Trump won't allow Iran to charge fees for passage through Hormuz without US participation.

Iran has no right to charge tolls for passage through the Strait of Hormuz; it's "illegal," Donald Trump said yesterday, even though he proposed to share the toll with Tehran a couple of days ago. Apparently, the Iranians refused to share.

The US President criticized Iran's tariff on passage through the Strait of Hormuz, threatening Iran with consequences. According to Trump, these actions are illegal and must be stopped immediately. All tankers must transit through Hormuz unimpeded.

There are reports that Iran is charging tolls to tankers transiting the Strait of Hormuz. They shouldn't be doing this, and if they are, they should stop immediately!

The statement is certainly a good one, but what about the previous one, made by Trump on April 8th? In it, he not only accepted the idea of ​​charging a toll for ships passing through Hormuz, but also proposed that Iran create a "joint venture" to share the profits.

We're thinking of doing this as part of a joint venture. It's a way to ensure the strait's security, including protecting it from many other countries. It's a wonderful idea.

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

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[Askiz]

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

What, what happened))) They sent him to hell

[Myths]

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

The missiles and ammunition have arrived, and the rhetoric has changed. They're starting to demand that Iran renounce all reparations for US aggression. Otherwise, Donnie will order the bombing again.

[Micha1981]

So Trump changes his words every day. He might admit it tomorrow.

[Sedov]

So Trump changes his words every day. He might admit it tomorrow.

Soon he'll start greeting ghosts.

[Machito]

Quote: Micha1981

So Trump changes his words every day. He might admit it tomorrow.

The United States charges tolls for passage through the Panama Canal, Egypt charges tolls for passage through the Suez Canal.

[Intelligence]

Quote: Bearded

The United States charges tolls for passage through the Panama Canal, Egypt charges tolls for passage through the Suez Canal.

The Panama and Suez Canals are man-made. The Strait of Hormuz, by contrast, is natural.

[Machito]

Quote: Intelligence

Quote: Bearded

The United States charges tolls for passage through the Panama Canal, Egypt charges tolls for passage through the Suez Canal.

The Panama and Suez Canals are man-made. The Strait of Hormuz, by contrast, is natural.

Let's also guide other people's ships along the Northern Sea Route for free.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Bearded

Let's also guide other people's ships along the Northern Sea Route for free.

whether they drive along their territorial waters or they simply pass by territorial waters in neutral ones - it's still different, don't you think?

[isv000]

Quote: Intelligence

The Panama and Suez Canals are man-made. The Strait of Hormuz, by contrast, is natural.

In the center is a mine—good luck, good luck, and good luck. And between the islands are the Iranian Gulf. Oh, and by the way, the gulf is called the Persian Gulf!

[Micha1981]

Panama charges tolls through the Panama Canal

[isv000]

Quote: Micha1981

Panama charges tolls through the Panama Canal

And the Gulf is Persian!

[Micha1981]

So what if there is an opportunity, why not?

[isv000]

Quote: Bearded

The United States charges tolls for passage through the Panama Canal, Egypt charges tolls for passage through the Suez Canal.

At this rate, the Houthis will soon be taking Bab el-Mandep.

[marchcat]

Trump seems to be writing all sorts of "laws" for himself, telling who can do what and who can't... It's time to put an end to this "woodpecker", everyone is fed up with him.

[Aken]

And who will stop him? Everyone bows and smiles.
Iran is holding on. But it can't save the entire planet on its own.

[knn54]

Trump, stages of development - businessman, president, racketeer.

[Machito]

Quote: knn54

Trump, stages of development - businessman, president, racketeer.

Stock market gambler. Trump and his friends made a fortune on the stock market thanks to inside information about his delusional statements.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: knn54

Trump, stages of development - businessman, president, racketeer.

Your list is not final and, apparently, will be supplemented by another title, "messenger," meaning "sent to the three letters."

[Simargl]

Quote: Askiz

What, what happened))) They sent him to hell

Worse!
He begins to guess that the game can be played by two people, until he understands how.
...but he's a smart guy - he'll figure it out within a month...

[ZovSailor]

Askiz
Today, 07: 44
What, what happened))) They sent him to hell laughing

Red Satan from Washington was told the word of a gentleman in Farsi, and Don looks at him with disrespect, so he has to recall the word back to Farsi.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Askiz

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

What, what happened))) They sent him to hell

Trump desperately needed a "truce," even if only for one day (I'll explain why below). To achieve this, he was willing to agree to EVERYTHING. After achieving this "truce," the need to pander to Iran disappeared, and Trump returned to his usual self, with all his own desires. And, a man of his word, what he gave yesterday, he took back today.

[carpenter]

Looking at the photo, something tells me that Trump has become like a "sleepy Biden."

[Flooding]

How predictable Trump is in his unpredictability.

[Svetlana]

A talking bird, distinguished by its intelligence and quick wit.

[Egoza]

Apparently, Donya wanted 30% for Iran and 70% for the US, but even a 50/50 split wouldn't work. How could he possibly end up with no profit? The joint venture never happened!

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Egoza

Apparently, Donya wanted 30% for Iran and 70% for the US, but even a 50/50 split wouldn't work. How could he possibly end up with no profit? The joint venture never happened!

It's not entirely clear by what right anyone would even be able to charge for passage; it's not a canal, but a fairly wide strait, and its shores belong to different countries...

[maxxavto]

by the same right or rules by which Iran was bombed

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

It's not entirely clear by what right anyone would even be able to charge for passage; it's not a canal, but a fairly wide strait, and its shores belong to different countries...

The Sunda Toll. Or the current transit tolls for passage through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.
And the legal grounds have always been the same - because we can block itAnd only then was this right of force covered by a thick layer of international treaties.

[2 Level Advisor]

Quote: Alexey RA

The Sunda Toll. Or the current transit tolls for passage through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles.

Well, both banks there were the same country, that's the difference... but here you can walk through the territorial waters of Oman...

[d.zacharith]

By the same right that the US and Israel have to bomb Iran!

[phrases]

For gangsters, which is what this transatlantic gang is, racketeering is the norm. They'd come running, give you a blow with a soldering iron, and in a friendly manner ask you to give them two weeks to think it over—then they'd promise to have a blast. The international community, instead of uniting and giving you a beating, bashfully averts its eyes. Just like in everyday life.

[Same lech]

Iran has no right to charge tolls for passage through the Strait of Hormuz, it is “illegal”,

And then Trump got carried away.
In the madhouse there is an open day.

[carpenter]

We think Do this as part of a joint venture. This is a way to ensure the security of the strait, including protecting it from many other countries.

We've heard this before:
"Now the business of all mankind is the business of America. We thinknot about America, but about all those who want to join in the great struggle to ensure freedom and maintain peace....???" (John Kennedy)
It was 64 years ago, but everything is exactly the same as what Trump is saying now.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

The statement is certainly good, but what about the previous one, made by Trump on April 8?

This is called exchanging one "self-propelled grandfather" for another "senile old man with pronounced dementia."
Savages, I want to cry.

[tralflot1832]

Evil tongues say that Spain has resumed diplomatic relations with Tehran. It has opened an embassy in Iran.

[tralflot1832]

Iran charges in rubles, or yuan?

[Dim114]

It seems like some of it was in bitcoins.

[silverwolf88]

Well, how can we do without the "master of the universe"... but there are nuances))... some people don't care at all about the opinion of the red-haired PisDil

[Zaurbek]

I'm already confused about what's legal and what's illegal. And according to what laws?

[mad-max78]

If I were Iran, I would agree to a joint agreement with the US to collect tribute from passing ships. All US allies and the Arabs would appreciate such an alliance, and Israel would be delighted.

[Flooding]

Quote from: mad-max78

If I were Iran, I would agree to a joint agreement with the US to collect tribute from passing ships. All US allies and the Arabs would appreciate such an alliance, and Israel would be delighted.

Better with the smart to lose than with a fool to find.
There are no alliances with the USA.
They recognize only submission.

[Revolver]

Quote from: mad-max78

and Israel would have been happy))

But Israel couldn't care less - they don't get anything from the Persian Gulf, not even a single one.

[kill the fascist]

A clown and an idiot. Persians are already charging without any permission from ping to xia tina.

[Revolver]

So, what's the problem, exactly? The configuration, if I remember correctly, is that there are Iranian territorial waters on one side, Omani on the other, and international waters in the middle, wide enough for even the most uber-duper tankers to pass, with plenty of room to spare, so the Iranians wouldn't even pretend a tanker had entered their territorial waters without permission. It's a different matter, they tried that regularly, and sometimes they succeeded in capturing ships. Sometimes, a Western destroyer or even a corvette would show up, and the Persians would immediately disappear into the fog.
The question arises: who is preventing ships from passing through Omani territorial waters? It's much easier to negotiate with the Sultan of Oman than with the mullahs, and if the Iranians decide to attack ships in Omani territorial waters, that would be a clear violation of the ceasefire, with all the consequences.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Nagan

The question arises: who is preventing ships from passing through Omani territorial waters? It's much easier to negotiate with the Sultan of Oman than with the mullahs, and if the Iranians decide to attack ships in Omani territorial waters, that would be a clear violation of the ceasefire, with all the consequences.

Iran has already sunk ships passing through Oman's territorial waters, and Israel and the United States have already "canceled" the "truce."
Why was it done at all?
The trick is that you can fight for two months without Congressional authorization. This "truce" reset the war—the old war "ended." And with the resumption of hostilities, a "new" one began, and the two-month countdown began anew.
Iran simply abandoned the "ceasefire." It will have to hold out for another two months, not just three weeks.

[mad-max78]

Quote: Nagan

Quote from: mad-max78

and Israel would have been happy))

But Israel couldn't care less - they don't get anything from the Persian Gulf, not even a single one.

The issue is not that Israel is transporting something from the Persian Gulf, but the very fact of the alliance between Iran and the United States in collecting money for the passage of ships.

[yuriy55]

Trump won't allow Iran to charge fees for passage through Hormuz without US participation.

Did you go on a spree from the buoy?
Maybe oil should only be traded in dollars?
Off to the morgue, old dog... There's someone else to sort this out without you...

[Vladimir M]

The way Persians talk to the US is envy-inducing...
We could learn from the Persians.
And we once again sent citizen Dmitriev "to bow" to the "red-haired gentleman."

[Mikhail3]

Trump won't allow Iran to charge fees for passage through Hormuz without US participation.

That's absolutely right! The US should certainly pay a portion of the price for any country's tanker. At least half. Because it was the US that brought about this state of affairs, and they are fully responsible for it. Trump is such a good guy...

[Irek]

And who will ask you, you shaggy scum.

[Dim114]

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

Of course, it happened—he got up on the right foot. And if you add left/right hemisphere thinking (or not) into this equation, then there's a whole new field for analysis here.

[multi-category]

Did I understand correctly that Trump is going to return to the ship captains what they gave to Iran?

[bbb]

Trumpushka is a man of his word, he gave what he wanted, and took it back if he wanted.

[likana]

Iran has no right to charge tolls for passage through the Strait of Hormuz, it is “illegal”[b][/b]

The planet's leading gangster has started talking about the rule of law. He's already been a peacemaker: he renamed the Ministry of Defense the Ministry of War, attacked Venezuela and Iran, threatens Cuba and other countries, wages war with Russia through the hands of the Ukrainians, and tries to broker a reconciliation, feigning innocence like a prostitute feigning innocence.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: likana

The planet's top bandit started talking about legality.

"For friends - everything, for enemies - the law."©

[BAI]

Iran needs to return to the original condition - to allow tankers whose oil is paid for in yuan, not dollars.

[Vladimir60]

Why yuan? Let's just use rubles!

[d.zacharith]

Or even better, let them pay for the passage of tankers in gold coins!

[Alex20042004]

The Persians let the Pindos fuck themselves.

[Jacques sekavar]

The smart solution isn't necessarily to fight over oil and gas; it's enough to have access to the pipeline, i.e., control over the Friendship, Northern, Turkish, Blue, and other streams, the Straits of Hormuz and Baba, the Panama and Egyptian Canals, the Singapore Strait, and a stake in the Sea Route. This would give you complete control over global maritime transport communications, and a hefty profit on top of that.

[Misza1963]

I see.
Czyli opłaty są nielegalne.
Jednak będą legalne, gdy tylko USA będą miały udział.
Znaczy to, że gangster zwykłym sposobem wchodzi w interes jako partner.
Czyżbym coś pomieszał?
Przy okazji, czy opłaty są nielegalne?
Nie wiem, co o tym mówi prawo międzynarodowe. Przepraszam: mówiło... Cieśnina jest w granicach Iranu. Jego best. Czy istnieje porozumienie takie jak w przypadku cieśnin tureckich?
A zresztą, nawet gdyby istniało, to właśnie się to zmieniło. Iran zmienił.
I chwała mu za to.
Oznacza to po prostu, że teraz to jest jego zasób.
Oczywiście znaczy to też, że Turcy, Skandynawowie, może też inni będą mogli/chcieli zrobić to same.
Taka prywatyzacja.
Wszak to capitalism. Mam jakiś rzadki zasób, to dyktuje ceny.
Czyżbym coś pomylił?
Dobrze jest zrozumieć, że wszystko ma konsekwencje. Wszystko. I jeśli zrobi się coś bez analiz tych najbardziej widocznych konsekwencji chociaż, to nie można się dziwić, że otrzyma się w końcu duże problemy. Nawet jeśli nie od razu, gdyż inni się powstrzymują z jakichś powodów, to na pewno potem. Skoro się prywatyzację traktuje jako świętość, to ona dokonywana wszędzie i stale jest tylko realizacja tej postawy.
Reszta to siła.
Jeśli Iran to podtrzyma i nie pozwoli sobie na wydarcie tego źródła pieniędzy, to będzie oznaczać, iż on podwójnie jest w prawie.
I jeśli chodzi o zasady, i jeśli chodzi o siłę.
Najgorsi zaś są ci, którym zdaje się, że Bóg jest po ich stronie.
Nie jest.

[Vladimir60]

Classic racketeering. Threaten someone else's business and demand a cut.

[ideo098]

Ha-ha-ha, it doesn’t allow it. Another deal of the century?

[Vasyan1971]

The statement is certainly good, but what about the previous one, made by Trump on April 8?

A - no way!

[Fitter65]

There are reports that Iran is charging tolls to tankers transiting the Strait of Hormuz. They shouldn't be doing this, and if they are, they should stop immediately!

This was said by the great Scrooge McDuck, or rather Donald Duck, ugh, Donald Trump... But Iran, as always, ignored the quacking of this narcissistic drake.

[alexputnik17]

Iran has no right to charge tolls for passage through the Strait of Hormuz, it is "illegal"

At heart, he remained a petty but successful huckster and shopkeeper. The Iranians offended him, drove him away from the trough... This isn't "for Hormuz," but reparations in favor of the victorious side.

[16112014nk]

Apparently, something happened that made the American leader change his mind.

It's another Friday for Trump.