What is actually happening in Afghanistan, as the entire democratic press is silent

In Afghanistan, NATO and US troops engage in combat with the Mujahideen every day, suffer losses, the Mujahideen control almost 75% of the country’s territory.

Western media prefer to avoid all this silence.
Watch a documentary video shot during an attack on an army convoy and you will see how Mujahideen behave freely, they fight almost without disguise, even caused by aviation they are not very scared.

Comments

[Prokop]

It’s a sin, of course, to rejoice at the death of people and sympathy for the Afghan Mujahiddin, I don’t drink, but America and its sixes brewed this Afghan porridge for us, so now let it itself stew with a full spoon, Bon appetit!

[Hudo]

I also do not sympathize with the Mujahideen from the Taliban, nevertheless, let them continue to beat the democratizers in full. The Taliban and MANPADS would not have hindered mines, weapons and ammunition so that the pind0s and their lackeys felt at least slightly the way our guys felt in the 80s, when caravans from "democratic countries" were flowing to Afghanistan in a continuous stream and Western journalists were fun " "they were filming how our columns were being hollowed out, our wounded were being finished off ...

[Uhalus]

Well, once the tame rats began to rush at the owners ... For what they fought - they ran into it!

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: fortuneophile

So, Mishiko pays meat for joining NATO.

Mishiko doesn't give a damn about people's lives! and not Mishiko pays but the Georgian people! oh yes I know that you will not see Gruzinov but by politeness with the dead!

[fortunophile]

Quote: GEOKING95

oh yes I know that you will not see Gruzinov but by politeness with the dead!

I have comrades Georgians, quite worthy people, although among them there is someone who supports Mishiko, he even sounded an argument once - he (Mishiko) in Tbilisi put a policeman at each tree and kept green spaces, otherwise he would have been worn out for firewood. I am not an enemy of the Georgians, I understand your problems (here the EBN has done no less), I wish to get out of the "throwing course search" and to grow stronger and live well, but the peacekeepers who died will never disappear from the memory of Russians.
I re-read my post, if you are talking about it

I am pleased when two enemies clung to each other and only shreds fly

it’s about NATO.

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: fortuneophile

I have comrades Georgians, quite worthy people, although among them there is someone who supports Mishiko, he even sounded an argument once - he (Mishiko) in Tbilisi put a policeman at each tree and kept green spaces, otherwise he would have been worn out for firewood. I am not an enemy of the Georgians, I understand your problems (here the EBN has done no less), I wish to get out of the "throwing course search" and to grow stronger and live well, but the peacekeepers who died will never disappear from the memory of Russians.

sorry for my hasty verdict
and I wish you all the best!

Quote: fortuneophile

but peacekeepers who died all the same will never disappear from the memory of the Russians.

and this is correct! Well, among Georgians, too, 90 and 2008 will not disappear from memory! Everyone has their own tragedy, and in all wars, good and bad people die,

[fortunophile]

Quote: GEOKING95

sorry for my hasty verdict

It's okay, I'm not touchy. In addition, I understand that I myself made the wrong comment, posting information about the death of Georgian servicemen, and then I was glad that the "scraps are flying" is my own fault for which I get Last summer I went to Georgia with a local friend in a car. Unforgettable sensations, met well, just no words. They didn’t talk about politics, it was not up to it

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: fortuneophile

Last summer I went to Georgia with a local friend in a car. Unforgettable sensations, met well, just no words. They didn’t talk about politics, it was not up to it

politics is a dirty thing) but politics cannot destroy friendship

[Canep]

In neither in Russia nor in Kazakhstan as a whole there is no hatred of Georgians, there is a misunderstanding of Saakashvili’s policies, and contempt for him.

[Siberian German]

this is understandable, but why did you then vote for a dirty politician if friendship was still

[Victor]

Quote: GEOKING95

Well, the Georgians also will not disappear from the memory of the 90th and 2008! Everyone has their own tragedy, and in all wars, good and bad people die,

But in no country of the former USSR, monuments of the Great Patriotic War except Georgia were blown up, even the Balts did not go for it, they simply moved the Bronze Soldier to the cemetery of Russian (Soviet) soldiers. Only in Georgia did people commit such abuse. And only Georgia shot Grads of sleeping people. Remember yours, and we will never forget the blood of innocent people and the violation of our common memory.

[Mikhail3]

Do not come to a foreign land with weapons if you want politeness. Oh, magnificent one ...

[Grey74]

Why should we hate the Georgian people? in any family, not without a freak

[Old skeptic]

The only question is the number of freaks.

[scrack]

Mishiko himself will also get it. I am sure that justice will be restored

[Atlon]

Quote: GEOKING95

oh yes I know that you will not see Gruzinov

Have you heard a lot of Georgian propaganda? Or the State Department? Who told you such nonsense that Russians hate Georgians ??? Hatred is a strong feeling! Georgians, at least, are not interesting to us. You have chosen your path, so go along it. Without us...

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Atlon

Have you heard a lot of Georgian propaganda? Or the State Department?

no

Quote: Atlon

Who told you such nonsense that Russians hate Georgians ???

did I say that somewhere?

Quote: Atlon

Georgians, at least, are not interesting to us. You have chosen your path, so go along it. Without us...

))

[Atlon]

Quote: GEOKING95

did I say that somewhere?

Quote: GEOKING95

oh yes I know that you will not see Gruzinov

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: Atlon

oh yes I know that you will not see Gruzinov

this is a tale, I was fortunophile (crawler) and I was mistaken, and apologized about it! Well read what I write!

[Old skeptic]

Turkey to help you!

[Andrey57]

You are mistaken, they do not hate you, for the most part you are despised for your jackal habits in South Ossetia, your grandfathers during the Great Patriotic War were decent people, unlike Georgian citizens.

[dc120mm]

Quote: fortuneophile

Recently Gruzinov pinched 3rd killed more than 20 wounded.

It’s not so easy to say, it’s wrong. When your guys die in the North Caucasus, I don’t write like that. They should respect each other.

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: dc120mm

It’s not so easy to say, it’s wrong. When your guys die in the North Caucasus, I don’t write like that. They should respect each other

100% agree with you!

[fortunophile]

Quote: dc120mm

It’s not so easy to say, it’s wrong. When your guys die in the North Caucasus, I don’t write like that. They should respect each other.

I do not insult the dead and if they had not fought for Uncle Sam’s ass, I would even grieve for them. What did they forget in Afghanistan? If your Mishiko drives your guys like sheep and constantly increases the contingent when other countries withdraw, then who am I to blame or who sent them there?

[dc120mm]

Quote: fortuneophile

What did they forget in Afghanistan?

Eta is our tragedy.

Quote: fortuneophile

Recently Georgians pinched

Quote: fortuneophile

if they hadn’t fought for Uncle Sam’s ass,

And this is an insult.

[fortunophile]

Damn, well, it crosses all boundaries

Quote: dc120mm

What did they forget in Afghanistan? This is our tragedy.

What is your tragedy in Afghanistan? You and Georgia have enough tragedies

Quote: dc120mm

if they hadn’t fought for Uncle Sam’s ass, And this is an insult.

Well, what are the "brave" Georgians fighting for, this may be an achievement for them, but for me they were thrown into a spray

[dc120mm]

Quote: fortuneophile

Eta is our tragedy.

The tragedy is that Misha sent our guys there. And the new authorities can’t fix it so quickly and roughly, 1014 the active phase ends.

[Old skeptic]

Uvas is a country of overdeveloped democracy, and what was the matter .....

[Old skeptic]

This is not an insult, but the truth.!

[Old skeptic]

Come on ... What tolerance ...

[Old skeptic]

But peacekeepers in Ossetia is not in the North Caucasus?

[Larus]

And how they rejoiced when they killed ours. As they say, a tooth for two! And a boomerang in action.

[albert]

Do not dig into another hole, you yourself will fall into it! In this case, this saying is especially appropriate.

[jagdpanzer]

what can happen there? they are at home, grow poppy, make heroin under the control of the US government and drive it to us.

[Guun]

The Taliban generally fought with poppy fields. Examine the statistics on drug trafficking from the fields of Afghanistan before and after the Americans and you will see that the drug turnover grew with the occupation by NATO forces. And why do terrorism fighters sit in well-fortified bases near Kabul and guard exclusively poppy fields?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Guun

The Taliban actually fought with poppy fields

These were internal disputes, because they would not encourage the use of opiates among the controlled population, and selling heroin to infidels, in this they do not see anything shameful (Resolution 1267,
Adopted by the Security Council at its 4051 meeting
October 15, 1999), then the T-would switch to more profitable smuggling of goods from Pakistan, also advocated the fight against the fields to improve the international image of their emirate. Yes, it can be said that the UN efforts defeated the cultivation of poppy in Afghanistan (and not because of the fact that t-would be so ideologically good) And then the United States climbed in and rushed .... Now the Taliban in the controlled areas collect and process huge volumes of poppy. And they also store pure heroin in secret storage facilities, like a gold reserve. I would like to note and "merit "NATO members. They do not fight the fields in any way. Partly, this is due to the principle that NATO does not touch the fields. The Taliban, the Taliban, does not touch NATO."

[Papakiko]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Partly, this is due to the fact that the principle works --- NATO does not touch the fields of the Taliban, the Taliban do not touch NATO.

You are our darago.
Do you believe in it exclusively in "pioneer"?
Give then a couple of millions of rubles, dollars, pounds or euros. ME for an extremely honest word, I'll be back in a week with%.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Thunderbolt

.Partially

I’m saying --- about the situation. NATO and the Taliban are not fascists and Soviet partisans. Intermediaries from the local population work between the military administration and some field commanders (not everywhere, of course, in part). At one time in the West slip-ins from interviews of former participants in the conflict (war veterans) surfaced

[Alexander IV]

As if a different scenario was expected ... They will gnaw at each other for a long time. And the main thing is that they don’t switch to us, otherwise Tajikistan, Ubzekistan, go and go

[Guun]

The Taliban got tired of the war, because there are people there too, they fought enough - the influence will increase (which is dangerous for Russia and Kazakhstan), and the invasion is fantastic (in the event of a war with the CSTO, they will lose influence in Central Asia for most of the population and will get another war and lose the support of the population in Afghanistan itself). But I don’t know about Uzbekistan - a violent overthrow of Karimov’s regime is possible if he chooses the United States.

[avt]

Quote: Guun

The Taliban got tired of the war, because there are people there too, they fought enough - the influence will grow (which is dangerous for Russia and Kazakhstan), and the invasion is fantastic

It’s a deep delusion, how many generations have grown there besides the war and don’t know what to do? Suppose they are happy to sow bread if they give them seeds and a tractor? I somehow doubt it But what about fiction? In Brezhnev’s times, do you think people would believe if they were told that the USSR would be destroyed by the CPSU Secretary General?

[Thunderbolt]

***** how freely the Mujahideen behave, they conduct the battle almost without disguise, even the summoned aircraft do not scare them much. ***** So at one time they had good instructors --- the same Americans ... The Afghans know how to partisan, and if the Americans had not "negotiated" with some or pitted groups against each other, the blood of civilizers would have flowed many times more.

[jagdpanzer]

when was it and who was fighting the fields there?

[Ivanovich47]

The Americans themselves climbed into the Afghan swamp. Now they are planning to withdraw troops. And what have they achieved? They contributed to a manifold increase in drug traffic, the death of thousands of civilians, the degradation of Afghanistan. But taking into account the experience of Libya, Syria, they deliberately create a "zone of chaos" in the world

[MG42]

Taliban attack American convoys in Afghanistan.

American soldiers cried with tears of fear of the Mujahideen

More than one generation has already grown up in Afghanistan who knows no damn thing but to fight, so Afghanistan = this is the territory of the war, yes + drugs.

[Geokingxnumx]

Quote: MG42

American soldiers cried with tears of fear of the Mujahideen

it may be true from fear, but 0: 33-0: 34 it is clear that they are dragging the murdered one. maybe and therefore they cry because they lost a friend


on 8: 00))

[MG42]

Quote: GEOKING95

it’s clear that they are dragging the murdered one. maybe and therefore they cry because they lost a friend

I do not sympathize with either the Taliban or the Amers, let each other be soaked there. Do not forget how these Mujahideen shot our guys there in the 80s.

[Guun]

Quote: MG42

I do not sympathize with the Taliban

But in vain. These are children of war, how many people of the United States and have they bombed with democratic bombs? But this is someone's family, there small children died from newborns to adolescents. We thank God a peaceful sky, unlike them, and believe me, they envy us that bombs do not fall on our families and accidentally does not blow up weddings or other unmanned aerial vehicles with explosions. I sympathize with everyone who I decided to destroy the west from Yugoslavia and Iraq, ending with Afghanistan. But there are countries and people who are fighting with a reptile by the name of democracy all over the world and I support them.

[MG42]

Quote: Guun

But in vain. These are the children of war

Oh yes, how many zinc coffins came from Afghanistan to the USSR? What should I suddenly feel for the spirits. Children of war their mother so!

[Larus]

That's right, there is nothing for them to sympathize with, but they need help with weapons and MANPADS. I would like to hear the real number of Amer’s losses, and not the official ravings

[MG42]

I advise those who sympathize here with the Taliban to look to "refresh" their memory

[Lech from ZATULINKI]

YES - AFGHANIANS LOOK AT THE AMERICANS AS IT looks like heh heh not much respect for the OCCUPIERS.

[MG42]

Americans in Afghanistan from the rear

[Rustiger]

Quote: MG42

Americans in Afghanistan from the rear

And for some reason, it doesn’t bother me that being alone in underpants can happen.
But why in PINK ?.
Yes, and this is not a fighter, soldiers in equipment, but they put a helmet and bronik / unloading on this one and gave shooting of dushmans. This is a journalist.

[MG42]

Quote: Rustiger

But why in PINK ?. This is a journalist.

And will you determine the citizenship of the "journalist" by the color of the underwear?

[vdenisov56]

Yes, let the raven crow pecks out his eyes. If only Russia had the intelligence not to get into it again. Let the Taliban deal with the general people in Pakistan.

[Farik]

Quote: Lech s ZATULINKI

YES - AFGHANIANS LOOK AT THE AMERICANS AS IT looks like heh heh not much respect for the OCCUPIERS.

Hammering, as in a dash. This is their amusement, probably such a prayer.

[Guun]

They sit in deadlock in their bases, and when they leave for the convoy they put them in stacks, laying them in a coffin with a striped flag. Russian soldiers are respected everywhere, and Western thugs and butchers are slaughtered like mad dogs. It’s a pity that propaganda is not on our side, I remember a video where a detachment of 40 Asashai soldiers was liquidated within 5 minutes - it is no longer on the Internet ... like many other similar videos.

[phantom359]

Quote: GEOKING95

Quote: MG42

American soldiers cried with tears of fear of the Mujahideen

it may be true from fear, but 0: 33-0: 34 it is clear that they are dragging the murdered one. maybe and therefore they cry because they lost a friend


on 8: 00))

It is worth looking at their faces and everything becomes clear.

[Burbulator]

Lie.
Images from the movie Restrepo.
Tears due to the death of a colleague.
Well, fear is possible.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: MG42

Afghan = this is the territory of the war, yes + drugs.

+ the radical trend of Islam in the person of the Taliban. Let's not forget how the Taliban were "noted" in the North Caucasus, how freely Chechen fighters in exile feel there. And in world wars the Taliban are frequent guests, partly as mercenaries, but most importantly, how weapons in the wrong hands (at one time, their power was recognized as legitimate by 3 countries - Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan. And in Mecca, negotiations were held between the Taliban and Karzai, and in addition to the king, the guarantor of the negotiations was, attention, Great Britain ) The Taliban officially broke with Al Qaeda, but some facts confirm that this is not so. It remains to post a photo of Laden and Brzezik and we will see that American ears stick out from under the black mask of the Taliban

[MAG]

I looked and, in my opinion, from the mounted of 2 attacks, the bends of the roads do not converge. And so everything is rightly ambushed where there are a lot of turns, which means that the speed is low, which is what RPG shniks need. One thing is not clear why there is no air cover where the trucks go, as I understand it, it’s like our central delivery. The film Restrepo watched completely well shows how the Americans are fighting their supply arrangement of blocks.

[Hudo]

Quote: MAG

I looked and, in my opinion, from bent out of 2 attacks, the bends of the roads do not converge.

Let the democratizers valtozi stronger and more often, so that there is something to mount the video from. To reach the meaning of the saying, he lived and fought until ... he ran into it.

[Burbulator]

As for the silence of the situation in Afghanistan or something is not being said - nonsense.
Everyone knows everything. The presence of free and independent media will not allow this.

[виктор1972]

Only not a single free and independent media in America or England without the permission of the authorities will not dare to blather. Such sanctions are blinded for the disclosure of military secrets. They were allowed to talk about successes, though they say little, because there is nothing to talk about.

[Farik]

Quote: victor1972

Only not one free and independent media in America or England without the permission of the authorities will not dare to blather.

Compared to Russian channels, they have specific censorship there. They all sing to the same tune there.

[albai]

The fact that the amers are completely lost in Afghanistan and have not achieved, and will not achieve any solutions to their tasks, is evident. Even if they leave 5-6 bases, they will be nightmares all the time, day and night. And they won't stick their nose out of these bases. All provision will be by air. And the wiring of the columns will cost a lot of blood. No high technology will help. As a result, even toilet papers will be gold. And the cost of maintaining the bases will increase significantly. The spirits will go to work, in shifts, to shoot the Americans. In a word, the amers' spirits will be a huge, sore thorn in the z-tse. I see the solution to the issue in only one thing, an agreement or a complete blockade. The only question is in Iran and Pakistan. For more than half a century the people have seen nothing except war. A whole generation knows only one kind of Kalash instrument. Once they were probably hardworking people, I saw how on a piece of land, in the mountains, he (an Afghan) brought soil from the valley and did not leave for days with a catman, plowed with a wooden plow.

[Pilot200809]

- And they will not stick out of these bases and nose- from our bases, mind you, from ours, that they remained almost untouched when they left. The entire ifro structure remained for the mattresses.

[albai]

I agree. But they want to set up bases not only at the places of our locations, as I read.

[Prishtina]

I will write a cynical thing ... BUT, - the problem of the Taliban, as in other things at the time, and the SC can be solved within a couple of months to 1 year ... Do you know how ?? Stop playing in democracy, tolerance and tolerance of the enemy (oh, excuse the local population) ... One team from the Pentagon or the Kremlin, _fas, are all enemies ... And I don’t want to wash any territory with rebels and sympathizers who sympathize with them. Now it is called - genocide ... and 300 years ago it was also called - expansion of territories.

[albai]

One:

Quote: Prishtina

One team from the Pentagon or the Kremlin _ face

you can’t solve the problem, okay the enemy, okay the peacekeeper (old people, children, women), (which the Americans are doing now, by the way) but then the exchange will go, the other side will consider itself free from the norms of civilization. Yes, of course, amers everywhere and everywhere did just that, and they do (the same Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Vietnam) and everywhere. After all this blood, the army will rapidly decompose. The army will become a gang. That is why their l / s do not withstand organized resistance, they run. And all the others are slowly falling off from this state, I think so. Himself was able to barely barely bring to life the soldiers after looting, and then they took cotton blankets from non-residential, broken village for equipment.

[djon3volta]

what do you think about it?

[Thunderbolt]

The Americans dropped a bunker bomb made of depleted uranium --- quite possible. It was also thrown in Yugoslavia. The result is a defeat of a buried structure + a funnel will flicker, leave a trace, but not critical. wrote) --- raised the rating with sensational material, good fees for interviews . Eugene, I also do not like US policy, but the fact that they are not donkeys finished is also a fact.

[sergeschern]

Afghanistan was one of the first (and perhaps the first) to recognize the Soviets. There have never been border clashes on the border with them. Well, for what the hell did our climb there? For the sake of momentary interests? And now all this is shitting on us!

[Thunderbolt]

And for what hell the Mujahideen began to arm the United States and others. Ours got into Angola and Yemen and the hell knows where. The Cold War was in full swing. The USSR and the USA could not clash directly, so they exported their worldviews, weapons and sent limited contingents and expeditionary forces. But, of course, my personal, human opinion is what the old people decided in the Politburo about sending troops is tough. And for our country and for the soldiers.

[individual]

Afghanistan is a strange, mysterious country for everyone. Islam professed by all nations unites them. Poverty is the driving force in confronting any aggression. They just have nothing to lose but the laws of the clan. And it is not for sale or bought. They are all warriors and they do not need the benefits of civilization. The Spartan spirit nourishes their firmness and will to protect themselves from any aggression.
The history of Afghanistan testifies to this and nothing can be done about it.

[Pilot200809]

Quote: Guun

They sit in deadlock in their bases, and when they leave for the convoy they put them in stacks, laying them in a coffin with a striped flag. Russian soldiers are respected everywhere, and Western thugs and butchers are slaughtered like mad dogs. It’s a pity that propaganda is not on our side, I remember a video where a detachment of 40 Asashai soldiers was liquidated within 5 minutes - it is no longer on the Internet ... like many other similar videos.

I agree completely. Spirits warriors, what is needed - and we were respected as a warrior. And mattresses? I have nothing to answer. High-tech rabble, no more. I can say one thing, if now again (God forbid, of course, though ....) I had to go in, then we would quickly find a common language with the bearded. Such losses and problems that were not there then, and everything is different it would be for the better (I'm sure.)

[MG42]

Quote: Pilot200809

I can say one thing, if now again (God forbid, of course, though ....) I had to go in, then we would quickly find a common language with the bearded. Such losses and problems that were not there then, and everything is different it would be for the better (I'm sure.)

"History does not tolerate the subjunctive mood." I doubt it.
Soon amers will leave Afgan, and where will the drug traffic be directed? For religious reasons, the Taliban type will stop and burn the fields of opium is unlikely >>> who cuts the hen that lays the "golden eggs"? although they are destructive who are on the needle ..

[Pilot200809]

Quote: albai

I agree. But they want to set up bases not only at the places of our locations, as I read.

These bases still need to be built. Keep and deliver builders, equipment, materials, for this additional forces are needed for security and ifro structure (adjusted for the capriciousness of mattress warriors), but they do not have them. They will not be allowed to do this and they will re-converse even before the start of construction, as in a shooting gallery from the mountains, with their own weapons

[waisson]

you can’t understand the war of the poor, the war will only be able to curb them ......................... you can’t conquer them with war, the patience of pain for them

[sasha1973]

The drug coming from Afghanistan pays for everything that is going on handsomely.

[Yugra]

We can say in one word, in Afghanistan there is a reproduction of a means of exterminating the inhabitants of Russia (narcotics), as well as a springboard for militants who from there will drag their stinky Islamic hands to our country

[BDRM 667]

But We have nothing to do there! Let the Taliban conduct excursions for NATO, with all that it implies ...

[Semyon Albertovich]

In Afghanistan, the US policy of "military export of American-style democracy" is failing. The Yankees will leave as from Vietnam, getting a kick in the ass.

[phantom359]

Let them get, just do not rush to blame. Few of them there fat was driven into the skin.

[RUS]

As the Afghans themselves say, neither Alexander the Great, the Arabs, the Persians, the British, the USSR or the USA could conquer and completely conquer Afghanistan.

[fzr1000]

From 1:14 minutes. Tired of fighting, say?