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Recently, two large-scale sociological surveys were conducted: “Religionsmonitor 2013” (Bertelsmann Foundation; 13 thousands of respondents were interviewed in 14 countries) and “Muslims of the world: unity and differences” (“Pew Research Center”; in 39 countries around the world 38 thousands of interviews were conducted in more than 80 languages). The results of the first survey showed a clear fear of the inhabitants of Western countries against Islam; The results of the second showed that a significant part of Muslims want to introduce Sharia law as official legislation in their countries of residence.


Every second German sees a threat in Islam and believes that this religion is alien to Germany, writes Dmitry Vachedin (Deutsche Welle). According to the results research conducted by the Bertelsmann Foundation (Bertelsmann Stiftung), 51% of Germans see Islam as a threat. Moreover, this opinion is shared by 18% of Muslims living in the country. In eastern Germany, Islam is more skeptical than in western.

The opinion that Islam is fraught with danger, 76% of the Israelis surveyed, 60% of Spaniards, exactly half of Swiss and 42% of Americans shared with the Germans.

Sociologists noted that the rejection of Islam is today a phenomenon of the Western world. The incompatibility of the Islamic worldview and Western values ​​was stated in the survey 50% of the population of Switzerland, reports Anna Kovaleva "Sedmitsa.ru".

30% Indians and 16% South Koreans are also against neighborhood with Islam. In Europe, the highest percentage of rejection of Islam is recorded in Spain and Switzerland, the smallest - in the UK (not so little - 45% of respondents).

But 32% of respondents in Turkey and 27% of Israelis saw a threat in the spread of Christianity in the territories of their countries.

It is noted that the Bertelsman Foundation analyzed the quality of religiosity. According to the findings of researchers, centers of high religiosity is not in Europe. 82% Turks, 74% Brazilians, 70% Indians and 67% Americans consider themselves to be “average”, “pretty” or “very religious” people. Less than others, the Swedes (28%) and the Israelis (31%) are prone to heightened religiosity.

Russian service "Voice of America"based on a report called “Muslims of the world: unity and differences”, spoke about the results of the sociological survey "Pew Research Center".

According to the survey, the majority of the adherents of Islam are deeply religious people, striving to ensure that the teachings of Islam form not only their own lives, but also social life and influence politics. Almost all Muslims claim that Islam is the only true religion leading a person to eternal life in paradise. A significant proportion of Muslims find it desirable to introduce Sharia law as official legislation in their countries of residence.

However, the percentage of supporters of Sharia law varies considerably. Only 8% of respondents were in favor of Sharia in Azerbaijan, but in Afghanistan there are 99% supporters of Sharia among the respondents. In the countries of the Middle East, North Africa, South and Southeast Asia, the majority also advocate for Sharia: 71% in Nigeria, 72% in Indonesia, 74% in Egypt, 84% in Pakistan, and 89% in the Palestinian Authority.

It should be noted that adherents of Islam understand in different ways how to apply Sharia in practice. The majority speak out against cruel punishments: cutting off the hands of thieves or executing those who convert from Islam to another.

In most countries, women, like men, believe that the wife must obey her husband without question. This was reported by 92% of Iraqis, the same number of Moroccans, 93% of those polled in Tunisia, 94% in Afghanistan and 96% in Malaysia.

Around the world, most Muslims speak out against suicide bombings. Meanwhile, a significant number of respondents consider violence as permissible in certain cases: this is what 26% Muslims with whom sociologists have spoken in Bangladesh, 29% in Egypt, 39% in Palestine, and so think.

Russia was among the 39 countries covered by the Pew Research Center.

Boris Falikov (Gazeta.ru) indicates that the "Drink" study has mainly affected those states where the followers of Islam constitute the majority of the population. In Russia, where they are a minority, the sample was adjusted to take into account the compact residence of Muslims: in the Volga region, Siberia and the North Caucasus.

It turned out that 42% of respondents wanted the official introduction of Sharia in Russia. For comparison: in the former Soviet republics such a turn of affairs would be arranged by a noticeably smaller number of Muslims: in Kyrgyzstan - 35%, in Tajikistan - 27%, and in Kazakhstan - 10%.

Of the Russian Muslims who dream of introducing sharia, 22% believes that it should be extended to people of a different faith. For comparison: in Egypt such willing - two thirds. Does Russia want to be like Egypt, another question.

Among ardent supporters of the use of Sharia in Russia, 26% advocated beating stupid women with stones (in Pakistan and Afghanistan, the same was supported by 89% and 85%, respectively). Similar to the Russian percentage noted in Kosovo and Albania: there with unfaithful wives are similarly prepared to sort out 25% of respondents.

Democracy Russian Muslims do not welcome. Its supporters in the country serves only 35%. More than half advocate for a strong leader. Here they are surpassed by Kyrgyz neighbors who cherish the dream of a real leader (64% of Muslims surveyed). However, in the overwhelming majority of countries where the survey was conducted, Muslims unanimously advocate democracy. In Kosovo and Albania it is supported by 76% and 69%.

The idea of ​​the participation of religious leaders in politics in Russia is supported by 58% Muslims. Only Egypt and Jordan (in terms of 80%) constitute strong competition for Russia here.

A small number of sexually liberated representatives were found among the Muslims surveyed. Fornication sex justified 10% of respondents. In general, in Islamic countries this indicator tends to zero. In Tajikistan, it is zero.

The fact that the wife should always obey her husband, in Russia, insists 69%. But among Tajiks, 89% are sure of this, and in Afghanistan, 94% are Muslims.

Russian Muslims are hardly well integrated into society, writes Boris Falikov. Most of them are close friends of co-religionists (78%).

Returning to Europe, we note that the fear of total Islamization is caused not only by the threats of terrorism or the notorious incompatibility of the Islamic worldview and Western values. As Elena Petrova reminds ("Results"), against the background of the phobia of the inhabitants before Islam in Europe, the construction of mosques is in full swing. In France, they are already 2300, and in the United States over the past thirteen years, more than 1200 has been built. If everything goes on at such a pace, the columnist writes, then Christians in Europe will have to be recorded as minorities.

2013 year clearly set a record for the number of mosques being built in the West. "Vesti" They write that in Ireland today one of the largest Muslim temples is being built - for 64 million euros. Megame-cheek will soon be built in Belgian Liege: with a library, café, shops. Giant cult complex worth 40 million euros is about to replenish Munich. Minarets in Luxembourg, Switzerland and Spain grow like mushrooms after rain. And ahead of the rest of the world - the Greek government is bankrupt: it is going to spend a million euros to build the first official mosque in Athens. And this is only the beginning! Resource Islam News, referring to the newspaper "Ethnos", recently reported that the authorities of Athens are going to build one or even two mosques in each area of ​​the city. In the capital of Greece may appear fifteen Muslim temples.

In short, Europeans are now afraid of the same thing that has been fervently preaching for several decades: multiculturalism and tolerance.

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  1. Denis
    Denis 16 May 2013 07: 21 New
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    Islam can no longer be stopped, they will be everywhere and really is a matter of time.
    1. vadimus
      vadimus 16 May 2013 08: 23 New
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      Kaput geyrope generally. Too west began to play in homosexuality and other nasty things. No values ​​left.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 16 May 2013 09: 21 New
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        judging by the flag does not let the west go?
      2. Russian
        Russian 16 May 2013 09: 32 New
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        Kaput geyrope generally. Too west began to play in homosexuality and other nasty things. No values ​​left.


        In our country, you can think of a better situation. They dirtied everything at home, and we were persecuted for many years, and we have always been a shield from the Muslim world! Well, soon it will probably be like in the Middle Ages, Europe under the East, I would like to believe that we will not have such a scenario, although this also works.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 16 May 2013 12: 53 New
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          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          we have always been a shield from the Muslim world!

          Since when? The first enclaves inhabited by Muslims on the territory of Russia appeared in the 15th century (Kasimov Tatars). Since the time of Ivan the Terrible, Muslims have constituted a significant part of the country's population. Our authorities have always respected their religious rights. From the very beginning, Muslim military formations participated in the wars that Russia waged with the West (Tatars, "Wild Division in the 1st World War, etc.).
      3. Bort radist
        Bort radist 16 May 2013 11: 09 New
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        Quote: vadimus
        Too west played too much

        Can you smell the cadaver?
        Do you hear vultures grumble?
        It rots the West.
        This is the sunset of Europe.
        Instead of blond beast
        A bureaucrat reigns everywhere.
        Guys overwhelmed
        We went to a gay parade.
        European hurries soon
        To get to my door
        So as not to ra ...
        From Arabs and Pakistanis.
        Emelin.
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 16 May 2013 12: 22 New
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        Quote: vadimus
        Kaput geyrope generally. Too west began to play in homosexuality and other nasty things. No values ​​left.


        Kaput, no, but the civil war there will be glorious. And what will end ... yes, most likely the fact that Europe will become the 52nd United States ...
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 16 May 2013 12: 56 New
          +1
          It will all end with Europe becoming a part of the new Muslim "Caliphate", and very soon (in some 25-30 years).
          1. Rider
            Rider 16 May 2013 13: 25 New
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            Quote: yurta2013
            It will all end with Europe becoming part of the new Muslim "Caliphate"


            very very controversial.
            the fact is that the tearing apart of Europe is a process imposed, not natural.
            and to Muslimize the part of the world that for centuries has been preaching genocide and intolerance, this is on the verge of fantasy.
            Europoids (gee gee) CONSCIOUSLY lead to the brink, followed by another reconquista.

            war will certainly be, but the MOSQUE OF THE PARIS OF GOD'S MOTHER will remain a fantastic novel.
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 16 May 2013 15: 05 New
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              Quote: Rider
              the tyrannizing of Europe is a process imposed, not natural.

              It is difficult to consider imposed what is supported (or supported) by the majority of the population.
              Quote: Rider
              Muslim part of the world that for centuries has been preaching genocide and intolerance, it is on the verge of fantasy.

              Do you think that Muslims are not capable of genocide and intolerance? A historical example is the genocide of Armenians by Turks and Kurds in 1915.
              Quote: Rider
              war will certainly be, but the MOSQUE OF THE PARIS OF GOD'S MOTHER will remain a fantastic novel.

              I am afraid that given the current political state of Europe, the reconquista may start too late. The Muslim population maintains very high rates of reproduction, while the native Europeans have long been holding back the natural decline in their numbers only due to the success of medicine. But its possibilities are not endless. In a very short time, the mass extinction of the old people of the generation born before World War II will begin and the number of native Europeans will quickly begin to decline (give birth to few). In some 2-30 years, Muslims in Europe will make up the majority and rebuild it in their own image and likeness. The resistance of the "national minorities" will be suppressed by the forces of the state.
              1. Rider
                Rider 16 May 2013 15: 32 New
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                Quote: yurta2013
                It is difficult to consider imposed what is supported (or supported) by the majority of the population


                Yes, it’s precisely that not by the majority, you haven’t watched the recent protests against gay marriage in France?
                and there, over a MILLION people took to the streets, only the democratic "free" media kept silent about it.

                as you can see, there is no mention of any MOST.
                it all comes from the top.
                as in Russia where the article for inciting ethnic hatred is called Russian.
                and there, color ORDERS are left untouched.

                Do you think that Muslims are not capable of genocide and intolerance?


                even as capable, but the conversation is now about nations that for centuries have considered themselves the center of civilization. and the destiny of other nations was seen as a service to oneself beloved.
                genes, you can’t just throw them away wink

                I'm afraid that with the current political situation in Europe, the reconquest may begin too late


                SO THIS IS EVERYTHING AND CALCULATED!
                if you start the process of "cleansing" now (when the percentage of non-Europeans is low) then everything will be over in a couple of years at the most.
                The true organizers of the world's mess need a butch for decades, when ALL of the old world and the rest of Eurasia will deplete themselves demographically.

                for this purpose they cultivate tolerance so that they endure TILL THE LAST.
                1. yurta2013
                  yurta2013 17 May 2013 11: 48 New
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                  Quote: Rider
                  you haven’t watched the protests against gay marriage in France for a week? and there over MILLION people took to the streets

                  Speaking out against same-sex marriage is not yet against multiculturalism. By the way, among the anti-gay protesters there were also Muslims who do not allow this at all. As for the fact that it will soon be too late for Europe to "cleanse itself" - I completely agree.
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 16 May 2013 15: 55 New
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                Quote: yurta2013

                Do you think that Muslims are not capable of genocide and intolerance? A historical example is the genocide of Armenians by Turks and Kurds in 1915.

                Of course not capable !!
                There was no religious incitement in that tragedy, but the issue of betrayal and mass killings by Armenians in the rear of women and children of Turks and Kurds!
                Here in detail
                http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoci

                da-armyan-1915.html # comment-id-1112725
                1. Rider
                  Rider 16 May 2013 16: 01 New
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                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Of course not capable !!


                  I knew that you pull yourself up!

                  wink
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 16 May 2013 16: 09 New
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                    Quote: Rider
                    I knew that you pull yourself up!

                    Yes, I just know this question very well!
                    Go to Turkey to the city of Igdir, there is a museum for the victims of Armenian bandits, look at those horrors !!
                    in my country they also did the same atrocities!
                2. Seraph
                  Seraph 16 May 2013 23: 12 New
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                  With a light movement of the hand, the genocide of the Armenians turns into the genocide of the Turks. Poor defenseless Turkish women ....
                3. Mairos
                  Mairos 17 May 2013 09: 49 New
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                  You are an idealist, sir. Muslims successfully slaughter and blow up each other (Sunni Shiites). And what to say about the "infidels". It's just that, excuse me, the Muslims had no strength for a long time. And if you remember how the Arabs rode around the world in the 7-9 centuries? And what if you remember the times of the Ottoman Empire and their violent Muslimization of other peoples? And their janissaries?
                  And now, do not blame me, it was Islam that generated Wahhabism from itself - a radical and aggressive trend with a claim to world domination.
                  And it was the Muslim Krymchaks and Muslim Turks who stole and sold the Russians.
                4. armandos
                  armandos 17 May 2013 23: 46 New
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                  Eh, Yarbay-Yarbay. Link to this article, you yourself and drown. Well, you can't be so bloodthirsty that the blood veil clouded your eyes so that you didn't even understand the essence of Obama's message. Your atrocities are undeniable, remember this and try to exchange the "stupid" hatred for at least a bit of reason.
          2. mr.Man
            mr.Man 17 May 2013 00: 21 New
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            It will all end with Europe becoming a part of the new Muslim "Caliphate", and very soon (in some 25-30 years).
            I agree with the sim and maybe this will happen even earlier ...
            In some beloved, MelkoBritania is fired from work for wearing a cross on their work, and in Holland-Belgium it is easier to build a mosque than a church ...
            Tolerance...
        2. MVS
          MVS 16 May 2013 13: 20 New
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          Quote: Geisenberg
          Kaput, no, but the civil war there will be glorious. And what will end ... yes, most likely the fact that Europe will become the 52nd United States ...

          And what is 51?
          1. Rider
            Rider 16 May 2013 13: 48 New
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            Quote: MVS
            And what is 51?



            England

            laughing
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 16 May 2013 16: 55 New
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          Quote: Geisenberg
          Yes, most likely the fact that Europe will become the 52nd United States ...

          Oh! I doubt it. But will the US states themselves?
          1. elvira
            elvira 16 May 2013 20: 27 New
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            "Oh! I doubt it. And the US states themselves will be?"
            No ... Everywhere China will be ... lol
        4. Prorox
          Prorox 16 May 2013 18: 28 New
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          Geisenberg
          but civil war there will be glorious


          Europe is not united and the war cannot be civil by definition, no matter how much the euro would like the officials and fans of the euro unity. Yes, the mess will be serious, pindo-si children (nervously smoke on the sidelines) compared to the "old Europe", as a result of the arrival of a new "Fuhrer". Only now, not bought with Americans' money, for a specific purpose (attack on the USSR), but ideological for the revival and "cleansing of Europe", destroying tens of millions is not such a big deal for them (it has been proven repeatedly), religion, nationality does not matter.
    2. dark_65
      dark_65 16 May 2013 08: 34 New
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      If you are silent, then yes.
      If it is hard to put in place, then no.
      You live in places of historical resettlement, confess, in a foreign area, in Mordas. If Christians are thumping on Muslim territory, let them be ready for "beating" with sticks.
      How do we drink, no need to explain, But the question is, percentage of Christians and Muslims in Russia?
      According to a sociological study conducted in August 2012 in 79 out of 83 subjects of the Russian Federation, religiosity among Russians, the total number of which is 143,2 million, was distributed as follows: [9] [10]
      58,8 million or 41% - Orthodox believers
      9,4 million or 6,5% - Muslims (including Sunnis, Shiites, and mostly not belonging to a particular Muslim denomination)
      5,9 million or 4,1% - Christians who do not belong to a particular denomination
      2,1 million or 1,4% - other Orthodox (including parishioners of the Georgian, Serbian, Armenian apostolic and other churches)
      1,7 million or 1,1% are followers of Tengrianism (Turkish-Mongolian ruen shamanistic religions and new religious movements) or neopaganism (including Rodnoverie, Ural and Caucasian neopaganism)
      700 or 000% - Buddhism (mainly Tibetan)
      400 or 000% - Old Believers
      300 or 000% - Protestants
      140 - Indians and Hare Krishnas
      140 - Catholics
      140 - Jews
      18 - Baha'is (in 990) [2005]
      36 million or 25,1% - “spiritual, but not religious”
      18 million or 12.9% - non-religious (English) and atheists

      And they will forbid me to believe in Christ? Those who slammed the doctrine practically one to one? Yes, even by force?

      But Moscow is a completely different thing-
      According to the RBC magazine (No. 11, 2007), the national and ethnic composition of Moscow is as follows:
      Russian - 31%
      Azeris - 14%
      Tatars, Bashkirs, Chuvash - 10%
      Ukrainians - 8%
      Armenians - 5%
      Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Kyrgyz - 5%
      Koreans, Chinese, Vietnamese - 5%
      Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingushs - 4%
      Belarusians - 3%
      Georgians - 3%
      Moldovans - 3%
      Roma - 3%
      Jews - 2%
      other nations - 4%
      More than 11 million people live in Moscow, including Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and all together - 4.620.000. In the capital of the State of Russia, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Russians are a national minority!
      1. domokl
        domokl 16 May 2013 08: 44 New
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        Quote: dark_65
        You live in places of historical resettlement, confess, in a foreign locality, in Mordas. If Christians drink on Muslim territory, let them be ready for "beating" with sticks
        Interesting position. One of the features of our country since Soviet times was the mobility of the population. He graduated from the institute and left for distribution. No one ever asked what kind of faith you were. Time passed, a person grew up for example to Tatarstan. His house is there, friends there, there are graves there, but he is Russian Orthodox. And what? Does he have to convert to Islam?
        We take extremes all the time. However, in the same Moscow on Poklonnaya Gora there is a mosque and a church nearby, in Kazan they are nearby and what? Does anyone suffer from this? And the soldiers also lie in mass graves ... together ...
        1. dark_65
          dark_65 16 May 2013 09: 17 New
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          They misunderstood if the Russians, living, say in the Baltic for decades, do not know the language of the area, this is cheap snobbery, as well as with customs.
          It is necessary to respect the place of residence, then they will respect you.
          But one cannot forget one’s roots, one’s faith.
          1. 755962
            755962 16 May 2013 10: 19 New
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            Not enough rigidity in solving the problem?
            1. Zhaman-Urus
              Zhaman-Urus 16 May 2013 12: 07 New
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              It seems from the Anglo-Saxons, only she has eggs!
              1. Hleb
                Hleb 16 May 2013 19: 59 New
                +6
                this woman has nothing to do with these words .. it was hotly discussed in Australian society and in fact Peter Costello spoke about it - an Australian politician. in the news it looked like this

                read more about it here
                http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/australia.asp
            2. Suvorov000
              Suvorov000 16 May 2013 12: 32 New
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              Do you know that? Have you ever read or heard that a certain
              Islamic political leader or prime minister visited Japan? You
              have ever come across news that the King, the Prime Minister of Iran
              or did the prince of saudi arabia visit japan? Japan is a country
              holding Islam in fear. Japan has set strict restrictions on
              Islam is for ALL Muslims in general! Reasons: a). Japan -
              the only nation that does not give Muslims citizenship. b) AT
              Japan forbids permanent residence for Muslims. c) Set
              ban on any spread of Islam in Japan. d) In university
              Japan not taught Arabic or other Islamic language
              state. e.) it is forbidden to import the 'Quran' published in Arabic
              language. f) According to a regulation established by the Japanese government -
              only a limited number of Muslims have temporary residence
              who are required to strictly comply with Japanese law. These
              Muslims must speak Japanese and fulfill their
              religious rituals only in their homes. g) Japan is the only one
              a country in the world with so few embassies
              Islamic countries.
              h) There are no Japanese professing Islam at all. i).
              Muslims residing in Japan are only foreign employees
              companies. j). Even today Muslim visas are not granted
              Doctors, engineers, or managers sent by foreign companies.
              k). Most companies indicate in the instructions that Muslims do not
              can get a job there. l). Japanese government adheres to
              opinions that Muslims are fundamentalists and even in the era of globalization,
              they do not want to change their Muslim laws. m). Muslims are not
              may even dream of renting a house in Japan. n). If anyone finds out
              addition, his neighbor is Muslim then the whole area comes in
              excitement. o). No one can create an Islamic cell or Arabic
              'Medrese' in Japan p). there are no staff representatives in Japan (Sharia)
              the law. q). If a Japanese woman marries a Muslim then
              she is considered an outcast forever. r). According to a statement by Mr. Komico Yagi
              (Head of the Department of Tokyo University) “in Japan, there is an opinion that Islam is a very narrow-minded religion, and everything related to
              her." s) Freelance journalist for the newspaper Mohammed Juber toured many after 9/11, including Japan. He found out: the Japanese were sure
              that extremists could not and could not harm Japan. Now you know why ...
              __________________________________________________________ __ _Secret
              Happiness is in Freedom, The Secret of Freedom is in Courage_.



              After the war, the Japanese took the strongest vaccine against fascism. The Japanese clearly associate Islam and fascism. That is why in Japan, Islam (Muhammadanism) is banned as well as Hitlerism.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 06 New
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                Quote: Suvorov000
                Reasons: a). Japan -
                the only nation that does not give Muslims citizenship

                All this is a lie!
                My neighbor has been living in Japan for 14 years, has Japanese citizenship, works as a doctor in a well-known clinic, a Muslim !! His children also live in the same Muslims!
                You wrote nonsense!
                1. Suvorov000
                  Suvorov000 16 May 2013 14: 23 New
                  +2
                  Read carefully first, everything is written, then ask your neighbor on what conditions he was able to obtain Japanese citizenship, and then carry nonsense
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 16 May 2013 15: 48 New
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                    photo of the Tokyo mosque!
                    In 1909, the initiative was taken to build the first mosque in Tokyo (and Japan in general), but it was built only 30 years later - on the birthday of the Prophet Muhammad, May 12, 1938. The construction was financed by various Japanese foundations and organizations. In China, in Harbin, in the territory under the Japanese administration, in 1937 the construction of the mosque, begun in 1922, was also completed. In 1934-1935, a mosque was built in Kobe, where a large group of emigrant Tatars lived. In total, at least 1930 Muslims of Turkic origin, mainly emigrants from the USSR, were in Japan in the second half of the 600s. In Japan and in the territory of China, occupied by Japanese troops, newspapers were published for Muslims; The state supported various projects aimed at developing an Islamic worldview among emigrants and Muslims in northeastern China, since Islamic nationalism was to be used to fight the USSR. In 1938, an elderly Tatar Islamist émigré who served in the service of Japanese intelligence for many years, Abdurashid Ibrahimov became imam of the Tokyo Mosque and chairman of the Dai Nippon Kaykyokyokai Society, the state Islamic organization in Japan. After the death of Ibragimov, the place of the imam is taken by Abdulay Kurban Ali (1889-1972).
                    In 1953, Muslim Tatars living in Japan received Turkish citizenship, after which many of them emigrated to Turkey, the United States and Australia, as a result of which the Muslim community of Japan was significantly reduced. In 1974, the Japan Muslim Federation was established. In 1985, the building of the Tokyo Mosque was demolished in order to make way for a new one. Currently, in Japan there are 30-40 small mosques and about a hundred Muslim prayer rooms.
                    Since 1985, in connection with the arrival of foreign workers in Japan, primarily from Bangladesh and Iran, the number of Muslims has increased markedly, while the number of Japanese who have adopted this religion is also increasing.
                    Sumei Okawa, a writer and extreme right-wing public figure who, after the end of the Second World War before the international tribunal as a war criminal, was imprisoned during the trial, made the first translation of the Koran into Japanese.
                    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BC_%D0%B2_%D0%AF%D0%BF%
                    D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B8

                    In the 70s, the Islamic appeal received a new impetus: lectures and seminars were held throughout the country; Muslim literature in large numbers is published in Japanese; Hajj trips are organized the Arab Islamic Institute opens in Tokyo, operating on the basis of the Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud Islamic University.
                    With all the certainty, this period can be called a breakthrough time in the Islamic appeal in Japan. A decade ago, the number of Muslims in the country did not exceed 3 thousand people, and in the 70s it already numbered tens of thousands. The concept of "Islam" (in Japanese "is-ram" due to the lack of the letter "l" in the Japanese alphabet) was included in Japanese dictionaries.
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 16 May 2013 15: 57 New
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                      In the early 80s, King Khalid Ibn Abdulaziz Alu Saud acquired land in Tokyo for the construction of a major Islamic center. The construction was financed by the emirs of Naif Ibn Abdulaziz and Ahmad Ibn Abdulaziz.
                      The new 6-storey center in Tokyo has become a center of attraction for many Japanese people who want to get to know Islam more closely and expand their knowledge of Muslim civilization. Among the visitors to the center are many professors, journalists, television people, students and ordinary Japanese. Many people who received information about Islam in the Tokyo center became Muslims. The Islamic Center in Tokyo continues to perform its functions to this day.
                      A beautiful mosque was built in Nagoya, where a Muslim temple was destroyed by bombs of World War II. It was built on the money of a Pakistani businessman Abdulvahhab Kuraishi. Near the mosque, an entrepreneur built a school for Muslim children. With the assistance of patrons, mosques were built in other Japanese cities.
                      In May 2000, the Tokyo Islamic Center, with the assistance of the Organization of the Islamic Conference and Saudi and Kuwait Charitable Foundations, hosted a forum at the United Nations University in Tokyo to mark the centenary of Islam in Japan. It was attended by Muslim delegations from other countries, senior guests from Saudi Arabia, representatives of the Japanese Foreign Ministry, academia and the intelligentsia.
                      During this period, annual Muslim youth camps are spreading in Japan, to which leaders and members of youth Muslim organizations from all over the country come. The camps play the role of annual informal Muslim forums, serve to educate young people, unite and coordinate the activities of Muslim structures, and strengthen relations between followers of Islam within Japan and abroad.
                      Japan is a country with an ancient distinctive culture and rich traditions. Such concepts as racism, intolerance, xenophobia and other social vices are alien to Japanese society, despite the turbid wave of Islamophobia, which, having formed far beyond the ocean, has recently been constantly falling like Japanese tsunamis on the Japanese islands. But the inhabitants of the land of the rising sun from time immemorial have courageously opposed natural and social disasters. The friendly relations between Japan and the Islamic world, rooted in history, today serve as reliable protection against Islamophobia. In a televised speech, the Japanese foreign minister said: “In order to get an idea of ​​Muslims and find ways to interact with them, we must first understand Islam as it really is.” This phrase today instills faith in the hearts of Japanese Muslims of tomorrow, gives them fresh strength to build up for the good of their homeland, and makes their often difficult, but extremely important work on the path of Allah even more significant.
                      Salih Samirai - Chairman of the Islamic Center of Japan
                      http://www.whyislam.ru/statii/islam-v-yaponii.htm
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 16 May 2013 16: 07 New
                        0
                        after the tsunami in Indonesia
                      2. Anti
                        Anti 16 May 2013 21: 25 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        after the tsunami in Indonesia


                        Well, so they were not built mosques from palm branches What is surprising here?
                        wink
                      3. fortunophile
                        fortunophile 16 May 2013 21: 28 New
                        +2
                        Vinka world?
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                      5. Apollo
                        Apollo 16 May 2013 21: 39 New
                        +3
                        Quote: fortuneophile
                        Vinka world?


                        Yeah laughing

        2. yurta2013
          yurta2013 16 May 2013 13: 11 New
          +7
          Japan is perhaps the only major country that pays great attention to preserving its national roots. This guarantees it from all kinds of national and religious conflicts and related terrorist attacks and other lawlessness. However, this is favored by the fact that Japan was a mono-ethnic country from the very beginning, as well as an island situation, which in the past made it difficult for foreigners to enter its territory.
          1. matross
            matross 16 May 2013 14: 42 New
            +3
            Quote: yurta2013
            This guarantees it against all kinds of national and religious conflicts and related terrorist attacks and other lawlessness.

            Asaharu and the attack in the subway where you attribute?
            Quote: yurta2013
            insular situation, which hindered the entry of foreigners into its territory in the past.

            Japan is not an island of Britain! But Britain is more tolerant. Feel the difference!
            1. yurta2013
              yurta2013 16 May 2013 15: 22 New
              +4
              Quote: matRoss
              Asaharu and the attack in the subway where you attribute?

              Asahara is the leader of an extremist religious sect formed on Japanese soil. I meant the traditional religions of the world and sects of non-Japanese origin. The Japanese have their own traditions of mutual annihilation, like almost all other peoples of the world.
              Quote: matRoss
              Japan is not an island of Britain! But Britain is more tolerant.

              The difference is that in addition to the Japanese, no nations moved to Japan. Apparently, due to the larger number and militancy in comparison with the closest neighbors (Koreans, Ainu). The British, as a nation, were formed by mixing different alien peoples and languages ​​(Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Normans and French). This is the secret of its greater tolerance.
            2. Mairos
              Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 00 New
              +1
              In the stump tolerance on the European model.
          2. ivanovfarit
            ivanovfarit 17 May 2013 00: 55 New
            +1
            But what about Aum Shinrikyo?
        3. piterkras
          piterkras 16 May 2013 19: 28 New
          +1
          It has long been all refuted.
        4. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 16 May 2013 19: 35 New
          +3
          and Pakistanis are holding used cars, they must have become Taoists
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        6. basil200
          basil200 23 May 2013 10: 34 New
          0
          All Arab countries drive Japanese cars. They say in Japan there is a parking lot for delivery to Arab countries. So say the distillers. For an additional fee they take cars from there.
  2. commentor
    commentor 16 May 2013 10: 08 New
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    Do you know the quran?
    No more free religion.
    Islam allows you to turn adepts at any extreme.
    A peaceful, faithful Muslim family lives, and has been friends with Christians for years. At one terrible moment, takfirists come and say: "Listen, why don't you follow the command of the Ummah, bismillah, look, you have everything written in the Koran. Allah expects from us deeds, not words, in sha Allah."

    A Muslim looks, indeed, everything is written there: to fight, kill, prefer Muslims to infidels, prefer Allah to their loved ones, his life costs nothing without faith. Despise the Jews, despise the Christians for their kufr.

    The most common question among young peaceful Muslims is: "Can I tell my friends that they are infidels?" The most common answer is: "Choose Muslims as your friends, but exhort infidels."
    1. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 16 May 2013 10: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: commentor
      No more freedom of religion
      - correctly! Therefore, we will see the Koran as Russia needs it! But what, what are we worse than the rest? May Russia grow and prosper! Allagu Akbar!
      1. commentor
        commentor 16 May 2013 10: 55 New
        +4
        It is necessary to devote more strength to the spiritual education of people. Religion today remains the most formidable weapon and, unfortunately, now it has color. People began to divide each other into good and bad.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 16 May 2013 11: 07 New
        +2
        Many people judge Islam by watching TV of various ter. acts, etc. But everyone has radicals. The terrorist Breivik, the Sikh explosives who had shaken India for decades, and the poisoners from the Aum Shinrikyo were by no means Muslims. In fact, the Qur'an mentions with deep respect Jesus (the prophet Isa), Moses (the prophet Musa), and "semavi dinler" - (religions sent from above) - that is, Christianity and Judaism, in contrast to idolatry, along with Islam are sacred. Islam is really the religion of the world, and before expressing an opinion, it is useful at least in general terms to have an idea of ​​the Koran. That is, first-hand, and not different "interpreters" there. LET PEACE BE WITH YOU!
        1. karbofos
          karbofos 16 May 2013 13: 37 New
          +5
          tell this to people who, like rams, are screaming alah akbar. in your Koran, slavery is registered, including sexual slavery. In countries where there is Sharia, people are afraid not of God but of the Sharia court.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 51 New
            -3
            Quote: kalbofos
            tell this to people who, like rams, are screaming alah akbar

            These are criminals and if they do not answer before the law, then they will definitely answer before the Almighty!
            Quote: kalbofos
            e. in countries where there is Sharia, people are afraid not of God but of the Sharia court.

            It is not true!!
            1. karbofos
              karbofos 17 May 2013 00: 38 New
              +2
              [quote = Yarbay] These are criminals and if they do not answer before the law, then they will answer before the Almighty!
              It’s a pity that there are not hundreds or thousands of them, but hundreds of thousands already, and this is spreading around the world.


              [quote = Yarbay] This is not true !!

              in those places where Shariah are afraid of God (and other tracking and reproductive organs) are unnecessary

              Z.Y. By the way, who are Sunni or Shiite and your attitude towards slavery in Islam? Saudi Arabia, where Mecca is located - the main shrine of Muslims, officially abolished slavery in 1962 !!! But this is official !!!
            2. armandos
              armandos 18 May 2013 15: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: Yarbay
              It is not true!!

              Damn, what a truth!
          2. elvira
            elvira 16 May 2013 20: 32 New
            0
            "Tell this to people who are slaughtered like rams with shouts of alah akbar. In your Koran, slavery is spelled out including sexual slavery. In countries where there is Sharia, people fear not God but the Sharia court."
            Christianity in youth also showed maximalism ...
        2. Cheloveck
          Cheloveck 17 May 2013 03: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: xetai9977
          Islam is really the religion of the world, and before expressing an opinion, it is useful to have at least a general idea of ​​the Koran. That is, first-hand, and not different "interpreters" there.

          Golden words!
          True, not all, but only those that are useful to familiarize yourself with the Qur'an.
          And what can you see by reading the Qur'an?
          A lot of interesting things!
          For example, the fact that it turns out that there is no ban on alcohol in the Qur'an, there is only a restriction on its consumption ...
          "They ask you about wine and gambling. Say:" In both of them there is a great sin and some benefit for people, but their sin is more useful. "(2: 219)
          "O you who have believed! Do not pray when you are drunk until you understand what you are saying ..." (4: 43).
          "O you who have believed! The intoxicating drink, gambling, [sacrifices] on stone altars [and divination] by arrows are bad deeds [inspired] by the Shaitan! Avoid this, perhaps you will succeed." (5: 90).
          "From the fruit of the palms and vineyards you receive good food and drink: verily, in this is a sign for men of understanding." (16:67)
          So, there are four verses, two forbidding and two permissive, and, allowing later ones ...

          The same picture is observed with everything else.
          Choose what to be guided by, peace or war ...
          True, there is one small nuance: Islam must spread to the whole world.
          How?
          Yes, anyone!
          End justifies the means.
      3. Uncle
        Uncle 16 May 2013 14: 28 New
        +4
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        Therefore, we will see the Koran as Russia needs it!

        I will support.
      4. Mairos
        Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 04 New
        +1
        I wish we all learn to respect each other and get along with each other next to each other. So far, it doesn’t work out very well, unfortunately. Speaking about the prosperity of Russia often implies each his own.
      5. armandos
        armandos 18 May 2013 00: 23 New
        +2
        Well done! It should be so. This is our country and we (Christians and Muslims of Russia) will protect it from all aggressive evil spirits, be it Englishman, Americanos or the devil himself.
    2. alan_07
      alan_07 16 May 2013 10: 30 New
      +1
      At one terrible moment, takfirists come and say: "Listen, why don't you follow the command of the Ummah, bismillah, look, you have everything written in the Koran. Allah expects from us deeds, not words, in sha Allah."
      I think so say those who converted to Islam just for the sake of showing off, Islam forbids any kind of violence, like any other religion. Kafirs, munafiks, etc. Now we can consider in different ways, because times are changing, and Islam is more than 1400 years old. I believe that you just need not to do harm to anyone and be pure in your heart, forgive and understand.
      1. commentor
        commentor 16 May 2013 11: 19 New
        +9
        Quote: alan_07
        I think so say those who converted to Islam just for the sake of showing off, Islam forbids any kind of violence, like any other religion. Kafirs, munafiks, etc. Now we can consider in different ways, because times are changing, and Islam is more than 1400 years old.


        First of all, Muslims themselves must repulse negative trends so that people see the power of religion, understand it and can trust it.

        Now in all Muslim communities, the idea of ​​extremism as an integral part of the faith is parasitic. You can’t cultivate aggression, Muslims must explain to people why their faith is true and not dominate others.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: commentor
          First of all, Muslims themselves must repulse negative trends so that people see the power of religion, understand it and can trust it.

          the question is that the rebuff is also very tough, but it’s not covered in Russian or in the Western media!
          There are dozens of fatwas of famous scholars about blowing up haraam, but they are not published !! Wahhabists are advertised, they are called Salafists all over the world and they are like they don’t know Islam and often lie to people !!
          By spreading lies even a Muslim is set up against Muslims!

          Here are examples of exposing the lies of the Wahhabi Shaitanists !!
          Is it about such things that they write and light somewhere?


          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 32 New
            +1
            Here is another example


          2. Rider
            Rider 16 May 2013 13: 36 New
            +4
            here I am with you, dear opponent, completely agree.
            from Islam purposefully make a horror story for the layman.

            Islamic peace is belittled and tempted.
            and extremism and militancy in every possible way stick out and ADVERTISE!

            if you look at who finances radical groups, we see that the tracks are in the UAE (fully professing Wahhabism) and which is the BEST FRIEND of WESTERN DEMOCRACIES.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Rider
              Islamic peace is belittled and tempted.
              and extremism and militancy in every possible way stick out and ADVERTISE!

              this is especially true for illiterate youth !!
              Which are not yet strong and do not have knowledge!
              I know how to do it and struggled with it as long as I could!
              Quote: Rider
              if you look at who finances radical groups, we see that the tracks are in the UAE (fully professing Wahhabism) and which is the BEST FRIEND of WESTERN DEMOCRACIES.

              This is also obvious !!
              Quote: Rider
              here I am with you, dear opponent, completely agree.

              Very glad dear)))
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 16 May 2013 14: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: alan_07
        accepted Islam only for the sake of window dressing

        Window dressing is in all religions and non-religions, and not only window dressing, but also delusions. And who is right or wrong, only after death we will understand.
      3. Cheloveck
        Cheloveck 17 May 2013 03: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: alan_07
        I think so say those who converted to Islam just for the sake of showing off, Islam forbids any kind of violence, like any other religion. Kafirs, munafiks, etc. Now we can consider in different ways, because times are changing, and Islam is more than 1400 years old. I believe that you just need not to do harm to anyone and be pure in your heart, forgive and understand.

        Eh hehe ...
        No religion prohibits violence.

        Times are changing, but Islam must remain unchanged, this is a fundamental principle.
        Are you familiar with the concept of "bid"?
    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 13: 14 New
      +4
      Quote: commentor
      Do you know the quran?
      No more free religion.
      Islam allows you to turn adepts at any extreme.

      Does not allow)))
      For this, there is the legacy of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) Hadith, Sunnah!
      Therefore, hundreds of scientists have written thousands of books so that there are no free interpretations !!
      These are illiterate people trying to interpret the Quran in their own way !!
      Quote: commentor
      A Muslim looks, indeed, everything is written there: to fight, kill, prefer Muslims to infidels, prefer Allah to their loved ones, his life costs nothing without faith. Despise the Jews, despise the Christians for their kufr.

      Who is saying, show this ignorant man this letter of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to the monastery of St. Katerina !!

      The promise to the monastery of St. Katerina:
      “This message from Muhammad, the son of Abdullah, may it be an agreement with those who accepted Christianity, far or close, we are with them.
      Truly, I, helpers and my followers protect them, because Christians are our fellow citizens, and by the will of Allah I oppose everything that can offend them.
      No coercion shall apply to them. Just as their judges will not be removed from their posts, so their monks will not be expelled from the monasteries. Nobody will destroy the house of their religion and damage it and will not take away a single thing from it to the homes of Muslims.
      If someone takes this or that thing from there, he will break God's instructions and disobey his prophet. Truly, they are my allies, who have secured my guarantee of security against everything that they hate.
      No one will force them to move from place to place or participate in battles. Muslims must fight for them. If a Christian marries a Muslim, this should happen only with her consent. It is forbidden to prevent her from attending church for prayers. Their churches should be respected. No need to stop them from rebuilding their churches and maintaining the holiness of their Testaments.
      None of the Muslims shall violate this agreement until the Day of Judgment. ”
      1. Rider
        Rider 16 May 2013 13: 47 New
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        I will say more, after the capture of Constantinople by the Turks, St. Sophia Cathedral was converted into a mosque.
        however, few people know that: HUNDREDS OF MONASTERIES AND TEMPLES ARE SO REMAINED CHRISTIAN!
        and worship in them did not stop

        Compare this with the capture of Jerusalem by the Crusaders, who staged a MASSIVE massacre to Muslims.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 16 May 2013 14: 52 New
          +5
          I completely agree with you. The story is interpreted depending on who benefits from it.
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 16 May 2013 17: 06 New
          +6
          Quote: Rider
          Compare this with the capture of Jerusalem by the Crusaders, who staged a MASSIVE massacre to Muslims.

          Well, now the descendants of the Crusaders and rake in full. Before yelling to the whole world and demanding justice, you need to look at what your people have done in the past. Because unfair acts are returned by a boomerang, if not to you personally, then to your children, grandchildren-great-grandchildren.
          1. karbofos
            karbofos 17 May 2013 01: 30 New
            +2
            and Russia has to do with it. Let the Italians be slaughtered, the Pope is in Italy. And here we have been living peacefully with Russian Muslims for centuries and let's live without Sharia and slavery.
        3. Seraph
          Seraph 16 May 2013 23: 33 New
          +3
          Well, the Crusades ... Europeans do not care who to cut - if only they were at least a little different from the European himself. The atrocities and bloodthirstiness of the so-called "crusaders" are the usual greed, cruelty and narrow-mindedness for the European materialist-atheist. At what, mind you, not a single crusade from the Orthodox East (the wars of Byzantium for its territorial integrity do not count, the Empire fought with the Christian peoples, there is a question of territory, not faith)
      2. dark_65
        dark_65 16 May 2013 17: 42 New
        +2
        Well written, no doubt whether any of the Christians have time to read this letter by heart in Egypt, or say to any fanatic in Syria.
        Nobody is against religions, but today Islam is perverted for their own benefit by all and sundry, .... the only "consolation" is that Christianity took place six hundred years earlier.
      3. armandos
        armandos 18 May 2013 00: 38 New
        0
        It is a pity that you do not listen to such a soulful and worthy letter.
    4. ivanovfarit
      ivanovfarit 17 May 2013 01: 04 New
      +1
      I must say that the Muslim, whom you cited as an example, does not know anything about his religion, does not know not history, not Sunnah. And without a reason for sending it down, it is impossible to interpret the Quran, it’s like tearing it out of context. For example, the Firman of the Prophet Muhammad, given to them by the monastery of Catherine in Egypt. In the name of Allah, the merciful and merciful. This message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah to all Christians, near and far, may it be a guarantee of our unity with them. In this way, I swear an oath to myself, my servants, followers and co-religionists, that from now on I will take Christians by my arm as my countrymen, and undertake in the name of Allah to be their defense against any opponent.
      May no one dare force them to obey, and dare not remove their bishops and expel the monks from their monasteries. May no one dare destroy their prayers at home, harm them and rob them in the name of benefits for Muslims. Let the hearer be declared an oath-perpetrator in the face of Allah and a rebel before his prophet. May Christians be my allies, I swear vowingly to be their protection.
      May no one force them to leave their homes, may they not force them to battle against their will - let Muslims protect them by force of arms. May no one marry a Christian against her will, and prevent her from attending her church. May there be respect for their churches, and no one will hinder their maintenance and cast doubt on the sanctity of their vows. The faithful do not break this oath until the Day of Judgment.
  • valerei
    valerei 16 May 2013 22: 48 New
    -1
    dark_65, - who conducted this case study? Where did 12,9% of atheists come from? I have not conducted such a study, but atheists are found, literally, at every step. You can come to church and do research there, so there will be 100% so what? By the way, atheism is also a belief that there is no divine principle. Any religion is brain dullness, but this does not concern me until the religious fanatics begin to interfere with my life the way I want. By the way, it’s funny to see how the former communists quickly ran to the church to kiss priests hands, including and the leadership of Russia. But, a paradox: in order to confront extreme Islamists, our Orthodox Church must be supported!
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 16 May 2013 12: 21 New
    +4
    Quote: Denis
    Islam can no longer be stopped, they will be everywhere and really is a matter of time.


    Collect snot. Some Chinese with Hindu Sammis are able to grind this Islam 10-20 times, this is without using a firearm - with choppers and hoes.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 16 May 2013 13: 22 New
      +2
      In India, Muslims make up a fairly large percentage of the population. The same is in China. As for the Chinese and Indians abroad, much depends on their ability to preserve their national (and religious) traditions there, which in modern Western countries is quite difficult in itself. It is in the West that Islam in today's conditions (the lack of spirituality of the vast majority of the population) can become widespread.
      1. karbofos
        karbofos 17 May 2013 02: 07 New
        +1
        in India 109 million with a population of 1 billion 200 million, in China 29 million with a population of 1 billion 350 million, so the percentage is small, especially in China.
        1. yurta2013
          yurta2013 17 May 2013 11: 33 New
          0
          I think that the Chinese leadership can play out in its policy of birth control. It is easy to destroy the tradition of large families, but restoring it, at least on a limited scale, is a harder task. It may happen that the Chinese, following the indigenous Europeans, begin to gradually decline in numbers. Too much they got carried away by borrowing from the West. Hindus, squeezed by Muslims from two sides, have long been in a blank defense.
  • w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 16 May 2013 15: 54 New
    +5
    Amers need a big war, otherwise they will have to pay for their debts.
    the basic economies of the world must be destroyed without participating in a real war.
    This is the main goal for the USA.
    for this, a confrontation is made:
    1. Europe is inhabited by Islamists who do not accept pi.do.rastyu
    2. Europe passes laws to support pido.rasov
    3. artificially enhanced moods of jihad (media, Islamic patrols)
    4. the mass of propaganda centers of Islam (mosque) is being built
    5. In the near future a command will be given and the citizens will go to war on their own citizens.

    the battle will be like in Syria, only throughout the geyrop and it is desirable to hook Russia and the Middle East.
    The United States will not participate in real hostilities. the destruction of economies - 100%. again, as after the Second World War, their economy is the most stable against the backdrop of the ruined economies of Europe, the Middle East, Africa and Russia.
    and you can again promote your dollar (amero) as a global and stable currency ...
    I think so.
  • domokl
    domokl 16 May 2013 07: 39 New
    +2
    An interesting article. It only seems to me, not for states such as Russia. Our country is traditionally not only Christian, but also Muslim. Nobody wants to Christianize the Caucasus or Tatarstan? Why?
    Europe and the USA are another matter. For them, the appearance of Muslims with their own culture and customs, frankly, a cultural and moral shock. People who have believed since childhood and infancy that they have the best state structure, the best government, the most correct moral with new, excellent. Moreover, some people realize that this is more suitable for them.
    In many ways, we are talking about Islamization simply by inertia, like we also have it. Migration ensured the influx of Muslims into the traditionally Christian areas, which means the construction of mosques, some changes in traditions and other things.
    The juxtaposition of Islam and Christianity leads to conflicts (and, remembering yesterday, in my article, even local Muslims and immigrants)
    1. gizz
      gizz 16 May 2013 14: 04 New
      +5
      It’s even bad that no one wants to do missionary work, and in general in Orthodoxy today it is not encouraged. And vice versa - all the time. How many Orthodox people lived in Chechnya during the Union? And where are they now?
  • Dima190579
    Dima190579 16 May 2013 07: 48 New
    +2
    Maybe even Muslims will teach Europeans morality if Catholics could not. Or there, too, they will be allowed to rape women who are not devoted to Allah. Then I feel sorry for the Europeans. I would see how NATO will fight with the Chechens.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Dima190579
      . Or there, too, they will be allowed to rape women who are not devoted to Allah.

      This is not permitted in Islam!
      1. karbofos
        karbofos 17 May 2013 02: 22 New
        +1
        [quote = Yarbay] This is not permitted in Islam!

        any normal people are not allowed Islam and Christianity has nothing to do with it. but some imams allow "to rape women not loyal to Allah" (c)
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 06 New
      0
      Already one Islamic "authority" has authorized the rape of "non-Sunni" women in Syria, these monsters, such as "soldiers of Allah for the faith."
  • mogus
    mogus 16 May 2013 07: 53 New
    18
    Islam is the religion of the world.
    But why only Islam is righteous, and the rest should disappear? Why is murder of a non-fellow believer allowed there? Why is the answer to all vital questions a quran? Really oil created allah? Radical Islam is quietly taking root in regions with low education.
    1. domokl
      domokl 16 May 2013 08: 38 New
      0
      Not a specialist in Islam, but at this level I know what you are writing about relates to radicalism. And radicalism is not only Muslim, but also Christian.
      God created with us, God is called Allah in them. And if you take the Koran and the Bible, then after reading it you get the impression of one book. It is simply retold by a person who used to listen to the Bible. Which, in principle, corresponds to historical facts.
      Once, in Afghanistan, the local imam told me - you not only do not know the Quran, but also your Bible. And your God-Jesus Christ in Islam is called the prophet Issa.
      1. mogus
        mogus 16 May 2013 09: 31 New
        +2
        if someone insulted my words, I apologize. Everything I said relates to radicals.
        I read about comparisons. Very similar. Even the dates of the coming of the prophet are the same.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 04 New
          0
          Quote: mogus
          Everything I said relates to radicals.

          Everything you say is related to the illiterate, and not to the radicals !!
          There is no moderate or radical or fundamentalist in Islam!
          There are literate or illiterate!
      2. alan_07
        alan_07 16 May 2013 10: 34 New
        +1
        And there are records of the return of Isa (Christ) to earth, to indicate the right path and help people. It's just that if I write all that is, many will not understand it.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 11 New
          0
          Quote: alan_07
          And there are records about the return of Isa (Christ) to earth, to indicate the right path and help people

          All Muslims know about this !!
      3. Yarbay
        Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        Once in Afghanistan, the local imam told me - you not only do not know the Quran, but also your Bible

        He is right!
        Last year I was in Ivanovka, where the Russian village is where Old Believers Malokans live !!
        I talked with them and found out that in the Christian religion it is forbidden to eat pork !!
        They don’t eat it !! They don’t drink almost, very little, the younger ones honor the elders!
        One of the arguments was that there is no prescription in the Bible in the New Testament that there is, but in the Old Testament it is categorically forbidden !!
        Then I asked the priest about it and he also confirmed and said that they had to turn a blind eye to it when there was a famine in Soviet times !!
        Read Chekhov and other writers when they describe the tables and food of people, you will not find pork among the dishes there !!
        Ask your priest, he will confirm!
        with respect!
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 16 May 2013 14: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          I talked with them and found out that in the Christian religion it is forbidden to eat pork !!

          Alibek, your interlocutor, an Old Believer, is an ignorant person, the Apostle Peter was given a clear indication of what is allowed and what is not. We cannot include animals with non-drained blood, "strangled". And also blood, "hematogen". And the Old Believers themselves, their mass of varieties, are simply schismatics in relation to the Orthodox.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 46 New
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            Quote: Uncle
            And the Old Believers themselves, their mass of varieties, are simply schismatics in relation to the Orthodox.

            I then spoke about this with the glorious priest, he confirmed that it was forbidden to eat pork !!
            Take an interest !!
            1. consul
              consul 16 May 2013 16: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Yarbay
              I then spoke about this with the glorious priest, he confirmed that it was forbidden to eat pork !!


              it was impossible to eat pork before the coming of Christ, then the Apostle Peter (Acts of the Holy Apostles ch. 10 vv. 9-17) was shown what can be eaten and what cannot. And, with regard to Mohammedanism, Jesus Christ said that false Christs would come and false prophets and many will deceive ... Mohammed is Christians for us and is one of the false prophets. The same apostle Paul writes that if even angels speak not what they taught, then there will be an anathema, plus Mohammed’s non-recognition of the Divine Jesus Christ is a testimony that Mohammed is not from God. Heavenly Father can only be reached through the Son (Jesus Christ, the Word of God), this is written in the Gospel. Therefore, Mohammedanism never we Christians will not need, we have everything that is needed to save the soul.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 16 May 2013 17: 38 New
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                Quote: consul
                it was impossible to eat pork before the coming of Christ,

                Are you a priest ??
                Ask this question to the priest !!
                I asked him to the glorious priest, he confirmed that Christian can’t eat pork and he doesn’t eat it !!
                the Bible does not say a word about what kind of food you can eat !!
                And read above Uncle !!
                Better yet, ask the priest!
                1. consul
                  consul 16 May 2013 22: 17 New
                  +2
                  Yes, I am a priest of the Russian Orthodox Church of the Kazan Diocese of the Moscow Patriarchate. Pork in the Old Testament was an unclean animal, so the Jews didn’t eat it, and if it was raised, it was for sale to the Gentiles. That is why the Lord told Peter not to divide it into clean and unclean animals for food.
                2. Cheloveck
                  Cheloveck 17 May 2013 04: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  I asked him to the glorious priest, he confirmed that Christian can’t eat pork and he doesn’t eat it !!
                  the Bible does not say a word about what kind of food you can eat !!

                  I am not a priest, but I carefully read both the OT and the NZ (as, incidentally, the Koran), the ban on pork is contained in the book of Leviticus along with the ungulate hare ( laughing ), in the NC these restrictions are lifted.
                  As for the various kinds of food restrictions among Christians, they remain with some communities, for example, the Coptic and Syrian Orthodox churches.
              2. Uncle
                Uncle 16 May 2013 18: 20 New
                +5
                Quote: consul
                Therefore, Mohammedanism will never be necessary for us Christians, we have everything that is needed to save the soul.

                You are right, but I, the sinner, argue in such a way that if Muslims exist, then it pleases God. After all, everything in the world is ruled by God! And why do we swear over pork, such nonsense.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 16 May 2013 18: 33 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Uncle
                  And why do we swear over pork, such nonsense.

                  Yes, do not swear!
                  I shared what I found out!
                  Your right to ask or just forget!
              3. ivanovfarit
                ivanovfarit 17 May 2013 01: 53 New
                +1
                The very dogma of the Trinity and Divine nature was adopted during the First Council of Constantinople in 381. The Arian movement was against it. But what Newton wrote about this. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1
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          2. ivanovfarit
            ivanovfarit 17 May 2013 01: 44 New
            +1
            But what about the Old Call, is it a guide to action or not? Any cattle with hooves bifurcated and a deep cut on both hooves, and which cattle chews gum, eat it;
            7 just do not eat among those who chew gum and have forked hooves with a deep cut: a camel, a hare and a jerboa, because although they chew the chewing gum, their hooves are not bifurcated: they are unclean to you;
            8 and pigs, because her hooves are bifurcated, but she does not chew gum: she is unclean to you; Do not eat their meat, and do not touch their corpses. (Deuteronomy chapter 14)
    2. DEfindER
      DEfindER 16 May 2013 10: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: mogus
      Radical Islam is quietly taking root in regions with low education.

      That is precisely the whole point, lack of education gives rise to fanaticism, and it doesn’t matter in which religion, it’s just that Islam is better funded than Christianity or Buddhism .. In general, I believe that faith should be kept in oneself at heart, and not get stuck on it, etc. to. religion inhibits progress, and prevents the development of personality. In Europe, the active development of science began precisely when a religion was removed from power, it should be responsible only for spirituality and nothing more .. It amazes me that it is Islam that stands out from all religions with special fanaticism, women adhere to Sharia in clothes, men don’t really drink. In our Christianity, such behavior was like 300 years ago. Actually, I am not aware of any learned Muslim. So I think that with the development of education, any religion will recede into the background, the main thing is that education would not be completely ruined ..
      1. yurta2013
        yurta2013 16 May 2013 13: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: DEfindER
        lack of education breeds fanaticism

        Not certainly in that way. Muslim fanatics, as a rule, also have an education, but a religious one. An example is the Taliban. And our Russian fundamentalist leaders received their education in the countries of the Arab world.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 15 New
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        Quote: DEfindER
        Actually, I am not aware of any learned Muslim.

        These people kept Islam in the most difficult situations and did not retreat before any dictators and villains, because they clouded both knowledge and self-esteem and rejection of the weak humiliation! That is what Islam teaches us!
        As-Sadr was subsequently executed with unbelievable cruelty!

    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 03 New
      -2
      Quote: mogus
      Why is murder of a non-fellow believer allowed there?

      Not allowed!
      Quote: mogus
      But why only Islam is righteous, and the rest should disappear?

      this is also not true!
    4. ivanovfarit
      ivanovfarit 17 May 2013 01: 39 New
      +1
      It is not allowed to kill non-co-religionists. For the given crime on Hanafi law school a similar reward. Looking at some vital issues)) For example, the Koran is not a textbook on chemistry, but it encourages people to study sciences to think and analyze. The first Muslims inspired by this book began to systematize, for example, such sciences as algebra (from the Arabic. الجبر, “al-jabr” - replenishment) and chemistry and other Muslims do not believe, they are more likely convinced that Allah, the One God, and that is how, according to many Orientalists, this word is translated, created everything. Just keep in mind that this is a causal relationship and all the laws of the universe, the laws of physics, etc. are considered as the laws of the One God. Which every Muslim and Muslim must study. The problem is precisely that the Muslims got weaned from orthodox Islam, stopped studying, etc. Those who are behind the attacks, a number of scholars call neo-Harajid. If interested read about Kharijits, I think a lot will become clear to you.
    5. Cheloveck
      Cheloveck 17 May 2013 03: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: mogus
      Islam is the religion of the world.
      But why only Islam is righteous, and the rest should disappear? Why is murder of a non-fellow believer allowed there? Why is the answer to all vital questions a quran? Really oil created allah? Radical Islam is quietly taking root in regions with low education.

      To answer these questions, you need to understand that Islam is not only a religion, but also a way of life and a way of thinking.
      The first priority is to turn the whole world into "dar al Islam", no matter in what way.
      The missionaries of Islam are simply obliged to hush up all the negative aspects, because for this there is a justification in the Koran that lying about "infidels" is not a sin.
      Yes, another interesting point: entrance to Islam is free, and exit at the cost of life. For renunciation of Islam or conversion to another religion, death is due.
    6. Mairos
      Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 10 New
      +1
      Radical Islam ALWAYS takes root in any Islamic society, since there are all kinds of offended and dissatisfied there. Just now, radical Islam is especially visible - aggressive, assertive. Like the crusaders in due time. And, I really hope that it will receive in the face like them.
  • Vanek
    Vanek 16 May 2013 07: 55 New
    +3
    In short, Europeans are now afraid of the same thing that has been fervently preaching for several decades: multiculturalism and tolerance.

    For what, as they say, they fought for something ...

    Regarding Russia, so I think we are not used to it. How many republics were in the USSR. A lot of. And they lived in peace, nearby, went to visit. I think we should not be afraid.
    1. Pit
      Pit 16 May 2013 08: 09 New
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      Quote: Vanek
      I think we should not be afraid.

      But you are in vain. It is worth fearing and even how. And not only to us, but to those Muslims who for centuries have lived in the Russian land, because the influx of migrant workers, with a low level of culture, with no education and radical views, is ruining our Muslims and making the devil understand of local secular Islam what. And when they seduce them to the end, then our Muslims will take on us. But what will they do, the process has already begun and before it is too late, it is necessary to stop it. Otherwise, our grandchildren will definitely go to the mosque if we survive as a species (that’s vryatli)
      1. domokl
        domokl 16 May 2013 08: 48 New
        -4
        Quote: Pit
        the influx of migrant workers, with a low level of culture, nor with any education and radical views, are ruining our Muslims
        Well, from a bad mind to a healthy one ... Our type of Muslims are right, and others are somehow flawed. It's not funny like that.
        So we agree that the Orthodox are more Christians than Catholics, and the Old Believers are generally demigods.
        1. Pit
          Pit 16 May 2013 09: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          So we agree that the Orthodox are more Christians than Catholics, and the Old Believers are generally demigods.

          Yes, you’re right, in every religion gov..a enough. But at the moment, it is Islam that is being discussed and the threats associated with it. And the threat to our society is obvious and it’s just silly to hush up this topic.
          Have you heard anything about "Sharia law" until emigrants from the Arab world settled in Central Asia and the Caucasus and "prophets", "warriors of Allah" and others like them began to reach out to us?
          So, what difference does it make whether they are good or bad, now the task is to preserve what is left and not to let this infection into your home.
          1. krest.ros
            krest.ros 16 May 2013 10: 00 New
            +1
            Yes, you’re right, in every religion gov..a enough.
            I hope your words do not apply to Orthodoxy?
            1. Pit
              Pit 16 May 2013 10: 07 New
              +2
              Quote: krest.ros
              I hope your words do not apply to Orthodoxy?

              It depends on what you consider Orthodoxy.
              And yet, shit ... but it’s not climbing from religion, but from followers.
      2. Yeraz
        Yeraz 16 May 2013 10: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Pit
        Quote: Vanek
        I think we should not be afraid.

        But you are in vain. It is worth fearing and even how. And not only to us, but to those Muslims who for centuries have lived in the Russian land, because the influx of migrant workers, with a low level of culture, with no education and radical views, is ruining our Muslims and making the devil understand of local secular Islam what. And when they seduce them to the end, then our Muslims will take on us. But what will they do, the process has already begun and before it is too late, it is necessary to stop it. Otherwise, our grandchildren will definitely go to the mosque if we survive as a species (that’s vryatli)

        No, you’re completely wrong, all these preachers are mostly not migrant workers, it’s another matter that among the poorly educated, poorly characterized migrant workers compared to Caucasians, these preachers better interpret the idea.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 08: 17 New
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      Quote: Vanek
      Regarding Russia, so I think we are not used to it. How many republics were in the USSR. A lot of. And they lived in peace, nearby, went to visit. I think we should not be afraid.

      hello Ivan! That was before, before we were closed from the west, there was no supply of Islamists from outside. There were no trips to Egyptian and Qatari educational institutions. There were no crowds screaming allah akbar on the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg. A lot of things were missing and people had different values, the society was one. So Ivan is not so simple and even very difficult. Two denominations will not be able to get along, especially when one is alien and aggressive. Collision will and will happen sooner or later.
      1. domokl
        domokl 16 May 2013 08: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        we were closed from the west, there was no supply of Islamists from outside. There were no trips to Egyptian and Qatari educational institutions

        Hello, Sasha! You’re distorting a little. During the USSR, Muslims also studied in foreign madrassas, as did Christians. It’s just not officialized. Most of the current leaders of the Church (both Islam and Christianity of all concessions) have ever studied abroad.
        For 400 years, Russians and Tatars have been living peacefully and defending themselves from external enemies in Russia. Something was not heard of the clashes until they began to be measured by scribbles, whose faith is more accurate
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 16 May 2013 12: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          Under the USSR, Muslims also studied in foreign madrassas, as did Christians. It was simply not official.

          Great, Sasha! I did not know that. Even so, it was modesty, not window dressing, as it is now.
          Quote: domokl
          Something about the clashes was not heard until they began to be measured by scribble, who has faith rather

          Who started to do this and who pays money for this ?????
        2. Cheloveck
          Cheloveck 17 May 2013 04: 27 New
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          Under the USSR, Muslims also studied in foreign madrassas, as did Christians. It was simply not officialized. Most of the current leaders of the church (both Islam and Christianity of all concessions) have ever studied abroad.

          Here is what TSB says:
          D. at. h. in the religions of the USSR. In 1970, clergy for the Russian Orthodox Church were trained by the Moscow (in Zagorsk) and Leningrad Theological Academies and Theological Seminaries in Zagorsk, Leningrad and Odessa. At the Moscow Academy there is a sector of distance education at the seminary and academy courses and graduate school. Graduates of the academy and parish clergy with a higher theological education, after defending the relevant dissertations, receive master's and doctoral theology degrees. As part of the students D. at. h. there are priests from foreign countries. Average D. at. h. are pastoral and theological courses of the Georgian Orthodox Church (Mtskheta of the Georgian SSR); Protestant theological courses (Tallinn and Riga), preparing pastors and preachers, Catholic theological seminaries and theological courses (Kaunas and Riga); Bible courses of evangelical Christians-Baptists (Moscow), Yeshibot - a school for the training of ministers of the Jewish cult at the Moscow Choral Synagogue. Muslim clergy are trained at the Higher Theological School (Tashkent) and at Miri-Arab Madrasah (in Bukhara), which has a 7-year term of study. The Armenian Church has a theological academy (Echmiadzin, near Yerevan) with 2 departments - academic and seminary. The Echmiadzin Academy prepares cadres for the foreign dioceses and communities of the Armenian Church.
          Studying abroad was not welcome, to say the least, for the consequences were predictable ...
    3. mogus
      mogus 16 May 2013 08: 21 New
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      hi Vanek!
      Putin supported Zhirinovsky’s idea of ​​granting citizenship to emigrants immediately, without living in Russia, if they settled in Siberia and in dv. Those. no need to wait 5-8 years.
      And now the question is, who will go to us? Labor exploits were not noticed; none of them will bring money here (they themselves run from lack of money); locals leave from unemployment; and those who fear the law will go to the wilderness (they will build their own pile-up caliphate harem.)
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 16 May 2013 08: 43 New
        +4
        I can admit mistakes.

        And what Romanov wrote about ... somehow he didn’t think about it ... But he remembered a few more weddings in Moscow with shooting, and yes, I admit, there is something to be afraid of.

        Thank. Convinced.
      2. domokl
        domokl 16 May 2013 08: 50 New
        -2
        Quote: mogus
        Labor exploits were not noticed; none of them will bring money here (they themselves run from lack of money); local leave for unemployment

        laughing For that, you will now receive a bunch of comments about the need to work, Far East Russian land, Russia for Russians and more.
        1. mogus
          mogus 16 May 2013 09: 27 New
          +8
          I was born and live in Transbaikalia. Belongs to eastern Siberia. So I think, to leave from here to the Urals to relatives or not? Businesses have been closed since the 90s. New practically do not open. While it was possible, they stole the forest, but they also clamped it. Who will be here instead of us? And in the Urals, an aunt, married to a Tatar, a cousin in the Urals, married to a Tatar from Kazakhstan ... It is necessary to work, but nowhere, the Kremlin with taxes is crushing new attempts. Tell me about life in Siberia?
          We have long coexisted peacefully with everyone, claims only to new ones ...
      3. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 16 May 2013 13: 35 New
        +5
        This means that Russians from the former USSR cannot obtain citizenship for 5-10 years, and all the rabble from their planet - "you are welcome!" - so what? This means that half of China, Africans, refugees from Arab countries, all the gasters from the "friendly" republics of the former USSR will fill Siberia-Mother ...
        Or maybe the government can move the brain and make the Russians and Russians from the former USSR moving to Siberia attractive?
        1. mogus
          mogus 16 May 2013 13: 48 New
          +3
          so I don't understand our government. They say that people leave here, so it is necessary to solve the problems from which we run away. If they were to be resettled, then indeed Russians, Russian-speaking and from those republics in which there were no shouts of "suitcase, station, Russia".
          1. Rider
            Rider 16 May 2013 14: 00 New
            +2
            Quote: mogus
            If relocated, then really Russian, Russian-speaking


            you and ya ayu 00 too.

            google, the law on simplifying the adoption of citizenship by the Russian-speaking people from the CIS countries has recently been passed for consideration.

            and so, indeed, before, well, VERY MUCH obstacles were resettlement.
            1. gizz
              gizz 16 May 2013 14: 19 New
              +3
              So we mean the granting of citizenship (as now) NOT RUSSIAN and RUSSIAN-SPEAKING. The Russians are back in flight. Very much so, we interfere with our officials, we all want something. We don’t give budget money calmly to steal, we still consider our country to be ours (what arrogance !!!). By the way, this relates more to MEDIUM bureaucracy than to large. And Asians are illiterate (as bureaucrats think) they won’t particularly claim anything. And you can’t prove to them that together with the others they will go under the knife and with their children. And you will begin to prove - they will look at you, plebeian, through your lip and put them on the list of the insane.
              1. Rider
                Rider 16 May 2013 14: 40 New
                +4
                you are not right
                when I said "Russian-speaking" I meant Russians.

                probably it was necessary to write - the Slavs.

                and about bureaucrats - I completely agree.
                1. gizz
                  gizz 16 May 2013 18: 22 New
                  +1
                  I'd love to make mistakes, but for now we have what I wrote above. And what will happen next: wait and see. Maybe a miracle will happen ...
  • Rustiger
    Rustiger 16 May 2013 08: 03 New
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    The huge uterus of peoples in Central Asia and hungry Africa, spawning thousands of years more and more settled and nomadic tribes, opened again, and her sons instantly forced to forget almost all the other applicants for labor replacement of the native Europeans.
    Different-sized chuchmeks are taken not by hard work, not by art, not by obedience, but it is by the multiplicity and tightness of the heaps that grow into crowds. These are people who have nothing to do with their fathers and grandfathers. These are people thrown out of their traditional way of life, from their culture - both settled and once former nomadic, from the restraining norms of the old society, not grafted to any morality other than kishlachnaya, not brought up in traditional Islam, looking at cities and towns Europe (and Russia) - and you don’t have to fool yourself, it’s not only about London, Paris and large cities - today these protords are already everywhere even in small villages - as in the collection of beautiful pictures and bright expensive objects.
    This is a crowd without a face, name and purpose, it seems only waiting for a person of Genghis Khan’s will, who will bind them with this will and send them to storm the European and our cities.
    Is this not a show of war. The war is the most brutal, oriented towards mutual destruction and spreading across the globe. If we can’t stop, then we need to prepare. Prepare to live one day longer, take more enemies with you.
    Or the power to kick harder until Russia has passed the point of no return, as in Islamope.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 16 May 2013 09: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Rustiger
      If we can’t stop, then we need to prepare. Prepare to live one day longer, take more enemies with you.
      Or the power to kick harder until Russia has passed the point of no return, as in Islamope.

      In my opinion, scary, but very correct words.
      1. Rider
        Rider 16 May 2013 14: 06 New
        +6
        and you can’t argue with that.

        ANY NATION (PEOPLE) TAKES THOSE BOUNDARIES WHICH CAN BE POSSESSED BY THE ARMED HAND.

        and democracy and tolerance, this is a temporary raid (type) of civilization.
      2. Rustiger
        Rustiger 16 May 2013 23: 29 New
        0
        Quote: omsbon
        In my opinion, scary, but very correct words.


        I understand that, you, Andrei, understand that. There are already two of us - you can already cover each other's back. Support others with your left hand. and in the right knife / ax / pitchfork. ... ... And who does not agree, then look what is happening in Europe. There are no comments at all. When migrants have settled down in our country thoroughly and "put down roots" - get married, give birth to children - they WILL DEMAND, because they will not remain faceless and disenfranchised slave biomass for a short time. In any case, they will come into conflict with the local authorities, feeling themselves already full citizens of the country - they will demand benefits for children and unemployment, decent wages, hospitals and kindergartens. And their children will generally consider Russia their homeland. These are not empty "projects" from the field of "Scientis Fantastic", they are constant examples from Islamopa.

        In any case, there will be a bloody conflict with the indigenous population, who has long been deprived of all these "benefits" and who has too great a gap with migrants - in traditions, faith, social status, lifestyle, level of education, etc. Both of them will take up arms, and here you need to understand that by thoughtless and anti-people reforms, the government created a huge protest mass within the country just an indigenous population that does not vote for United Russia. Then the bloody bath will begin, BUT: And what position will the authorities take then? Scary to imagine.

        Therefore PS:
        For two years I have had a traumatic trunk (Ukrainian production). I drive in a car or under a jacket. Last year I bought a "lady's" (Turkish) one for my wife.
        Sometimes we shoot at targets in the country. The kids like it. There is also a small collection of daggers (remake, but handmade) with documents and "permission" to carry. So I want to buy "Saiga". But in thought, maybe a "foreign car" is better. ... ... what
  • nemec55
    nemec55 16 May 2013 08: 45 New
    +2
    Mr. Apollo will come and ban everyone
    1. Vanek
      Vanek 16 May 2013 08: 47 New
      +3
      Just wondering what you mean?
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 16 May 2013 09: 01 New
        +2
        Yes, as it was, the case was expressed on the same article, received a ban from this gentleman
  • Alex66
    Alex66 16 May 2013 08: 52 New
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    Why are Muslims fleeing from their countries where Sharia law is in effect? Sharia does not provide them with freedom and a decent standard of living? But in countries where there is freedom and a high standard of living, they seek to impose sharia and destroy freedom and a high standard of living. This is the logic of a cancerous tumor.
    1. shark
      shark 16 May 2013 09: 26 New
      10
      a very accurate conclusion. Personally, I believe that either we ideologically educate children of all faiths in the spirit of multiculturalism. We educate aggressively, with beautiful ideals, with examples. As they say without a fig in the bosom. Either it will be necessary to clearly draw the lines of Muslim and Orthodox residence. And this will not inevitably lead to the collapse of the country. Personally, I have nothing against Islam and I want Muslims to relate to my religion as well. I don’t like them customs and habits. But if they follow them in their environment, then I parallel to them. Accordingly, I expect the same attitude from them. Only this way we can get along.
    2. FreZZZeR
      FreZZZeR 16 May 2013 10: 36 New
      +2
      Agree to 100%!
    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 10: 50 New
      -4
      Quote: Alex66
      Why are Muslims fleeing from their countries where Sharia law is in effect? Sharia does not provide them with freedom and a decent standard of living? But in countries where there is freedom and a high standard of living, they seek to impose sharia and destroy freedom and a high standard of living. This is the logic of a cancerous tumor.

      Do you even know how many Muslim countries Sharia operates ??? Of those Muslim countries where they come to Russia NEVER A DAY !!! In Germany, where there are many Turks, in Turkey there is no Sharia, in France where there are many North African Arabs, too, there is no Sharia It’s inconvenient to search through the tablet, but only Iran and Saudi Arabia are mine.
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 16 May 2013 11: 07 New
        0
        Is it true that, according to Sharia, cattle slaughterers are a dirty and forbidden profession?
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 16 May 2013 12: 05 New
          +2
          If you mean those who slaughter (following the rules) livestock for consumption and distribution to those in need - no.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Gleb
          Is it true that, according to Sharia, cattle slaughterers are a dirty and forbidden profession?

          Not true!
      2. MG42
        MG42 16 May 2013 12: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Yeraz
        ! In Germany where there are many Turks, in Turkey there is no Sharia, in France where there are many North African Arabs, too, there is no Sharia.

        What did you lose in your avatar that is not very tolerant with a wolf and a crescent
        about France there is no Sharia?
        Muslims build sharia state inside secular republic

        The coexistence of European civilization with an aggressive and intolerant Islam that sparks like a single day like two wires with bare insulation, threatening a short circuit and fire. While French lawmakers are racking their brains, it would be softer and more correct to prohibit the wearing of burqa, Muslims living in France come up with new and new demands, trying to create a Sharia state within a secular republic.
        In enterprises, they demand the creation of separate Muslim "kosher" canteens, refusing to sit at the same table with colleagues who eat pork.

        Carl Pensman, an employee of one of the Parisian employment offices, said that Muslims have organized a kind of religious trade union. Among the requirements is the official recognition of Muslim weekends, Fridays and all religious holidays, the organization of prayer halls at all enterprises. They also demand that women who work in factory canteens be banned from "walking with bare hands."

        These requirements - from the simplest to the most extravagant - haunt the heads of enterprises. Nobody wants to look racist. "Many leaders are afraid that they will be labeled 'Islamophobes' if they refuse to meet all these requirements. And they give in," writes in his book "Does Allah Place in the Enterprise?" anthropologist Dunia Buzar. The French make concessions even when Muslim workers refuse to obey a female boss.

        In hospitals the same thing. Recently, a delegation of French parliamentarians visited the maternity ward of the Lyon hospital. Even the Communist Party deputy Andre Geren was horrified. Every week, 4-5 incidents related to the brutal behavior of Muslims occur in the department.

        "In October, during a difficult birth, a man-obstetrician was invited to the ward, but he not only could not help, but also received a woman in labor from her husband's face. I had to revive not the woman in labor, but the obstetrician." The staff of the department is on the verge of a nervous breakdown - everyone is tired of maneuvering between religious requirements and enduring insults and beatings. "Husbands demand that only female doctors take care of their wives. Many refuse anesthesia because there are many men among anesthesiologists."

        The Association "City and Suburb" notes: in recent years, most schools have been forced to cancel pork dishes, and in city swimming pools and gyms have introduced a significant number of hours for classes "women alone."

        In today's France, 61 million people account for 7 million Muslims - 11.5%.

        In 1962, when France broke up with its North African department - Algeria, 9,5 million Arabs lived in it and 1 million Europeans - 10%.

        The question arises: does the minority, which opposes assimilation for cultural and religious reasons, have the right to impose its lifestyle on a faint-hearted, degrading majority? Maybe it’s better to go to the historical homeland?
        http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/444500/
        1. Rider
          Rider 16 May 2013 14: 13 New
          +5
          Quote: MG42
          writes in his book "Does Allah Place in an Enterprise?"



          cool
          and in England banned the wearing of cross stitches in the workplace.

          Oh, Europe will play the game of tolerance.
          1. MG42
            MG42 16 May 2013 14: 22 New
            +4
            Quote: Rider
            Oh, Europe will play the game of tolerance.

            I agree, tolerance = damage to the immune system of Europe. The sunset of European civilization. SODOM AND GOMORRA. In France, they began to understand this already there, active protests against same-sex marriage, for example.
            1. Rider
              Rider 16 May 2013 14: 45 New
              0
              Quote: MG42
              I agree, tolerance = damage to the immune system of Europe


              agree with agree wink

              moreover, the defeat is planted on top.
              according to all the news you can see how Europoids are FORCED to tolerance.

              with the exception of perverts, they are for it with three hands laughing
              1. yurta2013
                yurta2013 16 May 2013 15: 46 New
                +2
                Quote: Rider
                according to all the news it is seen how Europoids are FORCED to tolerance. for the exception of perverts, they are for this with three hands

                Indeed, they are opposed to the law on same-sex marriage, but as far as I know, there were no mass protests against the suicidal policies against Muslims.
                1. Rider
                  Rider 16 May 2013 16: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: yurta2013
                  but against suicidal Muslim policies


                  you don’t know recent European news,
                  there already in many countries the role of right-wing (and in some places far-right) parties is increasing, and they WELL NOT at all suffer from tolerance.
                  have you heard about Merkel’s statement about the failure of multiculturalism?
                  and from England heard the same trends, and at the parliamentary level.

                  however, an order was received - BE patient and SMILE!
                  the coming years in Europe (and in the world) will be very interesting

                  (yes, this bowl blows us)
                  1. yurta2013
                    yurta2013 17 May 2013 11: 21 New
                    0
                    Yes, separate statements on this subject sometimes already appear. You can say the process has begun. But how fast can it develop in the conditions of complete domination of liberal values ​​in politics? Meanwhile, time is now playing against indigenous Europeans. The share of the Muslim population is growing rapidly and, accordingly, the percentage of votes for continuing the policy of multiculturalism is increasing until it is beneficial to the Muslims themselves. Very soon, the point of no return will be passed, and then European civilization can only be restored through a bloody war of annihilation that today's Europeans have long been unable to do.
        2. MG42
          MG42 16 May 2013 14: 16 New
          0
          It’s interesting how someone edits letters in posts. I wrote something you their avatar was not very tolerant with a wolf and a crescent
          and then came
          What are you in your avatar love
        3. PSih2097
          PSih2097 17 May 2013 01: 38 New
          +1
          Islam in France

          I think if there is a state will hijabs will be removed from them faster than they say meow, at least in Germany for sure, but in France they will have to introduce a legion ... IMHO
          1. MG42
            MG42 17 May 2013 02: 37 New
            +2
            This photo was in the quality of proof that supposedly Sharia is not there >>>
            here is also an interesting picture of 2 women, but so different
      3. Mairos
        Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 17 New
        0
        Speaking about Islamic countries, they mean the system of values, the main religion and the system of relations, and not the legally legalized Sharia.
    4. Mairos
      Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 14 New
      0
      So I also constantly wonder the same question. They flee from Islamic countries from a bad life, and then they begin to demand Islam in a new place. What for? So that their grandchildren again fled from a foreign country?
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 16 May 2013 09: 13 New
    +6
    Any modern civilized state is secular, and all denominations there live with neutrality to each other, but this of course does not apply to the modern world, Islam basically acquires a radical character, and its radicalism only comes from the low culture and education of those layers who believe in it, well and rich people who need it. As for the Russian Muslims, I am loyal to the Tatars, their Islam does not cross the road to our Orthodoxy like it does (with the exception of fundamentalists), but I don’t trust the Caucasus, I don’t believe them, it threatens from there, they have to work there all the time security officers and the last, Asians, they have nothing to do here!
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 16 May 2013 16: 01 New
      +3
      In my opinion, the radicalism of Islam (fundamentalism) today is, in part, a form of resistance of the peoples of the Muslim religious culture to the destructive effects on it (and not only on it) of modern Western civilization, with its non-national English-speaking mass culture, complete freedom of sexual relations, open propaganda of pornography and all sorts of sexual perversions. For some reason, the Orthodox Church is showing some semblance of religious fundamentalism. The Catholic Church even seems to be incapable of this.
      1. Mairos
        Mairos 17 May 2013 10: 19 New
        0
        For God's sake, let them resist at home. Do not come to Russia and then resist.
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 16 May 2013 09: 18 New
    +7
    The fact that Islam is advancing is certain, but whether only Europe is retreating is a big question. In my opinion, retreats to Islam while most countries, including Russia and excluding (and then temporarily), countries such as China and Japan. It is still difficult for Islam to turn around there. All the rest amicably demonstrate their tolerance, universal patience, sometimes allowing a little militant rhetoric, if they get hit on the head by Islam, and punitive, i.e. "peacekeeping" operations in some oil-bearing areas controlled by Islamic countries
    Islam has long been showing nothing to anyone. He hits. Sometimes openly, sometimes stealthily, but steadily, methodically, building up strength for new even more powerful strikes and choosing more and more new goals. So we are going the right way, comrade giara. Right to the Hell!
  • shinobi
    shinobi 16 May 2013 09: 19 New
    +3
    Islam, from the point of view of history, is a young religion and goes through the same period as the Christianity of the early Middle Ages. The rooting period. In the era of the Crusades, the West did not allow Islam to do this, although those campaigns had minimal relation to faith, in both cases the economy was the basis. In the Middle Ages, the east was richer in financial and resource terms than Europe. But ideologically weaker. Islam became aggressive when it felt the ideological weakness of the West after the Great War and the situation unfolded. The era of the Middle Ages with its terrible wars for world ideology is coming.
    PS: The goal of any ideology is to subjugate the individual to the collective to ensure that the individual is easily controlled by the leader / leaders of the collective for personal purposes. Very often, the personal goals of the leader do not coincide, or even contradict, the stated goals of ideology.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 10: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: shinobi
      Islam, from the point of view of history, is a young religion and goes through the same period as the Christianity of the early Middle Ages. The rooting period. In the era of the Crusades, the West did not allow Islam to do this, although those campaigns had minimal relation to faith, in both cases the economy was the basis. In the Middle Ages, the east was richer in financial and resource terms than Europe. But ideologically weaker. Islam became aggressive when it felt the ideological weakness of the West after the Great War and the situation unfolded. The era of the Middle Ages with its terrible wars for world ideology is coming.
      PS: The goal of any ideology is to subjugate the individual to the collective to ensure that the individual is easily controlled by the leader / leaders of the collective for personal purposes. Very often, the personal goals of the leader do not coincide, or even contradict, the stated goals of ideology.

      No, Islam is nevertheless more united than Christianity and its path will be different from that of Christianity. Look in Islam, the Koran is written in one language and everyone reads it in one language, Arabic, i.e., unlike Christianity, Muslims of the world are united by the language , and this is a huge factor in the feeling of one thing! Plus, in the national languages ​​themselves they were introduced very strongly, come to any Islamic country, you will hear salaam alaikum, vaaleikum salaam. Christians have never had such a thing. Islam has its own center of attraction is Mecca and Medina. Islam of all Muslims, God has one name ALLAH, Christians do not.
      Therefore, Islam lives longer, the main thing in the insanity of Wahhabism does not slip.
      1. consul
        consul 16 May 2013 17: 21 New
        +3
        The Orthodox Arabs pronounce the word God as Allah, in their own language, as it were. As for the common language, those who built the Tower of Babel also had one language, which all ended everyone knows. Christians have the center of gravity, God and we praise His Name, we everywhere .
  • djon3volta
    djon3volta 16 May 2013 09: 50 New
    +2
    To be honest, I don’t care what happens in Europe. Let them do what they want and who they want to do. What will happen to them in 10-20 years, I’m on the drum. I’m not going there for permanent residence, and I'm not going to. they themselves created their own tolerant laws, Africans and Asians scented that it’s better to live on benefits than to work, that’s why they went there. And most importantly, they won’t be able to stop the Islamization of Europe, because it contradicts their laws, which they love so much to boast about totalitarian countries.
    Islamists will multiply, and tolerasts will shrink with their misfortunes about career and entertainment, while Europeans have a career in the foreground laughing
  • Uversa
    Uversa 16 May 2013 09: 51 New
    +5
    No doubt, Islam is coming. And this is a 100% planned action on a global scale. Is this evidence that Islam is growing stronger? Yes, it’s unlikely, because the striking contradiction of Islam with common sense will not attract Europeans to its ranks. It looks like spilled jelly - the more it spreads, the thinner the layer.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 16 May 2013 10: 01 New
    18
    I don’t know who how, but if someday someone tries to make me live by eacons, which are more like nonsense, then my actions will be unambiguous - I will fight. Tough and uncompromising. And I teach my children the same thing.
    And I think that I am not at all alone in my opinion.
    1. matross
      matross 16 May 2013 10: 35 New
      10
      Quote: IRBIS
      not alone

      Definitely not alone! The laws of "this religion" are alien to Russians. And Islam itself is hostile to us, no matter what some part of the community would tolerate! Our country is Orthodox and this is our strength. And faith! To prohibit the construction of mosques, the practice of Islamic religious rites and the wearing of traditional clothes outside the republics where they live compactly! The minority (religious as well as the sexual) should not irritate the majority, let alone threaten! Islamists and their sympathizers may minus
      1. Rider
        Rider 16 May 2013 14: 55 New
        -5
        Quote: matRoss
        Prohibit the construction of mosques, the worship of Islamic religious rites


        and here is Orthodox radicalism
        (don't be offended)

        I was just pinned
        Quote: matRoss
        The laws of "this religion" are alien to Russians

        for the sake of interest, ask how many Russians convert to Islam in Russia.

        and with the last lines - I completely agree.
        1. Ram chandra
          Ram chandra 16 May 2013 15: 19 New
          -2
          I was just pinned
          Make fun of on the bench with friends))))))))))))
          1. Rider
            Rider 16 May 2013 15: 44 New
            +1
            ah ah ah how you were corrupted by my words.

            however, you (like me) from Kz, I don’t know your nationality but I think that you are Russian.
            just imagine that Kazakhstan will prohibit the construction of Orthodox churches, and the holding of services as well as holidays, only on the grounds that we are a minority, and we were not here before.

            But matRoss is precisely what he preaches (just the opposite)
            1. matross
              matross 16 May 2013 17: 49 New
              +2
              Quote: Rider
              because matRoss preaches exactly that

              Thank you for the appreciation of my brief opus. wink
              Now seriously: if the Orthodox begin to create the same problems for Kazakhstan as the Muslims in Russia, prohibit the construction of churches and religious holidays and kokoshniks with bast shoes. I am writing about this so confidently, because everyone understands, and you are no exception - this will never happen. Russian culture does not assimilate and does not destroy others, but only enriches itself and enriches itself (spiritually). However, we must remember everyone - we are peaceful people, but our armored train ... has already spread the pair and is in full swing !!
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 16 May 2013 14: 49 New
      +1
      Here is your words, Alexander, I believe. And completely in solidarity.
    3. Rustiger
      Rustiger 16 May 2013 23: 38 New
      0
      Quote: IRBIS
      And I think that I am not at all alone in my opinion.

      Absolutely!!!
      / wrote above /
      What to do at our everyday level? My personal opinion.

      Unite. With friends, with relatives, with colleagues who support the same point of view. Be more friendly. Legally arm. Do not drink, do not add drugs. Whoever health allows - to go in for sports. To create public organizations according to their national interests, to enter into a dialogue with the authorities, most of them live here, and it is necessary to explain to officials that their children, regardless of gender and age, can also be subjected to terrible violence from migrants at any time. Explain to officials that in the event of a civil or ethnic war, there will not be enough "seats on the Ark" for all of them and most of them will also have to defend their homes with weapons in their hands and that it is in their interests for the indigenous people to be on their side at that moment ...

      Move, move, work. To honor the law, while the one that is, but to demand a new one. To be together, to be organized, in case of danger, one phone call quickly get together with a ready-made action plan.
      Yes, a lot of other things, just do not be silent, hiding under the bench!
  • Bezarius
    Bezarius 16 May 2013 10: 24 New
    +4
    > Of Russian Muslims who dream of introducing Sharia, 22% believe that it should apply to people of other faiths.

    Shield? But ignoramuses. If there are Muslims among visitors who also think so, then here's a link for you: http://oneislam.ru/?p=841 smoke obscenities part of their own religion ._.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 16 May 2013 11: 02 New
      -4
      Quote: Bezarius
      > Of Russian Muslims who dream of introducing Sharia, 22% believe that it should apply to people of other faiths.

      Shield? But ignoramuses. If there are Muslims among visitors who also think so, then here's a link for you: http://oneislam.ru/?p=841 smoke obscenities part of their own religion ._.

      You can consider anything you want, BUT Islam is forbidden by force, a person must come to Islam himself if forced to do so it will be a great sin.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 16 May 2013 11: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        Quote: Bezarius
        > Of Russian Muslims who dream of introducing Sharia, 22% believe that it should apply to people of other faiths.

        Shield? But ignoramuses. If there are Muslims among visitors who also think so, then here's a link for you: http://oneislam.ru/?p=841 smoke obscenities part of their own religion ._.

        You can consider anything you want, BUT Islam is forbidden by force, a person must come to Islam himself if forced to do so it will be a great sin.

        But Islamic radicals, Salafis in particular, are not interested, they have their own interpretation of the Koran, you don’t want, well, then the ax is head ...
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 17: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: PSih2097
          But Islamic radicals, Salafis in particular, are not interested, they have their own interpretation of the Koran, you don’t want, well, then the ax is head ...

          These are shaitanists !!
          here there is a video
          Fighters of the Al-Nusra Front, a radical Islamist group operating in Syria, published a video showing the execution of 11 soldiers of the Syrian army, Al Jazeera, an inter-Arab television channel, reported on Thursday.

          "The Sharia court in the eastern province of Deir ez-Zor sentenced to death these traitorous soldiers who killed our brothers and our families," a man wearing a black mask said in the video. Then he, one by one, executes the people standing in front of him on their knees, shooting them in the head with a pistol, Interfax reports.

          As reported, the leader of the al-Nusra Front, Abu Mohammed al-Jawlani, promised to carry out the orders of the leader of al-Qaeda, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Earlier, Western media have repeatedly expressed assumptions about the connection of the radical Al-Nusra Front with Al-Qaeda.
          http://www.vesti.az/news/158627
          they have no excuse and no mercy !!
          Wahhabists must be destroyed like mad dogs !!
      2. jumpmaster
        jumpmaster 16 May 2013 15: 53 New
        +3
        You need to tell this to those who were killed in Afghanistan and Chechnya for refusing to accept Islam and renounce Orthodoxy!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 18: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: jumpmaster
          You need to tell this to those who were killed in Afghanistan and Chechnya for refusing to accept Islam and renounce Orthodoxy!

          I’ll see you say !!
          I will punish you!
          I'm not saying that this was not!
          I say that this is contrary to Islam and it is clearly written in books and said by scientists!
      3. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 16 May 2013 15: 59 New
        +3
        Yeraz (1)
        You can consider anything you want, BUT Islam is forbidden by force, a person must come to Islam himself if forced to do so it will be a great sin.

        But how do Muslims turn out from Orthodox prisoners? Did they themselves come to Islam? And then they also refuse their relatives "voluntarily". Or maybe they still "came" there?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 16: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: ia-ai00
          But how are Muslims made from Orthodox captives?

          only possible voluntarily!
          Coercion is a sin !!
          This is written in the Quran!
    2. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 16 May 2013 11: 29 New
      0
      “This message from Muhammad, the son of Abdullah, may it be an agreement with those who accepted Christianity, far or close, we are with them.

      Truly, I, helpers and my followers protect them, because Christians are our fellow citizens, and by the will of Allah I oppose everything that can offend them.

      No coercion shall apply to them. Just as their judges will not be removed from their posts, so their monks will not be expelled from the monasteries. Nobody will destroy the house of their religion and damage it and will not take away a single thing from it to the homes of Muslims.

      If someone takes this or that thing from there, he will break God's instructions and disobey his prophet. Truly, they are my allies, who have secured my guarantee of security against everything that they hate.

      No one will force them to move from place to place or participate in battles. Muslims must fight for them. If a Christian marries a Muslim, this should happen only with her consent. It is forbidden to prevent her from attending church for prayers. Their churches should be respected. No need to stop them from rebuilding their churches and maintaining the holiness of their Testaments.

      None of the Muslims shall violate this agreement until the Day of Judgment. ”


      - that is the truth. Lovers of distorting real values, God will put in its place.
      1. matross
        matross 16 May 2013 12: 05 New
        -1
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        No need to stop them rebuilding their churches

        Restore? After the destruction? And who destroyed? Or did I misunderstand this expression?
        By the way, where is the quote from?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 16 May 2013 14: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: matRoss
          Restore? After the destruction? And who destroyed?

          It means that an abandoned church, if they want to restore it, then do not hinder !!
          When Muhammad (pbuh) sent soldiers on a campaign, he demanded that they not touch the churches, monks, cut down trees, and treat prisoners well!
      2. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 16 May 2013 12: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        - that is the truth. Lovers of distorting real values, God will put in its place.

        Unfortunately, this truth is forgotten by many, many simply don’t know it, and those who are not profitable use it. Their interpretations are advantageous to them, but in fact the lies they drive into the heads of illiterate fellow tribesmen. And while they get to the Almighty, they manage to bring so much evil to others that the attitude towards them is projected onto all other respectable Muslims.
      3. Garrin
        Garrin 16 May 2013 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        - that is the truth. Lovers of distorting real values, God will put in its place.

        Dear Magomed, I am glad to welcome you. You know, it seems to me that the quotations you quoted come true, a little is needed. RESTORE THE USSR.
        1. DAGESTAN333
          DAGESTAN333 16 May 2013 16: 20 New
          +1
          Hello buddy! And I'm glad you! Strange, but social well-being (in fact, for which Islam is called) under the Union, was much higher than now, during the "permissiveness" ... including religious freedom.
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 16 May 2013 10: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: IRBIS
    I don’t know who how, but if someday someone tries to make me live by eacons, which are more like nonsense, then my actions will be unambiguous - I will fight. Tough and uncompromising. And I teach my children the same thing.
    And I think that I am not at all alone in my opinion.

    Many agree with you (including me), but apart from one thing, we need to fight not later, but now, I would even say yesterday, and the war should start with the government, with the help of reforms, and if they do not help, then take radical measures, first the police with the help of the people (intelligence data, squad patrols, and in general the general consent and desire of the people aimed at suppressing this problem), if there is not enough strength, introduce internal troops, and at the final stage the armed forces, someone say it is a civil war, yes, but the war is already going on on every street of Russian cities, the war is "bloodless", but a little more and it can turn into the extermination of us, Orthodox. Hence the moral, it is inappropriate to allow a cancerous tumor to absorb the entire body, it is necessary to cut it out locally, so it is not too late!
  • individual
    individual 16 May 2013 11: 05 New
    +4
    This is not Islam coming, but the civilization of glamor, liberal globalism and tolerance, where the ideology of morality and morality are absent. The place of vacuum in nature is filled by wild, cruel barbarians, but armed with the ideology of religion, they preach justice, legality (albeit according to their Sharia), the established adat. The rules of the family are transmitted from mother to son, daughter. This has always been the case in ancient Rome and in Byzantium and in subsequent civilizations. This cannot be undone. This must be countered including universal values. Homeland, Family, Mom. Healthy lifestyle. Healthy children.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 16 May 2013 11: 18 New
      0
      Quote: individ
      This is not Islam coming

      Yes, an empty place does not happen sacred, I would have changed the proverb. The best way to find an external enemy, and what to do about it? (rhetorical question)
      Why aren't the photos published? It seems nothing criminal or is it just I don’t see?
    2. DAGESTAN333
      DAGESTAN333 16 May 2013 11: 58 New
      0
      Quote: individ
      Homeland, Family, Mom. Healthy lifestyle. Healthy children.
      - the essence, understanding of these values ​​is a part of Islam.


      Quote: individ
      Gender rules passed from mother to son, daughter
      - gender rules are passed from the FATHER to the son.
      1. yurta2013
        yurta2013 16 May 2013 16: 16 New
        0
        Quote: DAGESTANETS333
        Quote: individ Motherland, Family, Mom. Healthy lifestyle. Healthy children. - the essence, understanding of these values ​​is a part of Islam.

        This is the essence of not only Islam, but also any other religion and common sense. Unfortunately, the stupid and corrupting mass culture imposed by the West very little corresponds to common sense. On the other hand, all the above values ​​are understood differently by different religions and peoples. This is the main reason for almost all wars on earth in the past and present.
  • faser
    faser 16 May 2013 11: 13 New
    +2
    it’s like natural selection, who is stronger, he will survive! and whoever weak will absorb the story
  • fenix57
    fenix57 16 May 2013 11: 16 New
    0
    ++++++++++++++ [quote = IRBIS] I don’t know who how, but if someday someone tries to make me live by eacons, which are more like nonsense, then my actions will be unambiguous - I will fight. Tough and uncompromising. [/ Quo, Fucking Ekibastuss! And apply everything more accessible ...
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 16 May 2013 11: 20 New
    +2
    Every second German sees Islam as a threat and believes that this religion is alien to Germany, writes Dmitry Vachedin (Deutsche Welle). According to a study by the Bertelsmann Foundation (Bertelsmann Stiftung), 51% of German residents see Islam as a threat. Moreover, this opinion is shared by 18% of Muslims living in the country. In eastern Germany, Islam is more skeptical than in western.

    well, in the east (GDR) Christian churches have not yet begun to be given away for remaking under mosques and there aren’t as many Muslims as there are in the west, and East German education with a worldview is very different from Western ones.
  • MG42
    MG42 16 May 2013 11: 48 New
    +4
    Just a little more and clashes between Christians and Muslims will begin in the "calm" Europe, and there, as in the old days, the Crusades >>>
    photo showdown directly under the European Commission = the main body in the EU
  • MG42
    MG42 16 May 2013 12: 02 New
    +5
    Germany: Right-wingers attack Islam
    A lower tolerant Paris migrants beat the Frenchman
  • MG42
    MG42 16 May 2013 12: 16 New
    +3
    Many migrants who arrived in France do not find work, and their aggression spills out into the streets of cities >>>> video of pogroms in tolerant France
  • Begemot
    Begemot 16 May 2013 12: 50 New
    0
    Islam is at an age when Christianity led the Crusades. This to some extent explains its aggressive expansion around the world. It differs both in form and content from the CJP of knights, but the meaning is the same: hoist the green banner of Allah throughout the territory where people live. It seems to me that to grow up and become truly attractive to all, Islam is prevented, as the forum users quite rightly point out, the multi-vector interpretation of the Koran. Such a broad interpretation that we observe and categorical rejection of those who think differently even within Islam itself makes it contradictory and therefore is not accepted as a religion with which it can coexist peacefully. On the forehead of the Mohammedan it is not written what kind of course he adheres to: Shiite, Sunni, Alafite, Wahhabi, so it is difficult to perceive the neighborhood with him as acceptable for Christians and others, and the lack of confidence in security is a serious irritation factor. I happened to communicate with different believers, and I will say that there is no difference in what kind of god people believe. If religion is a spiritual sacrament for a person, a great, good-natured state of unity with God and fellow believers, it deserves respect, and if religion is used as an instrument to achieve certain goals, it does not matter, personal or collective, then this is the scum that has been stirring up water for the last decades and in the Arab world, and in Europe, and in Russia.
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 May 2013 13: 41 New
      +2
      The difference is that Christianity "got sick" of the crusades, but Islam, the younger religion, is leading an aggressive expansion in Europe, but what is really in Europe = all over the world.
      1. CreepyUknow
        CreepyUknow 16 May 2013 13: 50 New
        +2
        Christianity NEVER suffered from the Crusades. They only hurt the greedy European feudal lords and popes, pursuing their goals.
        1. MG42
          MG42 16 May 2013 14: 00 New
          +4
          Were there crusades? = were >>> the word was ill was taken in <quotes>
  • Rinatgoi
    Rinatgoi 16 May 2013 13: 07 New
    -4
    It is reported that Tamim al-Dari said: “I heard from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “This matter (that is, Islam) will certainly be everywhere where day and night comes and Allah will not leave a single house or dwelling without this religion entering them, and some people will be exalted because of this (acceptance) and others will be humiliated by this (for refusing to accept it) and they will be ruled by Muslims, and honor will be given to Islam by Allah and He will humiliate kufr (unbelief) ”
    (Narrated by Ahmad 16344,)
    1. Sochi
      Sochi 16 May 2013 13: 33 New
      +1
      In vain he was so ... excited. All claimants for truth are generally uneducated fanatics.
  • Uncle
    Uncle 16 May 2013 13: 21 New
    -1
    Europe was worried that Muslims would no longer allow homosexuals to organize their parades, women to walk half-naked, drink, inject, rot in short. Well, let it not be allowed, we have nothing to breathe from their stench. We Orthodox, too, do not share liberal values, not a single one.
    1. MG42
      MG42 16 May 2013 13: 27 New
      +5
      How cunningly you supported Islamization. Bravo. No. What is better sharia patrols in the streets or geyparady?

      No need to translate what is written on the posters?
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 16 May 2013 14: 22 New
        +3
        Am I cunningly supporting Islamization? The Lord is with you, Western values, democracy and pluralism are demonic deeds. There is such a book, "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," everything in Europe is going according to it. In short, my point of view is that democracy is the way to the reign of the Antichrist, and if Islamization will delay the end of the world, then let it delay.
        1. MG42
          MG42 16 May 2013 14: 26 New
          +4
          Here's a plus for this post. Just aroused suspicion Muslims do not allow = well, let them not allow in your previous post. I would say otherwise >>> let the Christians themselves do not allow, killing in themselves tolerance.
          Otherwise, Muslims impose their will on Christians through all sorts of "patrols". I don’t support homosexuals, but thank God they don’t think of patrolling the streets lol
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 16 May 2013 15: 32 New
            +2
            On Sodom with Gomorrah, where there were only fornicators and perverts, besides Lot and his family, God sent a fiery rain. And he sends Islamists to European perverts. I emphasize that not Muslims, but aggressive fanatics. And I don’t feel sorry for them, I don’t care at all. Europe is our enemy, and the one who is against our enemies is for us. And it is time for Russians to recognize themselves as Christians, and not "citizens of the world."
            1. MG42
              MG42 16 May 2013 15: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: Uncle
              Europe is our enemy, and the one who is against our enemies is for us. And it is time for Russians to recognize themselves as Christians, and not "citizens of the world."

              It is doubtful that these bearded men in Europe will be for us, rather the opposite. Look on YouTube there is an amateur video of a clash between Muslims and police in Moscow.
              Or here is a photo of Uraza Bairam in Moscow.
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 16 May 2013 16: 38 New
                +2
                Kazan is the third capital of Russia, why do not such unrest occur there? After all, Muslims live there? And in general, what are thousands of foreigners doing in Russia? This is already a question for the Russian authorities, a question for those who provoke inter-religious tension.
  • skullcap
    skullcap 16 May 2013 13: 30 New
    +3
    The topic raised by the article is very delicate. Indeed, in our country people of various faiths got along for centuries, and the majority of the people want to believe that this will always continue in the future. Therefore, hoping that everything will somehow resolve itself like a mantra, they repeat that Islam does not threaten Russia. But is it really? Unfortunately - everything flows and changes, including in the direction of which the majority would like to avoid.
    Since this question is very serious, no matter how cool - a matter of life and death for a huge number of people, I believe that it should be discussed without any insults in any direction, but honestly and openly, calling things by their proper names.
    The solution of the question under discussion lies within the framework of the solution of the problem of searching for the meaning of Life by a person (by individuals and various communities) of God.
    There are many religions in the world, but many great people have argued that God is one. Only different nations call him differently, looking for his own way to him, but sometimes they are carried away by false guides in a completely different direction.
    If we take into account the fact that the one God is the Creator and the Creator, it turns out that the main policy of followers of Islam (I draw your attention to the fact that this is the main policy of the overwhelming part of the Islamic movement, and not Breivik is practically the only one in all of Europe) which blow up, mass kill unwanted people, cut off their heads and eat their insides, are sent to serve not the Creator and the Creator, but the Destroyer and the Killer. So the road to them is not in heaven, but in hell. And this is what 24 needs to be repeated around the clock all the media that have not yet been procured from the world behind the scenes, which has already unleashed two world slaughterhouses and does everything to unleash a third.
  • Sochi
    Sochi 16 May 2013 13: 46 New
    +7
    In my opinion, people who came to live in a foreign country should respect its culture, traditions, faith. They can observe their faith only to the borders that do not affect these values, and dislike them - forcibly send them back. This is for monocultural countries. For multistructured, it is necessary to establish at the legislative level those beliefs that the state recognizes. The rest should not be allowed in, or their activities should be prohibited.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 16 May 2013 16: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Sochi
      For multistructured, it is necessary to establish at the legislative level those beliefs that the state recognizes. The rest should not be allowed in, or their activities should be prohibited.

      Now isn't it? Muslims have long been recognized by the state (not prohibited). Extremist sects are prohibited in our country. But the problem, however, has not yet been resolved.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 16 May 2013 13: 54 New
    +4
    The steam boiler is being filled and is being filled, the question is how long will it last?
  • Black
    Black 16 May 2013 14: 30 New
    0
    Islam in itself, like other world religions, is not a refuge of terror, extremism. And we believe by and large one God.
    Extreme behavior is an echo of the centuries-old predatory policy of the West in relation to third countries. Reaping the storm.
    But I would not bury the Christian world. The boiler will boil, it will break the lid, and Europeans will still be able to fend for themselves.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 17 May 2013 11: 06 New
      0
      Europe has long ceased to be the Christian world. The desolation of most Catholic and Protestant churches is proof of this. Perhaps, only in Spain the position of Christianity is still quite strong. Confrontation with Islam in Europe as a whole (if it starts) will not be under the Christian flag. A more likely scenario is the process of Islamization of Europe, the completion of which will coincide with the achievement by Muslims of demographic equality with its indigenous population, that is, in 30-40 years, and maybe much earlier.
  • Rrv
    Rrv 16 May 2013 14: 48 New
    -2
    The attitudes of any religion can be interpreted very freely, as a result of which any religion is a factor separating people.

    Any religion, if not created, was definitely used to legitimize the parasitic classes, as well as to direct the activities of the masses in the direction necessary for the classes indicated.

    The attitudes of any religion based on "sacred books" and traditions and which are part of a person's worldview and worldview are faith, but when these attitudes begin to be broadcast to the outside world, for objective reasons they turn into unprovable conjectures, on the basis of which religious people try to reformat the world in accordance with their own ideas.

    The example of Christianity - the religion of "love" is very indicative in this respect.
  • Isk1984
    Isk1984 16 May 2013 14: 55 New
    +1
    Where are you the USSR, where there were no possessed Muslims, fanatical Orthodox, there were no homosexuals and liberals imposing their opinions on the whole society, if there was equality on Earth, and where the truth was respected and the person as an individual, ready for great achievements, and not for interpretation of the unknown why and for whom the napsan ... then it was the USSR and it will return, and I hope many will then have their mind cleared up and filled with bright thoughts ...
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 16 May 2013 15: 36 New
      -1
      Quote: Isk1984
      and where there was equality on Earth and where the truth and man as an individual were respected

      Yes, that's for sure, equality was in the volume of prison stew and the length of the shovel cuttings. And freedom was respected beyond the thorn so that it still hiccups.
    2. consul
      consul 16 May 2013 17: 37 New
      0
      but there were police patrols that did not allow children and young people to enter churches, as well as recording those who came, with subsequent "suggestions" at work or dismissals or boarding a mental hospital.
  • Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 16 May 2013 15: 16 New
    +3
    It’s good that I am Kazakh. 10%. I see a bearded man on the street - just a disgust ..
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 17 May 2013 10: 52 New
      +1
      Not all bearded men are Muslim fundamentalists. By the way, Russian men before Peter the Great were all without exception bearded men. And Russian peasants (most of the Russian population) wore beards until Soviet times. Old Believers still wear them.
      1. Ram chandra
        Ram chandra 21 May 2013 09: 12 New
        0
        Yes - these impress me. But bearded extremists - no.
  • Ruslan Bear
    Ruslan Bear 16 May 2013 15: 21 New
    +2
    give birth to children and the influx of migrants into our country will not be terrible
    1. Rider
      Rider 16 May 2013 16: 10 New
      +2
      I don’t understand why you are being minus.

      (probably do not want to bother with the kids)

      and the Chechens with Asians will raise demographics for them.

      Well, then let them not be surprised where the mountain villages appeared on Russian lands from.
    2. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 16 May 2013 18: 02 New
      +2
      There are several tens of millions of Russian women of childbearing age, and hundreds of millions can pour into Russia, even to Siberia. And in 10 years, as cockroaches will spread all over Russia, and if you consider that they give birth to 5-10 people, then in 30-40 years a completely different "face" will prevail in Russia!
      1. Rider
        Rider 16 May 2013 18: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: ia-ai00
        and hundreds of millions can pour into Russia, even if to Siberia.


        and hundreds more millions may move to Antarctica


        wink
  • Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 16 May 2013 15: 49 New
    +5
    One smart man, back in the early 20th century, said: "Crime and terrorism are a reaction of quite normal people to abnormal living conditions in society ..." Maybe I’ll say a little differently than most forum participants would like to hear, but what I've met around the world says the following:
    1) Muslims flooded us and Europe because they lived shitty there, in their homeland and in order to get rid of this stream, it is necessary to improve the situation in their countries by all means, then there will be no reason to go to them to us. But in reality, we are witnessing the very opposite — Europe is destroying Islamic countries, introducing them into chaos and poverty, hence the outcome of Muslims to them.
    2) In Russia, Muslim protest relations are, for the most part, an echo of the abnormal situation in society - in which all the money is concentrated in a handful of wealthy people in Moscow and in their republics, and most of the rest of the people live without work and in poverty. The state does nothing to change the situation and people themselves are looking for a way out and radical Islam is one such way out.
    There is no need to call for the destruction or expulsion of Muslims, you need to do so that all people would be in demand in our state, without separation on religious grounds. The development of the country is necessary so that the mentality of the people is aimed at creation, and not at how to take something away from another, divide it up, etc. We must build our country together, and not everyone enclose only their own uluses. But for this you need an honest leadership, not afraid to "pinch to the nail" those who need to be pinned and firmly pursuing a policy for the development of the country relying on all strata of its people. Do we have such a guide? I think the answer is obvious.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 19: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      One smart man, back in the early 20th century, said: "Crime and terrorism are a reaction of quite normal people to abnormal living conditions in society ..." Maybe I’ll say a little differently than most forum participants would like to hear, but what I've met around the world says the following:

      Everything written by you below is absolutely true!
  • Abakanets
    Abakanets 16 May 2013 16: 02 New
    +2
    Islam is a new threat, it is worse than Nazism, and it will take everything in its path. It is urgent to close the entrance from ALL Islamic countries to Russia, otherwise our grandchildren will live under Sharia.
    1. yurta2013
      yurta2013 17 May 2013 10: 48 New
      -1
      And with the indigenous peoples of Russia, professing Islam, what are you going to do? Evict them or what? After all, they also breed much faster than Russians (whose numbers are declining).
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 May 2013 16: 19 New
    +5
    When Muhammad (pbuh) sent soldiers on a campaign, he demanded that they not touch the churches, monks, cut down trees, and treat prisoners well!

    It is evident that many professing Islam remember what Muhammad said only when it directly concerns them. There are a lot of cases when prisoners' fingers, ears, heads are cut off ... Who are these people, if they can be called that? They are "hiding behind" Islam. And Muslim women have sent how many people to "that" world, and consider it a blessing. Why impose such a bloodthirsty faith on other peoples?
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 16 May 2013 17: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Who are these people, if you can call them that?

      they must be called shaitanists who have nothing in common with Islam!
      1. Force 75
        Force 75 16 May 2013 17: 58 New
        +3
        Muslims don’t have to believe in anything. Yes, and the life of their prophet is known who he was. Islam should be banned
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 May 2013 16: 36 New
    +2
    MG42 SU
    ... What is better sharia patrols in the streets or geyparady?

    Both are disgusting. Where have you seen that a NORMAL person, a group of NORMAL people came out with posters like - "I AM A NORMAL PERSON, LOOK AT ME, JOIN US" or Christians would go to a demonstration with their posters - "DON'T KILL, DO NOT STEAL, JOIN OUR SERIES "... And probably it's time to respond to Obscurantism to go out with calls to BE NORMAL PEOPLE, but only then can we get" WALL on WALL "...
    1. Rider
      Rider 16 May 2013 17: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: ia-ai00
      but only then can you get "WALL on WALL" ...


      when the people lose the ability to go WALL to the WALL, very soon it turns out that the people can not keep the walls of their house.
    2. MG42
      MG42 16 May 2013 18: 45 New
      +5
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Both are disgusting.

      I would say so, yes, disgusting, but only bearded "radical Islamists" are also dangerous for any European state ... gomosyatina will not go to cut heads and explode in a crowd of civilians ... somehow I did not say much sloppy of course request
      and the fact that they hit on the cheek = turn the other one, it is necessary to strike a knee in the groin between these slaps ..
  • deman73
    deman73 16 May 2013 17: 18 New
    +3
    Europe will soon be kapets if it does not stop babysitting with its tolerance and democracy and we may face the same fate
  • Svyatoslavovich
    Svyatoslavovich 16 May 2013 17: 50 New
    +2
    Where is the USSR? Traded for chewing gum, cola and jeans.
  • cobalt
    cobalt 16 May 2013 19: 22 New
    +3
    The Israelis shot a rather funny video about tolerance in Europe. It may soon become a reality.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 16 May 2013 19: 46 New
    +4
    In conservative (as opposed to liberalist) English-language publications, Europe is often referred to as Eurabia. When the Gayropei tolerasts are legally forced to pray 5 times a day for Mecca and wrap themselves in the veil, it will be useless to yell about human rights and democratic freedoms.
  • does it
    does it 16 May 2013 21: 20 New
    +2
    Among the ardent supporters of the use of Sharia in Russia, 26% advocate stoning unfaithful wives ... And what about unfaithful husbands? Or they don’t count, then it turns out that a woman is for their second-rate being.
    1. Rrv
      Rrv 16 May 2013 22: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: kvirit
      Among the ardent supporters of the use of Sharia in Russia, 26% advocate stoning unfaithful wives ... And what about unfaithful husbands? Or they don’t count, then it turns out that a woman is for their second-rate being.


      Initially, in Judaism, and then in its branches - Christianity and Islam, a woman was not considered a man (in any case, full-fledged).
      1. does it
        does it 16 May 2013 23: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: RRV
        Initially, in Judaism, and then in its branches - Christianity and Islam, a woman was not considered a man (in any case, full-fledged).

        And our Ancestors, who lived according to the laws of the Government, respected the woman, and the woman was then, in the full sense of the word, free! You can’t even say about the modern civilization of the Earth. A young girl herself chose a self-bound (future father of her children)! It is a girl, not a guy, which speaks of the great respect of women by our ancestors. And only after the imposition of Christianity, a woman was declared a dirty creature! The attitude of the people towards women determines not only the spirituality of the people, but also their future! Http: //bg.convdocs.org/docs/index-135485.html? Page = 3
        1. Rrv
          Rrv 17 May 2013 00: 59 New
          0
          Alas, such a layer of culture is destroyed that it is not a fact that it will be possible to restore.
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 16 May 2013 22: 56 New
    0
    Yes! All that remains is to rely on polls from the Pew Research Center in Russia - the American research center in Washington. The well-known Madeleine Albright is at the head of the project.

    But Europe is not concerned about Islam itself, but about the inability of immigrants from Islamic countries to integrate into the culture of the country that hosted them. Moreover, in places of compact residence, they are trying to impose their views and ideology.
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 16 May 2013 23: 30 New
    +2
    MG42 SU
    I would say so, yes, disgusting, but only bearded "radical Islamists" are also dangerous for any European state ... gomosyatina will not go to cut heads and explode in a crowd of civilians ... somehow I did not say much sloppy of course


    Do you think the moral decay of society is much more "humane" than physical destruction? As far as I "remember" the Lord GOD destroyed the inhabitants of Sadom and Gamora for debauchery, apparently this is no less SIN!
    1. MG42
      MG42 17 May 2013 00: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Do you think the moral decay of society is much more "humane" than physical destruction?

      In Europe, two extremes have now collided = Sharia and tolerance, two wires have closed the phase with zero, smoke will soon go ...
      As for us >> there is simply no need to go to these extremes, that something else is alien ...
    2. Rrv
      Rrv 17 May 2013 00: 03 New
      0
      Quote: ia-ai00
      The Lord GOD destroyed the inhabitants of Sadom and Gamora for debauchery, apparently this is no less a SIN!


      If you believe the apostle Paul, then gamasyatin is a punishment for worshiping idols - Romans 1 / 21-32 smile
  • Ivga_lis
    Ivga_lis 16 May 2013 23: 39 New
    +1
    Quote: VadimSt
    But Europe is not concerned about Islam itself, but about the inability of immigrants from Islamic countries to integrate into the culture of the country that hosted them. Moreover, in places of compact residence, they are trying to impose their views and ideology.

    Moreover, they are quite actively using the benefits that European legislation provides them, such as benefits for single mothers (who are all wives in one "harem")

    In general, it is quite logical that Europe is raking in the fruits of tolerance so actively promoted with a full spoon. Plus, America's "warming up" of the situation in the Middle East amazes the crowds of refugees who are breaking into Europe.
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  • Chaplain
    Chaplain 17 May 2013 00: 15 New
    +1
    Most likely soon it will be again: Get up a huge country ..... Well, and hereinafter.
    Only this time, the war will be with Islamic fascism, an admixture of derratii much more.
  • O_RUS
    O_RUS 17 May 2013 00: 17 New
    0
    "The Europeans just want to put a pig on their neighbor," let it be bad for us, if only Russia’s cow dies. "

    Europe still, apparently, is not fully aware of the danger of the green threat, with the exception, perhaps, of Denmark, which experienced a real shock from the cartoon demonstration of green globalists on the streets of Copenhagen. "If something happens, we will pay off" - think the antiglobalists. But it will not be possible to buy off - the Islamists have different goals. They do not need money, but world domination in the full sense of the word. However, they also need money, but only as a kind of necessity for green expansion. At some point, the green revolution can be "creeping" like some kind of peaceful occupation. "
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 17 May 2013 07: 46 New
    +1
    The article once again proves that among Muslims, ignorance and illiteracy has always been and is the norm. Managing a depressed, illiterate people is always easier. A lot of people dream of spreading Islam everywhere.
    The third world war will be precisely on the contradiction of Islam with the rest of the world. What is already happening. Only now if you count the population of China and India. then with all the attempts of Islam to dominate, they will not succeed, Islam is doomed to confrontation, and as a result to destruction. Sharia’s medieval ideology is weak against scientific and technological development.