xetai9977 16 May 2013 12: 01 New
            +1
            Azerbaijan does not need sympathy. As for the oil pipeline, this was by no means a surprise. Many people thought that this route has not been working for a long time. And as for the technique, most likely it is a GESTURE. But Russia is unlikely to intervene if the war is waged within the borders of Azerbaijan. And it is naive to think that 1-2 complexes will affect the outcome of the war. Actually, it would be better for our peoples if they were engaged in mutually beneficial cooperation. And the way of blackmail and threats against the country and the people who are NOT unfriendly towards Russia, and whose only "fault" is that they want to return 20% of their territory, which ALL COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD, INCLUDING RUSSIA, recognize Azerbaijan. How long will Russia hold out? Roosevelt's lines (We know that your neighbors are n ... and, but these are our n ... and), and how much will benefit from this, it is up to Russia to decide. But nevertheless, it is believed that common sense will prevail.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 10 New
              +4
              And it’s naive to think that 1-2 complexes will affect the outcome of the war

              about identity, when a 100% defeat of any point of the country hangs with a domocloc sword, this is not for you
              . How long will Russia stay on the lines of T. Roosevelt (We know that your neighbors are n .... and, but these are our n ... and), and how much will benefit from this, it is up to Russia to decide. But still I believe, that common sense will triumph.

              From will triumph when Azerbaijan is a general governorship. Although we don’t need this, you will no longer have oil. Then why do you need us?
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 16 May 2013 12: 19 New
                0
                Quote: leon-iv
                why do you need us?

                We do not see the point of life in being someone needed, except for ourselves.
                Quote: leon-iv
                will triumph when Azerbaijan will be a general governorship.

                Threats, threats .... I'm sorry to hear the vocabulary of the colonial times. Wake up, in the courtyard of the 21st century!
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 41 New
                  +3
                  We do not see the point of life in being someone needed, except for ourselves.

                  Paraphrase what resource do you have which we need?
                  I'm sorry to hear the vocabulary of colonial times.

                  And now the attention that we have been seeing for half a century
                  This is a division of the colonies in a new way. Will you deny it?
                  1. Yeraz
                    Yeraz 16 May 2013 12: 55 New
                    +2
                    Quote: leon-iv
                    We do not see the point of life in being someone needed, except for ourselves.

                    Paraphrase what resource do you have which we need?
                    I'm sorry to hear the vocabulary of colonial times.

                    And now the attention that we have been seeing for half a century
                    This is a division of the colonies in a new way. Will you deny it?

                    I already wrote above, read there. Well, and secondly, Armenia finally has nothing and it absorbs the resources of the Russian Federation, but for some reason Russia needs it.
                    1. leon-iv
                      leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 57 New
                      +4
                      but for some reason Russia needs it.

                      why do you need a gopnik turned on?
                      And why does Asashai need Georgia?
          3. xetai9977
            xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 40 New
            +2
            In fact, the article says MAY appear ... REGNUM is not an agency that can be trusted. Very often wishful thinking. Speaking seriously, "Iskander" is a component of tactical nuclear weapons. And in this region there are no goals for them in my opinion.
      2. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 16 May 2013 11: 15 New
        11
        Quote: kNow
        I sympathize with Russia if it is not able to influence Azerbaijan in a different way.


        Jerboa sympathizes with the lion? Thanks for sure. hi
        1. kNow
          kNow 16 May 2013 11: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Geisenberg
          Thanks for sure

          Please

          Quote: Geisenberg
          Jerboa sympathizes with the lion

          if the lion is not able to scare him wink
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 42 New
            19
            Quote: kNow
            if the lion is not able to scare him

            But the lion doesn’t scare anyone at all, lives quietly and does not touch anyone. The jerboas are watching, but the lion does not growl and begins to greet, and then the lion oops and there is no jerbo belay The jerboas in the loose and with the whole crowd sting at the jackals, and the jackals with the whole flock all over the world are yelling at the lion, but they can do nothing with the lion. Because they remember that the jackal was raked from the lion more than once wink
            1. kNow
              kNow 16 May 2013 13: 44 New
              +4
              or maybe it’s better - when everyone is busy with their own affairs - large - large, small - small? and no one does any tricks on anyone
          2. Manager
            Manager 16 May 2013 11: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: kNow
            if the lion is not able to scare him

            Leo is not scary, please note. He silently does what he needs. It cleans up the pride, makes lion cubs and eats other animals.
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 16 May 2013 12: 23 New
              0
              Well, let him go about his business in the savannah, and not tell others how to live and what to do at home.
              1. Manager
                Manager 16 May 2013 12: 35 New
                +2
                Quote: xetai9977
                Well, let him go about his business in the savannah, and not tell others how to live and what to do at home.


                So let your meerkats then sit on holes in their territory in silence, and do not climb into the savannah with tomatoes.
                1. xetai9977
                  xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 01 New
                  0
                  Demand forms supply. So there is a need for tomatoes.
                  1. Manager
                    Manager 16 May 2013 13: 07 New
                    +2
                    Quote: xetai9977
                    Demand forms supply. So there is a need for tomatoes.

                    Then do not be offended that merchants eat with tomatoes.
                    1. xetai9977
                      xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 27 New
                      +2
                      Cannibals appear? those are available in Syria, but in other places ... Thank you for warning.
                      1. Manager
                        Manager 16 May 2013 13: 43 New
                        -1
                        Quote: xetai9977
                        Cannibals appear? those are available in Syria, but in other places ... Thank you for warning.

                        Run until it's too late! Straight all together! Throw tomatoes and run, or else eat!
                      2. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 55 New
                        +3
                        But I’m not going to run. I’m quietly sitting in Baku. There are no cannibals))))
                      3. Manager
                        Manager 16 May 2013 14: 04 New
                        +3
                        Quote: xetai9977
                        But I’m not going to run. I’m quietly sitting in Baku. There are no cannibals))))

                        HERE and I am Sitting in Russia! Here we are the right people! You can relax, take a walk to visit each other, observing the rules and respect of the owners, it is possible! And the rest is good at home!
                      4. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 16 May 2013 14: 27 New
                        0
                        Naturally!!! Better yet, he puts things in order at home and doesn’t tell his neighbor how he will get settled. You need to respect yourself and respect your neighbor. So it will be better for everyone!
    3. maxon106
      maxon106 16 May 2013 13: 17 New
      +5
      And if you send all migrants to your homeland, how do you like this option ??
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 29 New
        +3
        Let's. Not the first time ...
        1. Manager
          Manager 16 May 2013 13: 45 New
          +2
          Quote: xetai9977
          Let's. Not the first time ...

          Oh, if your words of consent would be taken seriously yes at the top ....
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 May 2013 13: 58 New
        0
        Quote: maxon106
        And if you send all migrants to your homeland, how do you like this option ??

        But first, look at the structure of the economy of Azerbaijan, where is it formed, the share of remittances, the number of migrants with Azerbaijani passports, because not every dark-skinned person is a citizen of Azerbaijan, and then after reading all this, take your stereotypes about Azerbaijan, remember that we are not Armenia, Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan whose economies are formed due to dehydrated transfers from Russia and you will be more informed about Azerbaijan and you will understand those with migrants with some, but not Azerbaijan.
        How many have asked before, write something first find out more, and not on stereotypes. But it turns out ridiculous. As in the series when some Russians really think that 75 million Turkey lives off not the richest 2–3 million. tourists from Russia.
        1. Manager
          Manager 16 May 2013 14: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: Yeraz
          that 75 million Turkey lives off not the richest 2-3 million tourists from Russia.


          Of course not. Lives simply at the expense of tourists.
          2-3 million tourists from Russia.
          1-1,5 million tourists from Bulorussia
          1-2 million tourists from Ukraine.

          Well, the rest of the country is another 10 million ....
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 16 May 2013 14: 37 New
            +3
            Contrary to the prevailing stereotype of Turkey as a country of tourism and trade, they not only preserved the real sector of the economy, but also actively developed the chemical, pharmaceutical, energy, metallurgy, shipbuilding, automotive and household goods industries. The share of industry in the country's economy is about 28% (yes, of course, manufacturing, including construction, is 84%). The authorities have relied on those industries that are aimed at export, and, given the 70 millionth, constantly growing population, on domestic consumption.

            35.000.000 tourists visit Turkey every year
  • Manager
    Manager 16 May 2013 11: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: kNow
    But I think you are wrong - "Tornado" and "Iskander" are not intended for us, for Russia there are more important goals ... The Middle East is burning ...


    Yes, and the hedgehog is clear that they are not there to influence Azerbaijan. This is a hint and a hint to the Turks, so to speak.
  • leon-iv
    leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 05 New
    +1
    The Middle East is on fire ...

    for BV to calibrate on NK with turquoise.
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim 16 May 2013 10: 52 New
    +6
    Quote: fortuneophile
    no matter how the Azerbaijani "hawks" would like to untie it

    Americans have 50% desire here, do not forget about them.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 00 New
    +4
    Quote: fortuneophile
    The region is already troubled, and here the neighbors are trying hard to throw matches, which are lit, to throw.


    I’m watching you have flags constantly changing one or the other, the impression is that you are sitting on a forum, travel around the world, or maybe it’s an anonymizer ?! laughing
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: Apollon
      I’m watching you have flags constantly changing one then the other, the impression is that you are sitting on a forum, travel around the world

      Hi Apollo! It’s just that a person was previously banned, and that’s running from country to country. There isn’t enough thirst to change the company’s constant ayp to dynamics in the company laughing And in general, it looks like a spender style wink
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 18 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Apollo! It’s just that a person was previously banned, and that’s running from country to country. There isn’t enough thirst to change the company’s constant ayp to dynamics in the company


        Good afternoon, Alexander! hi I don’t understand one thing. Why do some visitors react so nervously ?! winked (comment fortunophile Today, 11: 09) had to explain what, how and why (Apollon Today, 11: 16)
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 23 New
          +6
          Quote: fortuneophile
          I know that you are Azerbaijani

          He also knew wink
          Quote: Apollon
          I had to explain what, how and why

          Yes, I saw and already almost 100% sure who such a fortunophile laughing Thinks if decrypted then it will be banned laughing
        2. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 17 May 2013 14: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Apollon
          Good afternoon, Alexander! I don’t understand one thing. Why do some visitors react so nervously ?! (comment fortunophile Today, 11: 09) had to explain what, how and why (Apollon Today, 11: 16)

          Be careful, Mr. MODERATOR ... Behave like an elephant in a china shop. If the visitor's person is suspicious of you, send a message "in a personal". Believe me, Role of the censor-reactionary combined with the post of moderator is not the best way. hi
    2. fortunophile
      fortunophile 16 May 2013 11: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Apollon
      I’m watching you have flags constantly changing one then the other

      Does this have anything to do with the topic under discussion? hi I know that you are Azerbaijani and I understand that this news affects the interests of your country, but respecting your civic position and the useful work that you are doing on this site as a moderator, I am sad to realize your "rolling" to nit-picking flags. hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: fortuneophile
        I am sad to realize your "rolling" to nit-picking flags.


        Dear visitor, the status of a moderator obliges me to pay attention to everything, and not just to violations.
        1. fortunophile
          fortunophile 16 May 2013 11: 22 New
          +3
          Quote: Apollon
          Dear visitor, the status of a moderator obliges me to pay attention to everything, and not just to violations.

          Dear moderator, what expresses special attention to my humble person? That I sympathized with Azerbaijan? I do not break the rules, moreover, by virtue of my nature, I wanted to limit myself to just one comment on this topic because I know what such topics lead to, it’s only Gary to catch up. hi Perform your duties, you can do it perfectly, but if I break the rules, I’m ready to bear the deserved punishment. Everything in this topic I will no longer be what I wanted to say in the first comment, but to bicker with moderators ... well, I don’t want to lol
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 27 New
            10
            Quote: fortuneophile
            , What is the focus on my humble person?



            I didn’t want to, but you yourself forced me to.
            1. It’s not particularly easy to pay attention to you, this is a circumstance

            fortunophile
            Full name:
            Group: Visitors
            Date Visited: 16 May 2013 11:05
            Date of registration: 13 May 2013 11:39
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            Rating: 6714
            2 Frequently Changing IP
            3. Rarely, who on the forum in three days receives such a rating or are you a child prodigy ?!
            1. fortunophile
              fortunophile 16 May 2013 11: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: Apollon
              . Rarely, who on the forum in three days receives such a rating or are you a child prodigy ?!

              I don’t even pay attention to it (rating). I’m not interested in it and I assure you that I don’t have any clones or friends who artificially increase it (rating). However, your capabilities allow you to check it hi
            2. BDRM 667
              BDRM 667 17 May 2013 10: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Apollon
              2 Frequently Changing IP

              IP spoofing is not a crime, but just one of the ways to ensure privacy and preserve the integrity of the confidential information of the Web user.
            3. bask
              bask 17 May 2013 11: 01 New
              0
              Quote: Apollon
              3. Rarely, who on the forum in three days receives such a rating or are you a child prodigy?

              Greetings Apollon hi fortunophile.
              Probably one of the, EXAMINED..baby, guests of the site. There are many, probably. The site is addictive. Or it bothers you.
      2. Garrin
        Garrin 16 May 2013 11: 21 New
        +5
        Quote: fortuneophile
        I am sad to realize your "rolling" to nit-picking flags.

        You shouldn’t be so. Apollon, one of the most objective moderators and I have never seen him go down to clarify personal relationships in a public thread.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 44 New
          +6
          Quote: Garrin
          You shouldn’t be so. Apollon, one of the most objective moderators and I have never seen him go down to clarify personal relationships in a public thread.



          I welcome you Igor hi and you would be in my place what would you do ?! winked trust but check first.
          1. Personal relations have nothing to do with it.
          2. A lot of new visitors appeared on the forum, this should only be rejoiced, BUT at the same time, there were many trolls and people engaged in various kinds of advertising on the forum.
          I want to make a reservation right away this is not related to fortunophile
          3. My task also includes checking new visitors.
          4. Based on the item 3.ya and drew attention to the visitor under the nickname fortunophile, he three days as registered.
          5. Igor, based on your statement, I should not check, apparently I do not need to do this if I understand you correctly ?!
          6.I want to admit that I voluntarily or involuntarily made an advertisement fortunophil, now his rating will be off scale laughing
          1. Garrin
            Garrin 16 May 2013 12: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: Apollon
            and you would be in my place what would you do ?! trust but check first.

            Probably the same. I just wanted to note that, as a moderator, you are quite objective. I ask colleagues not to consider this a "deflection" in front of the moderator.
            1. fortunophile
              fortunophile 16 May 2013 12: 23 New
              +4
              Quote: Garrin
              I ask colleagues not to consider this a "deflection" in front of the moderator.

              I will change the principles and I will post the last comment in this thread. There can be no deflections and no one attacked Apollo, he himself would be cut off from a pile of people like me even if I had a bunch and I would attack her (with a bunch) laughing The fact that you spoke in defense of the forum member, whom you respect is "+" to you, as a good friend, then that he is a moderator is secondary. I say it again in order to exclude any omissions: I did not have any complaints about Apollo, and at the present time I have no complaints as a moderator (official). The fact that he sometimes uses the moderator's rights freely (Harry's comment) has recently been deleted, it is already his civil position and it is not for me to condemn and challenge it. As a true patriot of my country, I understand him and believe that any country rests on such citizens: smart, educated and loyal. hi
              All! Let's close this topic !!! hi
        2. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 17 May 2013 11: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Garrin
          You shouldn’t be so. Apollon, one of the most objective moderators and I have never seen him go down to clarify personal relationships in a public thread.

          Note that on this page OTHER site moderators also participate in the discussion of the article, and some of them comment on the statement FORTUNOFIL.BUT SO, only one reacted violently to the content of the commentary ... An alert comrade, to the rest of the moderators (-) wink
    3. BDRM 667
      BDRM 667 17 May 2013 10: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      I’m watching you have flags constantly changing one or the other, the impression is that you are sitting on a forum, travel around the world, or maybe it’s an anonymizer ?!

      It does not matter under what "flag", it is important with what position in life.
      USERS AND MODERATORS BE MUTUALLY TOLERANT!
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  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: fortuneophile
    I sympathize with Azerbaijan, first the oil pipeline, and now also the Iskanders with the Tornado. In my opinion, a worthy answer to Gabala and "tricks" with Israel and Turkey.
    I think that in the light of this news, the war for Karabakh will be postponed indefinitely, no matter how much Azeri "hawks" want to unleash it. The region is already restless, and then the neighbors are trying hard to throw matches lit. hi

    Well, the oil pipeline is generally bullshit, only 2 million swung and it was mixed, with a lower quality oil and Russian oil, and Baku was losing value. This is a purely political move.
  • Retx
    Retx 16 May 2013 13: 24 New
    +6
    To whom? Do they have to do with it? Okay, I sketched a map with the maximum radius of Iskander M (Without cruise missiles). Now, I wonder, you can see against whom they are directed ???
    1. Artmark
      Artmark 16 May 2013 16: 39 New
      +2
      The region is not calm, that strengthens the southern direction !!! And against those who decide to play with the (eggs) of the bear. fool
  • svp67
    svp67 16 May 2013 10: 41 New
    +7
    Troubled region. And the fact that our troops receive new items is very good.
  • Bykov.
    Bykov. 16 May 2013 11: 04 New
    +3
    ... Russia can strengthen the base in Armenia with Iskander-M missiles and Tornado systems ...

    We will strengthen peace in the Caucasus, so that some, all sorts of stupid things would not go into your head ...
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 29 New
      -2
      Quote: Bulls.
      ... Russia can strengthen the base in Armenia with Iskander-M missiles and Tornado systems ...

      We will strengthen peace in the Caucasus, so that some, all sorts of stupid things would not go into your head ...

      It is not peace that is consolidating, but the support of the aggressor state of the occupying territory of a foreign state with a million refugees. And not giving these people the opportunity to return home. That’s fixing it. This is the wrong way, especially for multinational Russia.
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 16 May 2013 11: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: Yeraz
        ... That’s what is fastening. This is the wrong way, especially for multinational Russia ...

        Assistance to its ally, in a strategically important region for us, comes from forces that are much more dangerous to stability than you think, Azerbaijan, which lately, although it has clearly not taken friendly steps towards us, is certainly an ally for us. And the problem of relations between Azerbaijan and Armenia has nothing to do with it, it is not the Iskander that can be solved ...
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 16 May 2013 12: 16 New
          -3
          Quote: Bulls.
          Quote: Yeraz
          ... That’s what is fastening. This is the wrong way, especially for multinational Russia ...

          Assistance to its ally, in a strategically important region for us, comes from forces that are much more dangerous to stability than you think, Azerbaijan, which lately, although it has clearly not taken friendly steps towards us, is certainly an ally for us. And the problem of relations between Azerbaijan and Armenia has nothing to do with it, it is not the Iskander that can be solved ...

          All steps of Azerbaijan are dictated by the support of Armenia to the Russian Federation. Russia itself drove Azerbaijan into such a position that it is forced to look for other forces. Believe me, as soon as the Russian Federation makes it clear that it has changed focus and bases will appear and oil and gas will flow in other directions and everything else. And believe me to have the largest Muslim country in the Caucasus with real grandmothers, which you don’t need to keep, is much more profitable than containing another subsidized miracle, and even curse others because of it. But not everything in this world is eternal, Lenin and Ataturk agreed wink
  • dc120mm
    dc120mm 16 May 2013 11: 21 New
    10
    If the "Iskander" bi children were brought to Gyumr 1 year ago, Saakashvili began to scare smile Thank God Seichas is no longer mentioned by anyone.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 28 New
      +7
      Quote: dc120mm
      If the "Iskander" bi children were brought to Gyumr 1 year ago, Saakashvili began to scare

      He will yell now, his job is to shout.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: dc120mm
      If the "Iskander" bi children were brought to Gyumr 1 year ago, Saakashvili began to scare smile Thank God Seichas is no longer mentioned by anyone.

      The meaning of yelling ?? The territory of Georgia and Azerbaijan is already shot well by arms and a shorter range, because they all border and there is no point in dragging the Iskanders to Armenia.
      1. dc120mm
        dc120mm 16 May 2013 13: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        The meaning of yelling ??

        Some :) to me, and to the harbor.
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 May 2013 11: 24 New
    +7
    I wonder what kind of "Tornado" they are talking about? There are three modifications "G", "U" and "S" based on the "Grad", "Hurricane", and "Tornado", respectively. It would be great to see Iskander in Armenia, but it is hard to believe in it at the moment. In Russia, this complex is armed, in my opinion, only one brigade. First, the demand for Iskanders within the Russian Federation will be satisfied, and only then (after 2015) they may be sent to Armenia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. In addition to a ballistic missile with a launch range of 500 km. A cruise missile launched from the same complex has been developed. The missile has the R-500 code, and the launch range from various sources is from 1500 to 2500 km. These missiles from Armenia can be used to shoot through Turkey. Then the Turks should think even more about the meaning of life.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 29 New
      +8
      Quote: VohaAhov
      First, they will satisfy the demand for Iskanders within the Russian Federation, and only then (after 2015) they may be sent to Armenia

      In fact, Armenia is the borders of the Russian Federation hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 34 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In fact, Armenia is the borders of the Russian Federation


        again in the top ten, well, Alexander has no words good
        and then here are comrades from Armenia, tearing a shirt on themselves and shouting that we are an independent and sovereign state. The status of an autonomous republic is more suitable for it. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 52 New
          +5
          Quote: Apollon
          and then here are comrades from Armenia, tearing a shirt on themselves and shouting that we say an independent and sovereign state.

          It may be independent, from the world, but completely dependent on Russia. Break Russia’s diplomatic relations with Armenia and the next day Azerbaijan will begin to return Karabakh, and a day later a referendum on joining Russia will be held in Armenia laughing Everyone became independent, the question is only from whom.
        2. P-15
          P-15 16 May 2013 12: 09 New
          0
          Have they ever been completely independent from someone? it is not for nothing that there is a Russian proverb - "A tender calf sucks two queens"
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 13: 06 New
            +5
            Quote: P-15
            Have they ever been completely independent of anyone?

            This applies not only to Armenia, but to everyone else. hi
            1. P-15
              P-15 16 May 2013 13: 12 New
              0
              Well, dear, everything in the world to one degree or another depends on something or on someone else. But not to such an extent hi
        3. leon-iv
          leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 44 New
          0
          The status of an autonomous republic is more suitable for it.

          The question is, why do we need it as part of the country? Another subsidized area?
          1. P-15
            P-15 16 May 2013 12: 55 New
            +2
            The whole point is just that they need Russia and not they Russia. The country itself does not economically bring any benefits to Russia. Well, perhaps the buffer zone between Russia and NATO. And what do they usually do with the buffer when it has exhausted its resource?
          2. Yeraz
            Yeraz 16 May 2013 13: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: leon-iv
            The status of an autonomous republic is more suitable for it.

            The question is, why do we need it as part of the country? Another subsidized area?

            Well, actually, it’s already subsidized. Within the CSTO, everything is at domestic prices, and the military’s student is free. The loans that Russia gives cheap gas, the transfer of weapons is free of charge. So, de facto, it’s already subsidized. just de jure is not enough)) @
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 16 May 2013 13: 47 New
              0
              so about the Collective Security Treaty Organization I am aware.
              This is precisely the question of sovereignty.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: VohaAhov
        First, they will satisfy the demand for Iskanders within the Russian Federation, and only then (after 2015) they may be sent to Armenia

        In fact, Armenia is the borders of the Russian Federation hi

        Romanov rare moments when I agree with you hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 11: 53 New
          +8
          Quote: Yeraz
          Romanov rare moments when I agree with you

          And Azerbaijan is included in the zone of geopolitical interests of Russia, so it’s not relaxing laughing
          1. Apollo
            Apollo 16 May 2013 11: 56 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            And Azerbaijan is included in the zone of geopolitical interests of Russia, so it’s not relaxing



            here Alexander you shot off guard. good
            entered, enters and will enter the zone ............
          2. xetai9977
            xetai9977 16 May 2013 12: 12 New
            -1
            But this does not mean that Azerbaijan will not have its own opinion and that it will put up with the loss of part of the territory. Nothing is forever under the moon, and it is beneficial to maintain friendly relations with your neighbors, and not to mock them with different mongrels.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 16 New
              +6
              But this does not mean that Azerbaijan will not have its own opinion and that it will put up with the loss of part of the territory.

              Azerbaijan is no more than a buffer. Few people care about his opinion in the big game.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 16 May 2013 12: 30 New
                -2
                a buffer is not a buffer, anyway, no government in Azerbaijan will compromise on the issue of territories. And he will be friends with anyone who supports our position. This must be taken into account.
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 16 May 2013 12: 39 New
                  +3
                  And he will be friends with anyone who supports our position.

                  somewhere I heard it? exactly in Poland !!!
                2. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 13: 10 New
                  +4
                  Quote: xetai9977
                  Azerbaijan will not compromise on the issue of territories. And he will be friends with anyone who supports our position. This must be taken into account.

                  Georgia is an example, well, and whom did it upset very much?
            2. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 13: 08 New
              +3
              Quote: xetai9977
              But this does not mean that Azerbaijan will not have its own opinion and that it will put up with the loss of part of the territory.

              Georgia also has its own opinion, but only Russia is not very interested in it. With regard to the territory, when Armenia and Azerbaijan return to the now Russian Empire, the conflict will be over.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 16 May 2013 13: 34 New
                +1
                and do you seriously believe that? many people believe that the time of empires has expired.
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv 16 May 2013 14: 00 New
                  +1
                  many people believe that the time of empires has expired.

                  everything is cyclical. Empires are back in fashion.
                  1. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 16 May 2013 14: 34 New
                    +3
                    The mods are fleeting; good neighborliness is eternal. (For those who do not understand this)
          3. Yeraz
            Yeraz 16 May 2013 12: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Yeraz
            Romanov rare moments when I agree with you

            And Azerbaijan is included in the zone of geopolitical interests of Russia, so it’s not relaxing laughing

            So what am I arguing with this ??? I do not agree with how these interests are being realized. Get Azerbaijan as an ally and immediately hold Iran’s eggs, well, because of the greater number of Azerbaijanis there, the more experience there is, Stalin created the state - really, it was forced to leave, it’s a lever on Turkey right away, as influence through Azerbaijan on society in Turkey, plus Azerbaijan is a link to the Turkic world, Turkey cannot do anything without it. It is the largest Islamic republic in the Caucasus, it has a lot money, this is an immediate impact on Europe, because the ally’s oil and gas will no longer be an alternative for Europe. And what does Armenia give ??? It only absorbs. Well, yes, it’s in Gyumri, but they will automatically appear in Azerbaijan if the Russian Federation simply becomes a good ally, subsidies everything else is not needed.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 13: 16 New
              +4
              Quote: Yeraz
              .Get into the allies of Azerbaijan, instantly you hold the eggs of Iran

              Why do we need Iran? We have no problems with Iran, this is amers and Israel’s ches on this occasion. We do not give a damn hi
              Quote: Yeraz
              , plus Azerbaijan is a connecting link with the Turkic world, Turkey cannot do anything without it

              I'm afraid Erdogan is playing his game without Azerbaijan and his opinions. Turkey is now busy with other issues.
              Quote: Yeraz
              Because he has a lot of money, this is an immediate impact on Europe, because the oil and gas of an ally will no longer be an alternative for Europe.

              It's about Nabucco, well, that's how you start building then we’ll talk. For 10 years now, one chatter about Nabucco, and things are still there. We will soon enter the ranks, it’s boring even to wait for nabucco hi
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 16 May 2013 14: 15 New
                0
                [quote = Alexander Romanov] [quote = Yeraz]. Get into the allies of Azerbaijan instantly you hold the eggs of Iran [/ quote]
                Why do we need Iran? We have no problems with Iran, this is amers and Israel’s ches on this occasion. We do not give a damn hi [quote = Yeraz], plus Azerbaijan is a link to the Turkic world, Turkey cannot do anything without it [/ quote]
                I'm afraid Erdogan is playing his game without Azerbaijan and his opinions. Turkey is now busy with other issues. [Quote = Yeraz], it has a lot of money, it’s an immediate impact on Europe, because the ally’s oil and gas will no longer be an alternative to Europe. [/ Quote]
                It's about Nabucco, well, that's how you start building then we’ll talk. For 10 years now, one chatter about Nabucco, and things are still there. We will soon enter the ranks, it’s boring even to wait for nabucco hi[/ quote
                There are no problems with Iran because they have serious problems with the entire Western world. Well, they will shift the power there, with the help of the same Azerbaijani minority they will come, pro-Western forces will have problems.
                You are greatly mistaken about the role of Azerbaijan in Turkey. Turkey plays in different directions, and not just in Syria.
                What does Nabucco have to do with it? I swear I just hear about Nabucco in Russia. Nabucco is ONE OF THE OPTIONS !!!!! While thinking about Nabucco, Azerbaijan has already agreed with Turkey on the Tansanatoli pipeline. Almost the same route.
                Damn it is surprising when you write such a thing, so much information about these projects was written in detail here, but you react as soon as possible for the first time.
                1. ayyildiz
                  ayyildiz 16 May 2013 14: 58 New
                  +4
                  Israel turned to Turkey with a proposal to jointly build a gas pipeline through its territory. The main goal of the construction will be the export of gas from Israel to world markets.
              2. EwgenyZ
                EwgenyZ 17 May 2013 11: 06 New
                +4
                I would like to add to your comment the map of the "New Great Turkey". This is in support of your words about Erdogan and for those who consider Turkey an ally of Azerbaijan. While these are the dreams of Turkish nationalists, but as they say - "there is no smoke without fire."
                1. bask
                  bask 17 May 2013 11: 14 New
                  +2
                  Quote: EwgenyZ
                  So far these are the dreams of Turkish nationalists, but to

                  To dream is not harmful.
                  But the Georgians have already presented their Adzharia to the Turks. ,, Soft, expansion.
                  Ilham Aliyev is an experienced politician. He will not allow infringement of the interests of Azerbaijan by Turkey.
                  And the war with Armenia does not begin, only because of caution and pragmatism, President Aliyev.
                  1. EwgenyZ
                    EwgenyZ 17 May 2013 21: 03 New
                    0
                    I agree with you about Aliyev's pragmatism and caution. But the trouble is: those who drew this map, it is unlikely, have all these qualities, they have the same goal - "New Great Turkey"; and, apparently, they are not going to reckon with the interests of neighbors / allies. The inclusion of Iraqi Kurdistan in the "New Turkey" looks funny .....
        2. Penachet
          Penachet 16 May 2013 12: 20 New
          -3
          Yes, the figs will be sent there, I would do it myself
    2. vanya
      vanya 16 May 2013 12: 16 New
      +1
      tactical nuclear weapons cannot be delivered to Armenia, and without it Iskander does not make much sense
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 16 May 2013 12: 26 New
      +7
      There is none, more. Total produced 32 PU

      26th rocket The Neman Red Banner Orders of Suvorov, Kutuzov and Alexander Nevsky Brigade. In 2010, rearmament on Iskander. (12 PU)

      92 rocket the brigade. In January 2010, rearmament at Iskander. (12 PU)

      1st Guards Rocket Orshanskaya orders of the Suvorov and Kutuzov brigade. In 2011, delivered 4 PU Iskander, in the near future it is also planned to re-equip 8 Tochka-U launchers to Iskander. During the exercises of the Caucasus School “Caucasus-2012”, the brigade launched the Iskander OTR. (4 PU)

      630th Separate Missile Division The 60th training center for the combat use of missile forces of the ground forces, deployed at the Kapustin Yar training ground (South Military District), began rearmament in Kazakhstan 9K720 in 2005. On June 10, 2007, the rearmament of the division was completed; the Iskander RK was adopted. (4 PU)
    4. Artmark
      Artmark 16 May 2013 13: 01 New
      +7
      Greetings, these Iskander and stuff for the RF Armed Forces! And I think they are not directed against Azerbaijan. hi
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 16 May 2013 11: 55 New
    +1
    And rightly so!
  • HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 16 May 2013 13: 03 New
    -2
    Quote: Yeraz
    the presence of the Patriots in Turkey due to mortar shelling by Syria was initially ridiculous, and now if the Iskanders appear, the validity of finding the Patriots will be strictly argued

    Finding Iskanders will be strictly organized, patriots, everything is fair.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: HAIFISCH
      Quote: Yeraz
      the presence of the Patriots in Turkey due to mortar shelling by Syria was initially ridiculous, and now if the Iskanders appear, the validity of finding the Patriots will be strictly argued

      Finding Iskanders will be strictly organized, patriots, everything is fair.

      drinks
  • HAIFISCH
    HAIFISCH 16 May 2013 13: 24 New
    +3
    The most important thing for Russia now is not to follow the curve of the Amero-Yelsk path, it must be remembered that all our neighbors are close at hand, when one country was and it would be unfair to approach these countries from a position of strength, the other question is that these neighbors say one thing and do something else, then in the face, without unnecessary courtesies, you must clearly blow to understand what is possible and what is not. And the Iskanders today, something else tomorrow, this is all for the Turks, comrade Erdagan became painfully impudent, exposes everyone there, and at the very stigma in the cannon, he doesn’t understand the good thing, it will most likely be at gunpoint.
  • fzr1000
    fzr1000 16 May 2013 14: 19 New
    0
    That with Ukraine, cf .. were in other branches. Now with Azerbaijan. Not tired?
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 35 New
      0
      Quote: fzr1000
      That with Ukraine, cf .. were in other branches. Now with Azerbaijan. Not tired?

      They never get tired))))))))))
      I've been writing here for almost two years, nothing has changed))))))))))
      One and the same muslim)))))))
      every time there is some sort of natsik or provakator and off we go)))
      there is almost no serious discussion))))) oh we are so, oh no we are that way))))
      1. fortunophile
        fortunophile 16 May 2013 14: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        They will never get bored))))))))) I've been writing here for almost two years, nothing changes)))))))))) The same thing is too muslim))))))) every time some sort of Natsik appears or a provocateur and off we go))) there is almost no serious discussion))))) oh we are like that, oh no we are that way))))

        Well, today the principle is justified, gave slack once and off we go ... I'm not in the subject of this srach, but I want to generalize: it remains to admit that the majority of Russians are far from reality and consider themselves "rulers of the universe", hence this imposing attitude to others former republics of the USSR. Let's look more broadly, we (Russia) are now the successor of the USSR with nuclear weapons, natural resources "-" freeloaders. But this does not give us the right to perceive other former republics as our own patrimony !!! They live on their own and we can help them, we can "put a spoke in the wheel" in accordance with the policy, but these are OTHER countries !!!
        Azerbaijan is a self-sufficient, prosperous (resources are important) state with an independent policy. What is happening in Azerbaijan with Karabakh is their pain hi and this can be understood, imagine Russia only up to the Urals, but it’s not unpleasant for Russia to realize that it is beneficial to maintain the current situation in this region, when both Armenia and Azerbaijan are in a state of sluggish war, "divide and rule" is acting.
        I am not ashamed of my country for such a policy, Russia benefits from this. The fact that Azerbaijan is doing everything possible to get out of this "trap" is their legal right. hi
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 15: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: fortuneophile
          What is happening in Azerbaijan with Karabakh is their pain

          this is my personal pain !!
          Quote: fortuneophile
          But no matter how unpleasant it is for Russia to realize it is beneficial to maintain the current situation in this region, when both Armenia and Azerbaijan are in a state of a sluggish war, "divide and rule" is acting.

          This is a very controversial issue!
          Russia in the person of Gorbachev and Yeltsin at one time did everything so that Azerbaijan was as far away from Russia as possible !!
          Quote: fortuneophile
          I am not ashamed of my country for such a policy, Russia benefits from this.
          Yes, I do not shame you!
          Before you came to this, you lost mediocre Azerbaijan, or rather your politicians !! If a little smarter and more adequate Russia would have Azerbaijan as an ally no less, and maybe more than Kazakhstan !!
          Let me remind you that despite all the set-ups, the people of Azerbaijan voted in a referendum for the Union as the only republic of the Caucasus !!
          The price of a short-sighted policy is that Azerbaijan is lost forever!

          Quote: fortuneophile
          The fact that Azerbaijan is doing everything possible to get out of this "trap" is their legal right

          Honestly, I don’t see any trap!
          on the contrary, it seems to me that Russia is trying to do something !!
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 16 May 2013 15: 04 New
            -1
            An exclusive interview with Vesti.Az with an assistant professor at the Department of History and Theory of Politics at the Faculty of Political Science, Moscow State University, director of the Institute for Political Studies, and vice-rector for relations with state bodies and public organizations of the Russian University of Economics. G.V. Plekhanov Sergey Markov.

            - Sergey Alexandrovich, how do you assess the decision of the Russian government to abandon the transit of Azerbaijani oil through the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline? Was this decision caused by economic reasons, or is there more politics here, namely, a clear sign of a cooling of Russian-Azerbaijani relations?

            - I think that there is more economy than politics. The Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline was half loaded for a long time, and this was not profitable for Transneft. As far as I understand, there was politics there, but earlier, when it was decided to build the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline and the route through Novorossiysk became less popular. Just for political reasons, wanting to maintain good relations with Moscow, Azerbaijan nevertheless continued to pump some of its oil through Baku-Novorossiysk. Nevertheless, this could not continue for a long time, since it was not economically profitable for Russia.

            The decision of the Russian government regarding the transit of Azerbaijani oil Baku-Novorossiysk is a purely economic decision, and it does not have any serious political consequences.

            - Everything is clear with the economy. But has everything been okay lately in Russian-Azerbaijani political relations?

            - In terms of relations with all countries, Russia is not all right, even with our regions it is not all right. And Baku is not all right with all countries. This does not happen, that with all relations were at a high level. Of course, there are some common things, there are contradictions, but in general, relations between Baku and Moscow can be called positive, good, good-neighborly. That is why Baku agrees that Russia is the co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group to resolve the biggest problem of Azerbaijan - the Karabakh conflict. Of course, Azerbaijan is not very pleased with how the Karabakh conflict is being resolved, and with the fact that Russia helps Armenia within the framework of the CSTO. But relations between our two countries still remain positive.

            - And, nevertheless, despite the fact that more than a year has passed since Putin’s third term, the meeting between Aliyev and Putin did not take place. Is this not a clear sign of a cooling relationship?

            - I think that a meeting between Putin and Aliyev is necessary. The absence of such a meeting does not make it possible to advance our relations. On the other hand, such a meeting cannot happen just like that. It should be prepared by negotiation teams. But the absence of a meeting between the presidents of Azerbaijan and Russia should not be seen as a sign of cooling between Aliyev and Putin or between Azerbaijan and Russia.

            - You recently visited Azerbaijan and shared your impressions about the trip on your page on the Facebook social network. In response, the Armenian media immediately ranked you among the “victims of caviar diplomacy.” Weren't you surprised by such a painful reaction from Armenia?

            - You know, this reaction did not surprise me at all. These publications are an expression of some concern of the Armenian society that Russian public opinion may turn towards Azerbaijan. This is normal, because Armenia is in conflict with Azerbaijan. But I am a Russian citizen, and I am primarily interested in the interests of Russia. And Russian interests require the development of dynamic relations with Azerbaijan. This does not cause me the slightest doubt.
            http://www.vesti.az/news/158609
      2. ed65b
        ed65b 17 May 2013 21: 25 New
        0
        So every time someone gets excited. Especially the 2 categories of implacable people are distinguished Azerbaijanis and Armenians. And the most interesting thing is that many live in Russia and probably forgot the language. (Greenhouse) but genes, father, genes. In my youth, 2 blacks studied at the institute, both from Sudan, one Christian, the other Muslim. in their homeland for 30 years they have been fighting each other for nothing; but in Russia, they live in the same room and eat at the same table. and nothing world. maybe our friends can sit peacefully drink tea, coffee with cognac. and live in peace? Although I think it will not work, the contradictions are too strong. But the Negroes from Sudan were not prevented by these very contradictions.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 16 May 2013 14: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Bulls.
    Help your ally

    By supporting the wrong side in advance, large countries expect to receive good benefits. But in this case, Russia "receives" only expenses and the end is not in sight. You can say that Russia has received a base ... And who needs this base if it does not promises no dividends, no benefits for Russia either now or in the future. Starting from direct multibillion-dollar injections into the Armenian budget and ending with FREE DELIVERY OF EXPENSIVE WEAPONS, AND DELIVERY AT THE EXPENSE OF RUSSIA. At the same time, Armenian sites howl "why is Russia not writing off our debt formally, while forgiving the Cypriots and Cubes." business in other areas. But it was not appreciated. And naturally, relations became cooler. Has Russia benefited from this? It is unlikely ...
  • VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 May 2013 15: 07 New
    +4
    Tell me, good people, but how to deliver Iskanders to Armenia? There is no common border. Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey will be against it anyway. The mass of the self-propelled vehicle is 42 tons (in my opinion, this is together with the missiles). If only by BTA aircraft? Only Ruslan can lift 42 tons. In general, why am I - it comes out a little expensive. And is it worth the candle. And the fact that we have 32 Iskander launchers is great. 64 missiles can be fired in one salvo. Give me different missiles and more.
  • gabatikuk
    gabatikuk 16 May 2013 21: 29 New
    +2
    Thanks to those who made this decision by sending advanced missile weapons to Armenia, this means that finally the Russian leadership again took the initiative in their hands. And as for independence, I will say that this is a relative thing, but Azerbaijan is not an exception, they are completely dependent on oil needles, on Turkey, and finally on I’m advising my Azaribayan colleagues to read an ancient story, not newly made by Azerbaijani authors from the Aliyev Foundation, but a real story written by ancient Asorian, Greek, Vesandian historians and there you will see how many years of Armenia, how many years he dominated the Middle East, how many enemies came and pinched into history And Armenia was, is and will be. And look there for something about Azarbajan. And still look for whether NK was ever part of Independently Azerbaijan? No friends, no one can find this, because there is simply no such thing. We only corrected the Stalin-Bolshevik injustice: Nagorno-Karabakh became independent, so we did not capture 20% of your territories.
    1. kNow
      kNow 16 May 2013 23: 21 New
      0
      Quote: gabatikuk
      Thanks to those who made this decision by sending advanced missile weapons to Armenia, this means that finally the Russian leadership again took the initiative into its own hands.

      Take your time so laughing With these weapons, Russia must first saturate the troops on its territory and only then they will be sent to Armenia. And even then not the Armenians, but the Russian troops stationed there. It is unlikely that you began to enjoy great confidence after you began to take Americans on excursions in order to get acquainted with the S-300 ...

      Quote: gabatikuk
      .And about independence, I’ll say that this is a relative thing, but Azerbaijan is not an exception, they are completely dependent on oil needles

      You yourself would love to sit on an oil needle, but apparently God knew who to give what ...
      Quote: gabatikuk
      I advise our fellow Azarbayan colleagues to read ancient history

      and I advise the Armenians to leave the Stone Age and start living in the present, otherwise they are stuck in the era of the most ancient dinosaurs ...
      Quote: gabatikuk
      there you will see how many years Armenia, how many years he dominated the Middle East

      there are only 21 million of you in the 4st century, how did you manage to dominate the Middle East in antiquity? fellow
      Quote: gabatikuk
      We only corrected the Stalin-Bolshevik injustice

      n-yes ... if you knew that you would blame them, they would not interfere with the Turks ...
      Quote: gabatikuk
      Nagorno-Karabakh became independent, so we did not capture 20% of your territories

      While you were fighting for the independence of Karabakh, you lost your Armenia ...
      1. P-15
        P-15 17 May 2013 07: 52 New
        +1
        better not to say good
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    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 17 May 2013 09: 14 New
      -2
      gabatikuk
      I will answer you in Armenian "ay march, doo inches asum? wach mi bang chi guides"
  • gabatikuk
    gabatikuk 16 May 2013 21: 43 New
    +3
    Yoldashi Azarbajans are a place to go nuts, it’s better to throw from the top of Aliyev for the fact that he and his team spend money of the people of Azarbajan, substituting different countries on his father’s stone face as if his father was a pharaoh. Or maybe you don’t have poor or needy money .. ..
    1. kNow
      kNow 16 May 2013 23: 24 New
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      Quote: gabatikuk
      Yoldashi Azarbajans

      yoldash is a comrade, and we are hardly with you ...
      Quote: gabatikuk
      better throw from the top of Aliyev for the fact that he and his team spend money of the people of Azarbajan

      why didn’t he please you so much? oh yeah, he spends money of the Azerbaijani people laughing
      touching concern, especially against the background of Armenian politicians ...
      Quote: gabatikuk
      Or maybe you do not have poor or needing money ....

      there, but for the most part less than you.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 17 May 2013 21: 31 New
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        And what are you broadcasting from the USA, go to the State Department Troll ???? So you need this for Moscow’s echo ...
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 17 May 2013 10: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: gabatikuk
      Yoldashi Azarbajans are a place to go nuts, it’s better to throw from the top of Aliyev for the fact that he and his team spend money of the Azarbadjan people,

      Let’s reset, don’t worry, Allah conquers him, Gaddafi, Mubarak also sat for a long time, the Assad’s chair is loose, you’d better think about your rams wink
      Quote: gabatikuk
      Or maybe you do not have poor or needing money ....

      Is there, like you and others, what does it have to do with it?
      What do you have, what do our authorities think of themselves, who has monstrous power is measured out foolishly, they stand each other.
  • Grey_k
    Grey_k 17 May 2013 12: 11 New
    +4
    Hello, friends! I have lived for 5 years in Azerbaijan (in Sumgait and in the village of Nasosny) ... I still remember my negative attitude towards Russians ... I remember how I fought with Azerbaijanis at school because of constant harassment on ethnic grounds ... I remember how my mother was pushed out of the line for milk for her little sister because she was Russian, I remember how Azerbaijanis came to evict my family from the apartment ... how my father slept with a machine gun under the couch, went to patrol the streets so that we, Russian-speaking, would not be touched ... I remember when the Azerbaijani kids were walking on the street, they showed me naked * opa and shouted "Russian - look" ... I remember how on the way from school 7 Azerbaijani high school students took my portfolio away from me, took off my shoes ... I walked home barefoot ... and this is an incomplete list of what I and the Russians experienced in Azerbaijan, I remember how a local kid with the surname Dadashev constantly called a Russian teacher * uka in response to remarks about bad behavior and everyone closed their eyes ... and she knew him gave ... almost all teachers were russim and .. Why am I saying this ... I understand that the times were hard, this perestroika and so on ... but I will never forget this attitude .... weaned it off on our own head ... Azerbaijan didn’t even have writing if I'm not mistaken ... we gave them the alphabet, only a couple of letters were changed ... I don't hate Azerbaijan, BUT ... Let Russia act as it sees fit and spare no one ... Only our interests are important .. . Stop feeling sorry for all of us. If you offended someone, sorry!
    1. P-15
      P-15 18 May 2013 12: 43 New
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      Do not 3,14 see you carnation !!! Nasosny settlement is a military town and military airfield. Who are you driving a bullshit here for a pedal horse ???. I myself lived in Sumgait for 5 years and I still had to get to Nasonous, I’m not talking about getting to the territory. I was a Russian language teacher in Sumgait, Vera Ivanovna from Kuban. So I can’t find it for a year, I had no better teacher of the Russian language. Your rhino nose is even visible on the Internet. Russians have never been oppressed in Azerbaijan, as was done in Armenia. ..buka in bots.
  • Grey_k
    Grey_k 18 May 2013 13: 23 New
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    P-15. I have no need to deceive .. It was just that ... I remember it as it is now ... It makes no sense to argue.
  • Grey_k
    Grey_k 18 May 2013 13: 31 New
    +1
    And I remember very well the aunt-neighbor, her name was Maya, a local, give her the god of health. So, she brought us food when they didn’t sell anything to the Russians in the store, they said we don’t understand the Russian language, I remember everything, don’t drive FIG ... maybe it wasn’t everywhere, but it was. Again, in 90, not only in Azerbaijan did this happen, but I write specifically about Azerbaijan. And my father is a military man and I myself am an officer. Better not argue and ask without insults, I did not insult anyone.
    1. P-15
      P-15 18 May 2013 14: 51 New
      +1
      Yes, there wasn’t such a thing in Azerbaijan that they didn’t understand in Russian. How many Russians lived in Sumgait there probably weren’t so many in Baku.
      And in Armenia, I know exactly that and answered, I don’t understand, refused to sell products.
  • Grey_k
    Grey_k 18 May 2013 15: 19 New
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    Friend, let’s not swear, maybe a special case, at Nasosny it was exactly, no bullshit ... In Sumgayit I lived in a dormitory next to the oncological hospital, I don’t remember the exact address, Lenin Street, if I’m not mistaken, was a 10-minute walk.
    1. P-15
      P-15 18 May 2013 15: 28 New
      +1
      Yes, it’s not a matter of swearing, just so much dirt is poured from the words of the nosy, and in Russia many believe that they are so white and fluffy, and we are so wild.
      In a special case, I can still believe it. I myself lived in the 6th microdistrict and studied at the 26th school which was located in the 9th microdistrict. So on the way from school I constantly had clashes with boys from the 9th microdistrict.
  • Grey_k
    Grey_k 18 May 2013 16: 05 New
    +2
    In no case did I want to pour dirt, it was just in my life, and it was also the fact that my Russian friends threw me and fled in fights with the locals, although there were more of us ... I fought with the Azerbaijani Rauf, and got in the face together, and it was like that, everywhere there are bad and evil people ... there are very good ones ... I just gave an example from life, it’s wrong that from one side.
  • MAGNETO
    MAGNETO 19 May 2013 05: 18 New
    +1
    "The task of the CSTO is to protect the territorial and economic space of the countries participating in the treaty through the joint efforts of armies and auxiliary units from any external military and political aggressors."
    the fact is that in the event of a military conflict within the framework of the CSTO, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will have to ensure the territorial integrity and protection of the Armenian side, (the contact line is marked in blue), which means that in which case the Armenian side will try to transfer hostilities (at best, to the territory of the enemy) at worst on his own. This is quite inconvenient for the Azerbaijani side, because their positions along the NKR contact line leave them less likely to succeed (well, the front line itself is shrinking, which is also not in the hands of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces).
    Well, while selling weapons to the Azerbaijani side of the Russian Federation, it does not forget to strengthen its base so that at some point the price of violating the blue line would not become acceptable for the Azerbaijani armed forces