Secrecy and obscurity: the crash of the American KC-135 tanker aircraft

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Secrecy and obscurity: the crash of the American KC-135 tanker aircraft
A KC-135 tanker aircraft takes off.


A KC-135 tanker aircraft and its crew have joined the US Air Force's list of losses in Operation Epic Fury. The relevant Pentagon agencies are currently investigating all the circumstances of the incident and seeking its cause. Official information about the crash is scant and provides minimal details, leading to various theories and speculation. Specifically, there is reason to believe that the aircraft may have come under enemy anti-aircraft fire.



According to official data


On March 13, just after midnight (Iraqi time), US Central Command (US CENTCOM) reported the earlier incident. At the time, only the most general information was released, without any further details. More details emerged later.

According to official reports, an incident occurred in "friendly airspace" at approximately 22:00 PM local time on March 12. As a result, a KC-135 tanker aircraft crashed and fell to the ground. The crash site is located in western Iraq. A second aircraft, the type of which was not specified, was able to return to the airfield and land. At the time of the initial report of the incident, search and rescue units were working at the crash site.

In its initial announcement, US CENTCOM noted that the aircraft crash was not caused by enemy action or friendly fire. This assertion was reiterated several times thereafter.

By morning, a photograph purportedly taken several hours earlier at Ben Gurion Airport in Israel had appeared on industry websites. It depicted a KC-135 aircraft with a damaged vertical stabilizer. According to various publications, this tanker had been flying alongside the downed aircraft and was also damaged in the recent incident. However, the authenticity of the photograph and this information has not been confirmed.


A KC-135 at Ben Gurion Airport. This aircraft is believed to have been involved in the March 12 incident.

On the afternoon of March 13, US CENTCOM reported the discovery of the bodies of four crew members from the crashed aircraft. The search for the remaining two pilots continued and lasted several more hours. Ultimately, the entire crew was presumed dead.

Pentagon specialists are currently continuing their work at the crash site and are likely examining the second aircraft, which managed to return to the airfield. They will determine all the circumstances of the incident, its causes, the course of events, and so on. The crews' actions will also be assessed, and depending on their findings, the pilots will receive awards or penalties.

It's unknown how soon the investigation will be completed. Furthermore, the timing of the public release of its findings is questionable. This is a military aircraft, and one that was involved in combat operations at that. All of this imposes certain restrictions and prevents the disclosure of all the information.

Possible reasons


The minimal official data gives rise to various estimates, theories, and assumptions. Some of these appear plausible and, at a minimum, do not fundamentally contradict known facts. Perhaps some of the current theories will ultimately prove correct.

US CENTCOM reports that something happened in the skies over Iraq, causing the KC-135 tanker to crash. The aircraft likely sustained damage mid-air, preventing further flight. However, the second aircraft was able to return to base. This was presumably a second tanker, and it also sustained damage, but much less severely.


KC-135 transfers fuel to F-22 fighter

The Pentagon denies enemy contact. If so, the damage to the two aircraft could indicate a collision for one reason or another. One tanker suffered only the loss of a vertical stabilizer, while the other sustained fatal damage.

Such a collision could have had a variety of causes. It could have been a crew error on one of the aircraft, an error by the air traffic controller, or external factors such as air pockets.

Central Command maintains that the downed aircraft was not exposed to fire. However, this does not rule out the involvement of a third party using some kind of anti-aircraft weaponry. Thus, one of the crews could have spotted the threat and performed an evasive maneuver. In doing so, they hit the second aircraft, with known consequences. There was no direct fire damage in this case, but the situation resulted in the death of the tanker.

Iranian connection


In the current situation, any losses of US and Israeli forces are naturally linked to Iran's activities and retaliatory measures. The loss of the KC-135 tanker was no exception. Corresponding theories quickly emerged, with detailed explanations.

Clearly, Iranian armed forces could not have shot down the American aircraft over western Iraq. However, a number of armed groups loyal to Iran operate on Iraqi territory. They cooperate with Iranian structures and are tasked with various missions.


Fuel transfer, view from the operator's workstation

On the morning of March 13, one such group, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, reported that its fighters had shot down an American refueling tanker the previous night. No evidence was provided, but the claim attracted attention. It deserves careful consideration and a thorough assessment of its credibility.

Material part


For obvious reasons, small groups lack full-fledged anti-aircraft systems and complexes. Their Iranian patrons only send them man-portable air defense systems and interceptor drones. These are primarily systems already in Iran's arsenal, such as the Igla or Misagh MANPADS, as well as the 358 systems. It's worth noting that missiles "358" regularly appears in fresh materials from the war zone.

The MANPADS used by Iran and its loyalist groups are not known for their superior performance. Their launch range does not exceed 5-6 km. Their altitude reach is 5 km. Hitting a tanker aircraft on patrol with such a MANPADS is, at best, difficult.

In this context, the anti-aircraft system with the "358" munition appears more interesting. Several variants of this SAM system are known, but they all have a similar design. They are built on readily available vehicle chassis and feature a missile launcher, as well as some electronic equipment.

The "358" missile has a cylindrical body and several sets of planes. Its length reaches 2,75 meters, and its diameter is 152 mm. Its launch weight is approximately 50 kg. The body houses an infrared homing head, control instruments, a warhead weighing approximately 10 kg, a fuel tank, and a sustainer motor. A solid-fuel booster motor is suspended from the bottom of the missile.


"358" missiles on parade in Yemen

Unlike other anti-aircraft munitions, the "358" is equipped with a turbojet engine. This engine propels it at speeds of up to 300 m/s and extends its range to 100 km. Its interception altitude is up to 8,5 km.

The control system has several operating modes. The missile can lock onto a target before launch or immediately after launch and then home in on it. In the second mode, the missile enters a designated area and begins a figure-eight pattern. Upon detecting an aerial target, the missile sets course for it. This mode allows the anti-aircraft missile to be compared to a loitering munition.

Iranian military and foreign groups have repeatedly demonstrated the use of the 358 missiles in recent days. Given the technical features and characteristics of such weapons, it can be assumed that, at least in theory, it is capable of hitting tanker aircraft.

Fog of war


Thus, a unique yet remarkable situation has emerged. Currently, only the incident involving the two American aircraft, as well as the crash of one of them and the death of the crew, are known for certain. The Pentagon is not yet releasing any new details, but unofficial sources and entities hostile to it are already publishing various reports.

What exactly happened over western Iraq remains unknown. However, all the details of this incident should be of interest to specialists and military personnel from various countries. They could reveal the mistakes made by the crews or the flight controller, or demonstrate the potential of enemy anti-aircraft weapons. For now, the proverbial fog of war prevails, and the situation remains unclear.
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  1. -1
    14 March 2026 04: 30
    The tanker crew is not provided with parachutes...we are falling...we pray to God before we die...save our souls.
    1. +9
      14 March 2026 04: 38
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The tanker crew is not provided with parachutes...

      They are included...but in the event of a mid-air collision or a sudden loss of control due to a technical malfunction, it is very difficult to quickly exit a falling vehicle.
      1. +4
        14 March 2026 04: 41
        Attached...but

        In 2008, the US Air Force decided to officially eliminate the mandatory use of parachutes on KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft. smile
        1. +5
          14 March 2026 04: 44
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In 2008, the US Air Force decided to officially eliminate the mandatory use of parachutes on KC-135 Stratotanker aircraft.

          Keyword - mandatoryDuring combat missions, parachutes are most likely on board.
          1. +2
            14 March 2026 04: 47
            Quote: Bongo
            During combat missions, parachutes are most likely present on board.

            In this case, none of the crew used a parachute...the conclusion is that there were none on board. request
            The commander's mistake.
            1. +7
              14 March 2026 04: 56
              Quote: The same LYOKHA
              In this case, none of the crew used a parachute...the conclusion is that there were none on board.

              Is not a fact... No.
              I know of cases where pilots of fighters and frontline bombers were unable to eject in emergency situations due to time constraints or high G-forces. Clearly, abandoning a distressed KC-135 is much more difficult and time-consuming than ejecting.
              1. +7
                14 March 2026 06: 57
                Quote: Bongo
                It is quite obvious that abandoning a KC-135 in distress is much more difficult and takes longer.
                I don't think it's even possible. During uncontrolled flight...
        2. +2
          14 March 2026 07: 25
          "In 2008, the U.S. Air Force officially eliminated the mandatory use of parachutes on KC-135 Stratotank aircraft." Whoever made that decision doesn't fly those aircraft. Too bad.
    2. +2
      14 March 2026 10: 40
      I'll tell you right away that catapults are a whole other story, everything is different and more mature there.
      At what maximum flight speed and altitude can a non-professional parachutist perform a jump?
      The speed is 300-400 km/h, and the altitude without oxygen is a maximum of 5 km. Furthermore, the aircraft must move steadily and in a straight line, that is, under control, otherwise the crew will not reach the hatch.
      In general, we either install catapults or... may God and the pilot's skill help us.
    3. +1
      14 March 2026 10: 54
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The tanker crew is not provided with parachutes.
      If you're flying on a commercial airliner, do you or the crew have an ejection seat or parachute? It's the same as an airliner, except that instead of an airline logo, this aircraft has a Pentagon star on the fuselage.
      1. +2
        14 March 2026 22: 13
        As Kozma Prutkov said, "Get to the root of the matter!" During military operations between the US and Iran, an American air tanker was destroyed after diligently "burying" its crew. Whether the cause was a crew error or the influence of pro-Iranian proxies is irrelevant! What matters is the result—+ in favor of Iran!
  2. +3
    14 March 2026 04: 34
    It's extremely unlikely that a KC-135 operating at medium altitudes was hit by an Iranian air defense system in Iraqi airspace. Even less likely is the use of the "358"—which is not actually a surface-to-air missile, but a turbojet UAV with insufficient performance to intercept an aircraft with a cruising speed of approximately 850 km/h and a maximum speed of 930 km/h.
    The KC-135 is a very reliable aircraft based on the Boeing 707, and more than 800 were built. However, a significant portion of the aircraft (approximately 360 units) remaining in service are nearing the end of their service life. The first KC-135 entered service in 1957, and production continued until 1966. The existing fleet has undergone several modernization programs, and the remaining tankers of this type are expected to serve until 2030. Currently, the KC-135 in the US Air Force is being replaced by the new KC-46 tankers based on the Boeing 767.
    1. -1
      14 March 2026 08: 00
      (approximately 360 units)
      I don’t understand these joyful squeals about the Americans losing one piece of equipment.
      King has a lot.
      Hello, Sergey!
      1. +4
        14 March 2026 08: 18
        Hello Anton!
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        I don’t understand these joyful squeals about the Americans losing one piece of equipment.

        Oh well, at least there's some joy for the fans of radical Shiites.
        1. +2
          14 March 2026 08: 29
          Basic arithmetic shows that the Americans can afford to lose KC-135s once a month until the end of the model's estimated service life. And there will still be plenty of them left! Only a deadline for casualties can stop this kind of "decommissioning." But then again, how many people have died flying Ospreys? No, they're still flying.
          1. +3
            14 March 2026 08: 37
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            Only a deadline for human losses can stop such "disposal".

            Yes
            Quote: 3x3zsave
            But then again, how many people died on Ospreys? No, they're still flying.

            In recent years, the accident rate of the V-22 Osprey has dropped significantly, and the aircraft itself is not bad.
            Regarding accident rates, we're fond of mentioning the F-104 Starfighter, which suffered numerous low-altitude crashes in Germany. But we forget that the accident rate of the first MiG-21, Su-7, and Su-9 was no less.
            1. +1
              14 March 2026 08: 58
              In recent years, the accident rate of the V-22 Osprey has dropped significantly, and the aircraft itself is not bad.
              "The V-22 looks great... when it's not down for repairs." (C)
              1. +5
                14 March 2026 10: 21
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                The V-22 looks great ... when it’s not idle to repair

                Now, the level of technical readiness has been improved, and Ospreys are being actively used not only by the Army and Marine Corps, but also by the Navy. For example, tiltrotor aircraft are replacing supply transport aircraft on aircraft carriers.
        2. +3
          14 March 2026 17: 27
          Oh well, at least there's some joy for the fans of radical Shiites.

          Unfortunately, there are quite a few of them here, and they show no signs of reflection. And the article, it seems to me, is a mere speculation on the topic, alas...
    2. 0
      29 March 2026 15: 04
      Refueling takes place at speeds much lower than the maximum
  3. +5
    14 March 2026 04: 43
    Well, yes. And the defense ministries of other countries hand you all the details of the incident right on a silver platter. Right away.
    True, in another scenario, such events are generally hushed up and/or not commented on at all.
    1. 0
      14 March 2026 11: 32
      I don't believe the theory of two planes colliding! These aren't the kind of planes that fly so close together, like the Swifts at an air show!
      1. 0
        29 March 2026 15: 07
        They can fly right next to each other. When transferring from one tanker to another. That happens.
  4. +3
    14 March 2026 04: 54
    They say five more fuel tankers were damaged at Prince Sultan Air Base...that's serious damage.
  5. +6
    14 March 2026 04: 57
    Good news! Minus two gas station attendants in one day – pretty good!
    If you add to that the three fighters shot down by "friendly" fire, the "matrats" have already lost five aircraft in 14 days of war! For the US, accustomed to bombing everyone with impunity, these are serious losses.
    The 358 missile demonstrated its worth in Afghanistan, when it shot down a CIA communications hub carrying one of the handlers responsible for the assassination of General Soleimani. The missile apparently received its codename "358" from the serial number of the American aircraft it shot down.
    1. +3
      14 March 2026 05: 07
      ,
      when she shot down a CIA communications hub carrying one of the handlers responsible for the assassination of General Soleimani

      Six CIA officers were killed, and Michael D'Andrea (aka "Ayatollah Mike"), who oversaw CIA special operations in the Middle East, was also eliminated.
      They caught a fat game...the Iranians took revenge for the death of Soleimani.
      1. +1
        14 March 2026 05: 17
        Quote: The same Lech
        ,
        when she shot down a CIA communications hub carrying one of the handlers responsible for the assassination of General Soleimani

        Six CIA officers were killed, and Michael D'Andrea (aka "Ayatollah Mike"), who oversaw CIA special operations in the Middle East, was also eliminated.
        They caught a fat game...the Iranians took revenge for the death of Soleimani.

        Yeah, that's exactly the case. hi
    2. +1
      14 March 2026 05: 08
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Product 358 demonstrated its worth in Afghanistan, when it shot down a CIA communications hub carrying one of the handlers responsible for the assassination of General Soleimani.

      Proof do not share?
      1. +3
        14 March 2026 05: 15
        Just type "CIA communications center shot down in Afghanistan" into a search engine and it will give you a bunch of material with photos of a downed American surrounded by local Taliban.
        By the way, yes, that is exactly the number on board, I just looked.
        1. +1
          14 March 2026 05: 18
          The only problem is that there's no confirmation that this plane was shot down. There's no point in spreading false information. No.
          1. -1
            14 March 2026 05: 21
            Quote: Bongo
            The only problem is that this plane wasn't shot down. There's no point in spreading false information. No.

            I read that it was shot down, so I "sold it for what I bought it for." Let the Americans prove it wrong, but what's the point to me? request
            1. -1
              14 March 2026 05: 23
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Let the Americans prove that this is not so, what is the point to me?

              The burden of proof lies with the one who makes a claim.
              However, how you treat your reputation is a personal matter.
              1. +1
                14 March 2026 05: 39
                Quote: Bongo
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Let the Americans prove that this is not so, what is the point to me?

                The burden of proof lies with the one who makes a claim.
                However, how you treat your reputation is a personal matter.

                Who am I to dismantle the well-arranged conclusions of their mattresses about the causes of their planes' crashes? This time, too, they refuse to admit that their tanker was shot down, and the aircraft carrier was forcibly holed, causing it to hastily leave the conflict zone.
                I'm not an expert and my entire database is exactly the same as yours, so there's no point in putting pressure on my reputation.
                Whether you believe it or not is up to you. I simply stated a fact that did occur—the loss of a US aircraft over Afghanistan. If you're not satisfied with the theory that it was shot down, give your theory that it crashed for technical reasons, and don't forget about your reputation.
                1. 0
                  14 March 2026 05: 59
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  Who am I to tear apart the well-constructed conclusions of the mattresses about the reasons for the crash of their planes?

                  And did they publish them?
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  This time too, they refuse to admit that their tanker was shot down and that the aircraft carrier was forcibly holed and therefore hastily left the conflict zone.

                  Do you have any evidence that this actually happened?
                  Let's talk only about what we can prove!
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  I'm not an expert and my entire database is exactly the same as yours.

                  That's right! And you have the same opportunity as I do to familiarize yourself with the characteristics of the Iranian "358" (Saqr-1).
                  Western intelligence learned of the existence of the "358" drone in 2019, after Shiite groups unsuccessfully attempted to use jet-powered UAVs of this type in combat operations in Iraq and Yemen. Following intelligence, the US Navy intercepted a cargo ship, finding parts of the jet-powered UAV and launchers in its hold. It is 2,75 meters long and 152 mm in diameter. Its dry weight is over 75 kg. It is launched from a simple launcher consisting of an inclined rail several meters long, using a solid-fuel motor over 1 m long, which is attached to the hull before launch. The drone is equipped with a 10 kg fragmentation warhead. Its range is up to 100 km, but the actual range without a repeater does not exceed 60 km.

                  The booster accelerates the missile to its cruising speed, after which it separates and ignites its compact turbojet engine. Given the shape and dimensions of its body, fins, and engine type, the missile likely flies subsonic when attacking its target. A combined method is used for target acquisition, and the missile is equipped with a universal television camera with an infrared channel, as well as data transmission equipment. Given its low flight speed, the jet-powered drone can be used against drones and helicopters. The warhead is detonated by a laser fuse as it passes close to the target. If an aerial target is not detected, the same missile can attack ground targets as a loitering munition.
                  Quote: Nyrobsky
                  If you're not satisfied with the version that it was shot down, give your version that it crashed for technical reasons, and don't forget about your reputation.

                  I don't know why he fell. But I value my reputation.
                  1. 0
                    14 March 2026 06: 16
                    Quote: Bongo
                    I don't know why he fell. But I value my reputation.

                    It's commendable that you value your reputation, but how do the missile specifications you cited prove the plane wasn't shot down?! Aren't you bothered by the fact that it was shot down precisely after Soleimani's assassination, and that the person responsible for his assassination was on the plane, quite conveniently. Who, if not the Iranians, was interested in bringing down the plane, and that the Iranians could have used their Iranian missile to do so? Coincidence!? It was just flying!? It just crashed!? There's no connection between these coincidences!?
                    That's it. Everyone sticks to their own opinions! The downsides aren't mine.hi
                    1. +2
                      14 March 2026 06: 51
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      But how do the missile performance characteristics you provided prove that the aircraft was not shot down?!

                      Do you recognize the type of "airborne communications center" that was "shot down"? While it's certainly not a "communication center," the Saqr-1, due to its performance characteristics, is only effective against UAVs and helicopters, and even then, only with the bulky transmitter required to maintain two-way communication with a kamikaze drone.
                      Putting aside unnecessary details, if I were tasked with destroying the aircraft (assuming I had reliable and timely intelligence), I would try to ambush it during takeoff, deploying several operators with MANPADS. Intercepting an aircraft after takeoff en route without radar contact is practically impossible, especially with a Saqr-1 UAV, which lacks an active radar seeker.
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      Just flying!? Just falling!? There is no connection between these coincidences!!!???

                      Anything can happen. According to the official version, a Russian citizen, high on cocaine, juggled grenades on board a business jet, which ended badly for him. I'd rather assume a technical malfunction (which happens) or sabotage.
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      Cons are not mine

                      I had no doubts! We communicated normally! And cons are for idiots!
          2. +1
            14 March 2026 17: 31
            Quote: Bongo
            The only problem is that there's no confirmation that this plane was shot down. There's no point in spreading false information. No.

            Yes, but some "patriots" either have a very strong desire to write false comments, or it's their job.
  6. +3
    14 March 2026 05: 23
    For Iran, martyrs/geraniums with I-V missiles would be very appropriate.
  7. +1
    14 March 2026 05: 30
    Quote: Bongo
    The burden of proof lies with the one who makes a claim.

    Hmm... it's a double-edged sword. smile
    Prove the opposite.
    1. +1
      14 March 2026 06: 02
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Prove the opposite.

      The burden of proof (onus probandi) generally lies with the party who asserts, not with the party who denies...This is the basics, it’s strange that I need to remind you of this.
      1. 0
        14 March 2026 06: 06
        Quote: Bongo
        The burden of proof (onus probandi) generally lies with the party who asserts, not with the party who denies...This is the basics, it’s strange that I need to remind you of this.

        Yes, yes...you can prove it in different ways. smile
        How many NATO generals and officers have died in the Alps and car accidents...no one can prove that they were hit by Iskanders and Kalibrs.
        In general, general rules should be treated as a double-edged sword. hi ...can be used in both directions.
        1. +4
          14 March 2026 06: 08
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In general, general rules should be treated as a double-edged tool hi ...can be used in both directions.

          Let me repeat once again: to avoid embarrassment, let's talk only about what we know for sure, and not about what we wish we had. I was trained to act exactly like that. hi
  8. -2
    14 March 2026 06: 08
    The aircraft's airborne refueling speed and altitude are 500-600 km and its altitude is 4 kilometers. In principle, any MANPADS could reach this combination of tanker and fighter under favorable circumstances, especially if the altitude is favorable. hi
    1. +6
      14 March 2026 06: 45
      Quote: V.
      In principle, any MANPADS can get this pair
      Refuelers fly only in safe skies...
      1. -2
        14 March 2026 07: 07
        Currently, there are no safe skies, no safe airfields, no safe seas, straits, or resorts in the Middle East. hi
    2. 0
      14 March 2026 06: 53
      Quote: V.
      In principle, any MANPADS can now reach this pair, both the tanker and the fighter.

      Would it be a bother to share the type? MANPADS capable of shooting down a target at an altitude of 4 km?
      1. -2
        14 March 2026 06: 57
        Russian MANPADS "Verba" and "Igla." Range: 6 km, altitude: 4.4 km. The "Igla" is even better, like a more modern system.
        1. +4
          14 March 2026 07: 28
          Quote: V.
          Russian MANPADS "Verba", "Igla".

          The Verba has only recently been exported, and it's unlikely that Iraq has systems of this type. The Igla has a ceiling of up to 3,5 km. Furthermore, it's important to understand that maximum altitude is a difficult parameter to achieve when firing at relatively high-speed targets, and MANPADS are not as simple a weapon as they may seem.
          And why do you think US combat jets refuel at an altitude of 4 meters? Typically, to reduce the negative impact of turbulence, refueling occurs at altitudes above 6 meters, typically 8-10 meters.
          1. -2
            14 March 2026 07: 33
            Who's asking the questions, Olga or you? All the answers are online.
            1. +3
              14 March 2026 07: 41
              Quote: V.
              Who is asking the questions, Olga or you?

              You in your repertoire ... wassat fool
              Quote: V.
              All the answers are on the Internet.

              Is it the "Internet" who writes this or you?
              1. -1
                14 March 2026 09: 30
                Why are you writing to me, asking questions, if you don't respect me and don't trust me? We have a hostile relationship; write to those with whom you have good or normal relationships. Only a common woman can become so attached.
                1. 0
                  14 March 2026 10: 27
                  Quote: V.
                  Why are you writing to me and asking questions if you don’t respect me and don’t trust me?

                  Because you are talking utter nonsense. fool
                  Quote: V.
                  We have hostile relations.

                  I have no relationship with you. No.
                  Quote: V.
                  Only a market woman can become so attached.

                  Are you judging by yourself? Military Review is an open resource; any visitor can ask another question. Or are you untouchable?
                  1. -1
                    14 March 2026 10: 33
                    Just answer me once and the idle chatter begins. What a clingy family.
                    1. 0
                      14 March 2026 10: 44
                      Quote: V.
                      Just one answer from you and the empty chatter begins.

                      So don't answer, and there won't be any "chatter." However, I've long known that you don't stand behind your words. What can you expect from someone who can't calculate the energy of a body given its mass and velocity, and who judges the state of American rocket science by the blatantly false stories of a political officer from fifty years ago? wassat
                      As for Olya, when I return home, I will tell you that you remembered her. lol Let trouble lie before it sets in! wink
                      1. -1
                        14 March 2026 11: 05
                        I sympathize with you; it seems you're also henpecked, since you're using Olya as a cover. Can you even calculate your body's energy levels yourself? Since you're so fixated on it. hi
                      2. +2
                        14 March 2026 11: 25
                        Quote: V.
                        I sympathize with you, it looks like you're also henpecked, since you're hiding behind Olya.

                        Very funny! good
                        Frankly speaking, I didn’t expect that I could be amused by a man who consumed an awl without measure and showed his ass to flying jets! laughing
                        Quote: V.
                        Can you calculate the body's energy yourself?

                        Actually, yes, unlike you, I can. The formula isn't complicated; if I remember correctly, you were taught it in fourth-grade physics. But for some reason, you refused to calculate it, or did that never happen?
                      3. -1
                        14 March 2026 16: 05
                        I heard you missed me?
                        Quote: V.
                        I sympathize with you, it looks like you're also henpecked.

                        If anyone needs sympathy, it's the one you see in the mirror. My husband and I have a completely harmonious relationship! Even if I wanted to, it's impossible to force him under my thumb. And frankly, judging by your statements, you're a very primitive character! negative
  9. +1
    14 March 2026 06: 12
    Quote: Bongo
    Let's talk only about what we know for sure, and not about what we would like.

    Yes, I would be happy to... but the problem is that my sources of information are from those permitted by Roskomnadzor... there are no others.
    I don't have any special intelligence services or analytical departments either. I rely on the information garbage our legislators allow us to feed on. smile
    Please forgive me...if something is wrong. hi
    1. +5
      14 March 2026 07: 05
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Yes, I would be happy to... but the problem is that my sources of information are from those permitted by Roskomnadzor... there are no others.

      Our internet isn't completely isolated yet, and Yandex Translate still works. For example, I often use Chinese sources when preparing publications.
      1. +1
        14 March 2026 07: 11
        Quote: Bongo
        For example, when preparing publications, I often use Chinese sources.

        The Chinese are hard to read...they have a unique way of presenting information. smile
        I really hope that they won't cut off our last links to the outside world...otherwise we'll be sitting like fish in an aquarium...without any way to understand what's going on outside of it. hi
        Unfortunately, there is a tendency for information flows in Russia to deteriorate.
        1. +6
          14 March 2026 07: 23
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          The Chinese are hard to read...they have a unique way of presenting information.

          I agree, it's not easy! But what's stopping you from reading Serbs or Bulgarians?
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Unfortunately, there is a tendency for information flows in Russia to deteriorate.

          This is indeed true, but information is like water; it will always find a crack.
          1. +1
            14 March 2026 07: 26
            Quote: Bongo
            But what prevents you from reading Serbs or Bulgarians?

            Information is like water, it will always find a crack.

            To be honest, I haven't yet thoroughly studied the possibilities of bypassing censorship in our country...of course they exist...I feel like it's time to do this. smile
            I'll use your tips.
        2. +3
          14 March 2026 17: 54
          Unfortunately, there is a tendency for information flows in Russia to deteriorate.

          Well, even Oleg Tsarev writes:
          Russia has overtaken China. But there's a catch.
          We are talking about the scale of blocking on the Internet.
          In China, the largest study to date has found that the "Great Firewall" blocks approximately 311 domains.
          In Russia, in 2024 alone, authorities restricted access to more than 417 websites, with approximately 523 resources blocked in total.
          And this is despite the fact that the population of the PRC is almost ten times larger than ours.

          https://t.me/olegtsarov/40552#
  10. +5
    14 March 2026 06: 41
    The installation of an ejection seat, like the mere presence of parachutes on board, depends on the likelihood of an aircraft crash. This aircraft is designed to fly in safe airspace. And if you look at the statistics, you'll easily see that, among most aircraft in civil aviation, there are very, very few accidents. KC 135 - the same civilian passenger plane, only tailored for military purposes and the presence of parachutes on board is not considered necessary

    But even if there was a parachute on board, in any uncontrolled flight, even if you managed to put on a parachute, it would be extremely unlikely to reach the lower hatch, open it, and exit the plane without being struck by some part of it. Therefore, many greatly overestimate the likelihood of surviving an aircraft like this if any irreversible damage occurs. P.S.. To be fair, our Il-76s do have parachutes, but I seriously doubt the crew can use them...
    1. -1
      14 March 2026 10: 58
      "Safe airspace" is a broad concept.
      If there are two or three (or maybe even three or four) tankers distributing fuel in the sky, it is no longer safe airspace.
      How often did the Yankees practice simultaneous refueling from two or three sides?
      1. +6
        14 March 2026 17: 52
        Quote: Simple
        "Safe airspace" is a broad concept.
        Safe airspace is not a legal term, but it is also inextricable. The crew is guided by airspace regulations and flight operations, taking into account safe altitudes, speeds, danger zone limits, and the range of friendly fighters requiring refueling, as well as enemy air defenses. And, of course, a detailed study of the area is required at all stages of the flight route. Therefore, the presence of a tanker aircraft, as well as the refueling itself, is prohibited in cases involving violations of regulatory requirements and safety measures. I'm sure the US Air Force is guided by exactly the same requirements.Well, or something like this...
        Quote: Simple
        If there are two or three tankers distributing fuel in the sky, it is no longer safe airspace.
        The street is also an unsafe airspace - a brick could fall on your head... wink
        1. +2
          14 March 2026 19: 03
          They described everything in a purely technically competent manner. I'll add one detail: the incident could have been related to the refueling of the "strategists."
  11. +4
    14 March 2026 10: 42
    One of the reasons for removing the parachutes from this aircraft was that after testing, all the dummies thrown out of the aircraft suffered serious injuries incompatible with life, the chances of jumping out of the lower part of the fuselage became zero.
  12. +2
    14 March 2026 10: 50
    There are a ton of options regarding the cause of the crash.
    If we take the photo of an air tanker with a clipped keel as a starting point, then it is a banal mid-air collision of two aircraft.
    But one can only guess what caused the collision.
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  14. +3
    14 March 2026 17: 24
    When there is no reliable information, but there is a great desire, then speculation on a given topic begins...
  15. 0
    8 May 2026 18: 02
    По барабану контора спишет все!