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Amphibian Man. Special Forces of the Soviet Navy

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Those who served in the Mediterranean squadron of the Navy, sometimes seen as in the area of ​​the parking of the ships, then hiding, then appearing among the waves, easily slid inflatable boats with camouflage coloring. These are combat swimmers of the Navy, carrying combat duty, practiced their actions ...


Marine Special Forces

Various names that hid their true purpose still confuse the pages of newspapers and magazines. They are confused with the Marine Corps, they are listed on either the Vympel or the Alpha, in American style they are called “sea lions”, they say with certainty that they are PDSS (anti-sabotage forces and means, which, by the way, have a completely opposite task).

Few managed to meet and talk with those who served in these really secret parts. I was lucky to be the commander of a group of naval special forces for six years, so I hope to bring some clarity to this issue.

The closeness of this topic, which is even now under the heading “owls. secretly, ”is clear from the tasks facing combat swimmers. This is coastal intelligence fleetthe destruction of mobile launchers, command posts, air defense systems, hydraulic structures, ships, ships - and much more, where accurate calculation, excellent physical and technical training, dedication and faith in those who are close to you are required. Many tasks performed by special forces of the Navy often seem impossible, but the fact that the enemy excludes even the possibility of their fulfillment allows combat swimmers to achieve success.

Swimming in the storm

Military swimmers were assigned to conduct reconnaissance on coastal directions, the destruction of mobile launchers, command posts, air defense systems, hydraulic structures, ships, ships - and much more that require accurate calculation, excellent physical and technical training.

9 July 1986 of the year. One of the southern cities of the then USSR, a group of three swimmers consisting of three people, set the following tasks: to implement a conditional breakthrough of the USSR sea border between 15.00 and 16.00, sailing to the outer roadstead (distance 6 nautical miles - approximately 11 km), where the “foreign vessel” stood (ship mediator). The task was set to us by the command of the border area in order to check the combat readiness of its units, which explains the time, which is ridiculous for such operations, in broad daylight. In other words, the task presupposed our failure.

But we decided not to fail. They made additional exploration, and since the area of ​​the breakthrough was determined in the city, the group, dressed in civilian clothes, under the guise of vacationers, identified patrol routes and patrol mode. The greatest difficulty was to change into diving equipment and find yourself in the water. The preliminary calculation was that there would be a lot of swimmers on the shore, but that day, as luck would have it, drizzled light rain, a strong wind was blowing from the sea. Therefore, we had to put on diving equipment (wet type!) Under clothes, then seep one by one into the concentration area near the sea coast, using “holes” in patrols and bypassing “secrets”.

Taking off their clothes, disguising them and capturing the rest of the equipment, the group slipped unnoticed into the water. The first meters of the 70 group sailed under water, and then the 20 swimmers swam for XNUMX minutes using a special technique, appearing above the surface of the water just for inhaling. A strong wind raised high waves, which we used as a cover.

The patrol boats passed so close that people’s faces were visible on the deck, but the group went unnoticed. Swimmers floated, guided by a compass, they were in the water for about five hours, swimming more than 10 kilometers in the stormy sea, but the task was successful (not for border guards) ...

Ferocious selection

The special forces of the Navy had only a few units (by the way, after the collapse of the USSR, the most combat-ready part of the naval special forces went to Ukraine). Selection in these parts was very strict. Many of the conscripts did not even know exactly where they were selected before arriving at the unit. Before being drafted into the army, young men with sports classes were given light diving and parachute training at DOSAAF, of which candidates were selected at the recruiting stations by special officers, from which the training squad was formed for additional training.

For six months, they were trained under a special program, where physical and psychological stress was close to the limit. The candidates were constantly supervised by sergeants from combat units, who selected people in advance in groups. Physical, vocational training was assessed according to standards, and psychological stability was tested according to the results of various tests. For example, such a test could be a march at night without specifying the distance and time of the run. Towards morning, when complete physical exhaustion occurs, it is psychological stability that begins to manifest itself. Only a few are able to run, not paying attention to the legs knocked into the blood, to the tired fatigue. Those who passed this and other numerous tests were enrolled in combat units.

The service life was three years. The combat training program was very diverse and included diving, airborne, navigation-topographic, mountain special, maritime, physical training, mine-disruptive business, hand-to-hand combat, survival in various conditions, foreign armies and theater of military operations, radio equipment and much more, without which it can not do in a modern war.

Equipment - match tasks

To perform a wide range of tasks, combat swimmers had to have in their arsenal at least a wide arsenal of weapons and technical equipment.

Amphibian Man. Special Forces of the Soviet Navy
For the movement under water, individual towers, group carriers and ultra-small submarines were used. These technically sophisticated devices made it very easy to complete tasks.

Since the fighting had to take place not only on land, in addition to all types of conventional small arms, swimmers had an underwater pistol and an underwater gun APS, which made it possible to hit targets both underwater and on land. Special weapon used for silent and flameless shooting and included various pistols and machine guns and a scout's shooting knife (LDC). To enhance the firepower of the group could be armed with grenade launchers, flamethrowers, MANPADS, ATGM.

The rifle training in the units received great attention. Thanks to the care of the fleet command, we were not subject to restrictions on the issuance of ammunition. For example, for one shooting, a group of ten people fired thousands of rounds of ammunition and 1,5 – 2 grenades from a grenade launcher in 8 – 16 exercises, and a part of the whole spent annually 5 – 7 rounds of ammunition.

The main emphasis in the preparation was on the rapid defeat of the target in various situations from the first shot. The mode of fire when performing exercises was set to a single, with a high rate of fire, with a constant change of positions, although the rifle instructions of those years required only automatic fire. The effectiveness of our version of the shooting was confirmed by time.

Engineering weapons were also quite diverse and included conventional explosives, standard army charges, both high-explosive and cumulative, anti-personnel and anti-tank mines, as well as special anti-ship mines.

We could all

Combat swimmers learned how to mine objects on land and in water, deactivate minefields, make mine traps from improvised means, calculate charges and much more. Excellent engineering skills were achieved by constant practical training. BB released for classes also without delay and restrictions.

Jumps from ultra-low heights were made without a spare parachute, since the time under the dome was still calculated in seconds. High preparedness allowed us to jump without injury at wind speed 14 m / s, and on some exercises I had the opportunity to parachute at wind 17 m / s.

For confident work with warheads and mines, respect for explosives and solid theoretical knowledge are necessary. Respect was worked out with concrete examples, which, perhaps, were not always in the spirit of “guiding documents”, but very effectively achieved the goal. You can say a hundred times about security measures when dealing with explosives, but much more convincingly when Ka-Deshke (a detonator capsule weighing less than 3 g) carries the box from the cartridges to slivers - and there are no more willing to stick it in your pocket or pick it up wand.

The main task of the groups is actions in the rear of the enemy. Delivery of combat swimmers to objects could occur in several ways: ground, air, sea. Amphibious parachutes D5, D6, PV-3 were used for landing airplanes and helicopters. The latter allowed the swimmer to land in diving equipment on the water. The reliability of the PV-3 is indicated by the fact that it was used in the landing test from supersmall heights, which was carried out in a unit on the Black Sea Fleet in June 1986. Then we practiced jumps from 120, 100, 80 and 60 meters. And Colonel V. Pozdnyakov made a record jump with 50. The jumps from the super low heights were made without a spare parachute, since the time under the dome was still seconds. High preparedness allowed us to jump without injury at wind speed 14 m / s, and on some exercises I had the opportunity to parachute at wind 17 m / s. In addition to conventional parachutes, various cargo parachute systems were used.

Under the water

Our UGK-3 overalls for comfort were far from ideal. But IDA-71 allowed, with proper use, to squeeze out of it 1,5 times more than the standard time under water

Diving training is what defined our name. Our main equipment was the IDA-71 apparatus and the AVM-5 scuba diving gear used to provide diving descents. The IDA-71 devices are reliable, but require a high level of training from the diver. Confident possession of them was achieved only through long training.

Even after a short dive under all the seekers of romance, illusions disappeared, and when walking in the apparatus to full autonomy after coming out of the water, even close friends did not always recognize the swimmers. What to do: our UGK-3 overalls were far from ideal in terms of comfort. But the device IDA-71 allowed with proper use squeeze out of it in 1,5 times the standard time under water.

Diving equipment was complemented by hydroacoustic stations, navigation devices and many others. For the movement under water, individual towers, group carriers and ultra-small submarines were used. These technically sophisticated devices greatly facilitated the execution of tasks, but the main character was still a combat swimmer, his fitness and physical endurance. People in rubber overalls opposed themselves to the metal of ships.

Masters of all trades

On one of the workouts of combat training tasks, a group carrier unexpectedly sank. Since the depth allowed, the crew did not leave it and continued to fight for the salvation of the product. The emergency blowing system did not work (the engineer preparing the product forgot to open the valve on the emergency blowing cylinder). After some time, the sergeant, who was sitting in the second cabin, ran out of oxygen, and he had to ascend on the orders of the commander. The officer remained under water and continued his attempts to “revive” the equipment. Oxygen began to run out at him too - and at that moment it was possible to turn on the pump of the surge tank and float to the surface. In the surface position, the crew returned to the base.

Multilateral preparedness of combat swimmers was required when guarding our ships during the youth festival in Cuba, during the meetings of Mikhail S. Gorbachev in Reykjavik and in Malta, where it was the naval combat swimmers who were guarding under water (and not the KGB, which didn’t had combat swimmers of sufficient readiness - not to mention the underwater means of movement). In the initial period of the division of the Black Sea Fleet, swimmers were guards of the fleet commander Kasatonov during his trips to Georgia. Combat swimmers had to tackle many other tasks: this is the search for aircraft that fell into the sea and at shallow depths, the disposal of unexploded ordnance, the search for dangerous criminals in a mountainous wooded area, and the elimination of the consequences of technical disasters (for example, 1995 in summer). year in Kharkov).

It was possible for them to take part in the tragic stories passenger fleet - to lift the bodies of the dead from the sunken motor ship “Nakhimov” in August-September 1986. The combat swimmers examined the hull of the vessel, searching for clusters of the dead, using sea mines, pierced the holes in the board, through which the bodies removed the heavy divers - “tricollers” . As the ship lay at the maximum depth for this type of equipment, our midshipman Yu. Polishchuk died as a result of a tragic accident.

Checks for lice

In the process of training combat missions, combat swimmers were attracted several times a year to check the combat readiness of units and subunits of naval bases and their ability to repel an attack by enemy saboteurs. We at these exercises, in turn, worked out the methods of disembarkation, the tactics of covert penetration, the seizure of valuable prisoners, documents and much more.

The experience of the exercises of these years shows the high efficiency of actions of groups of combat swimmers, who, despite the number of all in 6 – 10 people, achieved very high results. We blocked the mine settings of the Navy, mined ships, air defense facilities. Almost always swimmers emerged victorious from an unequal duel: a dozen people, on the one hand, and a naval base (dozens of ships and thousands of people), on the other. Even then, the commanders of our groups in the reports on the results of the exercises indicated the weak anti-sabotage security of many objects, which is confirmed now.

Sturm "Comet" in seven seconds

Another task, worked out by combat swimmers, was the struggle against the seizure of ships by terrorists. At that time it was a purely theoretical question, but the hijacking of aircraft already occurred quite often. Therefore, in October 1988, together with the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, we conducted an exercise to free the captured hydrofoil ship Kometa. According to the scenario, “Comet” was stopped by border boats, negotiations were held with the terrorists. Two options were tested: underwater and above-water. Four subgroups each had their own task. Using the dead zones of the wings of the Comet, they concentrated on the simultaneous storming of the vessel. Weapons - special, noiseless, which during the assault was fixed for insurance on the body of each swimmer. For a quick climb on the wings of the Comet, light ladders (ladders) with zero buoyancy were used.

After giving the signal, the first two subgroups captured the first bow saloon and the captain's cabin. The second two - central and aft salons. The main targets of suppression were people with weapons or resisting. The whole operation to capture and destroy the three "terrorists" took seven seconds.

Currently, the Navy's combat swimmers, like our entire army, are going through difficult times, although the level of preparedness is still very high. But people leave, invaluable experience is lost, for which it is paid in blood and sweat. It’s time, given the experience of recent local wars, to approach the creation of unified forces of special operations, when the entire operation to reconnaissance, seize or destroy an object would be carried out by unified special forces (special groups, aviation, firearms) without the involvement of extraneous forces and means.

I would like to hope that in the Russian armed forces naval special forces swimmers will still occupy a worthy place.
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  1. seller trucks
    seller trucks 8 June 2013 09: 24 New
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    Many draftees did not even know exactly where they had been selected before arriving at the unit. Prior to being drafted, young men with sports ranks underwent light diving and parachute training at DOSAAF, of whom candidates were selected by special officers at recruiting stations, from which a training detachment was formed for additional training.


    I very much doubt that the "combat swimmers" recruited conscripts, if now in the Navy Marine Special Forces the number of which is up to 1000 people are only professional officers, then in the elite "best of the best" conscripts

    PS there is one more non-docking in the article, the author writes about the hydro-kombesa of the UGK-3 I went to Kronstadt in 1990 in diving training in a dry GK without an “appendix” with a “wallet” from above, I don’t remember the model, don’t judge, I think “swimmers "tested these GK in the first place
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 8 June 2013 13: 37 New
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      I would like to hope that in the Russian armed forces naval special forces swimmers will still occupy a worthy place.

      everything is fine. Already occupy ...

      PS there is one more non-docking in the article, the author writes about the hydro-kombesa of the UGK-3 I went to Kronstadt in 1990 in diving training in a dry GK without an “appendix” with a “wallet” from above, I don’t remember the model, don’t judge, I think “swimmers "tested these GK in the first place

      Dear, UGK-3 for your information with the "appendix" (cuff, also the entrance to the suit) and with the "wallet".
      you, apparently only from the side saw the swimmers when they are standing on the shore with open "wallets" ...
      if at least once immersed in the UGK, then you would not have questions.

      the author simply copied texts from the Internet from the stories of swimmers (divers) of various units. apparently he was too lazy to write ...
      I think so.

      1. old man54
        old man54 9 June 2013 01: 26 New
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        Quote: w.ebdo.g

        everything is fine. Already occupy ...

        Good afternoon!
        I would like you, as a person unconditionally related to the topic, to comment on one story that I heard not so long ago in one of the most popular TV programs on the topic of the supernatural and alien. Unfortunately I don’t remember the name of the film, if I find it, I will inform you. In it, the film, it was said that during one of the training of underwater special forces on Lake Baikal, after about the 80th year, but in Soviet times, it seems, under water there was a collision with some subjects in very strange silver-colored overalls, like fish scales , and such a design, which the special forces have never seen. Subjects were outwardly very similar to people (arms, legs, head), but longer. they did not leave any air bubbles and moved very quickly in the water. For some reason, the special forces decided that it was before a hostile state and entered into an underwater battle with them! And it seems that the battle ended for them very poorly (for ours). Further comments on this story ended and there was room for the imagination of the beholder. But hinted at the not entirely human (homosapiens) origin of these unknown swimmers. Question: did this take place in life, in the history of such units, or is it all the notions of television operators? Thanks in advance.
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g 9 June 2013 10: 05 New
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          it was said that during one of the training of underwater special forces on Lake Baikal, after about the 80th year, but in Soviet times, it seems, under water there was a collision with certain subjects in very strange silver-colored overalls, like fish scales, moreover, of such a design, which the special forces have never seen. Subjects were outwardly very similar to people (arms, legs, head), but longer. they didn’t leave any air bubbles and moved very quickly in the water

          Among the fighters and the command staff, such information did not pass.
          everything can be. people are selected speaking little ...
          during my service, I saw only something that was similar to a UFO in description ...
          no other well-known technique can behave this way and has no such performance characteristics.
          I can’t explain anything else on this issue, due to the low information content.
          like so.
          1. old man54
            old man54 10 June 2013 03: 33 New
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            Thanks for the answer sincerely!
    2. Apostle
      Apostle 8 June 2013 13: 40 New
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      ... "by the way, after the collapse of the USSR, the most combat-ready part of the maritime special forces retreated to Ukraine" ... which it successfully passed ..am
      1. seller trucks
        seller trucks 8 June 2013 14: 28 New
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        Quote: Apostle
        Dear, UGK-3 for your information with the "appendix" (cuff, also the entrance to the suit) and with the "wallet".
        you, apparently only from the side saw the swimmers when they are standing on the shore with open "wallets" ...
        if at least once immersed in the UGK, then you would not have questions.



        I found everything, in my "personal diver’s personal book", my main specialty relates to the warhead-4, the wetsuit was called IED-3, do not judge strictly 23 years have passed
    3. specKFOR
      specKFOR 8 June 2013 15: 29 New
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      In the USSR, conscript soldiers, in this case, sailors, made up the elite of the Special Forces of the Navy. The training of soldiers in the Union was much, much, much better than now. Especially in the brigade that remained in Ukraine (73 or 72 special operations center). There, only an officer group is strong from 3 units.
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay 8 June 2013 19: 12 New
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      Quote: seller trucks

      I doubt very much that they recruited conscripts from conscripts into the "combat swimmers",

      They were recruited from conscripts in the USSR!
      We have in the Caspian Fleet, in Baku, and now have a famous division of naval saboteurs!
      Its creator and first commander was Pashits Vitaliy Georgievich!
      Dear captain of the first rank, Pashitsa I know well, I was lucky enough to be acquainted and now lives in Baku! A very competent, workaholic with tremendous capacity for work, with a good sense of humor, a high-class professional!
      He wrote several books- “Vice Admiral G. G. Kasumbekov Difficult Tests and Successful Success”, * Notes by the Commander of the Caspian Special Forces *, “From Preparing to Special Forces”, * Underwater Special Forces of Russia * and other books, he gave me one at a time autographed)))
      I wish the distinguished commander of good health)))
      1. omsbon
        omsbon 8 June 2013 22: 08 New
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        Quote: Yarbay
        , * Underwater special forces of Russia * and other books, one at the time gave me an autograph)))

        Alibek, I envy you!
        I wish Pashevets V.G. health and success! I read some of his books, I liked them very much.
    5. воронов
      воронов 8 June 2013 23: 09 New
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      I very much doubt that the "combat swimmers" recruited conscripts, if now in the Navy Marine Special Forces the number of which is up to 1000 people are only professional officers, then in the elite "best of the best" conscripts

      [/ Quote]
      And there is nothing to doubt in the USSR, they served in special forces, including and conscripts, the service life in the Navy until the end of the 60's was 4 of the year, in the army of 3 of the year, and then 3 and 2 of the year, respectively. There is enough time to train any army specialists of the senior and sergeant level (taking into account the highest level of training in at that time, in training units). Although the emphasis was on officers and extra-urgent personnel, but where you recruit so many officers after the military unit to staff these units, the training period in the military unit is known to be 4-5 years, and for the military higher education institution as a rule 5 years.
  2. cartridge
    cartridge 8 June 2013 10: 24 New
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    A full-fledged documentary film about the special forces of the Russian Navy
    1. jumpmaster
      jumpmaster 8 June 2013 22: 31 New
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      In the film, too, everything was mixed up, and PDSS and anti-terror, and BB. In short, they do not want to show classified materials!
      1. Containers
        Containers 9 June 2013 15: 54 New
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        Well yes. "For the first time on screen, the secret weapon of underwater combat." It already figs knows how much time has ceased to be a secret, but it is necessary to maintain the surroundings.
  3. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 8 June 2013 11: 59 New
    +3
    Combat swimmers are an elite from the elite of the special forces of the Ministry of Defense, because they, in addition to the tasks of ground special forces, also perform underwater operations.
    1. gagarinneon
      gagarinneon 8 June 2013 13: 58 New
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      We were with these guys at a diving training on Russky Bay Dzhigit, what to say, the guys were frostbitten (in the good sense of the word), the command was even worse. It’s unusual to watch the movements of fighters and sergeants in part, constantly running and no matter where they go to the parade ground or to the dining room. There is a lot of unusual that you will not see in other military units, models from machine-gun crew to rocket launchers are everywhere. In terms of a lot of weapons, both of our production and foreign, some of which were striking in the year 1894, 1902, etc.
      The preparation was different from ours (SPN GRU), if we ran 10-15 km a day, they ran this distance in the morning instead of charging, to be precise 14 km. Of course, the guys were “REKS” in our eyes, although our studies were no worse, and in the forest, with an unexpected encounter, the groups were developing worse than us, which surprised us greatly. Their element is the sea.
      1. Baron Wrangell
        Baron Wrangell 10 June 2013 10: 10 New
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        Quote: gagarinneon

        gagarinneon


        8 June 2013 13: 58

        ↑ ↓ New


        We were with these guys at a diving training about Russky Bay Dzhigit, what to say, the guys were frostbitten (in the good sense of the word), the command was even worse.

        I agree, I was at the end of 80 = x with them, and then by chance, I watched everything with an open mouth! smile
  4. sleepy
    sleepy 8 June 2013 13: 05 New
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    Once upon a time, much was written about the ability to breathe underwater without the use of technical means.
    For example, about some mixture that filled the lungs,
    As a result, the body could absorb the oxygen in the water.
    And the public discussion of this topic began with the film adaptation of the novel
    A. Belyaev "Amphibian Man".
    Alexander Belyaev had many fantastic books on various topics.
    "Star CEC" - the exploration of the near Cosmos.
    "Ariel" - the ability to fly without any scientific justification.
    "Professor Dowell's Head" is a mind living outside the body.
    "Lord of the World" - a psychotronic weapon that changes people's behavior
    for the benefit of the owners of this technique.
    "Seller of air" - the viciousness of capitalism, ready to destroy
    almost the entire population of the planet for their own benefit.
    "Amphibian Man" - genetic experiments on humans ...
    .... this is only part of the books of A. Belyaev, who studied at the Smolensk Theological Seminary, then graduated from the Yaroslavl Demidov Law Lyceum.
    There was no reliable information about his death in occupied Pushkin.
    and a monument erected at the alleged death site of the writer.
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 8 June 2013 14: 09 New
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      such a substance does not exist.
      there is a device working on normal physical principles ...
      The developer of artificial gills is Alon Bodner. It was he who proposed to reduce the pressure of sea water in a sealed chamber.

      This allows you to restore dissolved oxygen in water in a gaseous state. The process resembles the formation of bubbles in a soda bottle. Carbon dioxide is released when pressure drops when the lid is opened.

      The oxygen thus obtained then enters the oxygen cylinder.

      Given that seawater contains about 1,5% dissolved oxygen, the Bodner system will have to process about 200 liters of water every minute to satisfy an adult's oxygen needs

      sort of lucidly explained ...

    2. Containers
      Containers 9 June 2013 15: 58 New
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      "For example, about some kind of mixture that filled the lungs,"
      it was written in science fiction novels

      "" The head of Professor Dowell "is a mind living outside the body."
      head separate from the body

      "" Amphibian Man "- genetic experiments on humans ..."
      surgical experiments
      1. sleepy
        sleepy 10 June 2013 02: 11 New
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        Quote: Kosha
        "For example, about some kind of mixture that filled the lungs,"
        It was written in science fiction novels. "


        About fiction and wrote.
        "Professor Dowell's Head" is a head with a mind living outside the body.
        Prior to this, a head without a body did not retain a mind.
        If you understand this, you can project the mind
        to another biological object (also from science fiction).

        "Amphibian man" - if a person is attached to a foreign organ with other DNA, the body will reject it. Therefore, when transplanting, relatives sometimes became donors, as the best option.
        If you change genetics, the transplant will not cause rejection reactions
        (also fantastic).
  5. PiP
    PiP 8 June 2013 13: 39 New
    +1
    gyyyy ... wassat Again they all mixed up - "... horses, people, in a heap, And volleys of thousands of guns Merged into a long howl ..." (c) M.Yu. Lermontov. Detachments (separate, mobile) fighting against PDSS and "thugs" with MCI are different people. After such an article, I vividly imagine an underwater saboteur traveling ashore on a “dam” (dp-62) and committing sabotage behind enemy lines in a volley of 40 pipes (quietly and not noticeable) laughing By and large, both those and other fellows.
  6. Containers
    Containers 8 June 2013 14: 47 New
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    They have always been called "Sea Devils." In contrast to the "seals" (I think the name was chosen because the "devil" is closer to murder (the profession of these people), death than the affectionate "cat"). Of course, this is not documented anywhere, but it happened.
  7. Arkan
    Arkan 8 June 2013 15: 58 New
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    If Russia plans to create a powerful Ocean Fleet, it is necessary to develop submarine special forces and PDSS services now, as well as Russia needs to restore the production of diving equipment and equipment - the lag in this industry can now be called (without exaggeration) catastrophic.
  8. stasdolgov
    stasdolgov 8 June 2013 17: 20 New
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    I got the impression that the author has a vague understanding of diving and did not dive himself. And therefore, it has nothing to do with this service. This is not only the aforementioned ignorance, but also the fact that his divers dive on “oxygen” and the fact that the Admiral Nakhimov (and not Nakhimov) submarine lies at the “maximum depth for this type of equipment”, which supposedly affected the death of midshipman Polishchuk. Midshipman served as a naval diver on the SS-21 rescue vessel (which was not subordinate to the PDSS Marine Special Forces, and from 15.11.1976 was part of the 158th division of the 37th brigade of rescue vessels.). Here is a detailed account of the incident: http://hmhsbritannic.ucoz.ru/publ/quotne_vernulsja_iz_morjaquot/3-1-0-67 I myself plunged into the usual, light-diving equipment, on the Admiral Nakhimov. The depth to the deck is about 26-30 meters, to the bottom 46 meters. These are the depths of recreational diving (for beginners). Those who worked for them then were professional divers. And the cause of death is different.

    And how does a person, supposedly 6 years as a commander of such a unit, make such mistakes? I'm not talking about copy-paste technology, when the same phrases are copied and pasted all over the place throughout the text. And I won’t believe that in the archive of the “commander” there were no personal photos, but not scans from the magazine.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 8 June 2013 18: 49 New
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      Quote: stasdolgov
      This is not only the aforementioned ignorance, but also the fact that his scuba divers dive on the “oxygen” and the fact that the Admiral Nakhimov farm

      I’ll venture to suggest that we are talking about one of the closed loop devices (or the “rebreather” in a new way) - in those years, depths of over 20 meters were really inaccessible to such devices because of the possibility of oxygen poisoning (at a depth of over 15 meters, pure oxygen for humans with poison).
    2. Arkan
      Arkan 8 June 2013 20: 40 New
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      Quote: stasdolgov
      And therefore, it has nothing to do with this service.

      Here you are right - the author of this article simply copied most of the information from the book "Underwater Special Forces" ...
    3. jumpmaster
      jumpmaster 8 June 2013 22: 33 New
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      I agree completely, a lot of jagged quotes are completely off topic from various sources.
    4. ded10041948
      ded10041948 9 June 2013 08: 02 New
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      I won’t say anything about equipment and diving (the specialization is different!), But mass repetitions left the impression that the author simply typed the "volume" of the article on the principle of "and so swallow it."
      If possible, what kind of disaster was in the summer of 1995 in Kharkov?
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  10. stasdolgov
    stasdolgov 8 June 2013 18: 59 New
    +3
    A rebreather is an apparatus in which carbon dioxide released during breathing is absorbed by a chemical compound (chemical absorber). And NEVER a person will breathe oxygen! With an increase in oxygen concentration to 35-40% of the total volume (and its in the air no more than 20%), oxygen supersaturation occurs. And pure oxygen just burns the lungs! They dive on breathing mixtures. But these are mixtures with a greater or lesser content of constituents. Scuba divers say "breathing oxygen", this is a gross mistake. A professional submariner will not even be able to say this word! This is the same as a doctor calls a scalpel with a knife.
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 8 June 2013 19: 37 New
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      Quote: stasdolgov
      With an increase in oxygen concentration to 35-40% of the total volume (and its in the air no more than 20%), oxygen supersaturation occurs. And pure oxygen just burns the lungs!

      No! If the human body is under pressure, the inhaled gases act on it completely differently from the surface! Pure oxygen, for example, already at a depth of 15 meters causes oxygen intoxication (in most cases, euphoria and a complete loss of control over oneself ). Closed-circuit breathing apparatus appeared much earlier than scuba gear, but they, unlike scuba gear, did not make a revolution in the development of depths precisely because the swimmer using them had to breathe almost pure oxygen (this is a feature of these apparatuses). plus - there are no unmasking bulbs on the surface. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. Some quotes from the article you posted indicate that the combined devices were used in that dive: “The regenerative cartridge has been broken!” He instantly determined.

      “I ask permission to switch to an open breathing scheme!” He asked for a command post.
  11. воронов
    воронов 8 June 2013 23: 42 New
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    I don’t remember where I was reading, and then I saw for a long time through the mailbox the transfer that in the 60 years when N.S. Khrushchev was on a visit to England, and he arrived there on a warship (in general, Nikita liked to make foreign visits on motor ship "Baltika", to Cuba, then travel around the country by train). So on a raid either in Liverpool, or in Manchester, our cruiser was standing on which Khrushchev arrived, of course we organized the corresponding military guard, probably some of our submarines were spinning, but that was not the point. The combat underwater patrolling of the ship was carried out by our fighting swimmers, or they were from the Navy, or from the marine sabotage and reconnaissance unit of the GRU special forces of the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Forces. So, on one of the underwater watch, our swimmer or starley noticed a typeus at the bottom of the cruiser, in light-diving equipment NII, whether that mine was installed, or why he was hanging around, in short, without thinking twice, he entered into a fight with him and cut off his head with a knife. Then, our headless body was dragged a few miles from the cruiser, and its head hovered in another place. As it later turned out, the deceased turned out to be almost a colonel or similar naval incursion, underwater British special forces, the Britons later found his body and buried him with honors. We were given the Red Star, but they forbade her to wear and generally told him to shut up and not they shouldn’t take a chance anywhere and never said such a thing, we’ll take your head off, they took a subscription. We also showed it on the telly of this moroman, my grandfather was already thin and gray, he was showing the order in his hands, but he says I never wore it, but now I don’t why. Muzhiks, I didn’t think up what I heard and saw myself, I said so. Maybe someone else knows about this fact, share it. bully
    1. stasdolgov
      stasdolgov 8 June 2013 23: 54 New
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      The case is described in detail in the article: THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DEATH OF COMMANDOR LIONELLA CRABB. It is dedicated to military intelligence veteran Eduard Petrovich Koltsov, who now lives in Rostov-on-Don. He is a participant in a high-profile story related to an attempt to undermine the cruiser Ordzhonikidze during the visit of N.S. Khrushchev to England in 1956.
      http://olenalex.livejournal.com/45364.html
      1. воронов
        воронов 9 June 2013 00: 37 New
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        Thank you, but unfortunately you can’t open your link
        1. stasdolgov
          stasdolgov 9 June 2013 00: 40 New
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          Type in the search engine TRUTH ABOUT THE DEATH OF COMMANDOR LIONELLA CRABB. Well, or by keywords there is a lot of information. The story is sensational, even documentaries were shot on it http://svpressa.ru/society/article/2503/?f=1
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 9 June 2013 03: 00 New
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        Quote: stasdolgov
        He is a participant in a high-profile story related to an attempt to undermine the cruiser Ordzhonikidze during the visit of N.S. Khrushchev to England in 1956.
        http://olenalex.livejournal.com/45364.html


        Of all the versions listed in this article, the most realistic version is that it claims that Crabbe died during the inspection of the screws (this was his task), the exact time and nature of the operation became known to undercover intelligence - this explains the timely launch of the screws. (namely, such a swimmer could deliver without a transporter, and indeed, such operations are not carried out by the forces of one swimmer) could only disable the cruiser and not drown. And even if Krebb had established a charge of sufficient power, the elimination of the cruiser does not guarantee the elimination of N.S. Khrushchev. Yes, and in general - a similar trick by the British would mean the beginning of the war. I think that all other versions were invented with one purpose - to cover up agents.
  12. old man54
    old man54 9 June 2013 01: 13 New
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    The article seems to be interesting, but not disclosed, but put a "+". Yes, there is a feeling that the author does not quite own the terminalology of underwater combat swimmers, which is somewhat saddening. I will not make further criticisms, I do not want to offend a person!
  13. lexe
    lexe 9 June 2013 19: 15 New
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    What would be surprising that conscripts were in the USSR. The system of sports schools worked properly. 2 workouts a day-7km in the pool (minimum). For fun, swim under water 2 * 25 = 50m. You emerge like a cork from under champagne-euphoria in the brain.) Already in the early stages of stress, problems appear in the body - screening is in progress, since the examinations at the doctors were constant.
  14. vasiliy1990
    vasiliy1990 9 June 2013 20: 02 New
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    Yes, they were strictly selected there!