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What is happening in the Russian Ministry of Defense and the defense industry?

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What is happening in the Russian Ministry of Defense and the defense industry?

Transformations in the army, which were initiated by former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov, were not their personal initiative - it would be more accurate to call these processes the Putin-Medvedev reform. Changes in the army will continue, the expert said.


By the Victory Day, the Ministry of Defense prepared a completely festive news. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu decided to re-establish the Taman Motorized Rifle and Kantemirovskaya tank divisions disbanded in 2009 by ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. The ceremonial calculations of the reconstructed units took part in the parade on Red Square already under the new military banners. According to Viktor Baranets, a war journalist and a confidant of the president, “this is a fair return to the origins of our military stories". But the decision to revive the guards divisions is not only of historical significance, it again gave rise to talk about the creeping revision of the military reform initiated by Serdyukov. This week, 15 May, Sergei Shoigu will speak at the government hour in the State Duma. There is no doubt that he will be asked many questions about the fate of the reforms in the military department. In order to understand what is happening in the Ministry of Defense and more widely - in the Russian defense-industrial complex, Profil turned to one of the leading military experts, the director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies Ruslan Pukhov.

PROFILE: Ruslan, it seems that the new leadership of the Ministry of Defense is revising the reforms initiated under Anatolia Serdyukov. The recent decision to revive the Kantemirov and Taman divisions is perhaps only a detail, but very eloquent. Do you think reforms in the army can be curtailed?

Pukhov: Transformations in the army, which were initiated by former Minister Anatoly Serdyukov and Chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov, were not their personal initiative, but were carried out according to the will of the country's top political leadership.

And it would be more accurate to define what is happening as the Putin-Medvedev reform. Changes in the army long overdue and overdue, so that the transformation will continue.

Their general vector is the transition from a mass mobilization army, sharpened for a large world war, to more compact and professional armed forces, optimized primarily for low and medium intensity local and regional conflicts, and this vector is fully preserved. However, a number of areas are indeed subject to correction. The most important of these are changes in the management structure, from the highest level to the tactical one. Thus, under Serdyukov, the central apparatus of the Ministry of Defense was radically reduced. Some officers believed that as a result of these reductions, the controllability of the armed forces at the strategic level decreased. Now the number of this apparatus will increase again, but it will still remain at a lower level compared to the pre-Pro-Dyuk times. At the tactical level, there is a search for optimal structures in the connections of a new type, it does not matter whether they are called brigades or again divisions.

The second important innovation is a major change in the system and principles for the procurement of weapons and military equipment.

The Ministry of Defense began the transition to contracts for the entire life cycle - from the purchase and warranty operation to the disposal of weapons. This is a very serious change that will require enormous organizational and technological efforts on the part of the industry.

This also applies to the placement of orders for repairs that will be transferred from the system of repair plants of the Ministry of Defense to industrial enterprises that produce this equipment. The repair shops themselves are also planned to be transferred under the control of large state-owned industrial corporations.

Finally, Sergei Shoigu raises the question of excluding the Ministry of Defense from the pricing process for weapons and military equipment and transferring these functions to the Ministry of Economic Development and the Ministry of Industry and Trade. Let me remind you that it was precisely paralysis in this area that caused serious delays in the contracting of the state defense order in 2012, and especially in 2011. And it is quite possible that those multi-year contracts that, under the direct and intensive pressure of the country's top political leadership, were nonetheless concluded, will prove to be financially impracticable.

PROFILE: Why do you think that the Ministry of Economic Development and the Ministry of Industry and Trade will better deal with sensitive pricing issues?

Pukhov: I don’t think so, the Ministry of Defense is trying to focus on its direct responsibilities and get rid of the non-core functions of the buyer and seller. As for the system of tsennoobrazovaniya and in a broader sense - in general, the purchase of weapons and military equipment - then debugging this mechanism may take years. The Soviet system of relations between the army and industry can no longer be restored, for this we need a planned economy and total state control over industry. And the creation of a new procurement system in the framework of a market economy is a very complicated and long process. By the way, in the United States and other Western countries, procurement procedures and systems are also far from ideal.

PROFILE: However, there are fears in society that as long as the processes are rebuilt, a considerable part of the money allocated for the state defense order will simply be plundered.

Pukhov: The defense industry is under the supervision of a huge number of control bodies.

According to the director of one of the defense enterprises, immediately after signing a contract with the Ministry of Defense, only in the first 30 days did 40 pass through various checks.

Perhaps the most corruption-causing part of the defense industry is R & D, especially research. State bodies simply do not have the necessary competence to control the effectiveness of spending money on creating new types of equipment and, all the more, conducting basic research, and a system of independent expertise based on national technological centers has not yet been created.

As for the military itself, then, considering that the armed forces are probably the largest beneficiary of the budget, there will always be facts of inappropriate or incorrect use of funds. But, in general, I think the level of corruption in the army and defense industry is lower than in the whole country. By the way, please note that, despite the vigorous activity of the investigating authorities, the “Oboronservis” case is still not shaky.

PROFILE: Many experts are convinced that the matter is being hampered not because of a lack of materials, but because the authorities do not want to “hand over” to such an influential person as Anatoly Serdyukov.

Pukhov: I do not think so. Serdyukov’s figure is so demonized in the public mind that his “surrender” would be just beneficial for the authorities, if we proceed from populist considerations.

PROFILE: But can corruption scandals change the attitude to the state defense order and lead to its reduction?

Pukhov: The main threat of a change in the volume of defense order financing is a sharp deterioration in the macroeconomic situation, which in Russia can only happen if oil prices fall.

Only these circumstances of force majeure can force the country's top political leadership to abandon the program of large-scale rearmament of the army.

PROFILE: But is it worth spending $ 10 trillion on rearmament of 20? Who threatens us?

Pukhov: To begin with, the conflict of low intensity continues de facto in the North Caucasus. The ethnic separatist insurgency in Chechnya has been transformed into the all-Caucasian Salafi underground, which receives financial, organizational and military assistance from some Arab regimes. The pacification of Chechnya should not mislead anyone. The entire current structure of relations between Russia and Chechnya is based on the personal relations of the two leaders, Putin and Kadyrov. This design is very fragile. It is enough for any of the Saudi or Qatari despots to splash a little bit of fuel on the ember of the Caucasian embers in the form of two or three billion dollars, and the fire of war will break out with a new force. In Central Asia, the situation may immediately deteriorate immediately after the withdrawal of Western forces from Afghanistan in 2014. The Central Asian regimes themselves are weak, some of them will soon face the problem of the transfer of power, and this is always a traumatic process in autocratic systems. In the Far East, Japan retains open territorial claims to Russia. Competition in the Arctic is slowly but quite distinctly growing, and not only the Arctic states themselves are being drawn into it. So there are enough threats and risks. But we, of course, should all understand that the main threats to our future are internal. This is a poor demography, poor quality of government and bureaucracy, backward infrastructure, degrading education and health care. Under these conditions, the currently approved level of defense spending is the result of difficult compromises.

In general, I would define the existing military expenses as the minimum necessary for restoring the country's defense capability and the maximum possible, based on the real economic and financial potential of Russia.

PROFILE: Among the potential opponents of Russia, you did not name China. This country, in your opinion, does not pose a threat to us?

Pukhov: At present, China is pursuing a friendly policy toward Russia and does not pose a threat. However, due to the possible destabilization of the socio-economic situation in this country in the future, in the long term 10-15 years, it can really become a source of military risks for Russia.

PROFILE: Returning to the “work on the mistakes” of the former Ministry of Defense, Sergei Shoigu has already announced that we will not buy foreign equipment, including armored vehicles. In your opinion, the purchase of foreign weapons was the wrong step?

Pukhov: The import of weapons and the borrowing of defense technologies from abroad is a historical norm for Russia. Just the Soviet military industrial autarky during the Cold War was a deviation from this norm. Programs to create new weapons systems have become very expensive, and almost no one in the world, not even the United States, is able to fully, by 100%, provide for their defense needs only through the work of the national defense industry. So, the import of weapons is a long-term and inevitable trend. Another thing, you need to strive not for direct purchases, but for the implementation of joint projects. In addition, it seems that in this area there has previously been a strong bend in favor of procurement, and former chief of the General Staff Nikolai Makarov was a particularly great enthusiast of direct foreign procurement. If it were not for changes in the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, I am afraid we would witness new large and highly controversial import contracts. This approach reflected the deepest mistrust and even hostility towards the national defense industry, which, of course, was wrong. In general, now this inflection is also being corrected.

Among the contracts concluded by the Ministry of Defense for the purchase of foreign weapons are both successful and even necessary, and, in my opinion, erroneous. In general, of the four large projects, three look quite reasonable. These are Israeli drones, French Mistral helicopter carriers and the Rheinmetall electronic test site.

The most controversial is the planned purchase of a completely beyond the number of Italian Iveco armored vehicles. This purchase can in no way be justified either by the operational needs of the army or from an industrial point of view. After all, drones, landfill and helicopter carriers are purchased in the absence of Russian analogues. And Russian analogues of Italian cars exist, and, according to some professional estimates, they are more perfect.

PROFILE: You said that Mistral helicopter carriers are needed by Russia, but today this deal is being subjected to the fiercest criticism.

Pukhov: I am a supporter of the purchase of these ships. These are ideal platforms for ensuring the long-term presence of the Russian Navy in the oceans in peacetime, as well as for conducting paramilitary operations. Almost all states with minimal naval ambitions possess such ships. Case study: The Mistrals are well suited to evacuate a large number of people in difficult conditions. French helicopter carriers are an excellent tool for anti-piracy operations. In the Far East, they will also become control centers for diverse forces. fleetwhich should guarantee the sovereignty of Russia over the disputed Japanese Kuril Islands. Cooperation with the French in the purchase of the third and fourth ships, which should be built in Russia, will definitely benefit both Russian industrialists and sailors. Finally, the fact of such a sale is a strong foreign policy signal that Russia is not perceived by the leading European countries as a hostile alien. The termination of the contract would entail enormous reputation costs and the payment of penalties.

PROFILE: In what types of weapons is Russia ahead of its Western competitors?

Pukhov: There is a simple, but very accurate indicator of the real competitiveness of certain systems - export sales. Based on this parameter, we see that Russia has a strong position in the segments of heavy fighters of the Su-30 family, Mi-17 transport assault helicopters, air defense systems of all classes - from MANPADS to long-range anti-aircraft missile systems . We have excellent tactical missiles, but they sell poorly due to political restrictions. For example, Russia canceled in its time the already concluded contract for the supply of Iskander-E complexes to Syria.

PROFILE: Where are we far behind?

Pukhov: The greatest lag has accumulated in the field of unmanned aviation systems, control systems, intelligence and communications, electronic warfare. So far, there are no significant successes in the light helicopter segment. In the field of submarine building, we have lagged behind the Germans, Swedes and French with the technology of an air-independent power plant, but now this lag is being overcome. As for surface shipbuilding, Russia is a strong middle peasant here. Unlike aircraft construction, where before the collapse of the USSR, we managed, like the Americans, to reach the fourth generation, at sea there was a gap of one generation, and it has not yet been overcome. Nevertheless, thanks to Indian orders, our country has a relatively modern surface platform of the Project 11356 frigate and the corresponding fire and electronic systems.

PROFILE: Is the high cost of purchasing new aircraft justified? They make up a quarter of the total volume of the state defense order ...

Pukhov: I think that the cost of aviation equipment is justified more than any other costs for the purchase of weapons, with the exception, perhaps, of only control, reconnaissance and communications systems. The Air Force is not only a very powerful, but also a very flexible tool that can be used in virtually all types of conflicts in which Russia can be theoretically involved - from global nuclear war to strikes on terrorists.

If we are talking about any disproportions in the procurement, I would single out too large, in my opinion, the cost of the navy. Russia is, by definition, a land power, and the main threats emanate for the country from land directions.

PROFILE: Is it possible to somehow improve the efficiency of defense enterprises? There were plans to transfer part of the state defense order to private companies and even to share the existing state-owned production enterprises. Do you think this is the right direction?

Pukhov: Several areas of work to improve the efficiency of the defense industry seem obvious. Firstly, equalization of opportunities of private and state companies. Now, all other things being equal, state corporations are in a privileged position compared to private owners. At the same time, private owners, in my opinion, work as a whole, perhaps, more efficiently. For example, the Irkut Aircraft Corporation and the Saturn engine-building enterprise were world-class first-class companies. Unfortunately, they were nationalized in 2006-2008. Although then, probably, these were the inevitable costs of the state-led consolidation of the defense industry. Further, now the need for new privatization through an IPO of large vertically integrated state-owned corporations, as they are called in Europe, “national champions” is becoming ever more relevant. This process is complicated and long, but it is necessary to prepare it.

PROFILE: Could it be that by the time Russia completes the modernization of its army, the developed countries will again be far ahead?

Pukhov: Modernization of the army is a permanent and endless process.

It is impossible to achieve such a state so that it can be said: everything, all the measures for reforming have been implemented, the rearmament is completed, we have reached the ideal. As for the “developed countries”, they, with the exception of the United States, are experiencing a degradation of the military organization. The budgets and the number of troops are reduced, the procurement programs are cut, the quality of personnel is deteriorating.

Global power is shifting to Asia, and it is there that the most intensive efforts are being made to increase military capabilities.
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  1. fortunophile
    fortunophile 15 May 2013 15: 28 New
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    The main thing is that the article lists the puppeteers and puppets, otherwise everyone has a thief, and Putin and Medvedev are white and fluffy. The Minister of Defense cannot break the backbone of the army on his knee and behave like an elephant in a china shop, selling everything that has value, and the GVK does not know about anything. The "skater" was overwhelmed, his father-in-law passed (in order to take revenge for his daughter) and along the way to calm the people down
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 15 May 2013 15: 34 New
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      Quote: ....
      the transition from a mass mobilization army, sharpened for the great world war, to a more compact and professional armed forces, optimized primarily for local and regional conflicts of low and medium intensity,


      A controversial issue, the third world is already underway and the matter is not in NATO tanks near Moscow, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran ...



      1. vilenich
        vilenich 16 May 2013 04: 56 New
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        Quote: Vadivak
        Controversial issue

        And I drew attention to this phrase:
        the transition from a mass mobilization army, sharpened for the great world war, to a more compact and professional armed forces, optimized primarily for local and regional conflicts of low and medium intensity

        sounds like a spell! "Professional" aircraft are emerging again, but what does this mean? Level of training or principle of recruitment? I really liked the interpretation of the term "professional" in the Wiki (especially the closing part):
        Professional - a person who has made a certain occupation of his profession; a person who has become a specialist in any field of activity, a specialist trained to work in a certain field, having skills, qualifications, and, if necessary, permission to perform duties in his specialty. Many people confuse the concept of a professional with a master. Not all professionals can be masters of their craft, just like a master in a certain field of activity is not always a professional in this field of activity.

        It's amazing how, at the beginning of the article, a leading military expert, director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, stands for "compact and professional Armed Forces," and at the end of the article declares that there are global military threats to Russia, including from China:
        Pukhov: At present, China is pursuing a friendly policy toward Russia and does not pose a threat. However, due to the possible destabilization of the socio-economic situation in this country in the future, in the long term 10-15 years, it can really become a source of military risks for Russia.

        Quite strange conclusions for an expert.
        I will not repeat further, many blunders in the article are indicated below.
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta 15 May 2013 15: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: fortuneophile
      The "skater" was overwhelmed, his father-in-law passed (to take revenge for his daughter) and along the way to calm the people down

      who is this skirt? and whose daughter is it?
      ps - and I watch you in 2 days on criticism to the captain has grown, not a bad career laughing they love such people here ... well done, quickly entered the team. wassat
      1. fortunophile
        fortunophile 15 May 2013 15: 49 New
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        Quote: djon3volta
        who is this skirt? and whose daughter is it?

        Well, in "Vesti" they don't talk about it. John, you are needed on the forum without you bland and boring.
        Quote: djon3volta
        and I watch you in 2 days on criticism have grown up to the captain, not a bad career

        Still admit that I "criticize" and not "pour a tub of slops" and do not conduct white-ribbon propaganda winked
        Thank you for your honest words. hi
        well done, quickly entered the team. wassat

        I am alone, like that little penguin on my avatar. In a team you need to work and relax, but in virtual it is not interesting to put together teams. I am as I am, what I think and write, sometimes "raking" at the same time hi
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 15 May 2013 18: 48 New
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          Dear Fortunophil, your criticism is destroying the cozy world of bipolar (seeing two categories of people - for the GDP and - for the State Department of State). With your statements, you are shaking the blissful picture of our country where the EBN brought patriots (GDP) to power and now nothing needs to be done, but only to support the "popularly elected" - and then everything will be super! Therefore, be prepared for accusations of love for Novodvorskaya, the State Department, Nemtsov, Khakamada, and so on.
          Hold on, at one time I proudly wore 2 skulls on shoulder straps (it was not nice, but I continued to tell the truth). Continue to uphold your point of view, tell the truth, remember - you are not alone, there are many of us! Call a spade a spade!
          http://news.rambler.ru/19049419/
          1. fortunophile
            fortunophile 15 May 2013 18: 59 New
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            Quote: S_mirnov
            Your criticism at the root destroys the cozy world of the bipolar (seeing two categories of people - for GDP and - for the State Department).

            Yes, people are surprisingly living in a black and white world, even without shades, boldly dividing people into the right (they and who are with them) and enemies (and nothing less). Why try to delve into something and think about something when you can turn on the News (John boasts that he will find out about everything there) and find out from the release who is right and who is wrong. It's funny how they want to shoot (hang, on a stake, etc.) Taburetkin, but they forget 2 GVKs under whose leadership he "made reforms." Education, medicine, agriculture, too, "enemies" udalali (saboteurs seem to be).
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Therefore, be prepared for accusations of love for Novodvorskaya, the State Department, Nemtsov, Khakamada, and so on and so forth.

            Well, this is a passed stage, when there are no arguments, all that remains is to find fault with the flag and accuse of swamps. It works for them at the level of reflexes and brand the enemy with the slogan "Glory to Putin!" (They have it as a control in the head) winked
            Quote: S_mirnov
            Continue to uphold your point of view, tell the truth, remember - you are not alone, there are many of us! Call a spade a spade!

            I noticed that the situation has changed, there have become more normal members of the forum, a year ago I would have flaunted skulls (tinsel and no more, but for some it’s a fetish wassat ), roofing felts began to think, roofing felts see life and draw the right conclusions. Thanks for the kind words hi
            1. Troitsky
              Troitsky 15 May 2013 19: 37 New
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              the point is that some people like you only see "black". and if something "white" happens, then it is possible, as it were, not to notice.
              and by the way, whose daughter are you talking about?
              1. ansimov
                ansimov 15 May 2013 22: 55 New
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                hi I do not understand. I support VVP, but I don’t go with the slogan “Glory to Putin!” I agree that Putin makes mistakes, but because of this, I don’t go to the marsh.

                C respect.
                1. ansimov
                  ansimov 16 May 2013 19: 23 New
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                  And again, since you don't like Putin so much, suggest someone better! And then this criticism bothered me. If you want all (or almost all) of our elite "to stake", then suggest people who will then take the place of the "planted".
                  PS I do not consider bloggers (from the opposition) and actors (from the LDPR), as well as all that is similar to them, to be considered as condates for the post of head of state.
                  PS2 If you offer someone, it will look much better, otherwise you get the impression that you want to destroy everything, but you do not want to create anything.
            2. Rustiger
              Rustiger 16 May 2013 21: 07 New
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              Quote: fortuneophile
              it remains only to find fault with the flag and blame the swamps.

              That is, all the same, as I expected, the "flag" will not be the "tricolor" and the Soviet paraphernalia allows you to hide the host country (registration with an Internet provider). ... ...
              1. fortunophile
                fortunophile 16 May 2013 21: 11 New
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                Quote: Rustiger
                That is, all the same, as I expected, the "flag" will not be "tricolor" and the Soviet paraphernalia allows you to hide the host country (registration with an Internet provider)

                I am a Muscovite, I live and work in Moscow. Do not be holier than the Pope and just contact Alexander Romanov in PM he tells you
                everything will explain about me. No need to look for a black cat ... everything is much simpler hi
              2. Apollo
                Apollo 16 May 2013 21: 28 New
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                Quote: Rustiger
                Soviet paraphernalia allows you to hide the host country (registration with an Internet provider). . .


                The checkbox question is closed. Definitely. bullyYou late. winked
  2. Arct
    Arct 15 May 2013 15: 45 New
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    One of the leading experts, director of the center for analysis and technology ... how can one carry such nonsense?
    "In what types of weapons is Russia now ahead of its Western competitors? In the field of submarine shipbuilding."
    "Where are we lagging far behind? In the field of submarine construction, we lagged behind the Germans, Swedes and French with the technology of the air-independent power plant."
    No intelligent analyst would ever allow such a blunder. We are either ahead or not ahead. In the words of this "analyst" who has played with convenient phrases, we are ahead of the West in the field of submarine shipbuilding, but we are lagging behind in some part of it. Rave.

    And, excuse me, but warships are created for military operations, and not for evacuation. Create a fleet of the Ministry of Emergencies if you really need these semi-civil troughs.
    And again the "analyst" blooper:
    "I am an advocate of purchasing these ships."
    "If we talk about any disproportions in purchases, I would single out too large, in my opinion, the costs of the navy. Russia is by definition a land power, and the main threats to the country come from overland directions."
    The purchase of Mistrals is a very expensive contract. Maybe, comrade, have already decided? And it turns out that the cost of the fleet is overstated, but warships in peacetime are very good for us.

    “Several areas of work to improve the efficiency of the defense industry seem to be obvious. First, equalization of opportunities for private and state-owned companies. Now, all other things being equal, state-owned corporations are in a privileged position in comparison with private companies. At the same time, private companies, in my opinion, work in In general, perhaps more efficiently.For example, the aircraft-building corporation Irkut and the engine-building enterprise Saturn were world-class first-class companies. Unfortunately, they were nationalized in 2006-2008. Although then, probably, these were the inevitable costs of the Further, now the need for new privatization through the IPO of large vertically integrated state corporations, as they are called in Europe, “national champions.” This process is complex and long, but it must be prepared, looks more and more urgent. "
    I don’t even want to comment on this pro-Western nonsense.
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt 15 May 2013 16: 07 New
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      Why publish this pro-Western swindler Pukhov! He went nafig !!! am
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 16 May 2013 00: 38 New
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        Hi Grisha! hi And in what, in your opinion, his "pro-Western" character is visible in the questions presented. Balanced responses, an honest overview of the strengths and weaknesses of the Russian defense industry. What is, it is. Without boasting, but also without indiscriminate groaning. I like it. I am ready to subscribe to almost all of Pukhov's statements. Maybe in his other articles he was wedged "to the west" somewhere, but here everything is in moderation.
        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt 16 May 2013 08: 23 New
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          Good morning, Vadim yes hi In no case do not argue with you!
          Yes, everything seems to be correct, BUT: I do not agree with the fact that it is necessary to give defense enterprises for privatization. "Unfortunately, nationalized," he said ..
          Well, now the trend is this, in general, the article may be reasonable - but here the main destructive element creeps in between the lines! Have we lost our memory? We don’t remember how de-industrialized our country through privatization? No i don't support him No.
    2. Garrin
      Garrin 15 May 2013 18: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Arkt
      "Where are we lagging far behind? In the field of submarine construction, we lagged behind the Germans, Swedes and French with the technology of the air-independent power plant."
      No intelligent analyst would ever allow such a blunder. We are either ahead or not ahead. In the words of this "analyst" who has played with convenient phrases, we are ahead of the West in the field of submarine shipbuilding, but we are lagging behind in some part of it. Rave.

      +++ I completely agree.
    3. soldat1945
      soldat1945 15 May 2013 19: 45 New
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      Yes, in general, the article is nonsense, I do not know what kind of expert he is, because judging by the statements on mistrals and drones, he is a complete layman or from the "Red Star" he gets information, drones are complete nonsense I speak for the "sercher" studied for him absolutely not adapted to the landscape having a flat surface, because of this, the purchase was suspended, and our shipyards were able to make a large barge for the movement of people, and now there is a problem with fuel, then with a control system that cannot be integrated into our article, a huge minus is only confusing!
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger 16 May 2013 00: 49 New
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        Quote: soldat1945
        Yes, in general, the article is nonsense, I don’t know what kind of expert he is because, judging by the statements on the Mistrals and drones, he is a complete layman

        Suppose you can agree somewhere with these points, but why didn’t you mention this "Rheinmetall electronic test site."
        As far as I understand, we are talking about this thing
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        Last November, a new 50-kilowatt laser gun from Rheinmetall Defense was tested. The test took place at a training ground in Switzerland. The laser gun was integrated with the anti-aircraft artillery system Oerlikon. Last year, similar tests were carried out, but the gun had a capacity of only 10 kilowatts. During the year, the creators increased the power of the gun 5 times, and next year it is planned to increase the power to 60 kilowatts. But this is not the limit, the goal of the project is to create a 100-kilowatt laser gun, which will become the weapon of the future.
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        During the tests, the gun showed good results: firstly, a 15 mm sheet of steel was pierced from a distance of one kilometer, and secondly, the gun hit a 82 mm steel ball at a speed of 180 km / h. And at the final stage of the tests, the laser gun knocked out two unmanned aerial vehicles at a distance of two kilometers. If you take this on faith, then, as far as I know, nothing of the kind was presented to Russia, even close.
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  3. Andrey57
    Andrey57 15 May 2013 15: 51 New
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    It seems to me that corporatization of the defense industry is absolutely useless, and it is just wonderful to give private owners equal rights if they can compete. And I fundamentally disagree with the opinion that the cost of the fleet is overstated due to the "land" of the country, in fact, most of our borders go along the seas of the Arctic, Pacific oceans, as well as the Baltic, Black and Caspian seas. And we just need a powerful fleet. And the conclusions of the "analyst" regarding the compactness of the army are a very controversial issue, we have a "weird" military-political situation along the entire southern perimeter, so it's definitely too early to talk about possible minor local conflicts.
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  5. Stat1k
    Stat1k 15 May 2013 15: 54 New
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    Everything is clear here ...
    1. ale-x
      ale-x 15 May 2013 16: 16 New
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      Fine..
    2. Canep
      Canep 15 May 2013 17: 42 New
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      Everything is clear here ...
      If only he would say hello to the fighters. You can immediately see the civilian. If only I would consult about etiquette (charter).
    3. waisson
      waisson 15 May 2013 20: 26 New
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      and where we were going to take a rest in Honduras, and then near Moscow
  6. Andy061
    Andy061 15 May 2013 16: 19 New
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    I forgot to get an iPhone ..
    Circus....
    1. kind
      kind 15 May 2013 17: 32 New
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      This video was shot on an iPhone! laughing
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  8. My address
    My address 15 May 2013 17: 00 New
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    I look at DAM and very rarely and a little bit, but I sympathize. He knows how the people love him. It is evident that he knows, he is behaving very unnaturally.
    But he would never leave himself. So, the chair respects more than yourself. Not manly it.
  9. Vtel
    Vtel 15 May 2013 17: 06 New
    +2
    We have a dime a dozen analysts, but analyzes, as always, are not sugar - without a glucometer in any way. Roly house - No Manka, Manka at home - No Roly. Private military companies, then private military armies, and then soup with Serdyuk. The Mistrals got us - Russia all the past zhisty always managed the gingerbread for its gingerbread cookies, and then a whole cake for a round sum, and even for the service later, the custodians will have to kiss.
  10. optimist
    optimist 15 May 2013 17: 15 New
    +2
    Taburetkin will not be surrendered for one simple reason - the entire Putin "vertical" will crumble ... laughing I remember the catchphrase: "This, of course, is the son of a son, but he is OUR son of a son. And about his" initiative "in reforms: the" infallible "VVP in those years was his immediate boss (the prime minister). And now this "Moor" has done his job and will quietly leave for another dust-free and rich position.
  11. qroz5
    qroz5 15 May 2013 17: 28 New
    +2
    Yes, initially it was clear no one perdyukov, the whole supply from Dima, and now the fart is still a victim, it is necessary to put Dima on the stake and with it the entire Jewish government, they want to repeat the 17 year
  12. qroz5
    qroz5 15 May 2013 17: 28 New
    -1
    Yes, initially it was clear no one perdyukov, the whole supply from Dima, and now the fart is still a victim, it is necessary to put Dima on the stake and with it the entire Jewish government, they want to repeat the 17 year
  13. Canep
    Canep 15 May 2013 17: 38 New
    +1
    According to the director of one of the defense enterprises, immediately after signing a contract with the Ministry of Defense, only in the first 30 days did 40 pass through various checks.
    With such "hate" control, one should not be surprised that defense plants are more willing to take on foreign orders. You need to know when to stop!
  14. tank64rus
    tank64rus 15 May 2013 18: 03 New
    +1
    Is it really not clear to the military expert that the practical development of new methods of warfare is now underway. It all starts with the organization of the opposition in the country, which is divided into non-radical and radical. The most important problems and contradictions in the country and society are sought out. Then comes their promotion with the help of controlled and foreign media. Public opinion about the authorities in a given country is being formed. Then, if the government wavered, they try to remove it peacefully. Having put their people in power from the opposition, they get the country at their disposal. If not, then the radical opposition enters the game, terrorist attacks, explosions and murders begin, the pro-Western media and foreign states again accuse the authorities of failing to establish order, at the same time screams are heard about the violation of "human rights" in this country. If uncompromising people are in power here too, they move on to the next option - armed rebellion. The recruitment and dispatch of weapons, mercenaries, instructors, etc. to the aid of the "opposition" begins. A civil war breaks out in the country. Western media make a fiend of hell out of the country in the world community, providing support for the "opposition" in the information war. Further, if the goal is not achieved here, the beginning of a direct military large-scale intervention under any pretext, that is, war. Well that's all. So what kind of war should Russia be preparing for?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 15 May 2013 18: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: tank64rus
      Having put their people in power from the opposition, they get the country at their disposal.

      And if the country has been in power for a long time "its people"? Then what kind of war should we prepare?
  15. Garrin
    Garrin 15 May 2013 18: 47 New
    +1
    It is enough for any of the Saudi or Qatari despots to pour a little fuel in the form of a couple of three billion dollars on smoldering Caucasian coals, and the fire of war will flare up with renewed vigor. In Central Asia, the situation can sharply aggravate immediately after the withdrawal of Western forces from Afghanistan in 2014.

    Nonsense. Reply once truly harshly and shut up.
  16. Garrin
    Garrin 15 May 2013 18: 52 New
    +1
    In addition, it seems that in this area there has been a strong inflection in favor of procurement, and Nikolai Makarov, the former chief of the General Staff, was especially great enthusiast of direct foreign purchases.

    Serdyukov Witness.
  17. Garrin
    Garrin 15 May 2013 18: 56 New
    -1
    We have excellent tactical missiles, but they sell poorly due to political constraints. For example, Russia canceled at the time the already concluded contract for the supply of Iskander-E complexes to Syria.

    Why sell them? "Such a cow will come in handy ourselves."
  18. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 15 May 2013 19: 31 New
    +1
    Mr. Pukhov's opinion is controversial and controversial. But on one thing I agree with him: the country's top leadership is responsible for the results of the "reforms" in the RF Armed Forces. I believe that the biggest problem of the "reforms" is the blind copying of the structure of the US Armed Forces without taking into account Russian realities. And the purchase of foreign military equipment. it's planned blow for domestic defense industry!
  19. k220150
    k220150 15 May 2013 19: 36 New
    0
    It is necessary to return the governing bodies of the entire cycle of weapons systems, and more strictly control the process so that the promised 20 trillion will not be plundered. And about Serdyukov - do not confuse the reforms that are needed with theft, which is not needed.
  20. waisson
    waisson 15 May 2013 20: 29 New
    -3
    big pipina belay fellow recourse request sad angry yes crying yes that's what happens hi
  21. individual
    individual 15 May 2013 21: 06 New
    +1
    I read in "Arguments of the Week" # 17 0t May 7 etlgl of the year. "Who controls us, what is the quality of our elite?" In the same article they write that Igor Shuvalov, the deputy of Medvedev, together with his wife grab one million two hundred thousand rubles every day. Their income is forty times that of President Putin. - And how many such shuvalovs, dvorkovichs, manturovs are at the very top. Now I read in Yandex: “The prosecutor’s office is asking Shoigu to fire the head of Oboronservis. My point is he should be in prison three months ago, and you see, he still receives a salary !!! ? "In the war against corruption, it's time to revive SMERSH, only Sh must be replaced by Ch. And you get" Death to officials-treasury thieves. "Give this service the same rights as during the Second World War.
    In war, as in war.
  22. aviamed90
    aviamed90 15 May 2013 21: 33 New
    +1
    "Pukhov: I don't think so. The figure of Serdyukov is so demonized in the public consciousness that his surrender would be just beneficial to the authorities, if we proceed from populist considerations."

    What does "demonized" mean? Someone forced him to steal?

    In other words - "They lied to the quietest Serdyuk."
    And does the leading expert say this?
    1. k220150
      k220150 15 May 2013 21: 48 New
      -1
      Ruslan Pukhov is not an expert, he is an "expert".
  23. My doctor
    My doctor 15 May 2013 22: 35 New
    -1
    The analyst completely agrees with the reasoning, but his mistakes in the conclusions spoil the whole impression.
    Or the author edited the interview clumsily in order to save space
    or the analyst is not an analyst at all, and this is an ahtung full kapets if this is the level
    / one of the leading military experts, director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies /

    or such a technology at first enter into trust, making reasonable conclusions and then use the trust to mislead, but here the fool can see the contradictions in his answers
    or ... (here you can come up with options yourself explaining the essence of what you read)
  24. killganoff
    killganoff 15 May 2013 22: 38 New
    +2
    A well-planned and veiled by beautiful slogans program to destroy the Soviet potential of the armed forces.
  25. sso-xnumx
    sso-xnumx 15 May 2013 22: 43 New
    0
    in general: "if you want peace, prepare for war ..."
  26. Siberian German
    Siberian German 16 May 2013 04: 19 New
    +1
    Nooo-Putin is white and fluffy and a liberator from Yeltsin and Chechen bandits (soaked in the toilet and surfaced a little later throughout Russia) Well, add the rest yourself
  27. Magadan
    Magadan 16 May 2013 05: 43 New
    +1
    Well, we agreed: the fact that the USSR independently developed 100% of its own weapons, which turned out to be head and shoulders above the NATO weapons - this means "deviation from the norm", this is "Soviet author"! The result is not important, it is important that the USSR means bad, and everything is necessary as in the West!
    Return the defense to 100% to the state! Private trader let them bake pies !!!
  28. Tolik. 975
    Tolik. 975 16 May 2013 07: 05 New
    0
    I read the article with pleasure; he’s been in the army for more than a year, though much did not inspire, but gave hope for the best ... whatever one may say, his people and relatives should be protected even in this difficult situation, where the enemy’s machinations behind tinsel of tricks and lies are dimly visible