If the MC-130s were stuck in Iran's soil, how did they end up nearby: more inconsistencies

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If the MC-130s were stuck in Iran's soil, how did they end up nearby: more inconsistencies

The release of footage from the site that the US is reporting as the evacuation site of the rescued F-15E pilot provides further reason to ask: was everything exactly as the US command reports?

Let us recall that, according to the official version, the US Air Force aircraft that delivered more than a hundred special forces to an improvised ("abandoned") airfield in Isfahan province were unable to return because they "were overloaded and got stuck in the ground." According to the official version, to prevent the MC-130 military transport aircraft, as well as helicopters (including MH-6s) "with expensive equipment" from falling into Iranian hands, all means were used. aviation They decided to bomb it right on the runway.



This photo shows what remains of two US Air Force military transport aircraft. It would seem that a fire is just a fire, debris is just debris, if it's burned, it's burned.

However, what remains of the transport aircraft eloquently characterizes their "pre-strike" configuration. The aircraft were very close to each other. And this is absolutely not a case of a blast wave suddenly throwing one multi-ton transport aircraft hundreds of meters toward another aircraft, while preserving the structural contours of both aircraft (the axes of the aircraft, the contours of the engines on the wings, the axes of the wings themselves, and the tail section of one of the MC-130s are shown). This would have been physically impossible. And here, the distance between the aircraft is suddenly less than 10 meters.

If the planes were initially so close to each other, it means either they never intended to take off and could have been destroyed immediately after landing and taxiing, or they attempted to take off but ended up interfering with each other, sustaining critical damage. Both scenarios are viable. However, the underlying scenarios are different.

Based on the first case, the pilots could have received orders to "group" military equipment for a more focused subsequent air strike against it. At the very least, to reduce missiles Spend less money and conduct fewer aircraft and drone sorties. And if that was the plan, it follows that no special forces had any intention of returning to base on these aircraft after a "successful search for the downed pilot." Accordingly, these special forces could very well remain in Iran today—for the purposes Trump has defined as "the destruction of civilization." Perhaps this explains the US president's complete reluctance to share secret plans even with his NATO allies. As a reminder, Trump recently declared his unwillingness to answer Merz's inquiries about his plans, lest he "leak everything."

If the second option is the case, then the US simply won't admit that the operation didn't go according to plan, and that the planes had to be destroyed not because they got stuck in the ground, but because of a simple mistake by the pilots "on the ground," which prevented the special forces from taking off "on the first try."

And the Pentagon and the White House still haven't shown any footage of the rescued pilot. That's clearly not their media style.
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  1. +4
    April 7 2026 18: 10
    I couldn't... because these aren't Hollywood fairy tales, but realities on earth, in the sky, and at sea... soldier
    1. +2
      April 7 2026 18: 21
      Hollywood needs to learn from Banderwood, where the imagination can take flight laughing
      1. +3
        April 7 2026 18: 28
        Their center of "power and inspiration" is, if not one, then somewhere nearby.
        1. +8
          April 7 2026 20: 23
          This is very reminiscent of the Carter-era Special Forces disaster. What an utter disgrace. Also, the Iranians found charred corpses in the rubble. It doesn't quite add up, like they did it on purpose... And Trump went completely berserk after that.
          1. +1
            April 7 2026 20: 44
            And when did everything work out for them, like in the movies?
            Only when a donkey with a bag of gold walked ahead...
            Although, we don’t know everything... there’s enough that everyone keeps quiet about.
          2. +3
            April 7 2026 21: 44
            Quote: hrych
            This is very reminiscent of the Carter-era special forces disaster.

            Trump was just about to attack, and I was already expecting a repeat of the epic fail.
            It's just like that time: two planes collided. They had to burn both. Iran is a cursed place for dominators.
            1. +3
              April 8 2026 02: 31
              A total of 10 aircraft were lost during a single rescue operation for a single pilot... It's simply a celebration of madness and courage. One plane probably skidded during takeoff (or landing) on ​​the sand... it's all a classic story and definitely demands a film adaptation.
              Quote: Alex777
              Iran is a cursed place for dominators.

              That's right .
              1. 0
                Yesterday, 15: 55
                Quote: bayard
                In total, 10 aircraft were lost during a single rescue operation involving one pilot...

                There's speculation that the pilots' rescue was a cover for an operation to attempt to seize Iranian uranium. Two C-130s for two pilots is a bit much.
                If it had worked, Tamp could have ended the war on horseback. This also explains why he disappeared for three days. He had high hopes for the operation's success.
                But the attempt failed, and the failure was covered up as a successful rescue operation for the pilots, who were never seen again.
                Yesterday, Bagdasarov said that the Kurdish tribes, whom the Yankees had supposedly counted on to help them, had beaten the specialists. A complete failure.
  2. +4
    April 7 2026 18: 11
    The US simply refuses to admit that the operation did not go according to plan.
    Standard American "something went wrong at some point."
    They don't think it's necessary to explain anything else to anyone. CNN and Hollywood will explain everything they don't understand.
    1. +2
      April 7 2026 18: 46
      It's like a joke among "hardened" scientists - if something goes wrong, you have to pretend with a thoughtful (mysterious) face that it was intended that way. laughing
      1. +2
        April 7 2026 23: 44
        Quote: Deadush
        It's like a joke among "hardened" scientists - if something goes wrong, you have to pretend with a thoughtful (mysterious) face that it was intended that way. laughing

        You especially need to act smart when the client, who's giving you the money but has little understanding of the matter, is standing behind you and asking, "What made that boom?" (c) It takes a special skill to explain that it was all planned that way. And Trump has such "clients"—330 million behind him...
    2. +3
      April 7 2026 20: 34
      If everything had gone according to plan, we would have already seen footage of the rescued pilot being awarded a medal. A red-haired narcissist wouldn't have missed such an opportunity. But for now, all we've seen are images of burned-out planes.
      1. +1
        April 8 2026 00: 13
        Quote from lako
        If everything had gone according to plan, we would have already seen footage of the rescued pilot being awarded a medal. A red-haired narcissist wouldn't have missed such an opportunity. But for now, all we've seen are images of burned-out planes.

        In Yugoslavia, they showed the rescued pilot before he even realized he'd been rescued—on a stretcher, on an IV. Because they needed to brag right away. But here...
        Therefore, you are absolutely right.
        Yes, and one more thing - why were hundreds of flying vehicles, almost half of which were flying tankers, used to rescue the pilot?
        My opinion is that they wanted to surprise the world with something completely different, but they screwed up. They had to at least somehow justify it – they were rescuing the pilot...
  3. +8
    April 7 2026 18: 14
    The Americans are lying like pigs. Why the Iranians, having acquired so much hardware, aren't making any statements is beyond me. And no one's showing the Rock Climber pilot. Maybe a completely different operation is actually underway? Are the Americans looking for uranium, and the Iranians looking for the Americans? winked
    1. +5
      April 7 2026 19: 33
      There are other reconstructions of what happened, but unfortunately they do not clearly explain the mechanism of the formation of this fire.
      1. +4
        April 7 2026 19: 36
        P.S. They gathered in a group at the end of the runway. However, what happened to the one marked with the yellow arrow is unclear. What's he worth, such a ragtag wreck? Perhaps he skidded at the end of the run?
        1. +2
          April 7 2026 20: 00
          Quote: TermNachTER
          P.S. They gathered in a group at the end of the runway. However, what happened to the one marked with the yellow arrow is unclear. What's he worth, such a ragtag wreck? Perhaps he skidded at the end of the run?

          In my opinion, he tried to turn around, but apparently got stuck and blocked the path of the second plane. This seems to be the case in the third picture, and right before the second plane landed.
          1. +2
            April 7 2026 20: 19
            Judging by the size of the runway, there's no reason for two people to be there. Why did the second plane begin landing without waiting for information from the first? Or, the second plane was making an emergency landing and didn't care anymore.
            1. +3
              April 7 2026 20: 42
              Perhaps the information from the first one was: like, I'm already turning around, you can land. And it's also quite possible they were in a hurry: circling over enemy territory and waiting for the first one to turn around completely was probably dangerous.
              1. +2
                April 7 2026 20: 54
                I completely support your conclusions.
                I had to run and do it quickly, as quickly as possible. It didn't work out.
      2. 0
        April 7 2026 20: 30
        I would say that everything is clear wassat A typical accident. I tailgated a yellow car, and the red car spun around. The red car couldn't brake in time...
      3. +1
        April 7 2026 20: 34
        Are there coordinates for this runway? I'd like to estimate its length.
        1. +1
          April 7 2026 21: 18
          I'll have to look, it was somewhere. But off the top of my head, they said it was 40 km south of Isfahan.
          1. +1
            April 7 2026 21: 25
            In the previous thread, they posted a map, but I looked on Google Maps and instead of the GDP, I saw some town or a large warehouse in the indicated location.
            32.236080, 51.807153
            somewhere here
            1. 0
              April 7 2026 21: 36
              Here's what's in "X." Andrey Tralflot posted a photo of some buildings on the horizon.
              1. 0
                April 7 2026 21: 47
                по 32°15'20.2"N 51°54'06.9"E
                fields and no takeoff
                1. +1
                  April 7 2026 21: 54
                  Well, the takeoff is most likely a field one, like our agricultural aviation one, and an abandoned one at that.
                  1. 0
                    April 7 2026 22: 03
                    On "X", "Chinese Pulse" the video is almost a minute long, from all angles.
  4. + 10
    April 7 2026 18: 23
    The Americans didn't show anyone, and Iran didn't show any enemy corpses either. It's still unclear.
    1. +1
      April 7 2026 20: 37
      Quote: Fan-Fan
      The Americans didn't show anyone, and Iran didn't show any enemy corpses either. It's still unclear.

      The most important thing is that no one has yet seen the F-15's second pilot seat. The Iranians found and showed the first seat. If they had found the second seat, they would have shown that too. And if there's no seat, the likelihood that anyone other than jackals found the second pilot is close to zero.
  5. -4
    April 7 2026 18: 23
    What difference does it make how and what they did there? Is there even one American corpse? A pilot or a special forces soldier?
    All they could find and show were underwear with the US flag. It was truly a botched operation, to say the least. request
  6. +2
    April 7 2026 18: 37
    They say there were four MH-6 Little Bird mini-helicopters inside the two planes. The plan was to pick up the pilots with the helicopters and return. But the planes couldn't take off from the unpaved road. So two more Kukuruzniks were deployed, which took everyone away, and the two planes and four helicopters had to be destroyed because the planes couldn't take off and the helicopters didn't have sufficient range.
    1. +4
      April 7 2026 18: 52
      Quote: Totor5
      MH-6 Little Bird

      Their range is about 450 km. From the Zagros Mountains, where that "abandoned" airfield is located, to the border (with Iraq) is no more than 280 km. What range did they need?
      Second: what exactly caused the military transport planes to end up 10 meters apart if they couldn't take off? Did they even try? They could have abandoned those helicopters and taken off without them.
      1. +2
        April 7 2026 20: 38
        Do you think all the crews would fit in these mini helicopters? And who knows how much fuel they'll have and how long it'll last in these desert and mountain conditions?
        1. +2
          April 7 2026 21: 37
          Quote: Totor5
          Do you think all the crews would fit in these mini helicopters?

          Well, someone would have fit in anyway.
          Quote: Totor5
          And how can we know how much fuel there is and how long it will last in the specific conditions of deserts and mountains.

          Again, if there had been a fuel shortage or something like that, they could have left those helicopters behind, destroyed them, softening the MC-130 transports' takeoff parameters, and escaped safely. But they didn't do that, destroying everything.
          1. -1
            April 8 2026 00: 02
            Like they came for one pilot and left behind a couple dozen? What's the point?
            Large planes could not take off due to the condition of the runway.
            Everyone got into the Cornfields and everyone flew away.
            What they were actually doing there is questionable, but the fact is that the planes couldn't take off, and the helicopters simply couldn't reach their destination. This doesn't contradict logic or the facts.
  7. +2
    April 7 2026 18: 59
    These are far from all the oddities. For example, someone leaked classified information to the media about a search and rescue operation for the downed F-15 crew. That's where the Persians even learned about it. This significantly complicated the operation, forcing combat aircraft to be diverted from scheduled missions to strike Iranian search teams attempting to locate and capture the missing crew member.
    1. +3
      April 7 2026 22: 09
      What's the secret? That the mattress makers never searched for their downed pilots?
  8. +7
    April 7 2026 19: 02
    And if such a plan existed, it follows that a priori no special forces had any intention of returning to base on these aircraft after a "successful search for the downed pilot." Consequently, these special forces could very well remain in Iran today—for the purposes Trump has defined as "the destruction of civilization."

    In an interview with Scott Ritter:
    Initially, this entire crowd had come to steal radioactive materials from Isfahan, Iran's enrichment center. The colonel they were searching for and rescuing was the Air Force coordinator of the operation. When he was landed, the entire operation was reclassified as a rescue, as he knew so much, and there was no way he could fall into Iranian hands.
    By the time he was found and rescued, too much attention and Iranian forces and resources had already been drawn to the area, so any further attempts to steal fissile materials from Isfahan would have been futile and doomed to failure and the loss of a large number of special forces.
    The planes were crowded together because they were trying to turn at the far end of the runway; otherwise, they weren't getting enough acceleration. One plane's nose gear sank into the wet ground, which no one suspected. The Jews had used it last June, and back then, it was dry and rock-hard. Now it was April, and the soil had less bearing capacity.
    They evacuated everyone on smaller planes. The helicopters were burned because of their short range, and there was no way to refuel them, as they had arrived there on planes and were supposed to be evacuated the same way. They burned everything because of the supposedly secret equipment, specifically for handling radioactive materials, and to keep it out of reach.
    That's roughly how I heard and understood it.
    1. +1
      April 7 2026 19: 51
      It's one thing to run through the mountains looking for a flyer, but quite another to go underground where they're waiting for you.
  9. -1
    April 7 2026 19: 39
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    The Americans didn't show anyone, and Iran didn't show any enemy corpses either. It's still unclear.

    I read that bones burn at temperatures above 700 Celsius. Maybe it was hotter there? Aluminum, fuel, titanium... feel
  10. -1
    April 7 2026 19: 59
    It's all so primitive! Just like with Macron's "wife." laughing They saved the pilot, held a press conference, and everything was clear. But no... And so the macronymph has been suing for years for her "virginity." laughing Clowns ....
  11. +3
    April 7 2026 20: 58
    Quote: TermNachTER
    P.S. They gathered in a group at the end of the runway. However, what happened to the one marked with the yellow arrow is unclear. What's he worth, such a ragtag wreck? Perhaps he skidded at the end of the run?

    Nikolai, don't thank me. What's on the horizon? bully
    1. +1
      April 7 2026 21: 22
      Thanks, Andrey, the photos are interesting. Are there any buildings on the horizon?
  12. +1
    April 7 2026 21: 35
    Quote: TermNachTER
    Thanks, Andrey, the photos are interesting. Are there any buildings on the horizon?

    Yes, buildings, photo of the dump site of American "flyers" (by an Iranian) in the English Guardian. Today.
    1. +3
      April 7 2026 21: 52
      And who in their right mind would decide to make a jumping platform in full view of the enemy?
      Planes only land in places like this out of dire need!
  13. +1
    April 8 2026 06: 59
    then the question is - how did the crews leave this place?
  14. 0
    April 8 2026 15: 29
    In the North Caucasus in 2000, the Russian Armed Forces used the following trick:
    1. A group of MTLBvs with infantry on armor proceeded into the mountains.
    2. In the area restricted for observation, three search groups emerged from the MTLBv landing compartment and went into the mountains.
    3.MTLBv returned to base camp with the same number of infantry on armor.
    4. Search teams eliminated the leader of the militants and evacuated from the search without losses.

    Perhaps this is a similar scenario. They could plant a special "Yadren-Baton" explosive device and blame it on Iran. We'll see.
  15. 0
    April 8 2026 15: 33
    Actually, they're not obligated to tell everything as it happened; these are combat sorties, a special operation. Quite the contrary, they should obfuscate as much as possible, and that's right. So why are people so self-conscious? Things didn't go according to plan for the mattress makers this time; what can you do?