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It is necessary and dead, it is necessary and alive

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So the sounds of holiday marches sounded, salutes died down across the country in honor of the Victory Day celebrations, and words of congratulations were spoken ... And I would like to return to those few days when many beautiful, sincere and cordial words were spoken in a fit of gratitude to the veterans. But even more I would like to return to a number of comments that were heard during these several days of May at various Internet forums, including the VO forum.


It is necessary and dead, it is necessary and alive


What kind of comments I say, colleagues? Those in which many reminded us all that the memory of the heroism of our fighting "old men" in the years of the Great Patriotic War should not be limited to laudatory speeches and the distribution of carnations during these long May days, although this is very necessary. I will cite some of them, although believe me, there were very, very many comments with similar content, which is encouraging.

Egoza
Quote: pinecone
Mention General Karbysheva next to all this bastard should not be.
I fully support! And I want to ask. Maybe you can make a letter about the indignation of such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO website? I'm sure everyone will subscribe, and send this letter to all the newspapers. (In court, probably not) Well, at least in the media! As for Urgant, who also “blurted out” how much noise there was. So here it is necessary, because it is exactly KOSHUNSTVO! And make these forks publicly apologize.

Tverichanka
Maybe you can make a letter about the indignation of such blasphemy on behalf of the entire VO website? I'm sure everyone will subscribe, and send it.
Yesterday, on the 9 branch in May, I made such an initiative — collect a hundred thousand signatures on our website and send them to the Duma to pass the law on protecting the memory of WWII. Because the law on protecting the feelings of believers was passed, why not adopt such a law .


Very noteworthy and truly sincere, heartfelt, thoughts and sentences that have received concrete outlines. I remember the hot discussions on the site of some feature films, whose artistic images ambiguously interpreted the events and deeds of those ruthless military years. We all remember how the initiative, which was born in the Internet community, to ban the broadcast of the film on NTV, where many Soviet soldiers were presented as a herd of malicious, unprincipled and anarchic-minded rapists, received the broadest support and forced the NTV leadership to cancel this provocative show. And this is great! After all, this is a confirmation that the popular initiative can be heard at the highest levels of power, supported and embodied in reality. It’s hard for us to judge how this whole mechanism of banning the showing of this film (and we don’t need it especially) unwound, the fact itself is important, confirming that if you want, with broad support, you can solve the most resonant issues and seek understanding with the authorities and with the people clothed with this power. It is important that these initiatives find the widest response in the hearts and minds of as many people as possible. And it is equally important that these are constructive proposals aimed at improving the quality of our lives, not only materially, but also (even more!) In the spiritual. Let's leave the debate about what is being done for veterans and whether it is enough for another conversation. Fortunately, topics on this issue are tossed with enviable regularity. I write this detailed comment firstly - fulfilling the request of Nina (Tverichanka), which simply needs to be supported with her proposal, and secondly, through this initiative to encourage the site administration to repeat the already tested method of conveying people's opinions to our authorities and lawmakers. Moreover, Tverichanka gave an excellent, almost exhaustive, guideline to which the legislators' efforts in this matter should be directed: to adopt a law to protect the memory of the Second World War.

If this proposal is not new, and we simply do not know about its embodied presence in our laws - this is one question. I think there will be a person among us who will tell us where and what is said in this law. If there is no such law in any paragraph, not a single law, then I think it would be quite appropriate to ask this question to the authorities and make joint efforts for the appearance of such a law.

I think this is very important in order to prevent provocative statements and handicrafts from appearing in our media and in general in our lives. Precedents in the world - is. After all, there is a law on the Holocaust! There is even a measure of responsibility for denying the Holocaust itself, as a phenomenon! Yes, and the Baltic statutory parrots introduced into law enforcement practice the responsibility for denying the Soviet occupation! What prevents us in such a good deed, as the protection of the honest name of those who fell in WWII, to put into practice the punishment for sneering at the memory of the defenders of our country from fascism? NOTHING! This is a tribute to the imperishable memory of the Victory in the most monstrous of the wars that have passed through the planet. This will be one of our efforts to cultivate a spiritually healthy generation of our followers and descendants, whose faces I saw on the fireworks on Victory Day. These faces were illuminated not only by the lights of the salute, but also by the light of admiration and pride coming from the depths of the young hearts ...
Sincerely, Esaul.
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  1. taseka
    taseka 16 May 2013 06: 11 New
    13
    "to pass a law on the protection of the memory of the Second World War." - I with two hands - FOR!
    1. hommer
      hommer 16 May 2013 08: 52 New
      +5
      Quote: taseka
      "to pass a law on the protection of the memory of the Second World War." - I am with both hands - FOR!


      Support!

      What can I tell the blind grandfather
      This dense day-day?
      Steal, steal our victory
      With an evil thieves grin.
      They steal a sleeve and a big eye,
      While stealing is enough strength
      With all my black caste
      And a dark pack of money.
      Actively stealing, not tired,
      Losing conscience and peace
      With the stupid zeal of vandals
      The defiling human race.
      Steal without fear, without pretext,
      Without announcing trouble
      Insistently, eagerly and a lot,
      With the atrocities of the barbarian horde.
      Steal a great victory
      Feeling no guilt
      At our Motherland, at the grandfather,
      Not seeing from that war.
      They steal shamelessly and venally,
      Crossing all the lines
      Steal, not even noticing
      His innocent blindness ...
      Him whose nerves are not of steel,
      Him whose eyes are blown off by a hundred,
      How can I say why they stole it?
      How to explain why steal?

      And this law is very necessary to restrain this thief!
    2. Stiletto
      Stiletto 16 May 2013 09: 09 New
      +2
      Well done, countrywoman! I support!
  2. Vanek
    Vanek 16 May 2013 06: 24 New
    +3
    "to pass a law on the protection of the memory of the Second World War."

    Quote: taseka
    - I'm with two hands - FOR!


    Oh sorry two hands in all - I AM FOR!

    Hello to everyone. hi
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 16 May 2013 06: 39 New
      +4
      The law will not be adopted by lawmakers. They take them in batches. A mechanism is needed for this law to work. Simple but reliable. Otherwise, it will remain a piece of paper filed in a folder with a bureaucrat of an official who absolutely does not want to work for the benefit of someone other than his own.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 16 May 2013 08: 45 New
        +1
        The corrupt vertical of power may pass a law, but it will not work, like all other laws in our country.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 16 May 2013 13: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Vanek
      "to pass a law on the protection of the memory of the Second World War."
      Quote: taseka
      - I'm with two hands - FOR!

      Oh sorry two hands in all - I AM FOR!
      Hello to everyone. hi


      Yes, especially and you do not need to take anything. It is enough to link all kinds of distortions of the results of the great Patriotic war with treason.

      For example, the Americans, the whole state is built on the results of the civil war, which is not an example, we can fix some of the results as the basis of the state, such as the right of a winner in the war, the defensive military doctrine of the state ... you can add something else ...
  3. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 16 May 2013 06: 39 New
    +6
    The article is unambiguous +.
    And in the law to register responsibility for the distortion of historical facts (Minister of Education hi).
    And then you read a modern history textbook and you want to spit .... in the face of the compiler.
  4. horoh
    horoh 16 May 2013 06: 54 New
    +2
    I am for the law !!!!!!
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 16 May 2013 07: 00 New
    +3
    If you specify something, you need a link. And there is no law, no reference.
    The law is needed for a long time.
    1. folds
      folds 17 May 2013 17: 29 New
      0
      and the more distortion - as for example with Latynina - the further into the link :)
  6. ibn_hohol
    ibn_hohol 16 May 2013 07: 07 New
    +3
    With all hands for, and that would be all handy to carry out it is necessary to register an application for ROI.
    Here is also a good initiative http://www.odnako.org/blogs/show_25565/ should be done the same way.
  7. ded10041948
    ded10041948 16 May 2013 07: 08 New
    +1
    There are a lot of laws, they only begin to work when they give a command from the powerful Olympus. How many times has the Law on Responsibility for Fascist Symbols and the Propaganda of Fascism been applied? Result? Look at the walls of your porch, at the buildings! And there is nothing to refer to the fact that this is the work of youngsters! The law should work without regard to the social status of the one to whom it is applied and not only 10 days before Victory Day and 5 days after it, but constantly. Perhaps, taking into account modern realities, it is necessary to slightly correct them in the direction of the inevitability of punishment?
  8. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 16 May 2013 07: 15 New
    +2
    Yes, the problem lies precisely in the fact that even at the state level, they cannot figure out where the truth is, but where the lies and distortions of history. Ask Medvedev about Stalin, fines, Katyn, or a million raped Germans. I think you know what the answer will be. So until we finally carve out the truth about the war in granite and make it unshakable at the state level, we cannot talk about the law. But the law is needed. With all hands for!
  9. domokl
    domokl 16 May 2013 07: 21 New
    +7
    He put a plus, but ... Something bothers me to talk about life on Mars. Valery raised wonderful topics about Comedy Vuman and other creative creators to say the least. Here you have to beat them. And what are we? Who served in the SA decrypt-PPR.
    We pushed a stone from the mountain, but did not see that it was dispersed and carried away by others ... Who do we hope for? For deputies? For officials? So the holiday was over and for a whole year now you can think of reasons why this should not be done ...
    I think Esaulu should write an open letter himself, publish it here and collect signatures from everyone who supports it.
  10. fenix57
    fenix57 16 May 2013 08: 47 New
    +1
    , ++++ Maybe not in the subject ... BUT TWO movies watch: "STAR" AND "THUNDERING GATE" ... And do not shout about the fact that "I was there or was not," took!
  11. bairat
    bairat 16 May 2013 09: 00 New
    +1
    A mistake in the title of the topic hurts the eye.
    1. esaul
      16 May 2013 20: 00 New
      0
      Quote: bairat
      A mistake in the title of the topic hurts the eye.

      Ayrat, I welcome you hi
      Where did you, colleague, see a mistake? Unlike the original - "The dead don't need this! The alive need this!"? or in the arrangement of the spelling marks? Made on purpose, in order to raise questions and attract attention by its contradiction to the original.
      And now - ATTENTION! I am very grateful to all of you for your responses, your suggestions and your participation. And so that the "newborn" initiative does not become "stillborn", I invite everyone to join in developing the very wording of the appeal to our legislators. And the very mechanism of bringing it to "their holiest" attention, I think - we will find it! West ... Ugh, ugh, ugh ... Will the VO edition help us? wink
      Options - you are welcome to "PM" or - to VO (general review). laughing
  12. seller trucks
    seller trucks 16 May 2013 11: 12 New
    +3
    subject, a big plus. Since 2004 I have been shy about various resources, nowhere, I have not seen this. Respect and respect to the initiative group, how I can help, it will be necessary, I will bring people up from other resources. can anyone remember "Witch Hunter" with NR2
  13. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 16 May 2013 14: 15 New
    +2
    Impudent and obvious lies should be punished and she should be blocked.
  14. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 16 May 2013 14: 39 New
    +4
    Comparison of "Smersh" with "Gestapo" and "SS" by Leonid Goizman is just a brazen mockery of the country's millions of victims. How does such a Russophobe occupy any positions in Russia, why do we tolerate this Russian hater in Russia ???
  15. smershspy
    smershspy 16 May 2013 15: 34 New
    +5
    Quote: horoh
    I am for the law !!!!!!


    Lord! It's time to love and respect history, your people! I am for the law!
    And then I was faced with the fact that in some universities they teach the history of the Second World War as if the USSR is the worst enemy, the NKVD is worse than the SS, Russian soldiers ... and the Wehrmacht are great. My hair stands on end when I hear that: ".. our soldiers were idiots and did not take care of equipment, but went to their death ..." (quote from one of the university teachers). Horror! I will repeat once again - I am for the law! I have the honor!
    1. does it
      does it 16 May 2013 19: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: smershspy
      Lord! It's time to love and respect history, your people!