American Admiral: I consider the US landing operation in Iran extremely dangerous

American media outlets are reporting that Middle Eastern intelligence is warning the US against conducting an amphibious operation on islands in the Persian Gulf. As a reminder, amid the deployment of Marines and soldiers from the elite 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East, Kharg Island in the Persian Gulf and Qeshm Island in the Strait of Hormuz are being discussed as potential landing sites for American troops.

Former NATO Commander Europe James Stavridis stated that he considers the amphibious operation extremely dangerous. According to the American admiral, Iran is clearly preparing for such an operation and has therefore "already set numerous traps" on Kharg Island.

James Stavridis:

The Iranians have deployed additional forces there. And they have done everything to prepare for the destruction of American soldiers on this island.

Military experts in Israel also say that Iran has prepared the islands in the Persian Gulf (Strait of Hormuz) for defense.

Nevertheless, two American amphibious ships, the USS Tripoli and the USS New Orleans, carrying approximately 2200 Marines, will arrive in the Middle East tomorrow. Approximately 1000 paratroopers from the US Army's 82nd Division are also being deployed to the region. Several hundred more American special forces are stationed in Iraq, where American-Israeli proxies are also being trained and armed. Therefore, it cannot be ruled out that Washington is planning, amid new waves of missile and air strikes, to attempt to break into Iranian territory in several areas, including to disorient the IRGC and the Iranian armed forces.

It cannot be ruled out that, with the help of Israeli special forces, private military companies, and agents operating in Iran, the Americans will attempt to seize key power structures in Tehran in order to destroy the country's centralized control system.

Comments

[snow mountain]

I wonder if the Iranians mined the coastal waters around this island? It wouldn't be a bad idea to create minefields on the island itself, either.

[RUSICH]

Quote: Schneeberg

I wonder if the Iranians mined the coastal waters around this island? It wouldn't be a bad idea to create minefields on the island itself, either.

I think everything there has long been mined and targeted.
It is obvious that the Iranians were preparing for this war.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

My opinion is that the ships will be attacked at anchor.
Overall, this operation is criminally stupid. We were also planning a landing in Odessa, but it's good that we didn't stick our noses in and kill people senselessly.

[ZovSailor]

snow mountain
Today, 07: 01
I wonder if the Iranians mined the coastal waters around this island? It wouldn't be a bad idea to create minefields on the island itself, either.

Before the two troughs with marines arrived, they would have been met with friendly fire, like soaked and run-down AVIKs.

[bayard]

Quote: ZovSailor

Before the two troughs with marines arrived, they should have been met with friendly fire.

Don't give the Houthis any tips, or they'll give the marines a hard time in the Red Sea and the landing won't happen. And then the war will be wrapped up. A good war is demonstrative, instructive, and educational. To achieve lasting results, it should last at least until autumn. Maybe even longer. So that NATO gets involved, even if it's against its will. At least with fleets and air forces. So that China gets properly involved in this process. Maybe secretly, with supplies and satellite support, but properly. And when everyone gets a feel for what real war is and its consequences (and not only everyone will), when their arsenals are emptied and their economies are exhausted... and if they don't reach the nuclear stage... then maybe some kind of New World architecture can be born.
In the meantime, the US must fight, because it is firmly hooked on Netanyahu’s string.
And Israel must now fully understand the cost of its astonishing leader's policies. For as their tzaddikim say: "There are still 224 years until the coming of the Messiah, where are they going??"... And now it will be like under that madman Bar Kochba, who finally brought the Jews to the brink of disaster in ancient times.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Schneeberg

I wonder if the Iranians mined the coastal waters around this island? It wouldn't be a bad idea to create minefields on the island itself, either.

The Iranians said this mattress island would become a massive mass grave and they would do anything, including destroying the island's entire infrastructure along with the Americans. If Trump thinks the Persians will hesitate to destroy their oil industry, he's sorely mistaken.

[Mikhail Ivanov]

The red-haired liar should have been sent to this island in the first place. True, he'd never agree to that...

[SEVERIN]

The Iranian islands will become a trap for the Americans. Trump knows this and is angry at Iran, but he does not want to leave the Iranian war - for him, it would be a military and political defeat.

[alexputnik17]

And they did everything to prepare for the destruction of American soldiers on this island.

I already wrote an opinion on this issue, but I got downvoted for some reason. I believe that even if a miracle happens and the Iranians surrender the island, they'll simply burn it down along with the Americans, without clinging to their infrastructure. Without any assault.

[Aken]

This doesn't fit into Western society's understanding. Therefore, this option is not being seriously considered.

[Bayun]

It's true since the time of the confrontation between the Atlanteans and the Hyperboreans... The former prefer to fight "smartly", and the latter - from the heartUmiShche puts convenience above all else, and that's why he loses.

[Victor B]

It's quite possible that hand-to-hand combat will be the moment of truth. Hundreds of dead Americans will bring some to their senses.

[Mouse]

Beware of traps, shameful wolves...

[alexboguslavski]

A ground operation by American troops in Iran is planned and could begin soon. The Wall Street Journal .

[Vasily))]

We need to cover the landing ships with anti-ship missiles as they approach. The landing force is still bunched up. Try to get them all bunched up later. And we'll need to plant mines if they're faster than the Persians. I think our forces are tracking them via satellite reconnaissance. And they're sharing the intelligence with Iran.

[turembo]

Frankly, for anything serious, a group of 5000 people seems too small to me.

[novel66]

Well, they're elite—one is worth ten. Or twenty... Really cool. Bullets just fly past them.

[Normann]

Well, if it's against the Papuans, then yes, but against a more serious opponent - we'll see.

[commbatant]

Quote: Normann

Well, if it's against the Papuans, then yes, but against a more serious opponent - we'll see.

And the last time a "more serious" enemy fought against a regular army was almost 40 years ago...

[Kotofeich]

Quote: novel xnumx

Bullets fly right past them.

No, the bullets can't catch up with them. They run very fast.

[novel66]

This is good, because running is the basis of physical culture.

[Machito]

Quote from turembo

Frankly, for anything serious, a group of 5000 people seems too small to me.

The experience of the Central Military District shows that even 200 is not enough. Very little. For a ground operation, the US needs at least a million soldiers.

[Alexey Sommer]

Quote: Bearded

The US needs at least a million soldiers for a ground operation.

A million is just a starting point. Considering the size of the Iranian army and the IRGC, the country's population, and the country's land area, IMHO, of 3 million, even the US couldn't handle such a force for a 21st-century war.

[novel66]

And... It's better to have people from other countries. Our own are good even in the rear.

[Micha1981]

The US doesn't have that many soldiers.

[cat Crush]

Of course, 5000 is nothing. How about 50,000 at a time, and burn them all on this island? Ah, the dreams... the dreams...

[paul3390]

Even these—it's completely unclear how to supply them... Plus, what should this landing force look like? The ships will approach the coast and begin a classic landing with standard boats and helicopters, and then parachute in the 82nd Division? That's not even funny...

[novel66]

If there are standard teleporters on landing ships, this is not a problem.

[Bayun]

"Anyone could shoot without missing.
He wielded a knife jokingly.
To beat two with ten
They thought it was good."

[glock-17]

No one is going to stage a second Tarawa and send the Marines to certain death. Initially, air power and missiles will blow everything to smithereens, and the Marines will finish the job. Besides, Trump wouldn't benefit from such a scenario, especially given rising oil prices.

[Victor B]

At first, aviation and missiles will blow everything to smithereens

So, on Tarau, the battleships Maryland and Colorado pounded enemy fortifications with their main guns, then bombed them from the air. But Betio Island (less than 4 kilometers long and 700 meters wide) contained 500 pillboxes and bunkers. Therefore, they were unable to raze everything to smithereens.
The Iranians, I hope, have dug deep.

[Micha1981]

It depends on which island they will take.

[paul3390]

With the current range of anti-ship missiles and UAVs, they won't destroy everything to such depth. But just a couple of missiles fired at the side of a amphibious assault ship, and you can forget about landing troops...

[Pankrat25]

War is a dangerous thing in general...

[Alexey Sommer]

The enemy is strong and cunning. There's no time to relax. And it's too early to throw in the towel. The Iranians have a tough, intense battle ahead.
I wish our Iranian brothers in arms good luck in battle.

[olboop]

It's interesting how many "former" people suddenly change their worldview from rabidly militant or reactionary to more or less adequate.

[Inj Meh]

I think the fuss about landing on the islands is a diversionary tactic.

They will land in a different place.

Like my time near Sevastopol during the Crimean War

[alexputnik17]

Quote: VictorB

It's quite possible that hand-to-hand combat will be the moment of truth. Hundreds of dead Americans will bring some to their senses.

I was downvoted on this topic too. Iran has 610 troops, with the potential to mobilize up to 1,4 million, plus I think they have plenty of volunteers as well. The Americans from the 82nd Airborne loaded 1000 men onto planes, plus a ship somewhere that's been sailing for two weeks—2300 men. Even if the Americans are all great aces, I have a hard time imagining an assault on the island and the coastal strip.

[alexputnik17]

Quote: Eng Mech

They will land in a different place.
Like my time near Sevastopol during the Crimean War

The main thing is that the Iranians use them to replicate Balaklava. When the British elite, our blue bloods and white bones, were simply shot to death with cannons, and then chopped up into salad by cavalry. The British then had a long-standing problem of who to elect and promote to power.

[nepunamemuk]

The British then had a long-standing problem of who to elect and promote to power.

After the War of the Roses there was a similar problem
we decided to simply
They started selling noble titles 😅

[APASUS]

Now the US will withdraw a couple of regiments from Ukraine, but they don't feel sorry for the Ukrainians.

[Roman Efremov]

The landing ships will have to come closer anyway - a great opportunity to test our Bastion.

[Vovavvs]

It reminds me of the escalation in Indochina... The result for the Americans will be the same.

[alexputnik17]

Quote from Aken

This doesn't fit into the Western paradigm. Therefore, this option is not being seriously considered.

Then we'll see. Where are they going? Meanwhile, Trump is once again raving and lying that Iran wants to negotiate, but is afraid to say so publicly, afraid they'll all be killed. Maybe Trump has already surpassed Biden in Alzheimer's and criticism?

[snow mountain]

Quote: Normann

Well, if it's against the Papuans, then yes.

The Papuans now also all have drones.

[Terenin]

James Stavridis said he considered the landing operation extremely dangerous.

What's the problem? Lose the operation on maps and mock-ups and, in Trump style, declare a resounding victory.

[Feodor13]

I agree with the forum members that this most likely isn't about Kharg Island. It's too deep in the Gulf to escape.

However, Hollywood is certainly already rubbing its hands with glee: a similar plot in 2002 earned Black Hawk Down two Oscars and a host of other perks. And the film had a profit margin close to 100%.

[Yura]

Quote: Rusich

I think everything there has long been mined and targeted.
It is obvious that the Iranians were preparing for this war.

That's exactly it, so it's entirely possible to assume the Americans could strike where they're least expected, meaning they could very well begin by clearing out the Houthis. In that case, Israel would immediately join in, which would be a very welcome option. These were just thoughts.

[gribanov.c]

There is no war without losses. Even if Trump's forces lose one division and several ships, they will still land troops, and they will be able to gain footholds on the shore in two or three places. The main thing is to complete the task at any cost. This is the principle of the paratroopers.
Iran's mission will be to isolate these beachheads, cut off their seaborne supply lines, and force the landing force into the sea. During the Normandy landings, the Germans failed to do this because they lacked air superiority; their reserves were destroyed by air strikes as they approached. They then began moving reserves at night, but that didn't help either, so that's something to consider. And they were expecting the landing in Pas-de-Calais.

[sgr291158]

Iran is presumably ready to welcome its distinguished guests. So the admiral's nervousness is no wonder.

[Got it]

Iran is certainly ready to receive an American landing. But what happens if, say, 3000 people are killed? What options will Epstein's coalition have? I think they won't waste any more time and waste any more; they'll use the T-50 or even the S-50 to settle the matter once and for all. For them, the end justifies the means. Their approach is completely different and unfamiliar to us; no one there is planning to fight for five years or suffer losses. A peace treaty? After everything the Americans did to the Jews? The conditions are mutually exclusive for everyone. There are no options, only an uncompromising victory and minimal costs, which means nuclear weapons are perfectly acceptable, especially since the Overton window is already slightly open, and what was once considered impossible is now considered entirely acceptable.

[alexputnik17]

Quote from: nepunamemuk

After the War of the Roses there was a similar problem

The phrase "cannon fodder" has been around since Henry I. The Russians repeated it. And yes, go ahead and throw slippers at me, but I don't think our side lost the Crimean War. There were several epicenters, including with the Franks and the British, where they got their asses kicked, and very well. And our side didn't surrender Sevastopol, only part of it. And then, in particular, there was a diplomatic exchange of territories. And when the peasants say Odessa and Izmail were ours, no, it was an exchange of Russian Empire territory for southern Turkey. The Ukrainians, of course, were finishing digging the Black Sea at that time. When it was being built on, that was victory, in my opinion.

[Vladimirius]

The fact that the American doubts doesn't mean anything, rather, it confirms it, but the mined strait raises serious doubts - however, time will tell, there's not much time left to wait