Continent of Russian ideology

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Russian information and ideological space needs protection from external special influences

The USA, the West as a whole openly express discontent with the independent policy of Russia. They are also threatening to keep it in the semi-colonial grip of 90, declaring the native Russian geopolitical space as a zone of their interests, and have turned to the strategy of surrounding Russia with military bases. The information-ideological base created by means of external special information-ideological influences on the population of Russia is brought under all these actions.

One of the main directions in the destruction of Russian national identity is precisely the external special informational and ideological influences in the militaryhistorical, patriotic spheres. In this "constructive" work, the United States uses the concept of "democracy" so intensely that it has lost its original content and has become a basic element of the political technology used by the United States throughout the world, including against Russia.

At the heart of self-awareness

On 65, the anniversary of the opening of the second front, US President Barack Obama said that it was the allies who defeated fascism, and did not say a word about their role in the victory of the USSR. But the contribution of the Allies to the victory was too different. The Soviet people, its Armed Forces in 1941 – 1945 defeated 600 German divisions, and the Anglo-American troops 176. On the Soviet-German front, Germany lost 72 percent of servicemen and 75 percent of equipment, so the main contribution to the victory was made by the Soviet people and its Armed Forces.

Continent of Russian ideology

The more silent are the subjects of external special informational and ideological influences of these figures, the more often they need to be resurrected in the people's memory. Indeed, young generations know about the Great Patriotic War through books, films, television programs, newspapers, magazines, which are published now and sometimes, capturing the political situation, present the history of our victory in the same way as foreign subjects of special information and ideological influences. What to oppose this? Education of young Russians on the basis of the ideology of patriotism, service to the Fatherland.

Germany won half the world, and could have won the whole, if not the Russian national character, the basis of which is a non-aggressive, sacrificial feeling. It is easier for a Russian to die for his country, people, than to see their reproach. Russians are sometimes venerated by saints precisely for the sacredness of self-sacrifice, which forms the basis of Russian self-consciousness, for the uncompromising determination to stand for the truth, not for life, but for death. This is the mainland of Russian ideology. The Germans are good mathematicians, they calculated everything, everything seemed to be taken into account. All but one: they underestimated the mainland of Russian ideology. And they would have had one end, even if they took Moscow, crossed the Volga. From this, the conclusions were made by the United States, which, by manipulating history, tries to not repeat this fatal miscalculation for the Germans.

Modern external special informational and ideological influences are used precisely for this purpose.

Certain methods

Subjects of external special information and ideological influences use certain methods. First of all, this is an ideologized, biased, dismissive treatment of facts, documents, that is, a violation of the rules of scientific and historical research. “New reading” of the history of Russia as a whole and the Great Patriotic War of 1941 – 1945 in particular is systematically and persistently imposed. Using this source, the authenticity of which is not confirmed, or false documents.

Specially created myths are being introduced into the public consciousness, for example, that the NKVD and the Gestapo collaborated in the fight against world Jewry before World War II, published fakes that were issued as secret documents, which are still hidden by archives.

New concepts are introduced into common vocabulary without proper scientific justification. For example, the “Battle of Rzhev” to refer to the battles of 1942 – 1943, which were waged by the troops of the Western and Kalinin fronts against the German army group “Center”. These battles are equated to the Moscow and Stalingrad battles without controversy at the military-theoretical level, where the concepts of “battle”, “battle”, “battle” are invested with certain content. This is done specifically in order to shape the image of the Rzhev meat grinder in the minds of Russians as a symbol of the mediocrity of the Soviet command, its disregard for the lives of soldiers.

The logical structures of the external special informational and ideological influences include separate events, personalities. Thus, General Vlasov, from a traitor, is made one of the leading figures in Russian history in the 20th century, who allegedly used the Germans in the struggle against Stalinism - the worst yoke in all of Russian history. Historical personalities are credited with intentions, which they then pass off as facts and build causal relationships on their basis. For example, they say that the Soviet leadership intended to unleash World War II in order to kindle a revolutionary fire in Europe, prepare an attack on Germany, and crush capitalism by military means. At the end of his presidential term, Viktor Yushchenko awarded Stepan Bandera - the symbol of the infinite, on the blood of nationalism - the title of Hero of Ukraine.

The main attention in the external special information and ideological influences is still paid to Stalin. This technique is designed to, to vilify it, to blacken the entire national history of the Soviet period and thereby deprive us of pride in the Great Victory, our great achievements, which brought the country into world leaders. But as sociological studies show, the more they criticize Stalin, the greater the percentage of those for whom he was and remains a great leader who saved Russia from destruction. He is not a saint, he had the right, like all people, like Western leaders, to make mistakes. But Stalin corrected the mistakes, leading the country to victory. In our country, his role in history will be assessed both by mistakes and by merit before the Fatherland. Generations of Russians will figure out what he is to blame, and what deserves thanks. We need to analyze Stalin as a person, as one of the leaders of Russia, not only in black or white, but in the whole range of colors, in order to understand him, our mistakes and achievements, and try not to repeat what may harm us. Throwing the name of Stalin from history, no matter how anyone would like, is impossible. It is from this that we must proceed.

Symbols of social memory are undermined. For logical constructions of external special informational and ideological influences, for example, they use Nikolai Gastello, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, 28 Panfilov heroes, Alexander Matrosov. Omitting the facts, they cast doubt on the events in their lives. Build assumptions that tend to persuade an audience that does not have the information in full. We honor these names, because they have embodied the feat of the entire Soviet people. To erase these names from memory means to erase the notion of high and low, the memory of one’s own feat, one’s victory, the spiritual core.

"Bitter truth"

Logical structures in external special informational and ideological influences are built in such a way as to create a negative view of the positive facts of Soviet history. So, a series of special informational and ideological influences about the atrocities of the Red Army in defeated Germany as a consequence of Stalin's totalitarianism, maimed people's souls, and Asian barbarism are used. During any wars committed murder, robbery, violence against women. Soviet archival documents show how severely they were punished for this in the Red Army. But after all, violence was the answer of those whose houses were destroyed, their wives were raped, children were killed, family members were looted.

It is possible to compare the cruelty of the Soviet and German armies by means of numbers. Not the Red Army destroyed the 28 of millions of Germans, but the German Army destroyed the 28 of millions of Soviet citizens. Add to this figure another six million victims of the Holocaust, and everything will be clear with the level of cruelty of the German army and the Red Army. To this could be added colossal figures on the destruction of Soviet material and cultural values, cities, villages. It was the extermination of a part of world civilization. Why do subjects of external informational and ideological influences hold back the fact that the Nuremberg process defined the level of cruelty of the German army as genocide?

In the West, in the USA, many and systematically pay attention to the Holocaust — the murder by the Germans of six million Jews. Yes, it is a global tragedy. There can be no forgiveness for this, even beyond many years. But if the destruction of six million people is a universal tragedy, what is the destruction of the 28 of millions of Soviet citizens? Why no one in the world condemns it at least the same as the Holocaust? Are there any unofficial geopolitical quotations of people's lives based on their nationality? Indeed, among the millions of Soviet citizens destroyed by the Germans 28 were Jews. We must pay tribute to the leadership and the people of Israel, who, despite the ideologists of NATO, the United States declares that the Red Army saved mankind from being enslaved by Nazi Germany.

The United States, Europe are silent about the crimes of the US military against civilians in defeated Germany. The facts recreate a horrifying picture of the orgy of violence that has swept across the American occupation zone of Germany. In the West, the “Forbidden for publication” stamp is superimposed on archives indicating that, for example, the Americans in their area of ​​occupation of Germany starved a million German prisoners.

In particular, this is evidenced by the French captain Joseph Julien, in August 1945, who worked in West Germany as a member of a special commission, the writer from Canada, James Buck, in his book Other Loss, the official biographer of the Commander-in-Chief of the US Eisenhower, Stephen Ambrose Albert Coudry. German Chancellor Konrad Adenauer raised a question in the US State Department: what happened to the 1,5 of the million German prisoners who did not return home? The letter of the head of the Red Cross, Max Hubert, to the commander-in-chief of the US troops, Eisenhower, has been kept In it, Hubert asks permission to bring canned food to a prisoner of war camp. Eisenhower answered: "You are forbidden to transfer food to enemies." According to the book of James Buck, "Other losses" in American captivity in six months they buried as many Germans as in Soviet captivity in eight years.

Carefully hiding these and other facts, Western subjects of special informational and ideological influences on Russian society accuse Soviet servicemen of cruelty, teach morality and democracy, although the Americans behaved in Germany with prisoners and civilians far worse. Thus, the new generations of Russians are trying to work out a complex of guilt, inferiority, repentance for what is to blame for those who are imposed on them as teachers of morality and democracy.

On the basis of the “bitter truth”, modern Russophobic ideologues draw conclusions that are necessary for the subjects of external special information and ideological influences on the foreign and Russian public. Statements about the “unpredictability of the Russian past” should convince Russians that Russia has no past at all, and thus deprive them of their historical memory. French President Mitterrand said: "A people who do not study their history is a people who lose their identity."
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  1. +11
    15 May 2013 07: 13
    To have immunity to the West (they always lie there and in everything, even where it seems you cannot lie) - this is one thing. Another, most important thing, to have your own - correct - upbringing. Here, the link — the school — especially falls through. It is necessary to drive Lebanon, Fursenok, etc.
    1. vadimus
      +2
      15 May 2013 08: 02
      Western reforms have thrown us back. It's time to think about your own. Who, if not we have something to be proud of!
      1. +2
        15 May 2013 10: 58
        The Governor of the Saratov Region Valery Radaev invited Chinese business to create joint production and production infrastructure in the region. He stated this today at a round table on the interaction of the Volga Federal District and China during his visit to China.

        “The Saratov region is ready to provide a land plot with the necessary communications and provide preferential preferences for the creation of new innovative enterprises,” said Valery Radaev.

        According to Valery Radaev, Russian-Chinese cooperation is promising in the field of medical research, in the field of lasers and laser devices and in the field of biotechnology.
        ITS ALL BROKEN, ASKED. EVERYTHING AS 1000 YEARS BACK = - WE ARE FOOLS TO COME TO US AND LEARN US. IN THE BEST CASE THIS IS FROM A NOT FAR MIND ...
        And RAAEVA PUT VOLODIN ...
    2. +1
      15 May 2013 08: 22
      Already "driven". Fursenko was kicked out to Skolkovo. Now he is a curator !!!
      1. Shawnee
        0
        15 May 2013 14: 52
        Quote: treskoed
        Already "driven"

        Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev began to make notes not in the iPad, but in a notebook so that no one would think that he was playing. He said this at the International Law Forum in St. Petersburg, RIA Novosti reported.

        “I wrote by hand, so that there would be no doubt that I was listening to my colleagues,” the prime minister said. He added that at the previous meeting of the forum he used the iPad for notes, after which he was reproached for “playing the whole forum”.

        Dmitry Medvedev is known for his love of Apple devices. For the first time, the iPad tablet appeared in his spring of 2010. Then Medvedev, the former president of Russia, said that those who are trying to shut themselves down from technology make a mistake and deprive themselves of pleasure. In the same year, Apple CEO Steve Jobs personally presented him with an iPhone 4 smartphone the day before the official premiere of the phone in the United States.
      2. 0
        16 May 2013 00: 05
        Quote: treskoed
        Already "driven". Fursenko was kicked out to Skolkovo. Now he is a curator !!!


        Yeah, Skolkovo is now definitely only used for cutting the budget ... Fursenko was the Minister of Education and Science. Education collapsed, now it's the turn of science!
    3. +5
      15 May 2013 09: 13
      It is necessary to drive Lebanon, Fursenok, etc. Is this an appeal to us? or to whom? or just a sound?
      And you, for example, control what textbooks your children study in? Have you discussed providing the right books at your school?
      Control yourself according to what materials children learn, if the state cannot. This is not difficult at all, and if the director says that it is included in the training program and she does not have the right to change the program, then you know how to answer her, but you can correctly explain to her - what is good in history and what a blatant lie? You are an educated person! Well, even if your LITERATED arguments are missing from her, then you have the right to file a lawsuit in the local branch of the Ministry of Education that the books that your children are studying contain distortion of facts, substitution of facts, generally lies, admiration for foreign armies, Well, the rest that you find.
      and the Fursens with Lebanon will have nothing to do with it; you can solve these issues locally, since no one will argue with distortions of history in textbooks. Well, or even if you want to change something in the school curriculum, then this can also be done. Through the court.
      And of course, it’s sad that up there they scored it at all, it comes around.
  2. +6
    15 May 2013 07: 18
    This is a long-standing policy of the USA, the joint (with the USA) historical series "Liberation" was banned by the Americans from showing on their territory. And you can watch their films, for example, "World War II in Color" about the eastern front of 2 episodes out of 13, about an African company of 3 episodes. Almost half of the series is about the war in the Pacific.
  3. Vanek
    +5
    15 May 2013 07: 19
    On the 65th anniversary of the opening of the second front, US President Barack Obama said what exactly the allies defeated fascism, and did not say a word about the role in the victory of the USSR.

    When, wife and mother-in-law came
    In intensive care to Petrov
    The head doctor thought
    What from coma
    It is not worth it to withdraw ...

    Hello to everyone. hi
  4. Vanek
    +1
    15 May 2013 07: 21
    Bake already burned head ...
  5. +3
    15 May 2013 07: 21
    [i] [/ i] In this "constructive" work, the United States uses the concept of "democracy" so intensely that it has lost its original content, and has become a basic element of the political technology used by the United States throughout the world, including against Russia. [i ]
    This merikatos democracy is so tired that it has nowhere else to go. They stuck everyone with their principles of democracy, and most of all, that they introduce without any twinge of conscience, although they always had a shame with conscience.
  6. 0
    15 May 2013 07: 22
    “A nation that does not study its history is a nation that is losing its identity.”

    Exactly. But why did the author casually "kick" the Battle of Rzhev, they say there were some battles of 1942-1943. They say it is not comparable with the Moscow and Stalingrad battles. There is also a "wonderful" conclusion:
    This is done on purpose, in order to form the image of the “Rzhevskaya meat grinder” in the minds of Russians as a symbol of the mediocrity of the Soviet command and its neglect of the life of soldiers.
    This "jarred" me and caused distrust of the author.
    1. explorer
      +3
      15 May 2013 08: 55
      ".
      Quote: Normal
      But why the author casually "kicked" the Battle of Rzhev, they say there were some battles of 1942-1943


      The author did not kick. He simply outlined the idea: that the "brewers" indiscriminately without detailed analysis - a long stage in the war consisting of hostilities of different degrees of success indiscriminately denote "Rzhevskaya meat grinder".

      And it would be worth saying in short: "A people who are not engaged in the study and protection of their history is NOT a people."
      1. 0
        15 May 2013 15: 05
        Quote: explorer
        The author did not kick. He simply outlined the idea: that the "brewers" indiscriminately without detailed analysis - a long stage in the war consisting of hostilities of different degrees of success indiscriminately denote "Rzhevskaya meat grinder".

        Brewers are of course fancy. I can't stand his crafts. But I assure you that it was not he who came up with the phrase "Rzhevskaya meat grinder" This phrase is stable in many settlements of the Smolensk Tver and Moscow regions. And in those where the battles took place, and in those through which the marching companies marched near Rzhev, and in those from where men were called up in 42-43. And if the "brewers" indiscriminately and without detailed analysis ", then the history of the Second World War generally bypasses and does not like to remember this battle. Supposedly there was no battle, but there were scattered and separated in time operations and battles. What kind of analysis is there. the number of troops, equipment and losses in the battles of the Battle of Rzhev exceeded those in the Battle of Stalingrad, or am I mistaken?
  7. Belogor
    +11
    15 May 2013 07: 23
    "What is the destruction of 28 million Soviet citizens? Why does no one in the world condemn this at least as much as the Holocaust?"
    Or maybe it is also worth making it a Russian (Soviet) "Holocaust" and adopting an appropriate law. Why are Jews better than Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians and other peoples of the USSR? Nothing! (IMHO) Moreover, if the Jews acted as a victim, then the Soviet people and as the winner of fascism.
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      +1
      15 May 2013 08: 21
      Long overdue!
    2. burn
      0
      15 May 2013 08: 58
      Jews must be demanded money through the United Nations. To the whole, the Soviet and Russian people from 1917 who staged genocide and plundered the Russian empire by their ancestors, the liquid Bolsheviks and the Kammisars ...
    3. stroporez
      +1
      15 May 2013 11: 17
      the "Holocaust" shop has long been privatized ........ and no one will let the Russians get close to such a sweet "freebie", because the bottom ........ syphilization will in any way hinder the growth of Slavic self-awareness. they derive the name "Slavs" from the slave-slave ........
  8. Vanek
    -4
    15 May 2013 07: 26
    But if the extermination of six million people is a universal tragedy, then what is the extermination of 28 million Soviet citizens?

    I may now say something wrong. For which I apologize.

    But After all, We fought, and Hitler destroyed the Jews - purposefully. These are different things.
    1. +3
      15 May 2013 07: 54
      It is probably more correct to say whether there was genocide of the Russian people, I think it was. This is the purposeful destruction of one part of the Russian people and the enslavement of another part.
    2. smoker
      +4
      15 May 2013 08: 37
      Yes, we fought, but if we subtract from 28 million. lost the loss of the Red Army, it remains almost 20 million. civilian population, what is it called ??
      1. Vanek
        +4
        15 May 2013 08: 41
        I apologize again. And I admit - it’s wrong.
      2. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        -2
        15 May 2013 11: 31
        The whole question is that we attribute these 20 million to the victims of fascism and some say that half of the 20 million are Stalin’s camps ..... such a story ... there is no consensus on how many of them really died in the camps and dungeons of the NKVD .. archives are closed .. hence the discrepancies ...
        1. 0
          15 May 2013 15: 20
          In total, a little over 700000 people were repressed, a lot, but these are not millions, as you write.
    3. Kaa
      +3
      15 May 2013 09: 21
      Quote: Vanek
      But After all, We fought, and Hitler destroyed the Jews - purposefully. These are different things.
      And the civilians of the USSR (16-20 million, according to various estimates, excluding the Red Army) also fought, or were they "hooked" along the way? Those 6 million, which we are talking about, by the way, are also citizens of the countries that fought with Germany, most of them are France, Poland, and ... the USSR! How to deal with this? And with the official doctrine "Ost" in relation to the Slavs?
      1. 0
        15 May 2013 15: 38
        Combat losses of the Red Army 11000000 people.
        Wehrmacht combat losses of 9000000 people (losses from the beginning of 1945 until the end of the war were not taken into account due to lack of accounting).
        Total losses of the civilian population of the USSR amounted to 17000000 people. Who dares call it NOT genocide?
    4. +2
      15 May 2013 10: 11
      really not that
      how many of the 28 civilians were also intentionally killed, besides, thank God we are not in Israel and for denying or doubting the Holocaust, they will not put me on trial, there are already enough evidence casting doubt on the figure of 6 million
    5. +1
      15 May 2013 11: 50
      Consider, let's say, the "triumphal arch" Erich Maria Remark if I'm not mistaken and you learn amazing things, it turns out that the whole of Europe returned Jewish fugitives to Hitler, no matter what they thought. According to some reports, Hitler even opposed the physical destruction of the Jews, he just wanted to expel them, but ... someone decided otherwise.
      I am silent that Hitler is also on air.
    6. luka095
      0
      15 May 2013 13: 48
      In the USSR, the Nazis carried out the Ost plan. According to this plan, in fact, the SOVIETs were destroyed, regardless of nationality.
  9. +2
    15 May 2013 07: 28
    Well, how interesting did the Americans win? When they opened the second front, we already drove the Nazis back. How do they like to attribute strangers to themselves.
  10. +6
    15 May 2013 07: 35
    I do not understand, but who makes a great figure out of Vlasov? A normal person will not do this, and an ignoramus, who regularly registers on the website here and is proud of Vlasov's ROA, because his relative fought there “heroically”.
    The rest on the site are normal people, although with different outlooks on life, but they are united in history.

    The mistake of our leadership, including Putin, that he personally says that we have democracy, we value democracy and all that sort of thing. Young people look and think, but in the West there is also democracy, maybe it is more correct. Brainwashing is easy, especially if you take an example from a country that is 240 years old. We have our own history, our own culture, and all state policy should be directed towards this. Young people should have pride in their country, with an appropriate attitude to history. But for now, the value is to earn money, buy a car and go to a club for a good club. There is no time left to study the history of our own country, and then it’s boring to read books. This is what they use to the full in the West, but here we are silent request
    1. stroporez
      +2
      15 May 2013 11: 24
      in Soviet times, it was specifically defined ---- "family is the unit of society." PPC, who destroys the family --- he destroys society. and many real measures were applied to such (local council, party committee, trade union committee, etc., up to comradely ships) and now !! ?? the current government does not need a family of nafik. need a herd of "taxpayers". what a nafik "study of history" !! ??? those who do not remember kinship are much easier to steer ..........
  11. mogus
    +4
    15 May 2013 07: 38
    at all times
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  12. mogus
    +4
    15 May 2013 07: 53
    it all started like this
  13. Vladomir
    +10
    15 May 2013 07: 58
    Americans distort everything. Until recently, they did not open a second front in order to cash in on supplies from both Russia and Germany, and so that Germany and the USSR would grind each other more. And when they saw that the Soviet Army would win without them, ONLY in August 1944 they opened a second front to snatch their part of Europe and cling to the Great Victory of the Russians!
    1. AdAAkRuSS
      +5
      15 May 2013 08: 28
      From this position, they should teach the history of the Second World War in our schools.
      1. Belogor
        +4
        15 May 2013 09: 11
        Teach from the standpoint of truth and patriotism. Although it is true and not very pleasant, it seems that the bright side of the history of Russia (USSR) was much greater.
    2. +8
      15 May 2013 09: 41
      And to ask the USSR to help them break the Japs, otherwise they would have fought with the Yaps before the Chinese Easter.
    3. rainer
      -3
      15 May 2013 11: 12
      In August? And I thought that June 6, 1944? and what did the USA supply Germany if they were at war with them? And the question is what would our doctors do without penicillin, which was not produced in the USSR?
  14. mogus
    +4
    15 May 2013 08: 03
    all this is a sequel from the 90s. Once upon a time, foreigners were "rubbed in" that only they were "white people", but in Russia they were "barbarians". Now there is no "iron curtain" and they are trying to "rub in" it to us.
    After all, the "barbarian" is not a pity, he is not an equal. And so that we ourselves renounce our past, history, and ancestors. There is no connection between generations, there is no clan and country ...
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  15. SCS
    SCS
    +2
    15 May 2013 08: 12
    all these pro-Western and Amer’s attempts to adjust and fake historical facts for themselves, and much more, are already so ridiculous and pathetic that they are not taken seriously! but here children and teenagers can be confused, but those who are interested will get to the bottom of the truth!
    yes, their "propaganda" had and still has its fruits, such as undermining family and moral values! mat. well-being and an idle lifestyle came out and for some people still come to the fore, and then, perhaps, family and children! although I observe that these Western rules do not take root with us! many began to boldly create families, give birth to children in the first place (as it always was, because the time has come, not the opportunity), and on the way to think about other benefits, because if you wish, you can and should cope with all the difficulties anyway!
    so that all the works of their "ideologues" and "propagandists" collapse and fall!
    Russia is reborn !!!! good
  16. +2
    15 May 2013 08: 16
    It’s an excellent article. You can only wish the author to refer to the West less, do not make excuses, prove something in response. It is enough to note the existence of a Russian threat from the Russophobia forces and the need for a systematic and consistent set aside of the truth about the history of Russia. All should be involved in this process state institutions, this should be state policy, otherwise their inaction can be regarded as criminal negligence, failure to fulfill their duties to protect the interests of the country. The reason for the death of the Russian Empire and the USSR lies precisely in the fact that the fight against destructive ideologies and their guides was not given due attention. Will the significance of this task in modern power structures be understood, only the future of Russia depends on this (not from the West), its integrity , the general direction of development; they recognize, preserve history and Russian ideology, preserve the strength, will and energy of the Russian people, which will provide Russia with a great future.
  17. AdAAkRuSS
    +2
    15 May 2013 08: 16
    Quote: Vanek
    But if the extermination of six million people is a universal tragedy, then what is the extermination of 28 million Soviet citizens?

    I may now say something wrong. For which I apologize.

    But After all, We fought, and Hitler destroyed the Jews - purposefully. These are different things.

    Quite right: “something is wrong.” We are just meat, and they are God's chosen ones. Is there a difference purposefully or aimlessly? Or maybe 28 million Soviet people are nothing compared to 6 million God's chosen ones? We are people just like them , you cannot grieve for some and forget others! This is bestiality.
    1. Vanek
      +3
      15 May 2013 08: 38
      By the way, I apologized, and you were rude.

      I don’t forget anyone. I have Jews in my relatives (well, there, almost the seventh water on jelly, (uncles, aunts second cousins) but none the less - there are).
      1. AdAAkRuSS
        +2
        15 May 2013 08: 50
        I apologize for what I am rude to you? I am glad for you that there are Jews in your relatives. Maybe again, the murder of 6 million Jews is a crime, but no more than 28 million Soviet people (with most of the Slavs).
        1. Vanek
          0
          15 May 2013 08: 58
          Quote: AdAAkRuSS
          This is bestiality.


          Just hooked on this moment. I just took it personally. Nothing personal.
      2. AdAAkRuSS
        0
        15 May 2013 08: 56
        If you meant the phrase: this is bestiality. This is not for you, but in the general context of the problem raised.
      3. Dima67
        +1
        15 May 2013 10: 29
        Quote: Vanek
        By the way, I apologized, and you were rude.

        I don’t forget anyone. I have Jews in my relatives (well, there, almost the seventh water on jelly, (uncles, aunts second cousins) but none the less - there are).

        Hello everyone. This is what I want to say. I don’t have any Jews in my family, though not a little is mixed. But after all, many Jews fought in the Red Army, not only as political workers. There were real war veterans. Against the general background, of course, there were few of them, but they were. I do not want their dead and can still hawit the living. Do not confuse \\\\\\\ with Jews who fought in the Second World War. Maybe someone does not agree but this is my opinion. Although I haven’t gotten into modern Israel. Too cunning children of David.
        1. +1
          15 May 2013 12: 19
          But after all, many Jews fought in the Red Army

          Probably a lot, only mostly far away from the front line, and the bulk of the people clogged in Tashkent in general. Of course, there are no statistics here, but there are tendencies + memoirs of war veterans + our observation of them in life. And yes, in the USSR, among them there were enough people with a capital letter. I think they weren’t even cut off (lucky) smile .
  18. +3
    15 May 2013 08: 27
    Ascribing to oneself other people's merits is a complex of a mentally unhealthy person.
    The Americans in World War II were sharply reckoned because of their policy of waiting (opening the 2nd front), deception and betrayal (a possible turn of the remaining German divisions against the Soviet troops), an atomic bomb on civilians ...
    Now they are trying to hide everything. But the stink remains.
    And yet, Indeed, I agree with the author, a person (in this case, Stalin) is valued for the benefit that he brought to his country.
  19. +2
    15 May 2013 08: 36
    How can you resist the lies of the West - tell the truth, do not lie to your citizens from childhood to instill respect for their homeland, the exploits of grandfathers and great-grandfathers. We need textbooks, films, series, games, cartoons, etc. where truth will be reflected and patriotism brought up from childhood. Tolerance is not for us, it teaches us to look at evil indifferently, for it the fascists and communists are the same thing, fornication substitutes love, tolerance is not compatible with patriotism.
    1. burn
      +3
      15 May 2013 08: 51
      you write correctly, only our leaders of the country were saddled by \\\\\\\, the golden calf. Russia needs a dictator, the monarch, so that these stationery rats run across the ship ...
      1. +7
        15 May 2013 09: 46
        Correctly! So I think how much Stalin needs to restore the Power of the Power
        1. +3
          15 May 2013 10: 38
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          So I think how much Stalin needs to restore the Power of the Power

          One is enough, but PRESENT!
          1. +1
            15 May 2013 11: 42
            the problem is not only in the leaders, there is such a disease when a person does not feel pain, Russia now suffers from it all.
            we don’t want to take part in its fate ourselves, the EP GDP is to blame for everything, or someone else who doesn’t repair the bridge in the village of Nizhniye Govnyukino (grandmothers allocated for quiet settlement or district authorities sp..li) Putin is to blame, but that he doesn’t guessing the existence of such a village is not important, he has a normally allocated bridge on his papers, and a resident of the village unsubscribe to the top or report to scrap.
            So we sit, we don’t inform you at the top, I don’t know, but everything in ...
            1. +2
              15 May 2013 12: 08
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              , and a resident of the village, unsubscribe to the top or report to the scrap.

              Aha! And then these residents will be put to shame, for "denouncing" and remember the Stalinist times, and 37, and then the OFFICIAL REMAINING IN HIS PLACE will also take revenge on these people. That is why they are silent. Internal policy must be changed, people's control must be returned, elected locally. So the results of this control could already become a real document that could be sent to all instances. Only here is something people do not want to introduce control.
              1. 0
                15 May 2013 12: 45
                Quote: Egoza
                Aha! And then these residents will be put to shame, for "denouncing" and remember the Stalinist times,

                listen, well enough already, they won’t attach. do not shoot, do not put
                sorry for being rude, but if you don’t have the courage to get your tongue out of your ass, then don’t yell about bad government.
                no one wants to try, but everyone shouts that they will not learn.
                who will shoot you for reporting a bad transformer, lack of communication, etc.
              2. 0
                15 May 2013 12: 48
                Quote: Egoza
                Therefore, they are silent. Internal politics must be changed, popular control returned, elected locally. So the results of this control could already become a real document, which could be sent to all authorities

                Apparently you are not at all aware of the topic, the reaction to appeals to the same reception office of the GDP through no fully justifies itself, and the result appears and begins to do, but it is easier for you and people like you to say that it will not work out or say that "to the pillory will bind ", then sit in your village lower shit and do not whine
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  20. +4
    15 May 2013 10: 10
    You know, you probably don’t need to give so much attention to what is in the west and who once again said ... It’s not worthwhile to engage in polemics about the Second World War with them. I mean, there can’t be any discussion on this topic! This is akin to excuses, but they must justify themselves!
    We all and not only we know that for Americans, there is an equal sign between history and Hollywood. They believe that by saving Private Rain, they defeated fascism in passing ... Well, just smile condescendingly! May they be proud of fairy tales and films, may Rimbaud be awarded the title of US hero and the streets be called after him ...
    You and I know who won this most terrible war, we know when the "winners" opened the 2nd front, we know who threw the pq-17 convoy and from whose ships they were sympathized - TRAITORS and we know whose banner fluttered over the defeated Berlin and we know whose soldiers went all over Europe in all directions and more than once! We should have gone further! It will be necessary - they will go and reach!
    Our business with you, so that our children and grandchildren would know about it and be proud!
    Our pride and historical memory in each of our families, in old photographs and in the stories of veterans, our grandparents. The blood of the victors flows in our veins!
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  22. +2
    15 May 2013 11: 32
    Add to that figure another six million victims of the Holocaust

    How long can the Zionist lie be repeated? All over the world, people who have only doubted this figure under the pressure of the facts and who dared to voice it are sent to prison. According to some reports, only about a million Jews died at the hands of the Nazis. Now, when it is known how many Jews were in the fascist army, that Hitler was financed by Jews, that the Jews themselves prevented the exodus of Jews from Germany, knowing perfectly well what fate was in store for them and maybe organizing it, when it is known that all the incineration furnaces physically could not burn so much people even with round-the-clock and year-round "work", not to mention that the Jews in the concentration camps were a minority, and so on.
    How many small-shavens can be called great, what is their greatness? In cruelty, in deceit, in cynicism?
    What do you call tourists from Europe and Africa Americans, then who sits on reservations?
    The computer fenyu is carefully licked away from the USA, their fenyu is repeated for venal politicians: starting from labeled pluralism, consensus and ending with today's vaccine strike, I don’t remember healthy competition and try not to remember all this wow-oh.
    It's time to understand that this verbal n-nose forms our worldview!
    How long?
    1. Dima67
      0
      15 May 2013 14: 01
      Quote: Ivan.
      The computer fenyu is carefully licked away from the USA, their fenyu is repeated for venal politicians: starting from labeled pluralism, consensus and ending with today's vaccine strike, I don’t remember healthy competition and try not to remember all this wow-oh.
      It's time to understand that this verbal n-nose forms our worldview!
      How long?

      +++++++++++ good
    2. 0
      16 May 2013 14: 12
      I was hooked as a child, as it was, 6 million Jews were killed — this is the Holocaust, everyone knows about it, and no one will remember our Soviet people 28 million except us. Is it right, unless after that you will not believe in rubbish about the Zionist conspiracy
  23. 0
    15 May 2013 12: 08
    We know how the Americans fought, even reading Western historians it is clear that all that the Germans were able to scrape together in France was the defeated divisions reorganized from the eastern front, training tank divisions and the Maltsy from the SS Hitler Youth tank division, there was no air support at all. The Allies were unable to deal with these forces for six months in France, and then they valiantly scrambled away from them in the Ardennes. I read in some German memoirs that the Germans themselves believed that it was better to fight 50 Americans than 20 Russians. And then the allies were going to fight the Soviet army? Yes, after the very first battle they would have gotten in full and would have asked their mother. Of course, now some American asshole will write about Lend-Lease, but it accounted for only 5-7% of Soviet military power. And about the fighting qualities of American tanks of that time, I generally keep quiet.
    1. 0
      15 May 2013 16: 29
      Lendliz-4% of all weapons used in the Second World War.
  24. +3
    15 May 2013 12: 46
    Good article. We must still teach the history of RUSSIA, and not the history of tolerastov.
    Although it is worth considering that despite the small size, the help of our allies was important for us in the Great Patriotic War. One has only to remember aluminum and trucks. Yes, and gasoline for aviation, and even cartridges and stew, which we called "the second front". It all mattered. But this help, as you know, was paid. And we paid in gold. Now it is difficult to judge what and how it was during the war, but history must be written, and not rewritten, what they are doing in the west, trying to cleanse the black dog.
  25. +1
    15 May 2013 13: 15
    He who controls history controls the future. Unfortunately, we are almost hopelessly behind in this struggle. To the author for the article +. When communicating with peers, I wonder: even if our last Soviet generation (the border of the late 70s and the beginning of the 80s) sees many events in Russian history under a Western slope, then what to ask from later, born and raised in de (p ) of a democratic Russia.

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