The attack on the US base in Kuwait was carried out not by drones, but by two Su-24s with Iranian pilots.

Two weeks ago, the Pentagon modestly reported six casualties in Kuwait – victims of a “drone attack.” Now it has been revealed that the strike on Camp Arifjan was not carried out by Drones, and Su-24 bombers with FAB-500 high-explosive bombs on board.

In photographs from the scene, the body of an unexploded Soviet aerial bomb is clearly visible among the debris.

Two Iranian Su-24s (probably from Bushehr or Shiraz airbases) took off at dawn, clinging to the water at an altitude of 24 meters – below the level at which radars operate.

60-year-old FAB-500s dropped from old Soviet aircraft pierced the American Defense Where they least expected. The US tactical command center in the port of Ash-Shweiba was destroyed. Six American soldiers—the 200th.

Having broken through to their target, the Iranian pilots turned their planes southeast. Not back—interceptors were already waiting there. But toward Qatar. Ten thousand American troops were based there, at the US Al Udeid air base. Western analysts are wondering: did the pilots intend to launch a second strike or were they simply trying to escape?

The Qataris deployed F-15QA Ababil fighter jets into the battle. A source told CNN that the Iranian bombers were just two minutes away from their target over Qatar. Two Su-24s reportedly eventually crashed in Qatari territorial waters.

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[The popuas]

It is reported that two Su-24s eventually crashed in Qatari territorial waters.

..one way flight Were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

[Kotofeich]

Quote: Popuas

Were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

Or heroes
A kamikaze has 0 chance of survival, but here there was 1 chance.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Kotofeich

Or heroes
A kamikaze has 0 chance of survival, but here there was 1 chance.

We sing a song to the madness of the brave (A.M. Gorky)

[BOCTOBER 77]

The Su-24 frontline bomber is designed to penetrate air defense zones at extremely low altitudes. It has a relatively short range with its outboard fuel tanks at low altitudes and typically uses external fuel tanks. I serviced this aircraft.
The air defense claims it can protect the target with a 70-90 percent probability. The Air Force claims it can destroy the target from the air with a 70-90 percent probability. These are fine claims, and they were made back in the USSR. But the two don't add up. I witnessed an exercise where Su-24s completely smashed a target protected by air defense, even though they knew about the attack in advance... The breakthrough was carried out at extremely low altitudes. The Su-24's self-propelled guns have a low-altitude flight mode with terrain-following capabilities in automatic and semi-automatic modes...

[avia12005]

In the late 1980s, four MiG-27Ds from Steppe Airfield landed in Borzya for refueling, then flew at extremely low altitudes to Chita to test the Zabaykalsky Voivodeship air defenses and landed in Domna. The air defense forces only spotted them landing in Domna. There was a huge scandal. The flight commander was A.D. Nason. So, Su-24s aren't the only ones capable of flying at extremely low altitudes.

[ZovSailor]

In any case, under circumstances that are still unclear, they completed their combat mission, killed the striped ones, and raised the morale of the Iranian armed forces.
For the attack on children in schools and the civilian population of the Iranian people, this already speaks to the level of retaliation.
Victory to the Iranian people in the war against the Zionists and the Yankee terrorist aggressors.
Yankee, go home!

[dementor873]

When cities are bombed and a school full of children is destroyed, will you even consider this approach? For me, the average person, it's terrifying, but pilots are chosen only by strong-willed and mentally prepared people.

[seditious]

To pilots. Our military uses the word "pilot."

[don_Reba]

Quote: Sediter

Our military uses the word "pilot".

Are the Yezhovites thirsting for blood again with their berries? What a seed!

A brown button lay on the road.
No one noticed her in brown dust
But barefoot passed along the road
Barefoot, tanned stomped, passed.

The guys were walking on a sunny road,
Alyosha was the last and most dusty.
By chance or on purpose, he himself does not know for sure
Alyoshka stepped on the button with his foot.

He picked up this button and took it with him,
And suddenly I saw non-Russian letters on it.
Guys with the whole crowd to the head of the outpost
Running away, turning off the road, hurry, hurry, hurry!

“Tell me exactly,” the chief said sternly,
And he revealed the green card before him, -
- Among which village and on which road
Has Alyoshka stepped on a button?

Four days searched, four days jumped
Fighters on all roads, forgetting food and sleep,
On the road we met a stranger
Severely examined him from all sides.

But there are no buttons from the left pocket
And short pants are not sewn in Russian,
And in the back of your pocket - gun cartridges
And a map of the fortifications of the Soviet side.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: don_Reba

Our military uses the word "pilot".
Are the Yezhovites thirsting for blood again with their berries? What a seed!
A brown button lay on the road.
No one noticed her in brown dust
But barefoot passed along the road
Barefoot, tanned stomped, passed.

You are very suspicious, Uncle Yezhov, worse than Comrade Beria. The man corrected another. Not a pilot, but a pilot. I also correct people who say a ship sails on the sea. I say - ships go on the sea. This is customary among sailors and people associated with the Russian Navy. So what? That he is also Yezhov? Or a Jew-diesel, Netanyahu?

[jaroff]

However, there is the term "floating craft" and "floating crew"

[Sokolov_Vladimir]

"Hey, sailor, you've been sailing too long," - in the 70s, the sailors themselves would say "sailed." I was just a kid then, though, so I remember it, and I've lived in Vladivostok ever since.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: zharyoff

However, there is the term "floating craft" and "floating crew"

There is much in the world, friend Horatio, which our sages did not dream of

[PAN51]

As "flight (flight-lift) personnel" and "engineering and technical personnel" in aviation.

[don_Reba]

I am not suspicious, Aunt Kaya KALos, I am not suspicious, you, Aunt KALos, are mistaken.
"The Man" didn't just correct it, but

Quote: Sediter

Our military

Quote: 30 vis

Or a zhidozel, Netanyahu?

Without the filthy ones, well, it’s impossible, I understand, I understand you, Kaya.
I also have no water in the tap at the moment.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: don_Reba

There is no water in the tap at the moment.

So you drank this water.

[don_Reba]

At first, some crazy people ran around looking for “non-brothers”, on the other hand, even more crazy people carried out the verification of “Polaynitsa”.
But there is always a price and never a shortage of the old-fashioned lunatics who are looking for Jews in the water taps.

[Seal]

Quote: Sediter

To pilots. Our military uses the word "pilot."

And yet, there is a difference. A pilot (in aviation) is always an airman. But a pilot is far from always a pilot. This difference is best illustrated by the crews of large aircraft. For example, the crew of the Tu-160 ("White Swan") strategic bomber-missile carrier consists of four people.
The TU-160 crew consists of:
Pilot (ship commander)
Second pilot;
Bombardier;
Protection systems operator.

Or here is the Tu-95RC (reconnaissance version):
ship commander (pilot);
assistant to the ship's commander (also a pilot);
senior flight engineer (not a pilot);
navigator (sometimes a former pilot);
navigator-operator of the Uspekh-U equipment (not a pilot, but could also have been a former pilot);
second operator of the Success-U equipment (not a pilot);
operator of the ultra-high-speed equipment "Shark" (UHSE) (not a pilot);
electronic intelligence operator (EI) (not a pilot);
senior gunner-radio operator (not a pilot);
operator of the radio interception station "Cherry" (not a pilot);
Fire unit commander (FUC) (not a pilot).

[Arslan Ali]

A pilot (in aviation) is always an airman.

Not always, since there is helicopter aviation as an industry, and there are helicopter pilots there.

[Seal]

Quote: Arslan Ali

Not always, since there is helicopter aviation as an industry, and there are helicopter pilots there.

Aren't helicopter pilots pilots?

[Arslan Ali]

All who fly are pilots, in a general sense.
But it is not used - helicopter pilot, instead it is helicopter pilot, helicopter pilot.
When you write simply "pilot," it's not immediately clear who you're talking about, and that's why a pilot won't always be a pilot.

[PAN51]

The Tu-160 crew consists of: Ship (crew) Commander, Assistant Ship (crew) Commander, Ship (crew) Navigator and Second Navigator (Navigator-operator).

[Michael]

Quote: Popuas

..one way flight Were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

They could very well have abandoned the plane at the right place and are now making their way back to their homeland via secret partisan routes. And the plane completed its mission successfully.

[vitaliy20091959]

Let's hope for the brave pilots

[topol717]

In 2 minutes, no one in the world will be able to get fighter jets into the air.
And the main question is, when will Russian aircraft fly over 404? There are no air defense missiles there anymore, no radars, not even people.

[eugen_caro]

I think your pilots, if they had their way, would fly... but the Persian generals, and yours, are like day and night... by the way. And I think the Orc missiles can reach Ust-Luga and further, in part because the remaining A-50s don't control the skies, but are grounded ("just in case they get shot down").... But they could give targeting instructions to fighter aircraft to destroy these missiles... and that's also someone's order...

[Arkady007]

Yes, there are questions about the Su-24's flight. A beautiful approach and then a strange disappearance. It sounds more like a fairy tale.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Arkady007

Yes, there are questions about the Su-24's flight. A beautiful approach and a strange disappearance.

I'd like to see a link to a reliable source of information. The author has been rather coy about the source of this description of this episode.

[Rakitin]

And so, where did Iran get those "60-year-old Soviet bombs"? Back then, the USSR was Iran's "little Satan," and before 1979, Persia was close friends with the US, Europe, and Israel, receiving weapons from there. So, it's a beautiful story, but it's a shame it's all bullshit. :-)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Rakitin

Until 1979, Persia had close friendships with the USA, Europe and Israel, receiving weapons from there.

Until 1979, Iran also purchased weapons from the USSR. Mostly for the ground forces, but some went to other branches as well.
Also, for example, the USSR built a tank repair plant in Iran.

[PAN51]

Meanwhile, very interesting details emerged yesterday, demonstrating the high morale of the Iranian army. It was revealed that the strike on the American base in Qatar the day before (which killed six American soldiers and wounded 20) was carried out by four Iranian Air Force pilots flying aging (more than 40 years old; Tehran has no more modern) Su-24 bombers. Realizing that this was a one-way trip for them (and that no one would mount a rescue operation), they did not retreat. And in this self-defeating attack, they struck the enemy base.

The importance of this strike is difficult to overstate. For the US, this isn't just a significant loss of personnel. It's also a forward supply base, including for a possible invasion of Iran. And today, its destruction (like the destruction of all similar bases) is the most important task for the Iranian army.

"It's also a very telling example of courage and devotion to duty. And the Americans should seriously consider what a ground invasion of Iran, a country with a population of 90 million, might mean for them given the enemy's fortitude."

[KCA]

Why? The planes are on standby, the pilots are on alert, the engines are warmed up, it's quite possible.

[topol717]

Quote: KCA

Why? The planes are on standby, the pilots are on alert, the engines are warmed up, it's quite possible.

Because Iran was constantly targeting those airfields with shaheeds and missiles. The planes were kept in concrete hangars.

[BOCTOBER 77]

Let me clarify, it is not possible, but the following is provided:
Readiness #1. The pilot is seated in the aircraft, which is prepared for takeoff, equipped, and ready to start, with the engine warmed up. Takeoff time is approximately 2 minutes.
Readiness #2. The pilot is dressed in his gear and is in the holding area near the aircraft. The aircraft is ready, equipped, and ready for launch. Takeoff is scheduled after a shortened engine run for approximately 10 minutes...The numbers may be wrong...

[ZnachWest]

While she's still 101st... ......

[Arslan Ali]

And the plane completed its mission successfully.

Somehow, it didn't sound deserved.)
Two planes broke through and both completed the mission successfully, so it would be fairer.

[olegff68]

Oh, those storytellers, from the squad of girl designers. They're haunted by the laurels of the Su-24 that "scared the living daylights out" of the destroyer Arleigh Burke. The Americans (and often our own) love to decorate their bases with decoy munitions—shells, mines, and bombs. There are countless videos and photos of Soviet bombs in American locations.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Popuas

It is reported that two Su-24s eventually crashed in Qatari territorial waters.

..one way flight Were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

Whatever one may say, Iran's technological backwardness is having an effect - a strike with free-falling bombs is only possible if the enemy's air defenses are absent or completely destroyed.
In all fairness, the strike should have been carried out with air-launched cruise missiles such as X-59 and its modifications (Kh-59MK2 for stationary targets with satellite navigation guidance).
Then the pilots would have remained alive...

[abrakadabre]

A strike with free-falling bombs is only possible in the absence or complete destruction of enemy air defenses.
In theory, the strike should have been carried out with air-launched cruise missiles such as the Kh-59 and its modifications.

or gliding munitions.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: abrakadabre

A strike with free-falling bombs is only possible in the absence or complete destruction of enemy air defenses.
In theory, the strike should have been carried out with air-launched cruise missiles such as the Kh-59 and its modifications.

or gliding munitions.

For use PLANNING ammunition, for example FAB-500 (as written in the article) with a module UMPC the plane needs to climb altitude 12000m - there can be no talk of any covert attack on radars, unless all enemy radars are disabled and do not work.

[WIS]

Quote: Popuas

Were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

Quote: Montezuma

Where does the description of this episode come from?

- FROM THERE...(c)
...

clinging to the water at a height of 24 meters

60-year-old FAB-500 dropped from

- more appropriate here:
1) 1969 — development of the attack version of the FAB-500Sh (GNPP Bazalt): it received a built-in braking device with a parachute system; it allowed bombing from low and extremely low altitudes (100–200 m), reducing the risk of damage to the aircraft by shrapnel;

2) 1976 – release of the low-altitude modification FAB-500SHN:
optimized for use from low altitudes;

Every pilot is already a hero....

Every pilot flew out on a mission carrying a pin laced with a special toxin. It was attached to a silver dollar. If the pilot understood,
https://life.ru/p/1112856

Two MiG-19 fighters from the 365th Fighter Aviation Regiment (pilots - Captain Boris Ayvazyan and Senior Lieutenant Sergei Safronov) were raised
...
Safronov's MiG-19 was mistaken for an enemy aircraft and came under anti-aircraft missile fire from the 57th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade. Three missiles were fired at it. The fighter was shot down, and the pilot was killed (he was subsequently posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Banner by the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on May 7, 1960).
https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/8366353

The service ceiling of the MiG-19s flown by Captains Boris Ayvazyan and Sergey Safronov was 17,5 km. Therefore, a high-altitude Su-9 interceptor with a service ceiling of 20 km was scrambled first. Pilot Igor Mentyukov had order to ram U-2, but due to operator errors and failure of the onboard radar, the ramming did not take place. -wiki

- without translation...

[Fitter65]

Quote: Popuas

..one-way flight, were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

But did that flight actually happen? Two weeks passed, and it turns out they shot down two Iranian planes... But was there a boy?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Fitter65

Quote: Popuas

..one-way flight, were there kamikazes at the controls or something!?

But did that flight actually happen? Two weeks passed, and it turns out they shot down two Iranian planes... But was there a boy?

There were reports of two Su-24s being shot down, but there were no reports that they bombed anything.
In general, in war, a lot is hidden, and when it is reported, it's not always everything and not always as it really was. For a variety of reasons.

[alexputnik17]

60-year-old FAB-500

We need the Iranians to "invent" a UMPK that is surprisingly similar to ours...
And what about the pilots? 200?

[Michael]

Quote: alexputnik17

60-year-old FAB-500

We need the Iranians to "invent" a UMPK that is surprisingly similar to ours...
And what about the pilots? 200?

The planes sank, and the pilots most likely left the cockpits long before splashdown and are now making their way back to their homeland along secret partisan paths.

[highlight]

The Iranians had their own glide bombs long before... They used them in exercises in 19 with Su-22s.

[Eula]

Truly - the madness of the brave!

[Junior Private]

The Su-24 is a truly unique aircraft. A good old Soviet workhorse. It just needs cover; it's toothless against fighters.

[Michael]

Quote: Junior Private

The Su-24 is a unique aircraft.

It's like frost on my skin
The Rook nodded wearily.
So I'm all in doubt
My plane is just a wreck.

But car breathes alive
As if holding someone from above
And in the headphones I hear:
"Flyers, thank you!" ("The Rooks Have Arrived").

[Grancer81]

"Rook" is a Su-25. A completely different machine.

[Arslan Ali]

The Rook pecked wearily

Well, then the "fencer", "night pirate" - NATO.
Or "Iron", "Chest", "Suitcase" - USSR.

[mitrich]

Brave guys were at the controls of the Su-25s. They knew they were heading for certain death.

[bubalik]

"There is a slightly different version.
An explanation has been found for the Soviet aerial bomb that was captured on camera near the US Army command post in Kuwait destroyed by an Iranian air strike.

In the aftermath photo, the bomb didn't initially appear to have been dropped from an aircraft. And as it turns out, the Americans are using demilitarized aerial bombs as decoration at their bases in the Middle East.

This 2021 photo shows an example of such a specific decoration on the territory of an American military facility in the port of Shuaiba in Kuwait, where Iranian drones will land in 2026 and kill six US soldiers.
TG

[aybolyt678]

The heroes died in a holy war against the enemy! Their war is truly sacred; you don't even need to be a believer to see it.

[Aag]

Quote: aybolyt678

The heroes died in a holy war against the enemy! Their war is truly sacred; you don't even need to be a believer to see it.

The day after tomorrow we will see the "believers" on TV....
No, believe me, I don’t want to offend the feelings of believers.
But, what about the others, who do not bow down and do not establish the MAX?!
...People are bullied on any available basis...
Whose idea was this?

[Roman_Vasilyevich]

...the strike on Camp Arifjan was carried out not by drones, but by Su-24 bombers with FAB-500 high-explosive bombs on board

From Mayakovsky's "notes":

Listen!
Listen, people,
cities and fields!
In the sky,
where is the air
knocked down by the heat,
Not "Shahid"
with a boring buzzing
scary -
World
about other
the trumpet is blowing today!

Dawn.
Bushehr.
The birds woke up.
But not for the song -
on business
let's go!
Two shadows
rushed
across borders,
So that sleeping Kuwait
to the bone
shake.

Not drones -
Toys
for quiet hide and seek,
And steel
Soviet
cast monolith:
Two Su
twenty-fourths,
from keel to heels,
In which
rage
turbines
it's boiling!

We walked,
to the water
pressing the body.
Twenty-four meters!
Below the radar!
For air defense
didn't have time to detect
Steel calculation
lead blows.

And under the wing -
not empty words,
Not a whistle
useless
empty promises.
There's a FAB-500 there.
five hundred!
Two
Tons of greetings
for "bases"-universes.

In the port of Esh-Shweiba -
well-groomed and well-fed -
Tactical center
US forces.
Was -
and there's none!
dug into concrete
Land mine
this pride
into dust
kneaded!

See,
admirals
in ironed French jackets:
While you
were trembling
above the frequency map, -
Soviet technology
in morning tornadoes
Your "dome"
stitched
through!
That's it!

[Victor Leningradets]

Bravo, Roman Vasilievich!
Tonally correct, ideologically true.
Write more!

[Force]

As I understand it, this photo is about a bomb that is simply lying unburied in the ground without any visible damage.
In general, an evening of awesome stories from VO

[ALCA056000]

That's true. You believe the photo of Klitschko with a Kinzhal warhead more than the saucepans...

[Michael]

Quote: Vigore

In general, an evening of awesome stories from VO

Since the days of young Stanley Kubrick, the level of screenwriting and directing in Hollywood has dropped significantly.

[guest]

Quote: Michael

Since the days of young Stanley Kubrick, the level of screenwriting and directing in Hollywood has dropped significantly.

And now, skill is not particularly in demand there; the main thing is to promote European values.

[Michael]

Quote: guest

And now, skill is not particularly in demand there; the main thing is to promote European values.

By the way, if you compare the British and American versions of "Spooks," the British version only hints at gayness, while the American version barely even kisses, which is truly annoying. There's also a German-French version, but I'm still planning to watch it, saving the best for last.

[KTM-5]

The last battle of the legendary Soviet machines.
They worked against those against whom they were created.
And the pilots are real heroes!

[Siberian 66]

The last battle of the legendary Soviet machines.
They worked against those against whom they were created.
And the pilots are real heroes!
Beautifully said. But I don't think this is the last fight.

[Leonid Dymov]

Pilots are very expensive, more expensive than any aircraft. For Shiites, jihad is more important than for Sunnis. But it is still necessary to avoid unnecessary losses.

[pin_code]

The Iranians are not fools, I think they have studied the experience of the Japanese Kamikaze well.

[solar]

"hugging" the water at a height of 24 meters

Yes, the Su-24 was at an altitude of 24 meters, no more, no less. The author personally measured everything with a tape measure. How poetic! So poetic, it sounds more like an artistic whistle from the author. The supposedly unexploded bomb—exactly the same whistle; it's long been known that dummy bombs were there as part of the base's decor.

[Force]

Quote from solar

Yes, the Su-24 is at an altitude of 24 meters, no more, no less. The author personally measured everything with a tape measure. How poetic! So poetic, it sounds more like an artistic whistle from the author.

More like a wet dream

[Micha1981]

There were similar reports at the beginning, just that Iranian planes had launched strikes on Qatar.

[vitaliy20091959]

Doesn't the Su-24 have a terrain-following system? Flying over the sea (a calm sea, mind you) is something only American aces can do? Can Russian fighters do that too?

[solar]

Doesn't the Su-24 have a terrain following system?

Yes, exactly at an altitude of 24 meters, not a centimeter more. Not 23 or 25, but exactly 24. It's obvious—it's a Su-24, and the altitude is also 24, of course. The author measured it himself with a tape measure.
And so, there is RPS Relief on the Su-24.

[Victor Leningradets]

Yes, exactly at an altitude of 24 meters, not a centimeter more. Not 23 or 25, but exactly 24. It's obvious—it's a Su-24, and the altitude is also 24, of course. The author measured it himself with a tape measure.

24 meters is roughly 80 feet. The original article appears to use the imperial system of measurement. And 80 because it's below 100.

[rocket757]

Iran lacks modern aviation and effective electronic warfare systems to protect itself...

[Michael]

Quote: rocket757

Iran lacks modern aviation and effective electronic warfare systems to protect itself...

In the event of a massive Iranian attack, Israel and the US's missile defense and electronic warfare systems wouldn't be much help either. Attacking is always more effective, as Tyson would say!

[rocket757]

A complete, effective system for both defense and attack consists of several components that must complement each other, cover, and compensate for the weaknesses of individual components.

[Michael]

Quote: rocket757

A complete, effective system for both defense and attack consists of several components that must complement each other, cover, and compensate for the weaknesses of individual components.

This is precisely why the Soviet Union invested in and developed defenses against a disarming first strike and could destroy continents with a massive salvo of intercontinental missiles with thermonuclear warheads.
The United States, however, has developed first-strike and disarming strike weapons, so they have a priority in precision weapons.

[rocket757]

There's no point in arguing about the chosen concept of using strong arguments, because you won't know until you check... We can settle on the fact that no one dared to take the first step, and this gives hope that everything will remain the same...

[Michael]

Quote: rocket757

that no one dared to take the first step and this gives hope that everything will remain the same...

Well, yes, the series "Fallout" vulgarized everything, but "Power" still keeps everyone on the edge of their seats.

[isv000]

The US military's tactical command center in the port of Ash-Shweiba was destroyed.

The Yankees decided to settle in a village with that name. It looks like a pigsty there, if you think about it in German...

[Sancheas]

Holy shit! What did we do in the USSR? I'm still amazed, how? Guys, it's the 21st century, and here we have these 20th-century aborigines... How? How could our engineers do such a thing?

[Revolver]

Yes, the "logistics center"—in fact, an office—was bombed. The "valuable military equipment" included computers and other office equipment. Of course, six people is a significant loss for America, but compared to the costs, the effectiveness of the airstrike is meager. And the costs—two aircraft lost, four crew members lost. Considering the overall size of the Iranian air force, that's quite a significant loss. They don't count the number of people, of course, but pilots are a special case; their training, unlike that of meat, takes many years, and finding replacements right away is unrealistic.

[Victor Leningradets]

Of course, they don't count people, but pilots are a special case; their training, unlike that of meat, takes many years, and it's unrealistic to find a replacement right away.

From a military standpoint, the strike was useless, and the losses were negligible. Both the aircraft and the pilots had served their purpose—zero prospects. So at least they died in the attack, at least they had a PR effect!
And the very idea of ​​converting an old aircraft into an unmanned mode can effectively fire at a significant target in conditions of an overloaded air defense.

[Nemo70]

Two Iranian Su-24s (probably from Bushehr or Shiraz airbases) took off at dawn, clinging to the water at an altitude of 24 meters – below the level at which radars operate.

Our school!!! I don't know how to say it in Iranian, but eternal memory and may Allah protect them. They fulfilled their duty for the country and went into eternity. They were avenged and the US is screaming at full speed.

[seditious]

Is everything written here true? We need to require citations to all sources. If you write that the photographs show an unexploded bomb, please include the photograph and a link to its source in the article.

[semen-2]

Hello comrades!
Somehow I don't really believe this story.
Here's some interesting information about the training of Iranian Su-24 crews:
https://wm-t.livejournal.com/44342.html
https://wm-t.livejournal.com/44635.html
https://wm-t.livejournal.com/45030.html
https://wm-t.livejournal.com/45154.html

[don_Reba]

Quote: semen-2

Hello comrades!

🥱 Citizen Shimon…. LiveJournal has been blocked in Iran since either 2006 or 2009,
And eyewitnesses of the events are unlikely to write there.
Just for fun, give examples of crew training for the Ukrainian, USAIF, and Russian Aerospace Forces on LiveJournal on ANY aircraft (not just the Su-24)?
Huh?
I had to really screw up like that.

[AC130 Gunship]

I remembered the film "Matchmakers".
So it was a steamship, not a barge? - A real steamship. And it was sailing to America...

[don_Reba]

I'll share other people's thoughts (I've run out of mine)

Karaj B1 is not just a bridge, but an extradosed bridge. And it's important to remember that the word "bridge" is a typical hypernym, meaning in this case, it refers to any artificial structure spanning an obstacle (a river, a gorge).

The B1 is a hybrid of a beam and cable-stayed bridge, with massive pylons (plus tensioned cables—the stays). From a formal standpoint, it could simply be called a bridge, since there's even a river at the bottom of the gorge, but the B1's piers don't contact this river and aren't designed to withstand the load of water or ice drift. Moreover, the pylons themselves rise relatively low above the roadway, and the stays extend from them at a very shallow, more acute angle to the roadway—more acute, for example, than those of the Southern Bridge in Kyiv. This is because the stays of the B1 are more needed to increase the beam's bending rigidity (as if pulling more along the pylon), while the stays of the Southern Bridge in Kyiv effectively pull the spans UPWARDS, against the direction of gravity. This explains the high (135-meter) pylons and the angle at which the stays are attached to the roadway.

Thus, the specifics of attacking a bridge (or viaduct) are determined by its design. To collapse part of the B1 span into the ravine, the strike must be aimed precisely at the center of the span, compromising its structural integrity, as it is itself a load-bearing structure. The result is shown in the photographs. Carrying out such an operation requires high precision (a golden mean between the pylons) and an understanding of the structure's design.

To collapse the Southern Bridge span in Kyiv, you wouldn't have to hit the bridge deck, which would remain hanging with holes, but rather use laser-guided or TV-guided munitions to damage (destroy) at least one 135-meter pylon. In that case, the span would sink to the bottom of the Dnieper River forever under its own weight, because raising such a thing from there is a whole other story...

The conclusion is this: each type of structure (bridge, viaduct) requires its own precisely calibrated approach and ammunition, plus a clearly planned operation – the result is in the photos of BRIDGE B1, and in the photos of all bridges across the Dnieper.

Now it's time to vote.

🥱 But the VKS not only has the ancient, mammoth-like bones of the Su-24, but also the impenetrable Su-34

[Ball]

Quote: olegff68

They are still haunted by the laurels of the Su-24, which "scared the living daylights out" of the destroyer Arleigh Burke.

This was the newest (at the time of the events of 2014) American fourth-generation destroyer, the USS Donald Cook. The sailors, terrified, then went back to shore en masse and sought psychiatric help. Legal proceedings between the sailors and the US Navy are still ongoing, with the brave American sailors demanding compensation for their mental humiliation.

[maiman61]

I feel sorry for the pilots! But they accomplished their mission! It's a shame the bomb, delivered at the cost of the pilot's life, didn't explode! Only volunteers are sent on such missions.

[kig]

Podolyaka.ru and Military Informant:

An explanation has been found for the Soviet aerial bomb captured on camera near the destroyed command post at an American base. In the aftermath photo, the bomb didn't initially appear to have been dropped from an aircraft. And it turns out the Americans are using demilitarized aerial bombs as decoration at their bases in the Middle East.

This 2021 photo shows an example of such a specific decoration on the territory of an American military facility in the port of Shuaiba in Kuwait, where Iranian drones will land in 2026 and kill six US soldiers.

[Snoop]

I feel sorry for the pilots who flew the Su-24...they were simply heroes.

[ork_333]

Quote: eugen_caro

I think your pilots, if they had their way, would fly... but the Persian generals, and yours, are like day and night... by the way. And I think the Orc missiles can reach Ust-Luga and further, in part because the remaining A-50s don't control the skies, but are grounded ("just in case they get shot down").... But they could give targeting instructions to fighter aircraft to destroy these missiles... and that's also someone's order...

What's with this fountain of thoughts and uncontrolled punctuation? Never try to write a comment after drinking alcohol. Reread your writing today and shudder soberly.

[pin_code]

This is what it means to be made according to the "correct GOST", the Soviet way!!! The hucksters' GOSTs don't even come close.

[Grancer81]

Well, these are just fairy tales...

[Dost]

It's a beautiful plane. A very beautiful one. You admire it compared to the 34.

[vfwfr]

For its intended purpose (S. Nikolai Anisimov)
""CHORUS:
We do here what we have learned over the years in classes and training.
The bourgeoisie were against it, but it happened - we are in business for our intended purpose."

P.S. As I understand it, the SU-24 was in action for its intended purpose... (That's what it was created for, only the theater of operations was not in the West, but much further south...)

[Ed Mac]

Did an aircraft designed in the 70s cope well with modern American technology?
And if a drone is created on its basis, will America and Israel calm down?