The retirement age for T-72A tanks has been increased: they are now also being converted into T-72B3M tanks.

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The retirement age for T-72A tanks has been increased: they are now also being converted into T-72B3M tanks.

Since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, repair and modernization of domestic old tanks For combat use, which in other times was confined to storage ponds and bases, with the only option of leaving for disposal, has become mainstream. We all remember very well how this process began, and it continues to this day.

The first vehicles to be refurbished and sent to the front were T-62 tanks. To be fair, some of these tanks had been in reserve at near-full combat readiness even before the start of the Soviet Military Operation. However, the decision to withdraw T-62s en masse from storage and refurbish them through major repairs, installation of dynamic armor, and a thermal imaging sight became known in the fall of 2022.



The second wave of "mobilization" of old equipment became apparent in the summer of 2023, when images of trains carrying T-54/55 tanks began appearing online. For a while, many speculated that these tanks, essentially Stalin-era, were being transported to be gutted for spare parts for other vehicles. However, as expected, they ended up at the front, where they were used in a variety of roles, from solving typical tank tasks to serving as ersatz self-propelled guns.

Well, the most mysterious mass wave of old tank decommissioning began last year. And by mysterious, I mean literally, since for a long time it was unclear exactly what they were planning to do with them. Whether they were simply modernizing them or converting them into a different class of vehicle.

Not quite a T-72B3M


We're talking about T-72A tanks, which entered service back in 1979. Western analysts began talking about their gradual disappearance from storage bases and reappearing on Uralvagonzavod premises at least as early as the fall or summer of 2025, citing commercial satellite images that quickly spread across the internet. Then, some "very smart" compatriots made a splash, posting videos of trains of these tanks traveling through our country.

Many theories have been built around the potential use of T-72A tanks. Some have suggested they could serve as chassis for the Shturm robotic system—an unmanned, remote-controlled assault tank. There have also been suggestions that these "seventy-twos" will serve as the basis for a simplified version of the BMPT, dubbed the "Terminator-72."

Neither can be ruled out—we don't know all the plans, and we shouldn't. But Uralvagonzavod itself has lifted the veil of secrecy, as have ordinary people posting videos of tanks driving by. Some of them feature unusual T-72B3M tanks with a full complement of Relikt explosive reactive armor and T-72A turrets.


Screenshots from videos showing the distinctive turret cheekbones (characteristic cut) of the original T-72B3/B3M tanks have circulated on Western social media. Footage from Uralvagonzavod.



Screenshots from videos showing a feature on the turret cheekbones of modernized T-72As have circulated on Western social media. A still from a Uralvagonzavod video is included.

It's highly doubtful that Uralvagonzavod decided to churn out tanks as a hodgepodge, with the hull taken from one model and the turret from another. It's not exactly rational. Most likely, some of the reactivated T-72A tanks have already begun to be used instead of the T-72B, which was the original base for modernization to the T-72B3 standard, and specifically its latest variant, the T-72B3M.

It's difficult to say whether this is a widespread phenomenon. It's possible that the T-72As are now being modernized to the T-72B3M standard alongside the T-72B. However, the very fact that they are located in the same factory could also theoretically indicate that the T-72B tanks and their variants are simply starting to run out of stock. This is hardly surprising: we've been actively fighting for five years now, and the T-72B tanks, which entered service in the USSR in the mid-1980s, weren't exactly in great supply.

Sooner or later, given current conditions, this could happen—no matter what, even with the T-80BVM and T-90M in production, the T-72B3M remains our army's main battle tank. This means that the percentage of these combat vehicles lost as irreparable losses is much higher than that of other tanks.

That said, don't think we have enough tanks, to paraphrase a certain Ukrainian terrorist extremist, to last only two or three weeks. The reserves accumulated during the Soviet era are, of course, gradually depleting. But even in the worst-case scenario, with only T-72As in storage, Uralvagonzavod will continue to supply the front with the necessary equipment for years to come.

Is the original better?


Here, of course, a reasonable question may arise: won’t the T-72A tanks adjusted to the T-72B3M standard be worse than the original?

Indeed, if we compare the original versions of both vehicles, the T-72B, which entered service in the mid-1980s, certainly has the advantage—it has better frontal armor, a more comprehensive armament suite, and so on. But these differences apply to vehicles that haven't undergone any modernization.

During the upgrade of T-72A tanks to the T-72B3M standard, minor modifications may be made. The vehicles may receive the same engines as the original T-72B3M and be equipped with the same 125mm 2A46M-5 gun with an automatic loader modified to fire the new Svintsy rounds. The same applies to the fire control system with a Sosna-U multi-channel (thermal and optical) sight, communications equipment, and so on.


A completed T-72B3M (T-72A) with "Relikt" on the turret and hull (background). Screenshot from a Uralvagonzavod video.

That is, in terms of mobility, the ability to observe the battlefield, search for and engage targets, they will not differ.

Protection is roughly the same. Judging by the videos, the T-72A, like the original T-72B3M, is equipped with the same set of additional explosive reactive armor, maximizing coverage of the tank's vulnerable areas, such as the sides, rear, and roof. Furthermore, they receive a full set of "Relikt" explosive reactive armor on the front of the turret and hull (on later versions of the original T-72B3M, "Relikt" is only on the front of the hull).

Given the specific nature of the special military operation, the "Relikt" armor virtually equals the frontal armor of the T-72A and T-72B3M. Essentially, in terms of protection, the modernized T-72A is practically a copy of the T-80BVM, with its passive armor featuring identical components: quartz (sand) filler in the turret's front and fiberglass in the hull's front.

So, in theory, the troops don't really lose anything—even if the T-72A becomes the basis for the T-72B3M standard on a mass scale, its relevance on the battlefield will be no less than the original. The only problem is that the original T-72B3M tanks could one day become endangered, as already happened with the T-80U—an extremely rare tank whose production ceased long ago. But this problem is largely historical, and not practical.
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  1. + 56
    27 March 2026 05: 27
    Thanks to our fathers and grandfathers for their labor victories!
    1. + 44
      27 March 2026 06: 25
      Glory to the Soviet People!
      1. + 56
        27 March 2026 07: 14
        The remains of an ancient, more advanced civilization...
        1. +3
          27 March 2026 11: 05
          In the 1930s and 1940s, the Soviets developed remote-controlled combat vehicles. This work resulted in, among other things, the TT-26 tank, the first fully radio-controlled tank with a range of up to 1500 meters. The Russians first used them to repel the German offensive at the beginning of World War II. The Red Army had two battalions of these vehicles. The TT-26s were equipped with machine guns, flamethrowers, and explosives (up to several hundred kilograms). Therefore, they carried out "suicide attacks" without sacrificing the crew. Radio control was a huge advantage over the "Goliaths" of the Third Reich, whose remote-controlled tanks were controlled by wires. Once the wires were cut, the vehicle became useless.
  2. +3
    27 March 2026 06: 20
    It's interesting that in battle footage, tanks aren't really visible anymore, but if even these veterans are being modernized, that means they're stockpiling them somewhere to create strike forces.
    1. + 11
      27 March 2026 07: 14
      Upgrading a T-72, whether Type A or Type B, to the B3 version is not difficult. Moreover, the new T-90 and B3 vehicles are perfect for upgrading existing storage tanks.
      Now, as has already been noted, the main thing is to equip the armored fighting vehicle with a counter-drone system.
      It should be installed on the T-90, T-72, and T-80 of all modifications.
      Then armored fists will come in handy...
      1. +4
        27 March 2026 10: 29
        Armored fists are when they fully integrate many parameters: for example, active protection against both anti-tank missiles (Russia has long had them) and UAVs, and that's where the nuances come in. There are anti-drone UAVs like the Yolka; perhaps our engineers will be able to integrate armored vehicles with similar, existing UAVs? Just as they once integrated the Geranka with air-to-air missiles. And if we add to all this the fact that some of the vehicles in this tank fist will be unmanned, then perhaps it's worth talking about tank fists.
      2. +1
        April 1 2026 10: 33
        Quote: Alekseev
        The main thing in equipping an armored fighting vehicle with a drone-fighting system...
        Recently, some guys in a very well-known unit received 62-mm guns, just like in the article: with grills, electronic warfare, newer equipment... and with cameras for recording drone attacks. The 'commanders' demanded that we provide recordings and drone remnants, probably for reporting... or to leak to journalists, who are no longer allowed near the troops without a supervisory escort... chaos in the minds
    2. +3
      27 March 2026 13: 32
      It's interesting that in the footage of the battles, the tanks are no longer particularly visible,


      And now, you can rarely see anything in combat footage. As soon as you can see who or what is there, it's practically gone—drones immediately strike.
    3. -4
      27 March 2026 15: 49
      What strike forces and for what purpose? These days, mass Zergrash on tanks is a one-way street of fury with disastrous results. At most, they're turned into ersatz SPGs, but why so many low-level vehicles with unremarkable range—who knows?
    4. +4
      27 March 2026 18: 58
      Quote: Graz
      So somewhere they are accumulating resources to create striking fists

      No, they compensate for losses.
      1. +2
        28 March 2026 00: 57
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Compensate for losses

        But they are mainly used to equip new units, the decision on the deployment of which was made in the fall of 2022.
        Tanks have been used less and less in the last year and a half, so losses are relatively small, and many can be repaired and restored. So, most of the tanks are going to new units. Our western frontier and the new border with NATO are being closed by troops. Reserves are also being formed.
        The fighting now is mainly carried out by assault infantry on motorcycles, buggies and on foot.
    5. +2
      28 March 2026 00: 52
      Quote: Graz
      So somewhere they are accumulating resources to create striking fists

      New units are being formed and equipped, and they need new tanks. They're used much less frequently on the front lines now, but losses still need to be replaced. In principle, it looks like the entire fleet of T-72 and T-80 tanks of all modifications will be modernized. Some of them will be used as a base for other vehicles. The war will last a long time, and there will be many more wars in the next 15-20 years, so it makes sense to use everything that's available in storage bases, since building from scratch is four times more expensive. It's likely that cadre units will also be formed for rapid deployment during mobilization.
    6. +1
      28 March 2026 17: 34
      There won't be any fists, because drones dismantle tanks (even mangled ones) in absolutely commercial quantities. From what I've read, a tank usually goes into battle just once, after which it's immobilized and the crew rushes in to finish it off. And infantry needs to be deployed... That means you need a lot... a lot... of tanks.
  3. + 59
    27 March 2026 06: 26
    Remember how they vehemently criticized the communists for their militarism, claiming that excessive military spending had ruined the country? And yet, to this day, they haven't even apologized for this outcry. What would we do now without the great Soviet legacy? Despite all the efforts of the bourgeoisie for 35 years, the defunct Soviet Union still defends its wayward, ungrateful children...
    1. + 31
      27 March 2026 06: 32
      Quote: paul3390
      Despite all the 35 years of efforts of the bourgeoisie, the defunct Soviet Union still protects its wayward, ungrateful children...

      In the North-Eastern Military District, two degraded remnants of the USSR are fighting; what is happening there is due to poverty and decline.
      1. -4
        27 March 2026 07: 32
        Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
        Quote: paul3390
        Despite all the 35 years of efforts of the bourgeoisie, the defunct Soviet Union still protects its wayward, ungrateful children...

        In the North-Eastern Military District, two degraded remnants of the USSR are fighting; what is happening there is due to poverty and decline.

        I wouldn't be so categorical! I'd direct everything you've said toward the "Western" remnant! It's not really serious about the Eastern one! And considering that NATO is fighting for the Western remnant (at least with weapons, which is already quite a lot), it turns out that the Eastern one is standing firm and has no intention of surrendering! And that means it's not just a remnant, but a fully sovereign state that can defend its rights!
        1. +6
          27 March 2026 19: 01
          Quote: Traveler 63
          In the East it’s somehow not serious!

          Seriously. Although it's offensive, I don't argue.
          Quote: Traveler 63
          And considering that NATO is fighting for the Western scraps

          They've been fighting for it since about the second year of the war—deliveries were minimal in 2022. And the fact that we couldn't, even after the 2011-2020 GPV... Well, what else can you expect from a remnant of a great civilization?
          1. +2
            28 March 2026 02: 35
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            And the fact that we couldn’t do it, having carried out the 2011-2020 State Armament Program... Well, what else can you expect from a remnant of a great civilization?

            "They say it's in Siberia, at the Tyazhmash plant."
            Shoigi's deputies are sawing off the money, dividing it up into "sabbaths"
            Our tanks have become lighter, our mortars have become shorter.
            But on the other hand, the condition is growing much stronger."
            (c) almost Trofim
          2. -1
            28 March 2026 08: 19
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            They have been fighting for it since about the second year of the war - in 2022, deliveries were minimal.

            Good day, Andrey hi Judging by the losses, the main tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is various modifications of the T-64. These were not exported to Europe, so they are being used to capitalize on Soviet stockpiles.
      2. +3
        27 March 2026 13: 30
        No, no, we are bringing democracy, tolerance, friendship among the people and spiritual strength to a state of fascists, drug addicts and nationalists.
        1. -1
          28 March 2026 20: 30
          Quote: fiberboard
          No, no, we are bringing democracy, tolerance, friendship among the people and spiritual strength to a state of fascists, drug addicts and nationalists.

          belay How is this possible, how is this possible?!
          1. 0
            29 March 2026 04: 44
            What, don't you watch TV? It's on every channel, every show is demonstrating it. The best minds are working: Solovyov, Skabeeva, Babayan, Anya Prokhorova, Lyokha Pushkov, Dobrov, and more... The dumb hohols don't understand their own good fortune. And how nice it is: 20% mortgages, crowds of "tolerant" irreplaceable specialists on the streets, constantly rising prices for utilities and goods. What else do people want? Why don't they want to recognize Vladimir Vladimirovich as a great Palkavots?
            1. 0
              29 March 2026 16: 10
              Yes, the brothers/non-brothers don't understand their "happiness," as some have even commented on here. But the characters you mentioned aren't just making speeches for free, they're doing so for a (significant) reason... winked
      3. 0
        27 March 2026 13: 45
        Does NATO believe that they are supporting the "degraded remnant of the USSR" or do they think something different?
        Yeah, the Ukrainian Nazis are fighting because of poverty and decline. Zelensky himself is especially poor, I suppose...
      4. +1
        28 March 2026 01: 13
        Quote: ZhEK-Vodogrey
        In the North-Eastern Military District, two degraded remnants of the USSR are fighting; what is happening there is due to poverty and decline.

        Not at all. The former RSFSR is by no means a remnant of the USSR, but rather its most successful and largest remnant, and also its successor in the field of military engineering. It's just that the 15-20 year gap in development is taking its toll, and it's having to make up for lost time not in a thriving environment, but in the midst of a regional war.
    2. + 13
      27 March 2026 07: 20
      How correctly you wrote.
      At first, they wanted to “dig up everything Soviet to the ground.”
      And lo and behold: it is vitally important today.
    3. +4
      27 March 2026 09: 36
      Quote: paul3390
      Remember how they vehemently criticized the communists for their militarism, claiming that excessive military spending had ruined the country? And yet, to this day, they haven't even apologized for this outcry. What would we do now without the great Soviet legacy? Despite all the efforts of the bourgeoisie for 35 years, the defunct Soviet Union still defends its wayward, ungrateful children...

      If you constantly get into conflicts, then no legacy will be enough.
    4. +9
      27 March 2026 10: 46
      Quote: paul3390
      What would we do now without the great Soviet legacy?

      Hmmm... maybe they could have lived on their own? Instead of relying on the endless reserves of a dead giant who overextended himself trying to single-handedly outshine the entire NATO bloc.
      The Soviet legacy—like the stockpile of B-52 engines at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base—made the development and production of anything new and original unnecessary: It is possible, but why?
      Quote: paul3390
      Despite all the 35 years of efforts of the bourgeoisie, the defunct Soviet Union still protects its wayward, ungrateful children...

      Rather, it gives children the opportunity to fight with each other.
      1. +8
        27 March 2026 11: 50
        single-handedly surpass the entire NATO bloc

        Excuse me, but what are we doing now? what
      2. +7
        27 March 2026 12: 01
        who overextended himself in an attempt to single-handedly outdo the entire NATO bloc

        This is an absolutely inevitable process, regardless of the system in place on our territory...

        When NATO came to us with Napoleon at its head, was that what we wanted? When it came to us a second time with Hitler at its head, was the USSR trying to outdo all of Europe? Now they're coming to us for the third time, was it we who came at them first?

        So, it's the West's fault, not ours. We've always fought them alone—and always won. Except, of course, for the epic national betrayal of 1991... If we overexert ourselves, we'll perish.
        1. +4
          27 March 2026 12: 07
          Quote: paul3390
          who overextended himself in an attempt to single-handedly outdo the entire NATO bloc

          This is an absolutely inevitable process, regardless of the system in place on our territory...

          When NATO came to us with Napoleon at its head, was that what we wanted? When it came to us a second time with Hitler at its head, was the USSR trying to outdo all of Europe? Now they're coming to us for the third time, was it we who came at them first?

          So, it's the West's fault, not ours. We've always fought them alone—and always won. Except, of course, for the epic national betrayal of 1991... If we overexert ourselves, we'll perish.

          Well, the USSR was somewhat afraid of NATO, because back then no one dared even think about attacking a nuclear power. Besides, we coexisted peacefully with all of Europe and traded.
          1. +4
            27 March 2026 12: 25
            We coexisted peacefully with all of Europe, traded

            This was one of our fundamental mistakes. Trotsky was right – peaceful coexistence with the bourgeoisie is impossible.
        2. +3
          27 March 2026 15: 57
          Excuse me, but did we fight Bonaparte, that is, the French, one on one before 1812 and after?
          And with Hitler too, one on one?
      3. 0
        29 March 2026 11: 08
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Rather, it gives children the opportunity to fight with each other.

        Do you think dismantling the RSFSR for spare parts using small democratic bombings like in Yugoslavia would be better?
    5. 0
      27 March 2026 11: 37
      Quote: paul3390
      Do you remember how the communists were fiercely criticized for their militarism and how excessive military spending was said to have ruined the country?

      The USSR was well prepared for wars using military forces (the wars of Ares), but was weak in trade and economic wars (the wars of Athena), and by the end of its existence it lost miserably to the West in the semantic and ideological war (the war of Apollo).

      Those who want to "return to the USSR" apparently haven't forgotten anything, but they haven't learned anything either.
      1. +8
        27 March 2026 11: 53
        Well, yes. Compare the exports and trade influence of the Soviet Union and today's Russia. And you'll shed a tear. This is about Athens' war...

        He didn't lose to the West—he stumbled into what all the classics warned about. He began to adopt Western meanings and values ​​instead of his own. The classics also clearly describe why.

        And no one wants to return to the USSR. They want to build a USSR 2.1, corrected and expanded.
        1. +2
          27 March 2026 13: 45
          Quote: paul3390
          Well, yes. Compare the exports and trade influence of the Soviet Union and today's Russia. And you'll shed a tear. This is about Athens' war...

          The trade influence of modern Russia on world hydrocarbon prices is incomparably greater than the influence that the USSR had on world hydrocarbon prices in the 1980s.

          https://aif.ru/money/economy/proklyatie_chyornogo_zolota_kak_my_podseli_na_trubu

          "...then the infamous oil crisis of early 1973 arrived. The Arab-Israeli War broke out, which the Arabs lost. And many Arab OPEC countries refused to sell oil to the US and Western countries that had supported Israel in the war. The oil shortage practically paralyzed a number of countries, and we were tempted to make excess profits. And so the USSR began to increase oil production and exports, and build oil pipelines. From 1973 to 1983, the Union earned colossal amounts of money—hundreds of billions of dollars. But we squandered it, instead of using it for modernization. We spent it all on consumer goods. And the result is well known: in the mid-80s, the US, in agreement with Arab sheikhs, collapsed world oil prices—and the USSR economy received a terrible blow to the gut."

          Didn't you know that?
          He didn't lose to the West—he stumbled into what all the bearded classics warned about. He began to adopt Western meanings and values ​​instead of his own.

          The USSR lost to the West precisely because the only war they understood in the USSR was the "Ares War." They were like little children when it came to the "Athena War," and the late Soviet ideologists, enchanted by Western "systems convergence theory," simply had no idea about the "Apollo War." As a result, the USSR lost to the West even without any serious hot war. Of course, the war in Afghanistan, with its peak limited contingent of 120 Soviet troops in Afghanistan in September 1986, certainly wasn't considered such a war.
          Why is also clearly described by the classics.

          The belief that the classics of Marxism in the 19th century predicted the collapse of the USSR at the end of the 20th century (but for some reason did not predict the collapse of the PRC, in which the Communist Party did not renounce its leading role) is a very sectarian belief.
          And no one wants to return to the USSR. They want to build a USSR 2.1, corrected and expanded.

          And what absolutely must this USSR 2.1 have for all the apologists to consider it USSR 2.1—a red flag and a hammer-and-sickle emblem, like modern China? And what shouldn't it have? Legal billionaires, like those in modern China?
          1. 0
            27 March 2026 14: 15
            A collection of liberal myths.
            1. Petrodollars were largely not spent on Western consumer goods. There were very few Western-made goods on Soviet shelves. Most of the foreign currency was used to purchase technology and industrial equipment, and to support allies.
            2. The collapse of global oil prices didn't play a significant role. The USSR compensated for the decline in oil revenues by increasing exports of other goods (metals, timber, fertilizers, and delicacies). Before Gorbachev, the USSR was a global creditor, not a debtor. And even afterward, it maintained a positive balance.
            3. There were no delusions; it was all a lie. But how can one avoid losing the ideological confrontation if the people responsible are conscious and convinced anti-Sovietists like A. Yakovlev?
            4. The USSR was deliberately destroyed by those who saw personal or group gain in it. Some party officials wanted to transform themselves from stewards of public property into full-fledged owners, appropriating the fruits of Soviet people's labor. Unfortunately, they succeeded. And to whitewash their betrayal, they invented the myth of defeat in the Cold War. Naturally, Western elites were not opposed to this interpretation of events, blackmailing these traitors into working for Western interests...
            1. +2
              27 March 2026 16: 28
              Quote: Illanatol
              A collection of liberal myths.

              Whatever the petrodollars obtained from the 1973 oil crisis and the subsequent "fat" years were spent on—whether on foreign consumer goods for the population or on industrial robots rotting in the backyards of Soviet factories, even in shipping containers—the late USSR failed to effectively spend these petrodollars on its own modernization. And once the cascade of petrodollars had become a trickle, the USSR began borrowing from foreign creditors. By the time of its collapse in late 1991, it had already borrowed considerably.
              There were no delusions, it was all a lie.

              You write as if before A. Yakovlev, everyone in the Soviet elite was a “staunch Leninist-Stalinist.”

              https://pub.wikireading.ru/hNI2RVsvwP

              "I do not share the enthusiastic attitude towards Alexei Nikolaevich Kosygin, since the economic reform he carried out not only dealt the strongest blow to the Soviet economy, but also marked the beginning of the collapse of the Soviet system.

              [...]

              ...let's say the main thing: of all the top leaders of the USSR, Kosygin was most inclined to the idea of ​​the convergence of socialism and capitalism. I dare say once again that this is the death knell for socialism as such."
              And in order to whitewash their betrayal, they invented the myth of defeat in the Cold War.

              The myth that the USSR did not lose the Cold War, but simply decided not to participate in it any longer, smacks of Trotsky’s idea: “We are ending the war, we do not make peace"We are demobilizing the army."

              And on the banks of the Potomac, the local men didn't understand the domestic idea of ​​"peace, friendship, and chewing gum" and declared their victory in the Cold War. Considering that they gained practically everything, except perhaps control over the nuclear weapons of their former Soviet adversary, which had decided to no longer fight in the Cold War, they weren't that far off the mark.
            2. -3
              28 March 2026 16: 09
              Before Gorbachev, the USSR was a global creditor, not a debtor.


              What nonsense!? At the time of its collapse, the USSR had a debt of $100 billion, a colossal sum by today's standards. And when oil prices fell in the 1980s, the USSR asked the US for a loan, which was refused because of Afghanistan. Only Gorbachev received a loan of one billion dollars to buy food.

              The USSR was never a financial creditor, if only because the Soviet ruble had no exchange value or convertibility. The fact that the USSR supplied military equipment to the Arabs and Cuba using loans in no way indicates that the USSR was a financial creditor.
          2. 0
            28 March 2026 20: 40
            The oil shortage practically paralyzed a number of countries, and we were tempted to reap superprofits. So the USSR began to increase oil production and exports and build pipelines.
            Instead of paralyzing the others, they extended a helping hand to their enemies in their hour of need. Ares didn't teach this; it's something on the level of the stupid Indians feeding the starving early settlers.
            1. 0
              29 March 2026 23: 43
              Quote from alexoff
              Ares didn't teach this, it's something on the level of stupid Indians feeding starving first settlers.

              Yes, the "Kremlin elders" did not force the victorious end of the Cold War in the 70s with the "Ares War," when:

              https://inosmi.ru/20140721/221807970.html

              "...In the United States, the economy was falling apart. The oil embargo, deindustrialization, and other problems created "stagflation" (high inflation, high unemployment, and low economic growth)—a condition so rare today that we don't even use the word. From the mid-1970s to the early 1980s, interest rates remained staggeringly high, reaching a mind-boggling 21% in 1980 (about six times today's level); home and car loans were out of reach for ordinary Americans. (For my students, I got my first student loan at 13,5% interest in 1979, a rate that would be considered usurious today. So, you won't soften me.)

              Abroad, the United States was driven out of Vietnam in 1975 by a coalition of communist states, including the USSR. That same year, President Ford had to fly to Brussels and practically beg NATO to maintain unity. The American military, that great military force that had stormed the French coast 30 years earlier, was in terrible shape; drug addiction and crime were rampant; it had too many potential criminals. (For example, a friend of mine, now retired, was then a company commander in American units stationed in Germany. The situation there was so threatening that officers tried not to enter the barracks where the soldiers were quartered at night without a pistol.) While there were many who served honorably in the US military in the 1970s, we would have been hard-pressed to select the warriors who could have stood up to the Soviets on the front lines had they suddenly decided to attack.

              Why not attack? It wouldn't be hard for the Soviets to invent some false pretext, remembering their bloody battle with the Germans, and strike at the very heart of Central Europe, preferably in the depths of winter. Just one swift, short, and brutal blow—and NATO would shatter like glass..."

              Just like in hockey, "If you don't score, they score on you." In the 80s, the pendulum swung the other way... and the USSR fell.

              I think it's a good thing there was no "Ares War." The accumulated nuclear weapons stockpiles were such that, had it begun on the battlefield, it would have likely ended in an all-out thermonuclear war in which neither the USSR nor NATO would have survived.

              Well, as a result of the Cold War's outcome, the world is now in exactly the position we see today. And this world is apparently facing "30 years of war." 30, if that's all.
              1. 0
                30 March 2026 00: 33
                Judging by the 1980s, my childhood in the 1990s was spent amidst ruins, as if a nuclear war had actually happened. And only in our country. There used to be a pioneer camp in the woods; by 1995, all that remained were basements amidst the rubble, overgrown with grass; locals had literally stolen the bricks from the masonry. Now, townhouses there cost 30-40 million each. A hundred years from now, conspiracy theorists will be telling us that in the mid-1980s, the US launched a decapitating strike on the USSR, which lost a huge population and collapsed. Because the idea that the leadership of a nuclear superpower, for... literally for nothing, destroyed, robbed, and sawed up its own country for scrap doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Gorbachev accepted a hundred thousand dollars as a bribe from the Koreans! Well, that's a tall tale; a district mayor would be disdaining to take a hundred thousand dollars, but here we have the head of the USSR! Bullshit! wassat It was all a nuclear war, and the losing side rewrote history. request
          3. 0
            29 March 2026 11: 10
            Quote: AlexanderA
            The trade influence of modern Russia on world hydrocarbon prices is incomparably greater than the influence that the USSR had on world hydrocarbon prices in the 1980s.

            Okay. And that's why she sells them at a discount?
            1. -1
              29 March 2026 16: 14
              But this is how it should be and in general, you don’t understand - this is different!
            2. +1
              29 March 2026 22: 21
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Okay. And that's why she sells them at a discount?

              1. Who told you about the discount, Bloomberg?

              https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2026/03/11/rossiyskaya-neft-stala-narashvat-indiyskie-npz-skupayut-po-rekordnoy-cene

              "Russian crude—which includes a wide range of grades including Urals, ESPO, and Varandey—was offered at a premium of $2 to $8 per barrel over London's Date Brent benchmark," Bloomberg writes.

              2. That is why today Russia is not selling oil at $18 per barrel, as the USSR did in 1987.
      2. 0
        27 March 2026 14: 03
        These are all liberal fabrications. Strictly speaking, the USSR perished primarily for internal reasons. The USSR was betrayed and destroyed, quite deliberately, by part of its own elite. And these gravediggers simply shifted the blame to external forces, attributing the credit to foreign bourgeois forces.
        Regarding the spiritual defeat, yes, that's partly true. But the venom of liberal postmodernism, which played against the Soviet system, has equally destroyed and continues to destroy the West itself, destroying the very foundations that made Western civilization so powerful and dynamic. Where is the notorious "Protestant ethic," according to Max Weber? Where are those Quaker Protestants who laid the foundation for America's prosperity? They're gone; LGBT activists have taken their place. Yes, some are trying to reverse the trend, but it's not clear that they'll succeed.

        Western civilization is more like a snake devouring its own tail. Even in the West, many understand that modern capitalism has exhausted itself, that it's leading everyone to the abyss. So the concept of "USSR 2.0" is entirely justified. Enough dreaming of a golden ticket on the capitalist Titanic.
        1. +3
          27 March 2026 15: 56
          Quote: Illanatol
          All this is a fabrication of liberals.

          What exactly have liberals come up with about the USSR's defeat in the semantic and ideological "Apollo War"? I'm afraid our liberals aren't even familiar with the term "Apollo War." They themselves, incidentally, are intellectually deficient, hapless victims of that war.

          https://fil.wikireading.ru/hT8tZL5Wws

          "The Three Wars" provide different answers to the question of what should serve strategy as the art of achieving victory, expanding the space of solutions, and realizing "a world better than the pre-war one."

          The Ares War ensures strategic success through military means.

          "Athena's War" - economic.

          "The War of Apollo" - communicative, meaning-forming."
          The USSR was betrayed and destroyed, quite deliberately, by part of its own elite. And these gravediggers simply shifted the blame to external forces, attributing the credit to foreign bourgeois forces.

          If you believe this happened without any enemy involvement, you're mistaken. The USSR's own elite betrayed it precisely because, after Stalin's death, no one remained in the Soviet elite who could demonstrate the ability to resist Western efforts in the "Apollo War" unleashed against the USSR.
          As for the spiritual defeat, yes, that's partly true. But the poison of liberal postmodernism, which played against the Soviet system, has equally destroyed and continues to destroy the West itself, destroying the very foundations that made Western civilization so powerful and dynamic.

          That's another matter entirely. Western elites were very reluctant to embrace post-capitalism. In any case, they managed to put an end to Soviet systemic anti-capitalism before the "train of progress," represented by the collapse of the liberal globalization they themselves moderated, reached the Western "Atlas Shrugged."
          So the concept of "USSR 2.0" is entirely viable. Enough dreaming of a golden ticket on the capitalist Titanic.

          Given the collapse of all global projects, it's hardly worth continuing to dream of a "global" republic of Soviets. As for macroregional projects, the right to the main red banner with the hammer and sickle emblem today belongs undividedly to the Communist Party of China.
          1. -1
            28 March 2026 00: 57
            You operate with abstract and irrelevant concepts, trying to fit them onto the globe of reality... If only everything were as simple as in your formulas...
            1. 0
              28 March 2026 07: 06
              Strategy and politics are certainly abstract concepts for specific individuals. In response to my quotation from S.B. Pereslegin's book "The Sum of Strategy," you refer to... operations with an abstract owl. Perhaps you could also quote something from a book? Or are you not a reader?
          2. -1
            29 March 2026 08: 24
            1. The liberal anti-communists didn't invent this; they deliberately orchestrated the USSR's ideological and spiritual defeat. And there's no doubt they were well versed in such matters, just like the aforementioned A. Yakovlev. After the collapse of the USSR, such types even flaunted it, openly boasting of their anti-communism. Yes, there were objective preconditions for the defeat of the Soviet system. It was, according to the well-known fable, the victory of a hetaera (a whore) over Socrates.

            2. The elite, or at least a section of it, itself set a course for dismantling socialism. Because it was simply profitable. The real levers of control over the economy and everything else were in the hands of the elite. But in the Soviet system, these supposed comrades were merely managers. But they wanted to become full-fledged owners. Privatization and other "reforms" allowed them to lay their hands on "public property." Such desires had been conceived long ago, perhaps even before the death (or rather, murder) of the IVS; at that time, defeat in the Cold War wasn't even in sight. Of course, their own betrayal is best justified by the mythical superiority of the enemy. Although the West enjoyed its greatest superiority in the first post-war years, even under Stalin, victory between the US and the West somehow never materialized, and the USSR held firm. Later, the gap in power narrowed, and the USSR was increasingly inferior to the West in all spheres. In the material sphere, the USSR was quite strong, as even Academician Sakharov (himself a liberal anti-Soviet) acknowledged.

            3. Post-capitalism, post-modernism, transhumanism, eugenics (now social genetics)—all of these were created by the Western elite, the part that has placed its bets on globalism. Characteristically, this part of the elite employs quite leftist ideas in the spirit of Trotsky, Marcuse, and Gramsci. And yes, they themselves are happily destroying Western civilization for the sake of... something that could be far worse than German Nazism.

            4. Count your chickens before they hatch. It's not autumn yet, far from it. So it's too early to count your chickens.
            Sometimes even popular culture makes some pretty good predictions. Take "The Simpsons," for example. The creators of this long-running cartoon have repeatedly hit the mark with their predictions. Interestingly, they predicted something very fateful for this fall, for November. Well, we'll see.
            1. 0
              29 March 2026 23: 18
              The liberal anti-communists didn't invent this; they deliberately orchestrated the USSR's ideological and spiritual defeat. And there's no doubt they were well-versed in such matters, just like the aforementioned A. Yakovlev.

              Let me correct this slightly. Those in power in the USSR who, at the dawn of the "era of détente," decided to integrate with the West believed that since the USSR was a nuclear superpower, they would be accepted as equals among the rulers of this world. But they were deceived.

              As a result, the West outsmarted itself. After the collapse of the USSR, carried away by sweet dreams of Russia's collapse, the West "inadvertently" missed the rise of CPC-led China. Moreover, by "missing" China's rise, the West did everything to ensure that both the current Russian government and broad sections of the Russian population lost faith in their soon-to-be inclusion in the "golden billion" (as members of the upper and middle classes, respectively).

              Thus, the West managed to short-sightedly and thoughtlessly lose that obedient instrument for a proxy war with a rising China, which Russia could have become as a “member of the NATO bloc and one of the G8 countries.”
              After the collapse of the USSR, such types even flaunted this and were openly proud of their anti-communism.

              "We were aiming for communism, but we hit Russia" - do you know which undisputed intellectual is credited with this phrase?

              And then those who, due to their own short-sightedness, imagined that they would be taken into the ranks of the "powerful of this world" publicly "bragged", but they were taken into the ranks of the "useful idiots".
              Post-capitalism, post-modernism, transhumanism, eugenics (now social genetics) - all of this was created by the Western elite, the part that bet on globalism.

              Almost all the -isms of the last hundred years arose in the West. Marxism, by the way, too. For a very long time, about half a millennium, the West diligently "ran ahead of progress." "If you run in front of the locomotive, you'll die tired, but if you run after the locomotive, you'll simply run out of steam." (C)

              Today, we are witnessing a tired West that is about to be run over by the "train of progress" it has so diligently raced ahead of for so long. This is inevitable, due to the catastrophically low quality of today's Western elites.

              What about the USSR? The USSR made a more or less successful attempt at "catch-up development." "We're 50-100 years behind the advanced countries. We have to cover that distance in ten years. Either we do it, or we'll be crushed." In the end, we didn't catch up (in terms of labor productivity, for example), and we were crushed. Not crushed at the level of the "Ares War." We were crushed economically and cognitively.

              They crushed it, but didn't finish it off. They failed. The process was now led by Western elites of a completely different quality than those of the 1950s-1980s. Russia survived and retained its status as a nuclear superpower. China rose to economic superpower status and will soon acquire nuclear superpower status. The "white" population of the West is aging and declining. The West has already lost its game of simultaneous play on the "Grand Chessboard." All that remains is to sweep away the pieces, grab one of the boards, and try to hit your opponents over the head with it. But that will certainly be a civilizational catastrophe. Time will tell.
    6. +1
      28 March 2026 01: 06
      Quote: paul3390
      And to this day, there hasn't even been an apology for these outcries. What would we do now without the great Soviet legacy?

      Well, they've quietly started "apologizing"—they've returned the Stalin bas-relief to the Moscow Metro and allowed the people to erect monuments to the leader at their own expense. The people are erecting them. They say there are already nearly three dozen monuments across the country, maybe more.
      In Donetsk, a bust of Stalin was erected immediately after the Debaltseve operation in the spring of 2015. A medal with his profile was also awarded to those who participated in that operation. Because before Khrushchev renamed our city, it was called Stalino. And the region, accordingly, was called Stalinskaya.
      That's why the fascists stuck their noses into us, but didn't move us.
  4. + 11
    27 March 2026 07: 11
    If you also remember how many tanks and self-propelled guns have been scrapped over the last 35-40 years, it becomes clear that for some, immediate profit from selling scrap metal is more important than defending the Motherland.
    1. +1
      28 March 2026 17: 44
      They've stepped on a sore spot! And what about the navy? The scrap metal dealers were having a field day there. How many large-tonnage vessels (i.e., ocean-going ones) were cut up... And now there's nothing to escort the tankers with, no one to send to Cuba. The admirals kept wondering what the hell their navy was for... Now they've brightened up! It turns out they need to protect the rights of their merchant fleet on the ocean... Everyone couldn't believe they could be discredited...
      The Americans have all their post-war boats floating. They even mothballed their battleships until the situation is cleared up. I'll tell you what they'll do with them: remove the guns, install missiles, and the old hulls will float. And they won't give up on the steam boilers. One such battleship, with a displacement of 30 tons, can fire a salvo of missiles equal to our entire fleet.
  5. +7
    27 March 2026 07: 14
    It would be much better if they were converted into heavy infantry fighting vehicles. There are numerous videos of tanks from all sides being blown apart by detonations, but only a couple of videos of this happening to the Bradley, when the opponents loaded them full of ammunition for their assault groups. And according to participants in the defense of Zaporizhzhia-2023, it was the Bradleys with their rapid-fire Bushmasters that caused the most trouble, sometimes preventing them from even raising their heads above the parapets. Therefore, an assault vehicle with a module from the BTR-82A would be quite popular.
    1. +1
      27 March 2026 07: 43
      It's a tank; you can't fit more than three people in it. You're not talking about an infantry fighting vehicle (IFV), but more like the Terminator, but it didn't really catch on. When the enemy has ATGMs, an IFV, even one based on a tank, is just a target. And if there are no ATGMs, a 125mm shell will solve the same problems as a rapid-fire 30mm cannon, only it won't just keep you down; it'll wipe out the trench along with the defenders. Forget the chaos of 2023; this is a different war now. Any IFV attempting to attack the trenches will get clobbered by a drone.
      1. +8
        27 March 2026 09: 51
        The Israelis manage to fit up to 10 people in the Achzarits, which are heavy armored personnel carriers based on the T-55 and T-62 chassis. The same BMO-T, based on the T-72, also fits up to 10 people, so something like the BMO is needed for assault units.
        1. +1
          27 March 2026 15: 49
          For this purpose, the standard T 55 engine was removed and an American one with an automatic transmission (with much smaller dimensions) was installed, which made it possible to equip the troop compartment with a rear ramp.
      2. 0
        28 March 2026 02: 40
        Even a MRAP based on a bonneted Ural/Kamaz is much better than the BTR-80/82 and gives the crew a better chance of surviving.
    2. +1
      28 March 2026 01: 33
      Quote: Dmitry Eon
      It would be much better if they were reformatted into heavy infantry fighting vehicles.

      Clearly, the nature of combat operations in the Northern Military District demonstrates the need for heavy infantry fighting vehicles based on MBTs.
  6. +1
    27 March 2026 07: 15
    I would add a Du turret based on the PKTM 7,62 with digital vision from Drones.
    1. 0
      28 March 2026 02: 44
      Quote: air wolf
      I would add a Du turret based on the PKTM 7,62 with digital vision from Drones.

      There are no spare machine guns. Either a net launcher or a 4-gauge automatic shotgun with steel buckshot and a large shell casing will do. Maybe something will work out of cut-down VYA-23 shell casings.
      1. 0
        28 March 2026 06: 50
        We can develop this idea further and install a turret with a GSh-23-2 and shells with steel shot. I think the range will increase to 200 meters. I like the idea. drinks
  7. +4
    27 March 2026 07: 32
    We are witnessing a situation where UVZ is trying to find a way out of the situation associated with the depletion of available T-72B tanks for modernization. There are approximately 1,5 T-72 and T-72A tanks remaining. While UVZ can hold out through 26 and 27 on the ancient T-72As, Omsk will exhaust its remaining Soviet T-80B(BV) stock by 26. The T-72A is a modernized version of the T-72 "Ural" main battle tank. Key differences include the introduction of composite turret armor with distinctive "cheekbones," the installation of a TPD-K1 laser rangefinder and an electronic ballistic computer in place of the optical rangefinder, the addition of smoke grenade launcher pods on the turret, and a reinforced frontal hull.
    1. +2
      27 March 2026 07: 37
      Strengthening the frontal hull is practically unnecessary in modern conditions; the main thing is a new control system. Tank-on-tank combat is practically non-existent these days; the main threat is drones, so reinforcements are needed to counter them.
    2. -1
      28 March 2026 17: 55
      We'll be working on the T-60 soon. And isn't it time to bring back the T-34-85? We'll probably still be able to make them like passenger cars.
      IMHO, simplicity and affordability are key now. Armor thickness and shell caliber are less important. What's needed is armor separation and active protection against all types of weapons. And if we could come up with a drone-proof active protection system, the T-34 could easily pass for a T-72.
      Considering that a Bradley with a 30mm cannon and armor-piercing rounds can deal with our infantry fighting vehicle, an 85mm cannon with some kind of active round could also deal with a Leopard. No?
  8. 0
    27 March 2026 07: 35
    By today's standards, a tank is still a tank; the fire control system needs to be modified, and proper dynamic protection and anti-drone protection added. Both the T54/55 and T62 are suitable for missions that don't involve frontal penetration of trenches.
    1. +1
      27 March 2026 10: 39
      T 55s were in service in Zak Vo in 1989, at least.
      1. 0
        28 March 2026 01: 40
        Quote: saigon
        T 55s were in service in Zak Vo in 1989, at least.

        In Georgia, all the motorized rifles there were framed (which later became the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation after the collapse of the Soviet Union), in Armenia the situation was better, but not in terms of the serviceability of the military equipment.
  9. +2
    27 March 2026 08: 41
    Why not? What, the A-model can't fight? Its VLD is weaker and the APFSDS rounds are old—but who cares now? Tanks don't fight tanks. The engine will definitely be replaced, at least to 840 hp. The sights are modern, too.
    If the drinking's on this level, it's time to cut up the last cucumber! Thanks to the brilliant leadership that dragged out the war for so many years before it even started, there's nothing we can turn our noses at now.
    1. 0
      28 March 2026 05: 59
      Quote: Roman Efremov
      and the BOPS are old

      APFSDS are not tied to the tank, this is not WarThunder.
      Fits into the gun/AZ and does not explode the gun when fired - OK.
  10. +8
    27 March 2026 08: 49
    It turns out the "ineffective" communists were right to modernize and store obsolete equipment. Thanks to the great USSR for a legacy that even after 35 years, the wretched bourgeoisie hasn't been able to completely destroy. It's a shame that these "ineffective managers" will leave behind only scorched earth.
    1. +1
      28 March 2026 01: 58
      Quote: Vulpes
      It turns out that the "ineffective" communists were right to modernize and store outdated equipment.

      "Our song is good, start over"
      On the territory of the RSFSR, almost all troops were of the 3rd echelon (cadre divisions or BHVT), because of this, a lot of junk was left behind. Then the USSR signed an agreement with NATO on the limitation of conventional weapons in Europe, as a result of which a large number of military equipment (not just tanks) had to be transferred beyond the Urals. Then the withdrawal of the Soviet Union from Eastern Europe, the Mongolian People's Republic, and Cuba, which increased the accumulation of weapons and military equipment on the territory of the Russian Federation.
      Look online to see how many MBTs there were in the BSSR and the Ukrainian SSR in 1991. As a result of their sales of weapons and military equipment, they were among the top 10 countries for selling weapons and military equipment for a long time, producing almost nothing. The fact that in 1991 there were few T-54/55 and -62 tanks in the BSSR and the Ukrainian SSR was only because the Soviet Army's 2nd echelon troops with newer weapons and military equipment were stationed on their territory.
  11. 0
    27 March 2026 11: 42
    Quote: Graz
    It's interesting that in battle footage the tanks are not particularly visible anymore, but if even such veterans are being modernized, so somewhere they are accumulating funds to create striking fists

    So = You want...?
  12. -1
    27 March 2026 11: 50
    If the "B" tanks run out, then the "A" tanks might run out too. T-90 production apparently doesn't cover demand. It's no coincidence that the idea of ​​buying the T-72 tanks from the Indians arose.

    And what about captured tanks, if there are any, how are they used - Polish, Czech, Croatian T-72 clones.
    1. -3
      27 March 2026 12: 49
      Quote: Pavel57
      If the "B" tanks run out, then the "A" tanks might run out too. T-90 production apparently doesn't cover demand. It's no coincidence that the idea of ​​buying the T-72 tanks from the Indians arose.

      Considering that UVZ is engaged in major repairs of old tanks and has sold the T-90 production lines to the Indians, they will soon be purchasing T-72As from India.
  13. +1
    27 March 2026 13: 59
    We can't even replicate the T-72A turret from the first production runs. These tanks were equipped with a T-64 turret. UVZ couldn't replicate this technology and simplified the design of the Zhdanov Heavy Machinery Plant (ZhZTM) for the T-64. The Zhdanov turret was a two-layer casting with corundum-filled spheres to protect against HEAT projectiles. UralVagonZavod, on the other hand, used a simple monolithic turret.
  14. +2
    27 March 2026 17: 27
    The spare parts don't weigh heavily on the pocket - the Soviet tanks came in handy.
  15. +1
    27 March 2026 23: 50
    Eva, as it turns out... The Union produced tanks, but recently one narrow-minded successor to Yeltsin and admirer of the fascists Ilyin and Shmelev claimed that the USSR only produced galoshes.
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  17. 0
    28 March 2026 01: 02
    I read in the periodicals that it is impossible to bring the T-72A up to the T-72B3 standards, the turrets are different, that’s why there are a lot of the former on the BHT, they’re probably lying.
    1. +1
      28 March 2026 18: 02
      I don't think they'll be "finished." There's no point. They'll just modernize them, weld them with grates, and throw them in the firebox...
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  19. +1
    29 March 2026 16: 18
    The great state of the USSR left us a legacy that saves us.
  20. 0
    April 5 2026 17: 46
    It all depends on the modernization program. Generally speaking, if tank duels are rare and mostly used for supporting infantry with indirect fire, the T-72 is definitely better than the T-62 and T-54-55. Therefore, it's the right decision.
  21. +1
    April 5 2026 20: 12
    It's better to have it than not have it at all