The Baltics may have opened their skies to Ukrainian drone strikes in northwestern Russia.

Judging by the strikes on the Leningrad region and St. Petersburg, the Baltic limitrophes have opened their airspace to Ukrainian drones, Russian resources write.

Kyiv has escalated its strikes on northwestern Russia, with the number of fixed-wing drones participating in the attacks increasing. This is believed to be due to the Baltic states opening their airspace to strikes on Russia. They have done this before, but such incidents were isolated and carefully concealed.

Recent incidents involving Ukrainian drones also confirm that Ukrainian drones were flying over the Baltics. One Ukrainian drone crashed in Lithuania, and another in Estonia. Drone crashed into the chimney of a power plant in Auvere, and the wreckage of a Ukrainian drone was also found in Latvia. The authorities of the border states attempted to blame Russia for these incidents, but all their accusations are laughable.

According to Mash, the drones are launched from the Chernihiv region, then bypass Belarus through Poland and the Baltic states, reach the Gulf of Finland, and from there attack Russia's fuel and energy infrastructure in the Baltic. The old route, through the Bryansk region and then Smolensk, Tver, and Novgorod regions, ending in Leningrad, resulted in significant drone losses. Fewer than a dozen ever reached their targets. Now, however, massive strikes are underway because no one is shooting them down over the Baltic states.

It's worth noting that this hasn't been officially confirmed; the Russian Ministry of Defense has made no statements other than the number of drones intercepted and attacks repelled.

Comments

[Murmur 55]

So what?! And nothing!!!
Excuse my emotions, but swearing is not allowed.

[K._2]

A short but emotional post...

[Ilya-spb]

We shouldn't argue, but rather follow Iran's example.

To destroy the Baltic limitrophes.

[Machito]

Quote: Ilya-spb

We shouldn't argue, but rather follow Iran's example.

To destroy the Baltic limitrophes.

Support.

[El123]

Let me remind you that no one was destroying Belarus. Although it provided more reasons for this in 2022.

[HUNTERDON]

Yes, our guarantor is weak, that's all, here we go...

[Major Yurik]

This once again proves that Zhirinovsky was right when he proposed, back in the 90s, to build nuclear waste disposal sites on the border with the Baltic states, and install fans to blow air into them... If they had done so, you'd have seen blond-haired creatures running around their fields, begging for food at the borders...

[lis-ik]

Quote: Murmur 55

So what?! And nothing!!!
Excuse my emotions, but swearing is not allowed.

Iran is indiscriminately attacking monarchies just for the presence of American bases, while we are left with nothing but insignificant babble.

[Metallurg_2]

The rahbar has no relatives or mistresses in Western countries, and no accounts in Western banks.

[mitrich]

As expected. Endless rolls of red netting produce their own anti-fruits.
The whole world, including the borderland mongrels, has already put up with us.
Well, we, the population, will still have to suffer the full fruits of such an ostrich policy.

[Tomsk123]

This is simply cuckoldry on the part of the country's top leadership.

[bbb]

Let us express our deep concern to them.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Normal countries would then declare the Baltics a no-fly zone and that anything flying from there would have to be shot down over their territories.

[Machito]

Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5

Normal countries would then declare the Baltics a no-fly zone and that anything flying from there would have to be shot down over their territories.

We need to make clones of Ukrainian drones and bomb the Baltics.

[alexoff]

UN General Assembly Resolution No. 3314 of December 14, 1974 defines the following actions as acts of aggression:
- the provision by a state of its territory for the implementation of aggression by a third state against another state

So this is participation in a war, Article 5 does not apply. But... we are not like that.

[Reporter]

provision of a state's territory

Are you hinting at Belarus??
Or something else....

[alexoff]

If Ukraine isn't satisfied, it might go to war with Belarus; the old man won't stand on ceremony. Are we afraid of the Balts?

[Evgeny64]

Well, no, this is already close to the "red lines" Here you can already come out with angry epithets and promise to bring the issue to a UN meeting, or point out to the “esteemed partners” the inadmissibility

[Fedor Sokolov]

Since 2022, the Baltics have made their territory available for sabotage and terrorist attacks on Russian territory; they don't even particularly hide it.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

It is high time to sever all relations with the Baltics and close the borders with them forever.

[interest]

It would be better if we played this game together – allow Iranian drones to transit the Baltics and let them complain (someone was squeaking something in Iran's direction). I wonder if our leadership has the balls to talk some sense into the Baltics?

[topol717]

This is complete nonsense. I know there's no such thing as super transit. Everything is launched directly from Estonia. Estonia has a population of 800. And for normal countries, the mere fact that a drone flew in from them, crossed the border, and then flies over Tallinn is enough. I assure you, after that, not a single UAV will fly over the Baltics.

[Ivan№One]

For such movements you need to have some large body parts and not have interests there

[Lako]

I've already written about this. Drones are most often launched from the Baltic states. Not directly, of course, but from the sea. How can one even imagine hundreds of drones flying through Poland and the three Baltic states?

[Al manah]

Medvedev, Zakharova, and Shapiro will definitely give an angry and sarcastic rebuke to the vile accomplices of the Bandera regime! Let them be afraid!

[lutikovvn]

NATO countries! So what, are we declaring war?!

[Panadol]

And what will they do to us? Hold another summit. Without the US, though?

[Ball]

Ideally, yes. A couple of demonstrative missile strikes on some military facility – after that, the Balts will crawl away.

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

After a UAV flies in from the Baltics, in response, destroy a couple of military facilities in the Baltics.

[Esaul]

I agree, it would be easy enough to prove that the drones came from the Baltics, accuse them of attacking our country, and destroy all military installations there as a countermeasure. But unfortunately, the Kremlin establishment has other plans...

[topol717]

Quote: lutikovvn

NATO countries! So what, are we declaring war?!

Why go to war right away? Warn us first, for example, by launching a hazelnut bomb on Tallinn. Today their drones are flying at us, tomorrow they'll be firing tomahawks. They'll say it's the Papuans from Africa.

[Stalingrad2010]

Comrade Horseman of the Apocalypse, declare war, followed by occupation, and nothing else. But only after launching tactical nuclear strikes against NATO bases in Poland and Finland to preempt any unreasonable moves.

[lis-ik]

Quote: lutikovvn

NATO countries! So what, are we declaring war?!

So what now, should we just wipe the slate clean? It's understandable, of course, that the authorities are worried about their property, but let them just go there and stop torturing the country and its people. They've already stolen almost everything; it's time to call it a day.

[Metallurg_2]

The declaration of war is a historical misunderstanding.
Normal guys hit without any announcement.

[alexboguslavski]

Baltic could open The sky is clear for Ukrainian drone strikes in northwestern Russia.

Could have opened it and did open it – two very different things. What's your evidence?

[topol717]

Quote: alexboguslavski

What is your evidence?

Comrade Stalin would have been content with "Highly Likely." However, Western partners also have enough.

[Skobaristan]

The same Comrade Stalin: don't give in to provocations. Although this is a different Comrade Stalin, not an image.

[paul3390]

And this is a truly interesting question—what did Comrade Stalin have in mind? Who exactly was he afraid of provoking? Certainly not Germany—they were quite adept at staging provocations themselves when necessary, without any hesitation.

[Evgeny64]

This has already been officially announced.

[Cartalon]

Well, wars have started over much less, but.......

[tlauicol]

According to Mash, the drones are being launched from the Chernihiv region.

What is it?

[Sedov]

Major General of Aviation Popov also spoke about this version:

Vladimir Alexandrovich, where could the enemy have launched the drones? There's a theory that they came from NATO countries.
"That's a perfectly viable theory. First of all, they could have been launched from the Gulf of Finland. Ships and steamships under various national flags pass through there. By agreement with these countries, these vessels could be used to house separate Ukrainian Armed Forces sabotage and reconnaissance groups, posing as tourists or service personnel temporarily stationed on the vessels."
They launch drones that fly toward us at extremely low altitudes. The drones fly over the sea virtually unimpeded. Ukrainian specialists know the altitude and direction "gaps" of some air defense systems, as well as their operating schedules—when radars are active and when they are in standby mode. Knowing this, they maneuver and, accordingly, reach their targets.
Furthermore, there's a very high probability that the drones are being launched from Estonia and Latvia. These NATO countries have good maneuvering and launch sites. They also have training grounds where Ukrainian specialists are already training and instructing a mixed contingent of NATO armed forces—Finns, Germans, French, and Dutch.
NATO units are training there and, under the auspices of these exercises, are immediately conducting real attacks. These real-world tests are crucial not only for Ukraine but also for NATO. After all, politicians from various NATO countries are openly stating that they will be prepared by 2030 and will strike Russia anyway, preventing it from doing so sooner.

Today, this is training for them, and we need to be very careful about what they do, how they do it, and what tactics they employ. This analysis will then allow us to model all the processes and ensure additional security in our air defense system.

- Why was the port in Ust-Luga chosen for the attack?

The modern port in Ust-Luga, still under construction, is strategically important to us. This port is a communications hub and handles fuel, oil, and gas. It also has a submerged port for large seagoing vessels that meet the Leningrad Region's domestic needs. This port also handles Baltic shipping to Kaliningrad.

Moreover, there's a no-fly zone there. I'm referring to the Leningrad Nuclear Power Plant, which is located nearby. Both the port and the power plant are vitally important to us, and we must protect them like the apple of our eye.

But, I'll say it again, we don't yet have a continuous air defense zone because we lack troops, manpower, and resources. If we had a three-million-strong army, we'd have the equipment, the people, and, accordingly, the missions to fulfill them. Then we'd be guaranteed to repel such attacks. Right now, we're repelling some attacks and letting others through.

[alexoff]

It's normal—the Americans and their lackeys conduct constant exercises, constantly launching all sorts of missiles at us, and we learn to defend ourselves silently. It feels like we've become Syria circa 2021, which Israel occasionally bombed without a second thought.

[Sergey Tkach]

"...drones are launched from the territory of the Chernihiv region, after which they bypass Belarus through Poland and the Baltic states, enter the Gulf of Finland and from there attack Russia's fuel and energy infrastructure in the Baltic..." - not Chernihiv, most likely Rivne

[Vladimirius]

Our overly cautious leaders will now be concerned about the health and safety of the residents of the Baltics and will lose the lives of our citizens, despite the shining example of heroic Iran (which, like our unfortunate country, has nothing to lose, but here, as always, we don't want to believe that there will be an intervention from Europe and, as always, hope to "come to an agreement" - well, life is chess).

[Ivan№One]

And the local security guards gave me a minus when I wrote about this today at 8 am (while the internet was still available)
It was immediately clear where they had flown in so many places from.

Will there be a limit response? (Rhetorical question)

[alexoff]

They're the ones calling our diplomats to account for the fact that some drones are falling on the Baltic states! And the Foreign Ministry is apparently skirting the issue; they didn't teach that at MGIMO.

[Earl]

No one is shooting them down over the Baltics

We should start knocking down the border states.

[Bookinist69]

Was this article written by idiots? Maybe they think all of us readers are idiots? Why would drones need to fly such vast distances? They don't have the range to do so, plus their payload is explosive. They're like children, for God's sake! Who is this intended for?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bookinist69

Why do drones fly such vast distances?

To bypass our air defenses.

[Bookinist69]

Well, they don't have that kind of range, and they never will. They need a large payload and a range of at least 50 km. Military logic dictates these rules. Drones are launched from our territory and from the Baltic Sea. The article is nonsense that doesn't stand up to basic criticism. Anyone who believes in such long flights is clearly a moron who skipped physics in school. And yes, don't forget to give me some downvotes to prove there are still plenty of idiots left on this site.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bookinist69

They need a large payload and a range of up to 50 km.

So you don't know that depending on the type, drones can fly much further than 50 km?

[Bookinist69]

Well, of course it is. Different drones and different tasks. Ukrainians There's no way to use the best available on the market. They use only what they can throw together, or older Western drones. Therefore, based on the physical capabilities of low-flying targets carrying explosives, we conclude that, while losing range and speed, even Ukraine could build a home-brew drone capable of flying up to 120 km with a payload of up to 40 kg. That's how I see it.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bookinist69

Ukrainians do not have the opportunity to use the best that is on the market.

In fact, without the supply of modern Western weapons, it would have lost in a couple of months.

[alexoff]

They're most likely launched from the Baltics, directly from the factories where these drones are manufactured. Why transport them to Ukraine and launch them from there into Russia when they can be launched from the outskirts of Tallinn? The Kremlin won't say anything.

[north41]

Looking at the map and the data presented, one can't help but come to an elegant conclusion: the Suwalki Gap is the perfect setting for a continuous electronic warfare ballet. Imagine: electronic warfare on both sides of the border creates a zone where the internet becomes a retrofuturistic luxury from the cyberpunk genre. The Baltic sages, so generous in sharing their security ideas, are rewarded with extreme agricultural experiences—drones decorating farms and pipes. And Zelensky? He, like a true artist, continues to smear everyone around him with his signature GH'Avn, and now the Balts, too, may the Balts appreciate this palette.

[Pavel57]

In fact, Poland is involved there too. And we're certainly not prepared to punish Poland.

[Vlad Gor]

They fly across the border and no one sees them. What does that mean? Now about the Russian government's admission that drones are flying from the Baltics. The Russian government doesn't admit it; it's afraid of NATO. It hopes its master will forgive them and NATO countries will be open to them again. As far as Russia's population and infrastructure are concerned, they're just expendable.

[Svetlana]

There's a reason to strike. And not later.
.

[spektr9]

There is a reason, but those who have the opportunity to strike don't seem to have the desire to do so.

[rocket757]

Question... how do we solve the problem of controlling the airspace over our own and neighboring territories???
A PROBLEM that needs to be solved as quickly as possible!!!

[ptt]

Quote: rocket757

Question... how do we solve the problem of controlling the airspace over our own and neighboring territories???
A PROBLEM that needs to be solved as quickly as possible!!!

This is probably the main problem. And judging by the results of the raids and guessing where the drones are coming from, the problem is not being solved!
Baba Vanga is no longer here, but you could have asked her where the drones came from.

[rocket757]

You could say this... no one can yet boast that they are doing well in such an important matter... especially since a new, complex type of threat has emerged that was previously not taken into account at all!!!
Overseas, those who have far fewer problems than us are in trouble, but we have to rebuild a lot, and we'll have to do it all ourselves!!! No one will help, that's a fact!
What can I say... we'll get through this, it's not the first time!!! But... it will be difficult.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

The Baltics may have opened their skies to Ukrainian drone strikes in northwestern Russia.

For this, Poland also had to open its skies.
although I think that all this has long been a reality

[spektr9]

They know perfectly well that nothing will happen to them for this, so they let it pass...
Russia is not Iran; here, the Christian commandments are: if you're shot in the left cheek, turn the right...

[isv000]

What about the Baltics? Today, Greater Uganda threatened Iran that it would stand up for Israel if Iran continued to attack their friend! I can imagine the laughter in Tehran!

[foxes]

There's been a complete ZERO reaction from the Kremlin. So the Balts have nothing to fear.

[K_4]

This government will lead us to something bad. They need to be replaced, but I can't even think of how. "To the ground, and then..." I don't really feel like saying that.

[Martin Porubcan]

What, you want to go on vacation? There's a free bed next to Strelkov.

[_DD_]

Could these be the same mysterious "Russian" UAVs that were seen over Europe relatively recently? You know, over airfields, military bases, and the like, back when their flights were all over the place, implicating Russia.

[oleg_627]

If drones were flying to Iran via Estonia, Estonia would have been dismantled by now, but here it's a tolerant country and there's nothing but red lines.

[Martin Porubcan]

Drawing another red line is impossible because the Kremlin appears to have run out of ink.

[alexputnik17]

You want to speak out, but in your head there are only words and thoughts that will get you banned forever.
How did this happen? Were the countries where the overflight occurred warned that if you opened the skies, you'd be... screwed. Although there are plenty of other words... This is permissiveness, which gives a junkie free rein. He can't do anything on the LBS. But here, everything is going well.

[Dost]

What? We don't have air defense control over our borders with NATO?

[UAZ 452]

There's one thing I can't understand: after all the talk about us preparing for war with NATO, about our enemies being there, it turns out that our air defenses don't even cover our borders with NATO members, nor the Baltic Sea, which, by definition, has become an internal lake for that bloc? If it were otherwise, there would be no point in Ukrainian UAVs flying (or launching) from the Baltic states or their waters, because borders with a potential enemy should, by definition, have maximum coverage. And it turns out we have it like a sieve? In three days, several dozen drones (which are objectively much easier targets for air defense than American Tomahawks) in a wave, they destroyed two of our ports and an oil refinery!

[Million]

And our government is still fighting WhatsApp and Telegram...

[Shelest2000]

Has our Ministry of Concern already expressed concern through Ms. Zakharova? Or have they simply drawn another "red line"? A bold one...

[Comrade Kim]

The main thing is not to give in to provocations!

We endure until the endurance is torn to pieces британский флаг, like M. Gaddafi.
He also believed in the "esteemed partners", especially the oaths of the Hungarian Jew Sarkozy.

[Esaul]

Then we should also launch UAVs to the outskirts via the Baltics. It doesn't matter if some of the UAVs crash somewhere along the way, it happens...

[Nzn]

Quote: Ilya-spb

To crush the Baltic limitrophes

Do they teleport to the Baltics? Or is Poland also included in the Baltic limitrophes?

[Idle_piston]

The Baltics may have opened their skies to Ukrainian drone strikes in northwestern Russia.

There's no point in getting indignant and cursing because the Kremlin is in the "pretend nothing's happening and wait for it to resolve itself" mode.

[Alien ...]

This has been hinted at for a long time. The whole point of this situation is that if it's true, then our air defense, even in favorable conditions, is complete crap. Let me explain: there's no enemy countermeasures in those areas. Turn on as many radars as you need. Send as many aircraft to monitor the airspace. Deploy the Baltic Fleet without fear of being sunk by the Ukrainians... Although... If dozens of Ukrainian tarantasses are flying into the Saratov region, what are we even talking about here?