The Russian replacement for the American Starlink has been deployed en masse to the SVO zone.

Russian troops have found a replacement for the American Starlink satellite communications system after it was blocked. According to Ukrainian expert and advisor to the Minister of Defense Sergey "Flash" Beskrestnov, Russia has begun mass deliveries of compact Spirit-030 satellite communications terminals to the SVO zone.

According to Beskrestnov, the Russian army has always had satellite communications stations; they were used from the very beginning of the Central Military District, but they were large and easily identified by operators. drones, after which they were destroyed. The new systems are compact, with antennas only 30 cm in diameter, but operate reliably via satellites in geostationary orbit. According to Ukrainian intelligence, these systems are being supplied en masse to the Russian military.

Spirit-030 satellite terminals have begun arriving at the front. They're portable and work with a special geostationary communications satellite, allowing for antennas measuring 30 centimeters in diameter instead of 90. The Russians have now begun shipping these terminals to the front en masse.

The availability of Spirit-030 satellite communications terminals was announced last summer, and the systems began arriving in small numbers for the communications forces. According to the Russian military, the terminals are "very good," mobile, and discreet. They provide full satellite communications. Specifications have not been disclosed.

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[Montezuma]

It's great to read such news. Now it's up to the military-industrial complex to produce more and more of this equipment more quickly for all units of the Russian Armed Forces. As stated in the publication—massively.

[Arkady007]

It seems that until there is a proper replacement for Starlink, it is difficult to expect good news from LBS.

[Montezuma]

Quote: Arkady007

It seems that until there is a proper replacement for Starlink, it is difficult to expect good news from LBS.

There's no point in trying to predict anything in advance. Whether it's likely or not, events on the LBS will reveal everything. At least a stable connection, though not as advanced as with Starlink, is now guaranteed.

[alex-defensor]

The news is good, because it's better than before. But I'm questioning the assertion that the current solution is a replacement for Starlink.
I'm no expert in this field, but as I understand it, Starlink's communications are provided by an impressive array of low-altitude satellites. The connection with them is fast because latency is minimal and can be established using simply upward-facing flat antennas. Geosynchronous orbits, on the other hand, are located at an altitude of over 35 km, and the round-trip signal delay is a few tenths of a second. And the antenna itself is more massive and heavier...

[Montezuma]

Quote: alex-defensor

But I have a question about the assertion that the current solution is precisely a replacement for Starlink.

Not a replacement, but a first practical step toward a complete replacement, and this is already producing a significant positive effect. Bureau 1440 is handling the replacement.

[ism_ek]

Quote: Montezuma

The replacement is being handled by Bureau 1440.

This system is used specifically for low-orbit satellites. At least, that's what the Ukrainians think.
A 30cm antenna is extremely small for a geostationary satellite, unless it is an asynchronous link.
And then, why a phased array antenna? A geostationary satellite stays in one place.

[Ovsigovets]

I beg your pardon, but is a connection even with a delay of several milliseconds considered slow?)))))) You don't have to answer, the question is rhetorical

[Saburov_Alexander53]

Communications are not all the same... There's simple communications (telephone, fax, SMS), and then there's higher-bandwidth communications for transmitting video and control signals to fast-flying objects—drones, cruise missiles, and so on. And that's where signal latency and, most importantly, interference immunity are crucial. It's unclear how robust a single geostationary satellite will be against enemy electronic warfare. Hundreds and thousands of Starlinks, which intercept and transmit signals from the ground or flying objects with minimal delays thanks to their extremely low orbits, are a different matter. Montezuma is right when he writes that our "Bureau 1440" will become the equivalent of Starlink when hundreds of satellites can be launched into low orbits.

[bk316]

there is a broader band

Broadband isn't about latency (delay), it's about channel width (throughput). Half a second for target acquisition is through the roof. And Starlinks also have quite a bit of latency precisely because of the chains involved in signal transmission. So it's a tie.

[Saburov_Alexander53]

bk316 (Vladimir), thanks for the comment or tip. I still remember a bit of the theory and principles of digital communications. After all, I've worked in communications for over 30 years and worked throughout the development of backbone communication lines at Rostelecom, operating and constructing them. I understand that explaining all the problems with signal processing and propagation delays to an outsider is quite difficult. And when a communication channel is established via a geostationary satellite, the primary concern isn't the hardware delay in signal processing, but the simple round-trip distance. But the average person is interested in how and what impact such a delay has, if the signal travels at the speed of light. And they can't imagine what impact such a tiny delay could have when controlling a drone via a TV channel. Or why doesn't anyone control drones via a geostationary satellite, instead using only low-orbit satellites, like Starlink?

[alex-defensor]

Quote: Ovsigovets

Is a connection even with a delay of a few milliseconds considered slow?)))))) You don't have to answer, it's a rhetorical question

Communication with a latency of several hundred milliseconds. Yes, it allows for the exchange of data packets. But installing a communication device for this system on a UAV, as was previously done with Starlink, is no longer possible. Moreover, besides the latency, the second obstacle is the size and weight of the transmitting and receiving device.
Forgive me, but I answered...

[bk316]

But to install a communication device from this system on a UAV,

That's not true, it's certainly too much for FPV, but it's more than enough for targeting.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: alex-defensor

Communication with a latency of several hundred milliseconds. Yes, it allows for the exchange of data packets. But installing a communication device for this system on a UAV, as was previously possible with Starlink, is no longer possible.

Well, up to 300 milliseconds ping is still playable if you're careful.
They've gotten too greedy.

[olegff68]

One tenth of a second is 100 milliseconds.
Low ping, which allows you to confidently control the UAV - less than 50 milliseconds.
And what data packet size can be transmitted at such speed—enough to transmit high-resolution images? It's just that many people still don't realize that communications today aren't just about talking.

[bk316]

Low ping, which allows you to confidently control the UAV -

UAVs are not limited to FPV, and it is too expensive to install such a terminal on an FPV.
And for the "geranium," such a connection is sufficient for target designation. Select a target, and the UAV will do the rest.

[olegff68]

Well, the enemy is taking out air defenses in Crimea (and not just in Crimea) precisely with inexpensive, mass-produced, and compact Starlink drones. Our forces also installed Starlinks on drones and used them to take out enemy air defenses, artillery, disrupt logistics, and so on. Shooting down such drones is extremely difficult—they're small and fly low, making them difficult to detect, and they cost a fraction of the missiles used to shoot them down.
The BEKs—those compact, fast, and maneuverable ones that our Black Sea Fleet is constantly searching for and hiding from in the Black Sea's bays—are also controlled via Starlink and OneWeb (the satellites of which Roscosmos launched, as the trampoline enthusiast so boasted). And now we SHOULD be launching these BEKs ourselves en masse to combat the enemy's BEKs, but alas, there's no way to control them. That's what we need: high-speed, low-latency communications.

[Netl]

Quote: Montezuma

There is no point in making predictions in advance.

This is not a matter of prediction, but of basic knowledge of performance characteristics.

Starlink satellites are low-orbit satellites; they fly low, so they can transmit huge amounts of data. Geostationary satellites (which Spirit's antennas connect to) are very high, so the signal reaching them is weak, making it impossible to transmit large amounts of data.

It's clear that even a weak connection is better than none. But for now, the main hopes are for Dawn.

[bk316]

therefore, the signal reaching them is weak and it is impossible to transmit a large amount of information.

Don't write about things you don't understand.
Sit down, student or two. You haven't learned Kotelnikov's theorem.
The signal amplitude and the channel width are not related in any way.

[Netl]

Quote: bk316

You haven't learned Kotelnikov's theorem.

Because it does not take into account noise, which is critical when transmitting data.
If you weren't ignorant, you'd know to use Shannon's formula (Shannon's limit), which takes noise into account. Bandwidth:
C = W * log_2(1 + S/N)

where S = k * A^2 (A is the amplitude)

Geostationary satellites are very high up, far away. The signal is severely attenuated. To maintain the speed (C) with a fixed bandwidth (W), one must either increase the amplitude (huge dishes, powerful transmitters—not our case) or use very simple and slow modulation types (our Spirit).

I hope I have explained it to an acceptable level.

[bk316]

I hope I explained it to an acceptable level.

Well done for explaining it, but it was out of place.

For reliable internet, satellites in geostationary orbit, such as Express-AMU, are used. Currently, over 5 subscribers are connected to them in Chukotka and the Magadan region.

Can you explain how they jumped the Shannon limit?
Hint: what is Kotelnikov's theorem all about? Well, if we explain it in full...

[Netl]

Quote: bk316

Can you explain how they jumped the Shannon limit?

They didn't even exceed the Shannon limit; they simply used multiple frequencies and spatial separation. And in each individual beam, the Shannon limit works correctly.

And it's clear that in modern communication systems, both amplitude and phase are measured at any given moment, which improves speed. But the problem of signal attenuation over distance remains, which is why modulation is slow.

Low-orbit satellites don't have these problems. That's why we're so eagerly awaiting Rassvet.

[Arkady007]

"... a stable connection, although not yet as advanced as with Starlink, is now ensured."
They answered all the questions themselves: "marked."

[SmolH2]

Especially

Satellite terminals “Spirit-030” have begun to be delivered to the front… It is made portable and works with a special geostationary communications satellite, which allows the use of antennas not 90 centimeters in diameter, but 30

I agree that 90 cm in diameter is too much...
The author was a poor student at school. He wrote in more than one place.

[Dedok]

I agree that 90 cm in diameter is too much.

The domestic satellite communications system "Spirit-030" as seen by an enemy drone. Terminals must be compact and unobtrusive!
The antenna is 30 cm in size, but it's still a massive thing.

[SmolH2]

I was talking about diameter. That's in the text. Not about length. Does anyone remember what a diameter is? The circumference is 30 cm, and the old one is almost a meter...

[bk316]

so that they can produce more and more quickly provide all units of the Russian Armed Forces with this equipment.

Well, the satellites themselves should also have a bandwidth limit.
And yes, I already said that for a water cooling system, a Starlink-type system is not necessary at all.
Starlink is for global coverage, but for SVO it is necessary to cover Ukraine, and perhaps surrounding countries.
The correct solution here is a geostationary satellite.
The problem is that the orbit is high, which means the signal needs to be amplified much more.

[5.11]

Now this is good news.
Thanks to those who kicked the bureaucrats' asses and got the project off the ground. And a special shout out to the developers!

[rocket757]

Provides full satellite communication.

Communications... modern communications systems aren't just talk, like they once were... everything depends on the speed of information transfer. Starlink provided high-speed information exchange, which is precisely its value for... for many purposes, needs, in many fields of activity.

[Montezuma]

Quote: rocket757

Communication... modern communication systems are not a talk, as they once were... everything depends on the speed of information transfer.

In the publication:

The new systems are compact, with antennas only 30 cm in diameter, but operate reliably via satellites in geostationary orbit.

Regarding Russian military communications satellites in geostationary orbit:

The Blagovest satellite communications system. These satellites were developed by the M.F. Reshetnev Information Satellite Systems JSC on the Express-2000 commercial platform under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense. The satellite weighs 3,4 tons.

The constellation consists of four satellites, evenly spaced in geostationary orbit. The satellites provide global coverage and guarantee the Russian military access to high-speed data transmission, telephone and video conferencing, internet access, and other communications. The satellites utilize the advanced Ka- and Q-band frequencies.

There are also constellations of satellites in geostationary orbits for various purposes.

[Montezuma]

We look forward to further development of Bureau 1440's communications capabilities—the creation of a low-orbit satellite system for high-speed broadband data transmission. The first steps have already been taken.

[rocket757]

Question... why did our military use Starlink whenever possible?
For example, I'm not a wizard and I didn't study to be one... so I'm not asking about magic, it's not my thing...

[Montezuma]

Quote: rocket757

Question... why did our military use Starlink whenever possible?
For example, I'm not a wizard and I didn't study to be one... so I'm not asking about magic, it's not my thing...

Victor, I'm no expert on satellite communications either. The pros and cons are discussed in more detail in the comments below.

[rocket757]

Let's put it this way... the area is not just familiar to me, but... very familiar, even from the times when we were the USSR.
At the user/operation level and all stages of the transition to what is now IT technology... I was there, I taught, and...
In general, I had to dig around inside more than once, and the inscriptions on the elements and blocks never made me happy, unlike those who did not understand that everything should be its own, in this extremely important area!
It's not us who are like that, it's those around us who are not our friends at all...
When our people don’t have to use foreign products and it’s not forced but justified, I will rejoice, if not more than everyone else, then on par with many!

[Montezuma]

Quote: rocket757

When our people will no longer need to use foreign goods and it will not be forced but justified, I will rejoice, if not more than everyone else, then on par with many

I've encountered this too – foreign markings on electronic components. So, I second that.

[rocket757]

Unfortunately, the losses of previous years have not been compensated for, in some areas, practically in no way... there are objective reasons for this, but there are also plenty of others that can't be described in any other way than... pee pee.

[Neptus]

Quote: Montezuma

I have also encountered this phenomenon - foreign markings on electronic components.

Let's not overstate the case. Foreign components aren't a problem if they're produced by multiple global manufacturers. Westerners can't ban them all, and they can't even track those they control.
It's only a problem if there are just one or two producers. Even if there's an earthquake nearby...

[Podvodnik]

Why did our military use Starlink whenever possible?

It's easy, both practically and physically. Just install the antenna, turn it on, and your usual internet connection is at your fingertips. Then, you have all the features of a regular smartphone and a full suite of convenient and easy-to-use apps. Wi-Fi coverage extends over hundreds of meters. Low latency and high speed. It works in rough seas (at sea and in the air), as the diagram is generated electronically and fully automatically. It's affordable and can be purchased separately.
The thing in the photo in the article won't work. It's clearly heavier, and the positioning is mechanical. This means the antenna needs to be precisely aligned in space. It can't be installed on a vehicle, a ship, or even in the air. Since it's not a mass-produced item, it's expensive and unavailable in stores. You can't just buy it. Hence the drawbacks.
When there's no fish, even a crayfish is a fish. If it's en masse among the troops, that's good.

[A.K.]

I want to believe it. God willing.

[Montezuma]

Quote: A.K.

I want to believe it. God willing.

This is indeed the case, it has already been tested, judging by the publication in June of last year.

Specialists from the separate communications battalion of the 144th motorized rifle division of the 20th combined arms army of the West group of forces have begun using the new Spirit-030 satellite communications stations.
"These portable satellite kits are very good, mobile, and discreet. They install easily, and the signal is stable. We haven't seen any issues with them. They provide full satellite communications—phones and everything else. Everything is encrypted," said a communications platoon commander with the call sign Mozart.

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/2025622321-L7PPK.html

[Spiidii]

Poor guys write comments like this, they're not very smart,

[Zaurbek]

Is this from Gazprom satellites?

[opuonmed]

Russia has begun mass deliveries of compact Spirit-030 satellite communications terminals to the SVO zone. They are portable and operate with a special geostationary communications satellite, allowing the use of antennas 30 centimeters in diameter rather than 90 centimeters. The Russians have now begun mass deliveries of these terminals to the front. According to the Russian military, the terminals are "very good," mobile, and discreet. They provide full satellite communications. Specifications have not been disclosed.

If this is true, then this is very good, and it would also be possible to access the Internet through them, it would be even cooler to transfer arrays of data.

[al3x]

Give us a mass-market solution, like Starlink. It will be the best production booster when similar products are available to civilian customers, even if in a limited form. I hope the notorious Bureau 1440 is well-versed in this area.

[sgrabik]

First, we need to fully satisfy all military needs for modern communications and high-speed data transmission, and then talk about civilian needs.

[Egg]

Quote: sgrabik

First, we need to fully satisfy all military needs for modern communications and high-speed data transmission, and then talk about civilian needs.

This approach proved completely ineffective back in the USSR.
Isn't it time to change it to the exact opposite: launch mass production for civilians, test the technologies and variants, train people, reduce the cost, and only then offer the military improved, modernized versions at a reasonable price?
Than to create one-off, unfinished versions and push them onto the military at exorbitant prices.
This is not just about communication...

[al3x]

No, we need either parallel military and civilian production. Or civilian production first, as mentioned above. Mass production is essential. The military is too cumbersome, but in civilian life, such terminals would sell like hotcakes. The military could take over the business if they're not happy with something. And then everything would go down the drain again.

[Div Divich]

I hope the American ship returning from the moon doesn't accidentally knock down our satellite.
This is a joke, by the way.

[guest]

Quote: Divy Divych

This is a joke, by the way.

In every joke there is a share of jokes.

[Div Divich]

Every joke is a prepared dish that should be served cold (to cool the emotions and allow time to reflect). And before crafting a joke, it's helpful to fuel your imagination with funny stories.

[NakedMan]

No ship. But an attack on our satellites isn't out of the question. The Americans wouldn't directly engage in it, and neither would the Europeans. But launching supposedly Ukrainian scientific satellites that would suddenly turn out to be kamikaze space drones—that's entirely possible.

[Vitaly_pvo]

Comparing Spirit-030 and Starlink is a poor idea. The former is based on a geostationary satellite, a high-power ground terminal with a reflector antenna, and requires precise manual orientation. The latter, on a low-orbit satellite, uses a low-power terminal with a digital phased antenna array, requiring no special spatial orientation and capable of operating in mobile systems.
It's clear that when there's no fish, even a crayfish is a fish. But we need to write appropriately, rather than comparing something warm with something soft.

[Alexey Lantukh]

Starlink allows for real-time control of UAVs, while geostationary UAVs do not. Furthermore, Spirit's ground station, by definition, would need a more powerful transmitter and, accordingly, a more powerful power supply. It would likely provide standard communications.

[Navy7981]

That's encouraging! I hope what's written is true and not just empty rhetoric. The main thing is that the soldiers are satisfied, meaning there's communication within the troops!!!
I may be wrong, but it seems like, unfortunately, we're reacting more often than we're proactive! It's like... the devil's in the details! Or is that just how it looks from the outside?! War is creativity and science. And thank God we have enough smart and literate people, and I hope that's not yet...

[rosomaha]

Why can't this Flash be "buried" in a nasty way (with discrediting)... a female agent... drugs... an accident... hooligans in the alley... he's already starting to get on my nerves - he knows everything... he knows what exists... countermeasures are being taken - just like God.
And also - why does their intelligence know...see? And we, beyond personal contact (and not always even that), are half-baked and can only guess. They could recruit or gain their trust by posing as citizen volunteers from Europe or Canada (they're now suspicious of the Americans) and conduct reconnaissance. They could set up beacons at logistics hubs, at checkpoints, in hospitals in Europe. They could sabotage European factories producing drones, so they could burn and damage their products or factories. If Europe brings the war to our land, then the war will return as a wave to their lands and destroy their states, cultures, and peoples.

[solar]

Russian troops have found a replacement for the American Starlink satellite communications system after it was blocked.

A satellite in geostationary orbit cannot replace Starlink. Starlink satellites fly in low orbits, about 500 km, while geostationary orbit is 36,000 km. These are completely different systems.

[AVA77]

Our fighter and our enemy don't care about orbit.
The main thing is a stable connection and ease of use.
The fighters praise it, so it’s good, but how it works is completely irrelevant.

[helilelik]

So the soldiers praised the VKBO, albeit on camera, for the Zvezda channel. Everyone said, "Okay, just give me back my shoulder straps." They practically begged. They couldn't find any other shortcomings with the VKBO. Oh, and just the other day, a woman was telling someone that the Starlink shutdown had no effect on the troops. I'm afraid this connection is the same story.

[TerraSandera]

Flash isn't our "fighter," and it doesn't seem to praise it. Because I haven't tried it. They just said they started shipping in bulk. How much of a bulk shipment is unclear. Basically, more than 10 units is considered a bulk shipment.

[AVA77]

Quote: TerraSandera

According to the Russian military, the terminals are “very good”, mobile and invisible.

So it seems like they are praising not Flash, but ours.

[Genius Yo]

Ten pieces is wholesale! Mass production is when there are millions and everyone can afford them!!!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote from solar

Starlink satellites fly in low orbits, about 500 km,

550 km.....................................................

[Oleg 1968]

And won't the RKH slow down, as usual?

[mixa7591]

We are waiting for confirmation from "0"

[sdivt]

Comparing Starlink and Spirit-030 is a bit unfair.
Starlink was created as a mass high-speed Internet service, while Spirit is a special operational communications service (including video conferencing).
While Starlink's priority is global availability and throughput (in the Ku/Ka bands), but at the expense of sensitivity to signal attenuation in precipitation and interference, Spirit focuses on reliability in the field thanks to the protected C-band (3,4-7 GHz). The result is low dependence on atmospheric phenomena, plus stability, even in electronic warfare conditions.

[Stas157]

Provides full satellite communication.

If we had fully supported satellite communications, we wouldn't have made any other Starlink-like systems. I'm referring to Bureau 1440, Gonets, Skif, Express-RV...
As I understand it, the system described in the article has high latency and low transmission speeds, which does not allow for the streaming video required for drones.

[Nikolaevich I]

There are digital signal compression methods! When the minimum data necessary for recognizing, for example, images of objects or items, remains! The rest is deleted or restored using specialized software using a database of "typical" data stored in memory! Well, it's like comparing modern ultra-high-definition televisions with televisions from the 30s and the first CRTs! However, in both cases, recognizing the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor... and St. Basil's Cathedral on Red Square is entirely possible! Image transmission in a discrete format with preliminary surveillance and transition to AI auto-tracking is possible!

[NakedMan]

True. But since we're already creating a low-orbit constellation for this purpose, there won't be much time left to wait.

[swan49]

The Ministry of Defense released a video of this terminal back in June of last year. No one reacted. But when Flash announced that the Ukrainian Armed Forces had destroyed the first terminal, everyone woke up. Last year's Ministry of Defense report didn't mention the internet at all.

[Revolver]

It's good for military communications. But you can't install it on every drone; it's expensive, labor-intensive to use (it needs to be specially designed), and, most importantly, heavy and bulky with no chance of being scaled down. Starlink's advantage was that its modem was consumable, suitable for use on one-way Geraniums.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Montezuma

It's great to read news like this. Now it's up to the military-industrial complex to produce more and more quickly supply all units of the Russian Armed Forces with this equipment. As the publication states, it's massive.

And the subsequent technological development of the product! "Big ship, big voyage!" (c)

[don_Reba]

Quote: author Vladimir Lytkin

The new systems are compact, have antennas only 30 cm in diameter, but operate reliably through satellites in geostationary orbit

Holy shit... where do you all come from? All in one pile.

He wrote poetry and articles, then became a moderator, and then moved on to news. He considered himself a "physicist" his entire life, with degrees from the ChVTKU and the Sverdlovsk Institute of the Ministry of Internal Affairs under his belt.

1. GEO is a circular orbit located above the Earth's equator (0° latitude, at an altitude of ~35,786 km). "Physicist"☝️ almost 36000 km
2. Starlink: The satellites operate in low Earth orbit (LEO) at an altitude of about 550 km (previously they used 550 km, now they are moving to lower ones, about 480 km), the angles of inclination are mainly 53,0° - 53,2° (they needed to provide America with communications and Europe with various Australias), a little 70°, very little 97,6° - 97,9°, and a little more than 33,2°
3. Bureau 1440 satellites: altitude from 800 km and inclination 82° - 84°
4. Only an idiot can believe the converted "Flash"
5. I'll modestly assume that the photo shows a modified parabolic antenna for receiving and transmitting signals to satellites – the Yamal-601 (Ka-band, high speed) and the Yamal-401/402 (Ku-band). The kits include an antenna (0,75–1,2 m) and a modem (SkyEdge, Gemini).
Even a victim of the Unified State Exam can see that the photo in the article is not a FAR/AFAR, and cannot work with Rassvet.
The photo shows an offset parabolic antenna for field use for reception from the Yamal region.
"Analogues" of the Russian stralink: flat.
1+2+3+4+5= such propaganda (articles) only work for the enemy

[AC130 Gunship]

Why write such nonsense when even the developer himself has officially stated that their system is incomparable to Starlink, as it was originally designed for completely different purposes.

[AC130 Gunship]

Quote: Navy7981

That's encouraging! I hope what's written is true and not just empty rhetoric. The main thing is that the soldiers are satisfied, meaning there's communication within the troops!!!
I may be wrong, but it seems like, unfortunately, we're reacting more often than we're proactive! It's like... the devil's in the details! Or is that just how it looks from the outside?! War is creativity and science. And thank God we have enough smart and literate people, and I hope that's not yet...

Do you always feel happy when you read stories?

[the same doctor]

Our terminal doesn't have a phased array. And, most importantly, it's looking somewhere toward the horizon. Still, for satellite communications, such a solution is somewhat... outdated.

Conclusion: this isn't satellite communication, but a drone control terminal with a signal frequency of approximately 15 gigahertz. Another option is communication with a satellite in geostationary orbit.
.
However, from the very beginning of the SVO, I've been demanding high-frequency directional communication channels for drones. True, I dreamed of frequencies in the hundreds of gigahertz, at which the transmitting antenna could be 3 cm in size. The size of the receiving antenna depends on the range and power of the drone's transmitter. Can you think of any further possibilities?

[the same doctor]

Spirit-030 satellite terminals have begun to be delivered to the front... They are portable and work with a special geostationary communications satellite, which allows the use of antennas with a diameter of 30 centimeters, rather than 90 centimeters.
.
Excuse me, but these are the parameters of the Tricolor TV satellites. Weren't they usable five years ago?

[good luck]

16 pieces versus 10000... replacement??? Yeah, right... It's reports like this and false information that lead to losses!

[matsur]

Hooray! Finally, some good news!

[Al manah]

As stated by a Ukrainian expert and advisor to the Minister of Defense

Can we really trust our enemies? Or if they say something we like, is that okay?

[anclevalico]

It's a fresh admission, but hard to believe. It sounds more like a report to you-know-who.

[Romanenko]

The Russian replacement for the American Starlink has been deployed en masse to the SVO zone.

God grant that the word "mass" is not only on paper

[agond]

The antenna in the picture doesn't seem to be fully open, but for communication with
A geostationary phased array antenna is not required; a regular parabola will do.
There are certainly signal delays due to distance, but communication with a geostationary satellite can be achieved with one relay cycle on a given satellite, i.e. without transmitting a signal from satellite to satellite, as happens on low-orbit satellites (a repeater satellite is not a piece of a mirror from which radio waves are instantly reflected; it requires time to process the signal.) Therefore, not only the distance to the repeater matters, but also their number

[SergeySmirnov3663]

The news is good, but why isn't it from our military, but from some deputy minister of defense of the Khokhloreich?
Is there any truth in these words?

[dingowd]

For geostationary satellites, when setting up the terminal, you need to correctly set the azimuth, elevation, and polarization. This is not a quick process.

[the same doctor]

Got a Tricolor at home? Same thing with this terminal. Set it up once and use it for years. There are solutions for pointing at the satellite without human intervention. They're not that expensive. With mass production, you can get by with 5 rubles. And the Chinese can make it even cheaper.

[olboop]

Got a Tricolor card at home? It's the same with this terminal. Set it up once and use it for years.

There's a Tricolor antenna at home. But the house isn't moving, and we're discussing a mobile terminal. So, it seems like the antenna needs to be oriented.

[dingowd]

Tricolor only works for reception. Two-way internet requires fairly precise satellite targeting. This can't be accomplished in a minute. Unmanned satellite targeting systems are expensive and cumbersome. The satellite can operate with either circular or linear polarization. With circular polarization, polarization adjustments aren't necessary; with linear polarization, it's a real hassle, especially with a small dish. So mobility is abysmal.

[easy]

So, in the fifth year of the war, have we really made any progress on this issue? A bad start.

[AB]

Someone somewhere must have gotten a real thump on the head, otherwise I wouldn't have been reading so much good news lately. They've deployed a constellation of communications satellites, and now this!

[SHOPPING MALL]

It's not a replacement, at least not entirely. Communication with satellites in geostationary orbit is much easier to jam, and the ability to control drones is highly questionable due to high signal latency.

But at least it's something...

[Luenkov]

Quote: SmollH2

Especially

Satellite terminals “Spirit-030” have begun to be delivered to the front… It is made portable and works with a special geostationary communications satellite, which allows the use of antennas not 90 centimeters in diameter, but 30

I agree that 90 cm in diameter is too much...
The author was a poor student at school. He wrote in more than one place.

A 90cm dish will have a better signal-to-noise ratio. Why not use it if you can hide it? Again, if 30cm is sufficient, it's superior to Starlink.

[Sedoy]

The new systems are compact, with antennas only 30 cm in diameter, but operate reliably via satellites in geostationary orbit... the terminals are "very good," mobile, and discreet. They provide full satellite communications. Specifications are not disclosed.

Latency in geostationary orbit (at an altitude of ~35,786 km) averages 500–700 milliseconds (one-way – approximately 240–280 ms). This is due to the enormous distance the radio signal travels from Earth to the satellite and back (at least 72,000 km). Unlike low-orbit systems, where latency is <40 ms, geostationary communications are critical for video and online real-time streaming.
Travel time: The journey from ground to satellite to ground takes approximately 0.25–0.3 seconds.
Full cycle: When exchanging data with the server (request-response), the actual delay exceeds 600–700 ms, taking into account landlines.
The delay is noticeable during television broadcasting (a lag of up to 1 second) and makes it impossible to comfortably use interactive services that require a quick response.
Geostationary satellites are inferior to LEO/MEO systems (for example, Starlink) in terms of internet connection speed.

[Li17]

I'm reading, especially the comments. It's my thing; I've been working on it my entire service. And it's all business as usual: it's being implemented..., it's being deployed..., we'll replace it... In short, our favorite slogan is: we'll overtake and surpass! And everything will be as usual: we'll strive and make declarations, but in reality, we'll be wondering where to get a Starlink!

[Tugdual]

Mais il faut obligatoirement orienter l'antenne avec précision en direction du satellite?

[bk316]

I didn't want to write, oh well.
It seems like there are just a bunch of people here who imagine themselves to be experts without understanding anything at all.
So.
A system like this, and not at all an analogue of Starlink, is what first of all needed to be created for the SVO.
Why? Because it costs hundreds of times less than Starlink.
And why?
Because Starlink is thousands of satellites interacting with each other.
And this is for global coverage.
And here there is one satellite, because global coverage is not needed.
Yes, a geostationary satellite.
Because what?
1. You need to be able to amplify the signal. Judging by the article, the problem has been solved.
2. High channel latency (2 tenths of a second) and this cannot be resolved in any way.

And now for the couch potatoes.
1. Channel bandwidth is independent of amplitude. Both a "weak" and a strong signal can be broadband.
2. Noise immunity depends on the amplitude, but modern methods make it possible to solve this problem.
3. Controlling an FPV drone with such latency is difficult, BUT no one installs satellite terminals on FPV systems. It's too expensive. And such channel delays don't interfere with target acquisition.