Syrian war, Russian missiles and international reaction

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Against the background of the civil war in Syria, a new diplomatic conflict may soon begin. Several strong states, pursuing their own interests, are trying to push solutions that are profitable for themselves at the international level. However, the plans of these countries often do not coincide or even directly contradict each other. In the past few days, Russia has also become involved in diplomatic events around the civil war in Syria.



The current events began after the publication in a number of American mass media, in which it was stated that Russia intends to fulfill its obligations under the contract with Syria and will supply it with the C-2010 anti-aircraft missiles ordered in 300 during the coming months (probably line "P"). In addition, according to The Wall Street Journal, obtained from Israeli sources, official Damascus in recent weeks has transferred to Moscow part of the total cost of the complexes, about 900 million US dollars towards future deliveries of four C-300 batteries. In this regard, third countries, first of all Israel, express concern and want the deliveries not to take place.

A very interesting fact is that publications about the planned supply of anti-aircraft systems appeared just a few hours after the end of the official visit to Russia of the American Secretary of State J. Kerry. During the visit, among other things, the Syrian issue was also discussed. No progress in this regard has taken place, but the countries have officially agreed to organize an international conference, during which all interested states will have to discuss the situation in Syria, as well as develop common views on the problem. Nevertheless, this conference is only planned for the time being, and negotiations with the participation of the state secretary have already ended without any noticeable results.

Starting from the first weeks of the war in Syria, third countries regularly declared their intentions to participate in the settlement of the conflict and to fight international terrorism. However, peacekeeping methods and country plans are significantly different. Some states suggest negotiating everything, while others insist on the beginning of the intervention or, at least, military assistance to one of the parties to the Syrian conflict. Moreover, a few days ago a certain country inflicted aviation strike on a Syrian object. Damascus suspects Israel of this, but he does not comment on the bombing.

Especially interesting in this context is the announced Western media. news about the Israeli request. Allegedly, the leadership of this country turned to official Moscow with a demand not to send anti-aircraft missile systems it had ordered to Syria. Such information can be interpreted in different ways, but the conclusion suggests itself that Israel’s desire to bomb Syrian military facilities in the future without risk to equipment and pilots. This conclusion directly follows from the fact that the Syrian insurgents still do not have any aircraft, and all aircraft that can become targets for the C-300, serve in the air forces of third countries.

The leaders of the United States agree with Israel. Shortly after his visit to Russia, US Secretary of State J. Kerry expressed agreement with the official Jerusalem that the supply of anti-aircraft complexes to Syria could destabilize the situation. At the same time, Kerry emphasized that such a destabilizing factor in the form of rockets primarily concerns Israel. According to the US Secretary of State, Russia should not continue military-technical cooperation with Syria, since this could have negative consequences for the region as a whole. Statements by a US official are of great interest in light of the recent attack by a Syrian military facility. Statements and an attack together can be an allusion to the specific attitude of the United States and Israel to the Syrian problem and how to solve it.

What is Russia? Last Friday, British Prime Minister J. Cameron arrived in our country. The main topics of his talks with the Russian President V. Putin, as reported, were the situation in Syria and related international problems. It is worth noting that Cameron’s arrival in Russia became known literally a couple of days before the visit itself. Probably, the issues discussed were so important that the British Prime Minister urgently changed the schedule of his trips.

According to the newspaper Kommersant, during the talks J. Cameron and V. Putin again discussed a possible conference on the problems of Syria. At the same time, it was not possible to reach an agreement on the composition of the participants in this event. Obviously, for the most effective work of the conference, representatives of the Syrian rebels should also participate. However, the opponents of B. Assad and the current Syrian government are not a single structure like a political party, but a group of various organizations with different views and goals that are united only by hatred of the existing government. In this regard, this question remains open: who should represent the Syrian insurgents? The UK and Russia, according to Kommersant, have not yet come to a common opinion on this issue and so far they offer various options.

Putin and Cameron nevertheless came to the conclusion that such a conference would take place in the coming months or even weeks. However, the President of Russia warned the British Prime Minister about our country's plans regarding cooperation with Syria. According to Putin, the Syrian military will receive all the military equipment they ordered earlier. Thus, it can be assumed that in the near future, at the international level, another issue relating to the Syrian civil war - the Russian arms supply - will be seriously discussed. In the context of such a discussion, you can again recall Israeli and American statements about anti-aircraft missile systems. Probably, the Russian C-300 for Syria will become a kind of indicator, with the help of which it will be possible with a high probability to calculate supporters of solving the problem through international intervention.

Now such a development of events seems unlikely, but it cannot be excluded that the Russian leadership, following the results of a mass of lengthy negotiations, will favorably agree to stop supplying air defense systems to Syria. But to achieve such an agreement will be very, very difficult. In addition, under certain circumstances, any new negotiations on this issue may make the situation less and less convenient for foreign countries. The fact is that the delivery of missile systems can begin at any time. Moreover, according to the information of the WND agency, received from the intelligence of one of the Arab states, the Syrian military have already become the owners of a certain number of missiles, launchers and other machines of the C-300 complex. If this is true, then within a few days or, at most, weeks, the Syrian armed forces will be able to significantly strengthen their air defense.

Fortunately for Israel, the United Kingdom, the United States and other countries that prefer to end the civil wars with open intervention, the WND information has not yet received confirmation from other sources. It turns out that the above-mentioned countries still have hope and time for further negotiations. Now Israel will be the first in the “queue” trying to convince Russia. A few days ago, the Prime Minister of this country, B. Netanyahu, and the Russian President, V. Putin, had already discussed some problems over the telephone. Now Netanyahu will personally visit Russia, where the discussion of the existing problems will continue. It is quite clear that one of the main topics of the negotiations will be the contract between Russia and Syria regarding the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems. It is noteworthy that several days earlier, with reference to its sources in the government of Israel, the newspaper Haaretz reported, and then this information was confirmed by similar sources of ITAR-TASS.

Will the Israeli Prime Minister succeed in convincing the Russian president? Hardly. Arms shipments to Syria have good reasons. This country is our partner in the Middle East, and besides it needs help, which, as it turned out, only a few countries can provide, whose policies differ from British, American or Israeli. The only significant lever of pressure on Moscow could be sanctions or an embargo imposed on Syria. However, according to Russian officials, none of the Russian-Syrian contracts violates international agreements. In this regard, the delivery of ordered weapons and equipment will continue in the future, and when planning further actions, some Western countries will have to take into account new anti-aircraft missile systems. It is possible that it is thanks to these systems that in the foreseeable future civil war will indeed end in negotiations, and not intervention.


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  1. Vanek
    +117
    14 May 2013 07: 15
    Well, this is generally rudeness. They support their "allies" (opposition) and ask us NOT to support their allies (Assad).

    Maybe I don’t understand something.
    1. +112
      14 May 2013 07: 21
      The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ...
      1. Vanek
        +11
        14 May 2013 07: 23
        Quote: Denis
        not back


        This is exactly what I understand.
      2. +31
        14 May 2013 08: 23
        Quote: Denis
        The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ..

        In this situation, for Russia, the inclusion of the rear is tantamount to self-destruction, IMHO, and Putin, of course, understands this. The West has no such proposals for which he would agree to retreat.
        1. -24
          14 May 2013 08: 56
          Quote: Prokop
          The West has no such proposals for which he would agree to retreat.

          And here you are wrong! Tell me at least one trump card in Russia's hands on the Syrian issue !? But our geopolitical opponents have more than enough of them:
          1. The collapse of the Russian army
          2. Russia's lack of approaches to Syria (geographically)
          3. Dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil, gas, timber, coal, metals, etc.)
          4. Russia's dependence on food imports and consumer goods (50-60%)
          5. The demographic crisis in Russia
          These are basic. It should be recalled that in the 80's, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a devastating blow to the economy of the USSR. What is stopping them from doing it now? NOTHING!
          Not the independence of our state on these indicators is cutting our foreign policy at the root. If we do not give in to Syria, then the West will ruin our economy, and the arrival of these gentlemen is most likely connected with an ultimatum to us. Either we shut our mouth or they begin to act. By the way, I forgot the most important trump card in the hands of the West:
          6. Our grandmothers are in western banks !!!
          1. Vasya Ivanov
            +47
            14 May 2013 09: 35
            Well, they have some advantages, but we can’t bend down further, the ridge will break. And the grandmothers in Western banks are no longer ours, as Cyprus has shown.
            1. yak69
              +28
              14 May 2013 13: 09
              Quote: Vasya Ivanov
              we can’t bend down further, the ridge will break.

              If the government surrenders to Syria, this will mean only one thing - we will need to prepare for a direct NATO invasion of our country. This may not happen immediately, but it will happen with 100% probability!
              The situation is like before the 41st year: war is inevitable, it is necessary to prepare for it. It is better if we wage this war on distant approaches - Syria, Iraq, Iran. And our choice is not great, either to fight or to surrender!
              Personally, I do not intend to give up. And the authorities would advise not to be afraid of anything and rely on the determination of our people to stand to death.
              1. +33
                14 May 2013 15: 35
                As Churchill once said before the outbreak of World War II in 2, after the Munich Agreement, when the war began with the help of dubious concessions to Hitler: "England was offered a choice between war and dishonor. She chose dishonor and will receive war." That is how Russia would not get into such a situation, yielding to our "friends". Enough already concessions to nicknames and their sycophants! It's time to show your teeth!
              2. +7
                14 May 2013 16: 07
                NATO will not invade us yet, it will begin to do this through jihad. Americans for 10 years have bred them already. and they will go to us. already go. Syria Russia does not have the right to turn in !!! we have good reason to keep a serious naval group there that will make a rustle if that. the main thing is that Uncle Vova does not flinch.
                1. +38
                  14 May 2013 16: 22
                  1. +4
                    14 May 2013 17: 07
                    Krasava! catch "+" for placing the video.
                  2. MG42
                    +10
                    14 May 2013 21: 25
                    commenting on the video good >>> <Russian bolt with left-hand thread> in this situation with the S-300 is a little associated with Khrushchev's "Kuz'ka mother", amers were in a panic only when nuclear weapons were in Cuba. In Europe and Nata, they got agitated and after the placement of Iskander in the Kaliningrad region = it is being covered in Poland with a copper basin then. One thing is clear = only force diplomacy is considered. The main thing is that Putin bend his line, and not like Medvedev in the case of Libya ...
                    1. rolik
                      +12
                      14 May 2013 23: 03
                      Quote: MG42
                      not like Medvedev in the case of Libya ...

                      Pah-pah, do not remember this ..... "man" for the night. I will sleep badly))))
                2. +2
                  16 May 2013 22: 12
                  that's just for him, d. VVP, I have very little hope!: ((We would now have a second such as Joseph Visarionovich ... then you look and everything would gradually get better, and yes, the "oligarchs" would move from mansions to cut the forest into the taiga. :))
                3. +1
                  17 May 2013 02: 25
                  What a serious maritime group. Look at the map. Who controls the straits.
                  What will happen to our supplies if They decide to prevent them, we have already passed through the example of Artic Sea.
                  The second problem is that this supply automatically leads Russia to participate in the conflict. Everyone understands that service and training specialists will go to the missile appendage.
                  So this is a very serious step.
              3. Bashkaus
                +33
                14 May 2013 16: 59
                Vo-Vo, right about the invasion. My son has 3 years, but it’s better now to grab a bullet in the sands of Syria than in a few years the army of homosexual bastards will literally come to trample my lands, rape my children and my wife, sisters and mothers.
                Enough, it's time to stop this scum.
                1. +6
                  14 May 2013 23: 12
                  Yes. I feel it’s time it’s time for Grandfather’s berdanka to get from the attic angry
                  1. 0
                    17 May 2013 02: 30
                    There are air flights from Moscow. Gathered and on the road to fight for Assad. What is the problem.
                2. vit24
                  -4
                  18 May 2013 00: 08
                  IMHO, no one will come to you. Your management will just sell you am Now they bargain and create, when they receive a favorable offer. am
                  1. +1
                    20 May 2013 20: 31
                    Oh! No matter how you washed your S-300 flyers. fool
              4. SASCHAmIXEEW
                +1
                15 May 2013 14: 03
                I support 100% +++++++++++++++++++++++++
            2. +9
              14 May 2013 17: 44
              I think that the presence of Syria C-300 in a compartment with ISKANDERS will significantly cool hotheads from an attack on Syria
              1. reichsmarshal
                +2
                14 May 2013 23: 22
                You are wrong. Syrian air defense, even with the S-300, still does not have a horizontal data exchange system and therefore is quite vulnerable to attack aircraft: break command posts - and 3,14Z yes! On the Golan Heights there are jammers of such power that even a three-hundredth one cannot penetrate them. However, the valiant Hel Haavir is pissed about using aviation: unmanned aerial vehicles (THOUSANDS OF THEM !!!) will do the dirty work, as in 1982. And the Iskander retaliation will only play into the hands of Israel: it will not affect the IDF's military capabilities at all, but will deliver a blow to the cities Israel will be in the position of an offended child and will open the way for NATO's invasion of Syria.
                1. 0
                  16 May 2013 22: 31
                  about jammers at the Dutch heights Are you serious ??? If so, then something is not fun ...
                  1. vit24
                    -4
                    18 May 2013 00: 15
                    Why are you only flowers and bushes love But seriously, the IDF is gouging the SAR army, that with the S-300, that without them. Question: what then to do with this? To pull up these Arabs to the level of Israelis is a lot of money to swell (the Israeli people will not understand), just occupying is also expensive and why is it for Israel?
            3. 0
              16 May 2013 22: 08
              Quote: Vasya Ivanov
              Well, they have some advantages, but we can’t bend down further, the ridge will break. And the grandmothers in Western banks are no longer ours, as Cyprus has shown.

              I agree to 100% !!
          2. +15
            14 May 2013 10: 00
            Quote: nycsson
            nycsson


            Absolutely true unfortunately! The politicians themselves have set up such a thing that now until we have completely scrambled ourselves out of the clutches of the West, we cannot dictate something to anyone. The former finance minister said correctly, coordinating measures are needed! 1) Nationalization of the Central Bank, 2) Departure from the raw material economy, 3) Transfer of foreign accounts in Russia, 4) Development of industry and agriculture.
            Otherwise, alas, Ah. As they say so, we will do it if we do not want to die of hunger. Because you can rely only on domestic food, you can safely stock up on stew and go to the village! Only there you can still survive.
            1. +3
              14 May 2013 20: 59
              Quote: Manager
              Absolutely true unfortunately!

              But they zamusnuyut me in full! laughing
            2. rolik
              +7
              14 May 2013 23: 09
              Quote: Manager
              The former finance minister said correctly, coordinating measures are needed!

              Are you talking about Kudrin ???
              It is amazing what kind of correct speeches some individuals begin to make when they fly off a warm chair)))) Ah-ah-ah, how impressionable they become)))) And didn’t Kudrin drive the state money into the mattress for storage? There, he said, it’s safer for them to lie. There the stabilization fund is in more reliable hands. Or was it not so ??? Now ask the Germans, where is their gold deposited with the mattresses? You know how many sophisticated German swear words you hear, very significantly replenish your German dictionary.
              1. +1
                14 May 2013 23: 38
                "Do you know how many sophisticated German obscene words you will hear, very noticeably add to your German vocabulary."

                By the way, in the German "dialect" you can not so much express.
                Russian in this sense is "more colorful". laughing
                1. rolik
                  +1
                  15 May 2013 09: 40
                  Quote: Simple
                  By the way, in the German “dialect” you can’t express so much

                  After such a bummer incident and a shameless kid, I think they have a couple of dozen more "shaise" lol
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +1
              15 May 2013 14: 09
              I wonder when it was said by the Former Minister of Finance, a fan of the West ???
          3. +16
            14 May 2013 10: 02
            Europe depends on the import of our raw materials more than we do on export, and they will ruin our economy without Syria for a long time, so nothing will change, could Russia have long been gone
            1. +4
              14 May 2013 18: 10
              because geyrops without gas, the butt will freeze in case of something, winter is now long and cold, and the butt will be needed - they won’t let it freeze ...
            2. RSNV.
              -6
              14 May 2013 21: 32
              You are mistaken, as it was in the 70s - 90s, now the situation has changed and not in favor of the Russian Federation.
            3. rolik
              -2
              14 May 2013 23: 27
              Quote: kot11180
              Europe depends on the import of our raw materials more than we do on export, and

              You still forgot to add that in ogossechennoy Europe a lot of enterprises belong to the Russians. So, we do not hold gas mites by the eggs, I apologize to the ladies (well, or whatever they have grown instead of them), but also by economic intervention.
          4. +47
            14 May 2013 10: 18
            In Western banks do not "our" grandmothers lie, there are already stolen money from us, from which our economy is not hot and not cold, they are already bye! As for the rest of the points - 1.the disintegration of the army is not what they are trying to show, - 08.08.08 Russia has clearly shown that it can give out to the Mordas without looking back to the West, 2.the absence of common borders does not interfere with supplying everything there with the help of the BDK and Aviation that we consider it necessary to supply Assad, again without looking back to the West, 3. dependence on oil and gas supplies - we already have 2 pipes to the East, so as in the 80s it will not be possible to bring down prices, since China is not going to " turn off "its industry, and Europe is no less dependent on our energy resources 4. Dependence on food supplies - food producers are also not eager to lose markets, just remember the story with mattress beef, how many squeals were 5. - demographic crisis - population decline has stopped , and to create a full-fledged Syrian air defense system, we are still in a position to produce the necessary weapons. And finally - that is why all the leading players in world politics are fighting for Syria, because Syria is the key to bringing down world prices for gas and oil, since the territory of Syria is a key node for the transit of Saudi oil and Qatari gas to Europe.
            1. -21
              14 May 2013 10: 29
              Quote: Andrey57
              population decline stopped



              Due to the flow of immigrants.
              1. +33
                14 May 2013 11: 25
                Quote: Manager
                Due to the flow of immigrants.


                Not only. The increase in fertility is caused primarily by the fact that children born in the mid-80s entered reproductive age. I will not look for birth statistics in the mid and late 80s because I myself remember that it was very high, based on the workload of schools and kindergartens. This generation, being children in the 90s, did not suffer as much as their parents, so it’s natural that compared with the 90s when a woman with a stroller on the street was rare now the situation has improved a lot.
                1. Sergh
                  +25
                  14 May 2013 12: 50
                  Quote: nycsson
                  overflow: 1. The collapse of the Russian army 2. Russia's lack of approaches to Syria (geographically) 3. The dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil

                  "Trump" was not even more stupid ... all your exports and imports, together with consumer goods, is the global interest of the whole world. The collapse in oil prices will no longer work categorically, because The United States will wash itself first with these slops, the money is not ours, but the gold at home. Amer only one chicken legs will dump half of the farm. But with demographics, I can't pinch myself on the "trump cards". So, what about consumer goods ..., the Chinese will kiss us for this ... poo, and they alone are capable (I have no doubt) to overwhelm us with everything that our soul desires, just choose.
                  You, a young man, perceive everything a little superficially or a clever provocateur! Now we have trump cards that are on hoses to Europe, and there may be a short conversation with the Saudis, you don’t even need to trump!
                  1. -5
                    14 May 2013 21: 16
                    Quote: Sergh
                    "Trump" was not even more stupid ...

                    I did not expect anything else from you .......
                    Quote: Sergh
                    all your export and import, together with consumer goods, is the global interest of the whole world

                    Yes, there is no interest. The collapse of prices is just around the corner, as well as the rejection of Russian gas.
                    Quote: Sergh
                    The collapse in oil prices will no longer categorically drive, because The USA will wash off first with these slops,

                    And why is that? They have their own oil fields mothballed + they switched to shale gas.
                    Quote: Sergh
                    But with demographics, I can't pinch myself on the "trump cards".

                    Yes, this is not surprising! You do not know that demography directly affects the country's economy. The ratio of the working population to the non-working (pensioners, disabled people, children, etc.)
                    Quote: Sergh
                    So that with consumer goods ..., the Chinese will kiss us for it ... pu and they alone are able (I have no doubt) to seduce us with everything that our soul desires, just choose.

                    That's for sure! Perhaps I will agree with you. It’s good that you didn’t stutter about food ........
                    Quote: Sergh
                    You, a young man, perceive everything a little superficially or a clever provocateur!

                    You flatter me! laughing I am just expressing my opinion, which is based on specific facts, but I don’t understand what your opinion is based on.
                    Quote: Sergh
                    Now the trump cards we have, which are on hoses to Europe,

                    Your hoses are already percent on 40 not loaded. It's only the beginning.
                    Quote: Sergh
                    and there may be a short conversation with the Saudis, you don’t even have to trump!

                    At the time, the USSR did not talk to the Saudis, but there is nothing to talk about today's Russia! Serdyukov did his best.
                    1. RSNV.
                      -5
                      14 May 2013 21: 30
                      Plus. In 2012, Gazprom lost 46% of the European gas market and this is not the limit. As for oil, the West Siberian fields are close to exhaustion, oil production is falling, but there are no real alternatives yet. see: http://www.rosbalt.ru/business/2013/03/04/1101723.html
                      Europe, if it wants to, can do without oil and gas of the Russian Federation. As for the current economy of the Russian Federation, this is one big oil and gas pipe, and that one, for the most part, was built during the Soviet era.
                      1. +9
                        15 May 2013 06: 36
                        Surgut says :))) Bury us early, Surgutneftegas is just starting to develop Yakutia tongue
                      2. stroporez
                        +3
                        15 May 2013 10: 45
                        he worked in NGDU, so our geologists said sales were doubling when mining was doubled, in Yamal this good for 80-90 years is enough ..................
                      3. +1
                        20 May 2013 20: 52
                        There is also a lot of gas and oil in the Arctic Ocean, so you rejoice early. tongue
                      4. +3
                        15 May 2013 07: 35
                        Quote: rsnv
                        Plus. In 2012

                        It's nice to read the opinion of a sane person. Unfortunately, the majority here have some kind of "patriotic idiocy" I would say. People are based on their subjective opinion. Although, it is enough to look at the statistical collection "Russia in Figures", other economic indicators on various sites, and everything will become clear. Yes, just type in the search engine "Problems of Gazprom", a bunch of articles on this topic will come out. These articles are written by fairly authoritative experts, etc. You just have to face it, and it's not that easy. First of all, you need to analyze the flow of information.
                      5. burn
                        0
                        15 May 2013 08: 10
                        Don’t hang noodles, arranging gundos, Russia will turn out of any position ...
                      6. RSNV.
                        0
                        15 May 2013 12: 05
                        Not Hami, Fursenko’s victim, with such diplomas as you, as if at all in a shroud did not wrap up.
                    2. Don
                      +2
                      15 May 2013 16: 44
                      Quote: nycsson
                      The price collapse is just around the corner

                      Well, of course. And of course, the largest oil corporations ExxonMobil and Chevron will allow this.
                      Quote: nycsson
                      as well as the rejection of Russian gas.

                      Everyone around is dumb one you are smart. And why, then, is Europe investing money in the North and South Stream?
                      Quote: nycsson
                      Yes, this is not surprising! You do not know that demography directly affects the country's economy. The ratio of working population to unemployed

                      And you generally know yourself about the ratio. In the Russian Federation, the economically active population is 76,4 million people. (June 2012) For comparison, in Germany 43 million people.
                      Quote: nycsson
                      I am only expressing my opinion, which is based on specific facts

                      What are the facts? Again this nonsense about the collapse of the army, about some kind of demographic problems, despite the fact that since 2009 the population growth, about oil and gas. So these are not facts, but your tales.
                      1. vit24
                        0
                        18 May 2013 00: 37
                        And why, then, is Europe investing money in the North and South Stream?
                        Are you sure that this is European money, and not Russian money laundered through Europe?
                      2. Don
                        0
                        21 May 2013 16: 17
                        Quote: vit24
                        Are you sure that this is European money, and not Russian money laundered through Europe?

                        I am sure. Because they invest private and state energy corporations in Germany, France, the Netherlands, with transparent assets, and not some small firms from Cyprus or the Bahamas.
                  2. +1
                    16 May 2013 11: 19
                    They forgot about Onishchenko, he trumps everyone and the Saudis too :))

                    Rospotrebnadzor tightens sanitary control over tourists from Qatar, the UAE and Saudi Arabia
                    .
                    May 13, 2013 22:11


                    Moscow. may 13. INTERFAX.RU - Rospotrebnadzor has strengthened sanitary-quarantine control at checkpoints across the state border of the Russian Federation in relation to citizens arriving from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, due to the complication of the situation with diseases caused by coronavirus.

                    "The Federal Service for Surveillance on Consumer Rights Protection and Human Wellbeing informs that the situation in the world has become more complicated with regard to diseases caused by the new coronavirus," - said in a message published on the website of the Russian department on Monday.
                    According to the World Health Organization, the report says, "since September 2012, in six countries of the world (Saudi Arabia, Cairo, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom) 34 cases of diseases with the isolation of a new variant of coronavirus have been registered, of which 18 have been fatal." ... At the same time, the disease was accompanied in patients with atypical pneumonia and renal failure.
                    The largest number of cases and deaths was recorded in Saudi Arabia (24 people, 13 of them died, including 9 in the last week of May). In other countries, the number of cases is from 1 to 3 people.
                    All cases of infection of patients, the report emphasizes, are associated either with their stay in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, or with contact with people with infection.

                    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/world/news.asp?id=306330
                2. +19
                  14 May 2013 12: 55
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  the situation has improved a lot.

                  I’m walking along the street recently, my soul rejoices:
                  We built a new skyscraper (!, A solution to the housing problem) next to the playground, do not push around (!) - mother-father with children walk. Moreover, children of the titular nationality.
                  All is well, life goes on !!! good
                  1. Containers
                    +13
                    14 May 2013 13: 14
                    Yes, on the streets and in clinics - crowds of pregnant women or with small ones in their arms. Well I say - people suck all their rotten manuals. Whether from impotence, toli from stupidity.
                  2. +8
                    14 May 2013 14: 20
                    Built a new skyscraper (!, A solution to the housing problem)
                    only in order to buy an apartment in this high-rise, you need to either scam like a damn or get into a bonded mortgage for half a life and again plow in order to repay a loan. So the solution to the housing problem is very conditional.
                    1. +9
                      14 May 2013 16: 42
                      "only to buy an apartment in this skyscraper, you either have to go to hell like a damn or get into a bonded mortgage for half your life and again plow to recoup a loan" - yes, the conditions are quite tough, but on the other hand, you want to give it, you want live go plow and do not plow, since when did the word plow become abusive?
                      1. +2
                        14 May 2013 22: 59
                        No, I do not expect handouts from the state. But for young families, they could have done not a preferential mortgage, but a social hiring, as in Soviet times.
                        As for the word "plow", it can only be abusive in relation to agricultural work)
                      2. +1
                        15 May 2013 05: 18
                        You, my friend, tryndit about what you don’t know. In Soviet times, I lived with two children of 12 years in a hostel. And now the daughter and her son-in-law bought their little one for five years. Syzran, Samara region
                      3. 0
                        15 May 2013 12: 27
                        And how much is a kopeck piece in Syzran? Average?
                      4. +1
                        15 May 2013 19: 19
                        They took in the secondary market and with not the best layout for 1 million. Better then was 1,2-1,3 mln, now it is bigger, up to 1,4 mln.
                    2. +14
                      14 May 2013 18: 23
                      and you don’t live in your native city ... for such grandmothers you can buy a village for yourself with the peasants together, give them a job and earn it yourself. behold, you and the children and the land and the peasantry, you will set up a church.
                      1. 0
                        14 May 2013 22: 57
                        rather a pagan temple then, not a church.
                    3. +1
                      15 May 2013 06: 43
                      What is the problem of plowing ??? Or you do not like to work, then another conversation ...
                3. Scythian 35
                  -11
                  14 May 2013 13: 28
                  If so the question is then negotiate to the end !!! In two or three years, children born in the late 80s and 90s will enter reproductive age and a sharp decline in the birth rate of the population will begin, and it will last about ten to fifteen years !!!
                  1. Containers
                    +3
                    14 May 2013 14: 20
                    Those. with an increase in the fertile population will the birth rate fall? Interesting logic.
                  2. +3
                    14 May 2013 14: 45
                    Scythian, 35, so contribute personally to improving demographics.
                  3. Bashkaus
                    +2
                    14 May 2013 17: 08
                    Scythian, plus! If you look carefully, the wave-like decline in fertility began during the Second World War 41-45, a complete fall + death of 27 ml of people, most of whom are men of reproductive age.
                    And then it went running. Post-war rise, then recession (unborn children during the war years) recession-rise. the 80s saw another rise, then another decline. It should be noted that the sinus curve decreased every time, it was gradually leveled. But the 90s came, and what a decline, I know about this not by hearsay. I worked for many years in a polyclinic for adolescents in the 80s, it was a lot, as the 90s went, a disaster. The polyclinic is designed for 8 thousand adolescents, and there are 4-5 thousand of them throughout the district. The polyclinic does not develop standards, and the new generation has not yet reached the age bracket with which our P-ka works, it is 14-18 years old, but because of this recession, we had to dodge and extend the admission of persons to 21 years old, we have such teenagers that would not close the "teenage center"
                4. +1
                  14 May 2013 13: 48
                  (Sighed) No.
                5. DeerIvanovich
                  0
                  14 May 2013 18: 37
                  the wave-like population growth in the European part of Russia is partly due to the Second World War.
            2. +4
              14 May 2013 21: 01
              Quote: Andrey57
              Syria is the key to bringing down world prices for gas and oil, since Syria is a key hub for the transit of Saudi oil and Qatari gas to Europe.

              When did Russian gas come to Europe, amers screamed about Russia's energy weapons, dependence (excessive) on gas supplies to satellite countries in NATO. There were even demands to limit its supply, calls to the allies not to become dependent on Russia. The RF gave firm guarantees of 100% fulfillment of its obligations, despite the economic, political and other conjuncture. The positions of the United States and Britain were shaken. We came to the conclusion about the need to diversify the flow. The Saudis and Qatar are ready to supply alternative gas and oil, but Syria stands in the way. Exit? Bring her democracy. How to cover up the operation? Civil war and the threat of military intervention. We remembered about weapons of mass destruction. (It was in Iraq, the West did not fall for this setup. Although according to our sources, before Del Ponte's announcement, the rebels used a weakened version of Sarin against residents and regular troops). Then they pulled Israel into the light with its air strikes in the hope of provoking Assad into retaliatory measures. Then there is a reason to punish the "aggressor" who dared to defend himself against amerovskoy democracy.
              But the fact that the internal spring of the conflict is the energy dependence of the West on Russian gas, in this, Andrei, I agree 100%.
              About the collapse of prices. Now that we have concluded deals with the PRC, Japan, and a number of other countries for 5-10 years with the prices specified in the agreements and the corridor of their fluctuations, it will be difficult for the US and the backstage to do this, although ... (?) Rapprochement with the PRC, India, Vietnam able to save from shortage of consumer goods.
              1. 0
                14 May 2013 22: 31
                With the Chinese, a contract for 40 or 44 bucks per barrel. I don’t know with the rest.
            3. -1
              14 May 2013 21: 22
              Quote: Andrey57
              In Western banks do not "our" grandmothers lie, there are already stolen money from us, from which our economy is not hot and not cold, they are already bye!

              You wanted to say no folk grandmother? I agree. These are the grandmothers of those who stole them. Moreover. But what about our stabilization fund?
              Quote: Andrey57
              and Qatari gas to Europe.

              Qatari gas is transported to Europe by gas carriers!
              I will not argue on the remaining points. As they say, wait and see.
            4. 0
              16 May 2013 22: 48
              Quote: Andrey57
              In Western banks do not "our" grandmothers lie, there are already stolen money from us, from which our economy is not hot and not cold, they are already bye! As for the rest of the points - 1.the disintegration of the army is not what they are trying to show, - 08.08.08 Russia has clearly shown that it can give out to the Mordas without looking back to the West, 2.the absence of common borders does not interfere with supplying everything there with the help of the BDK and Aviation that we consider it necessary to supply Assad, again without looking back to the West, 3. dependence on oil and gas supplies - we already have 2 pipes to the East, so as in the 80s it will not be possible to bring down prices, since China is not going to " turn off "its industry, and Europe is no less dependent on our energy resources 4. Dependence on food supplies - food producers are also not eager to lose markets, just remember the story with mattress beef, how many squeals were 5. - demographic crisis - population decline has stopped , and to create a full-fledged Syrian air defense system, we are still in a position to produce the necessary weapons. And finally - that is why all the leading players in world politics are fighting for Syria, because Syria is the key to bringing down world prices for gas and oil, since the territory of Syria is a key node for the transit of Saudi oil and Qatari gas to Europe.

              I very much agree with you, on points, but ... I'm not sure that Syria is the key to the possible transit of oil and gas to Europe! if you "screw up" Jordan to the end, which is much easier than Syria, you get a curlier transit through Izergil. But it is even easier through Turkey and Iraq, especially since they already almost own Iraq. So ... a discrepancy. :) The bottom line is that Syria is one of the few last countries that frankly does not follow the lead of the Jewish West, that is the question !!!
            5. 0
              17 May 2013 03: 05
              Syria as a transit for gas is very beneficial. For oil there is a big question. There are no benefits in oil pipelines if there are no deep-sea ports. The tanker transit method is the cheapest plus independent of the mood of the transit country.
              The delivery of military cargo to Syria is also very difficult. Need permission from transit countries. How much effort the United States has made for Russia to allow the transit of military cargo to Afghanistan through its air. We will have to do the same with the Turks. And Turkey is one of the parties to the conflict.
              So there are no simple solutions.
            6. vit24
              -1
              18 May 2013 00: 31
              demographic crisis - population decline has stopped, and to create a complete Syrian air defense system, we are still able to produce the necessary weapons.
              The reduction has stopped. But the quality of this population has deteriorated significantly. Your military factories are not able to produce weapons in need for a serious war. Those personnel who have retired, and the current youth, does not want to go there to work as a result of the market, and there really isn’t youth (consequences of the 90s)
          5. Suvorov000
            +9
            14 May 2013 10: 33
            you are just like a child))
            The army as it was and remains, and all sorts, as if trying not to ditch it
            Why do we need aviation?
            Export as it will be so, they have nowhere to take resources
            It’s better for us to finally raise the light and textile industry
            Yes, there is such a factor, but people are trying to overcome it.
            Our grandmothers are in Western banks in such quantity that in case of their freezing this amount would be equal to their investment in Russia, we get bash on bash
          6. +14
            14 May 2013 11: 04
            A little clarification: THIS IS NOT OUR BUTTERFLY! And if they disappear there, the road is there for them, do not give a damn and forget.
            1. +12
              14 May 2013 12: 38
              Quote: Stiletto
              THIS IS NOT OUR BABY! And if they disappear there, the road is there for them, do not give a damn and forget.

              In exchange, we can nationalize foreign investment in the form of enterprises, stocks, etc. Having told our friends, take our grandmothers there.)))))
              1. +4
                15 May 2013 05: 22
                Dear INTER, as far as I know, the TNK-BP deal was financed specifically by US bonds. That is, the west was forced to swallow 50 billion of their own poison.
                1. 0
                  16 May 2013 23: 04
                  it is very good, very good that their "toilet paper" was shaved off by them "!!! And how the Kremlin had enough intelligence and courage for that, I don't understand! :))
                  And at what prezik it was turned on, do not tell me?
                  1. 0
                    18 May 2013 01: 58
                    You speak disrespectfully of the President of my country. Dialogue does not make sense.
          7. +10
            14 May 2013 11: 04
            Quote: nycsson
            It should be recalled that in the 80s, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a crushing blow to the economy of the USSR. What is stopping them from doing it now? NOTHING!

            You wishful thinking here. NOTHING, EVERYTHING! The crisis of Western economies tied their hands. For such large-scale actions, they have no more strengths. Yes, and the states themselves and Europe have more than enough internal problems. So your items listed absolutely do not give any trump cards for Israel hi
            1. +18
              14 May 2013 12: 43
              Quote: GSH-18
              It should be recalled that in the 80s, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a crushing blow to the economy of the USSR. What is stopping them from doing it now? NOTHING!

              Do not forget that the USSR did not collapse at all because of the economy and the collapse of oil prices. The USSR artificially created a systemic political crisis. If the top (elite), the people (he didn’t want to) would not want to ruin the country, nobody would be able to ruin it. They wouldn’t die of hunger. Fortunately, the country is huge, we will feed ourselves. The main thing in this business is core, internal stability. And viruses with healthy immunity can be dealt with! Yes
              1. 0
                14 May 2013 13: 03
                Quote: INTER
                Quote: GSH-18
                It should be recalled that in the 80s, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a crushing blow to the economy of the USSR. What is stopping them from doing it now? NOTHING!

                This is not my quote, I quoted nycsson. Yes
              2. +4
                15 May 2013 05: 25
                As far as I remember, Gorbachev created a commodity hunger by permission to UNLOCK ALL. The first Soviet millionaires, such as Tarasov, appeared on the price difference. And we left empty shelves.
                1. burn
                  +2
                  15 May 2013 08: 17
                  It was according to the plan ov in conjunction with the Jews, to destroy the USSR after Russia to turn into a colony ... Vova Putin broke their plans
              3. SASCHAmIXEEW
                +3
                15 May 2013 14: 35
                I agree with you, about the top traitors + 5 a column of zh.osionistov in the economy and supply !!! They, with the CIA and traitors from the KGB, and destroyed the USSR !!!
              4. +3
                16 May 2013 12: 21
                and also created an artificial shortage of goods, in our pitra chickens were rotting alive on poultry farms! the products in the wagons were rotten, food was dumped in the port into the bay, and there was a shortage in stores!
                1. 0
                  18 May 2013 02: 00
                  The performance of Gavryusha Popov with the demand to create commodity hunger in Moscow is well known.
            2. -2
              14 May 2013 21: 27
              Quote: GSH-18
              So your items listed absolutely do not give any trump cards for Israel

              I do not agree with you. hi
          8. +9
            14 May 2013 11: 08
            Quote: nycsson
            do not give in to Syria, then the West will ruin our economy

            If our economy is in the hands of the West, let it collapse as soon as possible, even if the government of the iPhone is washed away, and we won’t help Syria, they will just overwhelm everyone one by one. In my opinion it’s already enough to wrinkle the skin on .ope, remember Serbia, Libya ..........
            1. +5
              14 May 2013 12: 00
              However, the opponents of B. Assad and the current Syrian government are not a single structure like a political party, but a group of different organizations with different views and goals, which are united only by hatred of the current government.

              This is where the root of evil lies, why all these partners are frowning, because they have already divided Syria, and if we surrender it, then the result will be the same as in Libya. Well, there is Iran, and our good and old Caucasus. Also already shared in the backstage circles of Europe.
              1. +6
                14 May 2013 12: 45
                Quote: Sirocco
                and there is Iran, and our good and old Caucasus. Also already shared in the backstage circles of Europe.

                Europe assumes God disposes. Dreaming is not harmful)))
            2. 0
              14 May 2013 21: 34
              Quote: ziqzaq
              If our economy is in the hands of the West,

              And there is.
              Quote: ziqzaq
              and we won’t help Syria, for sure, the amers will all overdue one by one.

              Not right away! Then they will bring down Iran ...
              Quote: ziqzaq
              remember Serbia, Libya ..........

              I agree completely .......
              1. Don
                +1
                15 May 2013 16: 50
                Quote: nycsson
                And there is.

                And how is it in the hands of the West?
                1. +3
                  15 May 2013 19: 23
                  Dear Don, as far as I remember, when landing the hodor, it turned out that the final beneficiary was Rothschild. Information is publicly available.
                  1. Don
                    +1
                    16 May 2013 10: 21
                    Quote: Lankov Victor
                    Dear Don, as far as I remember, when landing the hodor, it turned out that the final beneficiary was Rothschild. Information is publicly available.

                    Dear Victor, what does Rothschild have to do with it? The main assets of Yukos were bought by Baikalfinansgroup, which in turn was bought by the state-owned company Rosneft. So what is the benefit of the Rothschilds?
          9. djon3volta
            +6
            14 May 2013 11: 53
            Quote: nycsson
            Dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil, gas, timber, coal, metals, etc.)

            they themselves are dependent on our energy resources. Your points can be easily refuted and turned inside out in favor of Russia, I’m just too lazy to write point by point here. Anyone who uses our resources, they, as drug addicts, depend on our doses. Try them off this needle laughing
            1. -1
              14 May 2013 21: 36
              Quote: djon3volta
              everyone who uses our resources, they as drug addicts depend on our doses. try them off this needle

              With a gas needle slowly removed ........
          10. +5
            14 May 2013 11: 59
            Quote: nycsson
            2. Russia's lack of approaches to Syria (geographically)

            Well ... they need to give them the idea of ​​transferring a "strip" of land (thirty kilometers wide) along the borders with Turkey, Israel ... the Russian Federation.
          11. +11
            14 May 2013 12: 02
            Tell me at least one trump card in Russia's hands on the Syrian issue !? But our geopolitical opponents have more than enough of them

            Yes, the arguments are real, but there is a nuance! If Russia backtracks, then a blow to the country's prestige will be much more destructive than the collapse in oil prices. The price of hydrocarbons will rise anyway, but to restore authority ... Moreover, Yeltsin soaked him in an order when he turned in his left and right. As Ecclesiastes said: there is a time to scatter stones, and a time to collect stones; time to cuddle, and time to dodge. The time has come. What could be done then is deadly now. I suppose that the GDP understood this perfectly.
          12. Good Ukraine
            +19
            14 May 2013 12: 06
            hi
            Quote: nycsson
            If we do not give in to Syria, then the West will ruin our economy, and the arrival of these gentlemen is most likely connected with an ultimatum to us.


            Well no. Apparently it’s not possible to dictate the conditions. Anglo-Saxons never ask what to do, but just silently do. Now everything is different.
            And they go one after the other to "talk". They still think that once again they can be deceived.
            If Russia puts C 300 in Syria, then I understand that Israel has nothing to do in Iran. And it infuriates everyone.
            And since they infuriate them, then everything is right!
            They cannot reset the price of energy resources either. In this case, China will produce its goods even at lower prices. And this threatens a complete collapse of the production system of the West (their products are expensive).
            West "on the hook" request
            1. +1
              14 May 2013 12: 49
              Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
              And this threatens a complete collapse of the production system of the West (their products are expensive).
              West "on the hook

              There is some truth in this, but China is dependent on the West, where to put the goods produced if the West closes the borders for the sake of supporting its producer. And the WTO is not a hindrance to them, they issue laws, they can also change)
              1. +4
                14 May 2013 13: 27
                Quote: INTER
                What to do with the goods produced if the West closes the borders for the sake of supporting its producer.

                Only now, most of these same manufacturers again transferred their production to China. A vicious circle is obtained.
              2. Good Ukraine
                +3
                14 May 2013 15: 56
                Quote: INTER
                but China is dependent on the West, where to put the goods produced if the West closes the borders in order to support its manufacturer.


                This is the beauty of the situation. It's not even a hook - it's a trap. The West may try to give up cheap goods, but this is also a problem. And China has already "warned" that it will reorient itself to its billion dollar market (there will be sales of goods). Well, if China is forced to buy some goods for dollars, then it has them. There was a time when China was selling real cheap goods to the United States in exchange for drawn candy wrappers. It's time to buy something with these pieces of paper. good

                Trap it. I want to say a trap on a bear. - no - to the gopher !!!
                1. +1
                  14 May 2013 17: 17
                  Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
                  Trap it. I want to say a trap on a bear. - no - to the gopher !!!

                  But there is one thing, because many TNCs of the West are located in China and there is such a thing as capital flight, they clicked a button and you. Yes, indeed, if China now requests all its grandmothers from the West, then perhaps the world will slide back into the Stone Age. But China does not need this, so there’s a double-edged sword what
                  1. Good Ukraine
                    +2
                    14 May 2013 18: 00
                    Quote: INTER
                    many Western TNCs are located in China and there is such a thing as capital flight, they clicked a button and you


                    What capital flight? The Chinese have more money than the United States. The Americans do not have time to draw them.
                    The only thing they can put pressure on the Chinese is not to give technology. But they do not give them anyway.
                    Yes, in principle it is a double-edged sword. A trap is because:
                    If the United States harms Russia, it helps China and vice versa. Therefore, they are trying to embroil the Russian Federation and the PRC (commodity and commodity-consuming countries).
                    And if these countries really go to trade in their currencies ... ???
              3. 0
                15 May 2013 18: 41
                The West cannot close the road to Chinese goods. They are cheaper. And the geyropa already doesn’t produce a lot, since the production is all in the same China.
                Gotcha.)))
                1. 0
                  16 May 2013 23: 21
                  Quote: JIaIIoTb
                  The West cannot close the road to Chinese goods. They are cheaper. And the geyropa already doesn’t produce a lot, since the production is all in the same China.
                  Gotcha.)))

                  There is infa that a number of Western large companies, primarily the United States, began to transfer their production from NRC (China) to South America! Economists explain this by the increase in land cover in the Middle Kingdom in recent times, but ... I think that here geopolitics are the first to move! The growth of China’s power is alarming the American Jews, and they will plant it!
            2. -1
              14 May 2013 21: 39
              Quote: Dobryak Ukraine
              West "on the hook"

              On the hook is anyone but the USA!
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +2
              15 May 2013 14: 44
              Iron Logic !!! +++++++
            4. 0
              16 May 2013 23: 17
              A very logical picture, "Kind Ukraine", but everything is not so simple in the "Kingdom of Denmark" :))
          13. +4
            14 May 2013 12: 50
            Quote: nycsson
            But our geopolitical opponents have more than enough of them

            They have their own problems above the roof, so to be honest it's not clear
            which they have more.
            Amer bankrupt (in fact, for the most part) and pederasts (ideologically), if you want to fight with Russia and want, but are unlikely to take out direct aggression financially.
            Europe buggers (in fact and ideologically, for the most part) do not want to and cannot.
            So they will most likely do a good face in a bad game and sprinkle poison in our direction.
            1. +1
              14 May 2013 22: 40
              Napoleon gathered the Great Army and sent it to Russia. NATO for the war with Russia will gather a great army of buggers. If there is enough money. And there’s not enough money, so they will grow each other there.
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +2
              15 May 2013 14: 51
              Actually, the Jews from the Fed are in charge of everything, and we are fighting the world evil of Zh.Ozionism !!
          14. +2
            14 May 2013 13: 00
            As for these five trump cards, you are a little bent. Europe is more dependent on the export of our raw materials. Those wishing to buy (if anything) our excess is more than enough. As for the 4th point, Moscow and St. Petersburg may and depend on 50-60% but not regions at all. The second point in general can only be considered a trump card at a stretch. Moreover, it is not in vain that our Navy is slowly returning to the Mediterranean. Demography is our problem, not their trump card. And she is poor and poor, but is being solved.
            And here on the first point, trace the messages in the South direction. Mostly or most of all new equipment and ships goes to the southern borders, and there are a lot of exercises.
          15. Containers
            +5
            14 May 2013 13: 10
            Oh my goddess ... Manuals chtol, damn it, change. And then dust is already pouring from them, and you praise them as a bible.
          16. +2
            14 May 2013 14: 00
            It's not that bad.
            1. Nuclear weapons are ready for use at any time, and this is the main thing. Everything else is quite enough to conduct regional wars.
            2. Yes it is. But to organize a blockade in practice, considering paragraph 1 is unlikely.
            3. The same dependence in the West, only with the opposite sign. In which case we will have an overabundance of resources, but they will run out of dollars. You won’t get warm with dollars and euros and you will not fill the car. They will have unsecured pieces of paper, and we will have resources. Without them The EU will be like a car without gasoline.
            4. You can manipulate the cost of oil and other raw materials only if there is an adequate estimate and real security for the currency in which it is calculated. In 70-80 it was approximately the same and the debts of the Western countries were not so huge. Now, under the conditions of the US public debt in terms of GDP and availability huge reserves of foreign exchange reserves in other countries, the decline in oil prices will only cause increased demand for it. In 2008-9, the low oil price did not last very long. China organized a rush demand.
            6. The amount of funds in Western banks is less than the joint debt of corporations of the Russian Federation (corporate debt is about 600 billion). Having reset the bank account, the West will automatically reset these debts.
            1. 0
              14 May 2013 22: 45
              Quote: bootlegger
              6. The amount of funds in Western banks is less than the joint debt of corporations of the Russian Federation (corporate debt is about 600 billion). Having reset the bank account, the West will automatically reset these debts.


              These debts are, in many ways, assets in the West, which are also nullified.
          17. KamikadZzzE1959
            +4
            14 May 2013 14: 31
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Prokop
            The West has no such proposals for which he would agree to retreat.

            And here you are wrong! Tell me at least one trump card in Russia's hands on the Syrian issue !? But our geopolitical opponents have more than enough of them:
            1. The collapse of the Russian army
            2. Russia's lack of approaches to Syria (geographically)
            3. Dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil, gas, timber, coal, metals, etc.)
            4. Russia's dependence on food imports and consumer goods (50-60%)
            5. The demographic crisis in Russia
            These are basic. It should be recalled that in the 80's, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a devastating blow to the economy of the USSR. What is stopping them from doing it now? NOTHING!
            Not the independence of our state on these indicators is cutting our foreign policy at the root. If we do not give in to Syria, then the West will ruin our economy, and the arrival of these gentlemen is most likely connected with an ultimatum to us. Either we shut our mouth or they begin to act. By the way, I forgot the most important trump card in the hands of the West:
            6. Our grandmothers are in western banks !!!

            I do not agree on all points
            1 I don’t think that the army is completely collapsed, at least there is a nuclear baton in my bosom and we can deliver a furious blow. How many times after our meetings did the West turn to the dentist? Is this a pleasant activity? No. That's why they are courting Putin now.
            2 There is no land border with Syria, but there is a sea. Do you think they will not let me go? Let go. If you do not let go see point one.
            3.4.6. Already the whole population probably dreams that Zanad chopped off all this to us, can we then start to think with our own head and not dance to the tune of someone else? But they won’t do it - how can you refuse such a freebie?
            5 The question is painful, but has no relation to this topic
          18. +3
            14 May 2013 14: 36
            From the point of view of geopolitics, all these trump cards are worthless.
            1. A moot point. The army of the Russian Federation is not the Soviet army. But something else can. But, most importantly, the country has nuclear weapons covered by a strong air defense. That allows the Russian Federation to speak in full voice on the world stage.
            2. Given the availability of nuclear weapons, even a Black Sea Fleet group with marines in Tartus can stop any aggression against Syria by NATO. In addition, the corridor through Iran and Iraq is real.
            3. What is it for? In the event of war, the military economy will be included and we will be up to the lantern, what kind of dependence we have.
            4. In a non-military solution to the conflict, for example, with sanctions, this is bypassed "once" with the help of China, for example. In the event of a war, I think that neither we nor the amers will need a zhrachka and consumer goods in the next few thousand years.
            5. And what is this for? We have enough people to support our shrinking military machine. The demographic factor can play a role in the event of a protracted conflict. But firstly, the nuclear conflict cannot be protracted, and secondly, the population is enough for us to defend our territory even with conventional weapons. Weapons would be enough.
            6. And even THIS is not such a big problem. Money in Western banks is the Fed wrappers, which can depreciate at any time. But the oil rigs - they are located on Russian territory. And while they are in the hands of the Russian oligarchs, they can very quickly create new accounts for themselves. So for the defense of the country they will bite their teeth. Look only at the difference between liberoid domestic politics and patriotic foreign. And everything will be clear.
            1. burn
              +1
              15 May 2013 08: 22
              For Russia, nuclear missiles are yesterday, there is already worse within 5 minutes the United States will disappear under the ocean, together with part of Europe ...
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                0
                15 May 2013 15: 14
                Ustin, do you know a terrible military secret ???
          19. +2
            14 May 2013 15: 30
            3. Dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil, gas, timber, coal, metals, etc.)
            4. Russia's dependence on food imports and consumer goods (50-60%)
            5. The demographic crisis in Russia

            Are you in all seriousness? Or just to be smart?
            1. -3
              14 May 2013 15: 36
              Quote: Old_Kapitan
              Are you in all seriousness? Or just to be smart?

              It's just a puncture, he talks about his homeland in the west.
            2. -2
              14 May 2013 21: 43
              Quote: Old_Kapitan
              Are you in all seriousness?

              In all seriousness.
              Quote: Setrac
              It's just a puncture, he talks about his homeland in the west.

              My Motherland is Russia!
              1. +1
                14 May 2013 22: 15
                Quote: nycsson
                My Motherland is Russia!

                Well, defend Russia, why are you helping Western agents of influence?
                1. 0
                  15 May 2013 07: 46
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Well, defend Russia, why are you helping Western agents of influence?

                  I’m just protecting her. And in the literal and figurative sense. About agents - it’s you who have gone too far. I just face the truth, and you create some kind of illusions about the power of Russia, etc.
                  Do you think that any chatter that does not have a foundation can protect your homeland?
                  1. +1
                    15 May 2013 15: 18
                    Quote: nycsson
                    Do you think that any chatter that does not have a foundation can protect your homeland?

                    You can honestly, without shying away from serving in military service, have you served, for example? And it’s easy to be a patriot sitting at the keyboard, confirm your patriotism with two years of service.
                    1. -1
                      17 May 2013 11: 41
                      Quote: Setrac
                      You can honestly, without shying away from serving in military service, have you served, for example? And it’s easy to be a patriot sitting at the keyboard, confirm your patriotism with two years of service.

                      I served urgent 1.5 of the year, wrote a report and entered the military school, I have enough service ............
                  2. Don
                    +1
                    15 May 2013 17: 14
                    Quote: nycsson
                    I just face the truth

                    What truth? Which was imposed on you or did you yourself compose? So where did you get that this is true? All of these items that you listed above are nonsense, especially regarding the economy.
          20. Skiff-2
            +1
            14 May 2013 15: 34
            Quote: nycsson
            2. Russia's lack of approaches to Syria (geographically)

            And here you are mistaken, dear, we have an air corridor - through the Caspian Sea to Iran, Iraq and hello, native Syria. The corridor over the Caspian (as temporary) operated during the Iran-Iraq war, now Shiites rule in Iraq, so flying our eagles over Syria’s friendly territory quickly, secretly, from the evil NATO eyes in the distance ... The main thing is WILL not to abandon your own, but funds will be found!
            1. -1
              14 May 2013 21: 45
              Quote: Skif-2
              Shiites now rule in Iraq

              There is a civil war in Iraq. It is not known who steers there ......
              1. Don
                0
                15 May 2013 17: 18
                Quote: nycsson
                There is a civil war in Iraq. It is not known who steers there ......

                If terrorist attacks occur in a country, this does not mean that a civil war is going on. Shiites rule there.
          21. Bashkaus
            +6
            14 May 2013 16: 56
            I’ll tell you the most important factor that will not allow you to chop the back.
            You have this item number 3.
            The fact is that Syria and Iran are the only countries in the world that still sell resources not for green KC, but for real gold. If Syria and Iran fall, the Russian economy will fall.
            Libya has already fallen, The next Rubicon is Iran, but we are waking up to defend Iran, for sure, without supplying weapons, but with shouts of "Hurray" go into bayonet attacks with NATO soldiers.
            So we won’t surrender to Syria until the last, otherwise it’s our defeat and departure to the side of civilizational development.
          22. +3
            14 May 2013 17: 45
            Some kind of soup set)) I'm referring to "nycsson (3)
            Just having fun with your assumptions, they are ridiculous.
            1. Where did you see the collapse of the Russian army?
            2. Generally there is a sea route, and then, we are a missile power
            3. aaga, then Europe will build new gas pipelines, or China will stop purchasing))
            4. TNP - almost everything comes from China, well, we’re doing something ourselves, and China is our strategic partner.
            5. fertility is growing, or they will immediately ban it for us))
            Here you decided to use a certain opinion that no one shares, I am quoting about your thesis; ".. a devastating blow to the economy in the 80s.)))
            6. I don’t know what "your" money is there, but there are securities.
            As you can see, your trump cards, which you pressed so completely are not wealthy. In 90g. Yes, that is exactly what it would be, I mean Western trump cards.
            1. RSNV.
              -8
              15 May 2013 00: 47
              You're a rocket power, raving. The missile power was the USSR, the thieves of the Russian Federation to the missile power as to the moon. Russia is an energy power, so your idol of GDP dubbed it in 2006, now the truth is rarely remembered about this.
              1. Don
                +3
                15 May 2013 17: 23
                Quote: rsnv
                The missile power was the USSR, the thieves of the Russian Federation before the missile power as before the moon

                And the Russian Federation there is no nuclear weapons? Do not carry nonsense.
            2. +2
              15 May 2013 07: 49
              Quote: Aristarchus
              Just having fun with your assumptions, they are ridiculous.

              I assure you that laughing is not long left. You will be crying soon. hi
              1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                -2
                15 May 2013 15: 27
                So RUSSIA is not your Motherland, if you write "wake up soon to cry"! Well, let's cry, we’re no stranger to it, and then we’ll bury you all, live Zionists !!! We will bring out the whole race, do not doubt that no matter who else, did not muddy the water with your loan interest !!!
          23. DeerIvanovich
            +1
            14 May 2013 18: 32
            Quote: nycsson
            It should be recalled that in the 80s, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices, thereby inflicting a crushing blow to the economy of the USSR.

            Do not be so naive and do not believe in all these stories.
          24. +5
            14 May 2013 19: 51
            Dear nycsson, do not exaggerate so much.
            Quote: nycsson
            The collapse of the Russian army
            -
            This could be said in the early 2000s.
            Quote: nycsson
            Dependence of our country on the export of raw materials (oil, gas, timber, coal, metals, etc.)

            But this is a double-edged sword - the West depends on the purchase no less than Russia on the sale.
            Quote: nycsson
            Russia's dependence on food imports and consumer goods (50-60%)

            Russia is already able to feed itself, but the West, without importing its products into Russia, will face an even greater crisis than it was in 2008. In addition, the Russian agricultural sector will lose its competitor supplying cheap and not always high-quality products.
            Quote: nycsson
            The demographic crisis in Russia

            Not so he is already a crisis.
            Quote: nycsson
            Our grandmothers are in western banks !!!

            But it’s his own fault - keep it at home.
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            1. 0
              15 May 2013 07: 54
              Quote: rolik
              And the mattresses and the British have common borders with Syria belay. Yes, that’s what I understand. You, my friend, need to teach geography to go .... probably.

              Before you write something, first think carefully. fool Mattresses and the British do not need common borders with Syria, they have a network of military bases around the world, specifically in Europe and the Middle East, even in Central Asia. And with geography, everything is fine with me! hi
              1. rolik
                0
                15 May 2013 11: 16
                Quote: nycsson
                Before you write something, first think carefully

                And I always think well before writing, unlike completely smart figures. Russia in Syria, at least has a base, and what do mattresses and British have in Syria ??? Name at least one object. And what does the base around the world? This is about Syria and not about the mattress bases in the world. The answer is clear and understandable that mattresses and the British lost in Syria. Just do not sing about the fight against terrorism and the protection of democracy. It no longer rolls. And do not forget to greet Ponomarev with his comrades, and also betray him a bar of soap and a rope.
              2. +1
                15 May 2013 18: 52
                And we have a base in Syria, called Tartus. PMTO is called out of modesty, that Striped bases are stuck around the world and we are so modest, we are for world peace, so we have points.)))
            2. SASCHAmIXEEW
              0
              15 May 2013 15: 36
              They need a passing x .. in w ... !!!
          26. +1
            14 May 2013 23: 29
            You can’t give Syria, she has suffered so much and continues to endure.
          27. SASCHAmIXEEW
            0
            15 May 2013 14: 01
            The arguments are good, but if Putin signs, then he is not the president of the Power, but a banana republic!
          28. DPN
            0
            15 May 2013 22: 43
            So that Russia does not repeat the path of the USSR. you just need to explain to Saudi Arabia that in this case it will cease to exist and the states will not be able to help them a second time.
            At the expense of "grandmothers" factories and raw materials in Russia, and about candy wrappers the way citizens with dual or more citizenship bezakoetsya.
          29. annenkov242
            +1
            16 May 2013 09: 02
            If it were not for our SPIRIT, BASED ON THE FOUNDATION OF THE RUSSIAN SPIRIT, our heads would long ago have surrendered Russia to reptilians.
          30. +1
            18 May 2013 04: 26
            1. That you are not even mistaken - you are deeply mistaken!
            2. Well done! He taught geography!
            3.50 - 50. Bet?
            4. hear! So I, like my MOM, born in 1923, and who fought, will survive !!! And you?
            5. I am the fifth in the family and the last. There are three of mine. And you have?
            6. It turns out that they are no longer basic.
            7. (6 a) Your grandmothers are lying ... - mine - that which he received, he left.
            And 8th. You do not AVIGDOROVICH case? (OR HOW DO YOU THERE?)
            9. I read all of your (3) publications .. - I won’t go into intelligence with you1
            And 10th. And to my rating - with ... um. I'm not here for that.
          31. 0
            18 May 2013 18: 56
            go and get up, if it's so bad.
          32. 0
            19 May 2013 20: 00
            Hello, almost everything is right, Our liberals and most of them in the upper echelons of power would certainly bargain and calm down, But everyone just doesn’t listen to what the foreign emissaries are talking about, All this talking room is connected with one condition of Syria after Assad, they don’t speak differently the ways are interested in observing the Iran embargo, Our people clearly say that they are observing it, Putin speaks about the current situation in Syria and they don’t care, they have already made a decision, 117 countries are ready to support more stringent measures against Syria at the UN front, Only our veto is The UN Security Council still holds them, but soon the Yankees will find a weighty excuse, Everything now depends on what happens in the near future at the fronts in SYRIA
          33. Alexander 1
            0
            20 May 2013 20: 00
            Your arguments are not very convincing, any competent expert (not only military) will prove it.
          34. 0
            20 May 2013 20: 19
            My opinion is that PROKOP is right and nycsson is right, but I think Putin will find a way out. More than once he came out of such difficult situations. In any case, he will put the case in such a way that it will help Syria and break off the bandits' accomplices and defenders.
        2. +3
          14 May 2013 21: 34
          Yes, the West is consolidating and wants to openly intervene in Syrian events and the main obstacle to its intervention is that Russia is ready to "check for lice": is it really a resurgent Great Russia, which its leadership is constantly talking about, or is it still helpless Russia, as in 90 -e, mired in her internal squabbles, indecisive, ready to surrender her positions in the international arena, if only to put more pressure on her. If Russia is ready to concede to the West in Syria under some plausible pretext designed to save its honor, as it has done more than once in the past, and in response to its obvious aggression will limit itself only to loud protests and concerns that can be immediately printed on toilet paper for their convenience application, then this will be the final loss of international authority by Russia. All and sundry will begin to wipe their feet about Russia, beatings of Russian ambassadors will become fashionable, as was the case in Qatar and many other anti-Russian actions. So the moment of truth is coming for the leadership of Russia!
        3. +1
          14 May 2013 22: 12
          "The West has no proposals for which it would agree to back down."

          Yes - Obama is convening a UN conference on Syria, and crawls under the table with everyone, then, says Beeeeeee loudly three times. Well, or on clicked.
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        5. 0
          16 May 2013 22: 06
          Quote: Prokop
          Quote: Denis
          The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ..

          In this situation, for Russia, the inclusion of the rear is tantamount to self-destruction, IMHO, and Putin, of course, understands this. The West has no such proposals for which he would agree to retreat.

          Oh, I think there is and probably enough !! And secret messages in western banks, and a selection of documents on violation by him and his people of the laws of the Russian Federation and international laws, and much more!: ((But if there is more, there is still a character left at the GDP, from a man, and not just snot, then then it will tense up and will not give up, not like with the Kursk nuclear submarine!
        6. avega
          0
          18 May 2013 23: 13
          We live in Russia, and here often the authorities commit such acts ..... that you begin to think about the presence of reason with her and the lack of personal interests of paid officials ....
      3. fortunophile
        +1
        14 May 2013 09: 15
        Quote: Denis
        The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ...

        There, interesting things began to happen:
        Violent diplomatic activity unfolded around Syria: the leaders of the leading countries of the world frequented each other. Vladimir Putin had no time to host the British prime minister, when the Israeli prime minister flew to him on the same occasion. Experts do not exclude that the guest will offer a deal - refusal of supplies of S-300 to Syria in exchange for deployment of the Russian squadron in Israel.

        It's about Haifa.
        1. +13
          14 May 2013 11: 37
          Quote: fortuneophile
          It's about Haifa.


          Soon, the BDK in Haifa is a logistic rehearsal for saving the prudent and most valuable citizens of Israel in the event of the onset of a big mess in the Middle East. lol
          Hello again, Berdichev and Odessa and the native Chabad Dnieper (w .. ..) Petrovsk.
          1. KamikadZzzE1959
            0
            14 May 2013 14: 43
            Ascetic, make a base in Haifa- It's like putting your head in the mouth of a lion
          2. -1
            14 May 2013 20: 06
            Do not wait. hi
            1. KamikadZzzE1959
              +2
              14 May 2013 22: 55
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Do not wait. hi

              It hurts ...
          3. +1
            16 May 2013 23: 45
            Quote: Ascetic

            Soon, the BDK in Haifa is a logistic rehearsal for saving the prudent and most valuable citizens of Israel in the event of the onset of a big mess in the Middle East. lol
            Hello again, Berdichev and Odessa and the native Chabad Dnieper (w .. ..) Petrovsk.

            but I wouldn’t let these under-Jews who cut off because of the search for a good life back under any pretext! All sold out, zanchit sold out, now there already ... die!
      4. NKVD
        +3
        14 May 2013 09: 37
        Quote: Denis
        The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ...

        It will not be included. This is already a question of principle, prestige and big politics. How will they look at us in other countries if, after so many efforts, Russia surrenders to Syria? This will be a betrayal. Russia cannot afford it.
      5. dc120mm
        +11
        14 May 2013 12: 38
        You can’t step back, the atom will be a tragedy and the image of Russia will be dirty.

        So hold.
      6. 0
        14 May 2013 14: 32
        Denis
        The main thing is not to include the back of Russia ...

        Well, of course, speed does not exceed. And then the traffic police will stop the fine. laughing
      7. +1
        14 May 2013 14: 51
        If Russia does not deliver the S-300 to Syria, it will look like a betrayal. Loss of confidence in our country and all the ensuing consequences. I think that in the eyes of Western countries, we better (for them) still will not. Yes, and show our indecision and weakness. Deliveries must be made. Better yet, not the S-300, but the S-400. Which seemingly do not differ.
      8. Bashkaus
        +5
        14 May 2013 16: 51
        Which back? the car mechanic smiled wickedly while wiping his hands with a rag. I think that we, together with you, are citizens of the Russian Federation and there are those mechanisms that can break down and prevent the inclusion of reverse gear.
        For example, I never voted for Putin, but now you will not believe me, I am ready to yell everywhere and everywhere "Putin, do not surrender Syria, we are with you, we will support you!" Honestly, I'm surprised at myself.
        1. +3
          14 May 2013 17: 09
          Quote: Bashkaus
          For example, I never voted for Putin, but now you will not believe me, I am ready to yell everywhere and everywhere "Putin, do not surrender Syria, we are with you, we will support you!" Honestly, I'm surprised at myself.

          Adore!
          No need to shout. Better vote later, if you don’t give up and you yourself do not forget.
          You will really help him with this.
          1. Maitre
            -5
            14 May 2013 21: 19
            Do not help. He still counts the votes as necessary. And to be his president until the end of his days, and there his son from Kabaeva will grow up to change the folder. So it's good: you always dreamed of a strong hand and a king-priest ...
            1. +4
              14 May 2013 21: 41
              Quote: Master
              Do not help. He still counts the votes as necessary. And to be his president until the end of his days, and there his son from Kabaeva will grow up to change the folder. So it's good: you always dreamed of a strong hand and a king-priest ...

              Aren't you on the drum? That's honest, when the European Union creeps into our internal political squabbles, it infuriates me. And why did you decide that the Russians from the Israeli want something to listen to? Let's not discuss internal affairs here!
              1. 0
                15 May 2013 08: 42
                Aron is always a pleasure to read your posts and reasoning, as for the "Master", then this is an ordinary forum troll not worthy to enter into a discussion with him.
                The only cure for trolls is to ignore his posts.
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        2. burn
          +1
          15 May 2013 08: 27
          You write correctly, I also do not support Putin on many issues, especially on officials. And as a statesman, I am for him.
      9. 0
        17 May 2013 04: 58
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOVAL18Fijg
        video about the back almost
    2. +21
      14 May 2013 07: 38
      It seems to me that there will be supplies, everything points to this, these delegations are not very happy to leave, and after the meeting they left, and the Pacific Fleet did not just come to the Mediterranean Sea. I hope to see the ceremonial transfer of the complexes with the cutting of the red ribbon, and together with C-300 they will pick up something else interesting smile
    3. +5
      14 May 2013 08: 05
      Quote: Vanek
      Well, this is generally rudeness. They support their "allies" (opposition) and ask us NOT to support their allies (Assad).

      Maybe I don’t understand something.

      It’s called tolerance there.
      1. +5
        14 May 2013 12: 52
        Quote: retired
        It’s called tolerance there.

        I do not like this word, tolerance, in my understanding it is patience for everything, including gay, lesbian, etc., but you can’t tolerate everything angry
        1. Dima67
          +1
          14 May 2013 15: 44
          Quote: INTER
          I do not like this word, tolerance, in my understanding it is patience for everything, including gay, lesbian, etc., but you can’t tolerate everything

          Golden words!
    4. Atlon
      +19
      14 May 2013 08: 18
      Quote: Vanek
      Maybe I don’t understand something.

      What is there to understand? The "pilgrimage" of common people with petitions to the "Russian Tsar" evokes several feelings ...
      First, a sense of pride. How long has this been possible only to dream of? Secondly, the feeling of anxiety. Putin does not bend, no matter how our "partners" take some kind of bestial decision on Putin ... And thirdly, the feeling of just indignation, from undisguised arrogance and wild self-confidence in their impunity, of all these executioners of our time.
      I don’t understand another, how long will the world tolerate these neo-fascists in the USA, England and Israel? And what should happen in order for the second Nuremberg to finally take place? Is the third world?
      1. +3
        14 May 2013 10: 51
        I don’t understand another, how long will the world tolerate these neo-fascists in the USA, England and Israel? And what should happen in order for the second Nuremberg to finally take place? Is the third world?

        Until only a couple of percent of the population are interested in what is happening under their noses, in the meantime they are interested in havchik, fun and pumping rights. Do not underestimate SMD and advertisers, in their hands the direction of the movement of thought in countries. And now even many local (VO) support the economy of the invaders in household trifles and not only.
      2. to water
        +6
        14 May 2013 11: 02
        What kind of fascists are they? It was the Anglo-Saxons who organized both the first and second world wars on which they made their capital. In their verbiage, actions and cynicism, they far outdid even the Nazis. The fascists, though perverted, had their own principles and norms; these principles and norms do not exist at all. Whole nations are being thrown into the crucible of internecine and civil war. They pervert the generally accepted norms of societies of any religion or denomination to the point of absurdity. They justify violence against children and women - democracy. Whole peoples are dulled - they make a dull and controlled herd. They have learned to manipulate public opinion very subtly according to the principle - "The well-fed does not understand the hungry." To defeat them, you must fight according to their rules, otherwise we will always be the loser.
        1. Misantrop
          +13
          14 May 2013 11: 08
          Quote: regar
          To defeat them, you must fight by their rules, otherwise we will always be the loser.

          If you play by the rules of others, you will NEVER win, it is not for this that these rules are invented. OWN rules must be established, but only the strong ones can afford it request
          1. to water
            +2
            14 May 2013 14: 12
            You misunderstood me. Rather, I did not quite correctly formulate my thought. Of course you can not be compared to the Anglo-Saxons. But the problem is that we think differently with them. Therefore, we make mistakes in foreign policy. We succumb to provocations. Indeed, at the beginning of the 20th century, England dragged Russia into the first world war. What ultimately led to a domestic revolution, fragmented the state. You can’t repeat such mistakes, you must learn to think how they are in order to effectively resist them. That is what I wanted to say.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          15 May 2013 16: 01
          Only not the Anglo-Saxons, but the O. Zionists, the Anglo-Saxons, a tool in the hands of the Jewish money Zion.Osionist elite (we have enough of them), so these bloodsucking bugs must be plagued !!! And the media and TV are in their hands! !!
      3. 0
        14 May 2013 14: 41
        What can be done with them?
        From a military point of view, even the most successful campaign against the United States will end in a nuclear apocalypse.
        Everything is not going smoothly with the economic one either. Well, the world will refuse green paper. But the amers will refuse to pay their debts and start all over from scratch.
        1. Irtysh
          0
          14 May 2013 17: 22
          There is no need to fight amers directly. Let butt with their blacks, Latinos and drugs from Mexico.
        2. Irtysh
          0
          14 May 2013 17: 23
          There is no need to fight amers directly. Let butt with their blacks, Latinos and drugs from Mexico.
        3. Irtysh
          0
          14 May 2013 17: 23
          There is no need to fight amers directly. Let butt with their blacks, Latinos and drugs from Mexico.
        4. Irtysh
          +1
          14 May 2013 17: 23
          There is no need to fight amers directly. Let butt with their blacks, Latinos and drugs from Mexico.
      4. +3
        14 May 2013 22: 18
        Quote: Atlon
        And what should happen ... Is the third world?

        Good evening! After the visits of the diplomatic "beau monde" and Obama's speech, some analysts saw FOURTH option solutions to the problem by the West: silently ignore the position of Russia, supplying weapons, financing the opposition.
        Russia will be forced to respond by straining its economy on the military-technical cooperation with Syria. hidden version of the arms race according to the scenario of Vietnam.
        Two problems: a) How long will we be enough if the States seriously engage and internationalize the conflict; b) under the threat of disruption (due to lack of capacity) may be our rearmament to new systems.
        About C-300. The car is good, no doubt, but if not our military experts, but the Syrians are sitting at the consoles, we are facing a repetition of the Yom Kippur War, when, upon discovering the launch of a rocket from the Israeli Phantom, the Arabs threw control cabs and ran away to hide in the open gaps nearby. If our specialists are not there, we run the risk of getting a compromise on the 3 weave. Of course there should be a super military guard of each complex. Mossad does not sleep! One thing is good: the complex will be able to work on a carrier even over the territory of Israel, so Izy got excited.
        We need besides C-300, also protect Basara, as a national treasure of the Syrian people. If Iziki remove him, the whole thing is a trumpet! Following Iran and us.
        Assad's biggest mistake could be striking Israel. It is effective, instructive, but it is a direct path to intervention in Syria. The ATS cannot tolerate a war on two fronts.
        About the third world. I hope that even these fascists have the intelligence not to pull the trigger. But! It will be very stressful. Much will depend on the position of China, the determination and will of the political leadership of the Russian Federation.
      5. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +1
        15 May 2013 15: 48
        Putin urgently needs to change Mendel to a patriot-statesman, otherwise God forbid !!! Yes, and the office must be cleaned from zh.osionistov !!!
    5. +1
      14 May 2013 08: 42
      Yeah! We live in an interesting time! For me, one thing is clear that this pack will not leave Syria alone. And the main question is how will Russia and China act?
      1. Kuzkin Batyan
        +5
        14 May 2013 09: 09
        Judging by recent events, China is silent in a rag. Since China has nothing to offer. Is that cannon fodder.
        1. +2
          14 May 2013 14: 42
          It was believed that Kimi began to rage in order to divert part of the forces of the United States to the east, just from Syria. But Kimov pushed into the trough, of course - China.
      2. burn
        0
        15 May 2013 08: 29
        How will Russia and China act?
    6. +2
      14 May 2013 08: 51
      Quote: Vanek
      They support their "allies" (opposition) and ask us NOT to support their allies (Assad).

      You understand everything correctly! It's just that they perfectly understand that it will not work for Russia to refuse support for Syria by force! That is why it is polite to "flatter". Well, they can't cope with Syria! And even when Russia supports it!
    7. +7
      14 May 2013 09: 03
      The S-300 supply is the supply of Shell for the near zone. This is a company of special forces at least. Not against the SCA rabble, but against the Turkish and Israeli special forces. In general, this is necessary. But a simple 300x supply is not a panacea. At least 50 percent of ours should service air defense systems.
      1. +3
        14 May 2013 10: 28
        Pantsiri and Buki and Tunguska are already there, and our instructors too, besides, the Syrian crews have completed a full course with live firing in Russia, but the "instructors" will insure if anything hi
        1. +1
          14 May 2013 13: 05
          It's not bad that the Syrians have prepared calculations, the main thing is not to ask. systems like Egyptos in the 70 year. Jews are invented cunning and daring.
        2. Don
          0
          15 May 2013 17: 39
          Quote: Andrey57
          Tunguska

          Tungusok unfortunately not.
      2. +1
        14 May 2013 11: 18
        Quote: Mitek
        At least 50 percent of ours should service air defense systems.

        No, their Eskimos will serve 50% laughing
        Well what, by golly how small !? Incidentally, these air defense systems will take up combat duty, complete with Russian military instructors! soldier
    8. vadimus
      +4
      14 May 2013 09: 04
      We wouldn’t have climbed into Syria with dirty paws and there would be no reason to worry about our rackets ... Business type, but we are not bast ...
    9. 0
      14 May 2013 13: 54
      you don’t understand something belay What is allowed to Zeus is not allowed to the Bull
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        15 May 2013 16: 29
        Are you holding Zeus for Zeus? And have you ever imagined how the Russians would behave in a real war? When the Russians began to defend Vietnam, they quickly blown away! And in WWII they didn’t show themselves with dashing warriors, and in 2-18 they showed themselves flayer in Arkhangelsk ! do you think they have changed? I think touch something serious, behave differently! Fear of the first and not the fact that the victory will be 19% for them!
    10. +5
      14 May 2013 16: 59
      Syrian army frees three villages in the province of Homs



      Syrian government forces on the eve took control of three strategic settlements in the vicinity of the city of El Quseir in the province of Homs. The command reported that security was restored after battles with foreign fighters in Western Damnia, Ish al-Barbara and al-Haidaria.

      The Syrian armed forces colonel told France Presse that control of the villages had been restored after a three-hour battle and that the supply to the blocked militant group in Al Quseir was completely cut off. Communication between gangs in Homs and Al Quseir has also been discontinued.

      Near the liberated villages, dozens of explosive devices planted by terrorists were neutralized. During the operation, at least a hundred militants were killed, many of their shelters and vehicles were destroyed. Confiscated weapons of various types and calibers, including US-made ones.

      The Syrian agency SANA also reported that militants suffered heavy losses during the fighting near the villages of Umm al-Sakr, Al-Andalos, Kisin, al-Hamidiya, al-Haidaria, al-Bouweid al-Sharqiyah, al-Dabaa and al-Ganto in the province of Homs.


      War in Syria. Questions and answers. (part 1)

    11. +2
      14 May 2013 17: 37
      Russia terminated the agreement with Azerbaijan on the transit of Azerbaijani oil through Russian territory.



      The corresponding order was signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
      Russian Federation terminated oil transit agreement with Azerbaijan
      The Russian Foreign Ministry was instructed to notify Azerbaijan of the termination of the agreement on the transit of Azerbaijani oil. The agreement was signed in Moscow in January 1996. The agreement provided for the pumping of at least 5 million tons of oil per year through the Baku-Novorossiysk pipeline. The tariff for pumping was $ 15,67 per ton.

      Meanwhile, the State Oil Company of Azerbaijan (SOCAR) supplies about 2 million tons of oil per year through this pipeline. In 2010, pumping amounted to 2,2 million tons, in 2011-2012. - 2 million tons each.

      In 2013, it is planned to reduce pumping to 1,6 million tons.

      SOCAR connects the reduction in pumping volume for 2013 with the fact that the company intends to channel part of the oil for refining. In the future, Russia and Azerbaijan may conclude a new oil transit agreement.
    12. luka095
      +2
      14 May 2013 20: 38
      There is nothing surprising in this. They always do this. The main thing is their interests. And everyone else should always not infringe on these interests.
      But in this case, it seems, has found a "democratic" scythe on the "Russian" stone.
    13. Reasonable, 2,3
      0
      15 May 2013 03: 37
      Throwing info, not an article. And not our throwing.
    14. +1
      15 May 2013 12: 35
      Quote: Vanek
      Well, this is generally rudeness. They support their "allies" (opposition) and ask us NOT to support their allies (Assad).

      Quite right, we should ask the president: Benny, if you are not going to bomb Damascus, what threat does the s-300 pose for you? But political correctness will not allow it, and Assad will surrender a victim of aggression, how to give it a drink. I draw these conclusions on the basis of the deathly silence of our president, who does not give a meaningful answer to the actions of the aggressor.
    15. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      15 May 2013 13: 56
      Vanek, you understand correctly, this is not an overt pressure on RUSSIA, they think that Putin will run to execute the command on the circles, but we'll see !!!
    16. Quiet
      0
      15 May 2013 21: 35
      Maybe I don’t understand something.

      hi Sorry sire, if you start to understand them, your place in the psychiatric hospital !!!
    17. 0
      16 May 2013 21: 58
      Quote: Vanek
      Well, this is generally rudeness. They support their "allies" (opposition) and ask us NOT to support their allies (Assad).

      Maybe I don’t understand something.

      Sorry, but I'm afraid you don’t understand! These people, all Jews by blood, one way or another, are not blown away by the sound logic and concepts of honesty with which you operate!
    18. 0
      18 May 2013 04: 10
      They are simply overgrown with permissiveness .. hi
  2. politruk419
    +6
    14 May 2013 07: 29
    All of you understand correctly. And they will be sent .....
    1. Irtysh
      +5
      14 May 2013 10: 02
      Definitely need to send. Moreover, Syria is an excellent springboard for organizing attacks on Qatar and other emirates with the hands of these same gangs of formations. Soon it will be time to crush these bastards in their own nests.

      So they fuss, ride, beg ...
  3. politruk419
    0
    14 May 2013 07: 29
    All of you understand correctly. And they will be sent .....
  4. 0
    14 May 2013 07: 31
    Yes, Russia needs to stupidly annex the embargo on the supply of arms to Syria in a few months, of course - they will start crowing, and now they will deliver two for the place of one c300 system.
    1. +8
      14 May 2013 08: 36
      Kamrad annex- means to seize.
      PS: Do not consider it a bookworm, just terminology. wink
      1. 0
        15 May 2013 13: 13
        Sorry, not my native language - I thought to be clever. I wanted to write "cancel", but "annex" sounds more solid. Ihihi.
        1. 0
          15 May 2013 20: 53
          Ah, then it’s clear. lol hi drinks
  5. mogus
    +6
    14 May 2013 07: 31
    Russia does not supply the C300 to Syria - Israel is bombing Iran, flying over Syria. The region burns even stronger.
    Russia supplies C300 to Syria - Iran helps Syria.
    Libya is destroyed. Iraq is occupied. Syria and Iran remained ...
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 09: 31
      Time to collect stones. I think the delivery of the S-300 is not limited. Thinking of looking at the map.
      1. +9
        14 May 2013 12: 02
        Quote: Michelle
        Time to collect stones. I think the delivery of the S-300 is not limited. Thinking of looking at the map.


        NATO continues its expansion on the borders of Russia as part of the creation of Euro-missile defense in Eastern Europe and Turkey. So-called Arab spring is rapidly changing the region of the Near and Middle East, with the aim of destabilizing the situation in the Caucasus, providing a strong impetus to the Islamists and separatists operating in Russia. An attack on Syria could be the basis for an attack on Iran, and the fall of Tehran will be the fall of the entire southern edge of Russia. This means the control of NATO and the United States over the entire Middle East, with great geopolitical damage to the Russian government, which will be involved again in the hot phase of local military conflicts on its borders and within the country with the Islamists in full coordination with NATO. This will provoke a disintegration process similar to the fall of the Soviet Union; Putin does not want such a terrible scenario. Assad’s support and resistance to plans for American hegemony in Syria is a preventive war against the collapse of the Russian Federation as a sovereign and independent state and as a major player in regional and global politics. We should not accept America's proposals that will lead to the results of the Libyan scenario. It is important for us that Aleppo does not become the “second Benghazi” and that Assad does not receive the same outcome as Gaddafi. The outlook for the West is clear: today Damascus, tomorrow Tehran, and then Moscow.

      2. Quiet
        0
        15 May 2013 21: 41
        Time to collect stones. I think the delivery of the S-300 is not limited. Thinking of looking at the map.

        Yes, there is not far off and the Russian fleet listlessly (so far) moves its screws ..... recourse
  6. +15
    14 May 2013 07: 38
    Despite the fact that I am not overwhelmed with optimism regarding the supply of S-300 to Syria by Russia. Nevertheless, it is necessary to pay tribute to the Syrian government that it shows much more maturity, political and military will in the fight against terrorism than the former Libyan government.
    I wish Assad and his government success.
    1. +9
      14 May 2013 07: 49
      If Mr. President of the Russian Federation blocked the UN decision on the introduction without a flight zone over Libya at one time, then there were no soldiers in Syria, and Gaddafi would be alive ...
      IMHO
      1. +4
        14 May 2013 10: 41
        IPhone? You laugh, this is Gorbachev’s reincarnation, the weakest and most weak-willed, and especially the pro-Western president.
        1. vkusniikorj
          +2
          14 May 2013 10: 50
          I wonder who proposed him to this post? Which party supported and whose people voted for this Aizenmazla?
          1. +1
            14 May 2013 16: 11
            Quote: vkusniikorj
            I wonder who proposed him to this post? Which party supported and whose people voted for this Aizenmazla?

            A candidate was proposed by Putin, no one knew how he would prove himself, the only thing he did was to transfer power back to Putin.
        2. SASCHAmIXEEW
          +1
          15 May 2013 16: 41
          This zh.osionistsky feed up St. Petersburg Jews, worked as a prezik to the State Department, and not to RUSSIA !!!
        3. Quiet
          +1
          15 May 2013 22: 03
          Last news !!! Medvedev refused an iPhone, so that people would not think that he sulked at computer games at meetings !!!! laughing good
      2. +2
        14 May 2013 14: 44
        If Gaddafi (with all due respect to his domestic political successes) did not try to sit on two chairs pro-Russian and pro-Western, then he would still be alive.
        1. 0
          14 May 2013 20: 37
          Quote: alicante11
          If Gaddafi (with all due respect to his domestic political successes), did not try to sit on two chairs

          good good good
        2. 0
          14 May 2013 22: 55
          Quote: alicante11
          If Gaddafi (with all due respect to his domestic political successes) did not try to sit on two chairs pro-Russian and pro-Western, then he would still be alive.

          Rather, more pro-Western, oh, he was very friendly with the French, and they answered him kindly ..... They brought democracy .......
        3. +1
          15 May 2013 08: 29
          I agree that the Gaddafi family financed the election programs of some Western politicians, in particular Nicolas Sarkozy, the guy tried to cover his backs - "I didn't guess."
          However, the iPhone betrayed not only Libya, but also the economic interests of Russian companies Gazprom, Russian Railways, etc.
          And the Kolomna engineering bureau under a Libyan order took a sickly loan, fulfilled it, brought it, gave it to the customer and Dima forbade signing the TRANSFER documents ... As a result, the Kolomna people did not receive money for the completed order and pay the loan by cutting bonuses to the hard workers ...
  7. +1
    14 May 2013 07: 43

    It is very interesting that publications about the planned supply of anti-aircraft systems appeared only a few hours after the completion of the official visit to Russia by US Secretary of State J. Kerry. During the visit, among other things, the Syrian issue was also discussed. No progress has been made in this regard ...

    What is Russia? Last Friday, British Prime Minister J. Cameron arrived in our country. The main topics of his talks with Russian President V. Putin, as reported, were the situation in Syria and related international problems. It is worth noting that Cameron’s arrival in Russia became known just a couple of days before the visit. Probably, the issues discussed were so important that the British Prime Minister urgently changed the schedule of his trips .....

    Now Israel will be the first in the "line" trying to convince Russia.


    Ah, how hot!
    And they tried to send all the vassals, and the overlord himself was honored (though who is the vassal and who is the overlord is a rather interesting question).

    Already funny out!
    In no case can Russia "turn on the back"!
    Let them bake even more.
    They will backfire on Yugoslavia and the rest of them "democratized" by them.
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 14: 45
      Well, the last one to go is the main one :).
  8. pribolt
    +3
    14 May 2013 07: 46
    Just read an interesting article + Although I liked Volodin more, in principle, the same topic was only with Alexei briefly and with humor +
  9. +2
    14 May 2013 07: 49
    According to Putin, the Syrian military will receive all the military equipment that they ordered earlier.

    Someone in the subject, and what other equipment, in addition to the S-300, were ordered by the Syrians?
    1. +3
      14 May 2013 07: 53
      There was talk about Iskander, but there is no official information and Iskander - offensive weapons and come under UN sanctions.

      Although if presses am
      1. +4
        14 May 2013 08: 36
        if the Iskanders had driven there, then the Jews and Turks would have crap in full, and no iron dome and all the rest of their shnyag would have helped, and I would have had to think 200 times to make another raid on Syria!
        1. +1
          14 May 2013 11: 34
          Quote: kostyan77708
          if the Iskanders had driven there, then the Jews and Turks would have crap in full, and no iron dome and the rest of their shnyag would have helped

          Yes, their "iron dome" is another advertised shnyaga for knocking down flying beer bottles lol Bubble was thrown in nemery - it is necessary at least in words to declare the "incredible" efficiency of knocking down gas homemade products! laughing
        2. +2
          14 May 2013 12: 11
          Iskaneder .... and with an easy movement the iron dome turns ... turns into a HOLLY DOME)
          1. +2
            14 May 2013 12: 18
            Quote: Clever man
            Iskaneder .... and with an easy movement the iron dome turns ... turns into a HOLLY DOME)

            IN DRUSHLAG! laughing (you can sift pasta) laughing laughing
      2. +3
        14 May 2013 10: 20
        Russia did not sign any sanctions on Syria, and the UN Security Council did not sanction UN sanctions against Syria.
  10. +6
    14 May 2013 07: 52
    I'm shocked belay, these tovasssschi Jews completely already or what ??? Or are they trying to find fools themselves ??? I would have understood if they had not bombed Syria and screamed it is not necessary to drive the C300 there. Well, in this situation, it's just ......
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 08: 56
      Quote: avant-garde
      these Jews tovarsssschi already or what ???

      "And what is wrong? They still apologize wildly, but want to ask? And if five?"
    2. 0
      14 May 2013 14: 46
      And if they hadn’t bombed, then what would these complexes be in the way for them :)?
  11. +1
    14 May 2013 07: 52
    Russia intends to fulfill its obligations under the contract with Syria and within the next few months will deliver to it the C-2010 anti-aircraft missile systems ordered in 300

    This is good news. It would be nice to add Shell C and Iskander for a complete set.
    1. djon3volta
      +3
      14 May 2013 08: 21
      Quote: radio operator
      Iskander

      Iskander is already another weapon, whether it’s a lie to sell it quietly, maybe it falls under the offensive weapon, and not defensive. I know ..
      1. alex1309
        +1
        14 May 2013 09: 36
        Or maybe mark the package S-300 and make additional investments in the parcels ...
    2. +3
      14 May 2013 11: 48
      Quote: radio operator
      What a news. It would be nice to add Shell C and Iskander for a complete set.

      Educational program: Missile-gun air defense system "Pantsir S" in the amount of 27 pieces has long been on alert in Syria. Performance characteristics (in particular, range up to 20 km) as well as other objective reasons have not allowed to use it for its intended purpose until now. The performance characteristics of the S-300 will allow Syria to easily create a no-fly zone over the entire region. Ending Israel's military superiority in the region. That's why the Israelis are so fussing about crying
  12. +8
    14 May 2013 07: 59
    Again 25 ... S-300 will in no way solve the Syrian problem of protecting the sky. As supplies of S-75/125/200 did not help at the time. And if at that time the inefficiency of ground-based air defense was attributed to poor training in calculations and techniques, then what gentlemen of the patriots do you expect now? Now Syria does not even have BAD trained specialists on the S-300, because there are none at all. If in the 70s they were prepared in the USSR (and more than one year), then where will they be prepared in a large-scale civil war? Or do you think that the S-300 with its presence will scare the Israeli Air Force?
    1. 0
      14 May 2013 08: 17
      Quote: Nayhas
      If in the 70s they were prepared in the USSR (and more than one year), then where will they be prepared in a large-scale civil war? Or do you think that the S-300 with its presence will scare the Israeli Air Force?

      So I am sure that they will not help in any way. The professor here I remember saying "... that you are like children right ..." and "... it will turn out like with armor." And he knows what he says. and nothing more to say about the dangers that will lie in wait for air defense divisions on the ground. For example, a trivial betrayal that in the conditions of a civil war, business is common.
      1. 0
        14 May 2013 08: 20
        With 300, it seems, should "work" in conjunction with C 200, no?
        1. +1
          14 May 2013 08: 23
          not necessarily
        2. 0
          14 May 2013 21: 28
          Che, and weakly answer the case and not just minus a person? He’ll easily pereminusinuet all of you when you think of writing for hypersound. Not good...
      2. Irtysh
        +6
        14 May 2013 10: 06
        There is no civil war in Syria. There is an attack of paid groups of bandits, fanatics and mercenaries.
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          15 May 2013 16: 50
          Absolutely right! And they need to be destroyed, not negotiate! And without prisoners !!!
    2. djon3volta
      +17
      14 May 2013 08: 18
      Quote: Nayhas
      what gentlemen patriots do you expect now?

      But why did panic rise from the United States, Britain and Israel? If C-300 is not effective, what did this klopovnik stir as scalded ran, then to Putin then to each other.
      1. 120352
        +1
        14 May 2013 09: 00
        And they have panic because tomorrow we will be able to officially declare that these C300s are a continuation of the missile defense system, which the anti-Russian coalition is deploying along our borders: this, they say, we also decided to participate in your defense initiative, so thank you, our caring ! As you can see, your concept has finally reached us! Well, and where any rocket will fly - you ask her. Rockets are made of iron. And "for the defense of America from the Syrians and Iranians" it would be necessary to return the missiles to Chukotka, opposite Alaska, otherwise the Arabs are cunning ...
        But I wonder how much the C300 needs to be rebooted so that the UK turns into Atlantis? Or is there something suitable besides her? Purely theoretical interest!
        1. Misantrop
          +11
          14 May 2013 11: 13
          Quote: 120352
          to Britain turned into Atlantis? Or is there something suitable besides her? Purely theoretical interest!

          8 of the 16 available missiles on the 667A project nuclear submarine were guaranteed to cope with this task
      2. -11
        14 May 2013 09: 07
        Quote: djon3volta
        Quote: Nayhas
        what gentlemen patriots do you expect now?

        But why did panic rise from the United States, Britain and Israel? If C-300 is not effective, what did this klopovnik stir as scalded ran, then to Putin then to each other.

        C-300 may or may not be effective, I think during this time NATO has learned how to counteract C-300. But C-300 will be effective at all 100% against civilian airliners that will fall into its zone, and as far as I understand from the news, basically everyone makes noise because the same rebels can use weapons against civilian planes if they capture them.
        1. +6
          14 May 2013 10: 38
          Quote: Atrix
          as far as I understand from the news, basically everyone makes a fuss because the same rebels can use weapons against civilian aircraft if they capture them.

          And what is the use of being captured, they cannot shoot from them.
        2. +1
          14 May 2013 14: 49
          And who will teach the rebels, how to use it?
          1. SASCHAmIXEEW
            +1
            15 May 2013 17: 00
            There are no rebels, there are mercenaries and Islamists !!!
        3. +3
          14 May 2013 15: 42
          while air defense against civilian aircraft was used only by Americans and Ukrainians
        4. Misantrop
          +2
          14 May 2013 15: 48
          Quote: Atrix
          I think during this time NATO learned how to counteract the S-300.
          If they still have not learned how to counteract RPG-7 ... lol
      3. -9
        14 May 2013 09: 20
        I think the presence of "panic" is an invention of the national agitprop, most likely there are only fears and some bewilderment. The Israeli military will only have an additional task of neutralizing the complex, which they are able to cope with. I am 100% sure that they will find out the location of the S-300 position in a timely manner (it is very difficult to hide the S-300, especially in a country where the loyalty of the population to the authorities is low), the Israeli Air Force has enough means for remote destruction, it only remains to receive an order .. ...
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        2. +1
          14 May 2013 15: 36
          “I think the presence of" panic "is an invention of the national agitprop,

          Well, if an invention, then somehow strange Netanyahu rushed to negotiations.

          Vladimir Putin and Benjamin Netanyahu discussed current issues on the bilateral and regional agenda, in particular the situation in Syria. (14.05.2013/14/30 XNUMX-XNUMX Moscow time)
      4. skeptic-
        +3
        14 May 2013 09: 41
        Quote: djon3volta
        But why did panic rise from the United States, Britain and Israel? If C-300 is not effective, what did this klopovnik stir as scalded ran, then to Putin then to each other.


        Everything is much simpler. Behind the scenes, the plan outlined, and they, the assholes, are breaking the deadlines.
      5. +1
        14 May 2013 23: 29
        I think Putin needs to fly to Tehran. And then make ambiguous hints. Then in Israel, some will faint.
    3. +10
      14 May 2013 10: 32
      You are wrong, dear, Syrian crews have been trained to work on C-300 for 2 years, from the moment of signing contracts for 2012 for the year inclusive, and passed all exams, including live firing.
      1. -3
        14 May 2013 12: 35
        Well, it is hoped that they did not desert ...
    4. +3
      14 May 2013 10: 33
      Quote: Nayhas
      If in the 70s they were prepared in the USSR (and more than one year), then where will they be prepared in a large-scale civil war?

      Actually, there was information that they (specialists) were ready for a long time and were trained in Russia.
    5. -12
      14 May 2013 10: 33
      Quote: Nayhas
      ? Or do you think that the S-300 with its presence will scare the Israeli Air Force?


      Nah, rather, the Jews will capture them and take them apart by bolts. And the rest will be destroyed along with untrained personnel.
      1. Scythian 35
        +3
        14 May 2013 13: 37
        Jews have long dismantled the cogs S-300, together with the Americans who received them a long time ago !!!
        1. 0
          14 May 2013 15: 43
          If memory serves, then Belarusians in the 90s sold the export version of the S-300 through several countries to the states. It was a business ...
          1. Irtysh
            +2
            14 May 2013 17: 34
            It was a planned delivery, multi-way. Yes, they slagged them for 90 million. But then what could they do about it? Full embarrassment was for amers.
            1. 0
              14 May 2013 20: 06
              Irtysh! But it was ?! I remember, our specialists justified themselves, they say the export option, they won’t understand anything ... There was a thing. Nick you Siberian !? Do you like Irtysh?
          2. Irtysh
            0
            14 May 2013 17: 35
            It was a planned delivery, multi-way. Yes, they slagged them for 90 million. But then what could they do about it? Full embarrassment was for amers.
    6. 0
      14 May 2013 12: 12
      Quote: Nayhas
      Or do you think that the S-300 with its presence will scare the Israeli Air Force?

      Not presence. And the closest "acquaintance"! laughing The S-300 is supposed to be delivered to Syria not as a garden scarecrow. Well, you get it, right?
    7. 0
      14 May 2013 14: 48
      They will put our specialists for management. As the Korean pilot Lee Si Tsun fought in the skies of Korea :).
  13. +5
    14 May 2013 08: 04
    Do you think fools in Syria like that, hell knows how many bobbles are being sucked in and put them (C300) in a museum, and you Jews don’t worry, bomb us further !! At least it sounds strange. So our specialists will go there.
    1. djon3volta
      +9
      14 May 2013 08: 15
      Quote: avant-garde
      So our specialists will go there.

      it is possible that they have been there for a long time, how many times our people sailed there, passenger planes fly, specialists can get in there under the guise of tourists. yes, and if they are strained there, the media vryatly get to know about it.
    2. Irtysh
      +2
      14 May 2013 10: 10
      Moreover, specialists who are able to turn the invading gangs against Israel, Qatar and other sources of concern for Russia. Gazprom will sponsor.
      1. +3
        14 May 2013 12: 31
        Quote: Irtysh
        Moreover, specialists who are able to turn the invading gangs against Israel, Qatar and other sources of concern for Russia. Gazprom will sponsor.

        "Gazprom will sponsor" belay laughing is a good option! Gazprom distances itself from foreign policy lol bypassing the Foreign Ministry. Russia does not bear political responsibility for the actions of its companies, not considering it necessary to intervene in such trifles as arms supplies, lobbying for business interests (Gazprom will figure it out lol ) So all questions to Gazprom. And Gazprom has one answer, if anything, turn off GAZ! hi
  14. djon3volta
    +4
    14 May 2013 08: 11
    appealed to official Moscow with a request not to send to Syria its anti-aircraft missile systems ordered by it.

    it's like if it rains, they will tell me - you can’t open the umbrella, you should get wet. Here you have a newspaper and cover it, but don’t use the umbrella, we forbid it!
  15. +15
    14 May 2013 08: 19
    If we consider that the contract for the supply of C-300 was signed back in 2010, then Syria already has specialists. They successfully trained in these 2 years in Russia, so the Syrian authorities and the military should not be considered to be a dumber locomotive :-)))
    IMHO
  16. pakfa-t-50
    +2
    14 May 2013 08: 21
    Well, after our delivery From 300 to Syria ISRAEL AND TURKEY fighter bomb Syria
    1. -1
      14 May 2013 09: 13
      Quote: pakfa-t-50
      Well, after our delivery From 300 to Syria ISRAEL AND TURKEY fighter bomb Syria

      Do not be afraid. You need to understand that there is a war for resources. Do you really think that the fear of losing a couple of dozen aircraft will stop them ?! Well, we put these missiles, and then what? All the same, sooner or later they will be gouged by air-radar-type cruise missiles. Syria is surrounded by enemies or puppets of the West. On the one hand, Turkey. from another Israel, from a third Saudi, a civil war in Iraq .......
      1. +2
        14 May 2013 14: 51
        So why have not yet been gouged? Even without C-300?
  17. +11
    14 May 2013 08: 28
    The issue with the supply of the S-300 is a test for "lice". If Russia defends its position and the right to fulfill its obligations, regardless of third countries, then this is a signal that Russia realizes its FORCE (as GDP says - "soft power"). In any case, it is a matter of principle, because Russia can no longer "bluff" like Korea.
    1. skeptic-
      +3
      14 May 2013 10: 05
      Quote: GrBear
      The issue with the supply of the S-300 is a test for "lice". If Russia defends its position and the right to fulfill its obligations, regardless of third countries, then this is a signal that Russia realizes its POWER


      Well, it would be nice to "support the international rebels" in Syria. For example, cartridges and grenade launchers, which will help them self-neutralize, without risking their lives, ordinary Syrians.
  18. vania
    +1
    14 May 2013 08: 29
    it is necessary to send more "defensive" planes such as su 35, so that more crap.
    1. 120352
      0
      14 May 2013 08: 49
      And what do we need to experience?
  19. +1
    14 May 2013 08: 37
    "but it cannot be ruled out that the Russian leadership, following a mass of lengthy negotiations, will graciously agree to cut off the supply of air defense systems to Syria."

    This is the worst thing that can happen. For this is another Libya and the loss of face in the international arena.
    1. 0
      14 May 2013 08: 54
      I don't think this will happen, unless the conflict will drag on for several years and the Western dummy "ala Medvedev" will come to replace the GDP
      1. +5
        14 May 2013 08: 59
        Quote: King
        the place of GDP will be replaced by the Western dummy "ala Medvedev"

        Sorry, but tipun your tongue!
  20. k220150
    +2
    14 May 2013 08: 59
    There is a vague suspicion (the story with Iran as a precedent) that "everything will repeat itself from the beginning." The context heightens suspicion.
  21. +3
    14 May 2013 09: 12
    Quote: Atlon
    Is the third world?


    So it’s already going on: some battles with the use of real weapons (Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria), and in parallel with the battle of information intelligence services and diplomatic fronts.
  22. Maitre
    -19
    14 May 2013 09: 14
    Guys, I don't want to upset you here, but Russia will make a marketing mistake by selling the S-300 to Syria. For in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.
    1. +6
      14 May 2013 09: 51
      Here you are unfortunately right. How many complexes are going to put there ?! That's it. And if we take into account the ability to work intelligence of Israel, and in general we can be guessed in full. Syria is not at all Russian open spaces and these notorious 75km. mountains can very easily zamusnovat.
    2. Phoenix s
      +10
      14 May 2013 10: 12
      "lossless" - blessed are those who believe)))
      If they are "destroyed without loss," why did Israel become so alarmed that it began to ASK Russia not to sell the S-300 to Syria? Just don't say that the Jews are worried about the trade interests of Syria's main ally laughing
      1. Maitre
        -15
        14 May 2013 10: 26
        We do not want this, option, because when the S-300 is destroyed, Russian advisers will die. I'd like to avoid this
        1. +15
          14 May 2013 10: 37
          Quote: Master
          We do not want this, option, because when the S-300 is destroyed, Russian advisers will die. I'd like to avoid this

          And when you sold weapons to Georgia, you also thought about the Russian peacekeepers, or now, having trained Georgian special forces, you probably also think about the Russians?
          I really hope that very soon the Russian advisers will feel the faces of the downed Israeli Air Force pilots.
        2. Misantrop
          +16
          14 May 2013 11: 20
          Quote: Master
          We do not want this, option, because when the S-300 is destroyed, Russian advisers will die.
          Loving Israel does not even doubt his Right destroy DEFENSE means in the territory of a SOVEREIGN state. You guys are not fucking there? Who do you feel, not gods? belay
          1. -6
            14 May 2013 11: 35
            Quote: Misantrop
            You guys are not fucking there

            where were you when Syria provided Lebanese hezbole rockets. from these missiles people perished in the territory of a sovereign state. And I forgot that it’s not people, it’s Jews. sorry
            1. +6
              14 May 2013 11: 59
              Quote: igor67
              were you when Syria provided Lebanese hezbole rockets

              You probably saw the waybills: supplier-Syria, recipient-Hezbollah?
              1. -4
                14 May 2013 12: 14
                Quote: mhpv
                Quote: igor67
                were you when Syria provided Lebanese hezbole rockets

                You probably saw the waybills: supplier-Syria, recipient-Hezbollah?

                and that the Syrian leadership ever hid the fact of the supply of weapons to hezbola?
                1. +4
                  14 May 2013 15: 47
                  as a compatriot said Professor "But what about the presumption of innocence?" , or should this presumption only apply to Israel?
            2. Misantrop
              +3
              14 May 2013 15: 54
              Quote: igor67
              But I forgot that it’s not people, it’s Jews. sorry
              Guys, who is the doctor for you, if ALL your neighbors perceive you that way? .. And most of the planet is similar ... Note, I do not mean specifically individual people, we are talking about GOVERNMENT POLICY... request
              1. -1
                14 May 2013 16: 30
                Quote: Misantrop
                Quote: igor67
                But I forgot that it’s not people, it’s Jews. sorry
                Guys, who is the doctor for you, if ALL your neighbors perceive you that way? .. And most of the planet is similar ... Note, I do not mean specifically individual people, we are talking about GOVERNMENT POLICY... request

                In what way is the Israeli government's policy hindering you? Well, yes, but from what side, we Arabs have more rights than other strata of the population, a simple example, while our witnesses serve in the army, they study right after school at universities, after three years of service and a year of working out what knowledge remains? Now in hospitals half Arabs doctors and nurses, lawyers too, the police,. If you go to Arab villages to look at their houses and cars and compare how we live, I do not like it, but what do you want? At the expense of the neighbors: more than eight thousand officers and soldiers with the families of the Arabs CHRISTIANS (Tsadalniks) fled to Israel from Lebanon, Muslims (hesbola) who were supported by the USSR and now Russia now live on their lands. I am on good terms with one former officer, until the last moment he thought that Orthodox Russia was on their side (poor fellow), he talked a lot about "Russian" doctors and military men, only I explained to him that these are Russian Jews, and Christians are on the other side with Hezbola , he almost cried. he could not understand why Russia is on the side of Hezboll, and do not take off
                1. +3
                  14 May 2013 17: 17
                  Strange!
                  They sympathize with you to tears, and you bomb them all and bomb them.
                  Indeed, in Syria, Christians and Alawites (civilian Muslims) for Assad.
                  Gentlemen of the Jews, you set your house on fire because you don’t know how to get along with your neighbors and this is your national trait and tragedy in genes for millennia.
                  You yourself are to blame for all your troubles.
                  Another your problem is the lack of ability to adequate self-criticism.
                  1. SASCHAmIXEEW
                    +1
                    15 May 2013 17: 18
                    For a Jew, the rest of the world is a goyim who should serve the Jews! Is it not so in the Talmud? Jews, yes or no? Only for garlic! We are able to read!
            3. Irtysh
              +1
              14 May 2013 17: 42
              These were the necessary sacrifices for the cause of peace.

              I am returning to you the answer of some of your leaders regarding the bombing of Syria. Sorry for the cynicism.
        3. Kuzkin Batyan
          0
          14 May 2013 12: 22
          The army general writes here on behalf of the army of Israel)))
          1. 0
            14 May 2013 12: 37
            Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
            The army general writes here on behalf of the army of Israel)))

            Are you confused?
            1. Irtysh
              +4
              14 May 2013 17: 53
              Personally, I am upset by all the sophistry that spills over from the Israelis. Press professionally on pity, you can’t say anything. But if you turn on your head, your fists clench and you want to move between your eyes.

              Sorry for the frankness, but apparently, your fellow tribesmen do not like this all over the world.
        4. Kaa
          +2
          14 May 2013 13: 43
          Quote: Master
          when the S-300 is destroyed, Russian advisers will die
          And the nth number of precious Israeli raiders crying Indeed you
          Quote: Master
          I'd like to avoid this
          I understand and sympathize hi
        5. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          15 May 2013 17: 12
          No, you are sending that along with the-300, there will come a guard that will not let you near the complex, and therefore to Syria !!
    3. Irtysh
      +3
      14 May 2013 10: 13
      Bibi is a shitty marketer. Look, how scared, he bowed for a bow ... Where is the World heading?
    4. skeptic-
      +4
      14 May 2013 10: 18
      Quote: Master
      Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.


      Because of its unjustified and vile aggression, Israel can eventually cease to exist prematurely. Therefore, Israel should not poke its nose where its dog ... does not stick. am
      1. Maitre
        -13
        14 May 2013 10: 28
        Dear, you would be worried about Russia, Russians will soon be a minority with the Caucasian-Muslim majority. And with Israel everything will be in openwork, do not worry about us so
        1. +9
          14 May 2013 10: 55
          Quote: Master
          Dear, you would be worried about Russia, Russians will soon be a minority with the Caucasian-Muslim majority. And with Israel everything will be in openwork, do not worry about us so

          But actually, what do you want to convince us of?
          In the fact that people like you are the worst enemies of Russia?
          Yes, here most know it. (Just don’t need to be hypocritical and try to turn things around. It's already very tired and only more annoying.)
          Is the S-300 a bad system?
          Well, the fact that she never fought is her best advertisement.
          But you’re right, it’s time to conduct an additional PR campaign for the S-300 and there is no better place than Syria now.
          1. +1
            14 May 2013 16: 37
            Quote: ATATA
            Well, the fact that she never fought is her best advertisement.

            Yes, the Jews are simply scared, because the S-300 can set up without a flight zone over Israel .......
            1. 0
              14 May 2013 17: 20
              Quote: ziqzaq
              Yes, the Jews are simply scared, because the S-300 can set up without a flight zone over Israel .......

              To the point.
        2. Vanek
          +2
          14 May 2013 11: 00
          Quote: Master
          do not worry


          Yes, no one is especially worried about you.
        3. Misantrop
          +6
          14 May 2013 11: 24
          Quote: Master
          Russians will soon be a minority with the caucasian-Muslim majority.
          Moreover, which is typical, through the efforts of representatives of YOUR people. Which does not add love to Israel, although it is not directly involved here ... request
          1. Maitre
            -2
            14 May 2013 18: 18
            Read an open letter to the great Russian people
            You can’t say better

            http://russiandenver.50megs.com/liberberg.html
            1. +3
              14 May 2013 18: 55
              Quote: Master
              Read an open letter to the great Russian people

              And that this, if I may say so, "author" showed in this opus his Russophobia, his complexes, with this to the psychoanalyst, one can be ironic about this, but to take such nonsense seriously, in my opinion, is ridiculous! hi
            2. 0
              17 May 2013 04: 36
              I tried to follow the link. The French and Ukrainians, in the author's opinion, are such that they do not deserve mention. The very first phrase about the Russians is saturated with such zoological Russophobia that it makes no sense to read further. Another vyser of the "God's chosen" people.
              Still, G.P. Klimov is right: Jews are not a nation, but a community of degenerates.
        4. Nesvet Nezar
          +10
          14 May 2013 11: 36
          Quote: Master
          Dear, you would be worried about Russia, Russians will soon be a minority with the Caucasian-Muslim majority. And with Israel everything will be in openwork, do not worry about us so


          Is there a math problem? There are 110 million Russians (excluding Orthodox Chuvashs, Mordovians, Little Russians, Komi), and Muslims and those who are classified as Caucasians in Russia have a maximum of 10 million. Now, find statistics on Geyrop (Germany, England, France) and wipe off. (Our Muslims are local. This is their homeland. Unlike the Muslims of Geyropa. Which sneeze on everyone and everything) Even Russian fist fights with legalized executions of the losing side will turn Russians into a minority much later than Europe as a whole and Srail, in particular in particular .. Nationalities of Srail: 6 (000%) - Jews; 042 (75,3%) - Arabs; Do you count the percentage? How many immigrants from the USSR who call themselves Jews live in Srail? So what is it for the Jews, in the stolen Srail, you still have to do and do sekas or ..? kill kill kill? ....
          1. Dima67
            +1
            14 May 2013 16: 16
            Nesarya Nezarya.AI YOUNG. good
          2. Irtysh
            +1
            14 May 2013 18: 06
            Also, I want to draw attention to the fact that more and more Jews begin to molt back to Russia, Belarus and Ukraine. Probably then, in order to increase the titular nationality of our countries.

            It seems to smell fried.
        5. +1
          14 May 2013 14: 01
          You need to worry, dear ... Russia was, is and will be!
        6. Dima67
          +1
          14 May 2013 16: 12
          Quote: Master
          Dear, you would be worried about Russia, Russians will soon be a minority with the Caucasian-Muslim majority. And with Israel everything will be in openwork, do not worry about us so

          Do not go where it is not necessary, and no one will touch you. Otherwise, strengthen the defense.
        7. Irtysh
          0
          14 May 2013 17: 58
          Do not take the conversation aside. Drop these cheap things of yours already, here people are adults - everyone understands.
        8. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          15 May 2013 17: 31
          As for lace, it’s unlikely that former seekers of the promised land are fleeing from Israel, and RUSSIA has existed for more than a thousand years and will continue to live as it lived, but you, as a kind, will probably not be there, you already got everyone ...
      2. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 17: 57
        Bibi is following in the footsteps of Saakashvili. Then do not be surprised that the result will be the same.
    5. Vanek
      +4
      14 May 2013 10: 40
      Quote: Master
      I do not want to upset you here


      I don’t want to upset you here, but Russia has already sold the S-300. According to Lavrov. With regards to believing him or not, I will believe him faster than those who accuse Syria of Turkish attacks.
    6. +5
      14 May 2013 10: 51
      Well, yes, yes, yes, to swallow the dust, as our president puts it, precisely because the Jews can easily and without loss be destroyed. 300, your prime minister, having gathered his ass in an armful, galloped to Russia to bow, yeah - we strongly believe that . In addition, it will be known to you that the C-300 models delivered to Syria have never been exported, so marketing can be safely flushed to the toilet, and 144 missiles to four divisions in the first delivery will sweep away almost a quarter of Israeli aviation with the first gulp, only now I think that with one batch of missiles the business will not end. In addition, the Shells, Buki and Tunguska complete with C-300 and our specialists, that is, instructors, are also not a pound of raisins.
    7. +11
      14 May 2013 11: 02
      You see, dear, besides a purely pragmatic approach to everything that you follow, there are other concepts and values. Friendship, for example. Russians whoever blamed there were always distinguished by friendship and mutual assistance. Therefore, the Russian and Soviet people won the war and liberated Geyropa. Friendship is a concept around the clock and is not measured by the thickness of a wallet. In addition to financial interest in selling our products, there are also concepts related to honor, conscience, dignity and, if you like, fraternity. To you wearing a bale, this is not understood, by virtue of your philosophy
      1. skeptic-
        +2
        14 May 2013 15: 16
        Purely according to your national habit, matrushik, take an advertising photo of someone else's military equipment and attribute your bluff (yes I, yes we). And this is the essence of the state of Israel. To grab someone else's, without a twinge of conscience, because you do not have it. negative
      2. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 10
        Are you trying to explain this to people who, for 30 coins, will drag an enemy WMD into their own bunker?
    8. 0
      14 May 2013 14: 54
      Java is it in every thread talking about Syria? You have already been told that if a couple of dozen "goering pirates" are flooded, then on the contrary, they will tear them off with their hands like hot cakes. And all the same, it is necessary to test the technique in a combat situation. Suddenly it will come in handy when the West gets bored with life.
      1. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 15
        Testing in real combat is an invaluable thing. Why not in Syria. And there the Turks will run into or the Israelis ... In the end, they were not invited to violate the laws of a sovereign state.
    9. Dima67
      0
      14 May 2013 16: 06
      Quote: Master
      Guys, I don't want to upset you here, but Russia will make a marketing mistake by selling the S-300 to Syria. For in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.

      We will see. He who does not do anything is not mistaken. Well, they count chickens in the fall.
    10. 0
      17 May 2013 03: 51
      Quote: Master
      Guys, I don't want to upset you here, but Russia will make a marketing mistake by selling the S-300 to Syria. For in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.

      Well, we still have Masada here, on our Russian site it was not enough, they spoil the mood with their shaking alone with the star of David!
  23. Maitre
    -33
    14 May 2013 09: 20
    The S-300 will go along the path of the Shell, which did not help the Syrians, but extremely difficult marketing system
    1. +19
      14 May 2013 09: 41
      Quote: Master
      The S-300 will go along the path of the Shell, which did not help the Syrians, but extremely difficult marketing system

      And did your planes enter the zone of the Carapace’s defeat, or did they bullet from the side on the border from behind the slide?
      The Shell has a range of targets for MAX 20 km.
      This is a complex of the near zone, it covers the C-300 from targets breaking through from far abroad.
      Your pilots know this, no need to dissemble.
      1. +15
        14 May 2013 10: 29
        Quote: ATATA
        And did your planes enter the zone of the Carapace’s defeat, or did they bullet from the side on the border from behind the slide?
        The Shell has a range of targets for MAX 20 km.
        This is a complex of the near zone, it covers the C-300 from targets breaking through from far abroad.
        Your pilots know this, no need to dissemble.

        The pilots know, but the Israeli trolls do not. lol
      2. +5
        14 May 2013 12: 55
        Quote: ATATA
        And did your planes enter the zone of the Carapace’s defeat, or did they bullet from the side on the border from behind the slide?
        The Shell has a range of targets for MAX 20 km.
        This is a complex of the near zone, it covers the C-300 from targets breaking through from far abroad.
        Your pilots know this, no need to dissemble.

        Absolutely right. As soon as the S-300 enters combat duty, Syria will receive air defense with double separation, radically changing the alignment of forces and the situation in the region (S-300 range with SAM 48N6E 5-150km!). The Israelites are well aware that the superiority of their Air Force will be nullified in one fell swoop, as was already the case in Vietnam. crying
        1. 0
          14 May 2013 16: 15
          Quote: GSH-18
          The Israelites are well aware that the superiority of their Air Force will be nullified in one fell swoop, as was already the case in Vietnam. crying

          As you say, the first 6 installations in the whole country, IMHO, it is not enough, at least 60 for complete shutdown.
          The second, mountainous terrain, you have to be a good specialist and correctly place c-300 so that you can effectively shoot down.
          Here are the Turks ironed.
    2. Nesvet Nezar
      +11
      14 May 2013 10: 08
      Where did the infa come from that he did not help? ... He was not even used. Because the Jews, like "sabaks, yapped from behind a corner" at the Syrian objects. Leave your marketing for the sale of kvass during someone else's fight .... I found here a beacon of economic theories EPT =))))))))))))))))))
      1. +5
        14 May 2013 10: 45
        Quote: Nesvet Nezarya
        Because the Jews, like "sabaks, yapped from behind a corner" at the Syrian objects.


        Do not talk nonsense! There are no rules in war! What do you think that airplanes should fly in an attack at an altitude convenient for air defense, at a specified time, and in a terrain convenient for you?
        There are 2 Scenarios!
        First: If the Syrians do not have enough trained for the C300 fighters, our system will be nothing more than an expensive toy that can be destroyed.

        But there is another scenario. The poorly trained "personnel" of the C 300 knocks down all the "EURO" targets in the air, and then the popularity and marketing of the C 300 in general skyrockets! They say even almost monkeys driving it shot down the wisest Jews on modern planes.
        1. Containers
          -3
          14 May 2013 13: 29
          And what is it - Israel officially declared war on Syria?
          1. -1
            15 May 2013 19: 29
            After the last Arab-Israeli war, a peace treaty between Israel and Syria was not signed. Legally, they have been at war all this time. How are we with Japan.
        2. +1
          14 May 2013 15: 13
          Quote: Manager
          What do you think that airplanes should fly in an attack at an altitude convenient for air defense, at a specified time, and in a terrain convenient for you?

          For this, the S-300 is supplied so that there are no "convenient" heights
        3. Irtysh
          0
          14 May 2013 18: 19
          About the wisest, you somehow bent :) and got excited.
    3. +7
      14 May 2013 11: 45
      Meter do not tell my yay ..... "The Israeli Air Force cannot read Russian" laughing
      When they fly into the "Pantsir" zone of action, they will start swearing in Russian. Let them grab cast iron pans under the ass. laughing
      1. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 22
        F-16 and F-15 will not pull such a load. The option is beautiful, but implausible.
    4. 0
      14 May 2013 14: 58
      Especially considering that your shot from neutral airspace.
      1. Irtysh
        +2
        14 May 2013 18: 25
        Why should we, guided by Jewish tricks, not shy at the terminals of Qatar and Saudi Arabia? And the militants will immediately stop rummaging anywhere;)

        Thanks Moishe for the science :)
    5. 0
      14 May 2013 15: 33
      Israeli Air Force can not read Russian.


      And in vain ...
  24. +5
    14 May 2013 09: 21
    It seems to me it's time to stop betraying the allies, and if VVP understands this, then there is something to think about ... How long can scoundrels be allowed to torment PEOPLES? It's time to put in place the presumptuous "liberators", but while these scum are freeing the people of Syria from life. And as for the howling abroad, it really hurts when I ... m with a sickle!
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 14: 50
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      How much can you let the villains torment the PEOPLES?

      How much pathos! Well, do not let the people be tormented, go ahead, sign up as a volunteer, go to Syria, fight. Russia did not betray anyone.
  25. White phoenix
    +6
    14 May 2013 09: 25
    Quote: Vanek
    Maybe I don’t understand something.

    it’s politics and that’s it. there is nothing to understand.

    in the event of a fall in the current Syrian regime for Russia, only vskidku will have to put up with some negative consequences, among which:
    - loss of an ally in the Middle East (with whom we have been working for more than 1 decade), hence the loss of face (once again)
    - loss of the naval base of the Russian Navy in Tartus, Syria
    - also in the case of Western intervention, a large-scale migration of refugees to the north is formed, i.e. Caucasus i.e. Russia, and we do not have time to cut out black migrants above the roof, and here also the Arabs will be added - do you personally need this as Russian citizens?
    - we also miss the great opportunity to test our weapons in a REAL theater of operations! moreover, in the skins of Western pilots and their henchmen (the states will stick in the last place for fear of losing their face and expensive equipment, they already know what the presence of Russian defense systems threatens)

    - news of the hour http://warfiles.ru/show-30845-izrail-predlozhit-razmestit-u-sebya-sredizemnomors
    kuyu-eskadru-vms-rossii.html

    Have you seen what these skins are ready for? then the stakes are really high =)

    all of the above - only my personal IMHO, a simple Russian person, glory to us =)
  26. 0
    14 May 2013 09: 36
    But if you think about it, then not everything is clear.
    That will put our 6 PU S-300 and 144 missiles. As I understand it, 6 launchers are 24 missiles ready for launch.
    With a massive raid they were released, and how long does it take to reload?
    How would all these 6 launchers die in a massive attack?
    Which of the specialists can comment on this idea?
    1. Grishka100watt
      0
      14 May 2013 10: 05
      Oh, and these guys should have eggs that will go there ..
    2. 0
      14 May 2013 11: 00
      Actually, 6 PU and 144 missiles are just the first batch, and I don’t know how the Syrians have a contract for the 4 division, but in our division it seems 18 PU if I’m not mistaken, if this is so, then this is a completely different scenario - this is there are already 288 missiles ready for launch, moreover, we get a multiple of the number of missiles in the first batch of deliveries hi
    3. Containers
      +2
      14 May 2013 13: 38
      The standard battery composition is 12 (4 + 8) PU. Put 4 batteries. Those. 48 rockets ready to launch. With the voiced probability of defeat 0.9 - this is 43 closed coffins to their homeland. Yes, even if 40 and 35 - they will not take such a risk. Tomahawks seem to me more dangerous than the Israeli Air Force planes themselves.
      1. 0
        14 May 2013 14: 14
        Quote: Kosha
        Tomahawks seem to me more dangerous than the Israeli Air Force planes themselves.

        About that and speech. Let's say 200 tomahawks hit in the first wave. In this situation, a significant amount will break through. Yes, there is an armor ... But there will be a 2nd wave.
        In short, this is a puzzle for specialists.
        1. Containers
          -2
          14 May 2013 14: 19
          And here the trick is that there are no tomahawks among the Jews. At least officially.
          1. 0
            14 May 2013 18: 08
            I do not know about the "Jews", but the Israelis have "Delilah". By the way, there was information that the S-300 is already in Syria. Well, we'll take a look. Of course, you will have to pay with the lives of our pilots if the command orders to break through the reinforced air defense of Syria, but there is nothing you can do about it. Let's get ready. The S-300 is a serious challenge, you won’t say anything.
            1. Maitre
              -1
              14 May 2013 18: 25
              Aaron, I can’t agree with you. I bet that if, God forbid, we have to solve this problem, then all our pilots will return home safely, and drones will suffer the most.
              1. +3
                14 May 2013 18: 33
                Quote: Master
                Aaron, I can’t agree with you. I bet that if, God forbid, we have to solve this problem, then all our pilots will return home safely, and drones will suffer the most.

                It is useless to argue with me on this subject; I am from 601 and in the air defense and air forces a pure tamer. I don’t have a depth of knowledge, but my comrade Air Defense Officer and the C-300 of the latest modifications, from what they were told about their capabilities, speaks exclusively with reverence. And the fact that the serious air forces, with sufficient time for preparation, tear any air defense from the USA to Zimbabwe, he also explained to me. The question is the price spit for a breakthrough. And here we are already talking about the means of a breakthrough and the time for its preparation.
    4. 0
      14 May 2013 15: 01
      First, destroying them is not so easy. They are usually covered by Buki and Armor. Plus mobility. So not everything is so bad.
  27. YaRusich
    +5
    14 May 2013 09: 40
    Quote: Master
    The S-300 will go along the path of the Shell, which did not help the Syrians, but extremely difficult marketing system

    the carapace and c300 solve problems at different ranges. The carapace is used to cover objects and is not intended to destroy enemy aircraft located in the territory of a neighboring state (the Israeli air forces attacked from Libya), but the S-300 can get these fans to shoot at someone else's good.
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 09: 46
      Quote: YaRusich
      Israeli air force strikes from Libya

      Did you want to say from Lebanon?
      1. skeptic-
        +2
        14 May 2013 10: 23
        Quote: ATATA
        Did you want to say from Lebanon?


        What is the essential difference in this - the main thing was shot, in Jewish, from around the corner.
        1. YaRusich
          0
          14 May 2013 11: 51
          Exactly. It seems that during the Second World War all honest Jews died, and only the minions of Judah remained, eh, regrettably.
    2. AK-47
      +2
      14 May 2013 11: 35
      Quote: YaRusich
      ... but the S-300 just might get such fans to shoot someone else's good.

      Not everything is so cloudless.
      In the 90s of the last century, the Israelis acquired the S-300 complex in its entirety - with radars, missiles and the necessary technological equipment. Later rockets and launchers were sold to Croatia "For parades", and the Israelis left radars for themselves to develop possible measures to counter this system. This work was successful: in the summer of 2001, representatives of the Israeli Air Force reported on the successes achieved by IMI in creating the false ITALD target, the flight of which is capable of misinforming S-300 assets. Over the past 12 years, these abilities have been repeatedly increased.
      1. YaRusich
        0
        14 May 2013 11: 50
        That is why probably all lovers of shit democracy were so alarmed and jambed down to Putin (and Natanyahu too).

        And then they will bomb if not false targets, but quite real aircraft. And our specialists, I’m sure, did not sit idly by after such statements by the Israelis.
      2. Containers
        0
        14 May 2013 13: 46
        Well, of course, all this time we sat on the spot and built cottages for the Serdyukans and his women. And no development was conducted. And all these indices are new - it is, of course, simply drawn on paper. No-us-no-no.
        The fact that the Jews were able to unleash the potential of the very first export batteries, to write down the characteristics of radars, etc. - does not mean that they can do the same with new modifications.
      3. 0
        14 May 2013 14: 16
        Quote: AK-47
        Over the past 12 years, these abilities have been repeatedly increased.

        But did the radars and software of the S-300 not change?
        1. AK-47
          0
          14 May 2013 15: 20
          Quote: ATATA
          But did the radars and software of the S-300 not change?

          Radars and in Africa, radars, software too, but the principle of operation is the same.
      4. Irtysh
        +1
        14 May 2013 18: 34
        The developers of the guidance system of the complex all this time also did not sit still. I would like to see the result. But something tells me that Israel will soon have no time for provocations in Syria. In addition, Iran has these complexes. And their number is increasing. The goal of Israel is not Syria, but Iran.

        In this situation, no profit. That will stop buzit. They will begin to search for a peaceful settlement.
  28. +1
    14 May 2013 09: 48
    "A Turkish F-16 fighter pilot was found dead after the plane crashed near Turkey's borders with Syria, the BBC reported, citing the Anatolian news agency."
  29. +1
    14 May 2013 09: 51
    in fact, tanks would be put there and something else good, and if Israel has a question about protecting against Hezbollah missiles, then they can sell something, let them protect their airspace once their brains are not enough to create
    1. Irtysh
      0
      14 May 2013 18: 39
      Does Israel have money to buy expensive weapons? If memory serves me right, then they use what amers give to destabilize the region.

      And from theirs, they only have crafts from local aviation circles and tanks that travel only on hard ground.
      1. +1
        14 May 2013 19: 12
        Quote: Irtysh
        Does Israel have money to buy expensive weapons? If memory serves me right, then they use what amers give to destabilize the region.
        And from theirs, they only have crafts from local aviation circles and tanks that travel only on hard ground.

        This forum is called "Military Review". Maybe you will go to Google and read "Israeli military-industrial complex" as a respect for the participants?
        1. Irtysh
          +1
          14 May 2013 19: 37
          I also see perfectly where the advertising materials are, I understand where the funding comes from, and I feel an irrepressible desire to STEAM.

          Tell us more about the mega-effects of Dead Sea mud treatment.

          Amer is already cutting funding for Israel. And what will remain of your military-industrial complex after the termination of injections?
          1. 0
            14 May 2013 20: 11
            Nothing left. The smart ones ran away from there long ago, stuffing pockets with shekels.
          2. 0
            14 May 2013 20: 12
            Quote: Irtysh
            I also see perfectly where the advertising materials are, I understand where the funding comes from, and I feel an irrepressible desire to STEAM.
            trolling.
            Tell us more about the mega-effects of Dead Sea mud treatment.
            Did I Invite You to Israel?

            Amer is already cutting funding for Israel. And what will remain of your military-industrial complex after the termination of injections?
            strange and for the next 10 years, military assistance will be increased.
        2. 0
          14 May 2013 20: 07
          "Israeli military-industrial complex" Strength. And I was there and sawed money.
  30. +1
    14 May 2013 09: 53
    Quote: Master
    in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.

    We’ll survive nothing, and if they also bring down a couple of Jewish air bandits, then the day went well.
    1. Maitre
      -12
      14 May 2013 10: 23
      And if you don’t get knocked down? But most likely they will not bring down, than will you feed the workers of the Almaz plant? After all, no one will buy C-300 ...
      1. +8
        14 May 2013 10: 40
        Quote: Master
        And if you don’t get knocked down? But most likely they will not bring down, than will you feed the workers of the Almaz plant? After all, no one will buy C-300 ...

        And if you get knocked down? wink After all, they can bring down!
        Then Russia will have a real chance to end the so-called raw material dependence. And Diamond workers will feed half of Russia.
        And judging by the daily visits to Moscow of influential people, there is a chance to bring down. lol
      2. +8
        14 May 2013 10: 45
        Well, do not get knocked down, okay, I will deduct starving workers from my own salary crying I am glad that you believe in the high professionalism of Israeli aces who can perfectly bomb residential areas and heroically fight or terrorize civilians. But this is my choice to fight on the crappy old S-300 against the advanced 40-year-old Israeli phantoms.
        1. Maitre
          -2
          14 May 2013 18: 28
          Your choice ? If only you could be placed on a S-300 battery in Syria, you’re a kind of hero ...
      3. YaRusich
        +3
        14 May 2013 11: 54
        so after all they buy it not for beautiful eyes and letters of characteristics. Carry out tests and comparisons with analogues. So don’t worry get knocked down. And you continue to install beds on planes for half a million))

        PS. Well, if you will fly from the territory of the United States, then yes, they may not bring down)) soldier
      4. Vtel
        0
        14 May 2013 13: 45
        The master is surrendered in his pants, and in his head ... Why then are you cunning from all over the world lining up to the GDP if the S-300 is weak for you. Oh you want to confuse yourself - not weakly, but zero sense. Cooking of all countries ...!
      5. +2
        14 May 2013 18: 16
        Quote: Master
        And if you don’t get knocked down? But most likely they will not bring down, than will you feed the workers of the Almaz plant? After all, no one will buy C-300 ...

        My friend, an air defense reserve officer, believes that the chances that we will have losses if the areas covered by C-300 are attacked are very high. The amount of losses will be determined by how the air defense breakthrough will be prepared. Well, 669 must be kept fully prepared. In general, a serious fight without loss does not happen.
      6. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 42
        Are you buying our complexes? But each plane crashed will lead to the fact that amers completely stop subsidizing you. How then will you deal with your neighbors? Or, again, step on the path of terror?
        1. +1
          14 May 2013 19: 10
          Quote: Irtysh
          Are you buying our complexes? But each plane crashed will lead to the fact that amers completely stop subsidizing you. How then will you deal with your neighbors? Or, again, step on the path of terror?

          Not. But ours studied in Greece and in Ukraine. They know something. And as for our relationship with the United States, let’s wait and see. What to guess then?
  31. pavlo007
    0
    14 May 2013 09: 54
    Something seems to me that nothing good will come of it.
    100% of our calculations will have to be serviced, then another point - any system should be used comprehensively, but here the Syrians will fail, I’m afraid that these S-300s on the ground will capture the militants or universal special forces, or neutralize them in some other way.
  32. 0
    14 May 2013 09: 57
    Our pride is very amused by the hype around the S-300, but if there are no losses from the enemy’s aviation, Russia will not know where and for what pennies to drain this obsolete weapon. (I doubt that the deliveries will be from the manufacturer). Remember the US Patriots! As they managed it, so now few people need it.
    1. Maitre
      -13
      14 May 2013 10: 34
      You say the truth, I hope the Kremlin understands this
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        15 May 2013 17: 57
        That's why they sold it!
    2. djon3volta
      +1
      14 May 2013 12: 17
      Quote: Marconi41
      but if there is no loss from the enemy’s aviation

      and if the losses will be on the part of the enemy all the same? then what kind of comment will you write? SLAVA S-300 or will you be silent?
      1. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 47
        The suitcase will begin to pack, which is an urgent return to Russia. In the coffin, he saw this hot spot, the radioactive desert around Dimon and the evil Arab brothers.
      2. 0
        15 May 2013 00: 21
        It is "IF" all the time. I'm not at all worried about Israel. I am a Russian person and I wish Russia good luck. But I also understand that without good early warning radars, the S-300 will do nothing. Or will it work constantly at a high? Then this calculation is just a target! Can you imagine the attacks "if" the complexes are destroyed ?!
  33. Nesvet Nezar
    +5
    14 May 2013 10: 02
    Quote: nycsson
    It should be recalled that in the 80s, Saudi Arabia and the United States collapsed oil prices


    You think too well of the capabilities and capabilities of the SA and the US in the late 80s. It was not US strength that collapsed prices, but weakness. You probably do not know that in the United States in the late 80s there was a crisis of overproduction of consumer goods. And we really wanted to live beautifully and, under the leadership of Gorbachev, rushed to "liberate" ourselves from communism, forgetting about statehood and the economy ... And the collapse of prices influenced the collapse of the USSR less than the direct destructive command of Gorbachev.
  34. survivor
    +10
    14 May 2013 10: 29
    what to say then? Whether C 300 will help the Assad government or not, no one knows, but the very fact that Russia fulfills the contract will have a positive effect on the country's image. again, do not forget, for so many years, due to the coming to power of political prostitution (gorby and Boryasik), Russia gave in to any demands of its potential opponents. yes, the risk of losing missiles is very high. let's just say that Russia and the reserve itself does not pull a pocket, but the loss of even such a not strong ally will bring NATO countries closer to their cherished dream, come close from all sides to the borders of Russia and if it is not possible to economically destroy it, then immediately invade from all sides its territory. The West has not come up with anything new. the same plan "barbarossa" but adjusted for the vast territory of our immense. so the C 300 in Syria is not so much the protection of the Syrian people (although this is also), but also an indicator of our country's ability to defend its interests anywhere in the world, as well as a very subtle hint of very fat circumstances - do not meddle with us, otherwise we not only have C 300s and we will not hit you with a club, but with missiles !!! if we correlate this step of the Russian leadership with other, no less important, steps (change of the minister of peacetime to the minister of wartime, urgent rearmament and recruitment of the army and navy, the cleaning of all those from whom it is possible to concoct a fifth column in the event of a conflict, recreation of the sawn time
    weapons) it becomes clear that the war is just around the corner! and our politicians have moved from flirting with the West in to an understanding of this ...
    1. Maitre
      -11
      14 May 2013 11: 01
      Having survived, let's face it ... Even in Soviet times, the Soviets were hopelessly technologically behind the West, and in military matters too. And now, after Jewish brains that had leaked to the West (and Russians too), Russia technologically lagged behind HOPELESS ... Yes, and how could it be otherwise when a novice lieutenant earns $ 1000 a month, and a physicist or doctor 200 $. Therefore, the penultimate Nobel laureate in physics (a purely Russian person) did not agree to return to Russia for any money, because he had no one to work with there. So guys, think at your leisure what is the greatness of the country
      1. +6
        14 May 2013 11: 52
        [quote = Master] And now, after the Jewish brains that have leaked to the West (and Russians too) [/ quote]
        It seems to me that here it is necessary to change brains in places.
        [quote = Master] Even in Soviet times, the Soviets were hopelessly technologically behind the West, and in military matters too. [/ quote]
        Oh, is it? Where were the states (there is nothing to say about others) when Lavochkin experienced the "Tempest"? [Quote = Master] Russia technologically lagged behind HOPELESS ... [/ quote]
        KB Novator doesn't know. Not hopeless. Far from it.
        [quote = Master] and a physicist or doctor $ 200.
        it depends on what

        [quote = Mater] So guys, think at your leisure what is the greatness of the country [/ quote]
        Well, of course, to sing to the tune of someone else, to dress newborns in gas masks and shoot civilians from heavy equipment.
        1. Maitre
          -4
          14 May 2013 12: 56
          So after all, Lavochkin is a Jewish tribe. People like him have not been found in Russia for a long time ...
          1. +3
            14 May 2013 13: 17
            Quote: Master
            So after all, Lavochkin is a Jewish tribe. People like him have not been found in Russia for a long time ...

            Thank God people like you have not been found here for a long time.
          2. Dima67
            +1
            14 May 2013 16: 30
            Quote: Master
            So after all, Lavochkin is a Jewish tribe. People like him have not been found in Russia for a long time ...

            Excuse me, master. But this is bullshit.
      2. +1
        14 May 2013 12: 56
        Quote: Master
        Back in Soviet times, the Soviets were hopelessly technologically behind the West, and in military matters too. And now, after Jewish brains that had leaked to the West (and Russians too), Russia technologically fell behind HOPELESS ..


        RUSSIA IN WESTERN LANGUAGES IS NOT ABLE TO READ!
      3. +2
        14 May 2013 15: 23
        Quote: Master
        Surviving, let's face it ...

        Let's face it, but the truth is. Even in Soviet times, the councils were hopelessly lagging behind the west in the ... production of consumer goods - clothes, clothes, phones, cars, household computers. In the field of high technology, Russia is not far behind, and in some areas (nuclear power, rocket technology) it is ahead of the west. But you write the word west with a capital letter, this is your golden calf
        1. RSNV.
          -2
          14 May 2013 18: 43
          In the field of high technologies, the USSR had an approximate parity with the West, somewhere they lagged behind, but tried to catch up, somewhere they were ahead. In modern Russia, all "high technologies" are concentrated in Skolkovo Vekselberg and Rosnano Chubais. In order to stay ahead of the West (including Israel) in high technology, you need to invest in your science, education and people, and not engage in sawing the dough and empty pseudo-patriotic chatter.
      4. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 51
        The greatness of Russia is that the Jews are already starting to return. The process has begun.

        Is it worth it to take them back?
        1. SASCHAmIXEEW
          0
          15 May 2013 18: 19
          Once betrayed, betrayed yet, do not accept!
      5. skeptic-
        0
        14 May 2013 23: 56
        Quote: Master
        So guys, think at your leisure what is the greatness of the country


        After the Civil, the situation with the cadres was worse.

        By the way, about the S-300. The best option is not to get into Syria. And the pilots will be safe and Syria calmer. In the end, for us, it is better to check the systems in a real, combat situation, outside of Russia. In the case of identified weaknesses, there will be time to draw conclusions and refine than to regret missed opportunities.

        As we say: "There is a silver lining."
      6. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +1
        15 May 2013 18: 16
        I still think, why is it all buried in RUSSIA? Dawn! And when they climb, do they get hopelessly backward equipment for eating? Explain the Jewish Mater !!! That's when you explain to me why Russians have lived in RUSSIA for thousands of years and do not run through Egypt and deserts like Jews, then you will be a meter, but for now a centimeter!
  35. 0
    14 May 2013 10: 44
    And somewhere forum users with a star of David on a white banner, eh? Looks like a brain gurgles in the rectum or what.
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 10: 53
      And you scroll up all the comrades there.
    2. Maitre
      -2
      14 May 2013 11: 02
      Colonel, you from the hangover of our flags on the forum do not see or what?
      1. +5
        14 May 2013 11: 09
        Yes, while flipping through, something did not notice. Excuse me, if it hurts you. I repent, from now on I will be more attentive, otherwise it will reach the international scandal. Are you used to talking about yourself in the plural? And then I only saw Mr. Maeter's flag. Father, see. Respect!
      2. +2
        14 May 2013 14: 01
        Quote: Master
        Colonel, you from the hangover of our flags on the forum do not see or what?

        Yes, with a hangover it’s even better to look at your flag. No wonder vomiting.
  36. +4
    14 May 2013 11: 02
    "In the past few days, Russia has also become involved in diplomatic events around the civil war in Syria."
    Sooner or later, Russia will still be drawn into some sort of conflict, so it's time to take some steps so that it is not too late.
    But look at the birds flying to Moscow, one by one and you don’t need to invite, I suppose they are trading like in the eastern bazaar, if only they would give Syria to them.
  37. bright
    +2
    14 May 2013 11: 03
    Quote: Marconi41
    Our pride is very amused by the hype around the S-300, but if there are no losses from the enemy’s aviation, Russia will not know where and for what pennies to drain this obsolete weapon. (I doubt that the deliveries will be from the manufacturer). Remember the US Patriots! As they managed it, so now few people need it.


    Even as in demand. But again, it is not for nothing that they are afraid of the C300. So knocked down. Syria Buk still needed. C300 + Buk + Carapace = Separated air defense. Only now the urgent question is, who will protect all this good and how?
    1. Maitre
      -7
      14 May 2013 11: 10
      Like who ? GRU Special Forces !!! But how then to explain to mothers in the name of what their sons died?
      1. Vanek
        +8
        14 May 2013 11: 16
        Quote: Master
        in the name of which they died


        In the name of what those died, for which your contraceptives the other day, from around the corner crashed?
        1. +2
          14 May 2013 13: 02
          Quote: Vanek
          In the name of what those died, for which your contraceptives the other day, from around the corner crashed?


          What are you attached to the manner of warfare? The main thing is always in any war, it is a victory. The winners are not judged. But losers are still like.
          I also don’t like the behavior of Israel, but at the same time, these guys have something to learn! Guys can stand up for themselves and their rights in such a way that their mother does not cry! And they wanted to poop the whole world with a large bell tower. Who can resist them in the region? No one! All countries will be bombarded with missiles and then crushed by the Merkavas! And here we are sitting in the largest country in the world and reasoning how it would be nice to put 72 pieces of 300 in Syria. Everyone is trying to get out of the water somehow dry. We reckon with everyone. We forgive the greyhound of the Turks who land our planes and put the Patriots on their borders. In general, one should not condemn Israel, but begin to behave just as harshly!
          1. -2
            14 May 2013 13: 07
            Anyway, for some reason we always forget that in Israel there are a lot of our citizens. That this country is, by and large, if we drop politics, it should be much closer than Syria.
            1. Irtysh
              +1
              14 May 2013 18: 59
              Why would these guys from Israel be closer to me than the Syrians? Because we fed and learned them, and they galloped to where it is warmer and now bark in our direction?
            2. 0
              14 May 2013 20: 16
              Quote: Manager
              Anyway, for some reason we always forget that in Israel there are a lot of our citizens. That this country is, by and large, if we drop politics, it should be much closer than Syria.

              I don’t know that one, I don’t know. Israel began to create Anglo-Saxons in the early 20th century, collecting the worthy throughout Europe and brought them to Palestine. The unworthy were given to Hitler to eat.
              1. survivor
                +1
                14 May 2013 23: 14
                with what fright? Israel was created and with the help of the USSR. A lot was invested in this state, but now we get gratitude
            3. SASCHAmIXEEW
              +1
              15 May 2013 18: 43
              Whoever betrayed and escaped cannot be a friend! And with Syria, another criterion, justice !! Arab spring is not an indicator? What was and what has become? How many dead and still will be, all in order to make the old morale richer by several billion greens, it’s enough to feed Mrs. Ozionist elite, they are entertainers, they must answer for all wars !!!
          2. SASCHAmIXEEW
            0
            15 May 2013 18: 32
            The Turks did not land our plane, and the Patriots were rightfully placed on their land! And our right to sell Syria, which is not prohibited! And who doesn’t like it, we are not to blame, collective farm, the matter is voluntary! And how and where the Syrians will shoot, this is their business and right, and whoever didn’t hide, he died!
      2. +1
        14 May 2013 14: 06
        And in the GRU special forces no one is pulling anyone on the lasso, the guys are aware of where they are going to serve.
      3. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 18: 55
        And who, I wonder, will be crap our special forces, Arab militants or Israelis?
      4. +1
        15 May 2013 19: 57
        And what will you explain to the mothers of your specialists?
  38. +5
    14 May 2013 11: 21
    Quote: Master
    Like who ? GRU Special Forces !!! But how then to explain to mothers in the name of what their sons died?

    I’m just like back in the 90s, a liberalistic cry for mothers and their lost children crying A man should be ready to fight for his country and defend its interests, and make sure that as many of the enemies of Russia as possible die for their homeland. In this particular case, I wish the pilots a hello to the Jewish people.
    1. Containers
      +3
      14 May 2013 13: 54
      Interestingly - Syrian mothers were relieved by the explanation that several hundred dead sons / fathers / daughters were called "acceptable losses"? By pedaling the theme of the Holocaust, the Jews themselves have become fascist monsters.
      1. Irtysh
        0
        14 May 2013 19: 01
        In my opinion, you are too politically correct. Excuse me.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +1
        15 May 2013 19: 00
        Hitler was fed by Jewish bankers from America, and American (Jewish) firms worked throughout Germany during the war, supplying the army with gasoline and not one bomb fell on them, but Dresden was demolished !! I believe that these bugs, I can’t pick another word, I need to crush everywhere and always !!
  39. bright
    +3
    14 May 2013 11: 39
    Quote: Master
    Like who ? GRU Special Forces !!! But how then to explain to mothers in the name of what their sons died?


    If the GRU does not die. And if they die, then Netanyahu will tell in the name of whom the shaldag, the pilots and your special forces were killed.
    1. Irtysh
      0
      14 May 2013 19: 04
      And did Netanyahu serve in the Israeli special forces? I am somewhat confused by his craving for lies and double beds on the plane.

      Or is it there in the order of things? :)
  40. Malleus
    +7
    14 May 2013 11: 48
    Quote: Master
    Guys, I don't want to upset you here, but Russia will make a marketing mistake by selling the S-300 to Syria. For in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.

    This is the style of the guys "from Deribasovskaya" - as if, don't sell this shit to Syria, because then it will be difficult to "vparit suckers". Marketing ... And we do not hesitate to sell, because We don't count as shit! Well, even if this happens - then not Jews - we will refine it.

    Quote: Master
    We do not want this, option, because when the S-300 is destroyed, Russian advisers will die. I'd like to avoid this.

    love Oh ... Already burst into tears of emotion ... But something is weakly believed in the suddenly flared up Euro love.
    1. Maitre
      -4
      14 May 2013 12: 37
      And you do not believe in this love. Nobody loves anyone. I just don’t want to quarrel with Russia. Now, if we quarrel, I will lose Russian patients, and they are high-quality and inexpensive medicine. And who needs to quarrel? For what ? For the sake of the Damascus butcher or for the imperial ambitions of Russia?
      1. +1
        14 May 2013 13: 41
        Only this "butcher" does not refuse the elections, and invites all Syrians to take part in them, and his "opponents" do not want to recognize the Syrian citizens to make decisions about their compatriots' participation in the elections. And they set conditions; do they have the right to do so?
      2. Irtysh
        +1
        14 May 2013 19: 08
        And you, dear, do not "want to" quarrel with Russia, but it is simply not profitable and SCARY. So don't juggle.
    2. +1
      14 May 2013 13: 46
      It's just that kosher kids will be killed by this shit. And it looks like there will be a lot of them if the "pencils" work (it is not for nothing that the Lebanese Cossacks and their overseas godfathers fuss)
  41. 0
    14 May 2013 12: 03
    Russian supplies of the S-300 will not solve the problem of victory in the Syrian confrontation. It's just that this is an important factor in Russia's support for the struggling people of Syria with gangs of newcomer bearded men sent by Western Tolerasts. S-300 shipments are a moral factor that cannot be overestimated.
    This is a symbol of the fact that Russia is with Syria.
  42. YaRusich
    0
    14 May 2013 12: 03
    For how many pieces of silver did you sell the p-s to water all the mud with such ambition, and the Israelis, comrades?
    1. Maitre
      -2
      14 May 2013 12: 47
      How much for how much? Over 30 of course. You wanted to hear such an answer?
      1. +2
        14 May 2013 14: 07
        Quote: Master
        How much for how much? Over 30 of course.

        They know the price ...
      2. YaRusich
        +1
        14 May 2013 14: 20
        Well, at least you don’t deny it here, it is commendable. So everyone knows perfectly well with whom you are friends. am
  43. YaRusich
    0
    14 May 2013 12: 10
    Guys, I don't want to upset you here, but Russia will make a marketing mistake by selling the S-300 to Syria. For in case a, the S-300 attacks will be destroyed, without losses from the attackers. After that, it will be very difficult to position the S-300 as "unique, unparalleled" and sales of the system will sharply decline. Therefore, Russia should not supply S-300 to Syria.

    I don’t want to upset you, but you didn’t think that according to the documents there could be s-300, but in fact it’s a different number?)) soldier And nobody canceled the possibilities of modernization. And well, if you’re not afraid of air defense (beech and shell) of Syria from Lebanon, you’ve thrashed it?
  44. -3
    14 May 2013 12: 18
    [quote = Master] Surviving, let's face it ... Even in Soviet times, the Soviets were hopelessly technologically behind the West, and in military matters too. And now, after Jewish brains flowed to the West (and Russians too), Russia has technologically lagged behind HOPELESS ... \
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    3. +4
      14 May 2013 12: 47
      When Jews and Americans armed and trained the Georgian army, they probably also thought that we were behind. Well, let’s see who and how far behind. A good addition to the C-300 would be the Iskander missile system.
  45. USNik
    +1
    14 May 2013 12: 37
    third countries, primarily Israel, express concern

    If the delivery takes place (I really want to believe), then it will be possible to travel to Israel for cheap building materials. good
    1. Irtysh
      +1
      14 May 2013 19: 14
      Why would you need radioactive sand? After all, they themselves declare that in the case of a large shecher they will spoil everything around.

      Israel is such an Israel. Let them go to their bunkers among the cheap building materials.
  46. bright
    +3
    14 May 2013 13: 02
    Quote: Master
    And you do not believe in this love. Nobody loves anyone. I just don’t want to quarrel with Russia. Now, if we quarrel, I will lose Russian patients, and they are high-quality and inexpensive medicine. And who needs to quarrel? For what ? For the sake of the Damascus butcher or for the imperial ambitions of Russia?


    It’s another question, who is the butcher. And who has imperial ambitions.
  47. Adel
    +3
    14 May 2013 13: 15
    the fact that Israel does not benefit from the supply of s-300 systems is understandable because syria is the only obstacle to the plans to expand its state is a fascist country, so far the border between Israel and the euphrates is written on the parliament (parliament)
    with the help of ss and mercenaries, systematically destroying the economy of infrastructure, the history of the Syrian way of life, and here the S-300 missiles, of course, then no one will climb and not some unmanned zones
    I wonder what kind of arguments the Israeli prime minister has when he states before his arrival in Russia that he is sure that there will be no supply of s-300 to Syria
    Israel supplies militants and mercenaries with weapons; intelligence treats data and its military experts are in Smoim
    according to some reports, they are surrounded together with mercenaries in the city of Alcaceir
    but let’s see how Putin’s negotiations and netenyugu end, because this is just an exam in Russia that will put an end to many questions
  48. DuraLexSedLex.
    -5
    14 May 2013 13: 39
    Something seems to me that the Jews will outbid these s-300s and Putin will merge the Assad team, I don’t want to believe it, but it’s impossible to deny it either, we leaked everyone: Yugoslavia was torn to pieces, Libya was given away, Syria was added with salt, then Iran was added, then they will merge us ... they will merge us, and Pu and Co. will simply be dumped, they will not live here and they will be like Gorbach, because of the hillock they will broadcast us about shit democracy.
    1. +2
      14 May 2013 13: 53
      well, something you, my friend, have already drawn up a completely pessimistic script. Vests, of course, I will not tear. The time is difficult now, there are a lot of liberals, compradors and simply outright traitors in power. BUT, something tells me that common sense and honor will triumph and we will not surrender Syria because there are still patriots and real people at the helm of the country. I want to believe in it ...
    2. 0
      14 May 2013 13: 53
      Do you understand what you said?
  49. 0
    14 May 2013 13: 48
    If my memory serves me right, Medvedev in 2010 refused to supply C-300 to Iran. (Also not far from Gorbi and Boryasik).
    Quote: survivor
    the rise to power of political prostitution (humpback and Boryasik
    1. survivor
      +1
      14 May 2013 23: 21
      it's just that humpback and boryasik stood at the origins of that bl ... va, echoes of which we slurp to this day. Time of Troubles always gave rise to choices like the former prezik.
  50. Vtel
    +1
    14 May 2013 13: 54
    In this regard, third countries, primarily Israel, express concern and want to prevent deliveries.

    How nice to hear these lingering sounds of our enemies. And the fact that the S-300 is an obsolete century, such as seeds for them. But no, the S-300 would not be respected - they would not tremble!

    So we still have club for those who creep! And the S-500 will introduce them into a terrible trance of cordon. Let them get used to it, stop putting everyone on their knees.
  51. +1
    14 May 2013 14: 00
    Let us remember the “invisible” F-117 when it was shot down by a C-125 in Yugoslavia. So, good luck to the Jewish flyers. And the advice to the trolls is that it is better to quietly steal the aircraft for metal, so as not to regret the losses later. To be honest, their aviation itself will soon fall, you don’t have to look far for an example, Turkey is nearby. But deception systems still need to be developed. This is not for you to betray the prophets for pieces of silver.
  52. bars280
    +2
    14 May 2013 14: 27
    Quote: Ascetic
    Quote: Manager
    Due to the flow of immigrants.


    Not only. The increase in fertility is caused primarily by the fact that children born in the mid-80s entered reproductive age. I will not look for birth statistics in the mid and late 80s because I myself remember that it was very high, based on the workload of schools and kindergartens. This generation, being children in the 90s, did not suffer as much as their parents, so it’s natural that compared with the 90s when a woman with a stroller on the street was rare now the situation has improved a lot.

    This is a fact, in our city there is a feeling that all people are only engaged in reproduction, and my wife and I did not disappoint.
  53. 0
    14 May 2013 14: 56
    Russia has long been sold and signed contracts. And completes deliveries on the signed contracts of equipment, which is anti-aircraft systems. It is not prohibited by any international regulations. This is a defensive weapon. It is intended so that in this case Syria, as a state importer, will be able to protect itself from air strikes. That, as we know, is not quite a fantastic scenario.
    That’s what Lavrov said, so why debate, soon we’ll see everything for ourselves, of course I wanted, burning and falling planes of vultures...
  54. cool.ya-nikola
    +2
    14 May 2013 15: 03
    Quote: ATATA
    But actually, what do you want to convince us of?

    And, dear Alexey, he wants to convince us, how “sincerely”, he worries about Russia, about you and me, orphans and wretches, about our specialists (whom they will have to kill!), about our “failure” in the field of sales weapons, for the unfortunate workers from Almaz, who are destined to die of hunger! In other words, there is no greater “patriot” of Russia than Mr. METR, and we all just went out for a walk!... Well, in arms marketing, we must assume that Mr. METR has a wealth of experience from the time of the sale weapons for the Sakakashvili regime!
    Well, regarding Syria, it’s time to realize there is a war going on, still on the far side, but Russia! It’s not for nothing that the simple-minded Syrian “rebels”, on the walls of broken Syrian cities, voice what is on their minds. Ah, the thought is simple and clear as God’s day - “Today is Syria, tomorrow is Russia!”
    I strongly recommend watching the video clip and thinking about whether we want such a “tomorrow” for ourselves!
  55. pantech15
    -2
    14 May 2013 15: 06
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  56. pantech15
    -2
    14 May 2013 15: 07
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  57. pantech15
    0
    14 May 2013 15: 07
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  58. pantech15
    -1
    14 May 2013 15: 08
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  59. pantech15
    -1
    14 May 2013 15: 10
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  60. pantech15
    -1
    14 May 2013 15: 11
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
  61. pantech15
    -1
    14 May 2013 15: 12
    if you look soberly at the situation with Assad, then everything is clear that Assad will be surrendered, the West cannot lower itself in the eyes of its agents, Russia is also fighting for its image of a reliable arms supplier who does not hand over its partners, but at the same time understands that Assad’s days are numbered, that’s why I think that the issue will be resolved so we fulfill our obligations, but the West will begin the active phase of the war immediately after this in order to prevent the introduction of anti-aircraft systems into operation
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +2
      15 May 2013 19: 13
      How is it - 7 identical comments in a row...
  62. 0
    14 May 2013 15: 26
    It is not the weapon itself that is howling, it is people who are fighting who must know how to effectively use this very weapon. I wish the Syrians to use Russian weapons as effectively as possible.
  63. Chavy
    +2
    14 May 2013 15: 50
    A Syrian "oppositionist" rips out a soldier's heart and eats it...

    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/13/303319/syria-rebel-cuts-eats-soldiers-he

    art/

    If Israel supports such people...and the Judenrat knows about it, this is a big failure of the entire Israeli Zionist project.
  64. Lgpack
    +1
    14 May 2013 16: 29
    Interesting statement: “According to the American Secretary of State, Russia should not continue military-technical cooperation with Syria, since this could have negative consequences for the region as a whole.” He said out loud, but in his mind: Russia should not continue military-technical cooperation with Syria, since this could have negative consequences in the future on plans for the destruction of Russia and the occupation of its lands.
    In general, please don’t stop us from destroying you.
  65. 0
    14 May 2013 16: 34
    come on... neighbors can always come to an agreement... but the geopolitical intervention in Syria will not stop... Russia needs to increase its strength...
  66. pavlo007
    +9
    14 May 2013 17: 14
    Fuck it, let them ban me (here among moderators, universal European politically correct feelings curl up into a tube just from one word “Chukhonets”, I’m even afraid to express homophobic feelings), but I can firmly say from my experience working in science and education that “Jewish brains” and “ "smart Jews" is nothing more than the main myth of Zionist propaganda.
    Among them there are exactly the same number of stupid and limited people as among other nations, but what they lack is intrigue and the ability to pass off what they want (their mind and abilities) as reality and the ability to inflate and exaggerate their achievements 100 times.
    German science somehow developed very successfully after they sent the Jews to gas vans.

    PS In any scientific organization or university, 99% of intrigues and deceptions come from JIDOVNI. Their main occupation is not to develop their projects and topics, but to throw mud at others and get more funding. They are not people of action.
    All the successes of Israel are precisely due to the fact that it was not stupid JUDE who came there, trading in imports and repairing shoes, but diluted with Russian blood (which stopped the degeneration of small, big-headed, club-footed, low-faced creatures at that time) and highly qualified personnel trained in RUSSIAN HIGH SCHOOLS.
    The greatness of JIDOVSKOI blood lies only in the fact that when this infection enters any blood it acts like cyanide. If a person is 5% Chechen and 95% Russian, then he will be Russian, but if he is 5% Jewish, then it’s all over. The most terrible weapon of the Jews is genetic dominance, through which all the worst traits inherent in humans are transmitted.
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      1. 0
        14 May 2013 20: 42
        Quote: rsnv
        Dear pavlo007, maybe it’s worth distinguishing between Jews and Jews. There are enough Jews among Russians too.

        This is because you put a different meaning into the word “Jew”. For you this is an insult, for us it’s just a common name for Jews: Jews - who are not Jews, Germans - who are not Germans at all, Ukrainians - not, etc.
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      15 May 2013 19: 18
      Wow Pavlo007 said, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! He revealed the whole essence of the Jewish seed...
  67. serpentine fist
    +5
    14 May 2013 17: 26
    we need an S-400 division to the south of Syria and establish a no-fly zone over Israel. There will be laughter and Hezbollah will arm itself with corn bombers and the border zones of Israel....
  68. 0
    14 May 2013 17: 26
    The most beautiful thing would be for ten or twenty Pepels to be shot down, including the vaunted raptors, unfinished lightnings, UAVs and missiles that will be launched to destroy the complex.
    Then someone’s hole will shrink so that the black hole will become jealous and you will have to act with caution.

    By the way, why can't you turn on the rear?
    1st - Political, the president and some ministers clearly expressed themselves in the spirit of “don’t dare shoot at Damascus.” Let's turn on the rear and what will our word mean? It turns out that we will look like some kind of babbles who can chat, but as it happens, we’ll immediately go into the bushes.
    2nd - Socio-Political, Syria is very widely supported not only by the Russians, but also by the conditional allies of the Russian Federation Iran and China. If society can still somehow let all this down, then the allies will not understand.

    The only thing that worries me is that our S-300s (even the export version) would not accidentally end up with our overseas partners.
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 17: 42
      Greece, a NATO member, purchased them several years ago, so they are there, studied, tested in joint exercises with Israel.
      And if they thought the S-300 was turd, they wouldn’t be hysterical now.
      1. +1
        14 May 2013 18: 24
        Quote: _Sibiryak_
        Greece, a NATO member, purchased them several years ago, so they are there, studied, tested in joint exercises with Israel.
        And if they thought the S-300 was turd, they wouldn’t be hysterical now.
        The Israeli government is doing what it must to reduce the possible losses of our military personnel. Let me remind you as an example that the Israel-Georgia military-technical cooperation was interrupted in April 2008 under strong diplomatic pressure from Russia. Well, the RA was not really afraid of our supplies, which, compared to Ukrainian, Czech and Turkish, were just a trifle, but due to the threat of conflict, Russian diplomats used all their trump cards to reduce Georgia’s military potential. And that's okay.
    2. Maitre
      -5
      14 May 2013 18: 13
      Well, what if Russian air defense screws up again? What will you say then? Will you start singing an old mournful song about stupid Arabs who failed to use the “unique, unparalleled” Russian technology?
      1. Airman
        0
        18 May 2013 09: 39
        Mater: Well, what if Russian air defense screws up again? The Ukrainians taught the Georgians on the BUK-M2, but they were never able to teach them, they had to work on the complex themselves. You can’t train a specialist quickly. When the USSR supplied Egypt with S-125 and Shilki with specialists and in one day 5 Israeli planes were shot down, then a week later The Arab-Israeli war is over. You Jews can only fight with poorly trained troops, but as soon as you get the tinsel, your paws will be in the air.
  69. 0
    14 May 2013 18: 22
    “In this regard, third countries, primarily Israel, are expressing concern and want the deliveries to not take place.” (c) Don't be rude, then you won't worry...
    Master: “Well, what if the Russian air defense screws up once again? What will you say then? Will you start the old mournful song about stupid Arabs who failed to use the “unique, unparalleled” Russian equipment? (c) One chance in a thousand, but it will happen worth it! You now have an interesting life ahead!...
  70. 0
    14 May 2013 18: 29
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: _Sibiryak_
    Greece, a NATO member, purchased them several years ago, so they are there, studied, tested in joint exercises with Israel.
    And if they thought the S-300 was turd, they wouldn’t be hysterical now.
    The Israeli government is doing what it must to reduce the possible losses of our military personnel. Let me remind you as an example that the Israel-Georgia military-technical cooperation was interrupted in April 2008 under strong diplomatic pressure from Russia. Well, the RA was not really afraid of our supplies, which, compared to Ukrainian, Czech and Turkish, were just a trifle, but due to the threat of conflict, Russian diplomats used all their trump cards to reduce Georgia’s military potential. And that's okay.

    Yes, quantitatively your supplies may have been a trifle, but qualitatively... These were high-tech weapons (drones), the analogues of which were (and are still missing) in the Russian army, and which could significantly influence the outcome of the battle.
    I think this remark is quite important.
    Sincerely.
    1. +1
      14 May 2013 18: 41
      Prominent Israeli experts in the field of the latest types of Russian weapons gathered here. There is also such a thing as a military secret. And it didn't go anywhere. Time will tell how events will develop there. Israel provokes a conflict between countries, and thinks to sit it out. But this is the deepest misconception. Please, it's time to collect the stones...
  71. bright
    +1
    14 May 2013 18: 32
    Quote: Master
    Well, what if Russian air defense screws up again? What will you say then? Will you start singing an old mournful song about stupid Arabs who failed to use the “unique, unparalleled” Russian technology?

    And if it doesn’t screw up, will you say that the planes crashed on their own for technical reasons? Or that we accidentally got lost and the evil S300 shot down innocent planes flying along the border?
    1. 0
      14 May 2013 18: 48
      Quote: bright
      And if it doesn’t screw up, will you say that the planes crashed on their own for technical reasons? Or that we accidentally got lost and the evil S300 shot down innocent planes flying along the border?

      Well, some aircraft were allegedly completely written off and taken out of service. Who admits about losses.
  72. +5
    14 May 2013 18: 55

    Appeal to you!
    I understand that:
    [Jews from various countries of the world represent an extraterritorial “single global Jewish nation”;
    [Jews are a “special”, “exceptional”, “chosen by God” people;
    [all peoples among whom Jews live are, in one way or another, anti-Semites;
    [anti-Semitism is an “eternal” phenomenon;
    [assimilation, that is, the merging of Jews with the peoples around them, is “unnatural and sinful”;
    [Jews have “historical rights” to the “lands of their biblical ancestors” (Palestine and the surrounding areas), on which they should concentrate and build a “purely Jewish” “egalitarian state.”

    But this does not mean that everyone should noddingly approve of your attitude towards the unarmed population and the cynical assessment of any risks in acceptable losses on the part of the civilian population. Who gave you the right to decide who lives and who dies?
    PS: this applies not only to Israel ...
    PS: PS: I also have friends in Israel for permanent residence and my opinion is not about the Israelis, but about their, and not only, LEADERS! Those who have reached power among you, your neighbors, who don’t give a shit from a high bell tower about you, and about us, and even more so about some Syrians. Such “PEOPLE” understand only the language of power! They will exchange you for Syrians in the hope of getting their petrodollar (30 pieces of silver is the price of your safety). And your and our technologies are just a means of achieving petrodollars.
    Whose technology is better is a secondary question IMHO, another comes first - how many people need to be killed to stop these cynical performances?
    1. berg
      +1
      14 May 2013 22: 22
      you know, after your list of concepts and even taking into account your acquaintances for permanent residence, it is difficult to accept your opinion as objective hi
      1. +2
        15 May 2013 05: 32
        This is the ideological doctrine of Zionism.
        This is what you are demonstrating in Syria.
        Looks like this is YOUR list of concepts...

        The 30 session of the UN General Assembly (November 1975) qualified Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination.
  73. +2
    14 May 2013 18: 59
    It is likely that the Russian S-300 will become a kind of indicator for Syria, with the help of which it will be possible, with a high probability, to identify supporters of solving the problem through international intervention.
    What a fucking indicator, this gang has been known to everyone for a long time. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya have already become acquainted with them.
  74. -1
    14 May 2013 19: 13
    Eh, guys, Israel has been surrounded for 60 years and nothing, won three wars
    with a population five times smaller
    We need to make the army professional, then we won’t have to piss
    Otherwise, with 5 hours of flight time per year, the pilot can only maintain altitude
    You look now, the soldier is serving at his mother’s side, he goes home to sleep, what will he learn in a year?
  75. +4
    14 May 2013 19: 37
    All America and all Europe
    This is a huge fat ass
    There is no normal sane
    authorities
    There's only one at the helm
    buggers
    They want oil from everywhere
    steal
    And on peaceful people they
    Thick horseradish
    These "powers that be"
    In debt as in silks
    And there's nothing
    Just one lie and advertising.

    P.S. Don't judge harshly for this ineptitude.
    1. RSNV.
      -3
      14 May 2013 20: 03
      Dear friend, don’t judge you, you need to be treated
      1. 0
        14 May 2013 23: 00
        Are you a doctor?
        1. RSNV.
          -1
          17 May 2013 00: 15
          Yes, you guessed it, an expert on America and Europe
    2. OTAKE
      -1
      18 May 2013 10: 07
      Quote: Ilya Mikhalych
      All America and all Europe
      This is a huge fat ass


      Everything is stable with us


      There is no normal sane
      authorities
      There's only one at the helm
      buggers

      of course only homosexuals, nowhere to go:
      Pedophile senator Boris Shpigel raped boys during Soviet rule


      By the way, in the country of victorious capitalism this problem is solved in a completely different way. On May 25 of this year, concierge Donald Beaty, who raped and strangled a 1984-year-old girl in 13, was executed by lethal injection in the state of Arizona (USA). In total, 2011 people have been executed in the United States since the beginning of 19.


      And on peaceful people they
      Thick horseradish
      These "powers that be"
      In debt as in silks
      And there's nothing
      Just one lie and advertising.

      There’s no doubt about it, it’s just show-off, here in Mother Russia, the authorities certainly can’t put their hands on the people.


      by the way, homeless in the USA
  76. 0
    14 May 2013 19: 40
    Did anyone besides me today see the passage of two pairs of strategists (like a Tu-95, judging by the roar, it was very high)? There is nothing in the news, we were walking from the Krasnodar region towards the mine waters.
  77. -2
    14 May 2013 19: 54
    Delivering such complexes to such an unstable region, Try them out in real conditions. That’s all I don’t believe. Another political intrigue. They will be disabled there by terrorists, and then they will be bombed by the Jews and they will tell everyone what kind of Russian complexes they are. We swam, we know this racket as peeled off. Even without the S-300, they will now gather such an armada of Allah’s warriors, and Israel will be the first to fall. Yes, they themselves understand this well, that’s why they are raging on the site.
  78. 0
    14 May 2013 20: 31
    Quote: Yazov
    Yes, and we will show our indecision and weakness. Deliveries must take place. And even better, not the S-300, but the S-400. Which do not seem to differ in appearance.
    S-400s are not supplied for export. But S-300s are simply obliged to be supplied. I hope Putin will not follow the lead of the West.
  79. 0
    14 May 2013 20: 48
    What will the S-300 change? The blockade of Syria will continue, there will be no order. The UN is silent, there are no peacekeepers... There will always be wild people, partisans who will fight for money... The USA could have invaded IRAQ, and Russia would have to listen to everyone to protect and restore order...
    1. 0
      17 May 2013 12: 54
      So go and restore order in Syria. Who is stopping you? Only you personally if you have a great desire to fight for Assad. They stopped receiving coffins containing boys a long time ago.
      Or do you think that others should fight for you.
  80. Maitre
    +1
    14 May 2013 21: 12
    And yet, in nothing is the true greatness of the Russian people manifested so clearly as in its attitude towards the Jews.

    It is true that Maria Aleksandrovna Ulyanova’s maiden name was Blank, and Trotsky’s name was Bronstein, that Dzerzhinsky was half Jewish, and Sverdlov was one hundred percent Jewish, that the term “concentration camp” was not invented by the Germans, but long before them by a Soviet man named Berman , who organized the first camp of a new type in history, that one of the bloodiest figures in the bloody history of Soviet Russia was the Jew Yagoda. This list can be continued without telling a single lie - please continue, don’t be shy. Pull yourself up and prove to all progressive humanity that it is the Jews who are to blame for all the troubles of your long-suffering country.

    But how did they manage to do this? There are slightly more of them all over the world than there are Muscovites, but in Russia there are less than half a percent of the population left. There are hundreds of millions of you, and besides, you, unlike the Jews, are a great people. Why are you exposing yourself to them so meekly? Why have you been standing for centuries in front of a pathetic bunch of despicable bloodsuckers - standing with your pants down, bending over, and looking upside down between your own trembling knees, as interplanetary Zionism approaches you from behind with a carnivorous grin on its well-fed, mocking face and a thick sawed-off shotgun at the ready. Oh, what’s going to happen right now... Vrahuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutsksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. Oh! Ahhh...

    Where are you, you brave fellow? Where there is girlish beauty...

    Yes, this is not for you to look for al-Qaeda cells in the States. They are disguised as peaceful Arabs. Your enemies can be identified by any pensioner on duty at the entrance: by their nose, by their last name, by their habitual inability to pronounce “kukuguza” correctly. What is it all about, when in every document they have in black and white: Jew, Jew, Jew!.. Your enemy is cunning, you can’t say anything. Skillfully camouflaged. You can't figure it out without half a liter.

    When some local al-Qaeda cell is arrested in the United States - five or six people, illiterate, angry, stupid, converted to Islam in prison, unable and not even trying to find work, the FBI joyfully and proudly announces another victory, and the whole country feels that life has become a little safer. Many hundreds of thousands of Jews left your country - voluntarily, overcoming the inexplicable resistance of the authorities. This, naturally, could not help but weaken the perfectly hidden Zionist underground, which had been secretly conducting subversive activities in Russia since the 60th century until - what do you call it? - Nativity of Christ. Consequently, your life, starting from the late XNUMXs of the last century, should have become better and better. Why didn't this happen?
  81. Maitre
    +3
    14 May 2013 21: 14
    Well, how why? The Jews are to blame.

    Here I caused general indignation by announcing that I, it turns out, do not like Russia. No, I don't. Moreover, I don’t think I have to. Moreover, I don’t think at all that anyone is obligated to love anyone. I have the right not to like Russia, you have the right not to like China, every goy has the right not to like Jews. Has, has. There's nothing wrong with that. As I have said elsewhere, I love my wife, but not so much other wives. However, I don’t think that other wives are dirty creatures who definitely need to be either hanged or at least imprisoned. Despite my complete lack of love for them, I admit that most of them are quite worthy of the love and respect of other people and I do not demand that everyone in the world love my wife, neither exclusively nor even part-time.

    What is the leitmotif of modern spiritual life in Russia? Your hatred of America and the Jews. I recommend this to all of you: take a breath and ask who are you harming with this hatred?

    America? The Americans don’t even suspect about your ardent passion, and if you tell them, they will immediately forget about it: they have more important concerns than Russian emotions.

    Jews? Most Jews live beyond your reach. Those few who still live in Russia can always leave it. (As a former Jew of the Soviet Union, I can authoritatively assure you that for a Jew not to want to leave Russia, he needs to love it very much - much more than the leavened patriots who scold the Jews at the beer stall love it.)

    The only people who have nowhere to escape from their own hatred of others is you yourself. It is you who deprive yourself of hope of solving your problems by blaming others for them. It is you who cripple your own souls, poisoning them with hatred. It is you who excluded yourself from humanity, repeating from generation to generation that you live surrounded by enemies.

    Compare huge Russia with tiny Israel, which really lives surrounded by enemies. Ask yourself how the Israelis manage to live so much better than you - without a single day of peace since 1948, without any natural resources. At school I was taught that Moscow is a port of seven seas; Why can I buy fish caught in Lake Kinneret at a local supermarket near New York, but cannot buy fish caught in the seven seas of Moscow? What, the Jews took all your fish to Israel? Or maybe you yourself have been doing something wrong throughout your entire history?

    From the bottom of my heart I wish you and your country all the best. Just please start washing your dirty linen in public, otherwise it’s already propped up to the ceiling.
  82. 0
    14 May 2013 21: 33
    who is helped by Israel and others like them +18!!
    [media=http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0c9_1368347673]
  83. +3
    14 May 2013 21: 54
    METR This is a forum for the site "Military Review"! Don't like people's brains with your bullshit! You will not re-educate anti-Semites, but among interesting interlocutors, your sheets, especially full of blunders like Dzerzhinsky, whose parents were hereditary nobles, or the counter-camps that were invented by the British during the British/Boer War, only cause laughter. If you have something to write about, no, don’t disgrace Israel with nonsense.
    1. candy bar140105
      0
      15 May 2013 00: 28
      I also wanted to write about the Britons and the camps, you are ahead of me)))) to be honest, our Master wrote complete nonsense...............
      1. SASCHAmIXEEW
        0
        15 May 2013 19: 47
        He is not a Master, he is a centimeter! And what he wrote about the Jews is all true, arrogant, unscrupulous, unprincipled, corrupt, money above all else! Due to these properties, he fools people and rises above them! In general, if we didn’t meddle in other people’s affairs, we wouldn’t even know them!
    2. +1
      15 May 2013 15: 28
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      METR is a forum for the Military Review website! Don't like people's brains with your bullshit! You will not re-educate anti-Semites, but among interesting interlocutors, your sheets, especially full of blunders like Dzerzhinsky, whose parents were hereditary nobles, or the counter-camps that were invented by the British during the British/Boer War, only cause laughter. If you have something to write about, no, don’t disgrace Israel with nonsense.

      Maybe it’s enough to tell someone what they can write and what they can’t? Lately you've been allowing yourself to do this too often. The site has descended into a xenophobic cesspool; there have been no normal discussions of topics related to military reviews for a long time. 99% are completely off-topic, and recently a schoolgirl has come running in whose Iron Dome is designed to shoot down Iskanders. Since the site has not been interested in discussing news for a long time, if you don’t like Metra’s comment, pass by and don’t teach what to write and what not to write, especially under the pretext of “the shame of Israel.” Read the comments, most of those present will go out to the square to celebrate if Israel suddenly disappears
  84. 0
    14 May 2013 21: 59
    We need to support our allies, the main thing is that if ours deliver the S-300, the serials won’t let it go cold turkey and use it competently. We need to help and lay a big burden on the bourgeoisie from the bell tower
  85. 0
    14 May 2013 22: 04
    “Russian emotions” and Americans generally don’t care about history. For something that has been created for centuries, millennia. Do you know why? Because America itself is 200 years old and was a colony. They destroyed the native inhabitants of America, thereby denoting further foreign “policy”. The most important mistake is that history is forgotten...Whoever has more history should enjoy greater authority, and not whoever has more dollars.
  86. +1
    14 May 2013 22: 19
    Quote: Master
    the term “concentration camp” was not coined by the Germans, but long before them by a Soviet man named Berman, who organized the first new type of camp in history,

    Dear Master, the Anglo-Saxons invented and used concentration camps in their colonies long before the advent of Soviet power in Russia.
  87. 0
    14 May 2013 22: 22
    Quote: Master
    Most Jews live beyond your reach.

    Is it on the moon? Or do Jews live on Mars? The whole Earth is within our reach.
    1. berg
      +1
      14 May 2013 22: 34
      and Poplars will bloom across the earth.... am
  88. 0
    14 May 2013 22: 27
    The Israeli leader agreed on what with V.V. Putin? Any opinions?
    1. berg
      -3
      14 May 2013 22: 44
      Russia refuses to supply the S-300 to Syria, and as compensation, Israel purchases a Lada Kalina (in the popular color - yellow) for an equivalent amount. drinks
    2. +2
      14 May 2013 22: 58
      Quote: regdan
      The Israeli leader agreed on what with V.V. Putin? Any opinions?

      It is unknown what they agreed to, especially if the S-300 is already in Syria, but here
      It became known that at today's meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Sochi, the head of IDF military intelligence, General Aviv Kochavi, was also present. He presented Putin with the latest intelligence data on what is happening in Syria
      , that is, the conversation was completely frank because it is clear that all information from Kochavi will be double-checked three times
      1. berg
        +1
        14 May 2013 23: 29
        What will Kochavi tell the Russians about the situation in Syria that they don’t know? What was really bombed? where did it come from and where did it go!? Moscow is not interested in this! There is a confrontation in Syria, and everyone benefits there for themselves! Everyone understands that it’s difficult with Assad, but without him it will be hell!
      2. 0
        15 May 2013 02: 21
        Professional intelligence officers will always find a common language.
      3. Maitre
        -1
        15 May 2013 05: 07
        There was a rumor in Maariv that all these games about the S300 are a bluff, but in fact the Russians want preferences for Gazprom in the tender for our gas.
        1. +1
          15 May 2013 09: 58
          Now that seems to be true.
          Lately, Russia has only 2 allies - Gazprom and Rosneft
  89. Dimkapvo
    +3
    14 May 2013 22: 58
    I try not to interfere in pointless squabbles, it’s a thankless task - you’ll ruin your nerves and won’t prove anything to anyone. I treat Jews, as well as other nations, with respect, and our grandfathers fought together and died in camps and rebuilt the country after the war. You and we have enough big-headed scientists, there is only one school - the Soviet one, there is no point in breaking spears about this. It so happened that now our truths are different, you have yours, we have ours. You have your friends, we have ours. Both we and you defend with foam at the mouth the interests of our native states, our sacred right. Time will tell who was more right. But among every nation there are scum, a disgrace to the peoples who gave birth to them. The creature under the nickname Mater is scum, there is no other name. Small, nasty scum. Do you even know who the song you wrote about is about? What kind of people was it dedicated to? You are not worth the dust from under their feet! !
  90. gura
    0
    14 May 2013 23: 50
    From Minsk. It’s amazing why so many racists, stupid commies and simply stupid people have gathered on the Military Review website. How much dirt has been poured on the state of Israel, which has been “holding by the balls” 60 years of rabid Arab terrorists. If you had followed their example, there would have been no Caucasian occupation of your country, as yet. Soon it will be completely divided into criminal zones with their own bosses. And you’re still fanning the goiter here - we’ll defeat everyone! Yes, you yourself have long been defeated by drunkenness, drug addiction, corruption, banditry, etc. by the list! In Belarus we are pursuing a policy of rapprochement with Israel - Old Man is not stupid! And there is almost no everyday anti-Semitism. Surprisingly, but so. And your worst enemy is yourself. It was not for nothing that the drunkard Yeltsin was chosen as the first president. As they say, so is the arrival! And about the roots of the “mysterious Russian soul,” read A. Kuprin’s essay “In Suomi.” He describes how, together with Bunin passage in Helsinki - (then Helsingfors), at one of the stations we went to a buffet for 37 kopecks. So then, in the compartment, two contractors from Kaluga, choking, talked about the foolish Finns. One ate, according to his calculations, three rubles worth five hryvnia, almost burst, and the second, with a happy smile, said that he managed to break a glass into a fish managed to spit! Neither subtract nor add.
    1. 0
      15 May 2013 02: 48
      Hello Belarusians!!
      drinks
    2. SASCHAmIXEEW
      0
      15 May 2013 20: 03
      She is a fool (from Minsk) is she not an emigrated Jew? They didn’t let me in - they have enough of their own fools? But you’re wrong about RUSSIA, it’s all unfounded! Something happened, but it’s already gone! You’ve never been to our country and you don’t know how we live. But it’s easy to lie! Look GOD will punish!
  91. pavlo007
    0
    15 May 2013 01: 45
    Quote: rsnv
    Dear pavlo007, maybe it’s worth distinguishing between Jews and Jews. There are enough Jews among Russians too.

    Well, yes, I really freaked out, there is such a thing. But if we leave the rational grain, the main point is that the Zionist state and ideology are inherently fascist, since they explicitly promote the superiority of one nation over another. And what’s interesting is that all common people are silent on the phone.
    Imagine if the official ideology in Russia were to declare the postulate “Russia for Russians!” (I, by the way, absolutely do not support this slogan and believe that this is the path to the collapse of Russia). What screams would pour out from all sides.

    As for the “intelligence” of Jews, they simply tend to confuse two concepts - smart and mean. These are slightly different things.
  92. -1
    15 May 2013 02: 35
    Quote: pavlo007
    Quote: rsnv
    Dear pavlo007, maybe it’s worth distinguishing between Jews and Jews. There are enough Jews among Russians too.

    ....are fascist, since they explicitly promote the superiority of one nation over another.


    Yes, Zionism does not promote any superiority. All propaganda is the revival of the Jewish state in its historical homeland. This is where Zionism begins and ends.
    1. +2
      15 May 2013 10: 07
      definition from the Great Soviet Encyclopedia

      Zionism (from the name of the hill Zion in Jerusalem),
      [1] the most reactionary form of Jewish nationalism, which became widespread in the 20 century. among the Jewish population of the capitalist countries.
      The ideological doctrine of Zionism uses many of the dogmas of Judaism.

      Its main provisions are as follows:

      [2] Jews of various countries of the world represent the extraterritorial "united world Jewish nation";
      [3] Jews - “special”, “exclusive”, “God's chosen” people;
      [4] all the nations among whom the Jews live are, in one way or another, anti-Semites;
      [5] anti-Semitism is an “eternal” phenomenon;
      [6] assimilation, that is, the merging of the Jews with the nations around them, is "unnatural and sinful";
      [7] Jews de have “historical rights” to “the lands of the biblical ancestors” (Palestine and the surrounding areas), on which they must concentrate and build a “purely Jewish” “egalitarian state”.

      The 30 session of the UN General Assembly (November 1975) qualified Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination.

      source: http://www.dazzle.ru/antifascism/zionizm.shtml

      Zionism
      (from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem)
      the most reactionary variety of Jewish bourgeois nationalism, which became widespread in the 20th century. among the Jewish population of capitalist countries. Modern S. is a nationalist ideology, an extensive system of organizations and policies that express the interests of the big Jewish bourgeoisie, closely associated with the monopoly bourgeoisie of the imperialist states. The main content of modern S. is militant chauvinism, racism, anti-communism, and anti-Sovietism.
      S.'s ideological doctrine is very eclectic. It actively uses many dogmas of Judaism, and also includes the theories of bourgeois nationalism, social chauvinism, etc., transformed by Jewish ideologists. Its main provisions boil down to the following: Jews from different countries of the world represent an extraterritorial “single global Jewish nation”; Jews are a “special”, “exceptional”, “chosen by God” people; all peoples among whom Jews live are, in one way or another, anti-Semites; Anti-Semitism is an “eternal” phenomenon; assimilation, i.e., the merging of Jews with the peoples around them, is “unnatural and sinful,” Jews supposedly have “historical rights” to the “lands of their biblical ancestors” (Palestine and the surrounding areas), on which they should concentrate and build “purely Jewish” “egalitarian state”.

      source: http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/bse/132659/
  93. gura
    0
    15 May 2013 10: 29
    Siberian. You should also quote the “Protocols of the Zionist Elders” and the materials of the Beilis case! What TSB could write about Jews! After all, Soviet friends are “unhappy, oppressed” Arabs who still have not paid Russia a penny of their debts for “the best Soviet weapons in the world.” In addition to weapons, you also need brains, and the Arab brothers have a hard time with this! And Jews can be envied for good on many issues - mutual assistance, thirst for knowledge, and “national socialism” in Israel. And in the 60 years I have lived, not a single Jewish friend, and there were many of them, has done anything mean to me.
    1. +1
      15 May 2013 11: 06
      The 30 session of the UN General Assembly (November 1975) qualified Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination.

      This document takes place and it is a fact.

      If they say fascism is a nice fairy tale, I will give an example with a link to a document.

      YOUR friends are Zionists?
      I have Jewish friends, but none of them are Zionists. hi
      1. berg
        +1
        15 May 2013 17: 58
        Do your Jewish friends know what you write here?
        Quote: _Sibiryak_
        This document takes place and it is a fact.

        no longer - cancelled!
    2. 0
      17 May 2013 02: 44
      Arabs are a special people. Those who have dealt with them know this. For me, it is much more useful to have good relations with Israel than with all Arab countries.
      All Arab love ends instantly when you start demanding money for the supplied weapons and food. The more you deal with Arabs, the more you understand Jews. By the way, this is not just my opinion.
      1. 0
        17 May 2013 05: 12
        That is, the Arabs are bad and they urgently need to be democratized, even to the point of establishing a no-fly zone. By the way, Jews (lisping Arabs), as is their custom, substitute concepts and call opponents of Zionism anti-Semites. Although Semites are Arabs and, logically speaking, you are an anti-Semite.
  94. gura
    0
    15 May 2013 12: 47
    Siberian. I agree, there was such a UN decision. But we must remember those years - in the 70s, Israel was subjected to severe terror from the Arabs, who, by the way, were undergoing training near Simferopol (my friend was a translator there, he told a lot of things. I’m sure this experience has come back to haunt Russia now), hostage takings (Uganda) , shooting of an Israeli team in Munich 1972. Israel responded adequately, if you remember. T.N. "People's patriotic" movements began to stir. Who is represented in the UN? In 3/4 countries, the so-called. 3rd world, satellites of the USSR, ready to vote for anyone and anything for the “soldering”. Russia realized this from its subsequent experience (if you don’t feed, you’re not friends). Here's the solution. Israel is now a lightning rod for Russia, don’t you understand! Without Israel, all this radical Islamic evil would have poured into Russia! Remember Chechnya, who fought among the frostbitten! And in general, racism is the refuge of you know who. It is racism, and not the wonderful word patriotism. Sincerely.
  95. pavlo007
    +1
    15 May 2013 13: 15
    Quote: gura
    Israel is now a lightning rod for Russia, don’t you understand! Without Israel, all this radical Islamic evil would have poured into Russia! Remember Chechnya, who fought among the frostbitten! And in general, racism is the refuge of you know who. It is racism, and not the wonderful word patriotism. Sincerely.


    And I foolishly thought that the conflict in the Caucasus and the collapse of Russia were financed by the United States and others controlled by the Zionists...
  96. 0
    16 May 2013 16: 03
    At the same time, Kerry especially emphasized that such a destabilizing factor in the form of missiles primarily concerns Israel.

    I didn’t understand what kind of destabilization he was talking about. Does he consider the situation stable in Syria or in the Middle East?
  97. +1
    16 May 2013 19: 22
    I would like to believe (very much!) that the authorities have drawn conclusions from the shameful and incompetent deflections before the West during the Gorbachev-Yeltsin era. NO PASSARAN!
  98. 0
    17 May 2013 02: 35
    Quote: old man54
    that's just for him, d. VVP, I have very little hope!: ((We would now have a second such as Joseph Visarionovich ... then you look and everything would gradually get better, and yes, the "oligarchs" would move from mansions to cut the forest into the taiga. :))

    Together with them there are also tens of millions of ordinary people. We know, we’ve already passed. What a habit to love the murderers of your people.
  99. 0
    17 May 2013 07: 03
    Quote: Kosha
    Those. with an increase in the fertile population will the birth rate fall? Interesting logic.

    The whole point is that there is just no logic in this laughing
  100. Airman
    0
    17 May 2013 11: 25
    If contracts for the supply of S-300 were signed back in 2010, then why are they delaying delivery for so long?
    1. KononAV
      0
      18 May 2013 15: 39
      there seems to be a lot of people willing

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