The "Theory of Generations" and the Problem of Migrants

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The "Theory of Generations" and the Problem of Migrants
Here is a portrait of this very gigantic petty-bourgeois wave. A still from the film "Man with a Gun."


And God told him that his descendants would be exiles in a foreign land and would be enslaved and oppressed for four hundred years.



Acts of the Apostles, 7:8


From stories about the little-known. Today, continuing the theme of the impact of generational issues on society as a whole, we will look, firstly, at the portrait of the average Russian at the beginning of the 20th century, and secondly, we will consider the issue of the migration of Russian peasants to cities.

There are many value judgments on the question of what Russians were like at that time, but I'd like to cite just one: that of A.P. Chekhov. Here's what he wrote:

...a young man, the son of a serf, a former shopkeeper, chorister, schoolboy and student, brought up on deference to rank, kissing priests' hands, worshipping other people's thoughts, giving thanks for every piece of bread, being flogged many times, going to class without galoshes, fighting, torturing animals, loving to dine with rich relatives, hypocritical both to God and to people without any need, only from the consciousness of his own insignificance... waking up one fine morning, he feels that in his veins flows no longer slave blood, but real human blood...

This phrase is largely autobiographical and therefore requires clarification. Clearly, such people, "squeezing the slave out of themselves drop by drop," already existed at the time. But the question is: what percentage of them were they compared to those who remained in this situation or were stuck in an intermediate position? Clearly, there were significantly more of them than the "Chekhovians," and it was they who set the tone in Tsarist Russia at that time. Moreover, this is clearly written about a first-generation city dweller, the most "terrible" from a social psychology perspective, because such people equally experienced the pressures of a peasant upbringing until the age of five and the pressures of an urban environment, where they ran around to school without galoshes.

And here it's worth remembering what the peasant psychology of that time was like, what lay at its core? At its core lay a truly horrific paternalism, or "fatherism." Peasant labor is hard. It was even harder at a time when peasants in the Russian Empire often survived at the point of starvation. What united people under these conditions? Only one thing—the authority of the father-patriarch and unquestioning obedience to him. Bestuzhev-Lada wrote very well about this in his small but insightful study, "History your parents."

Moreover, paternalism demanded obedience not only to one's own father but to all the other "fathers" in the village, defining a certain standard of behavior and, precisely because of this, demanding that a person "be like everyone else." Be like everyone else in work, in rest, in entertainment—in everything. As soon as a person showed himself to be different, grave consequences immediately fell upon him: fellow villagers would not marry his daughters, would not give their girls to his sons, would not socialize with him, and would even call him derogatory nicknames. The pressure of such an attitude was severe and often provoked a person to leave for the city. Incidentally, kulaks were disliked in the villages not only for their "blood-sucking" but also for the very fact that they were "not like everyone else." This attitude toward peasants who had "made it" is well described in the novel "The Hunchbacked Bear" by Yevgeny Permyak.

People raised under paternalism subsequently developed an unconscious attraction to... strong personalities, all sorts of "fathers," "leaders," and "caudillos," all because they were accustomed to believing that they could easily solve all your problems (without having to think about them yourself!); the main thing was to follow the "father's" orders and work tirelessly. And in the village, the father would beat those who disobeyed with a belt or reins, and he was perfectly within his rights. These people were accustomed to this attitude from childhood. Before they were five!

But circumstances changed. Need and hardship in Russia reached their peak, and what happened happened—the February bourgeois revolution. But why was there such a significant gap between February and October? V.I. Lenin answered this question, too, and exhaustively:

Russia is now seething. Millions and tens of millions, politically dormant for ten years, politically crushed by the terrible oppression of Tsarism and the backbreaking labor of landowners and factory owners, have awakened and are drawn to politics. And who are these millions and tens of millions? Mostly small proprietors, petty bourgeois, people standing in the middle between capitalists and wage workers. Russia is the most petty-bourgeois of all European countries.

A gigantic petty-bourgeois wave swept over everything, suppressing the conscious proletariat not only by its numbers, but also ideologically, i.e., it infected and captured very broad circles of workers with petty-bourgeois views on politics.

The petty bourgeoisie in life depends on the bourgeoisie, living itself in a proletarian way, and not in a proletarian way (in the sense of a place in social production), and in the way of thinking it follows the bourgeoisie.

In the interests of improving grain production technology and the scale of production, as well as developing rational large-scale farming and public control over it, we must work within the peasant committees to establish large-scale model farms on each confiscated landowner's estate, under the control of the Soviets of Agricultural Laborers' Deputies. The Party of the Proletariat must explain that the system of small-scale farming under commodity production is incapable of freeing humanity from mass poverty and oppression.

THE TASKS OF THE PROLETARIAT IN OUR REVOLUTION
(DRAFT PLATFORM OF THE PROLETAR PARTY)
Written on April 10 (23), 1917; afterword - May 28 (June 10) 1917
Published in September 1917 in Petrograd as a separate brochure by the Priboy publishing house.
Signature: V. Lenin

So, not only were the peasant masses the bearers of a paternalistic psychology, they were also smallholders with their own, also very specific, worldview, psychology, and behavioral patterns. Quite a mess, wasn't it? And so this entire mass "flooded" into the cities, dramatically altering their social structure, which became especially noticeable after the end of the Civil War, when many hereditary city dwellers, including hereditary workers, were killed at the front or even emigrated. So, if we follow Lenin's understanding of events—and we have no reason to doubt its accuracy—it was precisely in the cities that a sharp rise in petty-bourgeois consciousness occurred, despite the fact that the country was declaring a socialist transformation of society. A paradox, eh? And it was resolved by the introduction of the New Economic Policy (NEP). But the Bolsheviks understood that the NEP was temporary, that they would easily abandon it as soon as... as soon as the dominant force of the new Soviet society became not the backward peasantry, but the advanced working class.

It's no coincidence that as early as 1925, the country was holding the so-called Industrialization Congress (the 14th Congress of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks)). And note that in Comrade Stalin's speeches at this and all subsequent congresses, he began his reports by emphasizing the numerical growth of the working class, viewing it as an exclusively positive development. But... This raises an interesting question. Clearly, Stalin was unaware of the "theory of generations." But he could not have been unaware that all the "new workers" he spoke of were merely yesterday's peasants. Moreover, the use of the American assembly-line labor system also does not contribute to the development of proletarian class consciousness, since what kind of professional worker can emerge from someone who "tightens nut number 7"? He will remain a peasant at heart and suffer from the duality of his generally rather primitive consciousness. And he will also solve the problem of his "suffering" in the traditional way – with vodka! This is precisely why, by the way, the level of drunkenness in the USSR increased sharply in the cities at the end of the 1920s, which has been the subject of numerous dissertation studies using examples from many regions of Russia, including the Penza region.

However, the country and I.V. Stalin himself had no choice in this matter. Following Marxist-Leninist doctrine (and he could not physically follow any other at the time), he, as a Marxist, had to simultaneously prepare the country for participation in the world revolution and, at the same time, as a man of state interests, strengthen it against external aggression. "We'll be crushed if we don't get through this period in 10-15 years!"—that was what he had said, and it was absolutely true. In other words, he had no choice. Industrial growth had to be ensured, which meant increasing the size of the working class at any cost. And the simplest and most obvious solution in this case was the migration of a significant portion of the USSR's population from rural areas to cities.

Incidentally, by 1961, the number of rural and urban residents in the USSR had already become equal. However, the country's urban population was now completely different from before. Fourth- and even third-generation urbanites had become rare, while first- and second-generation urbanites were now dominant.

I'd like to point out that I'm not trying to suggest that peasants are "bad" and city dwellers "good." Far from it. What I'm talking about is the alignment of the psychology of upbringing children up to the age of five with the environment. And any reasonable person can't help but agree that the rural environment, especially in those distant times, was different from the urban environment, even though in 1961, the vast majority of streets in Penza, as in the villages, were unpaved!

But there was also the issue of education, which was closely intertwined with the issue of migration. However, we'll look at that next time...

To be continued ...
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  2. +2
    April 10 2026 03: 42
    In the interests of raising the Party of the Proletariat, it must explain that the system of small-scale farming with commodity production is not capable of freeing humanity from poverty.
    masses and their oppression.

    Replace the party of the proletariat with a party of oligarchs with their agricultural holdings...we'll get the same thing...only the oligarchs' goal is to rid humanity of property and freedom. smile
    The process is in full swing.
    1. -3
      April 10 2026 07: 33
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      from property

      And ownership implies RESPONSIBILITY! More ownership means more responsibility. But is everyone ready to shoulder it, and is everyone's intellect up to the task? So it's not all that bad, huh?
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        April 10 2026 07: 51
        Quote: kalibr
        And the property implies RESPONSIBILITY! More property - more responsibility.

        Former Vladivostok Mayor Vladimir Nikolaev and his family had 322 apartments in the Magnum aparthotel confiscated. In total, the court seized 821 properties worth a total of 14,8 billion rubles.
        He was a very "responsible" man! And we have many "responsible" people like him. Almost all of us!

        In a monopolized economy, where key positions in financial flows and "cushy jobs" are occupied by loyal "insiders," responsibility for violations is often blurred or becomes a formality. This creates a system where personal connections, corporate solidarity, and administrative resources prevail over the law.
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          April 10 2026 08: 23
          Quote: Stas157
          In a monopolized economy, where key positions in financial flows and "cushy jobs" are occupied by loyal "insiders," responsibility for violations is often blurred or becomes a formality. This creates a system where personal connections, corporate solidarity, and administrative resources prevail over the law.

          You said it very well! Exactly!
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      April 10 2026 07: 35
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      and freedom.

      And what is freedom? CONSCIOUS NECESSITY! And do all our (and other people's) citizens have a CONSCIOUS UNDERSTANDING OF NECESSITY? Does everyone have a clear understanding of what is good and what is bad? So here too, everything is ambiguous. Some people, and there are many of them, don't need any kind of freedom!
      1. +1
        April 10 2026 14: 45
        Quote: kalibr
        So here too everything is ambiguous.

        Everything is clear. Exactly as you've defined it. What follows is only abstract philosophizing, an attempt to come to terms with reality for those unprepared to accept responsibility and freedom.
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    April 10 2026 05: 52
    all the “new workers” he talks about are just yesterday’s peasants... He will remain a peasant at heart and suffer from the duality of his generally very primitive consciousness

    Hmm... to some extent, that's possible, but not entirely true. A "former peasant" can reach a new level after becoming a worker by gaining an education and pursuing a passion for something uncharacteristic of their past. Example: Yuri Gagarin, born in a village to a peasant family, was the third child. It would seem he belonged to an ordinary collective farm family, but at 27, he launched into orbit because he had previously mastered modern jet technology. In other words, in 27 years, he grew from a barefoot collective farmer to a professional operator of cutting-edge technology. Did he remain a peasant at heart because he lived his first five years in an environment of "terrible paternalism"? It's doubtful, since according to the recollections of his daughters, there was not a drop of paternalism in his upbringing.
    Well, he will also solve the problem of his “suffering” in the traditional way – with vodka!

    The nature of drunkenness does not lie in the realm of “suffering” at all; it is laziness, idleness, and many other things, including stress and family discord.
    raised in conditions of paternalism, they subsequently experienced an unconscious attraction to... strong personalities, all kinds of "fathers," "leaders," and "caudillos"

    That's also a rather dubious thesis. Let me remind you that the 40s/50s generation was fatherless, "war and Yezhov's reign..."—what kind of paternalism is that? However, they also experience an "unconscious craving for... strong personalities, all sorts of 'fathers,' 'leaders,' and 'caudillos.'"
    Again, I don’t understand how the author connects this to the change of so-called generations.
    1. +2
      April 10 2026 06: 09
      Quote: Puncher
      A "former peasant" who has become a worker can move to a new level by receiving an education and becoming interested in something that is not typical of his past.

      And how many Gagarins and "Uncle Vasyas" were there in the USSR? What percentage did they represent, if you could tell me?
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        April 10 2026 06: 38
        Quote: kalibr
        And how many Gagarins and "Uncle Vasyas" were there in the USSR? What percentage did they represent, if you could tell me?

        Yuri Gagarin is simply the most striking example. But there were many like him. En masse, of course, "Uncle Vasya" predominated, but opportunities were fewer, and information was less accessible. The easiest path was the army, where a former peasant was entrusted with complex equipment and taught the basics necessary for its proper operation. Afterward, the person changed, and peasant life simply became uninteresting.
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          April 10 2026 06: 52
          Quote: Puncher
          after which the person changed and the peasant life simply became uninteresting to him.

          Evgeny! I'm not talking about everyday life; what does everyday life have to do with it? The core of a person's soul is formed by their environment. Being determines consciousness! And yes, it changes later, but the foundation is built within five years!
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          April 10 2026 07: 06
          The easiest way is the army, where a former peasant was entrusted with complex equipment and taught certain basics necessary for its proper operation.
          The Red Army was attractive to yesterday's peasant boy, first of all, because it was a place where he would be fed, clothed, shod, and guaranteed a warm, sheltered sleep.
          Prison and monastery offered roughly the same conditions. But monasteries were abolished, and in prison, you have to fight for your place, not "under the bunk." So, "Where's a poor peasant supposed to go?"
          Regarding training in the army, find out what the percentage of illiterates was in the tank (!) troops at the beginning of the forties.
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            April 10 2026 07: 46
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Regarding training in the army, find out what the percentage of illiterates was in the tank (!) troops at the beginning of the forties.

            General literacy and technical literacy are not the same thing; the latter requires the former. Technical literacy greatly expands horizons, stimulating the acquisition of new knowledge.
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            April 10 2026 08: 54
            Basic things: food, shelter, clothing. Preferably warm. That stove we dance by.
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      April 10 2026 06: 10
      Quote: Puncher
      The nature of drunkenness does not lie in the realm of “suffering” at all; it is laziness, idleness, and many other things, including stress and family discord.

      And all this is a consequence of upbringing at the age of 3-5 years!
      1. +2
        April 10 2026 06: 42
        Quote: kalibr
        And all this is a consequence of upbringing at the age of 3-5 years!

        Not at all. The environment plays a more important role here. The desire to become part of a group, a community, is much more influential.
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          April 10 2026 06: 53
          Quote: Puncher
          By no means.

          Do you have a higher pedagogical education and experience working in secondary and higher schools?
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            April 10 2026 06: 56
            Quote: kalibr
            Do you have a higher pedagogical education and experience working in secondary and higher schools?

            They played their trump cards...
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              April 10 2026 06: 59
              Quote: Puncher
              They played their trump cards...

              It's not about the trump cards. A professional simply judges differently than a non-professional, that's all.
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                April 10 2026 07: 13
                A professional can't make mistakes?
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                  April 10 2026 07: 26
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  A professional can't make mistakes?

                  Maybe. But in professional matters, it's the amateur who makes the most mistakes, right? I have 32 years of experience in the Armed Forces, four years of schooling, a ton of textbooks and articles, and personal experience. I know how to operate a lathe, but you wouldn't advise me to go to a factory and supervise lathe operators, would you? I do my own repairs at home, too, but I wouldn't risk giving you advice, Anton, on how to do them better or what materials to use. That would be presumptuous of me.
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                    April 10 2026 07: 54
                    The main problem with professionalism, Vyacheslav Olegovich, is adherence to the dogmas of one's specialty. It's the same old "paternalism," but from a different perspective. And I fully admit that when you're doing repairs, you perform certain operations faster, more efficiently, and more ergonomically than I do.
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                      April 10 2026 08: 26
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      some operations

                      But not the whole story! In this case, my experience and knowledge outweigh my opponent's experience and knowledge on the matter. And if that's the case, our discussion becomes pointless.
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                April 10 2026 07: 44
                Quote: kalibr
                It's just that a professional judges differently than a non-professional, that's all.

                If you can't argue with a professional, then why have him?
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                  April 10 2026 08: 22
                  Quote: Puncher
                  If you can't argue with a professional, then why have him?

                  Go ahead and argue. Who's stopping you? But you're always getting bogged down in details, when you should be looking at... "Girshe," and here you're simply lacking information. You're not going to read a university textbook on "Age-Related Pedagogy and Psychology." And without basic knowledge, I can't explain anything to you. You'll just keep arguing with details.
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                    April 10 2026 09: 32
                    Quote: kalibr
                    You will continue to oppose me with details.

                    And you will refer to a database formed in the last century, not noticing that time has sped up so much, and human society is changing so quickly, that old theories are at the very least outdated and require revision.
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                      April 10 2026 10: 07
                      Quote: Puncher
                      Old theories are at least outdated and require revision.

                      The 1991 theory simply hasn't had time to become outdated yet; it's still evolving. And it's an axiom that a person is defined by their environment, especially at a very early age.
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                        April 11 2026 10: 02
                        Quote: kalibr
                        A person is made human by his environment, and at a very early age this is an axiom.

                        Dear Vyacheslav Olegovich! Unfortunately, the environment now has a greater influence than early childhood upbringing. Otherwise, how could there be such quickly adaptable Russian-speaking Ukrainians? "I reconsidered my opinion and changed my beliefs." And this isn't an isolated case. Was such adaptability really instilled at the age of 3-5? (I have over 30 years of teaching experience, from kindergarten to university.)
                  2. ANB
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                    April 10 2026 20: 52
                    You will continue to oppose me with details.

                    Hmm. Are you sure you covered everything?
                    Let's look at the general situation.
                    1. Moving from a village in Penza is roughly equivalent in terms of culture shock to moving from Penza to Moscow or Leningrad.
                    2. Have you seen many people moving to Penza from Kuban or the Moscow or Leningrad regions?
                    3. A lot depends on the village itself and the family. I lived in the village until I was six, and I went to first grade there. And that didn't stop me from getting a higher education and moving to Moscow after retirement.
                    4. My personal conclusion: your theory applies to specific locations and a specific time period. Therefore, my colleagues have every right to argue with you. :)
                    At the same time, my respect for your professionalism has not diminished.
                    P.S. I'm waiting for the promised article about the reasons for the collapse of the USSR.
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                      April 11 2026 05: 35
                      Quote: ANB
                      I lived in the village until I was six, and I went to first grade there. And that didn't stop me from getting a higher education and moving to Moscow after retirement.

                      This doesn't bother anyone. But don't confuse education, including vocational education, with general culture.
                      1. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 09: 02
                        . with a common culture.

                        Could you elaborate on this thesis in a little more detail?
                        How does the culture of a first-generation villager differ from that of a fifth-generation city worker? For example, in Podolsk.
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                        April 11 2026 09: 24
                        Quote: ANB
                        Could you elaborate on this thesis in a little more detail?
                        How does the culture of a first-generation villager differ from that of a fifth-generation city worker? For example, in Podolsk.

                        In short, any first-generation migrant culture is dualistic. This complicates life for this person in the new environment, influencing the nature of their decisions and their life goals. Over time, this duality is eliminated and completely disappears by the fourth generation. The person becomes a 100% city dweller.
                      3. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 10: 50
                        A person becomes a city dweller 100%

                        Does it become more cultured or does it degrade to the general level of a specific city?
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                        April 11 2026 15: 20
                        Quote: ANB
                        Does it become more cultured or does it degrade to the general level of a specific city?
                        REDE
                        Neither one nor the other. He may not become more cultured, or he may degenerate. In any case, he will adapt to the new environment.
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                      April 11 2026 05: 36
                      Quote: ANB
                      Your theory is suitable for specific locations and a specific time period.

                      This is not my theory, but conclusions from the theories of much more knowledgeable people, accepted throughout the world.
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                        April 11 2026 09: 17
                        . conclusions from the theories of much more knowledgeable people, accepted throughout the world

                        Something tells me these theories don't strictly distinguish between city and village. Rather, they focus on family upbringing and the general environment.
                        My conclusions from my travels around the country: now Many villages and towns are home to more cultured and educated people than many cities. And yes, the generational theory is clearly at work here.
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                        April 11 2026 09: 25
                        Quote: ANB
                        Nowadays, many villages and towns are home to more cultured and educated people than many cities.

                        Now, yes, but not in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, or even the 70s!!! I worked as a teacher in the villages from 1977 to 1981. I saw plenty... And now, yes—computers, transportation. Many city dwellers are moving to villages, or living in the village and working in the city, and even vice versa! For example, my daughter, a PhD candidate in history, is registered as living in a village near Penza. It's more convenient. But she works in the city. But she's considered a villager, just like her husband—ha-ha.
                      3. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 11: 01
                        Now, yes, but not in the 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, or even the 70s!!! I worked as a teacher in villages from 1977 to 1981. I saw plenty.

                        Here we go. Let's get down to specifics.
                        I'm not arguing with the article. In the 20s and 30s, 99 percent of rural-to-urban migration was upward mobility, and everything you described worked.
                        What region did you work in in the 70s and 80s?
                        Because at that time in other regions the villages were no longer so crowded.
                        I've had a chance to explore the Belgorod, Leningrad, and Karelia regions. And practically everywhere there, it was no worse than in the city, and often better. It depends on which cities you compare it to.
                        2000s. Podolsk. Everything is littered, trash and sunflower seeds on the sidewalks and near the entrances. Young people sit around in the evenings with beer and cans.
                        Kubanskaya Stanitsa. Everywhere is clean. Youth on the sports ground.
                      4. +1
                        April 11 2026 15: 23
                        Quote: ANB
                        What region did you work in in the 70s and 80s?

                        Penza Oblast, Kondolsky District. Pokrovo-Berezovka.
                      5. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 15: 53
                        It turns out I have a wider coverage. :)
                        No, in the 70s the village was already very diverse. And moving to the city didn't add to the culture.
                        I always spent my holidays in the village. Fun things to do: the river, fishing, the forest, going to the orchard to pick apples (officially, no stealing), helping in the garden (watering with a pump!!! With a hose). Cinema at the club. The library, with lots of books, was nearby. And my grandfather had his own decent one.
                        And in the city, we climbed around construction sites and sat on the roof. The movie theater was far away. The river was dirty. Well, we stole peas from the fields.
                        In the village, there are 12 students in a class and tons of textbooks. In the city, there are 40, and chemistry and physics are offered at the minimum wage.
                        Well, where was it better?
                      6. +1
                        April 11 2026 16: 32
                        Quote: ANB
                        Well, where was it better?

                        It's not about where it's better. It's about the impact it had on you. And how it subtly shaped your mentality. With your innate abilities, plus the example of your parents, and interaction with your peers. You understand—for some reason, most people don't want to understand—I'm not trying to prove that the city mentality is good and the village mentality is bad. There's plenty of human crap everywhere. They're just DIFFERENT. And when migration occurs, a strong psychological breakdown occurs. Because of a lack of adaptation to the environment. What's accepted there doesn't apply here, and vice versa. Remember the movie Crocodile Dundee, how he greeted everyone in New York...and then climbed a lamppost out of discomfort. And a person in a state of such discomfort is vulnerable.
                      7. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 17: 42
                        I'm not trying to prove that the city mentality is good and the village mentality is bad. There's plenty of human crap everywhere. They're just DIFFERENT.

                        Here
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                        That's actually what I'm talking about.
                      8. ANB
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                        April 11 2026 18: 44
                        I would also add that villages and cities can be different.
                        And migration from city to city and from village to village will also cause discomfort.
                        For me, Moscow and Leningrad are very different mentally.
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                        April 11 2026 19: 48
                        Quote: ANB
                        And migration from city to city and from village to village will also cause discomfort.
                        For me, Moscow and Leningrad are very different mentally.

                        Absolutely right. For example, it took me three years to get more or less comfortable in Kuibyshev (Samara), and I never even took the metro there. And it was there!
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                        April 11 2026 11: 04
                        Kamchatka is a whole other story. The standard of living in Esso and Petropavlovsk... Well, it's definitely not in the latter's favor. Even though it has city-style houses, while Esso has village-style houses.
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                        April 11 2026 15: 21
                        Quote: ANB
                        Rather, it is the family upbringing and the general environment that are examined.

                        Ha! City family and rural surroundings. City family and urban surroundings.
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              April 10 2026 07: 12
              They played their trump cards...
              Here I agree.
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      April 10 2026 06: 12
      Quote: Puncher
      Let me remind you that the generation of the 40s/50s was fatherless, "war and Yezhovshchina...", what kind of paternalism is there?

      Well, you can't take it so bluntly! It's in the very spirit of peasant labor and life; the issue here lies in the specific man-parent.
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        April 10 2026 06: 44
        Quote: kalibr
        The issue here is with the specific male parent.

        If it doesn't exist, then where does it come from? Or are you saying that regardless of the number of intact families, the general mood of society still has a greater influence?
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          April 10 2026 06: 54
          Quote: Puncher
          Or do you mean that regardless of the number of complete families, the general mood of society still has a greater influence?

          The grass affects the ground you walk on and the cow dung you step into!
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      April 10 2026 06: 13
      Quote: Puncher
      Example: Yuri Gagarin was born in a village to a peasant family, the third child. It would seem he belonged to an ordinary collective farm family, but at just 27, he launched into orbit because he had already mastered modern rocket technology. In other words, in 27 years, he grew from a barefoot collective farmer to a professional operator of cutting-edge technology. Did he remain a peasant at heart because he lived his first five years under "terrible paternalism"?

      Exceptions only confirm general rules. Just remember Lomonosov... "How an Arkhangelsk peasant, by his own and God's will, became wise and great!"
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        April 10 2026 06: 51
        Quote: kalibr
        Exceptions only confirm the general rules.

        Yuri Gagarin was no exception.
        Quote: kalibr
        You should also remember Lomonosov... "How an Arkhangelsk peasant, by his own and God's will, became intelligent and great!"

        Come on, he made up the story about his “peasant” past himself.
        What do you think of V.M. Shukshin? He seemed to flaunt his "peasantness" everywhere, but in reality, he wasn't one. No, he genuinely loved the village, he was passionate about it, but he wasn't a peasant; he was a thoroughly creative individual, an actor and writer.
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          April 10 2026 06: 57
          Quote: Puncher
          What do you think of V.M. Shukshin's personality?

          No way! Exceptions only prove the rule. You yourself wrote that there were more "Uncle Vasyas." Among my acquaintances, there are no people like Shukshin. But I can't eat anyone like "Uncle Vasya"... And by the way, Anton writes that Gagarin was a worker...
          1. Fat
            +3
            April 10 2026 10: 21
            Quote: kalibr
            Exceptions only prove the rule.

            hi This phrase is incorrect. Exceptions, even if they are isolated, cancel the rule. A fully-fledged, rigorous, generalized theory cannot be constructed this way; it will remain a probabilistic (statistically based) postulate.
            1. +1
              April 10 2026 10: 30
              Quote: Thick
              it will remain a probabilistic (statistics-based) postulate

              And by how much is it wrong? If there are 20% exceptions and 80% confirmations, then... it's true without any strict generalizations. Now: how many Gagarins and how many "Uncle Vasyas" were there in our society? And I can tell you with 100% certainty that there were many more of the latter, otherwise we would still be living in the USSR today. Isn't that right?
        2. +1
          April 10 2026 07: 29
          Quote: Puncher
          Come on, he made up the story about his “peasant” past himself.

          This is the first time I've heard of this. Where did you get this information?
          1. 0
            April 10 2026 07: 52
            Quote: kalibr
            This is the first time I've heard of this. Where did you get this information?

            Well, it's well known that he came from a wealthy family and didn't plow the fields. He went to school and read books, which a peasant's son simply wouldn't have had time for. Sure, to the nobility he was a peasant, but in reality, he was closer to the bourgeoisie.
            1. +3
              April 10 2026 08: 36
              Quote: Puncher
              Well, it is known that he is from a wealthy family and did not plow the fields.

              ZhZL: Born into a wealthy family in the village of Mishaninskaya, where his father was a fisherman and owner of a small boat, Lomonosov learned from childhood about hard work and mutual support within the family. Wonderful! So, in today's terms, his father was a small businessman. But there was even more paternalism there back then...
              1. +2
                April 10 2026 09: 12
                Quote: kalibr
                There was even more paternalism there at that time...

                That's not what I'm talking about, but rather that he was considered "one of the peasants," a peasant from the plough. And he liked to describe himself that way. Of course, to the nobility, they were all "peasants," whether peasant or small trader.
            2. +1
              April 11 2026 09: 14
              Quote: Puncher
              and did not plow the field.

              So the Pomors are not in the agricultural sector at all))
              Quote: Puncher
              from a wealthy family

              Well, yes. But in a class society, he is still a peasant.
              Quote: Puncher
              but in essence it is already closer to the bourgeoisie.

              Considering that his father was a ship owner, even a merchant))
              But I understand what you mean.
        3. +4
          April 10 2026 08: 20
          Eugene,
          With your permission, about Shukshin.
          This is just an example of the peasant mentality.
          All his works are about this peasant in the "big city": the tossing and turning, the misunderstandings. Solid in his peasant work, yet naive, worse than a city child, in the big world.
          What's very telling about the second half of the 60s and 70s in the USSR: a "break" in peasant stereotypes. All peasant "stoves and benches," and "farewell to Mother" and "The Tsar of the Fishes" (just in case, I know the author of the latter wasn't Shukshin). laughing )

          Under Soviet rule, Gagarin became the first cosmonaut, Shukshin a famous director and writer. Without it... what space would there be? Like now, they would have fought against VPNs.
          1. 0
            April 10 2026 09: 16
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            This is just an example of the peasant mentality.

            No. Shukshin's mentality is that of a creator, a philosopher, a creative soul, not at all peasant. It's just that, coming from that milieu, he celebrated it. If he had a peasant mentality, he would have stayed in the village and not shocked the "elite" with peasant boots.
            1. +3
              April 10 2026 09: 48
              Mentality and mentality are different concepts.
              Mentality He has a peasant background, so he writes about the problems and pains of peasants.
              Yes, he is a creator, but he would have sat with his “philosophy” if it weren’t for the society in which he lived, and they would have called him “our philosopher” in the villages.
              And he would tell them: "my soul is asking for a holiday."
              Because in the beginning there is the mentality of society (the collective unconscious), and then there is the creator, the janitor, the foreman, the minister, the baobab.
              Best regards,
              hi
              1. +2
                April 10 2026 12: 31
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                Mentality and mentality are different concepts.
                He has a peasant mentality, so he writes about the problems and pains of peasants.
                Yes, he is a creator, but he would have sat with his “philosophy” if it weren’t for the society in which he lived, and they would have called him “our philosopher” in the villages.
                And he would tell them: "my soul is asking for a holiday."
                Because in the beginning there is the mentality of society (the collective unconscious), and then there is the creator, the janitor, the foreman, the minister, the baobab.

                O-o-o-oh! Eduard answered better than me, in the most exhaustive way.
            2. +1
              April 10 2026 12: 31
              Quote: Puncher
              He simply came out of this environment and sang its praises.

              It's not simple. It's just a boil popping up on his butt. It was his mentality, his spiritual self, that made him sing her praises. But that requires reading psychology textbooks again...
    5. +1
      April 10 2026 06: 16
      Quote: Puncher
      A "former peasant" who has become a worker can move to a new level by receiving an education and becoming interested in something that is not typical of his past.

      But since he was raised in a certain environment until the age of 5, he will not get rid of the consciousness inherent in it throughout his life, it will only go into the subconscious and will still “grab by the pants”.
      Quote: Puncher
      Again, I don’t understand how the author connects this to the change of so-called generations.

      It's very simple: four generations would need to pass, and this five-year period would change beyond recognition! Is my article really that unclear?
      1. +1
        April 10 2026 09: 05
        Quote: kalibr
        It's very simple - 4 generations would need to change for this 5-year period to change beyond recognition!

        Your thesis was true 50 years ago. Today, the term "generation" is somewhat arbitrary. While it's fashionable to divide young people into Zoomers and Millennials, there's essentially no difference between them. In fact, I know someone over forty whose behavior is almost indistinguishable from a Zoomer. He's all digital, never sets foot in the office, always at home, and so on.
        1. +1
          April 10 2026 10: 04
          Quote: Puncher
          Moreover, I know someone over forty whose behavior is hardly distinguishable from that of a so-called "zoomer." Everything is digital, he never sets foot in the office, only at home, etc.

          Science is not built on particulars.
    6. +3
      April 10 2026 06: 50
      Example: Yuri Gagarin was born in a village into a peasant family, the third child.
      In fact, Yuri Gagarin's parents were workers, and his maternal grandfather, Timofey Matveyevich Matveyev, was a driller at the Putilov factory in St. Petersburg.
      1. 0
        April 10 2026 06: 56
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        In fact, Yuri Gagarin's parents were workers.

        Father is a shepherd, mother is a milkmaid
        1. +4
          April 10 2026 07: 10
          My father is a carpenter. My mother, yes, started out as a milkmaid, then worked as a soviet employee. And where would she have milked the cows if the family moved to Gzhatsk after the war?
          1. 0
            April 10 2026 09: 06
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Father is a carpenter.

            On a collective farm, "carpenter" is not a profession, but an ability.
  4. +3
    April 10 2026 07: 52
    therefore, it defined a certain average behavior and, precisely because of this, demanded that a person "be like everyone else." Be like everyone else in work, in rest, in entertainment—in everything. As soon as a person showed himself to be different from everyone else, grave consequences immediately befell him.

    straight out the "Yante laws" in a nutshell... but they are not connected with paternalism in any way, it is pure individualism, but in its horizontal form (if we go into scientific terms), the so-called egalitarian individualism... personally, I would say that equality, brought to a certain degree of absurdity
    1. +3
      April 10 2026 08: 28
      Quote: Rodez
      that equality, brought to a certain degree of absurdity

      These are the laws of Jante, yes!
  5. +5
    April 10 2026 07: 58
    Very interesting article!!!! I really liked it!
    I look forward to continuing ...
    I'll just add
    ...the use of the American conveyor system of labor also does not contribute to the development of proletarian class consciousness,

    It was Lenin himself, before 1917, who criticized the flow production system and Taylor’s scientific methods.
    The conveyor belt and the proletariat are two twin brothers.
    The system was designed for low-skilled workers, in American conditions: for immigrants: Irish, Italians, Poles... With the goal of producing high-quality products: dividing into operations where an incompetent, illiterate worker cannot fix anything.

    And now I will return to Lenin...
    And when he came to power, he saw what he probably already knew: the level of the Russian proletariat in the area of ​​productive labor was below the baseboard.
    It was here that he began to praise and persistently use the system of Taylor, Ford, etc. as a system for managing production in the presence of an illiterate worker with a low level of culture.
    While in the USA, Taylor and Gantt were replaced by the practical management theories of Mayo and Follett - a new facet of management with the growth of education among workers.
    Yes, for those who were skilled workers before 1917: there were only a few of them, which did not satisfy the country’s needs for development at all.
    The professional and skilled workforce in our country emerged en masse by the mid-60s—not earlier. The level of MASS professional education rose sharply, and worker dynasties emerged. Before that, it was just a constant stream of workers.
    1. Fat
      +3
      April 10 2026 10: 36
      Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
      The professional and skilled worker in our country was formed en masse by the mid-60s

      hi That's exactly how it was in the USSR. But dynasties of highly skilled workers began to form much earlier – in the Russian Empire, in state-owned factories...
      Have you heard anything about "kafta-makers"?
      Yes, there were few skilled people, but they caused a lot of trouble for the young Bolshevik government...
      1. +1
        April 10 2026 12: 34
        Quote: Thick
        But dynasties of highly skilled workers began to form much earlier – in the Russian Empire, in state-owned factories...

        YES! But what was their percentage of rural migrants in 1917, 27, 37, and 1941? Probably no more than 20%, maybe less...
        1. Fat
          +1
          April 10 2026 14: 03
          It all depends on the socially active portion of the population. It could well be significantly more than 20%, due to propaganda and agitation.
          But we compared the influence of labor dynasties in 1965 and in the hypothetical year 1912; in that situation, the probability normal distribution is much smoother than the standard, especially in the extreme years of 1917 and 1941.
          1. +2
            April 10 2026 14: 18
            Quote: Thick
            But we compared the influence of labor dynasties in 1965 and in the hypothetical year 1912; in that situation, the probability normal distribution is much smoother than the standard, especially in the extreme years of 1917 and 1941.

            In any case, there were far fewer hereditary proletarians among our working class in both 1965 and 1912 than those who came from the village yesterday.
  6. +1
    April 10 2026 08: 08
    If we follow Lenin's understanding of events, and we have no reason to doubt its correctness, it was in the cities that a sharp rise in petty-bourgeois consciousness occurred, despite the fact that the socialist transformation of society was declared in the country.


    There is a basis. Marxism, too, sometimes misfires. The mass psychology of the Russian peasantry wasn't all that petty-bourgeois. After all, if it had been, Stolypin's reforms, which were very much bourgeois, wouldn't have met with such stubborn resistance, albeit unorganized, from the peasantry. There's ample evidence that solidarity and collectivism were strong among Russian peasants, which is what made the Russian commune so resilient, since it had to be forcibly dismantled by those same reforms. It's also true that the peasants were opposed to private ownership of land and its free sale and purchase. Which, you must admit, isn't exactly bourgeois, but rather anti-bourgeois.
    Yes, Lenin considered Russian peasants a petty-bourgeois element, but his views on this issue were one-sided and therefore incorrect. Marxist dogmas, steeped in European narratives, were not very applicable to Russia, an essentially non-European country, as Marx himself eventually acknowledged.

    And the statement of one of the last General Secretaries remains relevant to this day: “We know and do not understand the society in which we live.”
    1. +5
      April 10 2026 08: 45
      "We know and do not understand the society in which we live."
      Here's how to look.
      On the one hand, Andropov is a kind of paper party bureaucrat, like almost the entire government today.
      On the other hand, the processes that took place in the USSR were truly unprecedented in human history, and understanding them, especially in the current moment, was very difficult.
      But I repeat, in addition, a paper bureaucrat could even more easily become confused by reality, even though he was “turning over papers,” i.e., leading, the KGB.
      1. Fat
        +3
        April 10 2026 12: 19
        The phrase "we don't know the society we live in" is often associated with Yuri V. Andropov. However, in his 1983 speech, the phrase sounded somewhat different: "To be honest, we still haven't adequately studied the society in which we live and work, and haven't fully uncovered its inherent laws, especially economic ones."
        Andropov made a certain contribution to the understanding of the issue by writing a theoretical work on the economic problems of "mature" socialism
        1. +2
          April 10 2026 12: 50


          "To be honest, we still haven't adequately studied the society in which we live and work, and haven't fully uncovered its inherent laws, especially its economic ones."
          Andropov made a certain contribution to the understanding of the issue by writing a theoretical work on the economic problems of "mature" socialism


          It's the same as being on the forehead. So, they built socialism, supposedly quite "developed," and then, you see, didn't fully study it. The normal situation is to first create something, and then openly admit that what's already been built needs to be studied, like some kind of "black box."
          Damn it, don't get up!

          Well, where Andropov's "theoretical works" ended up, I suppose, is not necessary to explain, which fully demonstrates their value and adequacy.
          1. Fat
            +3
            April 10 2026 14: 07
            Quote: Illanatol
            Well, where Andropov's "theoretical works" ended up, I suppose, is not necessary to explain, which fully demonstrates their value and adequacy.

            So where did we end up? In the treasury of failed social experiments.
            They value our parents' lives... Isn't that enough? I'm quite confident in their sanity and I don't intend to give a damn about it...
        2. +6
          April 10 2026 13: 19
          Andropov made a certain contribution to the understanding of the issue by writing a theoretical work on the economic problems of "mature" socialism

          Unfortunately, there was nothing useful in them.
          From the height of today's knowledge it is easier to reason, but...
          He merely listed the PROBLEMS, but there were no solutions. And so Perestroika began...
      2. +2
        April 10 2026 12: 45
        As if, then and now, I fully understood and understands the processes taking place in our country. What does a "paper bureaucrat" have to do with it? And who in the high command isn't a "paper bureaucrat"? Are there any personnel in the government or other power structures who don't fit that definition? Humanity has yet to devise any other methods of governing (a country, an army, or an industry) other than administrative-command—bureaucratic, if you will.

        As if you are an exception, you understand everything and are able to enlighten others on “how we can organize Russia,” yeah.
        The problem with our powers-that-be, then and now, is that they viewed and continue to view events through the distorted lenses of Eurocentrism, evaluating everything using criteria that aren't always accurate in our country. This has given rise to the phenomenon of the "intelligentsia," a class of educated people, but educated in a European way, who can't understand why our people are so flawed and behave in ways that don't conform to the latest fad theory from the West.
        1. +5
          April 10 2026 13: 32
          The problem with our powers that be, both then and now, is that they looked at what was happening and continue to look at it through the distorted lenses of Eurocentrism,

          If only our men from chats were here instead of the government, they would, well, look with the right eyes, of course, and all the problems would be solved. laughing
          This is what gave rise to such a phenomenon as the “intelligentsia”, representatives of the class of educated people, but educated in the European way.

          Here they are, Peters, they started foreign fashions, homespun is a different matter, cabbage soup with cabbage, whitened with flour, if there is flour... laughing
          What about a steam locomotive? A car? A steamship? An airplane? Clever factories? All sorts of anti-aircraft weapons? Physics, chemistry, algebra, and geometry?
          Isn't it from the damned Europe?

          You made me laugh, I can't stop. good
          1. -1
            April 10 2026 14: 19
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko

            Here they are, Peters, they started foreign fashions, homespun is a different matter, cabbage soup with cabbage, whitened with flour, if there is flour... laughing
            What about a steam locomotive? A car? A steamship? An airplane? Clever factories? All sorts of anti-aircraft weapons? Physics, chemistry, algebra, and geometry?
            Isn't it from the damned Europe?


            Fashion is really stupid... you yourself probably still wear boucles and shoes with stockings?
            Do you eat only blancmange and croissants?
            If you're not aware, Europe became a leader in scientific and technological progress not so long ago, while for thousands of years Asia dominated: the first laws, the first states, the domestication of the horse, the invention of the wheel, even artillery and gunpowder—these were not European inventions. And now, European countries are increasingly finding themselves on the fringes, while Asians are increasingly gaining ground. This is sad, however, for the cave-dwelling Eurocentrists of the West.
            Physics, chemistry, algebra... well, medieval Europe learned all of this anew from the Asians.

            In principle, there's nothing wrong with adopting technologies and useful practices from neighbors. But attempts to blindly and uncritically borrow someone else's way of thinking and life never lead to anything good. Even Peter understood this, albeit imperfectly. His reforms solved some problems, but they created new ones that still don't benefit the country.

            Laugh, laughter is good for your health. laughing
            1. +3
              April 10 2026 14: 33
              For thousands of years, Asia dominated

              An old legend...
              But what did we borrow there? Laws? Or technologies? Or...?
              Laugh, laughter is good for your health.

              Thank you. Good health and good mood! good
              1. -1
                April 11 2026 07: 56
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                But what did we borrow there? Laws? Or technologies? Or...?


                Gunpowder and firearms, which the "Tatars-Mongols" brought to Rus', as well as the postal service, the "pits," and perhaps even some laws and customs. And much of what was adopted from the West came to the West from the East. Incidentally, doesn't the word "algebra" itself have Eastern origins? And yes, why are the numerals that form the basis of mathematics called "Arabic"? They are, of course, of Indian origin, but that's also Eastern, isn't it?

                But if we take a global perspective... will you deny the contribution of the most ancient cultures of Asia and the East to world civilization and culture? Well, yes, some Sumerians... it was the "Fomenkos" who came up with all sorts of Hammurabis with his first code of written laws that have survived to this day.

                Same to you.
                1. +2
                  April 11 2026 09: 06
                  Anatoly,

                  I never denied that the East played a significant role in the development of civilization. This is what you're trying to attribute to me.
                  But...Your view is at the high school level.
                  And in modern science, we know that a number of inventions in the East did not migrate to the West in any way.
                  Before "arithmetic" appeared in the Arab countries, it was borrowed from the West, from Byzantium, just like medicine.
                  But this is about us.
                  Don't write internet nonsense, what kind of "holes" did we have in the 17th century? Peter established a postal system according to the European standard.
                  What cannons did we borrow from the "Tatar-Mongols"? Where is this written down, in what document?
                  But the fact that we acquired both guns and paper from the West is a documented fact.
                  All the chronicles that have come down to us were written on European paper.

                  Russia relied on Western technology for three hundred years, becoming a technological power itself under the USSR, and borrowed nothing from Asia. Even you, aside from the "Tatar-Mongol" pits and cannons, haven't invented anything. Rather, Russia itself was a conduit for these technologies, like those of China or Persia.

                  If you want to believe in fairy tales, believe them.
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                    April 11 2026 13: 44
                    1. Byzantium, Rome, and Greece themselves learned mathematics and other sciences from more ancient Eastern cultures. The Sumerians and Egyptians used the "Pythagorean theorem" before Athens even existed.
                    2. Are you familiar with the word "coachman"? The postal service in Rus' existed long before Peter the Great. And the Europeans themselves developed their own postal service, learning from the Turks.
                    3. The Russians' first encounter with firearms occurred during the campaign against Volga Bulgaria (a vassal of the Golden Horde). In 1376, an army led by Dmitry Mikhailovich Bobrok-Volynsky defeated the Bulgars, taking tribute and mattress cannons as trophies. These were the first cannons in Russian service. They were mounted on the Moscow city walls, and as early as 1382, these guns were used in the city's defense against the troops of Khan Tokhtamysh. This is reported in the Novgorod Chronicle "Sophia Herald."

                    3. The Chinese, perhaps the Indians, invented paper. The Europeans themselves borrowed this know-how from the Asians. Just like paper money.

                    4. The West readily borrowed its technologies from the East, and until the 15th century, the East was equal to the West and Europe, and in some ways even surpassed them. And we are already living in an era when the East, Asia, is once again beginning to dominate technological development. Europe, meanwhile, is declining, and it's not a given that it will survive into the next century as an independent culture or civilization, rather than disappear like the Celts and Etruscans.
                    1. +2
                      April 11 2026 14: 10
                      Anatoly,

                      What difference does it make who invented something thousands of years ago? The explosion of progress is connected to the industrial technological revolution. Have you heard of it?
                      The main thing is who implemented and produced it on a mass scale.
                      We didn't get paper from the ancient civilization of China, and the alphabet didn't come from ancient Phoenicia, and we didn't get guns and gunpowder from an 11th-century Chinese treatise,
                      And you are attributing all these obvious things to technology, the basis of which, apart from assembly, has nothing to do with the East.
                      Not a single significant invention has been invented in the East in the last 30 years: not the Internet, not AI, not social networks, not the smartphone, not Google, which you refer to, not the computer, not the electric car, not even the drone... nothing.
                      This is not about the invention of the wheel, or who invented the chopper, but about industrial technology.

                      I can't understand,
                      Are you pretending to be like this or are you really like this?
                      1. 0
                        April 12 2026 09: 11
                        So what? The Industrial Revolution occurred in the West, but in the grand scheme of history, 30 years or even 300 years is a very short period. The East and Asia have already entered the industrial and even post-industrial eras themselves and are capable of further development without Western assistance. Let me remind you that 5G technology was first implemented in China, not the United States. So the West has lost both its monopoly and, to some extent, its leadership in scientific and technological progress. The United States ranks first in innovation, but China and Japan are second and third.
                        So, accept it and accept it as a given: the West is losing its leadership, it is passing to the East, to Asia, and this will last for a very long time.

                        And finally... the problems of generational change and migrants are most acute for Western societies or those non-Western societies that have been most exposed to Western influence (like Russia and Japan, in particular).
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          3. Fat
            +2
            April 10 2026 17: 37
            One note: "Kitab al-jabr wa-l-muqabala" (The Brief Book of Completion and Contrast) is a mathematical treatise by Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi from the early 9th century. The term "algebra" derives from the book's title...
            Algebra is a different story laughing drinks
            1. +2
              April 10 2026 17: 44
              The term "algebra" comes from the title of the book...
              Algebra is a different story

              Understood nothing,
              I don't think I wrote anything about this? fellow
              1. 0
                April 11 2026 07: 59
                Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                Understood nothing,
                I don't think I wrote anything about this?


                "And what about the steam locomotive? the automobile? the steamship? the airplane? the sophisticated factories? all sorts of antillery? physics, yes, chemistry, with ALGEBRA and geometry?"

                This isn't yours by any chance?
                1. 0
                  April 11 2026 08: 55
                  Mine. And what did we borrow here from Asia?
                  1. 0
                    April 11 2026 09: 01
                    See above. Europeans learned numbers, and even the basics of algebra, from textbooks by Eastern experts (Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, in particular, who was nicknamed "Fatty").
                    Alas, in the Middle Ages, these same Europeans were rightfully considered outright savages in the eyes of the East, as this was clearly demonstrated during the Crusades...
                    1. 0
                      April 11 2026 09: 46
                      Who studied under Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi from Europe?
                      Name the scientists, what are their last names?

                      These are all naive fairy tales.
                      1. +1
                        April 11 2026 13: 10
                        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
                        Who studied under Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi from Europe?
                        Name the scientists, what are their last names?


                        Banned on Google or just lazy?

                        Al-Khwarizmi developed detailed trigonometric tables containing the functions of sine, cosine, tangent, and cotangent. In the 12th and 13th centuries, works such as "Carmen de Algorismo" (Alexander of Villedieu) and "Algorismus vulgaris" (John of Sacrobosco) were written in Latin based on al-Khwarizmi's books and remained relevant for many centuries. Until the 16th century, translations of his books on arithmetic were used in European universities as the main mathematics textbooks.

                        https://www.koob.ru/al_horezmi/
    2. 0
      7 September 2026 22: 21
      Marxism also sometimes misfires.

      No, this is one big misfire.
  7. +1
    April 11 2026 05: 36
    Quote: ANB
    Therefore, your colleagues have every right to argue with you. :)

    Shukshin has a very good story, "Cut Off." There's also an "argument" there...
  8. +1
    April 11 2026 09: 03
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, thank you for publishing!
    Sometimes, with your opinions, it’s like throwing a handful of aluminum shavings into a vat of sulfuric acid, around which commentators stand and smoke regular cigarettes.
    Why is 5 years considered a threshold before the foundations are formed? My personal opinion is 5-8 years. It probably depends on the individual.
    1. 0
      April 11 2026 15: 16
      Quote from Fangaro
      Why is 5 years a kind of threshold before which the foundations are formed?

      Obviously, this is an average figure. Moreover, if the environment doesn't change, the experience gained before age five only becomes stronger. Remember Mowgli's children... At what age did the two girls end up with the wolves? The younger one was eventually brought up to human standards, but the older one died of longing... for a normal life!
  9. +1
    April 11 2026 15: 08
    Vyacheslav Olegovich, as I understand it, you want to smoothly approach the 2091 crisis, but you want to use the so-called "generation theory" as an evidence base. However, this theory is criticized and not accepted in the scientific community due to insufficient evidence. Therefore, it is not a theory, but a hypothesis that can be taken on faith or not. But drawing any conclusions based on it is somehow reckless. And if it can be applied to Penza province, that does not mean it is applicable to Siberia, the Caucasus, Central Asia, etc. It would be like walking on a rotten plank without knowing when it will last. And also, regarding the first generation of immigrants. There were several waves of these immigrants: the first wave were immigrants before the First World War; they were indeed slaves and serfs. I spoke a long time ago with an old woman who lived through those times, a peasant herself, and she called them "paupers," meaning they had no authority in the village. The 2nd wave: from the First World War until the end of the Civil War - these were widowed families, both from poverty and hunger. The 3rd wave: after collectivization, i.e. the early 1930s - people left for the cities, having lost their property and the reason to stay in the village. The 4th wave: after the 1950s - young people left in search of a better life. So the cultural and moral composition was varied. Regarding the 1991 crisis, I want to say: In the mid-80s, as a young specialist, I got a job at a modern, automated factory using German equipment. The automation was breaking down, replacing it would take time and hard currency, and all of this was being handled through the ministry; equipment downtime was unacceptable, and the state planning system hadn't been abolished. To get around this, the equipment was converted to manual operation and an operator was stationed at each machine. Deep down, I wondered, "What next?" I got a job at another plant. The equipment there was so worn out and outdated that the machines were literally dancing "ballet steps," and state procurement had been introduced, demanding quality. I asked myself the same question again, "What next?" And then came the events of 1991. Both plants were gone, along with many others, which didn't surprise me, although deep down I had hoped for their survival, at the cost of a return to the Stone Age. So, 1991 was kind of expected for me, but not as drastic.
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      April 11 2026 15: 17
      Quote: Igor Rusa
      The first wave were settlers before the First World War; they were indeed slaves and serfs. I spoke a long time ago with an old woman who lived through those times, a peasant herself, and she called them "paupers," meaning they had no authority in the village. The second wave: from the First World War until the end of the Civil War – these were widowed families, both from poverty and hunger. The third wave: after collectivization, i.e., the early 1930s – people left for the cities, having lost their property and the reason to stay in the village. The fourth wave: after the 1950s – young people left in search of a better life. So the cultural and moral composition was varied.

      But not by much!
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        April 11 2026 16: 41
        Everyone has the right to have their own opinion.
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          April 11 2026 17: 19
          Quote: Igor Rusa
          Everyone has the right to have their own opinion.

          No! Only a knowledgeable person has the right to an opinion. An ignoramus trying to defend his opinion looks foolish. He resembles a blind man feeling a part of an elephant and insisting that this part is the whole elephant.
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            April 11 2026 18: 04
            But the whole elephant consists of elephant parts, and these parts must somehow fit together without leaving any blank spots.
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              April 11 2026 19: 51
              Quote: Igor Rusa
              without leaving blank spots.

              You're unlikely to be able to touch an elephant's back without a ladder, much less stick your hand under its tail. So, white spots are always a possibility.
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            April 12 2026 09: 14
            "A specialist is like a gumboil: his fullness is one-sided." Kozma Prutkov.
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              April 12 2026 09: 21
              Quote: Illanatol
              "A specialist is like a gumboil: his fullness is one-sided." Kozma Prutkov.

              However, if you have a toothache, you wouldn't go to a fortune teller, but to a specialist, so I don't see anything wrong with that. The main thing is that the specialist is competent. Although, yes, versatility is also a good thing; it helps in professional development.
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                April 12 2026 09: 35
                "Let the shoemaker judge no higher than his shoes."
                You can be a pro in something, but it doesn’t mean you’ll become an expert in other areas of activity.

                Versatility... alas, in our time, new "Leonardo da Vincis" are no longer possible. As the saying goes, life is short, art is eternal... and sometimes life simply isn't enough.
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                  April 12 2026 16: 32
                  Quote: Illanatol
                  but it is not a fact that you will become an expert in other fields of activity.

                  Of course. Development is one thing, but professionalism is another.
                  Here, I'd say it's all about percentages and quotas. You might be a poor specialist in the photos of other specialists, but compared to non-specialists, you might be a real winner. And quotas in percentages are how many of each there are in society.
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      April 11 2026 17: 20
      Quote: Igor Rusa
      But to draw any conclusions based on it is somehow reckless.

      Well, we'll see...
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    April 11 2026 15: 14
    Quote: Egoza
    Was this adaptability really instilled at the age of 3-5? (I have over 30 years of teaching experience, from kindergarten to university, so to speak.)

    I'm very pleased that you're knowledgeable. But yes, ages 3-5 are the age of ALL basic behavioral structures and morals, and during this time, the child is influenced by both family and extra-family environments. This is the Alpha and Omega of pedagogy.
  11. +1
    12 August 2026 14: 34
    Well, guys, it must be said that ideologically, Antosha Chekhonte was an enemy of the Russian people, just like the revolutionary Tolstoy, who was pro-Jewish.
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    12 August 2026 15: 06
    There is such a concept as “the deification of man” - this is when a person cultivates the image of God within himself.
    Those who have ears will hear, I hope that you, Russian people, understand this.
    And all those forms, short ones, muzis, and other things alien to Orthodoxy have always, I repeat, always lied to the Russian people. (i.e., pro-Jewishness is the reverse process.)
    That's it.
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    7 September 2026 22: 12
    It's a pity that there is no option to put a minus.
    My advice:
    Don't shake the mummy, it has long since rotted.