Chinese supercomputer data leak reveals simulation of attacks on USS Nimitz

Leaks from the Chinese supercomputer at the National Research Center in Tianjin, containing petabytes of data (millions of gigabytes), continue to be published online. The hacker group FlamingChina has claimed responsibility for the breach. They claim to have had access to the massive data sets for approximately six months and gradually extracted the information they needed through a botnet.

The national center in Tianjin serves more than 6 corporate clients across China, including defense enterprises, scientific institutes, and military research projects.

Among the stolen items were diagrams from Chinese military researchers for simulating attacks on American equipment, including aircraft carriers.

One such "leaked" simulation was graphics of an attack on the US Navy's Nimitz-class aircraft carriers. Digital models were used to simulate this type of attack. missiles YJ-20 and YJ-19 are Chinese hypersonic anti-ship ballistic missiles with a speed of up to Mach 10.

The scenario under consideration involves hypersonic missiles impacting the deck, which would result in a powerful explosion with an energy release sufficient to completely destroy a Nimitz-class warship. Calculations are being carried out with high precision.

China has denied the supercomputer hack and dismissed the documents as forgeries. However, it's clear that the PLA, like any other major military in the world, is practicing its ability to destroy potential enemy equipment with existing and future capabilities.

Comments

[Sergey Novikov_3]

Verification requires leaking additional information online... If this happens, then yes, there was a hack. Although it already looks very much like one, especially the mathematical calculations. It's impossible to simulate something like that. This would be a very serious "blunder" for China, especially if working engineering documentation from the Chinese military-industrial complex leaks online.

[Michael]

Quote: Sergey Novikov_3

This will be a very serious "blunder" for China.

The fact is that the gates of any fortress can be opened by a donkey loaded with gold.
By the way, this is precisely why communism is hated so much.

[1944 - 1989]

But the donkey's gold will never reach everyone, only the chosen ones, so if there is democracy, the donkey gets it in the ass.
Yes, communism is hated, especially by billionaires, millionaires and their cronies or useful idiots.

[Michael]

Quote: 1944-1989

But the donkey will never have all the gold

And people got mixed up in a heap: millionaires, communists, elected idiots, democrats and donkeys.
This is how I took the liberty of paraphrasing Lermontov’s “Borodino”, in case you didn’t understand.

[1944 - 1989]

[Bayun]

People are not created equal. A two-meter strongman is stronger than a five-foot-tall man. A smart academic is smarter than the average person. And finally, for believers. If the soul is ETERNAL, then among us there could easily be those whose souls are billions of years old, or even "firstborns." I suppose it goes without saying that their words and deeds will differ greatly.

P.S.: Atheists need to accept that some people can run countries, while others can't even run themselves. One has more money than they can handle, while the other has been completely wiped out.

[1944 - 1989]

No one will argue with that.

For example, Albert Einstein, who was a great supporter of socialism. Most people on Earth possess a similar level of intelligence. On the other hand, many intelligent people argue that research methods are imperfect, so it's possible that up to 90% possess a similar level of intelligence. The rest are either geniuses or idiots, the latter often found among the so-called "elite"—see, for example, Donald Trump or Elon Musk.

[1944 - 1989]

Do you think Lenin was stupid when he said a cleaning lady could run a country? No, Lenin knew that if she hadn't become a cleaning lady, but had been trained in management from a young age, most such cleaning ladies would have been excellent managers, certainly better than the current president of Poland, another idiot, drug dealer, and pimp in power.

[Bayun]

No. Lenin was wrong. A person in the wrong place is a disaster for society. People are DIFFERENT! A stoker can't replace a surgeon, and an academician of biology can't "mill a small part." It's the same with managing the state and finances. For this, "every cook" isn't suitable; we need people with a CALLING and trained to fulfill their calling.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Quote: 1944-1989

In your opinion, was Lenin stupid when he said that a cleaning lady could run a country?

Again. Lenin never claimed that any cook could govern a state. He wrote that any cook should learn to govern a state. The context was that 100% all-inclusive democracy would only be effective under this condition. Otherwise, either the participation of the incompetent in government must be limited or one must accept that an incompetent majority will prevent effective governance.
Hence (not only, but also) the desire of the Communist Party of those years to increase the level of education of the population, and the tsarist government to limit it.

[1944 - 1989]

As you can see, people are "to blame" for the fact that they often lack access to adequate education. In non-socialist countries, getting an education for the working class is a difficult task, for example, in the United States. But now, with current prices, it's available everywhere, including in Russia and Poland. And how can you combine full-time work with studying? But what excuse does an idiot from a rich family have? None. It's their fault.

[1944 - 1989]

Moreover, the use of God to justify crimes and injustice is not new in the history of the world.

[Motorist]

Quote: Bayun

Some people can lead countries, while others can't even lead themselves.

If I have, say, 5-10 people reporting to me at work, what generation is my soul? What if I'm simultaneously a henpecked husband at home and my wife is a housewife? And the money seems okay, but I want more? Is there a hierarchy by which I can rank myself?

[Bayun]

This cannot be understood, it must be felt.

If people were able to see souls as bodies, then the questions: "Why does this blockhead occupy such a position? or why does this idiot have a ton of money?" would disappear with one glance at the soul.

5-10 people under his command is an excellent level! For comparison's sake, the leader of the People's Republic of China has 1,5 billion people under his command at most. A filthy-haired liberal is the bare minimum—not his own boss, zero people under his command. It's the same with money: 100 billion in cash—he's the mighty one, asking for a loan—but he can't support himself.

[Motorist]

Quote: Bayun

This cannot be understood, it must be felt.

All feelings are based on data: current parameters and stored experience and/or knowledge. Even so-called intuition. So, it's understandable. You seem to have a pretty good database of this data!

[Bayun]

Quite the opposite! Information shapes matter from "greater potential to lesser." For physicists and mathematicians, this is already a simple fact.

Well(feeling) is more important and more accurate than is the correct one(understanding). "The non-obvious probable," so to speak.)

P.S.: Sorry for the offtopic.

[1944 - 1989]

But I don't ask why, because I know. Billionaires themselves sometimes admit it, so if we're talking about souls, it's debatable whether they even exist; their souls are rotten. "Greed is good."
Driver, today you have 5 people, tomorrow 299, the day after tomorrow 0, or you yourself are one of many, and in a few years you can be picking herbs by the highway, or your death sentence can be commuted to life imprisonment, although personally I support the maximum penalty.

[Winnie76]

Quote: Michael

The fact is that the gates of any fortress can be opened by a donkey loaded with gold.
By the way, this is precisely why communism is hated so much.

You can't buy a real communist with gold, right, Mikhail? And the Soviet people were probably driven to poverty by aliens. So that they could then buy everything with chewing gum and foreign pants.

[Michael]

Quote: Winnie76

A real communist can't be bought with gold.

Many true communists died during the Great Patriotic War. And the mass of false communists became critical; an opportunist opportunist is no longer a communist, even if he holds a party card. And it was the Trotskyists Khrushchev and Brezhnev who drove the Soviet people to poverty.

[Winnie76]

A true communist is also an internationalist. They helped all sorts of Africas and Asias at the expense of their own people. You have to be so gifted in alternative thinking. And the fact that communists died during the war is no argument. Everyone died there. Communists, capitalists, Trotskyists, and non-party members.

[topol717]

Quote: Sergey Novikov_3

Verification requires the release of additional information into the network...

The US itself conducted the test. Fifty years ago, they tried to sink their old aircraft carrier, which they had slightly modernized. They dropped a huge number of bombs and missiles on it, but it remained afloat. In real life, no one would allow such a heavy bombing. It's easy to disable it for a short time, but impossible to sink it. The Nimitz is a well-known ship; at work, I had a very large book on it, with all its performance characteristics and weaknesses. It was recommended reading, so to speak, for general knowledge, because you need to know your enemy!

[tatarin1972]

Let me put it this way: it doesn't necessarily have to be sunk; it's enough to disable the flight deck and that's it. It's an aircraft carrier; other than air defense, it has no weapons.

[sub307]

Exactly... and also simply disabling the fan system..., as recent events have shown - this significantly lowers the POLIMORSOS (political morale) of the crew.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: sub307

Exactly... and also just disable the fan system...

And burning down the laundry room would be a complete disaster...

[sub307]

Something like that..., but non-functioning latrines are somehow more effective..., from my point of view, knowing the surface crews of the "big ships" and their commitment to comfort... ))

[tatarin1972]

The abbreviation is familiar; in my youth I also smiled loudly when I heard it.

[sub307]

Well, yes..., it all comes from there..., from "youth".))

[Last centurion]

It's enough to hit not only the deck but also the "island"—killing the entire command staff and disabling communications, after which the barge will be unable to launch or communicate. It will turn into a submarine with hundreds of wounded, and the entire strike group will be solely dedicated to evacuation and rescue. A single accurate missile is enough to render 5-6 sailors in the order and support forces incapable of combat and engaged in anything but war. Sinking is more difficult. But it's more beautiful, yes...

[kventinasd]

Quote from: topol717

At work I had a very large book on it, with all the technical characteristics and all the weak points.

And in those very performance characteristics of this aircraft, were the capabilities of countering hypersonic missiles (for example, the Zircon missile), which can pierce through any American vessel, even without a warhead, taken into account?

[Neo-9947]

Quote: kventinasd

(for example, Zircon missiles)

Until the missile has demonstrated its capabilities in combat, it shouldn't be taken seriously. So far, the Tsirkon hasn't sunk anyone. However, the Russian Armed Forces are conducting military operations against Ukraine (NATO), specifically in the Black Sea.
AND WHERE IS OUR BLACK SEA FLEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ItieHisMother with Zircons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Neo-9947]

Weapons are for fighting, not for showing off on TikTok.
Well?

[alexoff]

Zircons have been used repeatedly. So what? Didn't they sink a single aircraft carrier?

[Last centurion]

What nonsense is this about "weapons for war"? Are you suggesting we throw Yars at Kiev or London for demonstration purposes?
Some weapons, when unsheathed, immediately start a war or lead to the "extinction of civilizations."

[Ball]

Quote: Last centurion

You suggest throwing Yars on Kyiv or London for demonstration

There's no need to go to Kyiv. Kyiv is a Russian city, and we'll still have to clean it up from Rogul's garbage. As for London, it's long overdue.

Quote: Last centurion

Some weapons, when unsheathed, immediately start a war or lead to the "extinction of civilizations."

We'll burn London - not a single Euro-scum, but a single NATO scum will dare to crawl out from under the broom and yelp something.

[Victor Leningradets]

And in those very performance characteristics of this aircraft, were the capabilities of countering hypersonic missiles (for example, the Zircon missile), which can pierce through any American vessel, even without a warhead, taken into account?

What's the point of this junk?! It needs to hit precisely, not "anywhere."
A 500-700 kg warhead detonating 10-15 meters under the keel is much more effective. Anti-ship missiles are good at it, and most importantly, they love it!

[alexoff]

Are you saying that an aircraft carrier is more unsinkable than something like Yamato?

[topol717]

I want to say that the Chinese have discovered an open secret.

[alexoff]

The Chinese were doing what they were supposed to do—estimating damage to an enemy ship to determine the deployment of forces and assets. They weren't armchair warriors, whose aircraft were either unsinkable or could be sunk by a pair of Kh-35s. They were building model aircraft carriers in the desert to practice attacks. And the secrets of unsinkability—you can see that in the Yorktown and Hornet, both of which are the same model, but the former only needed two torpedoes, while the latter had to be sunk by themselves. It turned out to be so indestructible.

[Victor Leningradets]

Are you saying that an aircraft carrier is more unsinkable than something like Yamato?

And what about Yamato? Survivability was so-so—a dozen flimsy aerial torpedoes for 72 tons. Scharnhorst received the same number of full-size torpedoes with a displacement half as large.
But yes, the carrier, thanks to its more advanced torpedo protection and greater buoyancy, will certainly outperform the Yamato. However, after a couple of good hits, its combat effectiveness will be completely lost.

[alexoff]

The Yamato lost its chance of survival due to the explosion of its main gunpowder magazine. That's how people sink—either because of their own weapons or because they can't pump out the water.

Quote: Victor Leningradets

The aircraft carrier, due to its more advanced anti-tank protection and greater buoyancy reserve, will certainly surpass the Yamato.

Honestly, I can't imagine anyone planning to hit an aircraft carrier with torpedoes. It seems like either a sideways anti-ship missile, or a vertical, overhead ballistic missile. The Chinese are planning on using ballistic missiles that, with luck, will penetrate to the bottom; after all, Mach 10 from a long-range missile is nothing special. And what it will hit—a fuel depot, a bomb depot, a reactor, or something unimportant—is up to Allah.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

It's easy to put it out of action for a short time

How short is short? Even a couple of months would ruin all your military campaign plans. Also, remember that in your example, they were sinking a blank without fuel or ammunition, but with a real aircraft carrier, any fire could have irreversible consequences. It might float, but it can no longer perform its intended function. Repairing it would be impractical; it's cheaper to build a new one. Which, ultimately, would mean its destruction.

[SAG]

This will be a very serious "blunder" for China.

Come on... What's so serious about this? Does every developed country simulate situations involving the destruction of enemy equipment? So they just posted this... Are they going to sue them? Or wag their finger at the ambassador? Or what are the consequences?
Maybe this is blackmail, aimed at selling something that wasn't posted, or maybe this is some aggrieved bribe-taker's petty revenge, and nothing serious ever happened on this supercomputer...
Once again we know that we know nothing!

[Same lech]

The hacker group FlamingChina claimed responsibility for the hack. They claim to have accessed massive amounts of data for approximately six months and gradually extracted the information they needed through a botnet.

Are you serious???
The Chinese are conducting industrial espionage and intelligence gathering on valuable technologies all over the world... and here, for six months, some freeloading hackers have been stealing valuable information from under their very noses.
I don't believe it in my life...
It looks more like a ploy for the Americans...to keep Trump from getting too carried away with the war with Iran.

[Tagan]

Are you serious???
The Chinese are conducting industrial espionage and intelligence gathering on valuable technologies all over the world... and here, for six months, some freeloading hackers have been stealing valuable information from under their very noses.
I don't believe it in my life...

And what is stopping someone else from conducting espionage and intelligence in relation to China?
"Freeloading hackers" are not always what you imagine.

[Nemo70]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The Chinese are conducting industrial espionage and intelligence gathering on valuable technologies all over the world... and here, for six months, some freeloading hackers have been stealing valuable information from under their very noses.

Exactly Alexey..I agree!!

Quote: The same LYOKHA

It looks more like a ploy for the Americans...to keep Trump from getting too carried away with the war with Iran.

There's a wave going around here that Taiwan has decided to reach an agreement with Xi so that there won't be a war and we agree to be part of China...)))

Quote: The same LYOKHA

It looks more like a ploy for the Americans...to keep Trump from getting too carried away with the war with Iran.

The US got its teeth broken in Iran, and someone is turning them against China again. Here's a new target, the tireless red-haired Joe!!!! Taiwan is already falling to China... And Madagascar is ready to stand under Russia's protection! Oh, what's going on in the world... hehe
P.S. They didn’t believe our GDP in Munich... You Europeans and the West still can’t imagine WHAT YOU HAVE DONE... Now it’s all starting to come true!

[Eugene 62]

It's possible this leak wasn't accidental. The Chinese are sending a subtle hint to the Americans not to place too much faith in their carrier groups. And the hackers were simply used for this leak.

[drags33]

I'm not entirely clear on the point of this post... So, was the aircraft carrier "destroyed" on the computer or not? I haven't mastered Chinese yet... )))) Well, the fact that ANY system can be hacked is nothing new... And most likely, this "hack" was approved by the Chinese themselves.

[Kotofeich]

Off-topic news:
Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin suspended the service of Deputy Minister of Digital Development, Communications and Mass Media Andrei Zarenin due to his departure for military service. The corresponding document was published on April 10 on the official legal information website.
According to Izvestia sources, Zarenin's departure is not related to his professional activities, and there were no complaints against him in the civil service. He will reportedly head the UAV and counter-unmanned aerial systems unit, and will oversee the brigade's innovative development and exchange of experience with military units in the Northern Military District.

[Junior Private]

If you hacked the servers of the Pentagon, the CIA, the NSA, and others, you'd find 100500 plans, ranging from how to trick Russian tourists into buying apples at inflated prices at Bulgarian markets to a plan to enslave Germany in a single day. Musk is also included in the plans, if he lands on Mars without authorization. This is all routine, everyday work for intelligence agencies. Most of these plans will never be implemented, but they will continue to be modeled. Whether any of these scenarios actually come to fruition is a different matter. A data leak is a global disease.

[Michael]

Quote: Junior Private

And data leakage is a global disease.

That's why in serious organizations everything is based on trust and mutual responsibility.

[opuonmed]

from wiki)
7168 Nvidia Tesla M2050 GPUs.
14,336 Intel Xeon server processors

It's no wonder the US had access to a hacker group called FlamingChina. Maybe they're trying to show China something. It's a joke, but there's a joke in every joke... ))

[Ed Mac]

I wonder if the GPUs and CPUs contributed to the hack? Perhaps there's code in their drivers or firmware that facilitates this?

[isv000]

We need to stop playing on the computer and immediately take lessons from the characters on how to hit the aircraft...

[Jacques sekavar]

During the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet propaganda industry was active, and the Russian Federation should follow its example during the war—posters similar to Kukryniksy, videos similar to those used by the US showing nuclear strikes on the US and EU, and videos similar to those used by the PRC showing strikes on Nimitz and Abraham. They apparently don't do this because of commercial relations with the enemy, even during wartime, which theoretically couldn't have happened during the USSR's war with Nazi Germany.

[AC130 Gunship]

I'm afraid to ask. Why do they need a supercomputer for this? And does the author even have a clue what that is?

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: isv000

We need to stop playing on the computer and immediately take lessons from the characters on how to hit the aircraft...

No problem at all. You take Solovyovskabeeva, put her in front of the camera, and she starts spouting her vomit-inducing propaganda.

[don_Reba]

The missile's approach angle to the target is ~30 degrees (<45) from the horizontal (or 60 from the vertical, tankers like it that way).
Not typical for PKBR: it should be 80 (from horizontal).
I'll assume that the programmers are foreign agents of the PRC and are playing someone else's game.

[Maikcg]

And those petabytes of data were probably stored in Google's cloud on American servers? Otherwise, leaking that much data would have taken quite a while.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Ball

We'll burn London - not a single Euro-scum, but a single NATO scum will dare to crawl out from under the broom and yelp something.

Kedmi drew a simpler picture so as not to disturb the civilians. A gathering of submarines (I think 4) and a power plant (1). That's it. And everyone on the island will be happy...

[agond]

Even without modeling, it is clear that if a missile hits an aircraft carrier at a speed of 3 km/s, it will not be the same as if a regular aerial bomb of the same weight hits it, but I would like to see their computer simulation.

[Alexander Perevolotsky]

Who guarantees this isn't a deliberate "leak"? This is what we can do... And read between the lines, what we can do even more.