Israel announced the elimination of 20 nuclear scientists in Iran, but not all experts believe it.

Israeli media, citing military command, write that the IDF Air Force attacked the day before rockets Iran's air-to-ground space research center. The materials claim that, according to Israeli intelligence, Iranian nuclear scientists were stationed at the center.

From publications:

The strike killed at least 20 Iranian nuclear scientists.

Iran has not yet confirmed this information. Middle East experts claim that such publications, the data of which cannot be verified or corroborated, are linked to "Israel's desire to quickly announce the achievement of its main goal." This goal is the destruction of Iran's nuclear program.

It's difficult to say whether this program will be destroyed or "like last time," but in any case, as noted in the Middle East, Benjamin Netanyahu's government is preparing the ground for a "declaration of victory." In that case, the US President is prepared to join him, as Trump has repeatedly stated that "Iran has already been defeated, its missile program has been eliminated, as has the Iranian Navy."

The fact that Iran is responding with missile and drone strikes is being described as "this is the last thing Iran has left at its disposal, but any day now, you'll see, this too will run out." Accordingly, the claims about a strike on nuclear physicists could very well be in the same vein.

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[Prisoner]

These organisms can lie like they breathe. They won't blush.

[Cympak]

Jews have demonstrated repeatedly over the past few years that they can quite successfully eliminate undesirable figures from Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iranian leadership and academics. So what stopped them here?

[Pankrat25]

What stopped them here?

Netanyahu has six fingers

[Prisoner]

And what about the reptilian? He can even grow seven fingers.

[usr01]

Quote: Captive

These organisms can lie like they breathe. They won't blush.

Well, if "Israel said so" - you have to believe it!!! The authors of the Bible, what's there...
"Not all experts believe" - ​​atheists and anti-Semites!!!

[bar]

Never do they lie so much as during war and after hunting (c)

[Felaret]

Perhaps they're looking for a graceful way out of the mess they've created. But Iran has said it will keep firing until all three of its conditions are met.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Felaret

perhaps looking for a way to leave gracefully from the porridge they themselves brewed.

There was no quick victory.
Just like last time - both of them hit who knows where and everyone won - it didn't work out either.
But the US and Israel have managed to rack up problems with Iran, their allies, and even within themselves. How long the bribed and duped will continue to believe that Putin is to blame for everything and that America has already won five times is unknown. But probably not for as long as they would like.
An unpleasant bonus for Trump is that the 60 days will eventually end, and it's becoming increasingly clear that things won't get any better. After 60 days, Congressional approval will be needed, and before 60 days, a ground operation may be necessary—a massive influx of coffins will begin arriving in America.
And then the Arabs soaked the floor with tears that it was squelching underfoot...

How can one not look for a way out... When everything is not just bad, but, frankly, shitty for America and Israel.
Whether the outcome is beautiful or not—it will be as it turns out. The media will then report how everything in Iran was destroyed and that America and Israel won.

And another uncomfortable question for Trump: will Iran simply want to up and stop everything, like last year, so that "everyone wins"? We'll see how much "Khamenei's ashes are knocking on their hearts"...

[bayard]

Iran's leadership has already declared, "Only we will decide when this war ends." So anyone can claim victory and leave, but Iran's attacks will continue. And if the US leaves the region ("I'm tired, I'm leaving"), Iran will go where the occupiers left to prevent their return. And of course, attacks on Israel will continue.

Quote: Zoldat_A

Let's see how much "Khamenei's ashes knock on their hearts"...

It's pounding at the heart of his son, who has been chosen for a clear, demonstrative, and inevitable revenge. Iran has already proven that it has embarked on the "path of the Long Will War." But Israel and the US are rapidly running out of SAMs. In a week or two, their SAM arsenals could reach rock bottom. And then Netanyahu (or his successor) will unleash their nuclear potential, which "doesn't exist." This is precisely where everything is heading and will inevitably arrive. Soon. And we must prepare for this, too. Nuclear weapons could be used against us literally any day now. That's why they attack Moscow with drones every day—to probe our weak points and deactivate our SAM systems. When everything is ready, those very same British Flamingos with nuclear warheads will fly.
Under these circumstances, Russia's Military Doctrine prescribes and obligates the Russian Federation's military forces to launch a preemptive strike against those who provided these nuclear weapons and all their allies. That is, against NATO. Without restraint or exception. NATO is de facto (and de jure as well) in a state of war (a proxy war) with Russia. Therefore, it is subject to destruction by a preemptive strike.
This is what the Russian Military Doctrine says.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bayard

And if the US leaves the region (“I’m tired, I’m leaving”)

"Merci, but it's impossible." (voice of S. Farada in the film "Formula of Love")
Leaving the region, "I'm tired, I'm a fly on the wall," means more than just a foreign policy failure for America. It's the END. It's petrodollars, and what America is like today without control over oil and, especially, without the power of the dollar—I don't even want to think about it. Everything Obama said about Russia being "torn to shreds," about a "regional power"—all of this will become true for America.

And, as terrifying as it is to admit, everything you said about nuclear weapons is a completely realistic scenario. Both for Israel and for us.
There's only one way to combat the Israeli scenario: if Iran succeeds in physically destroying Israel. How this can be accomplished without nuclear weapons, and whether the US will intervene on Israel's behalf with its nuclear arsenal—I don't know...
Things are no better for us. Even if it turns out that our Military Doctrine is not just a declaration, but a real plan of action. I've always said that America isn't ready to trade Rzeszow or even London for New York or Los Angeles. Looking at how Trump has bitten, at his current madness, at how much America depends on the outcome of all this, my confidence is shaking like a sore tooth.

It's getting scary. My father, sports, the army, and life taught me to fear nothing. And if you're afraid, you shouldn't run and hide, but rather gather all your strength into one blow and destroy the enemy. When it comes to nuclear weapons rather than a boxing ring, you fear not for yourself, but for the fate of civilization.

Whether there's a nuclear disaster or not, Trump's dream has come true – he's secured his place in history. He just doesn't understand the difference between "making history" and "messing himself into history."

[bayard]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"Merci, but it's impossible" (in the voice of S. Farada in the film "Formula of Love")

Just imagine this scenario. On Tuesday, Netanyahu is buried in Israel (and his death is officially announced as a result of a Persian retaliatory strike; German doctors couldn't save him). Then, with the missile defense systems running low on SAMs, nuclear weapons (which they "don't have") are unsheathed and strikes are launched. And on cities, at that. In response, nuclear warheads are soon launched against Israel and... whose targets are unknown, but very specifically aimed at the region's oil and gas infrastructure and production sites.
That's it. The Persian Gulf region will be eliminated from global oil turnover for 15-20 years. And the US, feeling a sense of accomplishment, withdraws from the region. All Middle Eastern bases and bases are withdrawn from Europe (NATO insulted the US by not coming to its aid and not supporting the war). The US leaves NATO but joins Australia and Southeast Asian countries to contain China. China loses Middle Eastern oil, Latin American oil (Venezuela, Mexico), and African oil. Maritime trade problems begin. The Straits of Malacca become difficult to navigate.
But the US is on the contrary - it ends up with not only its own oil resources, but also the resources of Venezuela, Mexico, a number of other LA countries, Greenland, Canada, Africa (at least part of the African pie) and... Australia (where would we be without it, since its resources need to be protected from China, and this also gives rights to the resources of Antarctica, which will also soon be on the agenda.
So much for the Energy Superpower, the resource backing of the dollar and the construction of the American or "Global" Empire named after Trump.
Trump really wants to avoid nuclear showdowns with us, but he is not at all against our (nuclear) showdowns with Europe and its island neighbor.
And this neighbor of Europe is now actively probing Moscow's air defenses with Ukrainian drones for a strike with nuclear-powered Flamingos. The idea is that we will retaliate against the US, while they (the demiurges) sit out the war in bunkers in New Zealand, Australia, and/or Antarctica. Many of them are probably already settling into their bunkers.
The year is just beginning, but it is already ceasing to be languid.

[Zoldat_A]

And I don’t argue - the scenario is COMPLETELY realistic.
You can buy a building site in a month or two and build it out in two or three years, but this plan isn't even for 10 years. Does Trump and the "Trump empire" have any?
As for nuclear strikes, that's something you can do tomorrow: "I've created chaos here, and you can sort it out yourselves - I'm off to play golf on the green grass..."

[bayard]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Do Trump and the "Trump empire" have them?

It would take 15-20 years (optimum) to restart the US economy, but a few months would be enough to cause problems and cut off competitors' access to most hydrocarbons. And yes, you can go play golf with your granddaughter.
When Gulf oil and gas volumes drop, a lot of good things happen at once:
- the price of oil increases by 2+ times.
- due to the oil shortage and rising prices, previously hard-to-reach and unpromising deposits (Arctic, deep offshore drilling, oil shale, bitumen deposits, simply oil deposits at great depths) are becoming profitable and justified. And the USA has all the necessary conditions, technology, knowledge and skills for such drilling and production.
Russia also has proven, very rich, but difficult-to-develop deposits of all the above classes. And their development and exploitation could begin in conditions of increased unmet demand.
Trump was lured into a trap by the British through Netanyahu and his ambitions to build a "Greater Israel." Netanyahu has already received his due and left this dimension. There's already talk of a funeral on Tuesday, when his death will be officially announced. Now Trump has an additional pretext to destroy everything in this region, and at the hands of Israel, which orchestrated it all and is guilty of it. Now they owe HIM! Therefore, a first nuclear strike from Israel is very likely and possibly very soon.
Trump's second benefit is the ass-kicking Europe and England, which refused to support and assist him against Iran. That is, they have been actively dragging the US into the war against Russia for the past few years, supplying and supporting the Ukrainian Armed Forces primarily at its expense, and when he needed their help, they REFUSED it and even condemned. And the Sumerian Clown is still making faces.
And what will he do with them?
Will he protect them from now on?
If you weren't burning with desire before?
Or will he simply whip them like worthless puppies, skin them three times for their willfulness, leave NATO and withdraw all American troops and bases from Europe?
It seems to me that such a result of European madness and Trump’s rage is very likely and natural.
And he will take Greenland as PUNISHMENT and moral and material compensation for Betrayal.
And having withdrawn his troops from the Middle East and Europe to Australia, he will install his own governor there and incorporate them into the Trump Empire. This will be deserved and rational in view of the impending war with China. And all this could happen not just quickly, but very quickly. And all this this year. And having left NATO and, under the pretext of ensuring a security perimeter from the northern direction, he will also incorporate Canada into the Empire. There will simply be no one to resist there, and in the US, preparatory and legislative procedures are already underway to resume the CONscription into the US Army. In other words, there will be far fewer blacks and migrants in the Army, service in the Army will again become an Honorable Duty, and the Medical Commission will weed out all homosexuals and other deviant individuals. The healing of Society will begin with the healing of the Army. Trump's expansion, his territorial and resource acquisitions, will fuel social optimism, improve the health of the American economy, and significantly boost its weight. This is my analysis and the most likely scenario. Trump shouldn't be dismissed as a madman or a bungler; he has very serious plans. And very serious support. For the trap set for him, all those responsible will face such wrath and punishment that Netanyahu's fate (karma) will seem like a lucky escape and an enviable destiny. The harsh school of life that Trump has gone through... does not provide for forgiveness for traitors and enemies...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bayard

Trump's second benefit is the ass-kicking of Europe and England, which refused to support him and help him against Iran. In other words, they have been actively dragging the US into a war against Russia for the past few years.

I was just wondering—what if Europe had managed to drag Trump or the Self-Propelled Grandfather, or whoever, into a war with Russia? They were no less confident of victory than Trump is of a quick victory over Iran.
I don’t know how it would have turned out for us and America, for the fate of civilization - but the history of Europe as a geographical concept would have definitely ended there.

And having withdrawn troops to the Middle East and Europe to Australia, he will install his own manager there and include it in the Trump Empire.

Honestly, your idea is VERY interesting. I've never heard anything like it before, either on TV or online. But the plan is absolutely realistic! Perhaps, OUT THERE, NAVIRHU, someone here is already thinking about this, but they're just not telling us—God willing... I think the time has come.

And one more thing. And again, correct.

Quote: bayard

The harsh school of life that Trump went through... does not provide for forgiveness for traitors and ENEMIES...

I've been in this mess for over 30 years. First my father, then I, managed to build such a reputation that, like in the merchant idyll of A.N. Ostrovsky's time, people often take my word for it. But people also know that you shouldn't try to deceive me, because then not only will there be no conversation, but there will also be terrible revenge.
I think the basic "high moral" principles in business are the same in America and here. Generosity is always mistaken for weakness, and people immediately try to grab you by the neck.
Trump's "partners" have tried to poke him in the mouth several times. That's why he has no "brothers" now. So much so that the English, with their "permanent interests," are dumbfounded.

[bayard]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Trump's "partners" tried to touch his Adam's apple several times.

They've staged several assassination attempts on him in the last two years alone. And that's just what we know. And Trump doesn't forgive. So the Europeans' behavior in this latest mess could not only be the final straw, but also an excellent and obvious reason for the US to abandon NATO. Because not only are they not allies, but parasites, but also enemies—especially in their latest escapades with China. The British set a trap for Trump with the help of Netanyahu and Israel. Mother Karma has already covered Netanyahu with a hot frying pan, and as evil but informed tongues claim, the missile wasn't Iranian at all. So things will get tough now.
And since the US is preparing (or already has) a law on the resumption of conscription in the Army and instructions for its implementation are already being prepared... the US has many bright and exciting events ahead.
And naturally, during a period of such severe showdowns and transformations, Trump is not at all keen on a conflict with Russia, which, moreover, has recently acquired an absolute weapon of global significance. He needs to appease us now.
Well, and the Europeans will no longer get any of the weapons they covet - Trump now has His Own War.
And here in Donbass the land is gradually drying out.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: bayard

Europe's behavior in this latest mess could not only be the last straw, but also an excellent and obvious reason for the US to abandon NATO. For not only are they not allies, but also parasites, but also enemies.

It'll be interesting to see the European "poker face" if America tells them to go their separate ways. They'll definitely pretend they're "good enough" themselves.

Quote: bayard

And here in Donbass the land is gradually drying out.

For the first time in eight months, my son was able to send a couple of photos. It's summer already, damn it! Almost. And God willing, he'll be able to walk on this earth.
And here on the Volga there are still snowdrifts... Dirty, but they are there.

[OSE4Kinsura]

The murder of the spiritual leader of an independent country, a UN member, is a global precedent! Anyone can do anything! The hooligan has gotten out of hand, and now everyone has seen the true face of democracy and the vile liberal-Judeo-Zionist sect.

[your vsr 66-67]

This is the last thing Iran has left at its disposal, but any day now, you’ll see, this too will end.”

I've heard/read something similar somewhere before.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: your vsr 66-67

This is the last thing Iran has left at its disposal, but any day now, you’ll see, this too will end.”

I've heard/read something similar somewhere before.

Iranian officials say they have heard it nine times already.
I didn't count, but probably 4-5 times for sure.

[Egoza]

The strike killed at least 20 Iranian nuclear scientists.

How did they count them there? Were there no other people at the Iranian Space Research Center?

[Junior Private]

What does Israel expect? To declare a new Holocaust and have everyone pay for it? Times have changed. The Persians haven't started yet.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Junior Private

What is Israel counting on? Declaring a new Holocaust and making everyone pay for it?

Last time they showed photographs of the torture of Jews in Nuremberg and announced the Holocaust.
Will they show photos from Gaza this time? Or from Iran?

For those who like to reexamine the results of World War II and rewrite history, let's reexamine the war's genocide. Let's count the number of civilians exterminated in the USSR, for example. And I think the Chinese will support us in this. Perhaps then the Jews will realize that the Holocaust wasn't a purely Jewish invention?

[El123]

We discussed and talked about all this in Nuremberg. Do we need to do it again?

[Zoldat_A]

It's necessary. Because the Jews accustomed the world to their Holocaust, and now they're committing the same thing themselves. And because the genocide of the Jews is no more genocide than the extermination of Soviet citizens and the Chinese. The only difference is that we don't use this genocide as a shield while committing the same thing.

[flicker]

are linked to "Israel's desire to quickly announce the achievement of its main goal." And that goal is the destruction of Iran's nuclear program.

The process has begun and Iran, one could say, is already a nuclear power in five minutes.
And, by the way, it is precisely the presence of nuclear weapons in Iran that will be the reason for the Zionists to immediately end the war with Iran.
So, perhaps it was not the nuclear physicists who were killed, but Iran that is on the verge of announcing the creation of nuclear weapons.

[AdAstra]

In this case, I am inclined to trust the information of the Jews rather than the disbelief of some “experts.”

[Kinogeroi]

Are you hinting that the fascist Bibi has actually sprouted sixth fingers?

[aszzz888]

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In this case, I am inclined to trust the information of the Jews rather than the disbelief of some “experts.”

...do you have other options? .... And who would have doubted it!!! Call upon the warrior spirit to help...

[WIS]

Iran has not confirmed this information at this time.

This narcissist better not do this.
…look out the window, I'll give you some peas…
/TolstoyA/